The historic meeting of the heads of the Orthodox and Catholic churches will be held in Cuba

Historical The meeting between the Patriarch of Moscow and the Pope will take place on February 12 in Cuba. A historical meeting can be called if only because there have never been any direct official contacts between the heads of the Roman Catholic and Russian Orthodox churches in the history of two branches of Christianity. The press service of the Moscow Patriarchate reports that the meeting between Patriarch Kirill and Pope Francis will be held in a special hall of Jose Marti Airport.

According to the channel "Russia24", the main issues to be discussed by the two supreme clerics will be the issues of persecution of Christians in different regions of the world, including the Middle East, as well as problems with growing territories of instability, carrying great threats to the Christian (and not only Christian) civilization.

Following the meeting, it is expected that a joint declaration will be signed on the issues mentioned.

Preparations for the meeting between the Patriarch of Moscow and the Pope have been confirmed both in the ROC and in the Vatican Secretariat. The meeting will be held in the format of a tour of two Christian leaders in Latin America. Patriarch Kirill will be touring from 11 to 22 February. Cuba is one of the points of the pastoral visit.

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[WE ARE MAKING]

The necessary unification amid the development of radical Islam.

[Engineer]

What does radical Islam have to do with it? It is a sign for the whole world and a weapon of agitation for brainless fighters. For that matter, this is a catalytic US balamutite BV. So why is it such a union then with the Catholics? There are no religious wars, all are much more pragmatic.

[alex-s]

Sophisticated is the topic!

[Temples]

The necessary unification amid the development of radical Islam.

We are different.
There will be no association.
The meeting will be.
They got to the point that the former Pope retired.
For them it is "work" !!!
I do not understand this!
We are different.

[Pravdarm]

Quote: AGAIN

The necessary unification amid the development of radical Islam.

Unnecessary union!
With gay marriage promoters!
Crowds of Catholic priests, pedophiles (and this is only official!)
In their opinion, God can be bought off!
He sinned, confessed, "received the Holy Communion" and more!
I don’t remember watching the film — a boy came to church and tells the priest I did poorly; as a result, a man died. Do you know how the priest answered?
- Read the prayer of the Virgin Mary for the night 15 times and you will be forgiven! SO SIMPLE!!!!

They are sitting in a church, as if a favor to GOD!

NO! NO! And again NO !!! perverts perverted the church, FAITH !!!

If Orthodoxy is soiled, then there will be no good communication with Islam !!!

[Sid.74]

Quote: Pravdarm

With gay marriage promoters!

The current Catholic pontiff is against such marriages.
The first ever dad from the New World and the first in more than 1200 years dad not from Europe.

[Pravdarm]

Quote: Sid.74

The current Catholic pontiff is against such marriages.

BUT...!

[Pravdarm]

Explain to me then, how is this possible?
The chief says: You can’t!
But subordinates still do and even more!
And not even laid off and bonuses are not without!
What the hell for x ... ?????

[Sid.74]

Quote: Pravdarm

But subordinates still do and even more!
And not even laid off and bonuses are not without!

The words of the Vatican are not EU laws. Europe has lost faith in God ... just like the USA.

Moreover, in the United States there is officially a devil church. And this is drama. People themselves bring trouble.

[avva2012]

Quote: Sid.74 in the USA officially there is a devil's church.

The Church of Satan was founded at Walpurgis Night (April 30) of the 1966 of the year in San Francisco by Anton Sandor LaVey, later the author of The Satanic Bible (1969). 1966 was named by him the first year of the Satanic era. LaVey was the high priest of the Church of Satan until his death (1966 — 1997). Not only.
In the fall of 2004, the British Armed Forces officially register the first Satanist, Technical Service Sergeant Chris Cranmer, on the frigate Cumberland. And.
On June 6 on June 2014, the Bozhychi religious organization (Church of Satan) (Ukrainian. Religion community “Bozhichi”) was officially registered in the village of Pastoral, Cherkasy Region, “openly and legally, based on the Constitution of Ukraine, professing devil worship " led by S.V. Neboga ("Sorcerer of Neboga", "Agoben").
USA is not alone.

[g1v2]

Catholicism in Europe has long been bent, and the Vatican is a large museum. At the same time, there are enough Catholics in Latin America and southern, as well as in other third world countries. Here you can establish cooperation with them. But in Europe it seems necessary to send missionaries, as to the Gentiles.

[hrych]

Come on, let them meet, after which Ragnarok should begin, for there was a mutual anathema. On the other hand, both met with the Islamists and even ... rabbis and nothing, there are theological differences, and with the latter, well, as Mel Gibson's dad said ...

[avva2012]

Quote: hrych there are theological differences, and with the latter, well, as Mel Gibson's dad said ...

I don’t know who, how, but the film watched with pleasure how Catholics (Scots) Protestants love

[hrych]

When William Wallace (Years of Life: 1270-1305) fought with English women, they were also Catholics. Only Henry VIII (who beheaded the wife of Anna Boleyn, mother of Elizabeth I not to be confused with the current second) in 1534 proclaimed the independence of the English Church from the Roman Curia because it did not give the Vatican a divorce ...

[avva2012]

Quote: grunt When William Wallace (Years of Life: 1270 - 1305 gg.) Fought with English women, they were also Catholics.

Yes, I know. And in 1560, Scotland also became Protestant. But, anyway, I respect the Scots more because I was beaten and because the whiskey is tasty.

[hrych]

If the Scots did not invent whiskey ... they would conquer the whole world

[avva2012]

If the Scots did not invent whiskey ... they would conquer the whole world

Through chur, passionate were. Freemen. The world would not have been conquered, but it would certainly have been more interesting. Maybe they will once again make a referendum on separation? Last time I went broke, took the famous partridge. Did not help.

[prishelec]

Quote: hrych

When William Wallace (Years of Life: 1270-1305) fought with English women,

What are you, the Scots are "robbers"!

[PN]

Is our church impeccable? How many cases, for example, when drunk priests get into accidents while driving expensive cars. Look at the photo of how modestly the pope is dressed and how our patriarch is lined with gold! The Bible calls for humility and modesty, and the church at this time boasts of wealth. The higher the dignity, the steeper the jeep and the more luxurious the apartment. It should not be so.

[avva2012]

Quote: PN Is our church impeccable? How many cases, for example, when drunk priests get into accidents while driving expensive cars. Look at the photo of how modestly the pope is dressed and how our patriarch is lined with gold!

BEGAN!
MIKHAN, where are you ?!

[Samurai3X]

Well, denying the fact that many capital priests (meaning St. Petersburg and Moscow) in the region ruptured pointless. The farther from the centers, the purer and sincere faith in people.

[Monos]

I am very sorry that you did not meet a real POP in Moscow. Believe me, there are a lot of them!

And about the meeting ... The theme of the meeting is humanitarian, it has nothing to do with dogma. A meeting of senior church officials.

[Samurai3X]

The thing is ... I know that they are. But people remember the bad much longer than the good. You get used to the good, but the bad constantly mazolit eyes.
There was one acquaintance ... In general, there was no money at that time to pay for the funeral of the church, too, so the local priest said, they say, the turn days in 5 we can hold. Let's go to another - the same garbage. As a result, they spat and came to the Catholics. To the church of St. Anthony the Miracle Worker. There, as I understand it, a beggarly order is located.
The essence of the fable is ... The farther the priests are from the authorities, the cleaner and better they are.
Here they constantly write on forums about which Catholics are rich, banks, etc.
Do you guys think that all the restoration of Orthodox cathedrals, churches and temples are done at the expense of the state or at the expense of taxes? Cars at priests - gifts of wealthy parishioners? I would like to tell you one funny thing from a friend who works in financial monitoring, so no one will believe.
Faith replaces some of them. This is not about a specific religion. If Catholics are Orthodox filthy heretics, Muslims are generally animals and should be killed. Orthodox - Catholics, filthy heretics, sleep and see how to multiply us by zero. The attitude towards Muslims is much better, but the aggressiveness remains. Muslims have the most disgusting radicalism, but here the politicians and special services of the world empire of goodness and rainbow unicorns "helped".

[avva2012]

Quote: Samurai3X Let's go to another - the same garbage. As a result, they spat and came to the Catholics. To the church of St. Anthony the Miracle Worker.

The deceased, what kind of faith was that? And, if it doesn’t matter who the funeral service is, then why do the funeral service at all. And, about the priest, who refused because of a lack of money, I won’t believe it. Be it even Moscow, or which city else. And the rest of the reasoning in the comment, about what?

[Samurai3X]

He was a Christian.
So the pop did not refuse. He said that there are a lot of people and by no means will come out before 5 days. Not without a difference, but the relatives were in such a shock that only later became angry.

[Pomeranian]

Quote: Samurai3X

In general, there was no money at that time to pay for the funeral even for the church, so the local priest said that they could spend a turn and days through 5.

Story

[Pravdarm]

Quote: PN

Look at the photo of how modestly dressed dad

They are awfully poor! Like your eyes, only "poor" clothes are visible!
And in the know? what
The papal state, a dwarf state in size (0,44 square kilometers hidden behind the Vatican wall, in the western region of Rome, on the right bank of the Tiber, the population is about two thousand people, although Wikipedia gives 832 people), is titanium by international influence. The Vatican became an independent state on June 7, 1929, in accordance with the Lateran agreements concluded by Pope Pius XI with the Italian government, led by Benito Mussolini. The state has its own newspaper, radio and televisionown flag. True, there are no cops of their own. The Vatican also has its own army (Swiss guards), its own prison.
The Vatican has almost 1,5 billion Catholics under its rule. The Vatican's gigantic wealth consists of the investments of the banks of Rothschild, Britain and the USA.
Money laundering
The sole owner of the bank is the representative of St. Peter on Earth - Pope. Although the activities of the bank are very far from sacred affairs. This is a kind of pantry for the entire Roman Catholic Church. Countless dioceses, councils, church organizations and foundations have accounts here. But bank customers are not only different institutions. The accounts in this bank are used by the Italian mafia for money laundering. Corrupt German politicians also use the services of the Vatican Bank when they want to be sure that no tax or financial institution can get to their money. Thousands of super-rich Germans (and not only Germans) hide their millions in various financial institutions in certain countries, where they can be sure of their safety. After recent revelations, for example, in Switzerland or Liechtenstein, many themselves confessed to avoid prosecution for tax crimes in Germany. But these millionaires were either very cunning, or they did not have the necessary information. If someone wants to be absolutely sure that the tax inspectors will never bother him, he must entrust his not-so-pure millions to one very silent Roman lady ... And although in November last year the Vatican signed a money laundering agreement with the European Union, this the document should not bother capital owners of dubious origin - politicians, economists, and others. The contract deals only with minor cosmetic measures.

More information at http://voprosik.net/vatikan-kak-mezhdunarodnyj-oligarx/ © QUESTION

[Pravdarm]

A bank within a church state is legal in general. autonomous. Whatever the Vatican signs, important obligations with respect to the EU, in principle, it remains just an official paper, because everything that the Vatican Bank does is a completely different issue, and from a legal point of view, these are two fundamentally different things! Speeches by Pope Benedict XVI against money laundering are worthy of respect - he zealously informed the public about this. But the mafia, some politicians and other bank customers caress the rumor of the word that the Vatican Bank denies the presence of "dirty" money in its vaults. The Vatican Bank maintains accounts and funds that do not actually exist. The Bank provides them to politicians representing parties whose names contain the word "Christian." Among them, for example, are public figures who in Germany diligently denounce citizens who illegally shelter their savings abroad. Democracy in Germany has several "black holes" that ordinary citizens know nothing about. The Vatican Bank is one of them, and incredibly effective. Religiosity and morality in practice The Bank of the Vatican cannot be controlled or closed. Officially, it is a private and at the same time very devout institution. But it’s strange that the bank’s employees and customers have nothing to do with true Christian religiosity and morality, which is taught in the basics of theology. Very clearly and metaphorically simple bank activities can be described as follows. Imagine the richest billionaire in the world, who (hypothetically) has safes with their own billions hidden in different places. And none of them reports a billionaire. Traveling around the world, he transfers money from one safe to another without any control and any taxes, while his good friends can also hide his considerable accumulations from him, if necessary, again without any outside control. The Vatican Bank carefully and carefully selects those who will be offered a very profitable cooperation. They must not only entrust their millions or billions to the bank, they must also be very pious. In terms of The Vatican’s internal code of ethics, which is completely different from the external code, which the pope and his closest associates demand from their parishioners. And if the flocks abide by this code, she is promised eternal bliss in heaven. P / S. Once Pope Leo XIII decided to open Vatican archives for "scientists and people of different professions", but quickly changed his mind, leaving the famous saying to the heirs: "History is a huge complex of events and processes. Many would like to change it or see it in their own way. Therefore, discovering new things about the past is dangerous and even harmful." Apparently, proceeding from this logic, not a single Pope exposed and criticized (in secular language) any of his predecessors.

More information at http://voprosik.net/vatikan-kak-mezhdunarodnyj-oligarx/ © QUESTION

[avva2012]

Quote: avva2012
Look at the photo of how modestly dressed dad

Pravdarm Okst where, I wrote like that. You, however, imagined something.

[Pravdarm]

Guilty, corrected! This is PN. Accidentally!

[avva2012]

Thank you And then, about the modesty of the Pope, this is a bust.

[Pravdarm]

In what sense is "overkill"? What is it?

[avva2012]

In what sense is "overkill"? What is it?

Yes, you have described everything perfectly. Plus the Order of the Jesuits, that intelligence, the KGB would be envious. And not only them.

[Pravdarm]

Oh, got it! Something I personally accepted, but you are not talking about me!
By the way

At the end of the branch it is not clear what is happening.

Indeed, for the first time I see this! The machinations of the Vatican antichrist. (And not only )

[avva2012]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich oh in vain you hinted about the Russian Orthodox Church on this site, the rules are strict, you can’t hurt the feelings of believers, you can only atheists and agnostics spread rot. 21 century, adults ...

Yes, okay, you, Andrey Yuryevich. Believe what you want or don't believe at all. If only the person was good. I just don't like some believers. Those who are "blessings of the Church", etc., that's where the stinking ulcer is.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: avva2012

Yes, okay, you, Andrey Yuryevich. Believe in what you want or not believe at all. If only the person was good.

say the truth!

[avva2012]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich By the way, I can deceive that this note will disappear very soon, as soon as people begin to express their attitude to the church, the article is immediately deleted.

Ah, the mess has already begun. At the end of the branch it is not clear what is happening.

[Pomeranian]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

atheists yes agnostics spread rot

But who spread rot you?

[PN]

Feelings of believers and no one hurts. And think deeper, what does a person believe in God or the ROC? I think the answer is obvious, despite the fact that the Russian Orthodox Church positions itself as a conductor between man and God. ;-)

[Monos]

Feelings of believers and no one hurts. And think deeper, what does a person believe in God or the ROC? I think the answer is obvious, despite the fact that the Russian Orthodox Church positions itself as a conductor between man and God.

The Russian Orthodox Church has never positioned itself as an intermediary. Priests are servants of God. You can go to the Temple, you can not go - they will still serve. Simply, when you do not go to the Temple, you deprive yourself of the opportunity to participate in the sacraments of the Church. It is important for you or not to decide for yourself.

[Monos]

but to me as a servant of the devil another penalty point will fly!

In vain you flaunt. How not to regret it. There were, you know, precedents. I wish you to avoid this.

[GRAY]

Quote: PN

how modestly the pope is dressed and how our patriarch is lined with gold!

The pope has his own state, albeit a dwarf one - he is so good.

[GRAY]

Quote: PN

It should not be so.

Everyone should live in TV boxes and wear chains.

[assam4]

Is our church impeccable? How many cases, for example, when drunk priests get into accidents while driving expensive cars. Look at the photo of how modestly the pope is dressed and how our patriarch is lined with gold! The Bible calls for humility and modesty, and the church at this time boasts of wealth. The higher the dignity, the steeper the jeep and the more luxurious the apartment. Shouldn't be like that

So the patriarch has already spoken on this subject:

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Constant talk about the excess wealth of the Russian Orthodox Church, priests and their cars lead a person away from faith, salvation and the “cross of the Lord,” said Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill at the consecration ceremony of the new Moscow church. The words of the head of the Russian Orthodox Church on Sunday, RIA Novosti.

[Heimdall47]

I don’t remember watching the film — a boy came to church and tells the priest I did poorly; as a result, a man died.

You still try to study the life of the church on cartoons

[makarick]

Do you think that in other religions the clergy are much better? Do not be naive or a fanatic.

[Arh]

Well, friendship and understanding of churches are healthy !!!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Arh

That's because is healthy friendship and understanding of churches !!!

Yes, not healthy ... (a doctor friend said)

[Arh]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Quote: Arh

That's because is healthy friendship and understanding of churches !!!

Yes, not healthy ... (a doctor friend said)

Clearly healthy it is healthy, but not healthy at the floor and without a doctor it is clear))))))

[sisa29]

This is not a difficult topic. This topic is not at all from our site !! And here Military Review and the meeting of two church leaders

[Remy_Argo]

Quote: alex-s

Sophisticated is the topic!

If only not in Slytherin. Only not in Slytherin.

[SSR]

Quote: Remy_Argo

Quote: alex-s

Sophisticated is the topic!

If only not in Slytherin. Only not in Slytherin.

ha ha ha! He laughed))) Thank you. )))

[Lanista]

For that matter, this is a catalytic US balamutite BV.

US elites are not Catholic, but Protestant. They are also called WASP - white anglo-saxon protestants. Catholics in the United States are immigrants from Latin America, as well as descendants of immigrants from Ireland, Italy and Poland.

[avva2012]

Quote: Lanista US elites are not Catholic, but Protestant. They are also called WASP - white anglo-saxon protestants.
Now, this is evil !. And, in fact, they are idolaters. Their God is Mammon!

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

The United States is not Catholic, but Protestant and Jewish.

[avva2012]

Quote: Uncle Vasya Sayapin The United States is not Catholic, but Protestant and Jewish.

The Irish are Catholics, and they are present in the elite. If not mistaken, the Kennedy clan as well. But, if we talk about the Americans, then formal worship no longer matters. Although, not the most ugly president was one of them.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: avva2012

Although, not the most ugly president was one of them.

The Fed would not have touched, would have lived longer ...

[Tusv]

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin

The United States is not Catholic, but Protestant and Jewish.

The United States believes in disbelief in the form of God. As the Roman legionnaire, capturing Jerusalem, exclaimed - is this your god? There is nothing

[2s1122]

So in the USA, it’s mostly Baptists and other sects :-)

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: 2s1122

So in the USA, it’s mostly Baptists and other sects :-)

like Mavrodi ... and yes, solid sectarians ...

[Samurai3X]

USA??? Catholic ??? We don’t study history at all?

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Engineer

For that matter, this is a catalytic US balamutite BV.

Protestant USA

[Pirogov]

For that matter, this is a catalytic US balamutite BV ....................................... .......................................
.................... the United States is more Protestant, no one in the world has destroyed as many people as Protestants! Catholics are just angels in the flesh compared to Protestants!

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Quote: Engineer

What does radical Islam have to do with it? It is a sign for the whole world and a weapon of agitation for brainless fighters. For that matter, this is a catalytic US balamutite BV. So why is it such a union then with the Catholics? There are no religious wars, all are much more pragmatic.

The main religion in the USA is Protestants. There are Catholics, but not very many. There is such a definition of the governing and steering country of the American - BAP (white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant).

[Maksus]

The United States has never been Catholic, most Christians in the states are Protestants. Catholics are South America. But there is radical Islam; one does not have to pretend that it is not. Take even Saudi Arabia - there is nowhere more radical.

[avva2012]

Quote: Maksus most Christians in the states are Protestants.
But there is radical Islam; one does not have to pretend that it does not exist.

Yes, what are they, Christians. Protestantism unites, precisely with radical Islam, the fact that they pay attention to the external side of religion. Some are sure that since there were no cowards under the prophet, that means you can also cut your head for that. Others are sure that since you are rich, then God loves you. Of course, if not, then alas. By and large, that those others are atheists. They do not understand that the deepest meaning of faith, however, is different.

[Pereira]

Cuban priests are cool. The pope is weeping for not being taken.

[Sid.74]

They decided to hold a meeting on a neutral territory, amusing ... so that there were no squeaks from the EU or the United States.

And in the meantime ... in Moscow ... they made a decision. And perhaps fateful for the whole BV.

Representation of Syrian Kurdistan to open in Moscow

[Vitaly Anisimov]

I am sure that the howling and humiliation of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian Orthodox will begin again? You can start the devils already!

[avva2012]

Quote MIHAN I am sure that the howling and humiliation of the Russian Orthodox Church will begin again? You can start the devils already!

MIKHAN, well, where the hell on the VO site? If, only in a binge.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: avva2012

MIKHAN, well, where the hell on the VO site? If, only in a binge.

I don’t know how, but Meehan has their own.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: avva2012

Quote MIHAN I am sure that the howling and humiliation of the Russian Orthodox Church will begin again? You can start the devils already!

MIKHAN, well, where the hell on the VO site? If, only in a binge.

Read further comments .... and see everything! (your joke is stupid and inappropriate)

[avva2012]

Quote MIHAN Read further comments .... and see everything! (your joke is stupid and inappropriate)

As one person said, "all the stupidest things have always been done with serious faces" (or something like that). And, people, in the majority, simply do not believe. What, pour them holy water for that? Where is your Christian tolerance? Ah, those who out of spite writes or for money, those also do not belong to hell. They are miserable.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: avva2012

Quote MIHAN Read further comments .... and see everything! (your joke is stupid and inappropriate)

As one person said, "all the stupidest things have always been done with serious faces" (or something like that). And, people, in the majority, simply do not believe. What, pour them holy water for that? Where is your Christian tolerance? Ah, those who out of spite writes or for money, those also do not belong to hell. They are miserable.

Yes, you went ... Damn golem! You start to get bastard bastard .. well, well

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: avva2012

MIKHAN I twist myself, can it help?

You have it clearly twisted ... dude! Stop sniffing coke .. bastard!

[Slobber]

MIKHAN, the transition to personal insults without argument is a sign of a narrow-minded person. You also consider yourself a patriot.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: razgildyay

MIKHAN, the transition to personal insults without argument is a sign of a narrow-minded person. You also consider yourself a patriot.

You again ? May I manage without yours, please? Well, I don’t want to be rude, honestly! How did you all get me ....

[Slobber]

howl and humiliation of the Russian Orthodox Church and Russian Orthodox

So do not let yourself be offended, because you see, they are being hurt on the forum. For example, Daul’s unloved one - whatever one may say, but in Islamic worship a lot of people openly support him. Yes, yes, and in Chechnya too.
So build your Orthodox State of Russia and the CIS and nobody will offend you.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: razgildyay

howl and humiliation of the Russian Orthodox Church and Russian Orthodox

So do not let yourself be offended, because you see, they are being hurt on the forum. For example, Daul’s unloved one - whatever one may say, but in Islamic worship a lot of people openly support him. Yes, yes, and in Chechnya too.
So build your Orthodox State of Russia and the CIS and nobody will offend you.

in short ... the liberalist is over!
Shoot nafig! I read such mudazvonov .. And more than once!

[Winter cherry]

Only the Popes are baptized to God, and they pray the devil. It always has been.

[avva2012]

MEMORANDUM FOR THE CREATION OF “A NEW WORLD RELIGION” SIGNED IN STRASBOURG BETWEEN GLOBAL JUDO-SATANISTS AND TRADITORS OF ORTHODOXY FROM GREECE, RUSSIA, etc.
http://ajbolit444.livejournal.com/1341558.html?thread=6682486
on the part of the Russian Orthodox Church, the document was signed by Archbishop Hilarion ...

On the "Censor" gave a link?

[avva2012]

Quote: Sveles One goal - to destroy the Orthodox Church, to turn people into cattle.

Destroy the Orthodox Church, only we can. If we turn into cattle. With God's help, I think this will not happen. And so, it is more like conspiracy thesis.

[RUSS]

Quote: Sveles

http://communitarian.ru/publikacii/tserkovnaya_analitika/memorandum_o_sozdanii_n

ovoy_mirovoy_religii_podpisannyy_v_strasburge_mezhdu_globalnymi_iudo-satanistami

_i_predatelyami_pravoslaviya_iz_grecii_08112015 /

Anyway, you drive.

[GRAY]

Quote: Sveles

MEMORANDUM FOR THE CREATION OF “A NEW WORLD RELIGION” SIGNED IN STRASBOURG BETWEEN GLOBAL JUDO-SATANISTS

I recommend that you call the Judeo-Satanists Department and talk about it, call 8 [phone], from 9-30 to 16-30 (Moscow time) on business days.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Of course, I am not a big specialist for rabbis, but the man on the right is more like a Catholic priest than a rabbi. And you can’t confuse our priest with anyone :)

[RUSS]

Quote: Sveles

ATTENTION !!! IMPORTANT !!! CHANGE !!!

You drive.

[Bayun]

Ecumenism is coming. We are waiting for sodomite priests, same-sex marriages and other "fun" in Russia.

[Victor62ru]

Yes, we live in an interesting time. It certainly hasn’t happened yet.

[avva2012]

It is high time to move away from the Middle Ages in relations between Orthodox and Catholics. The difference is distinguished only by theologians. And ISIS is not the worst. There it is clear, bearded, they are not ours. Yes, and with knives. The so-called liberal values ​​of the West, its nihilism, unbelief are much worse. These are dressed in white clothes, talking about freedom. The freedom to be a pervert, the freedom to hate your parents, the country. IMHO. There is only one freedom - the freedom of conscience, i.e., Faith. May God bless the heads of Christianity!

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

The difference is that they are different organizations with their own goals. This is all politics. But I personally like Catholics more than Protestants.

[avva2012]

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin But I personally like Catholics more than Protestants.

I agree. And, most importantly, both Orthodox and Catholics agree on this issue (about Protestants). Schismatics are for them.

[Normal ok]

Quote: avva2012

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin But I personally like Catholics more than Protestants.

I agree. And, most importantly, both Orthodox and Catholics agree on this issue (about Protestants). Schismatics are for them.

You should at least read something on the topic before writing such nonsense. I mean, they read something more or less serious. And not some kind of agitation. After the split of the Church into Eastern (Orthodox) and Western (Roman Catholic), both churches cursed each other (officially the anathema was lifted only in 1965). And the relationship all this time was appropriate, right up to the massacres. In the 16th century, the Reformation took place in the Roman Church. Some priests opposed the departure from the Bible and the abuse of the clergy. As a result, two new branches of Christianity appeared: Lutherans and Reformats (they are also Presbyterians, they are Huguenots - the name depended on the country) - in general, these are classical Protestants (later many branches appeared). So these new churches were much closer to Orthodoxy than Catholics. It is interesting that the Pope cursed Protestants (in the middle of the 20th century the anathema was lifted, and the Pope recently repented for persecution), BUT the Orthodox Church never protested. It got to the point that during the time of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, when Catholics terrorized all dissidents in the territory of present-day western and central Ukraine, priests of the Orthodox and Reformed churches concluded an informal alliance to assert their rights.
In the Orthodox Church there is a clear division of Christians into Orthodox and Orthodox. Non-Orthodox are Catholics and Protestants: Lutherans, Reforms, Presbyterians, Anglicans and it seems the Baptists (not sure). Sects that are not considered Christians at all are identified separately. Moreover, by the Holy Synod of the Orthodox Church in 1858, the rite of conversion of the heterodox to Orthodoxy was determined. So, if a priest from these Protestant churches converted to Orthodoxy, he would still remain a priest !!!
Problems in relations between the Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate (other Orthodox patriarchs have no such problems) and Protestants, appeared only in recent history. This happened during the Soviet era when the Russian Orthodox Church actually agreed to serve the interests of the atheist government and most Protestants refused. Although at the official international level, the Russian Orthodox Church contacted Protestants in the World Council of Churches.
Bottom line: the gap between the RCC and Orthodoxy is much larger than between the Orthodox and Protestants. Further, Protestants were never schismatic for Orthodoxy, but Catholics for Orthodoxy were schismatic until 1965. And for Catholics, for almost 50 years, Protestants are not schismatic. Moreover, due to the fact that the RCC - has a single world center (Rome), and the Protestants are quite divided, politically the RCC is a much more dangerous organization, which they have demonstrated over the past 1000 years.

[avva2012]

Quote: Normal ok This happened during the Soviet era when the Russian Orthodox Church actually agreed to serve the interests of the atheist government and most Protestants refused. Although at the official international level, the Russian Orthodox Church contacted Protestants in the World Council of Churches.

Well, firstly, it’s not clear, but what immediately is nonsense? Come with good arguments. Secondly, thirdly, etc.
The Church has always "served" the authorities. Do you think the Protestants were in opposition to Henry the 8th? At the expense of Soviet power, read what the hierarchs wrote in "modern history", Why and for what, they recognized the power of the Soviets. I, I think, were not interested, because of the ideological rejection of everything Soviet? In my opinion, you can find (pull out of context) any evidence that you are right. Therefore, I will not approach much from the other side. And what the Protestants don't have? Protestants have no apostolic succession, no saints, no fasting, no confession, repentance, and no sacrament, no icons and spiritual art, no monasticism and monasteries. Maybe, to whom it seems, this is all superfluous, I don’t. As for the schismatics of the Protestants, they are unambiguously considered those of the Protestants who do not accept the icon. And, another point that does not apply directly to religion. The political struggle of East and West, it is also a struggle of churches. It was more fierce with the Catholics. Hence the hatred and distrust. If we take the essence of the doctrine itself, then the difference between the Orthodox and Catholics is still less than with the Protestants.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: avva2012

It is high time to move away from the Middle Ages in relations between Orthodox and Catholics.

maybe just move away?

[avva2012]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich maybe just move away?

Can believers decide for themselves?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: avva2012

Can believers decide for themselves?

God knows ... maybe they decide ...

[avva2012]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich God knows ... maybe they decide ...

THIS is not that believer. Or rather not there. Or not from there. In short, he only "believes and trembles." Therefore, he cannot know.
Ah, I personally hope so.

[NyeMoNik70]

"Only theologians can tell the difference." Fear God! We are so different that white and black are one color compared to us. All that is good for us is death. Not to be confused with our local Catholics! The bearded and I are closer, we ourselves were like that before Nikon's reform, "true Christians."

[avva2012]

"Quote: NyeMoNik70 Only theologians can tell the difference. "Fear God!

For Catholics, the Symbol of Faith was changed (In Catholicism, the Holy Spirit emanates from God the Father and from God the Son, in Orthodoxy only from God the Father). And it's all!
Everything else, that is, celibacy, "the Pope, God's vicar on earth", the age of communion, and from the heels of other differences, is not essential! The rest is politics.

[Michael67]

The topic is complicated. No questions. There is an understanding that the Vatican has been trying for centuries to get rid of Orthodoxy by all available methods. It would be nice if Patriarch Kirill asked Pope Francis - where and why, during the time of Peter the Great, the Vatican emissaries took carts and books of the times from monasteries by convoys and destroyed them? And what has changed since then?

[Pissarro]

Can I link to fierce nonsense about the convoys of emissaries of the Vatican, exporting property from Orthodox monasteries with the consent of Peter the Great? Fomenko miscalculated or even some sort of charlatan?

[Pomeranian]

Quote: Pissarro

Fomenko miscalculated or even some sort of charlatan?

That is, the Uniates in Ukraine did not do anything .... Yeah.

[Pissarro]

what does the Ukrainian Uniates have to do with Peter the Great? The lands inhabited by the Uniates to the empire annexed Catherine and the Uniates returned to Orthodoxy on these lands. They remained only in Austrian Galicia, Stalin dispersed them there. They crawled out again after perestroika

[Pomeranian]

Quote: Pissarro

The lands inhabited by Uniates to the empire were joined by Catherine

That is, before that, they lived soul to soul with the ROC?

[pavelty]

It’s interesting of course, but I don’t think it can lead to anything concrete ... too long and strong contradictions, I generally have little idea what they can discuss

[Pomeranian]

Quote: pavlentiy

too long and strong contradictions

It is true that they cannot even agree with the ROCC and DOC, but even more so with the Catholics.

[gramatey]

The title is not entirely incorrect. The head of the Orthodox Church is Jesus Christ. Patriarch Kirill - Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church.
But the news is very unexpected and important.

[Tusv]

Why the Pope wears a tiara and Why the Patriarch of All Russia wears a warrior helmet covered in brocade. The patriarch protects. These are not my words, but my friend after talking with Alexy II. May God agree. Obama's godless mess fed up

[LÄRZ]

Following the meeting, it is expected that a joint declaration will be signed on the issues mentioned.

It means that the preparations have already begun quite a while. Of course, you need to meet and talk "eye to eye". Patriarch Kirill knows better.

[Andrey Peter]

Quote: alex-s

Sophisticated is the topic!

That's right. Cubans themselves are mostly Catholics, but there are other religions there. Although the church itself is separated from the state. Well, they will travel to warm places, discuss and disperse. Unfortunately {and maybe better} now religious leaders do not influence state policy.
Well, in general, take a break from their homes x places

[Pomeranian]

Honestly, as a Russian Orthodox person, this visit causes some caution. Some sixth sense suggests that all this is no accident.

[Winter cherry]

Quote: avva2012

It is high time to move away from the Middle Ages in relations between Orthodox and Catholics. The difference is distinguished only by theologians. And ISIS is not the worst. There it is clear, bearded, they are not ours. Yes, and with knives. The so-called liberal values ​​of the West, its nihilism, unbelief are much worse. These are dressed in white clothes, talking about freedom. The freedom to be a pervert, the freedom to hate your parents, the country. IMHO. There is only one freedom - the freedom of conscience, i.e., Faith. May God bless the heads of Christianity!

Read the Apocalypse. It says all Churches will unite to worship the Antichrist.

[avva2012]

[Quote] Quote: Winter Cherry Read the Apocalypse. It says all the churches will unite to worship the Antichrist.