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Foreign Minister: the Netherlands no longer insist on creating a Boeing Tribunal under the auspices of the UN

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The Netherlands will no longer return to the idea of ​​creating a UN-level tribunal for the criminal prosecution of those responsible for the crash of a Malaysian Boeing in Ukraine in 2014 g, reports Look with reference to the Foreign Minister of the country Bert Kunders.




“As you know, last summer, before the final report of the Netherlands Security Council on the Boeing crash was published, the Dutch government and partners in the Joint Investigation Group decided that the establishment of a tribunal would be the best option for prosecuting those responsible for the tragedy. UN auspices. However, Russia blocked this decision in the UN Security Council. And for me now, this option seems to be a dead end, ”said Kunders.

“The most realistic is the organization of the court at the national level by one of the countries involved in the investigation or the tribunal with the participation of all countries belonging to the Joint Investigation Team (Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, the Netherlands and Ukraine). The decision has not yet been made. This issue is being discussed and, as I said in January, I hope that within six months the decision will be made, ”the diplomat said.

“I think these are real deadlines,” he stressed. “Of course, everyone wants the process to go faster, but it is important to bear in mind that we are talking about criminal prosecution of persons and that this requires evidence.”

The newspaper reminds that today the terms of the agreement on the activities of the joint investigation team are expiring. However, the Dutch and Ukrainian prosecutors intend to extend them.
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  1. The black
    The black 7 February 2016 11: 03
    17
    Why insist? Who will allow them to judge American buddies? ... Pets Roshenko and so went into the bout, after the latest statements by Dutch experts ...
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      NIKNN
      NIKNN 7 February 2016 11: 03
      15
      [quoteNetherlands no longer insists on setting up Boeing tribunal under UN auspices]


      Russia is not to blame for the tribune? Who to judge? democracy ...?
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  1. Pravdarm
    Pravdarm 7 February 2016 11: 05
    +5
    It seems to me - they realized that they are losing their face! What is becoming a lie! And liars offer them to cover them! Substitute!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 7 February 2016 11: 10
      +4
      “The most realistic is the organization of a court at the national level of one of the countries involved in the investigation

      But what is there, say it bluntly: the trial should be held in Ukraine. fool
      1. udincev
        udincev 7 February 2016 11: 50
        +3
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        say directly: the trial should be held in Ukraine

        I realized: over Ukraine.
      2. tolian
        tolian 7 February 2016 12: 42
        0
        And he did. The whole thinking world is laughing.
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 7 February 2016 11: 11
      +4
      Quote: Pravdarm
      It seems to me - they realized that they are losing their face! What is becoming a lie! And liars offer them to cover them! Substitute!

      Oh what! "Lose face"! Yes, they even look in the eyes .. They just decided that under the auspices of the UN, such a tribunal would not work and now they will try to arrange a farce in national courts. It is hard to believe in the objectivity of the Dutch, and even more so, the Ukrainian justice. Especially on such a committed case. In the best case, the process will simply be delayed until public interest in it finally disappears.
    3. Koshak
      Koshak 7 February 2016 18: 21
      +1
      Quote: Pravdarm
      it is a matter of criminal prosecution of persons and that evidence is needed for this

      The most important thing: "... we are talking about the criminal prosecution of individuals and that this requires evidence."
      NO EVIDENCE! What could be the court?
  2. Sid.74
    Sid.74 7 February 2016 11: 09
    +3
    First you understand the French film about the Maidan and the Nazis ... And now here ... Somewhere on the horizon you can already hear the inhuman Svidomo moan from the unfulfilled peremog.
  3. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 7 February 2016 11: 16
    +2
    Campaign word TRIBUNAL ... someone really scared! bully Russia is silent and collects charges!
  4. Blondy
    Blondy 7 February 2016 11: 38
    +2
    Or maybe Russia to insist - they baldly accused all over the world, all sorts of sanctions were announced
  5. Dryuya2
    Dryuya2 7 February 2016 12: 04
    0
    Quote: NIKNN
    Who to judge?

    I’m very surprised (honestly) if kaklov is blamed.
    ===========
    Here is such a "picture" (there are kids, and there are 30-40 year olds) prepared by prostitutes
    - getting ready !!! The stink will be a lot. on all fronts
    the title of the video says a lot
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  • just exp
    just exp 7 February 2016 11: 12
    +2
    Yes, it’s just that kaklov is drained, that's why they stopped insisting.
    if necessary, they will again insist, in general, not a country, but a tincture.
  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 7 February 2016 11: 13
    15
    Quote: Black
    Who will allow them to judge American friends

    But they will not judge their slaves when they themselves snout to the nines. hi
  • APASUS
    APASUS 7 February 2016 11: 26
    +2
    quote
    Quote: Black
    Why insist? Who will allow them to judge American buddies? ... Pets Roshenko and so went into the bout, after the latest statements by Dutch experts ...

    And no one was going to judge buddies. Everything was done to accuse the militia (almost directly pointed to the Russian leadership). But then the rocket manufacturer Almaz-Antey intervened with his experiments and the theory so carefully structured began to crumble. To continue to demand a tribunal in this situation is to show incompetent.
  • Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 7 February 2016 13: 06
    0
    Foreign Minister: the Netherlands no longer insist on creating a Boeing Tribunal under the auspices of the UN

    Otherwise, they will break the point with logic! winked
  • meriem1
    meriem1 8 February 2016 07: 24
    0
    All! There is simply nothing to cover !!! And at home with his trebunal, let them at least burst from the exertion.
  • izya top
    izya top 7 February 2016 11: 04
    +3
    I hope that someday our tribunal will arrange a Kukuev junta. And without involving all kinds of Western-oriented lawyers
    1. ver_
      ver_ 7 February 2016 11: 38
      0
      ... and don't even hope, here besides the "cleaners" no one will help - no human - no problem, the owner of the penguin will "clean up" the clearing, if not to piss, and as if it was just like that .. if only they fly on one plywood over Paris ..,
    2. udincev
      udincev 7 February 2016 11: 57
      0
      Quote: izya top
      and without the involvement of all kinds of Western-oriented lawyers

      and stupidly biased and expressed London courts
  • Pereira
    Pereira 7 February 2016 11: 05
    +2
    The Dutch will never give Putin away. Democratic killing is beyond the jurisdiction of a totalitarian court.
  • 15 apr
    15 apr 7 February 2016 11: 09
    +1
    And what to insist is that they will receive another veto from Russia.
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 7 February 2016 11: 18
    0
    In the process, our experts managed to fill up the initial version of the disaster with actual material.
  • beck
    beck 7 February 2016 11: 18
    +2
    when you conduct an human investigation, then you can talk about the courts! where is the testimony of dispatchers, where is the testimony of black boxes (why not made public)
    1. udincev
      udincev 7 February 2016 12: 05
      0
      Quote: beck
      where is the testimony of dispatchers, where is the testimony of black boxes (why not made public)

      In which prison is the illegal leadership (junta?) allowing civilian flights over the civil war zone of war (disguised as a terrorist capture operation)? a sea of ​​other questions, if you think not for those who have lost not only the face of the United States, but a little sensibly, from the facts ...
  • sichevik
    sichevik 7 February 2016 11: 20
    0
    Why is it so???? What happened Not fused? Or the facts are all the same, the thing is stubborn !!! Or maybe just now, it's time to organize a tribunal? At the same time, consider on it all the other crimes of the junta?
    1. ver_
      ver_ 7 February 2016 11: 42
      0
      ... "so much the worse for the facts .."
  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 7 February 2016 11: 20
    +1
    "They no longer insist" - how will they live without tincture on some jambs? fool
  • fa2998
    fa2998 7 February 2016 11: 22
    0
    Any court (tribunal) requires the ACCUSED, with the materials of the CONSEQUENCE of his guilt. For a year and a half they have only SUPPLEMENTS, and no surnames. All with a pitchfork on the water, now they no longer insist on a tribunal, and at the end of the investigation they will write that it was not possible to identify the accused! what hi
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 7 February 2016 11: 25
    +1
    The national court in Ukraine ruled: to recognize the genocide of the proto-ukrov by the Russian Neanderthals; "they also destroyed the chapel". laughing
  • Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 7 February 2016 11: 26
    +1
    How American litter rushes about to find at least some way out of the drama of the Malaysian liner dragged on in Ukraine. If Russia hadn’t used a smelly West for a long time, it would have finally accused the militias of the crash of the liner and the entire DNI and LC were crushed by the whole Bandera-Geyrope mass
  • BOB044
    BOB044 7 February 2016 11: 31
    0
    Foreign Minister: the Netherlands no longer insist on creating a Boeing Tribunal under the auspices of the UN
    Naturally, the Ukrainian government would have to be held accountable and the United States would have questions.
  • const72
    const72 7 February 2016 11: 34
    0
    Do not wash so skating. This trial will be held, although not under the auspices of the UN, but since several countries will be called international, a simple layman will not understand, international and truncated. The result is clear, damaging the reputation of Russia, and the appointment of perpetrators from among the leaders of the DPR. Bastards, in general, everything is as usual
  • gla172
    gla172 7 February 2016 11: 42
    +5
    ___________---)
  • udincev
    udincev 7 February 2016 11: 46
    0
    “I think this is a realistic time frame,” he emphasized. “Of course, everyone wants the process to go faster, but it’s important to consider that this is a criminal prosecution of persons and that evidence is needed for this”

    It is strange that for the conviction of Russia six months ago at the international tribunal there was no need for evidence. And in order to convict the chocolate face and the company it turns out the evidence still needs to be collected half a year really half a year ... Or are times changing?
    A little encouraging.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 7 February 2016 11: 46
    0
    For all the time since the catastrophe, the West has not managed to find at least some evidence of Russia's guilt and hide Ukraine's involvement in this. They refuse the tribunal because even the Western "justice system" could not whitewash Ukraine and accuse Russia. Everything is clear to everyone, but the West cannot / does not want to admit its fiasco.
  • pts-m
    pts-m 7 February 2016 11: 55
    0
    That, forks I didn’t get to rub in points to the rest of the countries not included in the "six" of the most frostbitten countries in the world. Wind chimes are synonymous with Bullhones.
  • tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 7 February 2016 12: 01
    0
    I hope that the trump card in this case still exists, and it is with us.
    That there are convincing facts regarding the testimony of the Ukrainian pilot who returned without ammunition:
    “The plane is not the same. He was not in the right place, at the wrong time. "
    And what was that one? Russian board number 1, passed a few hours earlier?

    But I don’t want to talk or hear about the country through and through bl ... literally and figuratively! ..
  • fzr1000
    fzr1000 7 February 2016 12: 01
    0
    Ah, here it is! They do not insist. And now we need to insist that the true perpetrators get theirs. And all this is not serious, as in a communal kitchen.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 February 2016 12: 09
    0
    Another red tape begins, during which the guilt of Russia and the militia will again be exaggerated. Only this time they decided to go from the other end. Yes, to make you empty, "fighters for justice" damn!
  • koralvit
    koralvit 7 February 2016 12: 13
    0
    It takes time to find options to blame the militias and Russia, it is necessary to prove to the whole world - the militia is the terrorists who committed such a monstrous act of terrorism, shot down the Boeing, killed so many innocent people. But there is no evidence to prove it is impossible, especially since Russia presented directly incontrovertible facts; ukrovoyaki shot down the plane. And the Dutch investigators immediately realized that this attack was agreed with the Americans, but they remain extreme, and they are forced to lie believably.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 7 February 2016 12: 23
    0
    Return to the discussion within six months. Oh well...
    Six months later, with current strains from Europe, stone on stone may not remain
  • mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 7 February 2016 12: 34
    0
    one will be beaten forgive the other and can enter the system
  • aba
    aba 7 February 2016 12: 35
    0
    However, the Dutch and Ukrainian prosecutors intend to extend them.

    Waiting for a padishah or a donkey ?!
  • Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 7 February 2016 12: 38
    +1
    The Netherlands will no longer return to the idea of ​​creating a tribunal

    The black lord of all the geyrops said enough was enough, and everyone immediately agreed.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 7 February 2016 13: 02
      +1
      And what is there to investigate?
      And so they clearly shot down a Boeing on an order from Kiev, and they were apparently advised from Washington and Tel Aviv to have very rich experience in organizing provocations with civilian airliners against the USSR and they themselves did it.
      Let us recall how the Iranian Airbus over the Persian Gulf was shot down.
  • shelva
    shelva 7 February 2016 13: 19
    +1
    Apparently, the experts were convinced that the APU was to blame, and decided not to focus on this.
  • Altona
    Altona 7 February 2016 13: 40
    0
    This stupid undertaking failed from the very beginning. And despite the fact that Ukraine has not provided any data for its part. And the plane then crashed on its territory. So, if objectively, then in any case the fault is Ukrainian.
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 7 February 2016 13: 49
    0
    Foreign Minister: Netherlands more don't insist.


    It would be better to insist longer and filter more thoroughly ... before using ...
  • iouris
    iouris 7 February 2016 19: 10
    0
    The creation of a tribunal may facilitate the association of Ukraine with the EU, but it is the Dutch who are most likely to oppose the upcoming referendum.
    The unprincipled West uses and refers to such tragic events as the deaths of hundreds of fellow citizens in provocations of a planetary scale solely from the point of view of momentary profit. Citizens of the West see only when it comes to their wallets and comfort.
  • Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 8 February 2016 09: 05
    0
    Beech tea is not a slingshot to shoot accurately - it is treasure not only to be able to, but also to point the bird at the hunter! and the bird itself flies 15 km per minute at an altitude of 10 km. ZR - 30 km per minute at a distance of no more than 28 - 30 km! Here's a puzzle on geometry with the Pythagorean theorem: the question "Where was the hunter and who (whose?) Was he when he shot the bird?" Yes, the Dutch don't have Bucks for modeling, but the Malaysians also have Russian ones. and khokhlyatskie old Buki and rackets for them. and specialists in missiles, ballistics, mathematics, radiometry (radars), etc. They are what are silent, do not demand anything? Probably, Europe and the USA were so intimidated that Malaysia put its tongue in ... As for the operation itself, how the Boeing was shot down - a typical corral of flags! the dispatcher and Dnepropetrovsk clearly pointed the plane to the hunter. he shot - aimed at the plane Il - 96 "Russia", and got into "Malaysia Avia" ?!