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Japan intends to continue negotiations on the "northern territories"

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Japan intends to seek a solution to the territorial issue with the Russian Federation and the conclusion of a peace treaty, reports RIA News Statement by the Prime Minister of the Island State Shinzo Abe at the "National Congress for the Return of the Northern Territories".




The convention is held in Japan every year on February 7. On it are present the key politicians of the country and other famous figures.

“After the war, 70 years passed and the fact that this problem has not been solved yet cannot be called an extraordinary situation,” the premier said.

He assured the audience that he would “persist in negotiations for solving the problem of the" northern territories "."

Help Agency: “The Day of the Northern Territories” is celebrated in Japan on February 7 - on the anniversary of the signing of the Simodsk treatise 1855 of the year, according to which Kunashir, Shikotan, Iturup and Habomai moved to Japan. Japan claims these islands, citing the bilateral Treatise on Trade and the Borders of the 1855 of the Year. The return of the islands of Tokyo set the condition for the conclusion of a peace treaty with the Russian Federation, which, after the end of World War II, was never signed. ”
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  1. cniza
    cniza 7 February 2016 12: 01
    30
    They don’t know anything about ears? belay Probably have to be reminded. laughing
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 7 February 2016 12: 06
      67
      Quote: cniza
      They don’t know anything about ears? Probably have to be reminded.

      And something to show. wink
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 7 February 2016 12: 45
          42

          Fire burns, water flows
          About the Northern Territories
          Japan is negotiating ..
          1. The black
            The black 7 February 2016 13: 27
            23
            The train for the Japanese has long been gone. It was necessary to take two islands when offered. Now we offer more - our friendship and all kinds of assurances, and the islands were and will remain ours. laughing
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 7 February 2016 13: 50
              +4
              Quote: Black
              The train for the Japanese has long been gone. It was necessary to take two islands when offered. Now we offer more - our friendship and all kinds of assurances, and the islands were and will remain ours.

              ... well, they are also strong in hindsight ... laughing ... when they offered to cough up, how they kicked suddenly came, but it was too late ... latecomers are asked to empty the platform .. laughing
            2. captain
              captain 7 February 2016 15: 36
              0
              Dear commentators, I share your indignation completely. But I want to remind you that Damansky Island, for which our soldiers gave their lives and even a film was made about these heroic events, we gave back under Brezhnev, and how much you gave the Chinese and others after Brezhnev, see for yourself, you will be pleasantly surprised. Maybe you won’t write about ears and cheeks.
              1. otter.1
                otter.1 7 February 2016 15: 42
                +4
                So thank God, the Yeltsin era is over, at this wrong address, or are you still restructuring and publicity?
              2. kotvov
                kotvov 7 February 2016 18: 01
                +7
                that Damansky Island, for which our soldiers gave their lives,
                dear, of course, I and you can regret both the territories and the islands, but do you know why the island was given away? I can tell you, the border passes along the fairway, and it turned out to be on the wrong side of the island. Here and turned out to be a Chinese island. I think You know what is happening on the Kuril Islands, I hope you got excited about the ears and cheeks.
                1. Asadullah
                  Asadullah 7 February 2016 19: 00
                  +4
                  but do you know why the island was given up?


                  Exactly. I also want to add that the territories given under Putin were always controversial, and they were featured on all world maps. The separation of these territories completely closed the territorial issue with China. And according to Chinese laws, a peace or allied agreement with a state with which China has unresolved territorial problems is impossible. And when Merkel presented the Chinese leadership with an old map where China owns almost half of Siberia, a letter was sent to her informing that the PRC has no territorial disputes with the Russian Federation and Mongolia. An exchange of hints, so to speak. Merkel is still that TV-ar. I always knew this, even when she was in opposition.
                  1. Russiamoy
                    Russiamoy 7 February 2016 22: 58
                    +2
                    And why do we always make concessions in controversial issues just to not quarrel. This is the position of the weak and why they wouldn’t give up the controversial and the captain weighed and give as many as we need, we have no strong and no nicknames, and the Japanese start a conversation regularly since we have no firm position, we give hope, so to speak, just don’t have to start a song about our tricky diplomacy, and about the Chinese and about renting for 50 years, it's generally beyond what they do there if you knew. Cry from the heart
              3. Truth
                Truth 7 February 2016 19: 35
                +6
                Quote: captain
                Dear commentators, I share your indignation completely. But I want to remind you

                Believe me, those who remember this, in principle, no longer exist, spilled blood is already very few people ...
                I myself am a "participant", as they say in the vkad, invested in the power of the "state", 345 PDP, but bl ...
                For some reason, I want, at the age of 55, to again pick up SVD ...

                Something is going wrong in our kingdom ...
                The euphoria of external victories, somehow sucks combined with the robbery in the domestic market ...

                ps I, after an emergency in CA, working in the Far North, unlearned my studies in economics ...
                ... the triples are solid, but even at this (Soviet) level ...
                ... KILLING IS NECESSARY ....
                1. user
                  user 8 February 2016 11: 19
                  0
                  The euphoria of external victories, somehow sucks combined with the robbery in the domestic market ...


                  It’s just that the VP, with all due respect, does not have a spare bench, one FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs or other law enforcement agencies (well, or from the former, in the sense of those who communicated something or participated in a mortgage auction, and now all of them are successful and the rich, but interestingly, no matter what they take, they will surely ruin. The most striking example of Prokhorov neither in the car, nor in the party, with the biathlon, either, even with the girls in Courchevel - that is, there are no elementary skills for such matters. you can quickly privatize anything - if you were allowed to take part in this very privatization.) And with such a selection of personnel, no fundamental changes await us, either in industry, in the economy, or in education.
            3. Asadullah
              Asadullah 7 February 2016 18: 46
              +6
              It was necessary to take two islands when offered


              Not so simple, they returned with the condition of Soviet military presence on the islands. That is precisely what did not suit Tokyo, or rather Washington. Now the Americans are pedaling the return of the islands, linking the return of the islands with the transfer of the base from Okinawa there. The US Air Force base on Habomai, and the Navy base on Shikotan, ban all Pacific Fleet in coastal waters. The islands are not simple.
            4. Voice of the Mind
              Voice of the Mind 7 February 2016 21: 43
              +4
              Quote: Black
              It was necessary to take two islands when offered.

              Yes, they do not need islands, but a 200 mile fishing zone.
              And a little humor: Russians give the Kuril Islands, we have nowhere to breed
              1. bannik
                bannik 8 February 2016 01: 51
                +2
                As for fishing - that's for sure! And to talk for the islands, for Tsushima, for Port Arthur, we are forever - please, why not talk, talk - this is easy, only they don’t have enough sake!
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 7 February 2016 20: 14
            13
            Quote: Thrall
            Fire burns, water flows
            About the Northern Territories
            Japan is negotiating ..

            A snowflake in my palm melted
            Samurai life.
            Kalashnikov.
            1. rpek32
              rpek32 7 February 2016 21: 47
              +1
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              A snowflake in my palm melted
              Samurai life.
              Kalashnikov.

              shouted into a voice
            2. Fast_mutant
              Fast_mutant 7 February 2016 22: 49
              +2
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              A snowflake in my palm melted
              Samurai life.
              Kalashnikov.



              Beautiful!
              It’s a pity I still can’t throw the pluses! )))
        2. djqnbdjqnb
          djqnbdjqnb 7 February 2016 13: 24
          +4
          And negotiations will be conducted with themselves, or with the electorate on the eve of the election. They do this all the time.
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 7 February 2016 13: 43
            +2
            These statements are clearly for domestic consumption.
            1. Vita vko
              Vita vko 7 February 2016 17: 53
              +1
              Here are the borders of the Russian Empire in 1855. According to Japanese logic, these territories should be returned to Russia.
        3. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 7 February 2016 13: 26
          +3
          They will insist, it is time to raise the issue of the southern territories ... Hokkaido, for example ..
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 7 February 2016 13: 53
            +6
            With the same success, Britain can present territorial claims to the United States, Canada, Australia .... The Slavs can submit claims to Germany in the territory of Labe (Elbya, I mean). The Turks can present Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Serbia, Macedonia, Croatia, Austria. ..Lithuanians can present Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Poland for the territory of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania ... Arabs can present Spain (for the territory of the Cordoba caliphate) ... And off we go .... Armageddon in its purest form.
          2. faridg7
            faridg7 7 February 2016 16: 05
            +3
            Yes, make a claim on the Big South Kuril Islands and require the Americans to liquidate their bases on them
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 7 February 2016 12: 25
        +4
        Quote: vovanpain
        And something to show

        What do you need a Japanese prostitute?
        http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/993145
      3. Pig
        Pig 7 February 2016 12: 54
        +1
        it’s better not to show a cookie ... in Japan, this gesture means not at all what we have :) they don’t understand correctly
        1. Alexanast
          Alexanast 7 February 2016 13: 16
          16
          But in our country it means what it means. You can even show from the elbow and let them understand how they want.
      4. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 7 February 2016 12: 55
        +1
        Quote: vovanpain
        Quote: cniza
        They don’t know anything about ears? Probably have to be reminded.

        And something to show. wink

        Do you call a Japanese prostitute? laughing
        What Abe says is just boltology. We have nothing to talk about. We have not signed the world ... so ...? soldier
      5. leshiy076
        leshiy076 7 February 2016 13: 56
        +6
        Unfortunately, the Japanese do not understand such a gesture. In them, it means something completely different. Moreover, the history of Russia already knows such an example. During the siege of Port Arthur, General Stessel also offered to send the Japanese the same sign in response to the offer to surrender the fortress, to which General Kondratenko told him that he would be misunderstood in Japan, because there, venal women invited men to them. And what is most striking, after Kondratenko died, the fortress was surrendered to the Japanese by Generals Stessel and Fock for 20000 thousand dollars. With all this, the fortress could still defend itself, and the Japanese ran out of resources.
      6. 11 black
        11 black 7 February 2016 16: 22
        0
        Quote: vovanpain
        Japan intends to continue negotiations on the "northern territories"


        https://vk.com/video135365777_167736545?hash=623f4281df3efd3a
      7. vovanpain
        vovanpain 7 February 2016 17: 44
        +8
        Quote: vovanpain
        And something to show.

        Quote: Amurets
        What do you need a Japanese prostitute?

        Quote: Pig
        in Japan, this gesture means not at all what we have :) they will not understand correctly

        Quote: Misha Honest
        Do you call a Japanese prostitute?

        Brothers, let the narrow-eyed understand how they want, to me on them .... from a high bell tower, only to hell to them all over the face, not the Kuril Islands, would show them, but the censorship of the site will not miss. hi
    2. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 7 February 2016 12: 11
      +7
      Japan intends to seek a solution to the territorial issue with the Russian Federation and the conclusion of a peace treaty, RIA Novosti reports the statement by the Prime Minister of the island state of Shinzo Abe to "Nationwide Congress for the Return of the Northern Territories."

      This is "exhaust" for domestic use in Japan. And so - let's listen to what the presidential candidates in the United States, or maydanutye in the Rada, promise.
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 7 February 2016 12: 14
        32
        The Japanese have a too narrow view of the South Kuril problem. wink

        anecdote to the topic:
        * Opinion poll: How do you feel about the problem of the Kuril Islands?
        1. Give to the Japanese, let them choke - 1%
        2. Do not give back to the Japanese for anything - 24%
        3. Smoked, smoked and will smoke - 75%
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 7 February 2016 12: 18
        +2
        Quote: Voha_krim
        This is "exhaust" for domestic use in Japan. And so - let's listen to what the presidential candidates in the United States, or maydanutye in the Rada, promise.

        Plagiarism, my friend, plagiarism ....
        stop
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 7 February 2016 12: 12
      +6
      Sergey Lavrov is already tired of sending Yap, both individually and in congresses. Can they return Sakhalin to Vladivostok as well? Go to your Japanese family and calm down already! am
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 7 February 2016 12: 18
        +5
        Yes, they’re already sickened, we must warn them that if they once again give a hint about the territorial issue, we will take another Hokkaido.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 7 February 2016 12: 33
          +7
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          Yes, they’re already sickened, we must warn them that if they once again give a hint about the territorial issue, we will take another Hokkaido.

          Useless, No. 1) The Japanese have a too narrow view of the South Kuril problem.
          2) - They always wanted to eat some sushi and it was always their favorite dish. As a result, they now live on a small island. And 3) - They always forget that at the next demand of Japan to give her the Kuril Islands, there is always another earthquake.
      2. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 7 February 2016 12: 19
        10
        That’s the essence of all men ...! If Russia is strong! bully
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 7 February 2016 12: 31
          +6
          Greetings, Mikhalych! hi
          I didn’t run a hundred meters at the institute like this quick-eyed handsome man. smile
          1. MIKHALYCH1
            MIKHALYCH1 7 February 2016 12: 43
            +4
            Quote: Dr. Bormental
            Greetings, Mikhalych! hi
            I didn’t run a hundred meters at the institute like this quick-eyed handsome man. smile

            You are right doctor! They are running now ... EVERYTHING! Erdogan will still run ..))) Chir world, you need to open! (already matured ___)
    4. Finches
      Finches 7 February 2016 12: 28
      +7
      Since the Japanese leadership insists on negotiations on the "northern territories", then, of course, they need to meet them, but to make sure that it finally reaches them - NO! To present them with such weighty arguments and force them to sign an agreement on our terms, as the professor said Preobrazhensky "That it was such a piece of paper ... the final piece of paper, actual, real! Armor!"
    5. Blondy
      Blondy 7 February 2016 12: 33
      +2
      The problem of the northern territories is the internal problem of Japan (Japanese Wishlist, if simpler), and Russia does not interfere in the internal affairs of other states.
      If Japan, for example, were attacked by some North or South Korean terrorists,
      then, of course, at the very first request of the Japanese government, they would have helped.
    6. 73bor
      73bor 7 February 2016 12: 48
      +1
      And who prevents them from negotiating, let them take a megaphone, go ashore and talk to themselves as much as they like, but it’s good for us!
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 7 February 2016 13: 32
        +8
        What kind of negotiations, about what "northern territories" ??? Here's an elephant "in Japanese":
    7. Wolverine
      Wolverine 7 February 2016 13: 52
      +3
      Precisely, Japan has always been an aggressor, they forgot how many millions of people put in China, Korea, Russians, etc.
      And now they turned on an innocent sheep and yelling that they were robbed?
      But nevermind in your nose, you think they got stronger and you can re-establish, well, well, you can still lose something ...
    8. sgazeev
      sgazeev 7 February 2016 14: 12
      +8
      Quote: cniza
      They don’t know anything about ears? belay Probably have to be reminded. laughing
    9. Mixweb
      Mixweb 7 February 2016 14: 22
      +1
      They are annoying like flies laughing
    10. northern
      northern 7 February 2016 16: 13
      +5
      There is one option ...
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 7 February 2016 16: 19
        +3
        All the more insistent and insistent Japanese. So far, they hope to negotiate a return to the Kuril Islands, as soon as they realize that nothing is shining for them, they may resort to military provocation. Japan has 16 non-nuclear submarines, 6 frigates, 29 destroyers, 8 destroyers URO.
        And we just now finally ordered 6 Varshavyanka for the Pacific Fleet.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 7 February 2016 17: 18
          +4
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          as soon as they understand that nothing is shining for them, they can resort to military provocation.

          The Japanese very well remember Hasan, Halkin-Gol, and the defeat of the Kwantung Army. Ordinary Japanese are not particularly eager to the Kuril Islands. They even have half-empty cities and towns in Hokkaido. All this stench comes from the straits and the outlet into the ocean of our fleet. It was in this area that the Japanese aircraft carrier group came out, which attacked Pearl Harbor. Americans want to open the "Memory Watch" here, and at the same time take revenge for the Crimea. Therefore, it is necessary to put Japanese politicians in a pose, and if they do not understand what to do as the Americans: kick in the ass and swallow on a long flight. At least Japan needs more in Russian raw materials than we do in their products. Moreover, the same products of the same firms can be bought in the countries of Southeast Asia much cheaper, since there customs duties are lower.
    11. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 7 February 2016 17: 25
      +2
      Yes, how they all zadolbali ....
      Claims, sanctions ....
      And specifically, the Japs have repeatedly broken their teeth about Russia.
      "We don’t want an inch of someone else’s land, but we won’t give up our inch either."
      And our land is the borders of the Republic of Ingushetia for 1914, without taking into account the results of the REE.
    12. sherp2015
      sherp2015 7 February 2016 18: 46
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      They don’t know anything about ears? Probably have to be reminded.


      The khans are trying to press the brocade on us from all sides ... There is Ukraine, there is Turkey, Syria ... and those squint-eyed people remembered the northern territories so "in time" ...
      Damn, do not give up a single gram! Just give in in one place, show the slack and this jackal will tear from all sides.
    13. GSH-18
      GSH-18 7 February 2016 18: 58
      +2
      Japan intends to seek a solution to the territorial issue with Russia and conclude a peace treaty

      Or I didn’t hear something, or the Japanese turned on! request
      They were told RUSSIAN in white, there will be no return of the islands, calm down. I do not understand ram stubbornness, what are they hoping for? To starve to take? lol fool
    14. Vend
      Vend 8 February 2016 10: 00
      0
      Quote: cniza
      They don’t know anything about ears? belay Probably have to be reminded. laughing

      Samurai listen only to their master laughing
  2. KOH
    KOH 7 February 2016 12: 03
    +7
    Yes, the accordion is already torn, forget, from the Chinese, learn how to make artificial, dreaming ...
  3. izya top
    izya top 7 February 2016 12: 03
    14
    "Persistently negotiate for a solution to the problem of the" northern territories "."
    here, sit down with skaklah behind the horylka and sake and discuss between yourself about the Kuril Islands and the Crimea. Understand each other
    1. Evpatiy.
      Evpatiy. 7 February 2016 12: 31
      +2
      That's for sure: a couple of "offended"! You can cry to each other! But Russia is callous, and does not want to give a damn.
  4. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 7 February 2016 12: 04
    +2
    "Kemska volost" does not allow to sleep peacefully. laughing

    USA gives Japan nuclear power; Russia must give the islands. laughing
  5. RUSS
    RUSS 7 February 2016 12: 04
    +5
    “The bast is hanging on a stake, we start all over again”
  6. venaya
    venaya 7 February 2016 12: 04
    +6
    will "persistently negotiate for a solution to the problem of the" northern territories ""

    Were it not for America, the problems of the northern territories would disappear by themselves, and a comprehensive world would come.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 7 February 2016 12: 50
      +5
      Quote: venaya
      Do not be America

      If the SGA and arrogant Saxons, there would have been no problems at all!
    2. sherp2015
      sherp2015 7 February 2016 19: 02
      +2
      Quote: venaya
      Were it not for America, the problems of the northern territories would disappear by themselves, and a comprehensive world would come.

      M-yes!
      There is a country - there are problems,
      No country - no problems ...
  7. beck
    beck 7 February 2016 12: 05
    +9
    as our overseas "partners" say: there is no need to redraw the borders established after the Second World War angry
    1. evgeny1979
      evgeny1979 7 February 2016 12: 46
      +1
      How would they these ,, partners ,, then did not regret it.
    2. Karlovar
      Karlovar 7 February 2016 13: 57
      +1
      They said this after the restructuring of the Warsaw Pact, the USSR, Yugoslavia .... Then you can’t supposedly redraw it already ...
  8. newcomer
    newcomer 7 February 2016 12: 07
    +6
    strange people. sort of proud samupai, actually under the heel of the Yankees. like they are negotiating, or rather demanding to give. Do they even understand that they will be left with nothing ?!
    1. valera
      valera 7 February 2016 12: 17
      +1
      Quote: newbie
      strange people. sort of proud samupai, actually under the heel of the Yankees

      Absolutely nothing strange. Japan has a different psychology. It's really simple. The Japanese admitted that they were the loser and therefore behaved quietly, BUT as soon as the Americans weaken Godzilla stick a knife in Uncle Sam's back. Here's another interesting fact, the states caused a very big insult Japanese nobility took away their katana swords after the end of 2MB, and for such an answer it will be very cruel on occasion. So let's wait.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 7 February 2016 12: 29
        +1
        Quote: Valera
        the states inflicted a very great insult to the Japanese nobility, taking away their katana swords after the end of 2MB

        And do not give? smile
        1. valera
          valera 7 February 2016 12: 34
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          And do not give?

          No, who will do the shah of preference?
        2. Karlovar
          Karlovar 7 February 2016 14: 04
          +3
          The Japanese still pay the states of reparation as the losing side! Otherwise, how to explain that Japanese cars in the USA (and Canada) cost almost half as much as in other countries (EU, China, Russia, etc.) ???
      2. Karlovar
        Karlovar 7 February 2016 13: 59
        +1
        I completely agree ... Until the time has come, the circumstances have not yet happened ... But when the moment is convenient, they will enjoy revenge to the fullest ...
    2. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 7 February 2016 12: 25
      +4
      Yes, what proud samupai? There was nothing left of pride. They sintered. They fell under a country that dropped atomic bombs on them. A SHAME.
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  9. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 7 February 2016 12: 07
    13
    Japan intends to continue negotiations on the "northern territories"
  10. sever.56
    sever.56 7 February 2016 12: 08
    11
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/141/evwp457.png

    Fuck them, not the Kuril Islands !!!
  11. evil partisan
    evil partisan 7 February 2016 12: 11
    18
    Like this:
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 7 February 2016 12: 23
      +3
      Thanks for the clip, pleased. It would be necessary to show the Japanese.
  12. AlexTires
    AlexTires 7 February 2016 12: 15
    +4
    "The problem of the northern territories" is only in the inflamed minds of Japanese politicians. Having given the Kuril Islands we will be deprived of a normal deep-water outlet to the sea, so this will never happen, and the leader who raised this issue risks being demoted to corporal.
    1. dauria
      dauria 7 February 2016 14: 47
      +1
      and the leader who raised this issue runs the risk of being demoted to corporal.


      Some of our leaders first need to go to the army, and grow to corporal. laughing Students-general, ... Oops, and the Minister of Defense at least knows how many sentries in the company? belay
  13. sichevik
    sichevik 7 February 2016 12: 16
    0
    So what? They intend. Well, we are all incredibly happy for them !!! Their intentions are something like one place. The main thing that would not be intended. And let them intend as much as they please.
  14. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 7 February 2016 12: 16
    +5
    Here are whinny-eyed whiners .... they didn’t dig like the sea, but just like hohlonavts, give and give. Fooling you. I’m more joked that their youth believes that the USSR dropped atomic bombs on them, not the Americans. The islanders ... what to take from them. smile
  15. Demon_blood
    Demon_blood 7 February 2016 12: 17
    +7
    The Japanese are doing everything according to a bilateral agreement, and Putin signed this disadvantageous agreement for Russian diplomacy in 2001, which recorded the parties ’agreement to speed up the process and conclude an agreement“ by resolving the issue of the Iturup, Kunashir, Shikotan and Khabomai islands. ”

    More than one president who respects his country would never recognize the Kuril Islands as disputed islands, it would be the same if the English queen recognized the Falklands disputed with Argentina by signing an agreement with them.
    1. cap
      cap 7 February 2016 13: 26
      +5
      Quote: Demon_Blood
      The Japanese are doing everything according to a bilateral agreement, and Putin signed this disadvantageous agreement for Russian diplomacy in 2001, which recorded the parties ’agreement to speed up the process and conclude an agreement“ by resolving the issue of the Iturup, Kunashir, Shikotan and Khabomai islands. ”


      This hooked them. The text itself can be interpreted this way or that. It may be necessary to decide, in the sense of not giving it back. But not tomorrow, that's for sure. And about super-Japanese goods, I’ll say as a versed person. All consumer goods in Japan are Chinese. Cars and their own technique. Good, better than the one that is produced under the license of the same Toyota in Europe. This also applies to household items made "for themselves." They have a lot of self-respect and ambition, this cannot be taken away. The order is in everything and everywhere like in a pharmacy But I wouldn't live there, that's why.
      W something like this.
    2. Homo
      Homo 7 February 2016 13: 45
      -3
      Quote: Demon_Blood
      More than one president who respects his country would never recognize the Kuril Islands as disputed islands, it would be the same if the English queen recognized the Falklands disputed with Argentina by signing an agreement with them.

      A fat minus for you! Firstly, not 2001, but 2003. Secondly, where does the treaty say that the islands are "disputed territories"? You do not need to interpret the contract at your own discretion! The international treaty should be read as it is, without speculation. The meaning of the treaty is to conclude a treaty between Russia and Japan, resolve the issue peacefully. And no references to "disputed territories"!

      "JOINT STATEMENT OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE PRIME MINISTER OF JAPAN ON THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE RUSSIAN-JAPANESE PLAN OF ACTION" (Signed in Moscow on 10.01.2003)

      JOINT STATEMENT
      THE PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE PRIME MINISTER
      JAPAN ON THE ADOPTION OF THE RUSSIAN-JAPANESE ACTION PLAN
      (Moscow, January 10, 2003)
      President of the Russian Federation and Prime Minister of Japan,
      sharing the point of view that in modern conditions, when the process of active formation of new forms of interstate interaction based on the principles of freedom and democracy is ongoing in the international community, the role and responsibility of the Russian Federation and Japan in the world are growing and they need to work even closer;
      .
      striving to finally overcome the difficult legacy of the past in bilateral relations and to open new horizons for a broad Russian-Japanese partnership and Reaffirming the determination through vigorous negotiations, to conclude a peace treaty as soon as possible by resolving the issue of the ownership of the Iturup, Kunashir, Shikotan and Habomai Islands and thereby achieving full normalization of bilateral relations on the basis of the agreements reached so far, including the Joint Declaration of the USSR and Japan of 1956, the Tokyo Declaration on Russian-Japanese relations of 1993, the Moscow Declaration on establishing a constructive partnership between the Russian Federation and Japan in 1998, the Statement of the President of the Russian Federation and the Prime Minister of Japan on the Peace Treaty of 2000 and the Irkutsk statement of the President of the Russian Federation and the Prime Minister of Japan on the further continuation of negotiations on the 2001 peace treaty;
      .
      Emphasizing the importance of implementing concrete measures to ensure the dynamic and comprehensive development of Russian-Japanese cooperation,
      adopted the attached Russian-Japanese action plan and announced the intention of both countries to work together to implement its provisions.
      Moscow, January 10, 2003
      (Signatures)
      1. Demon_blood
        Demon_blood 7 February 2016 14: 26
        +3
        Instead of simply stopping discussing the territory of Russia, Putin himself recognized these islands as controversial if there is dialogue on them. in diplomacy, the very fact of mentioning the dialogue on these islands means that the country is not confident in the sovereignty over them.
        And what does 2003 have to do with it, the Japanese proceed from the agreement of 2001 when solving the territorial issue with the Russian Federation.
        TOKYO. 2015, the Government of Japan "will demand that Russia comply with the 2001 treaty when settling the territorial dispute over the South Kuriles and concluding a peace treaty."
        More on TASS:
        http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2132391
  16. bad
    bad 7 February 2016 12: 17
    -2
    Quote: cniza
    They don’t know anything about ears? belay Probably have to be reminded. laughing
    ..and also about 1905 .. Tsushima and Port Arthur ..
    1. cniza
      cniza 7 February 2016 12: 23
      +4
      And what do you mean by that? do we shiver, are they afraid? "can't wait ..."
  17. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 7 February 2016 12: 20
    +3
    How to change the eye shape, and then discuss)))
  18. Stinger
    Stinger 7 February 2016 12: 20
    +7
    Japan intends to continue negotiations on the "northern territories"
    Do not understand. They want to give us Hokkaido?
  19. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 7 February 2016 12: 22
    +7
    Quote: vovanpain
    Quote: cniza
    They don’t know anything about ears? Probably have to be reminded.

    And something to show. wink
  20. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 7 February 2016 12: 24
    +7
    Russian drunkards, fools and slobs? And are yapi (Americans, Germans, paddles and others) smart, efficient and economic? Are such (or similar) thoughts all the world media trying to inspire us with? How, then, do such wacky Japanese nifig have no basic wealth: the main and only land for living? But among the fools of Russia (a hundred times ha!) There is so much of this good that not only is enough for us, but the whole globe can be densely populated like that. But not only an inch of our native land was not lost, but we also multiply this wealth from generation to generation due to various evil aggressors, who for some reason consider us weak. So who is more foolish and who is smarter?
    In my opinion, the answer is obvious.
  21. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 February 2016 12: 27
    +4
    A theme wrapped in Japanese national clothing and rubbed into holes. And pride does not allow changing a suit. Japan would not be bad at first to pay with China for everything that they have done on their territory.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 7 February 2016 14: 20
      +2
      Rotmister! Do not be lazy, take an interest in the ethnogenesis of the Japanese nation and, accordingly, automatically become the Japanese statehood! Let me tell you briefly, there is a striking parallel in the historical relations of Japan vs Korea, China and current relations between Ukraine and Russia !!! Or like a Ukrainian-Russian who hates everything Russian, who doesn’t remember kinship, and a Japanese-partially Korean, partially Chinese, who don’t remember kinship and hates everything Korean and Chinese ... despite the fact that all culture, mythology is copied from Chinese, brought to islands by Koreans ... And you will understand the features of the Japanese national character.
  22. Telemon
    Telemon 7 February 2016 12: 29
    +4
    Today, sambo competitions for the prize of the President of Russia Putin began ... It's cool, but ... And in general:
  23. aba
    aba 7 February 2016 12: 30
    0
    All the same, it turns out that Russia should review the results of not only the Great Patriotic War, but also the Second World War?
  24. newcomer
    newcomer 7 February 2016 12: 31
    +5
    No, Valera, they’ve broken this sting for a long time. they have nothing to stick. and they will lick the Yankees ass, because there are too many problems with neighbors. alone to drown in his own pride.
    1. valera
      valera 7 February 2016 12: 55
      -6
      The Chinese have even more problems with their neighbors. In addition, they already got to the end of the rams with their territorial claims. I think the day is not far when the Japs, Vietnamese, Taiwanese and maybe warm Koreans will cooperate and give a good kick to the Mao-jedun fart.
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 7 February 2016 14: 31
        +1
        Taiwanese are the same as Chinese (Chinese who live anywhere in the world remain Chinese, send a share to their historical homeland) ... Koreans have historically been drawn to China (Koreans know that the Chinese can be trusted, a peace treaty concluded between China and Korea for more than 600 years back, the Chinese are still observing) ... the Vietnamese to please the United States will not do anything in real life (in Vietnam, houses built and used by the Americans are empty and dilapidated, the Vietnamese did not settle there, but lived in dugouts after the war ... This clearly reveals their true attitude towards the Americans) ... Only the Japanese remain, but today is not 1935, but 2016, today China is not in the flames of a civil war, but on a frenzied economic, military, social and patriotic upsurge ...
        1. valera
          valera 7 February 2016 15: 11
          0
          Quote: Karlovar
          Taiwanese - same Chinese

          And then the "tezhe Chinese" do not want to become the 23rd province of China, huh?
          Quote: Karlovar
          Koreans have historically been drawn to China

          What kind of Koreans are drawn to the Chinese, those who live above the 38th parallel?
          Quote: Karlovar
          .Vietnamese for the sake of the United States will not do anything in real life (in Vietnam, houses built and used by the Americans are empty and dilapidated, the Vietnamese did not settle there, but lived in dugouts after the war ... This clearly reveals their true attitude towards the Americans).

          Yes, of course, for the sake of pendas they will wait until the whales of Vietnam get chopped off.
          Quote: Karlovar
          Only the Japanese remain, but today is not 1935, but 2016, today China is not in the flames of a civil war, but on a frenzied economic, military, social and patriotic upsurge ...

          As soon as the Japanese remain, and the Filipinos calmly abandon their claims to the Spratly archipelago in favor of the Chinese?
          Well, that will be extinguished by the team, Schaub for sure.
  25. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 7 February 2016 12: 32
    +2
    They need to draw a big Chukchi house "FigVam" is called.
  26. askort154
    askort154 7 February 2016 12: 33
    +2
    Oh, Japan Mach! Are you completely crazy ?! What will happen on our planet if all current countries
    return to the redistribution of their borders, starting in 1855. For many "states" there will be a discovery that then they did not exist at all. Do not see each other on the "show-off" of the United States. On the contrary, you must take revenge on them for testing atomic weapons on samurai. The United States needs the Kuriles to get into the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. Therefore, forget forever about "smokers" and calm down. It is much more profitable for you to establish economic cooperation with Russia in the Far East. Americans need you as their dog in
    this region.
  27. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 7 February 2016 12: 36
    +2
    Here the question is who holds whom by the balls and creates discomfort. I see that the eggs here are Japanese, which means that by strengthening or weakening the grip, you can extract the necessary tone in the discussion from the opponent, therefore I consider the Kuril Islands as a valuable diplomatic tool that should be in constant work. As Comrade Trotsky said, "movement is everything, the result is nothing."
  28. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 February 2016 12: 38
    +4
    Why do Yapis need the South Kuril Islands - this is obvious. Why we need a peace treaty with Japan is not very clear. For order? It is impossible to create precedents for the return of their lands.
    1. severbob
      severbob 7 February 2016 13: 07
      0
      without a contract we are at war
      1. pv1005
        pv1005 7 February 2016 13: 56
        +4
        Quote: severbob
        without a contract we are at war

        For 70 years, this did not bother us.
    2. Karlovar
      Karlovar 7 February 2016 14: 33
      +2
      The Kuril Islands in the east are the same as the Crimea in the southwest ...
  29. BOB044
    BOB044 7 February 2016 12: 38
    +2
    More often and attentively it is necessary to read the Twelve chairs. There, all your inquiries are inscribed. Here are ears from a dead donkey. And not the Kuril Islands. hi The dreamers.
  30. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 February 2016 12: 42
    +1
    It's about spring. This is the posture of the Ipenians. Again they need to go on about the Kuril Islands. laughing
  31. cccr51
    cccr51 7 February 2016 12: 42
    +1
    I really like the position of Pyongyang - never forget about the Japanese criminals fascists who killed Koreans and Chinese for many years. Fuck you in Japan mother, not the island. And ,, rackets ,, Korean non-tennis with delicious fillings keep Joponia on the hook remarkably.
  32. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 7 February 2016 12: 43
    +2
    In my case, there is no problem with any "northern territories" and there is no trace of why Russia is the occupied colony of the United States trying to set conditions? You first become an independent state, then solve the territorial problems with other Chinese, for example (if you can) and then come to us - let us look at our Kurils from afar.
  33. V.ic
    V.ic 7 February 2016 12: 43
    +1
    A country that has on its territory the military bases of the state that "bent" them is not independent, not sovereign. It is not a place to conclude contracts with such pugs. Let the American military bases be removed from their territory - then we will begin negotiations. I will say it again: Japan is not a subject of politics, but a territory for the deployment of military bases of another state.
  34. barclay
    barclay 7 February 2016 12: 44
    +2
    Here some "very advanced" consider the 19-year-old treaties to be outdated.
    According to the head of the North Atlantic Alliance, the 1997 treaty is very outdated, does not correspond to the realities of the time and needs at least serious changes. http://expert.ru/2015/11/6/nato-hochet-podpisat-s-rossiej-novyij-dogovor/
    What can we say about a treatise signed 160 years ago?
    “The Northern Territories Day is celebrated in Japan on February 7 - the anniversary of the signing of the Shimoda Treaty of 1855, according to which Kunashir, Shikotan, Iturup and Habomai were ceded to Japan. Japan claims these islands, citing the bilateral Treaty on Trade and Frontiers of 1855 ...
    Gentlemen, Japanese neighbors, you pro your territories ... or thanks to your militaristic aggressive policy. And the above-mentioned treatise does not correspond to reality for a long time. If you will again "climb into the bottle", then something else about ... those. It is not for you to set conditions, dear. And let the Northern Territories Day remind you of the fatal mistakes.
    1. Telemon
      Telemon 7 February 2016 13: 07
      +4
      Quote: barclay
      And let the Northern Territories Day remind you of fatal mistakes

      And about my birthday! And I am very keen on lovers.
  35. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 7 February 2016 12: 51
    +2
    Japan claims these islands, citing the bilateral Treaty on Trade and Borders of the 1855 of the year.

    Alle, the garage wake up, after a fight do not wave their fists. You are in 1945 year these same islands are pros ... so sit upright or make yourself a seppuku.
  36. Felix
    Felix 7 February 2016 12: 51
    +4
    Let them first restore their sovereignty, and then ... And then too - from a pure heart.
  37. V.Wind
    V.Wind 7 February 2016 12: 56
    +3
    We give them islands, and they give us pi ... ski bases on them ...... well done.
  38. armata37
    armata37 7 February 2016 13: 08
    +1
    No islands for them. Better put things in order at their own nuclear power plant, which is a fonty for the whole world. There will be more sense.
  39. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 7 February 2016 13: 11
    +1
    Accidentally coincided here ... winked

    The Japanese SAMBO Championships for the Cup of Russian President Vladimir Putin took place on Sunday in Tokyo, with the winners being Yudai Yamashita among men and Kie Matsuoka among women, who will perform at the World SAMBO Championships in November in the Bulgarian capital Sofia.

    "Sambo was based on judo, and then developed into a separate sport, and the fact that it is popular in Japan and annual tournaments are held shows how important this sport is," Russian Ambassador to Tokyo Evgeny, who was present at the championship, explained to RIA Novosti Afanasyev. According to him, "the development of contacts between athletes is important for relations between peoples."

    This year, the sambo championship in Tokyo coincides with the day of the "northern territories" celebrated in Japan, as the Japanese call the southern Kuriles, insisting on their transfer to Tokyo. On this day, Japanese ultra-right organizations are usually active, organizing anti-Russian actions.

    "We, athletes, are not concerned with politics, but holding the Putin Cup on such a sensitive day for Japan is an important event, since SAMBO and sport bring our two countries closer together and help improve their relations," Chairman of the championship organizing committee Nobuyuki Asai told RIA Novosti.
  40. shelva
    shelva 7 February 2016 13: 11
    +2
    Do we need him? - this peace treaty. Every year the same thing - they are not tired of themselves?
  41. x587x
    x587x 7 February 2016 13: 21
    +2
    Groundhog Day ...
  42. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 7 February 2016 13: 21
    +2
    Maybe it’s time for Russia to stop such attempts of endless negotiations. They didn’t find the girl for persuasion or something. And we have to supervise the topic every time. It is just tired!
  43. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 7 February 2016 13: 35
    +2
    The persistent uncle is Japanese. Although they are forced by the Japanese who previously lived in the Kuril Islands, this is for them like a mantra. There was no need to fascist, no need to be invaders and beasts with Koreans. You intended to capture the entire Pacific region, you have broken off the horns for it. And therefore you need to be kept in tight rein, so that they do not again embark on the same path. Why was it necessary to capture part of our Sakhalin, to climb to our Far East? And the Kuril Islands are now primordially our land and for this we will even protect our teeth, since we belong to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk zone. Yes, and with other countries do not get along, claim their land.
  44. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 7 February 2016 13: 38
    0
    Who about what and lousy about the bath.
  45. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 7 February 2016 13: 40
    +1
    We don’t plan to give anything back in the next 3000 years.
    And we can talk about this topic, but only after Japan gained full sovereignty and independence from matrastan.
    While the Japs are the essence of the six mattresses, the conversation does not make sense.
    What is not clear? Don't we have translators in Japanese?
  46. vell.65
    vell.65 7 February 2016 13: 40
    +2
    The issue has long been resolved by our president, which was explained to him verbatim and this has already been withdrawn from discussion. No one else trades his territory. soldier
  47. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 February 2016 13: 41
    +4
    horseradish bloomed on the northern slope of Fuji
  48. ava09
    ava09 7 February 2016 13: 46
    +1
    Quote: Tol100v
    Quote: venaya
    Do not be America

    If the SGA and arrogant Saxons, there would have been no problems at all!


    I'm not sure that human STUPIDITY does not "organize" problems besides the US and the Anglo-Saxons with the Zionists in addition. Although, in fairness, it must be admitted that they have drawn the lion's share of problems to the world. And those who organized the stuffing about the "problem of the Northern Territories" achieved their goal. After all, few of the "commentators" understood that the meaning of it is in ATTRACTING ATTENTION. NO ATTENTION - NO artificial PROBLEM. DO NOT WASH, SO RIDE. Cross-nosed revenge-seekers have patience wow.)
  49. samoletil18
    samoletil18 7 February 2016 14: 05
    +1
    Everyone knows both with us and with them: the islands of RUSSIAN FOREVER. But for the Japanese beau monde, this topic is the most delicious, you can promise anything about it, one fig: we did everything, we solved the problem, but the Russians still remain on the islands. And so on ad infinitum. Or until Japan enters the entire Russian Federation.
    1. barsik92090
      barsik92090 7 February 2016 20: 49
      0
      For many years, the Japanese have subtly hinted at full integration with Russia to visit these islands and breed rice there.
    2. barsik92090
      barsik92090 7 February 2016 20: 49
      0
      For many years, the Japanese have subtly hinted at full integration with Russia to visit these islands and breed rice there.
  50. Gunther
    Gunther 7 February 2016 14: 05
    0
    But in general, I like the Japanese people - hardworking, albeit bloodthirsty (dolphins are guzzled alive, Detachment 731 is available).
    Let them be part of Russia and live freely on our islands, no problem.