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Nazarbayev abolished "Prussian" step in Kazakhstani army

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Nursultan Nazarbayev signed a decree on the abolition of the combat step in the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan and the introduction of a different pace of passage of troops, reports Lenta.ru report.


Archival photo.

“The following changes were made to the drill regulations: now the movement in steps is carried out with the pace of 95-105 steps per minute, the step length is set to 60-70 centimeters. At the same time, the foot should be lifted to 10-15 centimeters from the ground, the sock should be lifted freely, without pulling, ”the publication says with reference to the decree.

In 2008, the Estonians abandoned the combat step taken in the Russian and Soviet armies. The servicemen returned to the step they used before the World War 2. Now they don’t need to “print a step and pull a sock” - it’s enough to fall in time and keep balance.

However, in many post-Soviet republics, the pace of the pitch remains the same - 110-120 steps per minute, while the foot rises to 15-20 cm, and the step length is 70-80 cm.
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  1. djqnbdjqnb
    djqnbdjqnb 5 February 2016 09: 12
    -104 qualifying.
    And correctly canceled, and we need. And then we entered this Prussian step in 39, and we continue to walk by inertia.
    1. SSR
      SSR 5 February 2016 09: 20
      75
      Quote: djqnbdjqnb
      And correctly canceled, and we need. And then we entered this Prussian step in 39, and we continue to walk by inertia.

      Well, don’t tell))) if you look at the same Parade or the change of the Guard in the Alexander Garden, then it’s breathtaking, when we caught the courage we had the smell of burning rubber behind us))))
      Maybe you want a step that would sort out the Haxi Hindi packs like haha? IMHA. Nazarbayev simplified and took a walking step, it is a pity that the article says nothing about hands.
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      2. Temples
        Temples 5 February 2016 09: 20
        50
        Well, Kazakhs are not Russian after all.
        How else to show your independence?
        I can’t fix it laughing
        And here bang is the solution -
        marching is not like the Russians !!!
        Well done, the main Kazakh!
        Especially the Estonians even refused in 2008, and the Kazakhs pulled their noses to the last! wassat
        Now how trampled by the dying ... uh !!!
        1. Bath
          Bath 5 February 2016 09: 24
          23
          Yes, this is of course the first priority in the state is the next step on the road to independence and Kazakhstan (from sea to sea)) laughing
          1. Pravdarm
            Pravdarm 5 February 2016 09: 49
            40
            The coolest are the creeping Greeks
            1. aleks 62 next
              aleks 62 next 5 February 2016 09: 52
              +4
              .... The coolest are the Greeks ...

              ... The coolest Africans .... Something between carnival dances and Indian combatant .... laughing
              1. Mahmut
                Mahmut 5 February 2016 10: 30
                -62 qualifying.
                What a tragedy. How now Kazakhstan will interact in joint military exercises with the Russian army. The pace of the step is not the same, the sock does not stretch - this is the direct path to defeat.

                It is probably pleasant for couch patriots to observe from the side how the guard of honor dances out there. I had a friend, he served in the regiment named after Dzerzhinsky. So he told how his bones began to rot from many hours of training. He was warned that if he didn’t take care of himself, they would cut off in five years. Well, he didn’t let his legs cut, but just drowned. There was a beautiful little devil, any quadrille on the move. And how many such young handsome guys because of the Prussian step crippled because of the Kremlin Ponte. There will be enough health for two years, and what will happen to a person after that - nobody cares.
                1. Tambov Wolf
                  Tambov Wolf 5 February 2016 10: 53
                  40
                  It seems to be a "marshal", but you keep telling Uncle Ripus's tales. Have your friend accidentally cut off his scrotum? Previously, they served in the Kremlin for three years and went as a combatant for three years and no one fell off. You, tovarisch, where? You might think from some downtrodden aul, or you are from the "liberals", who otmazatsya from the army. Then everything is clear.
                  1. Ami du peuple
                    Ami du peuple 5 February 2016 11: 13
                    24
                    Quote: Mahmut
                    I had a friend, he served in the regiment named after Dzerzhinsky urgently

                    The Dzerzhinsky Regiment, yeah. For your information, there is no such unit in the RF Armed Forces, and there was no such unit in the Soviet Army either. There is OMSDON them. Dzerzhinsky Interior Ministry. A whole division, do you understand? But they are far from the combatant shagistiki - an elite combat unit.
                    Quote: Mahmut
                    .. from hours of training, the bones began to rot. He was warned that if he didn’t take care of himself, they would cut off in five years. Well, he didn’t let himself cut his legs, but just drowned

                    Your comrade seems to have drowned himself due to alcoholic delirium, that is, delirium tremens. For such fantasies can only occur to a person familiar with the "green devils"
                    Quote: Tambov Wolf
                    You might think from some clogged aul appeared or are you from the "liberals", who got rid of the army

                    Nick "Mahmut" kakbe hints. wink Although, maybe the "comrade from the aul" served honestly in the construction battalion. Drill training there, yes, on top smile
                    1. PSih2097
                      PSih2097 5 February 2016 12: 57
                      -5
                      Quote: Ami du peuple
                      Dzerzhinsky regiment ", yeah. For your information, there is no such unit in the RF Armed Forces, and there was no such unit in the Soviet Army either. There is an OMSDON named after Dzerzhinsky MVD. part.

                      it was the unofficial name of the Kremlin regiment because of its membership in the committee.
                      1. Ami du peuple
                        Ami du peuple 5 February 2016 13: 13
                        +9
                        Quote: PSih2097
                        it was the unofficial name of the Kremlin regiment because of its membership in the committee.

                        Have you just come up with? Always been Separate Kremlin regiment and company of the guard of honor in its composition. I honestly have not heard of any other names for this military unit. Even from those who served in it in Soviet times, when the regiment really belonged to the KGB.
                      2. pv1005
                        pv1005 5 February 2016 14: 24
                        +1
                        Quote: Ami du peuple
                        Quote: PSih2097
                        it was the unofficial name of the Kremlin regiment because of its membership in the committee.

                        Have you just come up with? Always been Separate Kremlin regiment and company of the guard of honor in its composition. I honestly have not heard of any other names for this military unit. Even from those who served in it in Soviet times, when the regiment really belonged to the KGB.

                        I will slightly correct you dear in the Kremlin was the RSK-company of the special guard that "went to the Mausoleum." The company of the guard of honor belonged to the Commandant regiment in Lefortovo, they walked in a solemn march when meeting delegations at the airport and set up a post at the grave of the unknown soldier on May 9 and November 7.
                      3. Mahmut
                        Mahmut 5 February 2016 18: 35
                        -12 qualifying.
                        Quote: Mahmut
                        I had a friend, he served in the regiment named after Dzerzhinsky urgently

                        The Dzerzhinsky Regiment, yeah. For your information, there is no such unit in the RF Armed Forces, and there was no such unit in the Soviet Army either. There is OMSDON them. Dzerzhinsky Interior Ministry. A whole division, do you understand? But they are far from the combatant shagistiki - an elite combat unit.
                        Quote: Mahmut
                        .. from hours of training, the bones began to rot. He was warned that if he didn’t take care of himself, they would cut off in five years. Well, he didn’t let himself cut his legs, but just drowned

                        Your comrade seems to have drowned himself due to alcoholic delirium, that is, delirium tremens. For such fantasies can only occur to a person familiar with the "green devils"
                        Quote: Tambov Wolf
                        You might think from some downtrodden aul, or you are from the "liberals" who got rid of the army

                        Nick "Mahmut" kakbe hints. wink Although, maybe the "comrade from the aul" served honestly in the construction battalion. Drill training there, yes, on top smile


                        I fully admit that, because of your softer suspiciousness, you did not believe me. A regiment, a division, a company, it makes no difference — I didn’t serve there, I couldn’t make inquiries and could confuse or forget (34 years have passed). But this story is definitely not for gnawing and its rotten gut was not worth shining like that, 3,14 you are our door.
                      4. Ami du peuple
                        Ami du peuple 5 February 2016 22: 32
                        +6
                        Quote: Mahmut
                        But this story is definitely not for gnawing and its rotten gut was not worth it to shine, 3,14 you are our door

                        Sorry, but getting involved in polemics with not quite adequate personalities, such as you, is not in my rules. I leave the words about "rotten gut" on your conscience.
                        I will add: You look stupid, retelling blatant nonsense about "rotting bones". And in the future, persisting, continuing to pass off nonsense as the truth. Your venerable age and references to forgetfulness are not an excuse for this, unless, of course, you have been diagnosed with senile dementia.
                      5. Kasym
                        Kasym 6 February 2016 04: 24
                        +3
                        Honestly, I do not know what all this means and how it will look. But for me personally, the combatant step is HONOR, DISCIPLINE and FELLOWSHIP.
                        HONOR, because I go with EQUAL, who is ready to give his life in battle for me, and I mine for him.
                        DISCIPLINE, because only it allows you to defeat a large enemy. The order of the COMMANDER is HOLY, as the covenant of the father; violation of which leads to shame on you and your family, forgetting your name. And execution in the most difficult and unimaginable conditions, which resulted in death, is an honor that descendants will not forget.
                        BROTHERHOOD. There is no greater understanding for our man than GENERAL VALUES. For them, our peoples and people laid their lives. For us, the collective, community means more than personal well-being. For us, personal, business is not the main thing. People, Country mean more. Such education did not let perish our peoples and tribes. In the ranks of the feeling that we are all BROTHERS, who are mountain after each other, and fear is not known to us - let everyone see hi
                        It may be pretentious, but this is our mentality (Soviet), which beats any "exclusivity".
              2. pv1005
                pv1005 5 February 2016 13: 55
                +3
                Quote: PSih2097
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Dzerzhinsky regiment ", yeah. For your information, there is no such unit in the RF Armed Forces, and there was no such unit in the Soviet Army either. There is an OMSDON named after Dzerzhinsky MVD. part.

                it was the unofficial name of the Kremlin regiment because of its membership in the committee.

                What???? Where did you get this crap from? request
                OMSDON - a separate motorized rifle division for special purposes named after F.E. Dzerzhinsky, Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Location of the city of Balashikha, Moscow Region
                OOORKKP - a separate order of the October Revolution, the Red Banner Kremlin Regiment, 9th Directorate of the KGB of the USSR, was transformed into the Presidential Regiment of the Federal Security Service. Location Moscow Kremlin, Arsenal. hi
              3. Bruss
                Bruss 5 February 2016 15: 54
                -1
                In the arsenal there is only one battalion of this regiment, the rest in another place!
              4. pv1005
                pv1005 5 February 2016 17: 12
                +1
                Quote: bruss
                In the arsenal there is only one battalion of this regiment, the rest in another place!

                Let me know in which? Or is it a top secret for you? And yes, how many battalions are there in the regiment?
              5. Ami du peuple
                Ami du peuple 5 February 2016 18: 17
                0
                Quote: pv1005
                Let me know in which?

                In the dungeons of the Lubyanka! smile
                Quote: pv1005
                ..in the Kremlin was RSK-special guard company who "went to the Mausoleum"

                It was this division that I had in mind. Post number 1 at the Mausoleum and the letters "GB" on cornflower-blue shoulder straps.
              6. pv1005
                pv1005 5 February 2016 18: 27
                0
                Quote: Ami du peuple

                Post number 1 at the Mausoleum and the letters "GB" on cornflower-blue shoulder straps.

                Here, here are 10 sentries and 2 breeders as part of the GK-1.
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 6 February 2016 16: 58
      +3
      Elemental Envy
  2. Dewa1s
    Dewa1s 5 February 2016 12: 23
    +4
    Marshal of divan troops of the Balabol military district
  • collapse34
    collapse34 5 February 2016 11: 28
    10
    Mahmut, my friend, come on, tell these tales) What bones? I myself served an urgent term, moreover in a very very combat unit, and no one, I repeat, NO ONE had these problems!
    Yes, I agree that somehow these loads can affect, but not so much. My problem is mainly my knees, but I probably won’t tell you whether or not this.
    Well, by the very step - our combatant step is not in vain recognized as one of the most beautiful in the world!
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 5 February 2016 15: 39
      +3
      Quote: collapse34
      Mahmut, my friend, come on, tell these tales) What bones? I myself served an urgent term, moreover in a very very combat unit, and no one, I repeat, NO ONE had these problems!
      Yes, I agree that somehow these loads can affect, but not so much. My problem is mainly my knees, but I probably won’t tell you whether or not this.
      Well, by the very step - our combatant step is not in vain recognized as one of the most beautiful in the world!
    2. Bruss
      Bruss 5 February 2016 16: 07
      +2
      In ordinary parts, 2 hours drill per week. At ORPK, it was 5 hours a day. Except Monday, Saturday and Sunday. My knees hurt, I won’t lie! But I'm 45 years old! There’s just something that’s starting to hurt!
  • Homo
    Homo 5 February 2016 11: 35
    +7
    Quote: Mahmut
    I had a friend ...

    I had a grandmother, a neighbor, so one grandmother said ...! am
  • Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 5 February 2016 11: 38
    +3
    Actually, the Prussian step was in the Wehrmacht. Now there is in North Korea (that is still a sight). It features a slightly jumping gait. In Russia, the USSR, the Russian Empire, the Prussian step was NEVER.
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 5 February 2016 11: 54
      +4
      Quote: Black Colonel
      In Russia, the USSR, the Russian Empire, the Prussian step was NEVER.

      Was, under Paul the First - a fan of Frederick the Great.
      Yes, and later ... For example, 1894 (sorry for the long quote)
      ..in a company, through long, hard work, a special, extremely rare and hard step was developed during the marching, and the soldiers raised their legs very high and threw them to the ground with force. It came out loud and impressive and served as an envy for other company commanders.
      But before the first company had even taken fifty steps, the impatient cry of the corps commander rang out:
      - What is this? Stop the company. Stop it! Company commander, please come to me. What are you showing here? What is this: a funeral procession? Torchlight? Sliding soldiers? Three pace marching? Now, captain, it’s not Nikolaev times when they served twenty-five years. How many extra days it took you on this corps de ballet! Precious days!
      A. Kuprin "Duel"
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 5 February 2016 12: 50
      +1
      It jumps lightly solely from a high pace of movement when printing a foot into the ground. If you slow down, it will be like going through a shift of honor guard.
  • abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 5 February 2016 11: 54
    19
    Your friend didn’t try to wash his feet regularly? Yes footcloths not lazy to reel properly? In order not to knock down legs in blood
    In our company, the legs were rotted only by a couple of the most smart people who stubbornly did not want to maintain hygiene and monitor uniforms, in spite of any statutory penalties and non-statutory suggestions. It seems that according to your characteristics, your friend did not belong to this category.
    For the first month on KMB, from my habit, I had abrasions and calluses from lost footcloths. Other normal ones too. No more.

    This is if you do not take the presence / absence of a regiment with that name in the composition of the USSR / RF Armed Forces.

    And then. Did your friend tell you this before or after he drowned? According to your own words.
    And then it is not clear from the context: on an urgent (in a nonexistent treble) I started to rot from shagistiki, they proposed to cut off my legs in the future, did not agree, drowned. But at the same time he told you about all this tragedy, as about something that he had long lived through.
    And if he was ordered to take care of himself in the medical unit, then how is it? To abandon the drill? That is, when the company’s command to advance to the parade ground does not obey the order? Or commissed?
    You are either more intelligible / plausible to present this case, or better not to write. In this form, your story is fabulous nonsense.
    1. Ostwest
      Ostwest 7 February 2016 10: 06
      0
      It is good to see an accurate analysis and a convincing conclusion.
  • guzik007
    guzik007 5 February 2016 12: 30
    +2
    hours of training, the bones began to rot.
    -------------------------------------------
    Well, this is from the category of OBS. But seriously, the sentries usually have kidney problems, the so-called "march proteinuria". Those. protein appears in the urine. However, that's why it is marching, because it can take place during long transitions. It's good that it passes after the disappearance of the loads.
  • lazy
    lazy 5 February 2016 12: 59
    +1
    told after drowned? negative
  • nemec55
    nemec55 5 February 2016 15: 14
    +3
    What a tragedy. How now Kazakhstan will interact in joint military exercises with the Russian army. The pace of the step is not the same, the sock does not stretch - this is the direct path to defeat.

    It is probably pleasant for couch patriots to observe from the side how the guard of honor dances out there. I had a friend, he served in the regiment named after Dzerzhinsky. So he told how his bones began to rot from many hours of training. He was warned that if he didn’t take care of himself, they would cut off in five years. Well, he didn’t let his legs cut, but just drowned. There was a beautiful little devil, any quadrille on the move. And how many such young handsome guys because of the Prussian step crippled because of the Kremlin Ponte. There will be enough health for two years, and what will happen to a person after that - nobody cares.

    fool the problem with his campaign was in the scribble (don’t put the stick anywhere)
  • sgazeev
    sgazeev 5 February 2016 15: 32
    +1
    My youngest cousin, in his 5th year, marched in a parade from the school of the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR in 1982, he is alive, well, and soon will change his sixth dozen. soldier
  • Scoun
    Scoun 5 February 2016 18: 36
    +6
    Quote: Mahmut
    For couch patriots it’s probably nice to watch from the side how is the guard of honor dancing. I had a friend, he served in the regiment named after Dzerzhinsky. So he told how his bones began to rot from many hours of training.

    Think yourself how not the most extreme load can start to rot the bones? Maybe the reason was something else?
    Do you think the guard of honor does nothing but walk? Walking itself from the total volume of training is 10% percent and then the emphasis is not on the sonority of the "stomping" but on the ability to keep the pitch, rhythm, and a hundred times by me the "damned" bayonet of the carbine))) which, like a signal flag, falling over, constantly fired me)))
    Quote: bruss
    At ORPK, it was 5 hours a day. Except Monday, Saturday and Sunday. My knees hurt I will not lie!

    The most that I remember.
    1. Forever heaped up a carbine trying to lean against his shoulder well and raked naturally)))
    2. He could not stand standing with his elongated leg (90%) and got a flat sword on the fifth point and legs))
    3. Waste approach fixation, this is the right hand and in the left carabiner
    4. In the box (elbow) hold the line
    5. The main bike is not the "bike" that went among us - This will write with blood if you put your foot on the FIVE! All! there are no more problems with the knees and other parts of the body, only aKiytrud from morning to evening and the second compartment of the second platoon (in the company there are three platoons of three compartments) - this is a special compartment with additional loads.
    6. Fed intensely)))
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  • 341712
    341712 5 February 2016 12: 53
    +3
    Quote: aleks 62 next
    aleks 62 next Today, 09: 52 ↑
    .... The coolest are the Greeks ...

    ... The coolest Africans .... Something between carnival dances and Indian combatant ....

    ))))))) Not all the Greeks are more fun, they have my grandmother’s slippers on their feet))) laughing
  • PValery53
    PValery53 5 February 2016 18: 59
    0
    Not a ceremonial step, but, directly, some kind of "entlebucher senenhund", if not to use obscene language.
  • Platonich
    Platonich 5 February 2016 10: 30
    0
    This must be entered on the Maidan! Glory to the heroes!
  • Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 5 February 2016 11: 18
    +1
    Quote: Pravdarm
    creeping Greeks

    And they beat the earth with a hoof! And on the toes of slippers, and on the heels, metal heels.
  • guzik007
    guzik007 5 February 2016 12: 25
    0
    ..The coolest are the Greeks ...
    -----------------------------
    Polunin is resting with his actors ... Well, can such an army be at war? The theater begins with a hanger, as they say.
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 5 February 2016 12: 45
    +9
    Quote: Pravdarm
    The coolest are the creeping Greeks

    Change of guard India-Pakistan ...
    1. ashat2906
      ashat2906 5 February 2016 12: 56
      +3
      cool video
    2. Bath
      Bath 5 February 2016 19: 23
      +3
      yeah cool little guy that those that have others and crests directly in the subject are purely cockroaches kurekhanichi
  • Nord2015
    Nord2015 5 February 2016 13: 04
    +1
    Quote: Pravdarm
    The coolest are the creeping Greeks

    Such pomponichki on shoes ..... They would still be sewn on the same back, they would have become bunnies. A soldier should not look like a plush toy, even in a ceremonial uniform.
    1. brelok
      brelok 5 February 2016 14: 42
      +1
      Quote: Nord2015
      Quote: Pravdarm
      The coolest are the creeping Greeks

      Such pomponichki on shoes ..... They would still be sewn on the same back, they would have become bunnies. A soldier should not look like a plush toy, even in a ceremonial uniform.

      And these are not toys. During the occupation, a blade of about 10-12 cm was hidden in these "pompoms" and the blow was applied approximately along the same trajectory as in the video. Learn materiel!
  • Onizuka teacher
    Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 13
    -19 qualifying.
    Quote: Bath
    Yes, this is of course the first priority in the state is the next step on the road to independence and Kazakhstan (from sea to sea))

    Wai wai how much puffos. You first become the masters in your yards, as the highlanders danced lezginka and dance.
  • Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 5 February 2016 09: 30
    18
    Quote: Temples
    And here bang is the solution -
    marching is not like the Russians !!!
    Well done, the main Kazakh!

    Apparently, there are no more problems left in Kazakhstan, since the President himself has taken care of the dimension of the marching step.
    No need to stop! It should be more radical changes in the combat training of the Kazakh army to introduce. Here, as in India, for example

    Have fun!
    1. Pravdarm
      Pravdarm 5 February 2016 09: 55
      +5
      Yes! Here's another army of packs and Hindus - tough pranksters! laughing
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 5 February 2016 12: 06
      +1
      It’s they who train the erection of the legs on the video. A pair of camouflage dances in the first minute is probably a tactical lesson. smile
      Seriously, it all reminds me more of the entertainment of old-timers over recruits.
  • Slobber
    Slobber 5 February 2016 09: 42
    -6
    Well, Kazakhs are not Russian after all.
    How else to show your independence?

    And where is Alexander72 and his eternal "I have the honor"? Now it's time to explain to everyone about a new word in drill.
  • the polar
    the polar 5 February 2016 09: 48
    +5
    The fact is that among Kazakhs, like all nomads, their legs are crooked, and pulling a sock and minting a step for them can result in a fall in formation and dislocation of the knee. So they have to strain their elbasy Mosk, correct the military article. Do not trust ministers with strategic decisions
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 5 February 2016 11: 05
      +3
      Quote: Polar
      like all nomads, the legs are crooked, and pulling the sock and minting a step for them can result in a fall in the ranks and dislocation of the knee.

      The Company of the Honor Guard (PKK) of Kyrgyzstan was considered in quality in second place after the Kremlin, the late 90s and early 2000s, now who does not know.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 5 February 2016 12: 12
        +5
        I don’t know how it is with ratings. But now, in Bishkek, the changing of the guard in the central square near the flag is very clear. The guys go on 5+.
    2. Onizuka teacher
      Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 56
      -9
      Quote: Polar
      The fact is that among Kazakhs, like all nomads, their legs are crooked, and pulling a sock and minting a step for them can result in a fall in formation and dislocation of the knee. So they have to strain their elbasy Mosk, correct the military article. Do not trust ministers with strategic decisions

      I will shine through you. The thing is that the Prussian step is outdated and this was understood in Europe where it originated, but you are as stubborn as the boyars under Petrusz.
      1. Dimit
        Dimit 5 February 2016 14: 09
        +5
        "I will show you through" can I enlighten? you are our Slavs))
        1. nemec55
          nemec55 5 February 2016 15: 31
          +1
          "I will show you through" can I enlighten? you are our Slavs))

          We can have his surname Rengen and you’re pestering
      2. Alf
        Alf 5 February 2016 20: 11
        +3
        Quote: Teacher Onizuka
        Prussian step outdated

        And how is it outdated?
        Quote: Teacher Onizuka
        understood in Europe

        And in Europe there are also homosexual people and what, should we also have? In Europe, a lot of things were understood, but only from understanding this they were getting worse and worse.
  • Koshak
    Koshak 5 February 2016 10: 16
    +2
    Quote: Temples
    Well, Kazakhs are not Russian after all.
    How else to show your independence?
    I can’t fix it laughing
    And here bang is the solution -
    marching is not like the Russians !!!
    Well done, the main Kazakh!
    Especially the Estonians even refused in 2008, and the Kazakhs pulled their noses to the last! wassat
    Now how trampled by the dying ... uh !!!

    Offers accepted? There is an option.


    1. fif21
      fif21 5 February 2016 11: 19
      0
      Quote: Koshak
      Offers accepted? There is an option.

      There are options!
  • user
    user 5 February 2016 10: 35
    +2
    In this case, the leg should be raised 10-15 centimeters from the ground, the toe should be carried out freely, without stretching


    At the same time bounce and wave hands.
  • Lelek
    Lelek 5 February 2016 11: 41
    0
    Quote: Temples
    And here the bang is the solution - to march not like the Russians !!! Well done, the main Kazakh!


    Yes, let "walk" as they want, even backwards or on all fours. It's just that Nazar-bai has senile insanity and the syndrome of "long sitting on the throne." bully
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  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 5 February 2016 11: 56
    +3
    Quote: Temples
    How else to show your independence?


    The point here is not think independence. What is the meaning of these changes? This new step is less physically stressful for weaker people. The step is shorter, the pace is slower, the rise of the legs is lower, the toe should not be strained. I was served by guys from the Kzyl-Orda region. Environmental disaster zone, if anyone does not know. So they could not run out a 100-meter out of 18 seconds. 18 year old guys! The rest ran fine. And they coped with the drill step. Something is alarming to me for the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan.
  • Onizuka teacher
    Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 15
    -11 qualifying.
    Quote: Temples
    Well, Kazakhs are not Russian after all.
    How else to show your independence?
    I can’t fix it
    And here bang is the solution -
    marching is not like the Russians !!!
    Well done, the main Kazakh!
    Especially the Estonians even refused in 2008, and the Kazakhs pulled their noses to the last!
    Now how trampled by the dying ... uh !!!

    Well, where are the Kazakhs to drinkers, disabled Russians. There was some equipment in your Moscow region that needed to be purchased, some visitors are working. When asked why you don’t take people from the local population, the foreman answered that they say drinkers and a couch potato are not needed.
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 5 February 2016 12: 37
      -3
      Well, where are the Kazakhs to drinkers, disabled Russians.
      -------------------------------------------------
      Plus, with regret. There is a particle of truth, which is already there. Yes, just a question, teacher- Why are you pi ... ra inserted into the avatar?
      1. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 49
        -4
        Quote: guzik007
        Why did you put this pi ... ra in the avatar?

        I look like him, besides hetero.
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 5 February 2016 14: 55
          +3
          I look like him, besides hetero.
          I did not understand you. The one on your avatar cannot be hetero-he homo.
    2. Alf
      Alf 5 February 2016 20: 15
      0
      Quote: Teacher Onizuka
      . When asked why you don’t take people from the local population, the foreman answered that they say drinkers and a couch potato are not needed.

      And in Kronstadt, a couple of years ago, all non-Russians from working positions in the municipal economy were dismissed, so these places (janitors, cleaners, etc.) were immediately taken by local Russians and the city shone.
  • Pereira
    Pereira 5 February 2016 09: 29
    10
    If your legs are difficult to lift, you can switch to English.
    But the Indian is the coolest.

    1. Edvagan
      Edvagan 5 February 2016 09: 50
      +2
      to laugh even more, type in the search engine "Guard of Honor Greece", that's where rzhach!)))
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    2. Samen
      Samen 5 February 2016 09: 52
      23
      Quote: Pereira
      If your legs are difficult to lift, you can switch to English.

      The Saxons have caps over their eyes. We have to feel our way with our feet ...
      The Indians - the grass is a tall, full snake ...
      The Kazakhs have steppe dust from the "Prussian step" into the sky ...
      We, on the cobblestones of Red Square - the very IT !!! good good good
      1. Slobber
        Slobber 5 February 2016 10: 15
        -18 qualifying.
        Saxon caps are pulled over his eyes. We have to feel our way with our feet ...
        The Indians - the grass is a tall, full snake ...
        The Kazakhs have steppe dust from the "Prussian step" into the sky ...
        We, on the cobblestones of Red Square - the very IT !!!

        Therefore, the Saxons, Indians and Kazakhs will march along the cobblestones of Red Square? Will you sell paving stones there or invite them to Moscow for parades?
        1. Alf
          Alf 5 February 2016 21: 21
          0
          Quote: razgildyay
          Therefore, the Saxons, Indians and Kazakhs will march along the cobblestones of Red Square?

          Once you can invite these. Let the Russians look at the curiosity. A long time ago there was no circus on Red Square. But seriously, then the British walked like a thread and the Poles, the eternal provincials of Europe, kept an excellent step. But with the passage of the Americans, I had the impression that there was a crowd of men, accidentally dressed up in military uniforms. Uniforms from someone else’s shoulder, short and kuruzye. And they did not carry a banner, but some kind of bunchuk, rags on a stick well-stocked.
          C4 minutes.
    3. PROXOR
      PROXOR 5 February 2016 10: 14
      0
      Quote: Pereira
      If your legs are difficult to lift, you can switch to English.

      Actually it's the Danes)))
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 5 February 2016 10: 49
        0
        In this case, they are well disguised.
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    4. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 5 February 2016 12: 15
      +2
      In the video about the British ... I wonder how historically this step was invented? The feeling that they are walking in a minefield or in a fresh, thin river people walking and distributing weight on both legs so as not to fail.
      Well, or in a dunghill. So as not to spray and push apart dried dung.
  • There are a lot of us
    There are a lot of us 5 February 2016 09: 36
    0
    And the hands will hold a causal place ... laughing
  • va3610
    va3610 5 February 2016 09: 47
    +2
    ... And hands under the finger ...
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  • tol100v
    tol100v 5 February 2016 09: 58
    +8
    Quote: SSR
    Nazarbayev simplified and took a walking step, it is a pity that

    It is a pity that he did not introduce Michael Jackson's "moon step"! The thieves would start to die of laughter!
  • captain
    captain 5 February 2016 10: 00
    21
    By the way, we introduced the Prussian step under Paul I, who, when reforming the Russian army, took the Prussian military machine, which was already outdated at that time, as a model. Being a fan of Frederick II the Great, Paul liked to repeat: “A soldier is a simple mechanism, the article provides for it.” He willingly followed the advice of Repnin and Arakcheev, who believed that “the more equal the step, the greater the hope of victory.” Suvorov immediately took an implacable position with respect to the “Prussian ventures.” The reforms of Rumyantsev, Potemkin, his own forty-year-old activity - all went down the drain. The Russian army was thrown back half a century ago, to the time of the incompetent successors of Peter I, the living spirit in it was replaced by dead, mechanical obedience; combat training - in shagistics; national characteristics - blind imitation of the Prussian samples.
    Suvorov rebelled against all this both as a military man and as a patriot. Once he declared with his slogan: “Never against the fatherland!” - and now, he was sacredly loyal to him.
    Helpful lackeys increasingly informed the emperor about the harsh comments of the old field marshal: “Soldiers, no matter how funny, sad, and divorces are boring. “My step has been reduced by three quarters and tacos to the enemy instead of forty thirty miles”. “The Russian Prussians always beat, what to adopt here”, “There is no lice more than the Prussians: the lauser, or lice, was called their cloak, but you won’t pass a schilt-gouse and near the booth, and they’ll give you a foul head stink”, gunpowder, bukley not guns, braids not a cleaver, I’m not German, but a natural Rusak, etc., etc. The Lord commenting, was Suvorov stupid than the author of the article and did not know the nature of the Russian soldier?
    1. Onizuka teacher
      Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 59
      -9
      Quote: captain
      Commenting on the Lord, was Suvorov stupid than the author of the article and did not know the nature of the Russian soldier?

      You sir at the moment, alas, do not prove that the Prussian step for the Russians is a stranger and not a native. Slaves will not understand.
      1. co-creator
        co-creator 5 February 2016 21: 53
        +2
        Quote: Teacher Onizuka
        You sir at the moment, alas, do not prove that the Prussian step for the Russians is a stranger and not a native. Slaves will not understand.

        About slaves you are in vain. There are no comrades for taste and color, although I would also cancel it. You can leave for the guard of honor, for example, no more. In general, it’s interesting to see how your new step will look.
    2. Gronsky
      Gronsky 5 February 2016 13: 47
      +3
      Quote: captain
      “Powder is not gunpowder, bukley is not guns, braids are not a cleaver, I am not German, but a natural Rusak”


      Suvorov, of course, a military man from God and an excellent patriot, was right. But...
      In the modern army, shagistics takes such an insignificant place that I think it’s completely wrong to make a way of walking a stumbling block and breaking spears in disputes. The Prussian step itself is the most spectacular and leaving parades without it will be a mistake. Moreover, he is so firmly associated with the Russian / Soviet army that no one even remembers his roots.
  • siberalt
    siberalt 5 February 2016 10: 40
    +5
    The divorce of the guard is not a marching step. The marching step is 120 per minute. Listen to the same "Slavic" at a pace of 90 beats per minute, and even worse, march at such a pace. You will stumble. laughing 120 beats per minute is even physiologically substantiated. On average, there are two steps for a heart beat and two for inhalation and exhalation. The rest is a circus.
  • the most important
    the most important 5 February 2016 10: 46
    -1
    Quote: SSR
    it’s a pity that the article says nothing about hands.

    Put one finger in the nose, the second in ..... and that's it! The new drill step is ready !!!
  • Kent0001
    Kent0001 5 February 2016 11: 43
    0
    In reality, our parades are the most beautiful, including because of the step.
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  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 5 February 2016 11: 44
    0
    And first, let us defeat all Our enemies, and then take up this ballet. Like it was in 1945.
  • shark
    shark 5 February 2016 11: 47
    +2
    Well, if you look, then yes. Have you tried it like that? The time of the tin soldiers with unbending knees has passed. The drill step should not be tedious and practical. And yet, how does an elongated sock affect defense?
    1. skobars
      skobars 5 February 2016 19: 07
      +2
      Once, he himself didn’t really like combat training, and only with time realized that this really rallies the military team. And why should the drill step not be tiring? Walking in front of the rostrum 200-300m will not crumble, but it will be spectacular and really visible - THERE IS A SOVIET MILITARY THREAT, let the allies respect, and the enemies be afraid. And for the rest there is a usual walking step.
      1. co-creator
        co-creator 5 February 2016 22: 00
        +1
        Quote: skobars
        Once, he himself didn’t really like combat training, and only with time realized that this really rallies the military team.

        That I didn’t notice it. Here is a march throw rallying. Learning to act in groups can be another step.
        Quote: skobars
        And why should the drill step not be tiring? Walking 200-300m in front of the rostrum will not crumble, but it will be spectacular and really visible. HERE IS THE SOVIET MILITARY THREAT, let the Allies respect, and the enemies are afraid. And for the rest, there is the usual walking step.

        We need to get tired on military training, and not on combat training. Spectacular .that is yes. So leave a special company and recruit there under the contract, let them march. For the military you need to simplify.
  • twviewer
    twviewer 5 February 2016 12: 08
    +2
    "Being a hater of drills, Suvorov trained his regiment in what was really needed in the war."
    Let the Kremlin company mint, the rest the Prussian step for what?
  • Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 5 February 2016 12: 15
    +1
    Quote: SSR
    if you look at the same Parade or the change of the Guard in the Alexander Garden, then it’s breathtaking, when we caught the courage we had the smell of burning rubber behind us)))

    It is foolish to cancel the line step because of the name. Our marching step looks very beautiful, rightly you said that it was breathtaking.
  • djqnbdjqnb
    djqnbdjqnb 5 February 2016 15: 20
    +1
    Let me explain. The current so-called "goose" marching step in Russia is not Russian, but Prussian, it was introduced by Frederick II Barbarossa, and in the Russian army - Paul I, a great admirer of Frederick. In the Russian army of the late XIX - early XX centuries, no one walked like a goose step at parades and on solemn occasions; it was reintroduced after the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. And so they left it. A somewhat unexpected reaction, but I don't regret it, I just expressed my opinion.
  • sgazeev
    sgazeev 5 February 2016 15: 23
    0
    Quote: SSR
    Quote: djqnbdjqnb
    And correctly canceled, and we need. And then we entered this Prussian step in 39, and we continue to walk by inertia.

    Well, don’t tell))) if you look at the same Parade or the change of the Guard in the Alexander Garden, then it’s breathtaking, when we caught the courage we had the smell of burning rubber behind us))))
    Maybe you want a step that would sort out the Haxi Hindi packs like haha? IMHA. Nazarbayev simplified and took a walking step, it is a pity that the article says nothing about hands.
  • Drmadfisher
    Drmadfisher 5 February 2016 16: 30
    0
    hands in pants
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  • Blondy
    Blondy 5 February 2016 09: 23
    +7
    Quote: djqnbdjqnb
    And correctly canceled, and we need. And then we entered this Prussian step in 39, and we continue to walk by inertia.

    There are no other problems - we will break the spears: cancel - do not cancel.
    Kazakhstan solved the problem - what national specific contribution can be made to the armed forces with all that is ready.
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  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 5 February 2016 09: 32
    +9
    Quote: djqnbdjqnb
    And correctly canceled, and we need. And then we entered this Prussian step in 39, and we continue to walk by inertia.

    What? Is this patch right? A great step, a soldier is well disciplined.
    After all, the whole essence, all the salt, the whole philosophy of drill training is an integral part of which is the drill step is the cultivation of self-control, awareness in each of its actions.
    The purpose of marching in formation is not at all for "young ladies to wave their caps" (although this one too), but to feel like a part of a military organism, to act harmoniously, to accustom oneself to be a part of a team, a reliable and intelligent cell of a hedgehog's fighting organism.

    You can compare this masterpiece
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6ql6rixds

    С kakaphonium:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrbiRzVFFeY


    By the way, not for fun, but just interesting:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM1abXlQhVU


    But the Belarusians excelled!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfMofFEtcHM
    Well, cool!
    1. the polar
      the polar 5 February 2016 09: 52
      0
      All is correct. The more drill training on the parade ground, the less mess in the barracks
      1. twviewer
        twviewer 5 February 2016 12: 21
        +2
        Quote: Polar
        More drill on the parade ground

        the less combat training
      2. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 5 February 2016 14: 59
        +1
        Quote: Polar
        By the way, not for fun, but just interesting:

        It seems to me that the problem is metal horseshoes (heels?), So they glide on the asphalt ...
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    3. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 5 February 2016 14: 51
      +3
      It’s also beautiful ...
  • Patriot 1
    Patriot 1 5 February 2016 09: 34
    10
    Nazarbayev has nothing to do! Changing the combat step will not in any way affect the combat effectiveness of the army. And people in uniform "hemorrhoids" arranged. All that is worked out to automatism is to rebuild at a subconscious level ...
    There is a good saying: "When a cat has nothing to do, he licks balls."
    1. Wajra-3
      Wajra-3 5 February 2016 10: 12
      +5
      No, well, when there are no recruits and even "honor guards" who can take such a step, this is understandable. The "friends of the steppes" cannot walk like that - and God bless them. Let them crawl on all fours.
      Recently I watched a parade in Latvia or Estonia or in Lithuania (in general, the Three Baltic countries), neighing for half a day. I advise you to look. It will be the same.
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  • sisa29
    sisa29 5 February 2016 09: 39
    +6
    You confuse the drill and Prussian
    A drill is what everyone knows: a physician at school, a drill is a walk at a rate of 110-120 steps per minute. The charter establishes the size within 70-80 cm.
    A marching one is the same combatant, only after the command "At ease!"
    Goose - a ceremonial step, first introduced in Prussia under Frederick II the Great used during military parades. At this step, the elongated leg should rise up to such a height that it forms a right angle with the body. A vivid example: Nazi Germany was remembered for its goose pace.

    But in terms of the abolition of drill, I agree with you. all this was relevant when conducting combat operations with smooth-bore weapons, when the accuracy of the volley was achieved by the precise execution of combatant commands. Nowadays, I think this is only a tribute to tradition as not affecting the conduct of hostilities
    1. va3610
      va3610 5 February 2016 09: 52
      +4
      Do we have someone moving along the battlefield?
    2. Scraptor
      Scraptor 5 February 2016 09: 53
      +2
      Yes horizontal bar, too, why? soon we’ll all get on all fours ...
      1. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 13: 00
        -6
        Quote: Scraptor
        Yes horizontal bar, too, why? soon we’ll all get on all fours ...

        Or maybe even a finger with a muzhitsky aggregate?
        1. pv1005
          pv1005 5 February 2016 13: 45
          +2
          Quote: Onizuka's teacher
          Quote: Scraptor
          Yes horizontal bar, too, why? soon we’ll all get on all fours ...

          Or maybe even a finger with a muzhitsky aggregate?

          Well, you know better.
  • va3610
    va3610 5 February 2016 09: 47
    0
    Did you serve yourself?
  • Pravdarm
    Pravdarm 5 February 2016 09: 52
    +9
    Quote: djqnbdjqnb
    And correctly canceled, and we need.

    You shouldn’t be so! We have the most beautiful, clear, combatant step (my opinion), even if it came from Prussia!
  • Damask
    Damask 5 February 2016 09: 54
    +3
    Damn that's what it comes to ma wink um, probably immediately the morale in the army rose
  • Sweles
    Sweles 5 February 2016 10: 21
    -5
    Kazakhs do not like their history, refuse continuity, first the Russian step, then the Russian alphabet, despite the fact that the Kazakhs are Cossacks ...
    1. Boos
      Boos 5 February 2016 10: 42
      +1
      Cossacks? No, it was not Kazakhstan, but there was a Cossack camp! And the Turkestan governorship governing the natives.
      1. Sweles
        Sweles 5 February 2016 11: 46
        +1
        Quote: Boos
        Cossacks? No uh


        why not then?
      2. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 22
        -9
        Quote: Boos
        Cossacks? No, it was not Kazakhstan, but there was a Cossack camp! And the Turkestan governorship governing the natives.

        Oh my God. Aborigines ... I am Ukrainian, a descendant of the Cossacks. But who are you, a serf who does not know his story and who offends other nations. Do not like other nations except yours? Give independence to all republics and live in proud Muscovy rejoicing that now all Russians live here. And Shoigu’s resignation is not yours either.
        1. co-creator
          co-creator 5 February 2016 22: 02
          +2
          Quote: Teacher Onizuka
          Oh my God. Aborigines ... I am Ukrainian, a descendant of the Cossacks.

          Oh, Svidomo pulled himself up. Ha.hel all the Zaporozhye Cossacks live in the Kuban, and the rest are mummers.
      3. your1970
        your1970 5 February 2016 19: 42
        0
        "Kazakhstan Temir Zholy" - I confirm
  • blackenergy89
    blackenergy89 5 February 2016 10: 21
    -11 qualifying.
    I fully support, we also do not need this step, it looks to me all this is very comical
  • Boos
    Boos 5 February 2016 10: 25
    0
    Prussian step, not for a nomad, legs do not allow ...)))
    1. Scraptor
      Scraptor 5 February 2016 10: 35
      -1
      and for his horse? crying
      1. Scraptor
        Scraptor 5 February 2016 12: 01
        0
        some horse was offended and minus ... laughing
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 5 February 2016 12: 18
          -1
          Quote: Scraptor
          the horse is offended and minus

          Well, to hell with him donkey in the rib.
    2. Onizuka teacher
      Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 24
      -9
      Quote: Boos
      Prussian step, not for a nomad, legs do not allow ...)))

      Wow, and your youth this KMSniki from the Caucasus teach this step, and toilets to wash white.
      1. Boos
        Boos 5 February 2016 12: 40
        +3
        To a connoisseur of the Caucasus ... - It depends not on the youth, but on the anti-Russian policy of the Kremlin. In Kazakhstan, it is no better in relation to the Russians ... You can calmly live among the Russians in the minority and no one will "pinch" you, but when, on the contrary, you do not give us life, you realize your inferiority complexes ...
        1. Onizuka teacher
          Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 54
          -9
          Quote: Boos
          To a connoisseur of the Caucasus ... - It depends not on the youth, but on the anti-Russian policy of the Kremlin. In Kazakhstan, it is no better in relation to the Russians ... You can calmly live among the Russians in the minority and no one will "pinch" you, but when, on the contrary, you do not give us life, you realize your inferiority complexes ...

          Oh oh oh. Poor Russians, plac poster. But I, as the Slavs, live very well in Kazakhstan, there are many Kazakh friends and none of them insulted me, unlike the Russians, when I found out that I was Ukrainian.
          As always, the Kremlin is to blame for you! Fortunately, we do not have complexes. But the complexes are not full in the face of Caucasian origin in Russian already in the blood.
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 5 February 2016 13: 17
            +3
            Quote: Teacher Onizuka
            But I, as Slavs, live very well in Kazakhstan

            as Slavs say you live? Oh well.
          2. Dimit
            Dimit 5 February 2016 13: 49
            +4
            "How are the Slavs"? do we have a new nationality? you are the same Slavs as I am Japanese)) Kazakh notes slip through, with the endings of the problem)) I can see this as a resident of Almaty. Defective, you see, they beat me in childhood, now you harbor anger.
            1. Onizuka teacher
              Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 16: 29
              -5
              Quote: Dimit
              you are the same Slavs as I am Japanese))

              Well, then sir, you are Japanese.
              Quote: Dimit
              Kazakh notes slip through

              Oh wise, I was born in Kazakhstan.
              Quote: Dimit
              Damaged, apparently beaten in childhood, you now harbor anger.

              Wow, what an evil bad guy. Unfortunately, I was so large that before graduating from university no one contacted me, I love being friends. I forgive you for your ignorance.
              1. co-creator
                co-creator 5 February 2016 22: 05
                0
                Quote: Teacher Onizuka
                Unfortunately, I was so large that before graduating from university no one contacted me, I love being friends. I forgive you for your ignorance

                All kakly are so formidable, already terrible.
          3. Darwin
            Darwin 5 February 2016 14: 47
            +1
            Fagot you scat in your hohlostan
  • protos187
    protos187 5 February 2016 11: 14
    +1
    And we will walk like grandmas bazaar. Shame and disgrace, what a filth it is.
  • Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 5 February 2016 11: 14
    -2
    Quote: djqnbdjqnb
    And then introduced this Prussian step

    Translate from the Prussian step to worm crawling! Or cancer. To choose from.
  • guzik007
    guzik007 5 February 2016 12: 22
    +3
    And correctly canceled, and we need.
    ---------------------------------
    Well, let’s then. How the Indians walk, for the amusement of the public. I don’t agree. Maybe he was once "Prussian", but for a long time already "Russian" It is very expensive to see!
  • sgazeev
    sgazeev 5 February 2016 15: 20
    +2
    Quote: djqnbdjqnb
    And correctly canceled, and we need. And then we entered this Prussian step in 39, and we continue to walk by inertia.
  • your1970
    your1970 5 February 2016 18: 41
    +2
    The only thing for which a combat step is needed is the coherence of the unit, the feeling of a comrade’s shoulder ...
    At the time before the demobilization we walked at a free step — completely different sensations: the neighbor is not felt — you are wandering in a crowd, and not as a single collective
    And the beauty of the passage has nothing to do with it in principle
  • fanntomas
    fanntomas 5 February 2016 09: 19
    +7
    And you can still go forward with your back. And the speed is less and long stride. And to pull a leg is completely unnecessary.
    1. ramin_serg
      ramin_serg 5 February 2016 09: 35
      -1
      as I understand it, you are our smartest, in your opinion, if not like ours, then everything is not right?
      1. Bath
        Bath 5 February 2016 09: 43
        +2
        But how exactly do you have in Azerbaijan?
        1. ramin_serg
          ramin_serg 5 February 2016 09: 47
          -2
          changed since 2001 and all the way

          compare our parade

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDQWeZUmyd8
          1. Koshak
            Koshak 5 February 2016 10: 35
            +2
            Quote: ramin_serg
            changed since 2001 and all the way

            compare our parade

            Well, what's new in Azerbaijan? The same step that was in the Soviet Army
            1. ramin_serg
              ramin_serg 5 February 2016 11: 11
              0
              not invented but forgiven
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          3. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 5 February 2016 12: 00
            +3
            Quote: ramin_serg
            compare our parade

            And what, in fact, is there to compare? We switched to the Turkish manner of striding and clothing (in places). And the rest, the main changes affected the external design of the parade. There were no umbrellas above the guest stands, the speech of the host parade was much shorter, the equipment entered the square from two directions. I say this because I myself sat several times on the guest platform. Oh, yes, and presidential women have not been so actively demonstrated. So nothing particularly interesting, except for umbrellas and choral singing did not appear. And the Heydar cult did not exist. With blades clearly overstepped. The question arises, why was the cavalry not allowed? And for more than 25 years, the teams and officer ranks did not bother to transfer to Azerbaijani.
    2. Scraptor
      Scraptor 5 February 2016 09: 54
      -3
      and you can still on hand especially past the checkpoint window belay
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 5 February 2016 09: 20
    +3
    the most important thing for the Kazakhstan army today
    1. ramin_serg
      ramin_serg 5 February 2016 09: 34
      -1
      Learning a new step, a very important conscript, learns easily and with the least psychological pressure, and you don’t get tired when marching.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 5 February 2016 09: 37
        +3
        Quote: ramin_serg
        Yes, and when marching conveniently do not get tired

        at what?
        Quote: ramin_serg
        very important conscripts learning a new step learns easily and with the least psychological pressure

        learn what?
        1. ramin_serg
          ramin_serg 5 February 2016 09: 49
          -4
          if you don’t understand at what then nothing will help you

          I am writing for a particularly smart

          combatant step
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 5 February 2016 09: 55
            +2
            Quote: ramin_serg
            very important conscripts learning a new step learns easily and with the least psychological pressure

            read carefully "smart" you are our
          2. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 5 February 2016 10: 11
            +8
            For ramin_serg
            I am writing for a particularly SMART and even when marching conveniently do not get tired

            Dear, where it has been seen, so that on the march the infantry marched in combatant steps. Or is it accepted with you ?. If you are completely off topic, then do not write nonsense. It is not a market to trade.
      2. va3610
        va3610 5 February 2016 09: 54
        +8
        Well, as far as I remember, when you conducted the latest hostilities, running was most useful to your soldiers.
      3. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 5 February 2016 12: 29
        +2
        And before that, on your march-throws, you went only in full step? Stunned !!! Then yes, it is justified.
  • RESEARCHER
    RESEARCHER 5 February 2016 09: 20
    +3
    And then what will be the fate of our legendary marches, if we cancel? The farewell of the Slavs at such a pace of walking can not be fulfilled.
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 5 February 2016 10: 40
      +2
      Quote: RESEARCHER
      And then what will be the fate of our legendary marches, if we cancel? The farewell of the Slavs at such a pace of walking can not be fulfilled.

      With yours, which ones? The Russian army did not raise this issue.
  • Riv
    Riv 5 February 2016 09: 21
    +6
    "Keeping balance ..." - that's the problem, yes!
    Thank you, neighing in the morning. :)))
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  • activator
    activator 5 February 2016 09: 23
    -6
    Yes, in general, cancel the drill in the army, there’s nothing to do nonsense in the war from this sense, spend less time on the parade ground, and more on the training ground and in the park.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 5 February 2016 09: 25
      +3
      Quote: activator
      cancel the combat line in the army, nothing to do nonsense

      you do not know or just fool around?
      if the first then before writing, study the topic, if the second, then out of place
      1. activator
        activator 5 February 2016 09: 40
        -1
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Quote: activator
        cancel the combat line in the army, nothing to do nonsense

        you do not know or just fool around?
        if the first then before writing, study the topic, if the second, then out of place

        I studied this topic in the gum for half a year, as if we were being prepared for the guard of honor’s mouth in the amount that we had to engage in combat training; this is redundant. command staff. hi
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 5 February 2016 09: 52
          +3
          Quote: activator
          I studied this topic for half a year in the gum

          you have not studied this topic
          1. activator
            activator 5 February 2016 10: 16
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: activator
            I studied this topic for half a year in the gum

            you have not studied this topic

            Well, enlighten because we have not been taught theory.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 5 February 2016 11: 15
              +3
              meaning?!
              drill training is not only a drill, but also psychology
              1. activator
                activator 5 February 2016 12: 33
                -2
                You don’t want to dig it myself. So the essence of psychology in drill training is to ensure that a soldier on a machine gun executes commands and pre-stress resistance. IMHO tactics with executing commands like flash on the left, lie down on the right, and so on. and even with the use of explosive packages will bring more benefits than just drill. In order to develop stress resistance in a battle, it is necessary to conduct training close to the battle, and not to the parade.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 5 February 2016 12: 41
                  +1
                  Quote: activator
                  so the essence of psychology in drill training comes down to the fact that a soldier would carry out commands on a machine gun and acquire stress resistance

                  AND ALL? !!!
                  rummaged badly
                  1. activator
                    activator 5 February 2016 12: 49
                    -2
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Quote: activator
                    so the essence of psychology in drill training comes down to the fact that a soldier would carry out commands on a machine gun and acquire stress resistance

                    AND ALL? !!!
                    rummaged badly

                    Well, then discover a secret known only to you. winked
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 5 February 2016 14: 32
                      -1
                      I would say otherwise
                      this "secret" is unknown only to you
        2. activator
          activator 5 February 2016 09: 55
          -1
          And another one of the Israelis said that they did not have combat training in the army, and, strangely enough, they didn’t fight badly. If someone on the branch is from Israel, write so or not.
    2. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 5 February 2016 09: 30
      11
      cancel combat training in the army

      By the principle - I myself did not serve, but I can give good advice. Drill training is not only the alignment of a soldier, but also the norms that he must observe out of order and if you want, then self-discipline.
      As for Kazakhstan, this is of course their internal affair, but it’s somehow not handy to switch to someone else’s step. Now, probably, you will need to wait for a change in the form of clothing. I wonder which one will adapt to? Under the Chinese?
      1. Banshee
        Banshee 5 February 2016 09: 51
        +7
        Quote: rotmistr60
        As for Kazakhstan, this is of course their internal affair.


        Really. And there is nothing to add.

        However, further in the text, regarding China. Last year I watched at the "Army Games" how the Chinese walk - everything was thought up very competently. I spoke with one speaking Russian, he believes that our step is very difficult and difficult. Here who is used to what.
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 5 February 2016 10: 02
          +4
          how do the Chinese go

          Visually, their step is heavier than ours. Closer to our PKK. And in the form that I wrote about - we will assume that this is a hint of a possible orientation of Kazakhstan despite our good relations. It all starts small. First, I don’t like the step taken from someone, then the uniform, then ...
      2. oborzevatel
        oborzevatel 5 February 2016 10: 50
        +1
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Now, probably, you will need to wait for a change in the form of clothing. I wonder which one will adapt to? Under the Chinese?

        Not the worst role model, by the way.
      3. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 38
        -4
        Quote: rotmistr60
        but it’s somehow not handy to move to someone else’s step.

        You contradict yourself. The Prussian step is a stranger to you. Your native is just walking like archers in the old days and with a good song on your lips.
      4. activator
        activator 5 February 2016 13: 22
        -3
        Quote: rotmistr60
        the principle - I didn’t serve myself, but I can give a choir

        And you, as I understand it, still served in Tsar’s Mr. Captain Marshal of the Soviet Union. laughing
    3. Hydrograph
      Hydrograph 5 February 2016 09: 45
      +7
      At the expense of the park and the landfill correctly. But even without a drill, there is no way a company, a platoon, etc., not soldiers, but a herd of sheep. A drill with weapons? As an automaton on the chest, whoever how or how to. My son looked at the oath of tears welling up not to go not to turn not to answer the commander.
      1. rich
        rich 5 February 2016 10: 25
        +2
        Have you read the article? Changed the pace and step length.
      2. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 13: 49
        -2
        Quote: Hydrograph
        But even without a drill, there is no way a company, a platoon, etc., not soldiers, but a herd of sheep.

        Monsieur army is separated from the herd by discipline rather than marching step.
    4. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 5 February 2016 16: 45
      -1
      Quote: activator
      spend less time on the parade ground, and more on the training ground and in the park.

      And what about the fact that in the smoking rooms to install sofas and televisions, well, girls delivering beer and not only to make?
  • TARAS BULBA
    TARAS BULBA 5 February 2016 09: 24
    +1
    Quote: djqnbdjqnb
    And correctly canceled, and we need. And then we entered this Prussian step in 39, and we continue to walk by inertia.


    Look at the parade at 41 on Red Square and at 45 where did you see the Prussian step there ???
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 5 February 2016 09: 31
      0
      and what is the step there?
      1. TARAS BULBA
        TARAS BULBA 5 February 2016 09: 46
        +1
        look and compare with the Prussian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nisyt5JjCTY
  • seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 5 February 2016 09: 26
    0
    Well, let them go like a circus horse. And where is the military bearing and become?
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 5 February 2016 10: 04
      +3
      But tell me what is the task of the soldiers of modern army?
      1 Engage in daily training related to his combat profession and is preparing to effectively defend the country.
      2 Do a drill and develop a "military bearing and become", so that once a year it is beautiful to pass.
      Well, we have "funny troops". And why should all be exchanged for this nonsense?
      All this is a tribute to tradition - the desire to throw dust in the eyes of the enemy and a demonstration of their own power to their people. But you must admit that the victory in modern warfare is not beautifully marching, having a dashing appearance but competently wielding weapons and equipment, the army
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 5 February 2016 13: 02
        0
        That’s what the soldier’s mission is in the past, now !! The subordinate, in the face of the bosses, must have the appearance of a dashing and silly man, so as not to embarrass his bosses with his mind (s)
  • Ivan Ivanovich
    Ivan Ivanovich 5 February 2016 09: 29
    -3
    nothing more to do, that’s what they’re doing
  • ramin_serg
    ramin_serg 5 February 2016 09: 31
    0
    Very correct decision

    I myself was unhappy when we were changed, but then I realized the soldiers were tormenting me from the first days (and I was a tankman and didn’t understand why we needed an ideal combat step), the new version is much convenient and you don’t get tired walking
    1. Hydrograph
      Hydrograph 5 February 2016 10: 04
      +5
      the new option is much convenient and striding does not get tired

      are they really going to go on a march?
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  • Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 5 February 2016 09: 32
    +3
    Ours has nothing to do, then we need to introduce a step as the Arabs go in parades. After all, we type in the Islamic Republic mow.
    1. Samen
      Samen 5 February 2016 12: 06
      +2
      it is necessary to introduce a step as the Arabs go in parades. After all, we type in the Islamic Republic mow.

      Then, I think, it is worthwhile to wish: let the Islamic God, your country, keep from such copying!
  • gingerbread man 59
    gingerbread man 59 5 February 2016 09: 32
    -3
    I’m for the abolition of such a marching step it’s hard and even to keep an even line, it’s also hard to keep this step in the presidential regiment in the linear units.
    1. avt
      avt 5 February 2016 10: 01
      +5
      Quote: Gingerbread Man 59
      I need to take a step like the Chinese easy and beautiful I really liked how they walked on the road at home

      laughing Have you ever seen HOW they train it "easily" ?? Well, the same girls with tied T-shaped sticks on their backs for training posture when walking? Yes, in order to goggle without blinking for the entire time of passage, they also praise in the newspapers those who non-heat records are being set.
      Quote: Scandinavian
      , then you need to enter a step as the Arabs go in parades.

      what Nah! This is an Arabic step, so even before the Persian or Indian agree! It is necessary Turkic ..... to revive. But this is already the past, another thing is interesting - When the Tajiks go Persian-Iskanderimakedonis marching step wassat ?
      1. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 5 February 2016 10: 43
        -1
        Quote: Sveles
        Kazakhs do not like their history, refuse continuity, first the Russian step
        You did not try to read the note to start fool - written in Russian "canceled Prussian step"
        Quote: Scandinavian
        We have nothing to do, then we must enter a step as the Arabs go on parades. After all, we type the Islamic Republic mow
        How are you still in Kazashlaughing?! Jews, too, under the Islamic Republic mow repeat? As far as I understand the Israeli users, this stupid step in modern reality has been canceled long ago ..
        Quote: avt
        It is necessary Turkic ..... revive
        Э hi grandfather, that "pan-Turkism" still delivers .. wassat?!
        1. Onizuka teacher
          Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 32
          -2
          Quote: Alibekulu
          Are the Jews also mowing under the Islamic Republic? As far as I understand the Israeli users, this shagistics, useless in modern realities, have long been canceled ..

          I beg of you smile The IDF knows that you can’t go to the enemy combatant. But here, it is simply incomprehensible to most how can a combat-ready demon of the Prussian march be possible? And the Germans have been teaching mind to mind for centuries, you know who.
    2. pv1005
      pv1005 5 February 2016 12: 00
      +5
      Quote: Gingerbread Man 59
      I’m for the abolition of such a marching step it’s hard and even to keep an even line, it’s also hard to keep this step in the presidential regiment in the linear units.

      To serve in the army is generally difficult, all kinds of outfits, guards, exercises, training, in the heat and cold, in the rain and in a snowstorm. So can we cancel the army so that it is easy?
      1. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 32
        -1
        Quote: pv1005
        To serve in the army is generally difficult, all kinds of outfits, guards, exercises, training, in the heat and cold, in the rain and in a snowstorm. So can we cancel the army so that it is easy?

        Or maybe the combat step has nothing to do with the combat readiness of the armies?
        1. pv1005
          pv1005 5 February 2016 12: 55
          +2
          Quote: Onizuka's teacher
          Quote: pv1005
          To serve in the army is generally difficult, all kinds of outfits, guards, exercises, training, in the heat and cold, in the rain and in a snowstorm. So can we cancel the army so that it is easy?

          Or maybe the combat step has nothing to do with the combat readiness of the armies?

          Read at your leisure Structural Charter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation but only the whole and not selectively Articles 1-24.
          Maybe you will understand why drill is needed. I advise you to pay attention to Chapter 5 "Build a platoon, company, battalion and regiment by cars", Chapter 6 "Methods and techniques of movement of personnel of subunits in combat when operating on foot", Appendices 3 and 4. hi
          1. Onizuka teacher
            Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 13: 06
            -3
            Quote: pv1005
            Read at your leisure Structural Charter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation but only the whole and not selectively Articles 1-24.
            Maybe you will understand why drill is needed. I advise you to pay attention to Chapter 5 "Build a platoon, company, battalion and regiment by cars", Chapter 6 "Methods and techniques of movement of personnel of subunits in combat when operating on foot", Appendices 3 and 4.

            And it will help to shoot better? Or to raise morale on the battlefield with a drill walk?
            1. pv1005
              pv1005 5 February 2016 13: 14
              +3
              Quote: Onizuka's teacher

              And it will help to shoot better? Or to raise morale on the battlefield with a drill walk?

              I speak at leisure, read, then think, maybe understand. And after 10 minutes you’ll write another garbage. hi

              PS I didn’t see it right away
              Quote: Onizuka's teacher
              Quote: guzik007
              Why did you put this pi ... ra in the avatar?

              I look like him

              To whom am I trying to explain something? You’ve been a combatant’s charter and haven’t seen it in your eyes, it’s your destiny to watch Dom-2 TV shows. hi
              1. Onizuka teacher
                Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 13: 41
                -3
                Quote: pv1005
                your destiny is watching the TV show Dom-2.

                Do not touch the holy!
                But you explain to me how the Prussian step will make the army more effective in battle and not in a parade. Then I understand.
                1. nemec55
                  nemec55 5 February 2016 15: 07
                  0
                  Do not touch the holy!
                  But you explain to me how the Prussian step will make the army more effective in battle and not in a parade. Then I understand.

                  You see, you just don’t understand it.
                  I explain this is called a discipline in which the strength of the soldier’s spirit is developed. Once again, I will emphasize. WITH CONSTANT TRAINING OF THE STRICT STEP, the skill of perfect execution of the commander’s order is developed. A soldier with poor discipline will not win anywhere.
  • triglav
    triglav 5 February 2016 09: 37
    +3
    Please note: whoever walks fights like that!
  • nemec55
    nemec55 5 February 2016 09: 39
    +5
    Oh, these aksakals.
    Less and less joys, I explain Kazakhstan most of its history was under or in Russian influence (figuratively) Generally speaking, the development of Kazakhstan was completely connected or dictated by Russia. Together we walked earlier and it didn’t bother anyone but what we see now. no no yes makes changes to the existing way of life but why ???? But the answer can be seen in Lithuania, Latvia and now in Ukraine. And in a compartment with past statements, we can say that they will walk in Turkish.
    1. Onizuka teacher
      Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 34
      -2
      Quote: nemec55
      Oh, these aksakals.
      Less and less joys, I explain Kazakhstan most of its history was under or in Russian influence (figuratively) Generally speaking, the development of Kazakhstan was completely connected or dictated by Russia. Together we walked earlier and it didn’t bother anyone but what we see now. no no yes makes changes to the existing way of life but why ???? But the answer can be seen in Lithuania, Latvia and now in Ukraine. And in a compartment with past statements, we can say that they will walk in Turkish.

      Eh Petrusha also could not understand why archers and boyars with beards were needed. But then he canceled the old ways, when he realized what the drill step was for. The combat step was outdated, as were the beards of the boyars in their time.
      1. Dimit
        Dimit 5 February 2016 13: 58
        +4
        What is he like parsley, oligophrenic? This, as you put it, "parsley", put half of Europe with cancer when your relatives ate a mare in a ravine
        1. Onizuka teacher
          Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 16: 25
          -1
          Quote: Dimit
          What is he parsley, oligophrenic?

          Firstly Oleg. Secondly, Petrush is not an insult and he did not remove the serf decree.
          Quote: Dimit
          yours

          Do not poke, impolitely poke a stranger?
          Quote: Dimit
          relatives mare in the ravine finished eating

          My relatives, unlike yours, who served the nobility before moving to the steppe, were dispossessed and taken to death in the steppe for starvation.
          And my pimple stranger, be kind.
      2. sisa29
        sisa29 5 February 2016 14: 21
        +1
        I agree with you, a good example. In principle, today's disputes about the marching step are precisely caused by the presence of "boyars". Naturally, a person who gave part of his life to the army and who spent long hours on the parade ground will say that this is very important, necessary, beautiful, useful. And this person will be right, because otherwise he cannot think, because he put his strength and soul into it. To say that this is nonsense is a spit in his direction. Another thing is that those who did not spend minutes of their lives on combatants, they reason more pragmatically and these people are to some extent the same right.
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 5 February 2016 09: 47
    +9
    Here's to compare.

    1. Platonich
      Platonich 5 February 2016 10: 46
      +3
      This is beauty !!! Already the soul has become brighter and more fun! Hang on, RUSSIAN GO !!!
    2. Scandinavian
      Scandinavian 5 February 2016 11: 20
      +1
      Beauty and no words as the Russian army walks, and our Kazakh walked beautifully, until the recent decree of our nukeshka.
    3. guzik007
      guzik007 5 February 2016 12: 41
      +1
      Here's to compare.
      --------------------
      Here is a great explanation! Bravo, colleague!
  • maksim2609
    maksim2609 5 February 2016 09: 47
    12
    The combat line as such means that the “crowd” stopped fighting and the formation along the flanks appeared, the combat line became an obligatory part of discipline ...
    Let's cancel, combatant regulations, military greetings, military uniforms and turn into a militia or partisans ...
  • Miller
    Miller 5 February 2016 09: 53
    -1
    Correctly done that canceled. Kazakh people are stunted, try stamping with your feet 50 cm steps of 70-80 cm and even 110 steps per minute, it is difficult however.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 February 2016 09: 57
    +2
    And what do you Kazakhs suffer from garbage ..? That you have no more problems in the army .. Nazarbayev seems to have always been an adequate leader!
  • BOB044
    BOB044 5 February 2016 10: 09
    +4
    the step is important in the guard of honor, and most importantly, how you fight and how you can defend the country. After all, the step of the commandant regiment, now the presidential regiment does not affect the country's defense ability.
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 5 February 2016 12: 09
      +1
      Quote: BOB044
      the step is important in the guard of honor, and most importantly, how you fight and how you can defend the country. After all, the step of the commandant regiment, now the presidential regiment does not affect the country's defense ability.

      In secret, the commandant's and presidential’s are two different regiments, one in the Kremlin and the other on Krasnokazarmennaya.
  • Maksim
    Maksim 5 February 2016 10: 19
    +1
    Quote: maksim2609
    The combat line as such means that the “crowd” stopped fighting and the formation along the flanks appeared, the combat line became an obligatory part of discipline ...
    Let's cancel, combatant regulations, military greetings, military uniforms and turn into a militia or partisans ...

    How correctly noticed and answered
    Quote: activator
    And another one of the Israelis said that they did not have combat training in the army, and, strangely enough, they didn’t fight badly. If someone on the branch is from Israel, write so or not.
    laughing
  • PROXOR
    PROXOR 5 February 2016 10: 19
    10
    Spit on everyone. THIS IS NECESSARY !!!!!
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 5 February 2016 10: 26
      +6
      Quote: PROXOR
      Spit on everyone. THIS IS NECESSARY !!!!!

      That's for sure! Only in Russia they march victoriously! Everything else is a circus and clowning ...
      1. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 41
        -1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Everything else is circus and clowning ...

        USA, Israel is a circus and clowning?
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 5 February 2016 14: 28
          +3
          Quote: Onizuka's teacher
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Everything else is circus and clowning ...

          USA, Israel is a circus and clowning?

          That's right ... These armies are phantoms! They fight with money and the wrong hands!
        2. albert
          albert 5 February 2016 19: 39
          0
          Quote: Teacher Onizuka
          USA, Israel is a circus and clowning?

          Both.
  • vovan089
    vovan089 5 February 2016 10: 27
    0
    Why Ukrainians are silent about the marching step. It is interesting how they will jump in formation, embodying the principle "who does not jump is the one".
  • shimus
    shimus 5 February 2016 10: 28
    +1
    The march is okay, you google on the Internet how Indians shoot howitzers, that's YES, we are far from that! :)
    1. Drmadfisher
      Drmadfisher 5 February 2016 17: 04
      +1
      I almost fell under the table
  • brasist
    brasist 5 February 2016 10: 33
    +3
    Quote: Polar
    The fact is that among Kazakhs, like all nomads, their legs are crooked, and pulling a sock and minting a step for them can result in a fall in formation and dislocation of the knee. So they have to strain their elbasy Mosk, correct the military article. Do not trust ministers with strategic decisions



    In because of such talkative Russians as you and reproach that they stick their nose where it should not be ...
  • Vladimir
    Vladimir 5 February 2016 10: 33
    +4
    Whatever they say, the combatant step in the Soviet Army and in other armies that preserved it was, is and will be the most beautiful in the world. Yes, I agree that it is difficult to mint and pull a sock, but drill training does not allow the unit to turn into a herd of sheep.
  • Mera joota
    Mera joota 5 February 2016 10: 37
    -4
    What the hell is this shagistika really needed ... how does it affect fighting qualities? In my opinion, only time takes away from combat training. I remember how in 2000 the "bearded men" were admitted to the militia and began to drive them on a drill, these "Buratins" caused wild laughter in our country ... until we saw them shoot ...
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 5 February 2016 14: 54
      +3
      What the hell does this shagistics need ... how does it affect combat qualities?

      Who needs ??? YES TO ME EPT Here I served in due time and we had a couple of rams in our company who always went dirty and dirty, their foreman poured water on the street and brushed a tanker with a brush. So these pigs a month later, some dirty guys went. And everyone else went to the parade every clean neat hemmed day.
      So, the moral of this fable is that swine that I described from above there is nothing to be done, but a normal fighter needs everything so as not to defame the honor of the Russian war. (This is of course very short)
    2. Darwin
      Darwin 5 February 2016 15: 03
      +2
      Have you ever served, it seems that those who did not serve are against the combat line.
  • Koshak
    Koshak 5 February 2016 10: 53
    +1
    And here is the 19th century, the author is a participant in the defense of Sevastopol, the action of this part of the novel takes place in 1805.

    "- Songbooks forward! - the captain shouted.
    And twenty people ran out from different rows in front of the company. The drummer, singing, turned to face the songwriters, and, with a wave of his hand, he dragged on a long soldier’s song, beginning: “Don't you dawn, the sun was busy ...” and ending with the words: “That's it, brothers, glory to us with Kamensky father ...” This song was composed in Turkey and was now sung in Austria, only with the change that the words “Kutuzov father” were inserted in the place of “Kamensky father”.
    Tearing off these last words in a soldier’s way and waving his hands as if he were throwing something on the ground, the drummer, a dry and handsome soldier of about forty, looked around strictly at the songwriter and closed his eyes. Then, making sure that all eyes were fixed on him, he seemed to carefully raise an invisible, precious thing over his head with both hands, held it for several seconds, and suddenly threw it desperately:
    Ah, you canopy, canopy!
    "My new canopy ...", picked up twenty voices, and the spoon-maker, despite the weight of the ammunition, briskly jumped forward and went backwards in front of the company, moving his shoulders and threatening someone with spoons. The soldiers, swinging their arms to the beat of the song, walked with a spacious step, involuntarily falling into the leg. Behind the company came the sound of wheels, the crunching of springs and the stamping of horses. Kutuzov with his retinue was returning to the city. The commander-in-chief gave a sign that the people should continue to march at ease, and on his face and on all the faces of his retinue, pleasure was expressed at the sound of a song, at the sight of a dancing soldier and the company soldiers walking merrily and briskly. In the second row, from the right flank, from which the carriage overtook the companies, the blue-eyed soldier Dolokhov involuntarily caught the eye, who walked especially briskly and gracefully to the beat of the song and looked at the faces of those passing by with such an expression as if he pitied everyone who did not go at this time with the company. "
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 5 February 2016 11: 03
      0
      Whatever they say about the Prussian step, and so on, but Kazakhstan now remains the only real force among the countries of Central Asia of the former USSR and only it can stand together with Russia against the terrorist threat that emanates most from Afghanistan now.
      Kazakhstan made an interesting decision about the APC for its army.

      Beginning in 2015, the assembly of the Barys armored personnel carrier at the capacities of the Kazakhstan Paramount Engineering joint venture in Astana will begin in Kazakhstan.
      "Barys" (Mbombe) - wheeled combat vehicle developed by the South African Paramount Group
  • Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 5 February 2016 10: 55
    +1
    Quote: Alibekulu
    How are you still in Kazash ?!
    Do you have something against my stay here?
  • bad
    bad 5 February 2016 10: 58
    0
    here Indians burn laughing
  • koshmarik
    koshmarik 5 February 2016 11: 10
    +2
    East is a delicate matter. Well, if everything is limited by the height of the raising legs of the Kazakh warrior.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 February 2016 11: 11
    -1
    Quote: RESEARCHER
    The farewell of the Slavs at such a pace of walking can not be fulfilled.

    Rather, it will be difficult to fine-tune the drill string to the music (drill music is written to the pace of the step). Although they did not march to the "Farewell of the Slav", they only sang.
  • infantry76
    infantry76 5 February 2016 11: 13
    +2
    Kazakhstan decided to change its military regulations and "the flag in their hands."
    We do not have to fight with historical traditions in our army. They must be promoted in every possible way and ensured strict implementation. In my time (1972-2006), when I served in the USSR Armed Forces, and then in the RF Armed Forces, drill training was one of the main subjects, along with fire, tactical, technical, physical and other types of training. The phrase was in use that the formation disciplines a soldier (or a person). And the formation is not only the static standing of a soldier of an officer, squad, platoon, company, battalion, but also the ability to act in different positions - to move, give a military salute, act with weapons, move on the battlefield, etc. The so-called "Prussian step" introduced into the Russian army today has become our military tradition. And the point is not only that the drill step requires training and at the same time the expenditure of physical energy, which makes every soldier obligatory. This is our hallmark. We find out, for example, when the Indian army moves in parade, although it has retained the traditions of the British army. The most important thing is that our army has fewer "experimenters" and "innovators" in terms of getting rid of our army traditions. And the fact that some army is switching to its own standards of training and education of servicemen. then it is their sovereign right.
    I have the honor! soldier
  • Signaller
    Signaller 5 February 2016 11: 23
    +1
    Is that now in Kazakhstan will play other marches ????? All of our games that are played are approximately sharpened at a frequency of 120. And they will have to invent new marches or use from other countries. People composed, wrote, suffered, and with one stroke of a pen ....., the same Slavyanochka, sent to an unknown destination, a march from the Belorussky railway station, also no longer rolls at their rhythm. Not ... the person did not think of our composers. Well, what money now needs to be invested to bring everything to the proper rhythm ????
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 5 February 2016 11: 56
    0
    They just don’t want to keep up with Russia ...
    Fair wind ...
  • fa2998
    fa2998 5 February 2016 12: 14
    +2
    Quote: Shuttle
    A great step, a soldier is well disciplined.
    After all, the whole essence, all the salt, the whole philosophy of drill training is an integral part of which is the drill step is the cultivation of self-control, awareness in each of its actions.

    Drilling lessons are the cheapest way to keep soldiers, so they don’t get lazy! Especially if there are a lot of soldiers (conscripts), and they are cheap (e.g. 7 rubles / month). There is still political information, but this is being prepared, and who it can fall asleep! In order to be engaged in the real business, BATTLE PREPARATION, we need ammunition, shells, fuel, equipment and much more. Of course, in a contract army, paying people good money, so that they make circles on the parade ground is unprofitable. hi
  • pts-m
    pts-m 5 February 2016 12: 25
    +2
    Look, all the former "friends" of Russia are trying to distinguish themselves. Let them walk like a crowd of wandering prisoners of war. Let them turn to their history, where these reformers' ancestors rode only donkeys and horses. Everyone is free in their choice.
  • brotishka
    brotishka 5 February 2016 12: 27
    +1
    "Good in the ranks - strong in battle!" - I think it's time to change it.
    Nursultan Abishevich did the right thing. Although it was possible to leave the "Prussian step" for the ceremonial crews and the guard of honor, the beauty is incomparable.
    Combat training is an integral part of army life, and I agree, disciplines soldiers. But the combat step is an unnecessarily difficult movement to assimilate, and even harmful to the knees. It takes him a very large amount of time to work out, it would be better to run around. It is enough to teach you to step in the foot, keep alignment, do not twist your heads, move in formation. The system disciplines a soldier, but not a combat step. And due to the fact that it is necessary to constantly practice marching as part of units, soldiers, in the armies of the former USSR, he spends a disproportionate amount of time in the ranks on the parade ground. Whereas a real battle requires dispersal on the ground. After a many-day drill drill at the KMB, when we were first deployed in a tactical training class, I felt naked. And the problems were always much greater when deploying in pre-battle and battle formation on the ground than passing boxes on the parade ground. Although the second usually takes ten times more time than the first.
    Many more with hostility perceive the performance of the drill song. Even as one of the incarnations of military moronism. You can argue, but after a long army day, I always liked to walk and scream a song. Few things relieve stress so well. Then you fall asleep like a dead man!
  • Onizuka teacher
    Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 12: 48
    -7
    So, judging by the comments saturated with chauvinism and their own superiority in other nations, you begin to understand that the Russians have degraded and there will be no USSR 2. NAS did not throw you, although it should have left you cooked in its muddy juices.
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 5 February 2016 13: 18
      +3
      Quote: Onizuka's teacher
      , although it should have left you boiled in their muddy juices.

      mdaaa..that you couldn’t cook in your own way, drove out the Russians, Germans, inviting the oralmans, and you understood where the good and evil are, the testament of the Russian speakers back, and the program for the resettlement of the oralmans was closed.
      1. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 5 February 2016 13: 45
        -3
        Quote: alpamys
        mdaaa..that you couldn’t cook in your own way, drove out the Russians, Germans, inviting the oralmans, and you understood where the good and evil are, the testament of the Russian speakers back, and the program for the resettlement of the oralmans was closed.

        Dismiss Nobody chased me and my family in the Republic of Kazakhstan. In general, Russians conduct medium-sized businesses in Karaganda and Almaat, it is not necessary to persecute and persecute Russians about tales. And the oralmans were really in vain invited.
    2. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 5 February 2016 14: 02
      0
      Quote: Teacher Onizuka
      and there will be no USSR 2.

      And don’t dream, Russia doesn’t need this ballast and fuck, and those who foolishly believe that the abolition of the combatant step is deeply mistaken, this happened much earlier in relation to the Russians in Kazakhstan, and this is simply making life easier for Kazakh warriors. Well, it’s hard for them to go this step, they are not warriors of the empire and this ritual is useless to them.
  • valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 5 February 2016 13: 18
    +2
    Let them go as they want. The main thing is to come with us.
  • alpamys
    alpamys 5 February 2016 13: 34
    +1
    Chileans are also those reenactors)))



  • Polevik
    Polevik 5 February 2016 13: 47
    +2
    Do you need a drill step? I think the majority will agree - everyone needs it. Another question is how much, and due to what. From personal experience: One unit commander focused on physically, shooting, TSP, field exits. A new on the drill, and the eternal marathon of the location of the unit. Guess what? What do you think would be able to effectively fulfill the part (if necessary) of the combat mission? Maybe yes, but only at the expense of senior prizes (while there were) and due to huge losses. Yes, with the new regiment, the part looked like a picture, but God forbid getting into a serious mess. Meat. Just meat.
  • Roust
    Roust 5 February 2016 14: 15
    +2
    Whoever in his youth walked on the paving stones on Red Square at the Military Parade and at the same time held the base of the butt of the carbine in the palm of his left hand so that it did not touch the shoulder, or simply had "excellent" in drill training, he will print a beautiful combat step in retirement ... The beauty and strength of the legs of our military is trained precisely through such a step. The Kazakh president is hinting at small steps "away" from the Kremlin. Oh well...
  • evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 5 February 2016 14: 19
    +1
    This is not a "Prussian" but a "ceremonial" solemn step.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 5 February 2016 14: 32
      +3
      Quote: evge-malyshev
      This is not a "Prussian" but a "ceremonial" solemn step.

      Well, prove to the Kazakhs! They know everything ... laughing
  • Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 5 February 2016 14: 59
    +1
    Yes, they want to cancel this business, they want to personally introduce their movement to me equally.
  • Roust
    Roust 5 February 2016 15: 52
    0
    Quote: PSih2097
    Quote: Pravdarm
    The coolest are the creeping Greeks

    Change of guard India-Pakistan ...

    By the way, Beautiful, but ... NOT EAGLES ... AS OUR HONORARY SECURITY.
  • Enky
    Enky 5 February 2016 21: 12
    0
    Quote: Mahmut
    What a tragedy. How now Kazakhstan will interact in joint military exercises with the Russian army. The pace of the step is not the same, the sock does not stretch - this is the direct path to defeat.

    It is probably pleasant for couch patriots to observe from the side how the guard of honor dances out there. I had a friend, he served in the regiment named after Dzerzhinsky. So he told how his bones began to rot from many hours of training. He was warned that if he didn’t take care of himself, they would cut off in five years. Well, he didn’t let his legs cut, but just drowned. There was a beautiful little devil, any quadrille on the move. And how many such young handsome guys because of the Prussian step crippled because of the Kremlin Ponte. There will be enough health for two years, and what will happen to a person after that - nobody cares.

    For those who did not serve in the army and judges from the stories of hysterical mothers, like a doctor, I’ll explain that their legs do not rot due to drill, but from violation of the rules of basic hygiene and shoes not in size.
  • VIT101
    VIT101 6 February 2016 07: 22
    +1
    Yes, we do not know how in the bulk of their march. Sometimes it's even sickening to watch. They just can't keep up. There is a construction of 100 people - "some in the forest, some for firewood." At least they learned to walk at a marching pace. Even in Moscow, at the parade, some of the boxes have front and rear ranks out of time. And the marching step in the army somewhere is generally a parody. The leg is crocheted, the movement of the hands is a laugh. Than such a marching step is better without it at all. Teaching some is useless.
    Of course, the exception is the guard of honor company. You can admire these.