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Ukraine has begun testing the first armored boat

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In Odessa, the factory started to test the small, armored artillery boat of the 58155 project (“Gyurza-M”) BK-01 (allegedly named “Bilgorod-Dnistrovsky”), which is being built for the Ukrainian Navy, the blog bmpd.


Ukraine has begun testing the first armored boat


2 such boats will be built in total.

The laying of the first two small armored artillery boats of the 58155 project (Gyurza-M) designed for the Ukrainian Navy was made at PJSC Zavod Leninskaya Kuznitsa in Kiev on October 25 2012 of the year. The boats were intended for solving problems in the Danube River Basin and in the coastal The Black and Azov Seas were to form the basis of a special river division of the Western Naval Base (Odessa) of the Ukrainian Navy, formed in January 2013. According to the initial plans of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine (MOU), up to 2017, to build for the Ukrainian Navy nine boats type "Gurza-M", "- the author writes.

Both boats were supposed to be delivered the fleet By the end of 2013, construction was delayed due to insufficient funding and the poor quality of the Lenin Forge.

It is noted that "the construction of both armored boats was resumed in the autumn of 2014, already as an" emergency military order. " They were launched in November last year and sent to “complete the equipment and conduct tests” in Odessa. The transfer of boats to the fleet is expected this year.



Help bmpd: “The boat of the 58155 project (“ Gyurza-M ”) has a displacement of 50,7 t, a length of 23 m, a width of 4,8 m and a draft of 1 meter. The maximum travel speed is up to 25 knots, the cruising range of the economic course 700 miles, the autonomy of 5 days. The crew of five people. Armament: two remotely controlled naval combat modules BM-5.01 "Katran-M" manufactured by GP "Nikolaev Repair and Mechanical Plant", which are a variant of the BM-3 "Storm" combat module for armored vehicles. Each Katran-M module includes an 30-mm automatic gun ZTM1, 30-mm automatic grenade launcher and 7,62-mm machine gun KT, as well as two ATGM Barrier with a laser guidance system. The boat is equipped with an optical-electronic fire control system and also has a set of portable air defense missile systems. ”
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  1. Cripple cross
    Cripple cross 4 February 2016 12: 43
    16
    Congratulations. A good unit to catch poachers on the rivers.
    But the fleet can not be called, whatever one may say.
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 February 2016 12: 48
      51
      Probably, another admiral will appear in the Ukrainian Navy. laughing
      1. TTX
        TTX 4 February 2016 12: 53
        +6
        Tongue removed laughing
        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 4 February 2016 12: 54
          +8
          Quote: cniza
          Probably another admiral will appear in the Ukrainian Navy

          Commander of the Bilhorod-Dniester Fleet! fellow
          alleged name "Bіlgorod-Dnіstrovsky"
          1. maxiban
            maxiban 4 February 2016 12: 56
            15
            Somehow reminded.
            1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
              Uncle VasyaSayapin 4 February 2016 14: 10
              +3
              The superstructure of the boat is fashionable. Like stealth?
              As the saying goes: "Don't shoot the pianist, he plays as best he can."
              1. Pravdarm
                Pravdarm 4 February 2016 14: 17
                +1
                These are armored curtains! The armored car! laughing
              2. KVIRTU
                KVIRTU 4 February 2016 20: 55
                +2
                She, superstructure, quick-detachable, bolted, cable on connectors; for transportation incl. by air.
                They were designed to order: "In 2004, 2 were sold to Uzbekistan to protect the border with Afghanistan along the Amu-Darya River as part of the Termez River Flotilla of border troops."
                In Ukraine itself, neither the fleet nor the border guards were needed. Now you yourself know who broke this state order.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 4 February 2016 21: 11
                  +3
                  Quote: KVIRTU
                  They were designed to order: "In 2004, 2 were sold to Uzbekistan to protect the border with Afghanistan

                  A couple of years before, the Ukrainian border service had acquired a couple of speed boats in Spain in La Coruña. What, on the one hand, delighted local shipbuilders, on the other hand, surprised the Spaniards - why so expensive?
            2. just exp
              just exp 4 February 2016 15: 12
              +3
              in vain you laugh, to all of us Khan, kaklov have American boats.
              1. KVIRTU
                KVIRTU 4 February 2016 21: 03
                +1
                I recall the composition of the Navy in addition to these boats (just do not laugh at the last name, there is such a city):
                frigate "Getman Sagaidachny",
                Corvette "Vinnitsa",
                Priluki missile boat
                medium landing ship “Kirovograd”, patrol boat “Skadovsk”, anti-sabotage boat “Naked Quay”.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 4 February 2016 21: 13
                  +3
                  Quote: KVIRTU
                  I recall the composition of the Navy in addition to these boats (just do not laugh at the last name, there is such a city):
                  frigate "Getman Sagaidachny",
                  Corvette "Vinnitsa",
                  Priluki missile boat
                  medium landing ship “Kirovograd”, patrol boat “Skadovsk”, anti-sabotage boat “Naked Quay”.

                  There is not enough launch (full of feces) called "Odessa, seaport, 17th berth".
                  laughing
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      4. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 4 February 2016 12: 57
        +9
        "Broneteomkin diarrhea" is straight, in hohlo execution, but as for the admiral, he is even attached to the inflatable boats of the Ukrainian Armed Forces! laughing
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 4 February 2016 13: 26
          +9
          Quote: Major Yurik
          "Broneteomkin diarrhea" is straight, in hohlo execution, but as for the admiral, he is even attached to the inflatable boats of the Ukrainian Armed Forces!

          why aren’t you ashamed laughing
          from the dill site "information resistance"
          you can "laugh" after each paragraph laughing
          =====
          http://sprotyv.info/ru/news/kiev/beregovaya-artilleriya-vmsu-zhgla-foto
          While the landing in the Zhytomyr region is buzzing, the Navy artillerymen decided create the appropriate resonance and on the calm surface of the Black Sea made a local tsunami.

          So, coastal gunners of the Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "koshmaril" surface targets of the conditional enemy. They hit the adversary from all types and calibers, both reactive and barrel potential.

          Actually, the gods of war do not relax and keep themselves in shape, so that it would not be out of place to meddle with the sea borders!
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      5. inkass_98
        inkass_98 4 February 2016 13: 03
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        Another admiral will appear in the Ukrainian Navy.

        No, Petsya denyuzhku earn extra, candy income is not enough.
      6. tol100v
        tol100v 4 February 2016 13: 04
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        Probably, another admiral will appear in the Ukrainian Navy.

        Two, boats - two admirals, only so!
      7. Cripple cross
        Cripple cross 4 February 2016 13: 08
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        another admiral in the Ukrainian Navy

        Apparently a big mess is planned, since such a revival of the Ukrainian fleet is underway. Most likely, this admiral will be responsible for the operation to return the Crimea. As if blockade from the sea would not be arranged, otherwise everything ...... write was gone. The pipe to us.
      8. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 4 February 2016 15: 36
        +4
        Quote: cniza
        Probably, another admiral will appear in the Ukrainian Navy.

        If we take the underwater forces of the Navy as a sample, then for two armored boats you need at least three admirals:
        - commander of the special river division of the Western Naval Base,
        - commander of the river ship brigade of the Western Naval Base (one division as part of the brigade),
        - Deputy Fleet Commander for the River Forces of the Western Naval Base. smile
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    3. Mitek
      Mitek 4 February 2016 12: 49
      +7
      Damned communists. Under the USSR, Ulyanovsk, and after a quarter century of independence, a wretched boat cannot be built ...
    4. Snake AAA
      Snake AAA 4 February 2016 12: 50
      +2
      The main thing is that this armor reaches the water and swims (threshing floor) and does not sink like the concern Antonov, and the whole country is extreme, such a damn country Bender was hit !!!
    5. Finches
      Finches 4 February 2016 12: 58
      14
      Money was given to the aircraft carrier, but only two cutters were enough ...! Glory to Ukraine! laughing
      1. bocsman
        bocsman 4 February 2016 14: 45
        +2
        And what is one aircraft carrier? He is alone! And that to two, TWO boats!
        And it was as if decorated not a combat unit, but they were putting it into operation.
      2. KVIRTU
        KVIRTU 4 February 2016 21: 26
        0
        The Uzbeks for two of these 5,6 million dollars fell off in 2004, this pair for Ukraine was estimated at 120 million UAH (even at the rate of 8 UAH / USD - 15 million dollars).

        For comparison: patrol boat "Mongoose", cost about 120 million rubles
        (at a rate of 30, i.e. 4 million cu)
    6. tchoni
      tchoni 4 February 2016 13: 05
      0
      here they are for the basics and cook. within the next 30 years they can’t compete with the Russian Black Sea Fleet ... and chasing militias in the first place is the most ... fools, fools, and when necessary, they rummage around
      1. FID
        FID 4 February 2016 13: 28
        +2
        Quote: tchoni
        here they are for the basics and cook.

        The Sea of ​​Azov is our inland sea, how will these self-propelled seeds enter it ???
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 4 February 2016 13: 38
          +2
          Quote: SSI
          the inland sea, as these self-propelled seeds enter it

          How, how, yes, they’ll go on foot, through the Kherson region, and their armored ships on logs will roll across the steppes. They have a whole life-saving crash for crossing the Dnieper.
          1. korvin1976
            korvin1976 4 February 2016 14: 14
            +2
            Maybe they will trample on dry land, why would not they trample, so to speak, a trial balloon. And the next step will be a submarine in the same way. And then there will be a saying "a submarine in the steppes of Ukraine", not a saying, but a reality. I really want to be curious
        2. gispanec
          gispanec 4 February 2016 14: 41
          +2
          Quote: SSI
          The Sea of ​​Azov is our inland sea, how will these self-propelled seeds enter it ???

          unfortunately through Berdyansk or Mariupol ..... this boat can be easily transported by trailer or train ... they can use them against the Romanians on the Danube or try to nightmare the independent republics .... but there they will quickly calm him down ... or take over)) ..
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 4 February 2016 15: 41
        +3
        Quote: tchoni
        here they are for the basics and cook. within the next 30 years they can’t compete with the Russian Black Sea Fleet ... and chasing militias in the first place is the most ... fools, fools, and when necessary, they rummage around

        As the practice of the autumn of the year before last showed that boats on the Sea of ​​Azov need to be extremely careful.
        For in those places, "Tanks in Coastal Defense" is not Unknown Fathers Combat Guard training filmbut the harsh reality of life.
        1. tchoni
          tchoni 4 February 2016 16: 13
          0
          that’s why the Chubonosers of the armored boat are preparing ... for ersatz and border boats alas and ah - they don’t work ...
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 4 February 2016 17: 44
            +1
            Quote: tchoni
            that’s why the Chubonosers of the armored boat are preparing ... for ersatz and border boats alas and ah - they don’t work ...

            Yes, there are useless armored boats. Their armor protects a maximum of 23 mm and fragments of equipment.

            If you build an armored boat, protected from 125-mm shells, then it can only move along the seabed.
            1. tchoni
              tchoni 4 February 2016 22: 59
              -1
              the armored boat from the kaklov was initially equipped with means of fighting tanks at extreme distances (I mean petr). from a land mine, I think that the armor will be defective .. and with a crowbar nmdo get into three or four times, so that the boat becomes sub-one ...
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 5 February 2016 10: 25
                0
                Quote: tchoni
                the armored boat from the kaklov was initially equipped with means of fighting tanks at extreme distances (I mean petr).

                Yeah ... on the foot and on calm water. smile
                To begin with, the BKA must at least detect a tank. And then get into that part of it, which is not covered by natural shelters (for standing on the shore full length - dumb bad). And do it on the go and when rolling. While holding the backlight on the target. And praying that the target won't set the smoke screen. For the ATGM "Barrier" installed on the BKA have a semi-automatic guidance system.
                Quote: tchoni
                from a land mine, I think that the armor will protect

                There the whole armor is from 5 to 10 mm (only thicker on the towers). Just so that the OFS does not fly right through. smile
                1. tchoni
                  tchoni 5 February 2016 14: 01
                  0
                  in general, yes. but, again ... there is a radar on the boat, albeit inferior. albeit as a means of supporting the landing it is of limited use, especially if there are tanks in the coastal defense, but, for hunting for a flotilla of militias, where, mainly, light motorbots are quite normal ...
                2. tchoni
                  tchoni 5 February 2016 14: 07
                  -1
                  Serious pitching has never happened before ...
    7. Comrade Bender
      Comrade Bender 4 February 2016 15: 50
      0
      Something he looks like a port pusher tug behind. Maybe remade from it?
  2. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 4 February 2016 12: 44
    +6
    Plant "Leninskaya Kuznitsa"
    But Parsley manages to chop grandmothers until they kicked him in the ass!
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 4 February 2016 12: 49
      +1
      Both boats had to be handed over to the fleet by the end of 2013. Construction was delayed due to insufficient funding and the poor quality of the Leninskaya forge.
      It is noted that "the construction of both armored boats was resumed in the fall of 2014 already as an" emergency military order "".
      So that is why the "Maidan" Yanukovych did not give money and criticized the Petin plant. Petya thought the orders would be trampled, but the yanyk broke him off.
  3. kapitan92
    kapitan92 4 February 2016 12: 46
    16
    ".... A total of 2 such boats will be built." ....
    Colleagues! Remember the old joke: ....- And then we let the tanks go.
    “Two or one at a time.” smile
    1. Pravdarm
      Pravdarm 4 February 2016 12: 50
      +3
      .
      - And then - aviation!
      - No, we can’t, the pilot got sick!
      fellow
  4. Altona
    Altona 4 February 2016 12: 47
    +3
    And then I think, why did the talk about strengthening the naval power of Eurohabon become more frequent? And it’s over there, Mikhalych. The head strike nano-destroyer was brought to the test. Well, that’s it! Quivering cotton wool, Ukraine is rearming, on the Black Sea it will practically be equal to Omeryga! Another couple of such boats and no Donald cookies can pass the Bosphorus .. laughing fellow
    1. Hell's Angel
      Hell's Angel 4 February 2016 17: 38
      0
      The head strike nano-destroyer was brought to the test. Well, that’s it! Quivering cotton wool, Ukraine is rearming, on the Black Sea it will practically be equal to Omeryga! Another couple of such boats and no Donald cookies can pass the Bosphorus ..

      Here you are laughing, but in "nedopendoevroukriya" all this is seriously discussed! Or have you read their media and are now posing as your thoughts? (joke).
  5. SAM 5
    SAM 5 4 February 2016 12: 47
    +6
    On the first fota along the perimeter is a yellow-black armor protection? laughing
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 4 February 2016 13: 06
      +1
      Well, and on the shore an additional armored set
    2. Furious bambr
      Furious bambr 4 February 2016 13: 15
      +4
      No. This is an additional buoyancy margin. laughing
  6. Maxom75
    Maxom75 4 February 2016 12: 47
    +4
    From the construction of aircraft-carrying cruisers to armored boats, progress is on the face. (((
  7. 2С5
    2С5 4 February 2016 12: 47
    +2
    ... well, the first armada of the Navy’s tombstones in action ... scary, already terrible! belay
  8. sever.56
    sever.56 4 February 2016 12: 48
    +2
    That’s it, tryndets ... Now they will definitely close our Black Sea exit from the Black Sea! Amused Ukromorekh !!!wassat
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 February 2016 12: 51
    +9
    In the photo, the boat is on a slipway or on a pedestal. It seems that they have made up a monument boat and pass it off as a new one. In Khabarovsk, the famous Soviet armored boat is standing on a pedestal, it looks more frightening.
  10. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 4 February 2016 12: 52
    +1
    Construction was delayed due to insufficient funding and low quality work of the Lenin Forge.
    In this connection, it is recommended to urgently change the name of the enterprise to truly Ukrainian. Will definitely help!
  11. Magic archer
    Magic archer 4 February 2016 12: 52
    0
    Well, it’s very reminiscent of the armor of a boat from the Second World War! Unless this coloring is stupid and there are rockets, and so ... as always show off over the edge and in fact zilch
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 4 February 2016 12: 58
      +2
      Quote: Magic Archer
      very reminiscent of the armor of a boat from World War II

      Those boats on board the loopholes were absent. But this one has, as many as two armor-piercers. To shoot back from fish surveillance.
  12. Lissyara
    Lissyara 4 February 2016 12: 54
    +4
    No comments! Already published!
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 4 February 2016 14: 49
      +1
      Humans, but at least a million minuses to mentor!
      I graduated from the Air Defense Quarter. Air Marshal Pokryshkina A.I.
      Then there was the USSR, and this VVUZ was of the level "Baumanka with shoulder straps, Moscow State University with shoulder straps, MIPT in boots"
      We really look at things. The people who taught me, beloved teachers in uniform, they will not go anywhere from this moronic power.
      It's a shame that the authorities are mu.d.a.s.
      We can consider the insult of Mr. Poroshenko on a statement to the court of Europe. NEHA declares!
      1. your1970
        your1970 4 February 2016 18: 27
        +1
        but for shto cons to put ??? belay belay
        You said exactly what - 99,999% of VO participants support ...
      2. Lekov L
        Lekov L 4 February 2016 22: 08
        0
        Hello from Baumanki!
        Former commander of the battery of the RLU CU in the Air Force.
        With respect to colleagues ..
  13. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 4 February 2016 12: 54
    +4
    Recently, the dill general boasted that they would have the best submarine fleet. He didn’t talk about these boats, of course, if they were immediately flooded.
  14. kotvov
    kotvov 4 February 2016 12: 56
    +2
    I remember from the beginning of independence, a classmate worked on these riffraff. They then stunned, which, surprisingly, also TWO runners, so they didn’t want to swim, they all strove to drop back. I had to put additional tanks. Somehow they shoved them into the fleet, where now these fellow travelers, one Neptune knows.
  15. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 4 February 2016 12: 57
    +2
    According to the classification ukrovmf will be considered at least the destroyer-guns there is!
    1. Rokossovsky
      Rokossovsky 4 February 2016 13: 05
      +1
      there are guns!

      Take it higher! There are MANPADS! So this is not just a destroyer, but a URO destroyer!
      More precisely UkRO ... wassat
  16. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 4 February 2016 12: 58
    +2
    with such success, they will soon invent armored tires))
    1. PKK
      PKK 4 February 2016 14: 49
      0
      So, if ours and the militias, drive these boats out of the seas to land. We will have to invent a treadmill for boats to invent.
  17. SAM 5
    SAM 5 4 February 2016 12: 59
    +2
    Almost according to Pushkin: "I want to be the mistress of the sea ..."
  18. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 4 February 2016 12: 59
    +2
    Well, I understand everything, but why are the balls, corporate colors ..? lol
    1. Cripple cross
      Cripple cross 4 February 2016 13: 15
      +3
      Quote: Observer 33
      Well, I understand everything, but why are the balls, corporate colors ..?

      Corporate colors - This is called Ukrainism (an analogue of patriotism)
      In general, balls ...... Mlyn !!! WELL THAT AN UNDERSTANDABLE !! ?? Schaub did not drown !!!! laughing
    2. SAM 5
      SAM 5 4 February 2016 13: 26
      -1
      Well, I understand everything, but the balls, why

      They just forgot to indicate in the article that he is an aircraft carrier. This is their aviation.
  19. sisa29
    sisa29 4 February 2016 13: 00
    +3
    It’s not entirely clear why they raised him so high, and then they climb the fire escape? I can’t catch the same logic in coloring. Why is this beige stain on the wheelhouse?
    1. Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Great-grandfather of Zeus 4 February 2016 13: 23
      +2
      sisa29-beige spot on the wheelhouse is called a mole !!! wassat
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  21. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 4 February 2016 13: 02
    +2
    Stunning in scale series-2 (TWO) boats!
  22. Michael67
    Michael67 4 February 2016 13: 03
    +3
    Seven feet to them under water and eternal oncoming wind. "A total of 2 such boats will be built." During the tests of both, it is necessary to practice the "Urgent dive" command.
  23. Yugra
    Yugra 4 February 2016 13: 07
    0
    After the first stage of any of our last machine guns, this trough will go to the bottom ...
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 4 February 2016 13: 17
      +5
      You know, I sincerely do not want your words to be ever confirmed. And not because I doubt our weapons and are touched by the power of these boats, but because it means an open war between Ukraine and Russia.
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 4 February 2016 13: 54
        +1
        I saw "Korda" at the DNR repeat
  24. sgr291158
    sgr291158 4 February 2016 13: 12
    -1
    Yes, they will sink.
    1. midivan
      midivan 4 February 2016 13: 18
      +3
      Quote: sgr291158
      Yes, they will sink.

      stop they won’t sink! how many balls
  25. Evgeny RS
    Evgeny RS 4 February 2016 13: 18
    +2
    Well, it looks like an armored boat from the Second World War.
  26. kizhe
    kizhe 4 February 2016 13: 18
    +3
    Without a garland with balls (inflated with helium), they did not dare to lower it.
  27. Pilot200809
    Pilot200809 4 February 2016 13: 24
    +9
    And we rode on an armored car, turned over to the fuck .... mother!
  28. Served once
    Served once 4 February 2016 13: 39
    +2
    Yes ... "Progress" is obvious. With my own eyes I saw the "Varyag" in Nikolaev in 1988-89. The spirit was gripped by what a Soviet Man could! And now. Everything was left for them, everything was just ... clearly characterized and described in one phrase.
  29. common man
    common man 4 February 2016 13: 44
    +2
    How everything in the world is relative. In the tents, Zumwalt went to sea, an event. In Russia, Admiral Gorshkov at the state. trials are a holiday. In Ukraine, an armored boat was launched into the water.
  30. kg pv
    kg pv 4 February 2016 13: 45
    +2
    And they do not work well because this is the "Lenin's forge", so they will remake its Bandera smithy, then the aircraft carriers will immediately begin to rivet that your pies. laughing
  31. msm
    msm 4 February 2016 13: 52
    +2
    But, the engines are good. Not a couple of ours.
  32. gla172
    gla172 4 February 2016 13: 56
    +2
    And covered with balls so that if a hole below the waterline doesn’t sink wassat
  33. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 4 February 2016 14: 04
    +1
    A similar armored car with a monument stands on the promenade in the city of Primorsko-Akhtarsk, Krasnodar Territory. The form of the cabin is different, the weapon is more modest, but the meaning is the same. That boat fought in the Second World War on the Sea of ​​Azov. This cam will fight, it’s easy to guess.
  34. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 4 February 2016 14: 06
    +1
    And they want to teach him what to fly? lol
  35. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 4 February 2016 14: 10
    +7
    Oleg Kaptsov writes that modern ships do not book, in fact, the way it is. Earlier, all of this could only be laughed at. What could a 30mm gun do? Peel paint maximum. And now four missiles and two 30mm guns will have time to do some serious things, until they are slammed. Against modern ships, the armament of this boat is quite formidable, if you successfully hit, then you can safely sink the MRC. I think our admirals are not stupid and also understand this. Therefore, even the simple presence of these boats and the theoretical possibility of their entering the battle will make normal authorities not risk people and keep their distance. Or plan a separate operation to destroy them.
    Cheers patriots please do not strain, I know in your world everything is completely different. The Turks do not dare, the enemies are drowning barely sailing off from the pier, and one of our Marines or paratroopers is enough to kill everyone. Do not pay attention and relax further, writing is not for you.
    1. just exp
      just exp 4 February 2016 15: 01
      +1
      how far can he open fire?
      and you really believe that ATGM can even in the amount of 4 pieces can sink a relatively large ship (not 50 tons of displacement, RTOs are still 10 times larger)?
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 4 February 2016 16: 45
        +1
        At MRK 8 200-300kg of warheads in missiles, how are they protected? Is a successful hit possible in which they detonate? Is 1600kg enough to sink MRK?
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 4 February 2016 15: 43
      +3
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Against modern ships, the armament of this boat is quite formidable, if you successfully hit, then you can safely sink the MRC.

      Yes, I can sink an aircraft carrier !!! If you're lucky, of course ... (C)
      Quote: chunga-changa
      I think our admirals are not stupid and also understand this. Therefore, even the simple presence of these boats and the theoretical possibility of their entering the battle will make normal authorities not risk people and keep their distance.

      You know, in battle at sea it’s generally customary to keep your distance. And the effective firing range of ATGMs and a 30-mm cannon (1,5-2 miles) could be considered sufficient for a naval battle unless at the beginning of the last century.
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 4 February 2016 16: 48
        +1
        As for the distance, it’s still easier, read about the Cole destroyer, it turns out to be a modern battle at sea - separately, and if there is a task to sink an enemy ship, then everything is separate.
        Well, let's imagine hypothetically. A mile from the MRC is a cargo ship from a "neutral country", say Bulgaria, or under the Panamanian flag. A similar boat jumps out from behind him, fires a volley, and again hides behind the ship. Your actions? Is this option possible? If I came up with this in two minutes, can an experienced naval officer, say an American one, come up with something better?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 4 February 2016 19: 05
          0
          Quote: chunga-changa
          As for the distance, it’s still easier, read about the Cole destroyer, it turns out to be a modern battle at sea - separately, and if there is a task to sink an enemy ship, then everything is separate.

          "Cole" is not a fight. This is an attack by a sabotage group on a civilian "shahid boat" in a conventionally friendly port. In combat conditions, this boat would have been shot before it even saw the ship.
          And yes, the BKA somehow does not look like a civilian boat.
          Quote: chunga-changa
          Well, let's imagine hypothetically. A mile from the MRC is a cargo ship from a "neutral country", say Bulgaria, or under the Panamanian flag. A similar boat jumps out from behind him, fires a volley, and again hides behind the ship. Your actions?

          I do not understand - war is declared or not? Because if war is declared, the boat is already dying at the pier in Odessa.
          If there is no war, but there is a pre-war state with its provocations, then access to the sea of ​​any ship will be monitored (and in peacetime too) - there are not so many of them.
          As the classics wrote, silent ambush does not happen.
          So the commander of the RTOs will be aware that for some reason the enemy boat is hiding behind the neutral next to him. And the RTO will either move away or take measures - for example, first it will warn the appropriate BCA on the radio (or require the neutral to change course), then it will turn the AK-630 toward the suitable BCA, and then it can give course warning line.

          In addition, from our side, they can preemptively apply "preventive overflights" of BKA with the same Su-24 Black Sea Fleet. smile
          1. chunga-changa
            chunga-changa 4 February 2016 21: 51
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            The time is now. Putin crumples his boobs and pretends to be intact, and Poroshenko openly declares that he is at war with Russia, and for a couple of years now. The "international community" actively supports him in this conviction. How would we not officially fight the Turks, but they shot down the plane, which prevents the sinking of the ship of the country with which you are at war? Unless, of course, there is an order from where it is needed, and he can come at any time.
            Then, who will follow these boats, what and how? A boat went out to sea and what next? Everyone watching their boat? You can’t fly by air. And if he goes to the Danube Delta for a month, what will you do? And if one went to the delta, the second to Turkey, the third to Batumi, and another couple went to sea and the crowds simply disappeared, what should I do?
            In general, I am amazed at people's ideas about the possibilities of intelligence, as if it is constantly aware of everything about everything, always and everywhere. Intelligence usually knows almost nothing about anything and satellites do not see everything, and agents are not always aware. "The commander of the RTO will be aware of ..." from where? He will be sent for reconnaissance. This is not a computer game, where the enemy's units are carefully highlighted in real time, honestly, where does such naivety come from.
  36. gla172
    gla172 4 February 2016 14: 15
    +2
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  37. Funnels
    Funnels 4 February 2016 14: 16
    +4
    And that Pedro has not yet pre-empted his factory: "Bandera's Hammer" there or "Petliura's Anvil." Where do the patriots look?
  38. cobalt
    cobalt 4 February 2016 14: 25
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    As if not according to the Maidan - small, but artillery, That's how it should be: A huge anti-Colorado thundering self-propelled armor. Such admirals are no longer ashamed to command.
  39. PKK
    PKK 4 February 2016 14: 39
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    50 tons of this ship, it’s not much, it can be carried along the coast and launched into the water where they don’t wait. It’s convenient. But it’s a test balloon, soon it will bring an aircraft carrier, destroyer, cruiser, and a womb for submarines. Dill is reborn!
  40. 4ekist
    4ekist 4 February 2016 15: 39
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    Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
    The superstructure of the boat is fashionable. Like stealth?
    As the saying goes: "Don't shoot the pianist, he plays as best he can."

    And if a wheeled carriage is fitted to this boat, then it’s possible along the Ukrainian steppes ehhhhh with a breeze ...
  41. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 4 February 2016 15: 41
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    And when will the underwater boats go?
  42. tacet
    tacet 4 February 2016 16: 36
    +1
    Deja vu!? Or how ?
  43. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 February 2016 17: 21
    +2
    Well, a good car, there will be something for the Ukrainian admirals to take a booze on Saturdays. Do not forget to submerge the burner.
  44. magician
    magician 4 February 2016 23: 41
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    it will be the same as with the great wall of Khokhlyat, plundered. And so wow targets, concentric circles will draw a path along the sides.