Foreign Minister: the Netherlands no longer insist on creating a Boeing Tribunal under the auspices of the UN

February 7 2016 44

The Netherlands will no longer return to the idea of creating a UN-level tribunal for the criminal prosecution of those responsible for the crash of a Malaysian Boeing in Ukraine in 2014 g, reports Look with reference to the Foreign Minister of the country Bert Kunders.

“As you know, last summer, before the final report of the Netherlands Security Council on the Boeing crash was published, the Dutch government and partners in the Joint Investigation Group decided that the establishment of a tribunal would be the best option for prosecuting those responsible for the tragedy. UN auspices. However, Russia blocked this decision in the UN Security Council. And for me now, this option seems to be a dead end, ”said Kunders.

“The most realistic is the organization of the court at the national level by one of the countries involved in the investigation or the tribunal with the participation of all countries belonging to the Joint Investigation Team (Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, the Netherlands and Ukraine). The decision has not yet been made. This issue is being discussed and, as I said in January, I hope that within six months the decision will be made, ”the diplomat said.

“I think these are real deadlines,” he stressed. “Of course, everyone wants the process to go faster, but it is important to bear in mind that we are talking about criminal prosecution of persons and that this requires evidence.”

The newspaper reminds that today the terms of the agreement on the activities of the joint investigation team are expiring. However, the Dutch and Ukrainian prosecutors intend to extend them.

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The black

+17

7 February 2016 11: 03

Why insist? Who will allow them to judge American buddies? ... Pets Roshenko and so went into the bout, after the latest statements by Dutch experts ...
1. NIKNN
  
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  7 February 2016 11: 03
  
  [quoteNetherlands no longer insists on setting up Boeing tribunal under UN auspices]
  
  Russia is not to blame for the tribune? Who to judge? democracy ...?

Pravdarm

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7 February 2016 11: 05

It seems to me - they realized that they are losing their face! What is becoming a lie! And liars offer them to cover them! Substitute!
1. SRC P-15
  
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  7 February 2016 11: 10
  
  “The most realistic is the organization of a court at the national level of one of the countries involved in the investigation
  
  But what is there, say it bluntly: the trial should be held in Ukraine.
  1. udincev
    
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    7 February 2016 11: 50
    
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    say directly: the trial should be held in Ukraine
    
    I realized: over Ukraine.
  2. tolian
    
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    7 February 2016 12: 42
    
    And he did. The whole thinking world is laughing.
2. Ami du peuple
  
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  7 February 2016 11: 11
  
  Quote: Pravdarm
  It seems to me - they realized that they are losing their face! What is becoming a lie! And liars offer them to cover them! Substitute!
  
  Oh what! "Lose face"! Yes, they even look in the eyes .. They just decided that under the auspices of the UN, such a tribunal would not work and now they will try to arrange a farce in national courts. It is hard to believe in the objectivity of the Dutch, and even more so, the Ukrainian justice. Especially on such a committed case. In the best case, the process will simply be delayed until public interest in it finally disappears.
3. Koshak
  
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  7 February 2016 18: 21
  
  Quote: Pravdarm
  it is a matter of criminal prosecution of persons and that evidence is needed for this
  
  The most important thing: "... we are talking about the criminal prosecution of individuals and that this requires evidence."
  NO EVIDENCE! What could be the court?
Sid.74

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7 February 2016 11: 09

First you understand the French film about the Maidan and the Nazis ... And now here ... Somewhere on the horizon you can already hear the inhuman Svidomo moan from the unfulfilled peremog.
MIKHALYCH1

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7 February 2016 11: 16

Campaign word TRIBUNAL ... someone really scared! Russia is silent and collects charges!
Blondy

+2

7 February 2016 11: 38

Or maybe Russia to insist - they baldly accused all over the world, all sorts of sanctions were announced
Dryuya2

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7 February 2016 12: 04

Quote: NIKNN
Who to judge?

I’m very surprised (honestly) if kaklov is blamed.
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Here is such a "picture" (there are kids, and there are 30-40 year olds) prepared by prostitutes
- getting ready !!! The stink will be a lot. on all fronts
the title of the video says a lot

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just exp

7 February 2016 11: 12

Yes, it’s just that kaklov is drained, that's why they stopped insisting.
if necessary, they will again insist, in general, not a country, but a tincture.

vovanpain

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7 February 2016 11: 13

Quote: Black

Who will allow them to judge American friends

But they will not judge their slaves when they themselves snout to the nines.

APASUS

7 February 2016 11: 26

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Why insist? Who will allow them to judge American buddies? ... Pets Roshenko and so went into the bout, after the latest statements by Dutch experts ...

And no one was going to judge buddies. Everything was done to accuse the militia (almost directly pointed to the Russian leadership). But then the rocket manufacturer Almaz-Antey intervened with his experiments and the theory so carefully structured began to crumble. To continue to demand a tribunal in this situation is to show incompetent.

Misha Honest

7 February 2016 13: 06

Otherwise, they will break the point with logic! winked

meriem1

8 February 2016 07: 24

All! There is simply nothing to cover !!! And at home with his trebunal, let them at least burst from the exertion.

izya top

7 February 2016 11: 04

I hope that someday our tribunal will arrange a Kukuev junta. And without involving all kinds of Western-oriented lawyers

ver_

0

7 February 2016 11: 38

... and don't even hope, here besides the "cleaners" no one will help - no human - no problem, the owner of the penguin will "clean up" the clearing, if not to piss, and as if it was just like that .. if only they fly on one plywood over Paris ..,
udincev

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7 February 2016 11: 57

Quote: izya top
and without the involvement of all kinds of Western-oriented lawyers

and stupidly biased and expressed London courts

Pereira

7 February 2016 11: 05

The Dutch will never give Putin away. Democratic killing is beyond the jurisdiction of a totalitarian court.

15 apr

7 February 2016 11: 09

And what to insist is that they will receive another veto from Russia.

evil partisan

7 February 2016 11: 18

In the process, our experts managed to fill up the initial version of the disaster with actual material.

beck

when you conduct an human investigation, then you can talk about the courts! where is the testimony of dispatchers, where is the testimony of black boxes (why not made public)

udincev

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7 February 2016 12: 05

Quote: beck
where is the testimony of dispatchers, where is the testimony of black boxes (why not made public)

In which prison is the illegal leadership (junta?) allowing civilian flights over the civil war zone of war (disguised as a terrorist capture operation)? a sea of other questions, if you think not for those who have lost not only the face of the United States, but a little sensibly, from the facts ...

BAT

7 February 2016 11: 20

Why is it so???? What happened Not fused? Or the facts are all the same, the thing is stubborn !!! Or maybe just now, it's time to organize a tribunal? At the same time, consider on it all the other crimes of the junta?

ver_

0

7 February 2016 11: 42

... "so much the worse for the facts .."

Great-grandfather of Zeus

"They no longer insist" - how will they live without tincture on some jambs? fool

fa2998

7 February 2016 11: 22

Any court (tribunal) requires the ACCUSED, with the materials of the CONSEQUENCE of his guilt. For a year and a half they have only SUPPLEMENTS, and no surnames. All with a pitchfork on the water, now they no longer insist on a tribunal, and at the end of the investigation they will write that it was not possible to identify the accused! what

Gormenghast

7 February 2016 11: 25

The national court in Ukraine ruled: to recognize the genocide of the proto-ukrov by the Russian Neanderthals; "they also destroyed the chapel". laughing

Anchonsha

How American litter rushes about to find at least some way out of the drama of the Malaysian liner dragged on in Ukraine. If Russia hadn’t used a smelly West for a long time, it would have finally accused the militias of the crash of the liner and the entire DNI and LC were crushed by the whole Bandera-Geyrope mass

BOB044

7 February 2016 11: 31

Naturally, the Ukrainian government would have to be held accountable and the United States would have questions.

const72

7 February 2016 11: 34

Do not wash so skating. This trial will be held, although not under the auspices of the UN, but since several countries will be called international, a simple layman will not understand, international and truncated. The result is clear, damaging the reputation of Russia, and the appointment of perpetrators from among the leaders of the DPR. Bastards, in general, everything is as usual

gla172

7 February 2016 11: 42

___________---)

udincev

7 February 2016 11: 46

“I think this is a realistic time frame,” he emphasized. “Of course, everyone wants the process to go faster, but it’s important to consider that this is a criminal prosecution of persons and that evidence is needed for this”

It is strange that for the conviction of Russia six months ago at the international tribunal there was no need for evidence. And in order to convict the chocolate face and the company it turns out the evidence still needs to be collected half a year really half a year ... Or are times changing?
A little encouraging.

Pvi1206

For all the time since the catastrophe, the West has not managed to find at least some evidence of Russia's guilt and hide Ukraine's involvement in this. They refuse the tribunal because even the Western "justice system" could not whitewash Ukraine and accuse Russia. Everything is clear to everyone, but the West cannot / does not want to admit its fiasco.

pts-m

7 February 2016 11: 55

That, forks I didn’t get to rub in points to the rest of the countries not included in the "six" of the most frostbitten countries in the world. Wind chimes are synonymous with Bullhones.

tehnokrat

7 February 2016 12: 01

I hope that the trump card in this case still exists, and it is with us.
That there are convincing facts regarding the testimony of the Ukrainian pilot who returned without ammunition:
“The plane is not the same. He was not in the right place, at the wrong time. "
And what was that one? Russian board number 1, passed a few hours earlier?

But I don’t want to talk or hear about the country through and through bl ... literally and figuratively! ..

fzr1000

Ah, here it is! They do not insist. And now we need to insist that the true perpetrators get theirs. And all this is not serious, as in a communal kitchen.

rotmistr60

7 February 2016 12: 09

Another red tape begins, during which the guilt of Russia and the militia will again be exaggerated. Only this time they decided to go from the other end. Yes, to make you empty, "fighters for justice" damn!

koralvit

7 February 2016 12: 13

It takes time to find options to blame the militias and Russia, it is necessary to prove to the whole world - the militia is the terrorists who committed such a monstrous act of terrorism, shot down the Boeing, killed so many innocent people. But there is no evidence to prove it is impossible, especially since Russia presented directly incontrovertible facts; ukrovoyaki shot down the plane. And the Dutch investigators immediately realized that this attack was agreed with the Americans, but they remain extreme, and they are forced to lie believably.

Nyrobsky

7 February 2016 12: 23

Return to the discussion within six months. Oh well...
Six months later, with current strains from Europe, stone on stone may not remain

mr.grin19z

7 February 2016 12: 34

one will be beaten forgive the other and can enter the system

aba

7 February 2016 12: 35

However, the Dutch and Ukrainian prosecutors intend to extend them.

Waiting for a padishah or a donkey ?!

Alekseir162

7 February 2016 12: 38

The Netherlands will no longer return to the idea of creating a tribunal

The black lord of all the geyrops said enough was enough, and everyone immediately agreed.

padded jacket

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7 February 2016 13: 02

And what is there to investigate?
And so they clearly shot down a Boeing on an order from Kiev, and they were apparently advised from Washington and Tel Aviv to have very rich experience in organizing provocations with civilian airliners against the USSR and they themselves did it.
Let us recall how the Iranian Airbus over the Persian Gulf was shot down.

shelva

7 February 2016 13: 19

Apparently, the experts were convinced that the APU was to blame, and decided not to focus on this.

Altona

7 February 2016 13: 40

This stupid undertaking failed from the very beginning. And despite the fact that Ukraine has not provided any data for its part. And the plane then crashed on its territory. So, if objectively, then in any case the fault is Ukrainian.

yuriy55

7 February 2016 13: 49

Foreign Minister: Netherlands more don't insist...

It would be better to insist longer and filter more thoroughly ... before using ...

iouris

7 February 2016 19: 10

The creation of a tribunal may facilitate the association of Ukraine with the EU, but it is the Dutch who are most likely to oppose the upcoming referendum.
The unprincipled West uses and refers to such tragic events as the deaths of hundreds of fellow citizens in provocations of a planetary scale solely from the point of view of momentary profit. Citizens of the West see only when it comes to their wallets and comfort.

Kudrevkn

8 February 2016 09: 05

Beech tea is not a slingshot to shoot accurately - it is treasure not only to be able to, but also to point the bird at the hunter! and the bird itself flies 15 km per minute at an altitude of 10 km. ZR - 30 km per minute at a distance of no more than 28 - 30 km! Here's a puzzle on geometry with the Pythagorean theorem: the question "Where was the hunter and who (whose?) Was he when he shot the bird?" Yes, the Dutch don't have Bucks for modeling, but the Malaysians also have Russian ones. and khokhlyatskie old Buki and rackets for them. and specialists in missiles, ballistics, mathematics, radiometry (radars), etc. They are what are silent, do not demand anything? Probably, Europe and the USA were so intimidated that Malaysia put its tongue in ... As for the operation itself, how the Boeing was shot down - a typical corral of flags! the dispatcher and Dnepropetrovsk clearly pointed the plane to the hunter. he shot - aimed at the plane Il - 96 "Russia", and got into "Malaysia Avia" ?!