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The Armed Forces General Staff published a report on the events in the Debaltsevsky cauldron: "The Ukrainian army stopped the Russian Armed Forces, advancing on Kharkov"

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The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine published a report on how, according to the version of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, events developed near the village of Debaltseve. At the same time in the General Staff and today the events of January-February 2015 of the year are called events on the “Debaltsev bridgehead”. The report states that 136 of Ukrainian soldiers were killed on the “bridgehead”, 331 was injured, 7 was captured, 18 went missing.


The material of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine states that in the area of ​​the settlement of Debaltseve, up to 30% of military equipment belonging to the Armed Forces of Ukraine was destroyed or incapacitated.

Not without a statement that the Ukrainian army opposed the "armed forces of the Russian Federation." The material of the Ukrainian General Staff states that “Russian-terrorist troops” (a term written by the Maidan “experts”) planned after the fighting near the city of Debaltseve to break through to Artyomovsk, and then, no less, to take Kharkov. “Take Kharkov”, as it turns out, was hampered by two factors: “the persistent defense of the fighters of the Ukrainian army” and “depletion of the enemy’s forces”. This statement alone makes it possible to perceive the report of Mr. Muzhenko’s department as a fantastic piece of literature from the category of works of an absurdist writer.

The Armed Forces General Staff published a report on the events in the Debaltsevsky cauldron: "The Ukrainian army stopped the Russian Armed Forces, advancing on Kharkov"


In general, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine assigned the blame for the retreat from the “Debaltsevskiy bridgehead” to the very fighters who “steadfastly defended”. The article says that a number of Ukrainian units "untimely reacted to the movement of the enemy." Named and specific units that disrupted the operation of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the "complete and unconditional peremog."

Of material:
At a time when the enemy had concentrated the maximum amount of forces and means in the Debaltseve area, the 57-th separate motorized infantry brigade was assigned the task of conducting assault actions and taking Gorlovka. But the team has not budged.

The personnel of the combined detachment of the 3-th and 8-th separate special forces regiments, which were supposed to ensure the withdrawal of units from the Debaltsevo area, as a result of physical and moral exhaustion refused to perform the tasks, independently changing them and leaving without orders to safe areas.


So who was more "exhausted": the Ukrainian army or the enemy? ..

As an intermediate output GSU VSU:
When it became clear that it was impossible to keep Debaltseve, it was decided to move the units to safe areas. During the Debaltsev operation, for the first time a large number of troops were withdrawn from enemy attacks.


In general, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine actions of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine itself on the "withdrawal of a large number of troops" were recognized as successful. Who would doubt that...
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 4 February 2016 16: 04 New
    19
    There is not only this card. Here is the link, you can use the translator. The link is long, check the spaces.
    http://www.mil.gov.ua/analitichni-materiali/analiz-generalno-shtabu-zsu-shhodo-b


    ojovih-dij-na-debalczevskomu-placzdarmi-z-27-sichnya-do-18-lyutogo-2015-roku.htm


    l

    Rostashuvannya regular pidrozdіlіv Zbroynyh forces of the Russian Federation.
    laughing
    Up to eight divisive reactive and artillery guns of the RF ZS blazed close to the Lower Krinka, Toreza, Fascivka, Stakhanov, Bryanka, Alchevsk, Seleznivka, and the sound was raised to the position of the Ukrainian state.
    Up to eight battalion tactical groups of the Zbroyny forces of the Russian Federation were bored in the middle of the hourly payback territory of Ukraine close to Debaltsevy:
    20-a district of the motor-construction brigade (metro Volgograd) of the Pivdenny Vіisky District - near the district of Gorlivka;
    21-a district of the motor-construction brigade of the 2nd army of the Central Vijsk district (village of Totskє, Orenburzka oblast) - near the district of Єnakіvvy;
    28th okrug of the motor-construction brigade of the 2nd Army of the Central Vijsk District (metro Yekaterinburg) - near the Bryanka and Stakhanov district;
    32-a district of the motor-construction brigade of the Central Vіisky okrug (village of Shilovo, Novosibirsk region) - near the Єnakіgvogo district;
    138-a district of the motor-construction brigade (Kamєnka, Leningrad Oblast) of the 6th Army of the Zakhіdny Vіisky District - near the Sіnizhny i ​​Toreza District;
    200th okrema of the motor-construction brigade (Pechenga) of the Pivnichniy fleet of the Revised Strategic Command “Pivnich” - at the district of Fashchivka, Nikishin, Kumshatsk;
    13th Panzer Regiment of the 4th Tank Division of the 1st Tank Army of the Zakhidny Viiisky District (Naro-Fominsk) - near the districts of Novosvitlivka, Kirovsky, Onakovy;
    The 104th Airborne Assault Regiment of the 76th Airborne Assault Division (c. Cheryokha, Pskov Oblast) The Second Airborne Assault Regiment is located at the Georgiivtsi and Gorlivtsi.
    Close to Torez, Snezhny, Shakhtarska, Donetsk boulevards burst into flames for the need for prototype defense and radio electronic warfare of regular military forces of the Russian Federation.




    1. Tor5
      Tor5 4 February 2016 16: 07 New
      +2
      Well, at all patients "hospital number 6". They don't even really know how to lie ...
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 4 February 2016 16: 14 New
        +7
        Yes, it’s just - rot, dy!
        1. meriem1
          meriem1 4 February 2016 16: 43 New
          11
          Quote: Baikonur
          Yes, it’s just - rot, dy!

          Yes, just rzhaka !!!! Here they were let go)))) a little. ... and they began to write fables smile
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 4 February 2016 17: 21 New
            +9
            Quote: meriem1
            Quote: Baikonur
            Yes, it’s just - rot, dy!

            Yes, just rzhaka !!!! Here they were let go)))) a little. ... and they began to write fables smile

            All you have is rzhaka. And on these fables the History will be written. Yes, yes with a capital letter. After 20 years, everyone will know her. There will also be Heroes. And not a hundred but the Cagort, the Phalanx, stood up against the chest ..., well, those that cannot be called, and did not let go. And they will all sigh, it was a glorious time.
            I also neighing here. But it will be so if not corrected by action.
            1. tupolev-95
              tupolev-95 4 February 2016 18: 25 New
              +2
              There will be no history. There will be different interpretations - as many as you like. But History cannot be changed. It already was - and this can not be changed.
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            3. alauda1038
              alauda1038 5 February 2016 09: 12 New
              0
              it's unlikely that the heroes of the atom are already in the rear for a quiet beating
          2. kryuger.mark
            kryuger.mark 4 February 2016 20: 29 New
            +1
            Well Ukrainians then believe in it, but this is important.
            1. major147
              major147 4 February 2016 20: 34 New
              0
              We do not understand, but for neither it is such a rare kind of victory.
          3. RDX
            RDX 5 February 2016 02: 54 New
            +1
            fierce great grunts)))
      2. Gxash
        Gxash 4 February 2016 16: 20 New
        +1
        Storytellers !!! A whole ministry of storytellers, led by the Glaznazochnik - Petka-bastard with a chocolate egg!
        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 4 February 2016 16: 22 New
          +1
          This is not a fairy tale! These are schizophrenic glitches!
          “Take Kharkov”, as it turns out, was prevented by two factors: “persistent defense of the soldiers of the Ukrainian army” and “exhaustion of the enemy’s forces”
          There it is! The RF Armed Forces are exhausted!
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 4 February 2016 16: 39 New
            31
            Quote: Pravdarm
            The RF Armed Forces are exhausted!


            Still we would not be exhausted. According to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, the Russian-occupying forces lost:
            - Three Buryat cavalry divisions;
            - Three Pskov airborne divisions;
            - three tank armies of Kantemirov-Taman;
            - three military districts of the north-south;
            - GRU special forces ..., three pieces! lol fool

            What after such a loss attack on Kharkov? There is already nothing for Moscow to defend, let alone for Rostov!
            1. Belgorod
              Belgorod 4 February 2016 18: 03 New
              +4
              Have you forgotten two aircraft carriers?
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 4 February 2016 18: 47 New
                14
                Quote: Belgorod
                Have you forgotten two aircraft carriers?


                Then three already!
                Three domestic aircraft carrier!
                All...! Everything that is acquired by excessive labor, everything went to dust!

                And they still fight for the high rank, houses of culture and life, ugh you, countries of a victorious democracy!
                1. Ze Kot
                  Ze Kot 5 February 2016 13: 56 New
                  0
                  What about submarines?
            2. Black Colonel
              Black Colonel 4 February 2016 18: 19 New
              0
              There is no information about "Cheburashek". Apparently, their dill was taken apart into bolts and nuts.
              1. Mugerets
                Mugerets 4 February 2016 18: 52 New
                +1
                On the ears and paws. smile
            3. alauda1038
              alauda1038 5 February 2016 09: 15 New
              0
              do not lie the great Ukrainians with their own words destroyed the entire Russian army to be more precise Russia in the Donbass lost 480 people killed (only killed) and this is not counting technology laughing
          2. zanoza
            zanoza 4 February 2016 16: 40 New
            +3
            Well, what can you say about the report. I want to shrug my hands in surprise request and then twist a finger at the temple fool.
            Even, which the top of the Banderlog stuffed their people for a whole year, was given an "official" status.
            Having completely lost the winter campaign of 2015, they decided to give a "victorious" look to escape from the boiler. They say the Russians were stopped, they did not allow Kharkov to be taken, Europe was saved (for Western ears) and all this with little blood (???).
            Morons!
          3. major147
            major147 4 February 2016 20: 35 New
            +1
            "Take Kharkov" and why not Paris?
        2. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 4 February 2016 16: 32 New
          15
          Y-yes ...! So think, "and sho tse bulo" ?! Either a splendid overpowering, or overweight? To be honest, I'm already confused!
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 4 February 2016 16: 44 New
            24
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Y-yes ...! So think, "and sho tse bulo" ?! Either a splendid overpowering, or overweight? To be honest, I'm already confused!

            And you are not alone.
            The whole sane world is at a loss, except for dill
            1. alauda1038
              alauda1038 5 February 2016 09: 17 New
              0
              for this picture on the FB block for a month
          2. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 4 February 2016 18: 23 New
            11
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            So think, "and sho tse bulo" ?! Either a splendid overpowering, or overweight?

            Let's remember what it really was!
        3. sevsor
          sevsor 4 February 2016 17: 34 New
          +9
          The fact that they are storytellers is undoubtedly BUT! All my friends / acquaintances and relatives who "have the good fortune" to live in an independent area, all polls are convinced that the Russian army is fighting in the Donbass, that the "staunch lads" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are smashing the occupiers and saving the country ((I initially tried to talk to them like in fact, things are going, but ... they live in an anti-Russian, anti-Russian atmosphere - there is TV, radio, newspapers, posters, conversations in everyday life, etc. - makes them, living there, believe the "storytellers", how would we they were not mocked at them and laughed at ((And it is not known whether they will see their sight someday, in any case, the consciousness of two generations of Ukrainians is irrevocably poisoned ((
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 4 February 2016 18: 22 New
            +5
            "... in any case, the consciousness of two generations of Ukrainians has been irretrievably poisoned ((..."
            It is what it is. I was convinced by the example of relatives of friends from Belaya Kalitva.
            1. major147
              major147 4 February 2016 20: 40 New
              0
              If anything, Belaya Kalitva is Russia.
          2. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 4 February 2016 19: 05 New
            -4
            Quote: sevsor
            there TV, radio, newspapers, posters, everyday conversations, etc.

            All these TVs poison life for us and them.
          3. alauda1038
            alauda1038 5 February 2016 12: 46 New
            0
            when the hero of the atom on the FB you ask a simple question: why don’t they attack you through Kharkov right away, well, if you give a hint about aviation or tactical missile systems, then atas
      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 4 February 2016 17: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: Tor5
        Well, at all patients "hospital number 6". They don't even really know how to lie ...

        Well no. They don’t lie. They see so.
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 4 February 2016 17: 46 New
          +4
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Well no. They don’t lie. They see so.

          they see through the glasses prescribed by the phasington regional committee
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 4 February 2016 18: 23 New
            +1
            They just have NO OTHER GLASSES, but these cannot be removed.
            1. Lukich
              Lukich 4 February 2016 19: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: Black Colonel
              They just have NO OTHER GLASSES, but these cannot be removed.

              not allowed
      4. crambol
        crambol 4 February 2016 17: 55 New
        +2
        Hospital 6 is full! Urgently open numbers 66 and 666!
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    2. Tor5
      Tor5 4 February 2016 16: 07 New
      0
      Well, at all patients "hospital number 6". They don't even really know how to lie ...
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 4 February 2016 16: 12 New
        11
        This statement alone makes it possible to perceive the report of the department of Mr. Muzhenko as a fantastic reading matter from the category of works of an absurd writer.

        I think the reference book of the chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine V. Muzhenko is this
      2. kil 31
        kil 31 4 February 2016 16: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: Tor5
        136 Ukrainian soldiers were killed on the bridgehead

        So they lie each on their own. There is no single lie. Petya, for example, said that 25 of these died
        136 Ukrainian soldiers were killed on the bridgehead
        Who to believe? Commander-in-Chief or G.Sh.
        1. udincev
          udincev 4 February 2016 16: 20 New
          +3
          Believe both. They’re talking about different bridgeheads.
          True, the bridgeheads have no real relation to the "Debaltsevskiy pot". But who's looking at such little things when
          For the first time, a large number of troops were withdrawn from enemy attacks

          But where to tap, again did not specify.
          But most were added to the "Heavenly Hundred"
        2. Serg81
          Serg81 4 February 2016 17: 00 New
          +3
          So 7 people were captured, I watched a report of one of the roscanals there in only one village, about 20 people were captured
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    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 4 February 2016 16: 08 New
      +5
      And not Kharkov, but Pluto, and not "Russian-terrorist troops", but imperial attack aircraft ... er, squirrel, squirrel ... wassat
    4. Saburov
      Saburov 4 February 2016 16: 10 New
      0
      In my opinion there is not a withdrawal of troops, but an entry into the Debaltsevsky cauldron due to the headaches of the Ukrainian command ... they were still unfortunate that they were released from there.
    5. Furious bambr
      Furious bambr 4 February 2016 16: 27 New
      +3
      Almost our entire army was in Hohland ?! But why were they confused and did not conquer Kursk, Voronezh, etc.? And with what fright the Russian Armed Forces should have stepped out of the Debaltsev bag, when from Belgorod to Kharkov just a stone's throw? And the second blow from the side of Valuek - and cut off another piece of territory so as not to build a new railway. Well, that’s it, thoughts out loud ... And how beautiful it sounds and looks - Debaltsevsky bridgehead! This is probably taught in Ukrainian academies to create a bridgehead in a tactical environment?
    6. Serg81
      Serg81 4 February 2016 16: 55 New
      +3
      The 13th Tank Regiment of the 4th Tank Division of the 1st Tank Army of the Zakhidny Viiisk District (Naro-Fominsk) - near the districts of Novosvitlivka, Kirovsky, Signature - this is the 1st ha. the tank army has only recently been formed, how could its units fight a year ago ???
    7. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 4 February 2016 17: 06 New
      +1
      I don’t understand. (Style can not stand)
      Why are the valiant APU red? I see treason. I suggest finding and punishing, in fear of the enemies.
    8. kagorta
      kagorta 4 February 2016 17: 21 New
      +1
      And what are they, they draw cards in Soviet traditions. Myself in red. It’s not right, we should tell them that we should draw ourselves in blue, like in our beloved west by them. laughing
    9. Juborg
      Juborg 4 February 2016 19: 02 New
      +2
      What kind of storytellers? Not one army in the world will not attack without aircraft and massive suppression of strong points. That in Debaltsev was not on either side. HIKE THIS IS A STUPID JUSTIFICATION, MORE LIKE A BAD JOKE.
    10. German Titov
      German Titov 4 February 2016 20: 08 New
      +1
      Here's a bdliin. And all in invisible hats. Well this is what a force. And what about the "horse-Buryat" OMON was no longer there? And the division "Cheburak-Chebureshek" was not indicated.
    11. Bath
      Bath 5 February 2016 11: 46 New
      0
      it seems that the mapu was malevated by the Malpa in a compartment with Zdykhlik calm)))
    12. mamont5
      mamont5 5 February 2016 11: 55 New
      0
      This is how the "true" (petty) history of Ukraine (Ruins) is written.
  2. Putinets
    Putinets 4 February 2016 16: 05 New
    +4
    Damn, winter, fly agaric seems to be too early.
    In general, it resembles the memoir writings of Hitler's generals. Especially super this is "
    During the Debaltsev operation, a large number of troops were withdrawn from enemy attacks for the first time.
    "
    The Germans did not think of such a thing. They are increasingly reducing the front
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 4 February 2016 16: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Putin
      Damn, winter, fly agaric seems to be too early.

      This is a collection of Ukrainian fairy tales from the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine for young children. It spits the tales of the Brothers Grimm and the tales of Andersen combined. Laughing is allowed.
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 4 February 2016 18: 26 New
      0
      "They have more and more shrinking front"
      A bit wrong. There was a "front line alignment". Although one does not contradict the other.
  3. horoh
    horoh 4 February 2016 16: 05 New
    +1
    Indeed, the experiment on the decontamination of the population can be considered successful.
  4. salad
    salad 4 February 2016 16: 08 New
    0
    laughing Ukropeteki as usual))))) why did not see the underground boats ?? and moles of killers of podra wassat vnikov?
  5. Riv
    Riv 4 February 2016 16: 09 New
    +2
    Yes ... Goebbels spins in hell in a frying pan, remembering the 43rd year and fiercely, enviously envious.
  6. kapitan92
    kapitan92 4 February 2016 16: 10 New
    +4
    ".... In general, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine recognized the actions of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the" withdrawal of a large number of troops "as successful" ...
    Therefore, Ukrainian generals have chests in orders! They don’t forget themselves. negative
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    2. DMoroz
      DMoroz 4 February 2016 16: 25 New
      +8
      "... Therefore, the Ukrainian generals have their chest in orders! They do not forget themselves."
  7. Pereira
    Pereira 4 February 2016 16: 10 New
    +7
    Is there anything about a blow from the Debaltsevsky boiler to Moscow? I remember how I ran to the store to save vodka in a panic, when they started talking about Ukr shushpantsers on the Moscow Ring Road.
    1. Persistent
      Persistent 4 February 2016 16: 24 New
      +2
      Is there nothing about the blow from the Debaltsevsky boiler to Moscow? I remember how I fled in a panic when they started talking about Ukrainian shushpanzery on the Moscow Ring Road.

      Well, since they went around Russia in 16 days on a steam locomotive to China. belay , two hours is enough to Moscow !!!! laughing
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 4 February 2016 17: 39 New
        +1
        Especially if they attack from the side of Arkhangelsk through secretly dug tunnels.
  8. sir_obs
    sir_obs 4 February 2016 16: 11 New
    +1
    Real virtuality.
  9. Koronik
    Koronik 4 February 2016 16: 14 New
    +2
    Priurki, in a word, and such people lead the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Yes, he does not lead people, they are scared to trust a herd of sheep.
  10. AlexTires
    AlexTires 4 February 2016 16: 14 New
    0
    Ukrainian realities or how to make zrada I can .... belay
  11. _my opinion
    _my opinion 4 February 2016 16: 15 New
    +2
    The Armed Forces General Staff published a report on the events in the Debaltsevsky cauldron: "The Ukrainian army stopped the Russian Armed Forces, advancing on Kharkov"

    yeah, that's just not possible to find the regular Russian Armed Forces present there ...
    toli with a fright, or with a cross, seems APU ...
  12. AID.S
    AID.S 4 February 2016 16: 18 New
    0
    "136 Ukrainian servicemen were killed at the" bridgehead ", 331 were wounded, 7 were taken prisoner, 18 were missing."
    At least you need to multiply by 10 ...
    1. dyksi
      dyksi 4 February 2016 16: 28 New
      +3
      Yes, they ran so that they left the wounded on stretchers in the cold, which is why they died, "heroes". How many cars and armored vehicles tried to jump out of the boiler and were burned. All their heroic defense is on YouTube, in all its "glory" and details.
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 4 February 2016 18: 58 New
      0
      Total 7 prisoners? Only one group took so much.
      Here is a real photo.
  13. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 4 February 2016 16: 19 New
    +3
    The Ukroin army is not the hour of the famine that fled to Russia in hundreds to surrender? wassat
  14. izya top
    izya top 4 February 2016 16: 20 New
    +4
    the nibbler on the nibbler and the nibbler chases
  15. vadimtt
    vadimtt 4 February 2016 16: 22 New
    +1
    "Specific divisions are also named, which lied operation of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "- a Freudian slip? laughing
  16. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 4 February 2016 16: 23 New
    0
    So can really think about Kharkov, since kakly morally ready for this? And at the same time about Odessa :)
  17. andranick
    andranick 4 February 2016 16: 29 New
    +9
    Well what can I say, Lavrov uttered the eternal ...
    1. 2С5
      2С5 4 February 2016 17: 18 New
      +2
      ... we live in a time when lies are all around, and telling the truth is extremism ...
      George Orwell (Merikos in short)
  18. Temer
    Temer 4 February 2016 16: 30 New
    0
    And how many waterfighting horse-Buryat police tanks were knocked out?
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 4 February 2016 16: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Temer
      And how many waterfighting horse-Buryat police tanks were knocked out?

      You also forgot the Buryat-Mongolian heavy Armor-hoofed Brigade, completely armed with Genghis Khan, for which the Ukropitheks demanded compensation from Mongolia for the damage caused.
  19. PBF
    PBF 4 February 2016 16: 30 New
    +1
    At a time when the enemy had concentrated the maximum amount of forces and means in the Debaltseve area, the 57-th separate motorized infantry brigade was assigned the task of conducting assault actions and taking Gorlovka. But the team has not budged.

    The personnel of the combined detachment of the 3rd and 8th separate special-purpose regiments, which were supposed to ensure the withdrawal of units from the Debaltseve area, as a result of physical and moral exhaustion refused to carry out tasks, changing them independently and leaving without orders in a safe area


    And then they didn’t shoot anyone, didn’t put him under tribunal, and didn’t put him in an iron cage. It’s strange.

    Claimed losses must be multiplied by 10 or 100 to get the truth?
  20. potalevl
    potalevl 4 February 2016 16: 30 New
    +1
    After the report of storytellers from the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the storytellers from NATO nervously smoke on the sidelines.
  21. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 4 February 2016 16: 31 New
    +2
    The battle of Thermopylae --- I know, the battle of Gaugamela --- I know. Now I will also know the Debaltsev operation.
    For the first time, a large number of troops were withdrawn from enemy attacks.
    The generalissimo of remarkable leadership talent command the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    P.S. But nevertheless they cleverly defeated us. Once, they got out of the attack ....
  22. Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 4 February 2016 16: 32 New
    +3
    Tom Clancy nervously smokes on the sidelines, but with his "wild" imagination, you can't write that. The impudence of Ukrainians has no chapel. If earlier I thought that it would be good to live in one state, Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. Now only in a bad dream. God forbid such "brothers" ...
  23. Stinger
    Stinger 4 February 2016 16: 34 New
    +2
    In, give! Directly disabled people.
    I took Kharkov
    I shed blood in bags.
    With an empty grenade under the broken tank, he rushed
    1. HAM
      HAM 4 February 2016 16: 44 New
      +1
      They used mainly silenced grenades ... lol
  24. KBR109
    KBR109 4 February 2016 16: 41 New
    +2
    And I BELIEVE! Otherwise, where to find the reason for the appearance in Ukraine right away as many as two army generals with marshal epaulets, wassat where the stars in pursuit do not fit completely - the rays below hang. lol Front-line operation - no less !!! Again - there were 200 thousand invaders - there are 8. left. Well, prove to me that this is not a victory? drinks
  25. Gloomy Hedgehog
    Gloomy Hedgehog 4 February 2016 16: 44 New
    0
    I haven’t had such fun for a long time, the plot was probably stolen from G. Wales)))))))
  26. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 4 February 2016 16: 46 New
    +1
    The personnel of the combined detachment of the 3-th and 8-th separate special forces regiments, which were supposed to ensure the withdrawal of units from the Debaltsevo area, as a result of physical and moral exhaustion refused to perform the tasks, independently changing them and leaving without orders to safe areas.

    By the way, here is the confirmation of the above.
    On our website, after the Debaltsevo events, an article was published "Tank battle near Debaltseve became hell for the Armed Forces of Ukraine" (http://topwar.ru/69410-tankovyy-boy-pod-debalcevo-stal-adom-dlya-vsu.html) in February 2015.
    Here it is discussed on the site "Alternative History", and a participant in those events from ukrostorony:
    Published by waldemaar08 on Sat, 21/02/2015 - 09:26.
    Well, I’ll write a little, as an eyewitness and a direct participant ...
    We entered Debaltseve on the night of 13-14, entered in a roundabout way, along country roads, accompanied a convoy of ammunition, then defended the station, which the DNR gunners smashed into the trash (this is about the fact that the militia does not shoot at residential areas). we went to the artillery attack without losses (a great merit in this is mine. Without false modesty. I am very grateful to my officers that they listened to me unconditionally, despite my rank and position. As a result, my battalion left Debchik in full force and with standard weapons) After the station we settled at the checkpoint near the bridge. Attacks were repulsed, and on the night from 17th to 18th they went to a breakthrough. From our column, losses were 1 tank, 1 BMP, 1 BRDM, 1 BTR-4,2 armored KrAZ and non-four-wheel drive vehicles (I had to abandon because they were not able to drive over rough terrain) I will not say about the losses of personnel, I do not have information. According to our consolidated detachment, I can say that the 1st (my) battalion is without losses, 2 light "300". "2nd baht-19 person with unknown status.
    After leaving my officers for two days I was stupidly watered for leading the group. They wrote a presentation for an award, but I got a little "fi

    This ukrovoen, it seems, is from these "special regiments" (I read his comments on websites related to his service).
    In general, in his presentation and the presentation of other "odnokotteltsy" - they heroically defended themselves and retreated under the onslaught of superior hordes, and the higher chiefs truncated .. And in the presentation of their superiors it is quite the opposite. And it turns out, with all their frank and impudent lies - both are right.
  27. 4ekist
    4ekist 4 February 2016 16: 46 New
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    Quote: Gxash
    Storytellers !!! A whole ministry of storytellers, led by the Glaznazochnik - Petka-bastard with a chocolate egg!

    We already passed it. The same eggs, only a view from the side.
  28. O. Bender
    O. Bender 4 February 2016 16: 46 New
    +1
    The word MAPA (map in normal) was amused, obviously from the English Mar. And here the language was distorted by the Mavps (according to normal monkeys). The Mavps were drawn ..... A little off topic, but in the late 90s, coming to Ukraine on vacation, always watched the first days drunkenly ukrtv especially Mexican serials translated into Ukrainian. I whinnied innocently until cramps in my side and stomach. It was amusing to watch the news, and when the presenter said, "at once I’m listening to the hearing device (phone), I had a full orgasm and I started to grimace and improvise: the cramps walked and t d field for improvisation unplowed ..
    1. German Titov
      German Titov 4 February 2016 20: 45 New
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      And, "do not kill uvagi." This is in Novourinsk - "MAPA" - "MAP", "POLITSIANTI" - "HAREM AVAKYAN". Where is there, with our knowledge of "Soviet education".
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 4 February 2016 20: 51 New
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        Quote: German Titov
        And, "do not kill uvagi." This is in Novourinsk - "MAPA" - "MAP", "POLITSIANTI" - "HAREM AVAKYAN". Where is there, with our knowledge of "Soviet education".

        let me clarify ... this is not the Ukrainian language, but Galician with a Canadian accent.
  29. engineer74
    engineer74 4 February 2016 16: 51 New
    +1
    And what kind of locomotive with wagons is there, on the right side of the map? BZHRK?what
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 4 February 2016 17: 05 New
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      Quote: engineer74
      And what kind of locomotive with wagons is there, on the right side of the map? BZHRK?

      This is a heroic armored train of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which managed to break through the "Debaltsevsky boiler".
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 4 February 2016 17: 30 New
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        And moving from east to west? Which one is from China, "bypassing" Russia? With a time machine on board! smile
        But seriously, what does the train mean? what
  30. Conscience
    Conscience 4 February 2016 17: 03 New
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    the diagnosis is one - LOSHARA MI CONTARI
    what feed them there?
    experiments were conducted clearly and tenaciously over them.
    I wonder how historians will describe this moment of history on ukroin?
    Crazies seized power?
  31. tralmaster.
    tralmaster. 4 February 2016 17: 19 New
    +1
    But they are telling the truth at the General Staff that the burial of the people was successful. The Americans are loyal.
  32. Belarus
    Belarus 4 February 2016 17: 35 New
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    The Armed Forces General Staff published a report on the events in the Debaltsevsky cauldron: "The Ukrainian army stopped the Russian Armed Forces, advancing on Kharkov"


    What can you say here: these "geniuses" are good at turning upside down. But what is most interesting is that there are those who believe this.
  33. sw6513
    sw6513 4 February 2016 17: 35 New
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    All the almighty fables are so absurd, sometimes it seems that there are only downs or teenagers with a limited mind.
  34. triglav
    triglav 4 February 2016 17: 47 New
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    Oh, clowns. Soon the circus will be closed.
  35. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 4 February 2016 17: 53 New
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    Um, given the above and the Pentagon’s statement that Russian troops will remove NATO from the Baltic in 3 days, .... -What are those APU monsters ?! one word - CYBORGES
  36. drags33
    drags33 4 February 2016 17: 53 New
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    Honestly, I’m tired of reading this nonsense of mentally ill people ... Today, b / Ukraine, as never before, requires a large number of highly qualified psychiatrists ... Because of this criminal debilitation, so much blood has been shed !!! Once the whole dill elite will have to answer for this ...
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  38. Balagan
    Balagan 4 February 2016 18: 08 New
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    What is it about Kharkov? 15 special forces and 36 airborne divisions went to Ismail and were stopped at Debaltseve, for which they pinned the commander’s chest on the chest laughing wassat
  39. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 4 February 2016 18: 13 New
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    Yes, it’s just a shame that in the West they shot a film where the 3rd World War begins with the Baltic states (although the Baltic is not clear to us why the hell). But what about Ukraine? Well, I have to remind you.
  40. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 4 February 2016 18: 13 New
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    Yes, it’s just a shame that in the West they shot a film where the 3rd World War begins with the Baltic states (although the Baltic is not clear to us why the hell). But what about Ukraine? Well, I have to remind you.
  41. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 4 February 2016 18: 14 New
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    Something doubled me)))
  42. Peaceful Basmach
    Peaceful Basmach 4 February 2016 18: 15 New
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    Here are the craps ... !!!
  43. Cord
    Cord 4 February 2016 18: 19 New
    +1
    The Westernizers have already beaten more than one scenario of war, according to all estimates, they will not stand the war with Russia. And here the "mighty" 404 state wins victory after victory over the "aggressor". NATO can disband, save money, after all, they have such "defenders" In general, it is scary to think what will happen if suddenly the parachute decides to go to Europe, with such an army they will capture the Geyts in a week, and that's it, the dream of idiots will come true - "great urine" from sea to sea.
  44. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 February 2016 18: 19 New
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    The guys are working promptly, not like ours, and not even two years have passed, and the report is ready, go check now, they have already harvested the crop and are going to plant the second time. I don’t even know what else to say, well, the brain of a normal person cannot perceive such nonsense.
  45. uskrabut
    uskrabut 4 February 2016 18: 23 New
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    we would have given them if they had caught up with us
  46. black
    black 4 February 2016 19: 01 New
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    The main sins of an officer are cowardice and lies. From Kirovsky to Miuss, inclusive, the battles were fought by the 7 militia brigade. No gain. Against the 128 mountain rifle brigade, reinforced with tanks and artillery. Well, terbats and Natsikamts and mercenaries. And yet we broke them. Big blood
    How can they now explain that, without having three-fold superiority, the collective farmers and miners did not want to put them in for the most.
  47. novobranets
    novobranets 4 February 2016 19: 03 New
    +1
    Ukrainian army opposed the "armed forces of the Russian Federation." The material of the Ukrainian General Staff states that the “Russian-terrorist troops” (a term composed by the Maidan "specialists") planned to break through to Artyomovsk after the battles in the area of ​​the city of Debaltseve, and then, take no less.
    Well this is all clear, nothing new. Personally, I am interested in one thing, from which they are driving moonshine? Look how sticks them out, with terrible force. wassat Would have felt sorry for themselves, brains that are so thin and flow out.
  48. salamandra2826
    salamandra2826 4 February 2016 20: 29 New
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    I wonder how this legend will sound in 200-300 years?
  49. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 4 February 2016 20: 39 New
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    the militia was stopped not by the Ukrainian army, but by the Minsk agreements.
  50. German Titov
    German Titov 4 February 2016 20: 53 New
    +1
    You need to trust the shitty commander of Ukraine. The one with the "funny squirrel", after Ilovaisk said "Our SPN went through the rear of the Russian troops and" cut out every last one "(close to the text" squirrel "). I pluckkkal." Our SPN "was really cool.