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Ground operations in the Volkland War. Part II

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In the anti-blockade actions involved the Argentine submarine "San Luis". In total, she had three combat contacts (1, 8, 11 in May), but only the first was relevant to the future landing party. With a very poor visibility, “San Luis” discovered a big target with security. According to the operation of the hydroacoustic station, the commander of the boat captain 2 of the rank Fernando M. Ascuet identified the targets as destroyers of the type 42 (Sheffield) and frigates of the type 21 (Amazon) or 22 (Brosord). With good sonar contact and incomplete classification of targets, an enemy-controlled torpedo of the “Telefunken” type SS-T-10000 “Telefunken” of German production was released from the 4 m distance, which normally left the device, but after three minutes the operator lost control. The crew decided that the attack fell. However, she got into the MK.182 towed acoustic anti-torpedo device of the Arrow frigate (21 type) and destroyed it.

The British found the boat and 20 watches unsuccessfully pursued her with two helicopters and three frigates. Ships did not approach the boat, but maintained contact. They attacked only helicopters, dropping more than thirty bombs and the Mk.46 torpedo to the target. When they later chose places for the landing, one of the conditions was that the area was inaccessible to submarines, although by that time the San Luis was under repair in Argentina.

Of interest is another episode related to the death of Sheffield. After the Exocet rocket hit the post of the struggle for survivability, the destroyer lost contact with the rest of the patrol ships that came to his aid. Guessing about the causes of the sudden fire, some commanders believed that this time the Argentine submarine achieved an accurate hit. Immediately for the helicopter "Lynx" with "Glasgow" attacked a nonexistent target with torpedoes Mk.46.



"Sheffield" long agonized. During the evacuation of the crew, its commander, Captain Sol, said sadly: "Probably, this ship was created only for one strike!" The British command was no less shocked, including Rear Admiral Woodward, who had high hopes for this type of destroyer. The Argentines had three more Exocset AM-39 missiles and, in order not to give them hope for new successes, the British counterintelligence spread over the BBC the information that the Super Etandar volley hit the target accidentally, since Sheffield did not operate aerial surveillance radar, so as not to interfere with negotiations with London on the satellite system Skynet. Many fell for cunning. Even in the memoirs of M. Thatcher, the death of the ship is explained by a fatal conversation with London. The mystery came true in 1987, when David Brown (head of the maritime history department of the British Navy) waited all the terms for censorship restrictions and published his book written back in 1983.

The British overcame the shock of only 9 in May, when the 317-e connection achieved several encouraging successes. Destroyers of the 42 type were already guarded by frigates of the 22 type ("Broadsord" and "Brilliant"), armed with the C-Wolfe air defense system. Early in the morning of 9 in May, Coventry and Broadsord in 12 miles from Port Stanley two rocket salvoes shot down a helicopter and two aircraft. The successful strike encouraged the British after the death of Sheffield, creating a precedent for violating the enemy’s air lines using naval anti-aircraft missile systems.

On the same day, the Harrier from Hermes discovered and attacked the trawler Narval on a low-level flight. The ship received heavy damage, although part of the bombs did not explode. One sailor died, and the 12 others were injured. A boarding team was landed from three British helicopters on the Narwhal and an Argentine intelligence officer was captured. By the end of the day, the trawler sank from damage. The British sought to prevent any breakthroughs in the blockade, believing that this would help the upcoming landing party to complete the assigned tasks with little blood. On May 10, after a short artillery shootout in the Falkland Strait, the frigate Alakriti destroyed the Isla de los Estados transport. On May 16 in the southern part of the strait, attack aircraft from Hermes attacked a mobilized Rio Carcarana container ship (8482 t) with bombs and two Xi Squay missiles. As a result, the ship was cast ashore and left by the crew. On the same day, a similar fate awaited the 3828-ton military transport "Biaya Buen Suseso", which was loaded with anti-aircraft shells. He was set on fire by the "Harriers" at Fox Bay Pier, and he was also left by the crew. The fire itself went out, but the intensified storm disrupted the transport from the mooring lines, and it drifted in the strait for several days. During the landing operation of 23 in May, he was again discovered and attacked by two Sea Xiu missiles, this time by a helicopter from the frigate AntiLoup. Having suffered severe damage, the "Biaia Buen Suseso" ran aground. Later, the British took him as a trophy.

Ground operations in the Volkland War. Part II


By the middle of May, the headquarters of the 317 operational connection had reliable information from special forces groups that the blockade had done its work and that the enemy was weakened enough. In addition, the nature of the antiamphibious defense, its strengths and weaknesses, and minefields were already known. The impending winter, the diplomatic efforts of Argentina and its Latin American allies urged the British. That is why Woodward believed that the “D” day should not be postponed any longer. 17 May was presented with a landing operation plan. There were several proposed landing sites.

The most enticing of them were in Fox Bay, Fitzroy Bay and San Carlos Bay. The choice of Fox Bay, as a springboard, could mean that the fighting would continue until spring, as it guaranteed a consistent invasion of Fr. West Falkland, and then on the East, which for the above reasons did not suit the 317-e operational connection. The offer with Fitzroy Bay was also rejected, although it had a number of significant advantages. Its proximity to the administrative center promised a quick end to the campaign, but, on the other hand, the place was very open. Woodward was afraid of stormy weather and strong opposition from the enemy, since his forces were at the southern flank of the MPAA of General Menendez. In addition, here the Argentine Exocset anti-ship missiles could show their best. Rejecting all other proposals, the headquarters stopped at a beachhead at the port of San Carlos on the northwestern coast of Fr. East Falkland. It provided an opportunity to bypass Menendez's MRP from sushi. Special Forces groups have established that there are no Argentine troops in the area, the strait is not mined and too shallow to present a real threat from enemy submarines. The steep banks did not allow the use of Exochet anti-ship missiles.

However, there were inconveniences: remoteness from Port Stanley and impassability, which suggested a difficult offensive. The mountains and hills of the area gave the advantage of the Argentine assault aviation. She could secretly approach the landing and ships, bomb with impunity and leave. Close, on about. Peble was a field airfield from which serious antagonism could be expected in the San Carlos area.

But these nuances did not stop Woodward. First, it was decided to neutralize the airfield on about. Pebble 11 May to the north coast of. West Falkland, a helicopter was abandoned by a special forces group of 8 people with boats. Because of the bad weather, she did not have time to move on about. Pebl, but conducted a visual reconnaissance - established the disposition of the enemy and found a landing site for assault group helicopters. On the night of May 14, two “Sea King” from Hermes delivered 45 “commandos” under the command of Major Cedric Delvis, as well as a post to correct the artillery fire of the destroyer “Glamorgan”, which supported the landing with their guns. The saboteurs managed to approach the dirt runway and lay remote-controlled plastic explosive devices in the ammunition depot and on the planes, and after leaving, blew them up. The Argentines tried to counteract, but the commander of the security unit was killed by a sniper and the counterattack failed. The British commando group left the island and returned to Hermes in full force. The garrison lost an ammunition depot, five IA-58 attack aircraft of the Air Force Pukar, three combat training combat Navy T-34s and one Coastguard Skyvenen - all 9 aircraft (according to other sources - 11).



This promotion is considered the most successful in stories British special units after 1945. 21 in May. The 317-th operational unit was to land the main landing force in the San Carlos area and demo in Port Darwin and Fox Bay. At night, in demonstration directions and at Port Stanley, strategic and carrier-based aviation, as well as naval artillery, conducted 30-minute fire training. Not only bombed San Carlos. The airborne squadron approached 20 in the evening and began to maneuver in the 80-90 area miles from the northern entrance to the strait, until special forces groups descended on helicopters and speedboats and prepared landing points. At midnight, the infantry and first-line equipment was already planted on airborne assault vehicles, crossed the Cape Fanning Head traverse (the baseline during the landing) and began to move to the bay of San Carlos.

The train consisted of three stages. With virtually no opposition, the main forces landed at designated and unprotected points at 2.00 h on May 21 under the following weather conditions: sea - 3 points, wind - 10 m / s, air temperature - minus 3 ° C, fog, rain and snow. At the same time as the naval, helicopter landing was also landed, observing a clear organization and maintaining a high pace. The soldiers were superbly trained and equipped. In this regard, individual night vision devices, portable radio stations, etc. are especially interesting. In total, before dawn, 1000 soldiers of the Third Marine Brigade were on the San Carlos bridgehead, light Tanks "Scorpion" and "Simiter", six 105-mm guns, 60 and 81-mm mortars, ATGM "Milan". Anti-tank and anti-aircraft defense was organized. Entrance to the strait “Entrim”, “Ardent”, “Antilope” and “Diamond” were to assist her.

North of the island maneuvered shipborne radar patrol of the Coventry and Broadsord frigates. In the morning the landing of the brigade was discovered by Argentine air reconnaissance. The first attacked four attack aircraft "Pukara" with Port Stanley, two of which were shot down. The 10.00 General of the Argentine Air Force, Ernesto Crespia, who was responsible for the air strikes, finally received an official report on the events in the archipelago and organized 11 strikes on the landing party, in which a total of 68 bombers participated. By the end of the day, 20 had not returned to their bases. In the afternoon, the attacks followed one after the other. The planes flew low, camouflaging themselves in the folds of the terrain, going out on targets and bombing at low altitude. As a result, the frigate “Ardent” was destroyed, and the “Entrim”, “Broadsord”, “Brilliant” and “Argonaut” were damaged by projectiles and unexploded bombs of the Mk.82 type.



British fighters could hardly intercept these aircraft, but they managed to disrupt the transfer of Argentine commandos in the San Carlos area. Thus, the southern patrol destroyed two helicopters in flight (Puma and Chinook) and thus prevented General Menendez’s plans to conduct an antiamphibious defense. Of virtually all the forces of the garrison, only strike aircraft was able to counteract the start of Operation Souton.

The next day, a second echelon was planted consisting of a 200 man, 105-mm guns, mortars, etc. The construction of a field airfield and the strengthening of the bridgehead began. Argentines did not hinder this. Aviation was engaged in the transportation of reinforcements to Port Stanley and the protection of transport aircraft.

Argentine aircraft continued to attack in the strait. As a result, the anti-Loop frigate was destroyed, and the Sir Galahed and Sir Lancelot amphibious transports were damaged. The targeting of the Argentine strike aircraft was carried out from a Boeing 707 aircraft. It was discovered by the destroyer Coventry at Pebl Island, but due to a malfunction of the Sea Dart air defense system, the British did not manage to knock it down.

The national holiday of Argentina 25 May was marked by powerful air strikes on the landing force and ships 317-th connection. Its attack aircraft destroyed two Atlantic Conveer AM-39 missiles and three Coventry bombs. Broadsord was damaged. The Argentine naval aviation still had another anti-ship missile, and on May 30 tried to sink the enemy aircraft carrier for the last time. 10 Skyhawk attack aircraft and a Super Etandar deck bomber participated in the attack. In the battle, the Invincible escort drove down two aircraft, the dipole reflectors from the destroyer Glamorgan rejected the missile, and the 114-mm gun from Evencher shot her.

By the end of May, battles were fought on the sea, in the air and on land. After the forces strengthened on the bridgehead in San Carlos, the brigade commander ordered the second airborne battalion (commander Lieutenant Colonel Herbert Jones) to seize the narrow isthmus connecting the northern part of East Falkland to the Lafonia peninsula and isolate the garrison of the administrative center of Lafonia and isolate the garrison of the Eastern Falkland Peninsula and isolate the garrison of the administrative center of Lafonia. Two 81-mm mortars and three 105-mm guns were transferred to Jones for this task, which together with the ammunition were delivered to the 12 position by helicopters. The offensive was supported from the right flank of the 114-mm gun from the Arrow frigate, as well as the three Harrier GR.3 bombers. The battalion approached the enemy after a march on the night of May 27. On the isthmus there were two villages - Gus Green and Port Darwin. There, the Argentines were built airfield, fortifications and warehouses. The garrison numbered 2000 people under the command of Commodore Pedros, an air force officer. He managed to unravel the intentions of the enemy and asked for help from General Menendez, who sent helicopters to him with a helicopter.



The offensive began on May 28. English paratroopers easily captured the approaches to Port Darwin, however, when they approached the main positions, units had to lie down under heavy fire of anti-aircraft machine guns and machine guns. Two Skyhawks and two Pucara attack aircraft flew from Port Stanley and launched an air strike. Although a company of fire support shot down half the aircraft, the damage was significant. In battle, Lt. Col. Jones was mortally wounded. The command of the battalion took major Kibel. He managed to master the situation, take advantage of artillery support from the Arrow, as well as the fact that three “Harriers” were hit by anti-aircraft positions at wooden houses and Gus Green piers. His fire support company destroyed several of the anti-tank artillery missiles of the anti-tank missiles "Milan". The battalion occupied Port Darwin, broke through the left flank of the enemy defense and surrounded him in Gus Green. 29 May Commodore Pedrosa ordered the garrison to be folded weapon.

Then the brigade continued its advance to the east, successfully overcoming off-road. Argentines offered sluggish resistance. In early June, it was decided to accelerate the offensive by landing the fifth infantry brigade in Fitzroy Bay, south of Port Stanley. After a tiring march, the 2 airborne battalion approached this place along the coast. On the night of June 6 without security, the first transport arrived in the area and began disembarking. 7-th all repeated again. The next day, the Sir Galahed and Sir Tristan amphibious assault ships entered the bay, guarded by the Plymouth frigate, and began unloading combat vehicles and troops. They were discovered by servicemen of the Argentine coastal mobile radar, which caused attack aircraft. As a result, Sir Galahed and the Foxtrot 4 landing craft were sunk, and Sir Tristan and Plymouth were heavily damaged. The brigade lost 51 people killed and 46 wounded. During the air attacks, most of the property and equipment of the paratroopers was destroyed. Argentines lost five bombers.

The bloody events of June 8 did not stop the upcoming. By June 11 approached the approaches Port Stanley. On the night of June 12, an event occurred that went unnoticed, although important for the statistics of modern naval history. “Glamorgan” has already finished shelling enemy positions when, on 2.35 nights from the 18 distance of miles, it was covered with a volley of coastal rocket battery Exeset MM-38. The commander of the 1 rank captain, M. Barrow, increased the speed to 24 bonds, turned the ship aside to the coast, put passive interference in the form of a cloud of dipole reflectors and used the C Cat air defense system to attack the aerial target. However, the measures did not bring results - the rocket hit the stern hangar, damaged the Wessex helicopter, six out of ten people were killed in the room. Its combat unit did not explode, but the destroyer was very seriously injured by the fire. Between 13 and 19 June, the crew managed to eliminate the fire with the help of the Wall Sispert rescue ship. This was the first successful attack of the World Defense Forces team in world naval history.



The decisive attack on Port Stanley began on June 12 with the support of aviation and the ships of the 317 junction. In this situation, General Menendez capitulated in 21.00 h on 14 Jun.

During the fighting, the sides suffered the following losses: Great Britain: 255 killed, 777 injured, seven destroyed and 11 heavily damaged ships and transports, 12 aircraft and 23 helicopters. The expenses of Great Britain for the restoration of destroyed and damaged equipment amounted to 900 million pounds sterling, for military operations - 700 million, for the maintenance of the garrison before 1986 - 400 million.
Argentina: 712 or 652 killed, of which 58 pilots, 1000 injured and sick; 109 airplanes (31 A-4, 26 Mirage, 23 1A-56 Pu-ra, 1 medium-range bomber Canberra, 1 C-130, etc.) and 13 helicopters, two combat and seven auxiliary ships and transports.

Crucial for the success of Operation Souton was the tactical surprise of the landing, with a rapid increase in forces on the bridgehead at night. This was facilitated by the use of high-speed amphibious assault vehicles and multipurpose helicopters. Perhaps there is no other example in the history of local wars after 1945, when a large naval landing group did not have full air superiority. The only exception is Operation Pluto in Cochinos Bay (16-19 on April 1961), but it ended in the defeat of the invading forces. However, in that case, the actions of the antiamphibious defense forces were much more active and aggressive, in comparison with the actions of General Menendez, who gave the initiative to the enemy and passively waited for his actions.



In contrast to the ground forces, Argentine aviation made a significant contribution to the effectiveness of counter-blocking operations and antiamphibious defense. On her account all destroyed British ships and strikes on the 3 and 5 teams on the island. Of the planned 505 flights, she performed 445, although only 302 ended successfully. At the same time every fifth aircraft was lost. The reason for the large losses - obsolete, free-falling bombs, primitive aviation navigation equipment and the wrong choice of targets - often attack aircraft instead of transports attacked well-armed destroyers and frigates, which did not contribute to the disruption of the landing force. Against this background, the success of the Super Etandar squadron, which sank two ships with Exocet missiles without loss in its composition, is particularly noticeable. Having shot the entire stock of anti-ship missiles, the Argentine Navy sought by all means to get more. But, as mentioned above, France refused. The government of Tel Aviv also denies selling weapons to them. In all likelihood, the smugglers went to meet the junta, however, with great delay, so that their efforts could no longer change anything, unless the statistics.

The day before Port Stanley's surrender, 13 Jun, the Canberra bomber launched a remote-controlled missile, apparently the Israeli Gabriel Mk.2, on the frigate Penelope guarding the Nordic Ferry transport. She did not hit the target, as she was shot from anti-aircraft guns, and from other escort ships the plane was shot down by a Sea Dart missile.

Outdated aviation weapons, the passivity of the garrison and the poor coordination of the types of armed forces did not allow Argentina to use its superiority in the air, which ultimately was crucial to the outcome of the South Atlantic crisis. The incomplete preparation of Operation Rosario had an effect on the course of events, in which was a great professional miscalculation of General Galtieri and his entourage. On the other hand, the excellent planning of the headquarters of the 317 unit, unconventional solutions to problems, the availability of modern weapons, excellent equipment and training of British soldiers and sailors returned to Britain a colony in the southern Atlantic Ocean.



Sources:
Woodward D. The Falklands War. Simferopol: Share, 2005. C. 24-26, 247-253.
Mityaeva E. The Anglo-Argentine conflict over the Falkland Islands (Malvinas). M .: International Relations, 1985. C. 4-7, 42-45.
Biryusov A. The Anglo-Argentine Conflict // Foreign Military Review. 1984. No.5. C. 12-19.
Kozhukharov A. Landing in the South Atlantic Crisis // Sea collection. 1995. No.6. C.70-74.
Usikov A. Some lessons and conclusions from the Anglo-Argentine conflict // Military History Journal. 1983. No.4. C.67-73.
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  1. qwert
    qwert 11 February 2016 07: 31
    17
    Argentinean bombs and missiles stubbornly did not explode. Whether such is the quality of military products in the United States and France. Or something else. But the statistics are too suspicious. If everything was in order with the ammunition, the victory of the British would have been much less joyful. And Argentinean pilots in general deserve respect. Desperate guys.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 11 February 2016 08: 42
      +5
      Quote: qwert
      Whether such is the quality of military products in the United States and France. Or something else.

      Violation of storage conditions and regular inspection. Because of the mess in general.
      1. Loreal
        Loreal 11 February 2016 09: 17
        0
        Due to improper exposure of the detonator, in general ...
    2. Doctor Evil
      Doctor Evil 11 February 2016 09: 13
      +4
      The non-calculated drop path, as one of the reasons that most of the bombs that hit the target, did not explode. The fuses simply did not have time to stand on a combat platoon. I read somewhere that after the war, the Argentines filed complaints with the bomb manufacturers, but I don’t know how it ended. And the pilots of the Argentines are desperate!
      1. Loreal
        Loreal 11 February 2016 09: 23
        0
        The bomb maker was English, the manual was written by "their" ...
    3. Loreal
      Loreal 11 February 2016 09: 16
      +1
      The most effective anti-ship ace is Roberto Kurilovich (they write that Yugoslav / Croat).
    4. Poppy
      Poppy 11 February 2016 10: 10
      +5
      if everything exploded, then it’s not at all a fact that the British would have won
  2. Walking
    Walking 11 February 2016 07: 57
    +7
    Pilot training was at a level that can not be said about the hunters. The ground army could only do coups and could not really fight against a trained enemy.
    1. Doctor Evil
      Doctor Evil 11 February 2016 09: 02
      +6
      In general, I agree with you, but it should be noted that the most combat-ready units of the ground forces were pulled to the border with Chile. In my opinion, those who were at hand at the moment, even without part of the regular heavy weapons, were sent to the islands.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 11 February 2016 09: 58
      +9
      "The training of the pilots was at a level, which cannot be said about the landings" ////

      Exactly. The Argentinean told me about this, with whom
      I served. He was in Argentina during the Falkland War.
      In addition to the Air Force, the army was "parade", without real exercises or firing.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 11 February 2016 08: 05
    11
    Then, we are schoolchildren, very sorry .. that did not work out for Argentina .. Thank you ..
    1. Loreal
      Loreal 11 February 2016 09: 00
      0
      About ground operations, something is generally just one line, even worse than in the first part of the article.
      They started only with Goose-Green, continued with a number of battles east of them, and not a word about all this!
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Фолклендская_война
      and he writes in more detail, but mistakenly brought San Carlos, like the author, into the ground (because it is an amphibious assault).
  4. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 11 February 2016 09: 54
    +3
    "there was no air surveillance radar at Sheffield,
    so as not to interfere with negotiations with London on the Skynet satellite system
    Many fell for the trick .... ////

    Sheffield did not release clouds of aluminum foil towards the CD -
    dipole reflectors, which perfectly saved the other two destroyers.
    Those. the radar - for some reason - didn’t exactly work.
    The sailors saw an approaching rocket and tried to bring it down
    of anti-aircraft guns - unsuccessfully.
  5. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 11 February 2016 10: 07
    +4
    nice cycle! thank! I read it with pleasure. Argentinean pilots - yes guys are desperate for sure!
  6. Pomeranian
    Pomeranian 11 February 2016 10: 22
    +9
    An interesting article, however, like the whole cycle. Wow, it will happen that exactly in the 80's I made a report on this topic. What was remembered from there and the author seems to have missed this fact, after the Falkland conflict, the British began to install machine-gun weapons on their ships for firing at low-flying targets. Prior to this, such weapons were abandoned, considering it obsolete and ineffective.
    The warrior Wow is absolutely right, the army of Argentina was operetta, the draftees and did not want to fight at all, and the population of the Falklands, let's say, was met by the invaders. But what surprised and pleased me, in the capital (not very large village with a couple of streets and TWO taxi cars in the 1992 year) Port - Stanley there are monuments to all the dead soldiers of all warring parties, starting from the 1 world. And they are all listed by name ... We would.
    1. Loreal
      Loreal 11 February 2016 11: 16
      0
      Quote: Pomoryanin
      We would be so.

      We would - yes! We sometimes perished more on a street in a city or a village.
      1. Pomeranian
        Pomeranian 11 February 2016 11: 54
        0
        Quote: Loreal
        We would - yes! We sometimes perished more on a street in a city or a village.

        I had in mind memory ... And not military skill.
        1. Loreal
          Loreal 11 February 2016 13: 06
          +1
          It was necessary to keep in mind the scale ...

          What kind of skill was there specifically? The author somehow did not write anything on this subject in both parts.
  7. qwert
    qwert 11 February 2016 10: 31
    +3
    The author is right that the actions of the ground forces cannot be considered without the actions of the aviation and navy, if those affect the balance of power. The blockade by the British of the island did not allow the Argentines to build up military forces, the destruction of vehicles with the Harriers allowed them to survive on the island a little longer and reduce losses. If you do not indicate such things, it will not be clear why the Argentines did not surpass a couple of divisions and several dozen tanks on the islands.
    In general, I hope to continue the cycle. About the same air and sea operations. I would also read about what was happening in politics then. Who supported whom.
  8. Pimply
    Pimply 11 February 2016 10: 49
    +4
    Overall a great article. thank
  9. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 11 February 2016 13: 08
    +1
    The Argentines had separate units that fought with dignity, such as the 601th, 602nd companies of the army special forces and special forces of the national gendarmerie, but they did not do the weather. Please note: the fighter on the left is M-16. Only SAS was in that war, all the rest fought with FN FAL of various modifications. Some of the British were out of luck.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 11 February 2016 15: 06
      -1
      Quote: Doctor Evil
      Some of the British are not lucky.

      What exactly? In the fact that they were armed with M-16?
  10. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 11 February 2016 13: 21
    +2
    Soldiers of the 602nd company. These are not gonzo draftees.
  11. Kendji
    Kendji 11 February 2016 15: 27
    +3
    I would like to learn more about how the Argentine craftsmen made the Exocet ground-based anti-ship missile launcher, how they made it all work in general, there are questions about guidance, etc.
  12. Grishka cat
    Grishka cat 11 February 2016 20: 43
    +2
    Yes, the Argentines could not win in principle. They did not have that moral attitude, as, for example, among the Cubans. Yes, and the technique served, especially ammunition!
    1. iouris
      iouris 12 February 2016 00: 19
      0
      "Democracies don't fight."
      What are the reasons for this adventure, it is not clear. Most likely internal.
      It would be interesting to look at the results of the clash between the British and the Argentines if Chegevara came to power in Argentina.
  13. Jääkorppi
    Jääkorppi 12 February 2016 11: 01
    +1
    A very poor anti-airborne defense, if the garrison of the islands acted more actively, there was a chance to drop the landing into the sea! And yet, the destruction of transports would be of great benefit! Another hit, as in a container ship, and the operation would have curtailed, which the British themselves admitted.
  14. mine
    mine 12 February 2016 23: 06
    0
    another "bunch in a puddle of" stupid "affluor" (the recipe for his "brew" is simple - twist one source, rewrite another, pee and poop and shake it all up)

    taking into account that Sheffield was not alone;) the British could only "guess" :))))))))))))))

    about helicopters "who had contact" but "used up" (in the afftor's fantasy ") only ONE torpedo - not to mention (like other" poking around ")
    1. pRofF
      pRofF 13 February 2016 00: 23
      0
      Criticize - suggest. Offer - do.
      Neither one nor the other - if you please, keep silence in a rag, maybe you’ll go for the clever.
      1. mine
        mine 14 February 2016 19: 00
        -1
        Monsieur, if you slightly wipe your screen from saliva, you will see a lot of my articles (including on this site)

        and this is not a "shit" "EunjEra -" technical "
        1. pRofF
          pRofF 19 February 2016 13: 59
          -1
          Quote: mina
          YOU slightly wipe your screen from saliva

          Unlike you, I do not have such a bad habit. Before you learn the manners of others - it is worth to attend to their wink

          Quote: mina
          many of my articles (including on this site)

          Hmmm .. articles? Whole ... ONE article. Strong lol

          Quote: mina
          and this is not a "shit" "EunjEra -" technical "

          For a strong person who is confident in his righteousness, there is no point in insulting an opponent, including by distorting a name or a pseudonym. This is the lot of "jackals" and cowards ...

          In general, there is something on the topic? Not? Free, step march, one two.
          1. mine
            mine 19 February 2016 14: 14
            -1
            Quote: pRofF
            Unlike you, I have no such bad habit

            monkeys, your place in the cage? Or in zoos, animals are already given the Internet? :))))

            Quote: pRofF
            Hmmm .. articles? Whole ... ONE article. Strong

            Psaka! the one that I posted is NOT MY (and it is written there), but MY articles here are more than a dozen (not posted by me).
            Moreover, normal articles, and not bamagraniya YnzhYnEra-technologist

            Quote: pRofF
            This is the lot of "jackals" and cowards ... In general, is there anything on the topic? No? Free, step march, one-two

            Eunzhener - an accurate assessment of this "user"

            and you hamster, stomp in divannuyu
            to ducks
            with foam
            your place there
            :)))
            1. pRofF
              pRofF 19 February 2016 14: 34
              -1
              Quote: mina
              monkeys, your place in the cage?

              Judge again by yourself? In vain.

              Quote: mina
              but my articles here are more than a dozen (not laid out by me)

              "You are strong in speech" (c)

              Quote: mina
              and you hamster, stomp in divannuyu

              First, learn to write and speak normally, and then - will give "advice".

              In general, free. Communication with the boorish idiots does not give pleasure.
              1. mine
                mine 19 February 2016 14: 41
                -2
                Quote: pRofF
                Judge again by yourself? In vain.

                and about yourself YOU wrote
                with "pleasure chewing" the poop of this Eunjiner
                - so to speak, YOURSELF designated their hamster "level"

                Quote: pRofF
                "You are strong in speech" (c)

                Not only
                articles are a "special case" of another

                Quote: pRofF
                Learn to write and speak normally first

                normal for me is the normal level of conversation
                for YOU apparently "hamster poop and licking"
                1. pRofF
                  pRofF 19 February 2016 14: 56
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                  Quote: mina
                  and about yourself YOU wrote

                  What I wrote is one thing. Sucked from the finger of your speculation in my address - is quite another. And to reality - they have no relation

                  Quote: mina
                  with "pleasure chewing" the poop of this Eunjiner

                  In my opinion, I have already told you - I should not attribute your perverse tendencies to me. If you like chewing, that’s your right. But this does not mean that others are so addicted.

                  Quote: mina
                  SELF designated their hamster "level"

                  The opinion of a brainless and rude subject who puts labels on people - yes, of course, it is very "important" for me ...

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                  Not only

                  Yes, only the words and consists.

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                  articles are a "special case" of another

                  What? Your progressive brain disorder? Willingly believe.

                  Quote: mina
                  normal for me is the normal level of conversation

                  To be rude and insult others - is this a normal level for you? Ah, then there are no questions. But in this case - there is no place for you. You on the Censor.

                  Quote: mina
                  for YOU apparently "hamster poop and licking"

                  And again - it is not necessary to row all to your level. If you are a pervert, then this does not mean that the rest is to taste.
              2. mine
                mine 19 February 2016 15: 04
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                hamster, you before cham mouth open the level compare (and do not forget about yours;))

                mine - http://topwar.ru/75895-.html

                "YnzhynEra" - http://topwar.ru/90054-sovetskaya-ingolinovaya-torpeda-53-57.html

                he vyser in the Falklands near 53-57 left

                however "hamsters prefer dermezo"
                1. pRofF
                  pRofF 19 February 2016 15: 24
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                  Quote: mina
                  Hamster, before you open your mouth open the level compare

                  Compared - quoting from bmpd:
                  "Quite right - Maxim is a legend in near-naval circles like Obobob in near-weapon circles."
                  "In order to get acquainted with the subject, the texts of Maxim are not suitable for sure.
                  As a "dissenting opinion" they are useful, I think. "

                  Here, perhaps, all I need to know about you. Enough for the eyes.

                  Quote: mina
                  (and don't forget about yours;)

                  Of the two of us kitschlivosti and frank arrogance - only you suffer. And it just says about the level of intellectual development.

                  Quote: mina
                  his vyser on

                  Error and insult - in just three words. How did you study at school, dear? And in fact - solid "vyser" so far observed exclusively in you.

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                  however "hamsters prefer dermezo"

                  (shrugging)
                  You, I think, know better - I already understood that the products of human life activity are nice and close to you, and occupy a significant place in your life ...
                  1. mine
                    mine 19 February 2016 15: 30
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                    Quote: pRofF
                    “Quite right - Maxim is a legend in near-naval circles like Obobob in near-weapon circles.” “In order to get acquainted with the subject, the texts of Maxim are not suitable. what I need to know about you. Enough for the eyes.


                    so YOU ​​silently wrote to myself
                    YOU homchok and shit (for the same Homyachkov as YOU)
                    1. pRofF
                      pRofF 19 February 2016 15: 39
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                      so YOU ​​silently wrote to myself

                      I wrote about you. But what conclusions did the inflamed mind make of this? This is a completely different question. However, I think they are from the state of your brain - the conclusions are not far gone ...

                      YOU homchok and shit (for the same Homyachkov as YOU)

                      Did you say that by looking in the mirror? lol
                      Well, and your literacy is generally something beyond ...

                      In general, you are not recognized as our genius, offended to the whole world - you walk to school ...
                      1. mine
                        mine 19 February 2016 15: 46
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                        GOVERNOR YOU prefer it, Monsieur Dermoed
                      2. pRofF
                        pRofF 19 February 2016 15: 50
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                        "Calm down, d.u.r.a.k.!" (from)
                      3. mine
                        mine 19 February 2016 16: 03
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                        perdak cover the hamster

                        and lick the backside of stupid InzhinErov (and other hamsters) stop

                        according to the SUT (and facts) you are still nothing "Schmog";)
                      4. pRofF
                        pRofF 19 February 2016 16: 08
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                        Quote: mina
                        perdak cover the hamster

                        Unlike you, I wear pants))) I understand that this is the subject of your burning envy? lol

                        Quote: mina
                        and lick ...

                        Do not spread your erotic fantasies (or phobias) to me wink

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                        according to the SUT (and facts) you are nothing and nothing "Shmog";

                        So I asked you about the facts and the essence laughing But waited only rudeness and insults negative For more - you were not able to.
                      5. mine
                        mine 19 February 2016 16: 18
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                        So I asked you about the facts and the day

                        with your little eyes what?
                        12 February 2016 23: 06

                        oh yes - chicken brains ...
                        SORRY
                      6. pRofF
                        pRofF 19 February 2016 16: 29
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                        Quote: mina
                        with your little eyes what?

                        Little eyes - you have wink I think also narrow.
                        And I have eyes. And I never saw any reasoned criticism — critics of the case. Only some kind of salivation. No more.

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                        oh yes - chicken brains ...

                        Do not judge by yourself - and you will not be judged wink
                      7. mine
                        mine 19 February 2016 17: 03
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                        And I didn’t see any reasoned criticism - criticism of the case.

                        so YOU ​​have chicken brains

                        Vitamin from dementia drink, it can help :)
                      8. pRofF
                        pRofF 19 February 2016 17: 20
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                        Quote: mina
                        so YOU ​​have chicken brains

                        Why did you decide so?) You looked at your own - and, by analogy, you decided to equate me?) laughing

                        Quote: mina
                        Vitamin from dementia drink, it can help :)

                        And again, I suppose you said it, standing in front of a mirror lol Only in this case there is a sense in this phrase. wink
                2. mine
                  mine 19 February 2016 16: 29
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                  Quote: pRofF
                  Unlike you, I wear pants)))

                  Apparently, unlike me, YOU are shrink from behind :)))

                  Quote: pRofF
                  erotic fantasies (or phobias)

                  YOU completely showed them - one stupid "pEisatel" - to another (the same stupid)


                  Quote: pRofF
                  So I asked you about the facts and the essence

                  those. what was in the initial my message YOUR chicken brains to see / accept was not enough?
                  :)
                3. pRofF
                  pRofF 19 February 2016 17: 03
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                  Quote: mina
                  Apparently, unlike me, YOU are shrink from behind :)))

                  (shaking his head brokenly)
                  You are incorrigible. Again - error on error and error chases. And now - you are still drawn to the dovecote. Only with this - not to me. You even on the Censor - with such kooky will not accept. Kohl want to find a partner - Google to help you.

                  Quote: mina
                  YOU completely showed them - one stupid "pEisatel" - to another (the same stupid)

                  "Eh, shta?" (c) Although they would reread what was written. However, what to take from you ...
                  And about dullness - well, in general, it is funny to hear that - from a person who cannot connect three words. Yes, and writes - in the age of computers! - with mistakes...

                  Quote: mina
                  those. what was in the initial my message YOUR chicken brains to see / accept was not enough?

                  And what was the source?) There was a bare word, drooling, snot. Critics, confirmed by factual reasoning - was not.
              3. mine
                mine 19 February 2016 16: 43
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                Quote: pRofF
                i wear pants

                apparently CHRINKY BACK
                :)
        2. pRofF
          pRofF 19 February 2016 15: 52
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          Well, all the same, learn to write correctly first ... fool
        3. mine
          mine 19 February 2016 16: 00
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          Well, and still learn to write correctly first

          a lot of honor e ... us like YOU
        4. pRofF
          pRofF 19 February 2016 16: 04
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          Remarkable position laughing - to expose oneself as an illiterate idiot - and even proudly emphasize this when indicated laughing

          "-You, Vasya! Your pants are torn and your ass is visible!
          - Yes, I will tear it even more, so that you can see it better !!! You bastards !!! " lol

          (wiping away tears of laughter)
          And THIS man is telling me something else about him ... telling ...
        5. mine
          mine 19 February 2016 16: 21
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          I YOU just in YOUR same and poke
          MOSCOW

          By the way, as a "payer" http://topwar.ru/user/pRofF/news/ YOU left not far from "YnzhynEra-technologist" :))))

          laughing laughing
        6. pRofF
          pRofF 19 February 2016 16: 33
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          Quote: mina
          I YOU just in YOUR same and poke

          In your stream of consciousness - meaning is not found)
          Not only do you not know how to write competently - and also you cannot state thoughts in a coordinated manner.

          Quote: mina
          YOU are not far from "YnzhYnEra-technologist" :)))

          And I do not pretend to be writers smile For laziness and lack of time.
          And yes - about the twisting of words, I already seemed to be telling you - this is characteristic only of cowards and idiots.
        7. mine
          mine 19 February 2016 17: 57
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          Well, hamster, show off your chicken YnteLekt :)
          - further my original post, with 2 specific points
          1. taking into account that Sheffield was not alone;) the British could only "guess" :))))))))))))))

          2. about helicopters "which had contact" but "used up" (in the afftor's fantasy number) only ONE torpedo

          Can you argue?

          And yet - cowardly shniki are able to scream at women about "fear"

          well, about "my fear" :))) - very funny, continue - taking into account the fact that for his articles he could (and had) real and very serious problems
        8. pRofF
          pRofF 19 February 2016 18: 53
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          Quote: mina
          Well, hamster, show off your chicken YnteLekt :)

          Tell me, why are you talking to yourself? lol

          Quote: mina
          Can you argue?

          Firstly, where in the above sentences is the reasoned criticism? I emphasize - reasoned, in the case, without arrogance, insults and rudeness? Where is she? The answer is NO.
          Secondly, to begin with, you should state, at least in a responsible and logical way, what you would like to say - for it turns out complete and meaningless garbage.

          Quote: mina
          And yet - cowardly shniki are able to scream at women about "fear"

          Well, the only one who screams is you. wink
          I calmly stated to you that insulting an opponent - especially by mugging his name / pseudonym - is the last thing for a peasant. Here for the snotty, offended at all schoolboy - yes, that's it.

          Quote: mina
          given the fact that for his articles could (and had) real and very serious problems

          Yes Yes Yes lol An attempt to impersonate more than it actually is - detected.
          (getting popcorn)
          Go on.
  15. mine
    mine 19 February 2016 16: 30
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    I just poke YOU in YOUR
    :)
  16. mine
    mine 19 February 2016 16: 44
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    I poke YOU in YOUR shit
  17. pRofF
    pRofF 19 February 2016 17: 04
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    Quote: mina
    I poke YOU in YOUR shit

    lol for some reason, it is you - with enviable stubbornness - that you get a face into this odorous mass. Why are you so clumsy?)
  18. mine
    mine 19 February 2016 18: 36
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    it seems to you
    YOUR eyes and nose are clogged
    :)

    so, hamachyello with specifics?
    a couple of questions are indicated ...
    strain your chicken brains ..
  19. pRofF
    pRofF 19 February 2016 18: 55
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    (sighing)
    All can not quit? Eh, your energy would be yes to learn the basics of grammar ... Eh, dreams, dreams ...
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