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Caucasus Islam

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In everyday consciousness, Caucasian Islam is perceived as a kind of monolithic and cohesive structure. But in reality this is far from the case. The peoples of the Caucasus perceived this belief in various ways and at different times. If in Dagestan and parts of Chechnya it appeared as early as the 6 century, with the Arab conquests, in other regions the process of its distribution was uneven and, often, painful. The population of the central and western Caucasus in one degree or another was Christian, and the Crimean khans, encouraged by Turkey, conducted Islamization there with fire and sword. But right up to the middle of the 19 century, among the descendants of Alans and Circassians, worship of the cross was celebrated, Easter and Christmas were celebrated, Issa (Jesus) and Maryam (Mary) were especially revered. And only the Murids movement finally pushed this paradigm to the margins of social consciousness. But even now, legends, traditions and sayings about Christian antiquity have been preserved in the people's memory. This is manifested in the mentality of people in their choice of life strategies. Remains of paganism have survived to our times. Thus, the vivid mythology of the Iranian-speaking tribes exists along with the Auramistic ideas in the spiritual life of the Ossetians. Some of the customs among the Adyg peoples are preserved from the Bronze Age, and the world perception of Balkarians and Karachais is permeated with steppe polytheism. In the minds of the highlanders, the adats in some incomprehensible way coexist with the laws of Sharia.


The Caucasian knot is a place of concentration of various peoples and languages. Genetic studies have shown that representatives of the Khat, Hurrian, Indo-European, African and other haplogroups participated in their ethnogenesis. Many empires sought to seize these territories, and, consequently, had an impact on the local population. The result was a significant diversity in religions and beliefs. Most Muslims consider themselves Sunnis. Moreover, this current is far from uniform: Kabardians, Balkarians, Circassians, Karachays, Adyghes, Abazins, some of the Ingush belong to the Hanafi mazhab, and the Chechens, the Dagestan peoples - to the Shafit. It is clear that belonging to this or that school does not cause any special problems in relations between the Sunnis, but, for example, the enforcement of Sharia norms in each of them has its own characteristics. In addition, a significant proportion of Lezgins are Shiites.

Traditional Islam in the Caucasus for more than a century has developed in deep isolation. Initially, his contacts with the outside world were limited by the tsarist government, and later by the Soviet one. The priests were persecuted, the mosques were destroyed. Faith was preserved only thanks to individual devotees who mechanically read the Koran in Arabic. The lack of information from outside was compensated by folk art, new traditions and customs arose, something was adopted from even the neighbors of Christians. So one of the initiatives of the authorities of Karachay-Cherkessia to jointly celebrate the Parents' Day in mixed villages contributed to the fact that the highlanders began to more carefully care for the graves of their ancestors. And there are many examples of mutual influence. In general, this state of affairs protected Muslim communities from the main lines of development of Islam, making them defenseless against foreign influence.

The destruction of the Soviet Union led to the emergence of Salafi sects in the former republics. Wahhabis, and later, supporters of ISIS, began to exert severe pressure on local Muslims, to seize their mosques, to recruit supporters into their ranks. It should be noted that fundamentalists (those who propose to return to the origins of Islam) have always been unwelcome guests in the Caucasus. Initially, they were held back by the Ottoman Empire, later by the Russian and the USSR. And only in the period of anarchy, both in the 19 century and at the end of 20, did they leave their trail of blood in the mountains. With the weakening of state power one of the few forces opposing the Salafi expansion, Sufism remained. This deeply mystical teaching enjoyed support in Turkey during the Ottomans. But in the Atatürk national state he had no place. Muslim fundamentalists have always been extremely hostile to the Sufi movement, they considered him a heresy.

In Soviet times, Sufism, Muridism, or Tarikatism were kept underground. His communities are preserved in Dagestan and Chechnya. Unlike Wahhabism, this doctrine does not require its followers to wage war against infidels, no matter who they are or where they are. Jihad here is declared in case of aggression against supporters or the country. In the Caucasus, three of its currents were widespread: An-Nashbandiya, Al-Qadiriya, Al-Shaziliya. But the tradition was interrupted. It is believed that now there are no Shaikhs who have the right to transmit ijazu. The teachings continue to live only in the popular environment, under the tutelage of religious leaders. In Dagestan, there is an unofficial alliance between the political establishment and the elite of the Sufis. In Chechnya, the Kadirite vidry resisted the dictatorship of Dudayev. In the initial stages of the ATO, they also fought with federal troops, but later joined with them to fight the fundamentalists.

Thus, we see that Caucasian Islam is many-sided and multifaceted. And if you do not take into account the radical directions, it becomes clear that the spiritual values ​​accumulated by this religion allow peacefully to exist here for the most diverse peoples and peoples. In Russia, the followers of this denomination demonstrate the most successful models of living arrangement. This is not typical for many Western countries. The richest legacy of Muslim theosophy is the basis for fundamentally new phenomena in state-building, art and business.
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  1. The black
    The black 6 February 2016 06: 30
    13
    I am not a Muslim, but as a resident of the UK I can say that I personally did not feel any "diversity". The overwhelming majority of North Caucasian Muslims are Sunites. Although it must be said that over the past few years, a certain part of Muslims has become radicalized. (Many hijabs have appeared - although they were practically not worn in the Caucasus before) Relations between the "Wahs" and other Muslims are quite tense, although open there seem to be no conflicts yet.
  2. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 6 February 2016 07: 02
    +6
    Thus, we see that Caucasian Islam is multifaceted and multifaceted.
    Yes, in all this, and the Caucasian Muslims themselves can figure it out with great difficulty, but then what to say about the rest? How to separate "wheat from chaff"? This is worse than Newton's binomial.
    1. Avantageur
      Avantageur 6 February 2016 10: 40
      -1
      Quote: LÄRZ
      Thus, we see that Caucasian Islam is multifaceted and multifaceted.
      How to separate "wheat from chaff"?

      Understand what they preach ...


  3. vglazunov
    vglazunov 6 February 2016 07: 14
    10
    Each world religion is unique and has a number of specific features. But why do they actively Islamize Moscow and Russia as a whole? Surrounding the Kremlin with a belt of migrants and guest workers who do not have the right to protest is otherwise deportation. It’s very convenient for the power of the liberals whose home is not Moscow and the country is not Russia. I won’t be surprised that the guest workers will change into igilovites.
  4. Tjeck
    Tjeck 6 February 2016 08: 36
    +8
    Maybe I don’t fully realize the piquancy of the problem, but for me everything is so clear. It’s just when there is no certain framework or if you want restrictions that Islam, that Christianity sooner or later, mutate into a sect. I approve of believing people, although I myself do not belong to them, but religion should not be allowed to be used as a kind of judicial book - then there will be no extremism.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 6 February 2016 09: 13
      +2
      Quote: Tjeck
      but religion should not be allowed to be used as a kind of judicial book

      This is the main, the rest, as they say from the evil one. The rest is the use of religion for personal purposes (people, elites, in principle, and the nation). Here the sabaka also rummaged. The man is weak, but the crafty one does not sleep. Although there is a certain contradiction. Religion is demanded by society precisely as a systematization and observance of the rules for the hostel as the laws. This is what they use for radicalization.
  5. emercom1979
    emercom1979 6 February 2016 08: 45
    10
    It doesn’t matter what you confess, the main thing is what kind of person you are and how you behave in relation to other people. There was a case, they discussed with one Chechen about our religions. We came to the conclusion that there are enough freaks everywhere. Especially annoying both were the ostentatiousness of certain ministers and followers of a particular religion. PS I am Orthodox. And then suddenly someone will have fantasies.
  6. Michael67
    Michael67 6 February 2016 08: 58
    +5
    "It doesn't matter what you confess, the main thing is what kind of person you are and how you behave in relation to other people." And then it is important how all this diversity is used by Western experts to incite hatred and war. They will further escalate the situation on religious grounds. It is beneficial for them.
  7. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 6 February 2016 09: 28
    +1
    It is necessary to cultivate "one's own" Islam, which is inextricably linked with the history of Russia and patriotism.
    1. alone
      alone 6 February 2016 10: 46
      +2
      Quote: vladimirvn
      It is necessary to cultivate "one's own" Islam, which is inextricably linked with the history of Russia and patriotism.


      In the concept there is no "own" and alien "Islam, there is one Islam.
      1. Darkness
        Darkness 6 February 2016 11: 16
        0
        But the Islam that is preached in the Arab countries, is it the same as in Russia or slightly different?
      2. Seal
        Seal 6 February 2016 11: 18
        +2
        It is necessary to cultivate "one's own" Islam, which is inextricably linked with the history of Russia and patriotism.

        I suppose this meant for example:

        The Battle of Kushka, which took place on March 18, 1885, will be called the Battle of Tashkent. It was preceded by the fact that the leaders of the English department for determining the borders between Russia and Afghanistan provoked the advance of Afghan troops to the Pendinsky Oasis. It was not possible to resolve the issue peacefully, and then a Russian detachment under the command of General A.V. approached the border Komarova.
        While the Russian infantry occupied the bridge, Lieutenant Colonel M. Alikhanov-Avarsky, at the head of the cavalry, which included two hundred Turkmen mounted police, crossed the Kushka River and attacked the enemy troops. The balance of power was one to four in favor of the Afghans, and therefore the attackers were in a difficult position. After the commander of the police detachment was killed in a saber battle, the ranks of the horsemen mixed. But Alikhanov, rushing towards them, cried out in Turkmen: “Either win, or die!” - and the soldiers, encouraged, rushed into the slaughter.
        As a result, the attack of the imperial detachment led to the fact that the Afghans lost 600 people killed, eight guns and two banners, after which they retreated to Herat. More peace of the Russian border in Turkestan was not violated.
        Seven years later, the Turkmen horse militia was transformed into the Turkmen equestrian - irregular division, and in 1911 - into the Turkmen equestrian division.
        The Turkmen cavalry regiment loudly made itself known in Poland, in a battle near the village of Duplice-Duje (near the town of Lovic) on November 16, 1914. Then, in the early morning, the German infantry moved towards Russian positions. In the fog they managed to get to Duplitz. But this maneuver was noticed by the Turkmens, and the Central Asian cavalrymen launched an attack on the enemy, which was much superior in strength.
        Their swift raid was unexpected for the Germans. Correspondent of the Moscow newspaper "Russian Word" V.I. Nemirovich-Danchenko wrote: “The blows of our Asian heroes were both terrible and lightning fast. The dead are bifurcated from shoulder to waist. The raid of these destructive horsemen was such that no one was left from the small square of enemies moving for their protection. Once again, the war showed us what a magnificent fighting material we possess beyond the sands and deserts of the Caspian Sea ... "
        The valor of the Turkmen cavalrymen in the fighting on the German front did not go unnoticed by the army command: for two and a half months of participation in the war, 67 horsemen were awarded the St. George Crosses, over 70 people - orders of St. Stanislav and St. Anne of various degrees, as well as medals.
        On March 31, 1916, Nicholas II ordered the Turkmen cavalry unit “to be called henceforth the Tekinsky cavalry regiment,” since it consisted mainly of Tekins living in the oases of Akhal and Merv.
      3. prishelec
        prishelec 6 February 2016 15: 50
        0
        Quote: lonely
        Quote: vladimirvn
        It is necessary to cultivate "one's own" Islam, which is inextricably linked with the history of Russia and patriotism.


        In the concept there is no "own" and alien "Islam, there is one Islam.

        Well, of course, there is only one Islam, but the current is different - that is what the comrade meant!
    2. Darkness
      Darkness 6 February 2016 11: 17
      0
      Why cultivate obscurantism?
    3. baudolino
      baudolino 7 February 2016 09: 57
      +1
      Religion is a very handy tool to manipulate. As soon as the fact of this manipulation from the outside disappears, there will be no questions about the "varieties of Islam".
  8. populist
    populist 6 February 2016 09: 31
    +2
    And if you do not take into account the radical trends, it becomes clear that the spiritual values ​​accumulated by this religion allow the most diverse peoples and nationalities to live peacefully here.

    Yes, yes, everyone coexists peacefully in this Caucasus.
    Is the author so naive or is he fooling us all?
  9. cap
    cap 6 February 2016 09: 31
    0
    The phrase "Divide and conquer!" Who said, you know? What does it mean to "divide and conquer" and who was guided by this principle?
    "Where did these words come from and when did they appear? To begin with, let's try to delve into the very origin of the term" Divide and Conquer. "Who said it is not completely known, since the phrase itself in its purest form appeared in legal written sources only in the 19th century She was present in the letter of the German author Heinrich Heine, where he points out that for the first time this phrase was uttered by the famous ruler of Macedonia, Philip, the father of Alexander the Great. place in many other countries that existed in the ancient period. For example, according to the generally accepted version, historians believe that such a policy occupied a fundamental position in the politics of the Roman Empire, since the very expression "divide et impera" in most sources sounds precisely in Latin. that this was the most common form of government of the Roman Senate, their credo for life.

    The Anglo-Saxons advanced even further, spreading this formula to the whole world. am
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    1. Seal
      Seal 6 February 2016 11: 03
      +2
      Quote: cap
      She was present in a letter from the German author Heinrich Heine, where he indicates that this phrase was first uttered by the famous ruler of Macedonia, Philip, father of Alexander the Great.

      Well, yes, and G. Heine somehow miraculously bought a verbatim record of the speeches of Philip of Macedon from the descendants of the personal stenographer of Philip :)))

      In fact, this principle is reflected in the book of Machiavelli "Sovereign".
      Therefore, the duke decided to no longer rely on someone else's weapon, or on someone else's protection. First of all, he weakened the parties of Orsini and Colonna in Rome; he lured all the nobles who held their side to his service, determining their high salaries and, in accordance with his merits, gave out places in the army and command, so that in a few months they lagged behind their parties and turned into adherents of the duke. After that, he began to wait for the opportunity to deal with the leaders of the Orsini party, even earlier ending with Colonna. The case presented itself as good, but he took advantage of it even better. Orsini, having realized that the strengthening of the Church threatens them with death, gathered for a council in Magione, near Perugia. This advice had many dire consequences for the duke - first of all, the rebellion in Urbino and the outrage in Romagna, which he, however, managed to cope with thanks to the help of the French.
      Having restored its former influence, the duke decided not to trust either France or any other external force, so as not to endanger himself in the future, and resorted to deception. He also averted Orsini's eyes, that they first reconciled with him through Signor Paolo - whom the duke accepted with all sorts of expressions of courtesy and bestowed clothes, horses and money - and then in Sinigalia they themselves surrendered innocently to his hands. So, having finished with the leaders of the parties and lured their adherents to himself, the duke laid a very solid foundation of his power: under his authority was the whole of Romagna with the duchy of Urbino and, most importantly, he was confident in the affection of the people who had experienced the virtues of his rule.
      This part of the duke's actions is worthy of attention and imitation, why I would like to dwell on it especially.
  10. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 6 February 2016 09: 33
    +4
    It is necessary to add here that some of the peoples (Adygs, Kabardians, Abkhazians, Ossetians) were pagans for a long time, then they adopted Christianity, and then Islam. The relationship among the Circassians is more regulated by "Khabze" (a set of laws and customs) than Islamic laws.
    1. The black
      The black 7 February 2016 07: 19
      +3
      (Adygs, Kabardians, Abkhazians, Ossetians) were pagans for a long time, then converted to Christianity, and then Islam
      Most Ossetians are Christians. There are Christians among Abkhazians and Kabardians.
      The relationship among the Circassians is more regulated by "Khabze" (a set of laws and customs) than Islamic laws.
      This is true. The Chechens too.
      1. OCD
        OCD 9 February 2016 10: 08
        0
        I am not sure that most Ossetians are Christians. There are Muslims, there are Christians. But most Ossetians profess the traditional Ossetian religion. To answer this question, you need to have a correct understanding of the traditional Ossetian religion. To do this, one should abandon the opinion that the indigenous spiritual tradition of Ossetians is an isolated phenomenon that has no connection with world culture. In fact, this system is quite holistic and has retained the features of ancient Indo-European religions. Moreover, not only external ritualism and ritual was preserved, but also ideology, not separable from the oral epic heritage of the people. Almost everything has been preserved that can reconstruct the whole picture of the worldview of our ancestors. If we don’t have any details, then on the basis of a comparative method we can turn to the religious systems of other kindred cultures that have preserved a huge number of similar features not only in epic tales and rituals, but also in the names of the main groups of deities, we can turn to the heritage of the ancient sages, in order to understand the original meaning of the sacred action that interests us. The Ossetian code of life rules and religious relations is much more severe than Christianity and Islam. Many vital provisions are not fulfilled today, and people are moving away from them. To understand the essence of religious relations, one must be born and grow up in Ossetia, because in a short period of time to figure it out is simply not realistic.
    2. OCD
      OCD 8 February 2016 11: 16
      0
      Ossetians have never been pagans.
  11. xavbek7
    xavbek7 6 February 2016 09: 39
    +7
    RELIGION-OPIUM FOR THE PEOPLE! In small doses, anesthetize, a little more hapnet-stupefying! But getting down oh how difficult ....
  12. Darkness
    Darkness 6 February 2016 09: 59
    +4
    Every religion in Russia, and later in the world, should occupy the meso that it occupied in the USSR. At the state level, exclusively scientific atheism should be promoted.
    1. dauria
      dauria 6 February 2016 11: 32
      +1
      must take the place she occupied in the USSR


      I agree, moreover, about the Brezhnev era, they did not give free rein, but they also did not spread rot. I remember that I baptized my son (to calm her grandmother), instead of a passport, the officer’s ID (of course, there was no registration). 15 rubles instead of the 5 set resolved the issue. smile
      By the way, it was then that I had access to believers and priests really respectful attitude (like offended, or what?). And now I’m looking at Putin and Medvedev in a church with a bunch of TV men-tfu, I want to spit.
  13. alone
    alone 6 February 2016 10: 44
    +8
    But until the middle of the 19th century, among the descendants of the Alans and Adygs, worship of the cross was noted, Easter and Christmas were celebrated, Issa (Jesus) and Maryam (Mary) were especially revered. And only the murid movement has finally pushed this paradigm into the margins of public consciousness.


    The author either did not read the Qur'an, or simply doesn’t say anything. There are surahs about Jesus and Mary in the Qur'an (May Allah be pleased with them). Muslims have always treated Jesus and Mary with reverence. We Muslims often call their children by their names (Issa and Maryam) .It is interesting if the author knows about it, why does not he emphasize it?
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    2. miru mir
      miru mir 6 February 2016 12: 58
      0
      In the Quran, a lot of interesting things are written wink
    3. Free wind
      Free wind 6 February 2016 12: 59
      -3
      the Qur'an says, Jesus declared himself the son of God, but Allah has no children, therefore Jesus is an apostate and apostate followers. I know it.........
      1. alone
        alone 6 February 2016 16: 54
        +6
        Quote: Free Wind
        the Qur'an says, Jesus declared himself the son of God, but Allah has no children, therefore Jesus is an apostate

        The Qur'an is told that Jesus the messenger of God is the prophet of ISSA.
    4. prishelec
      prishelec 6 February 2016 16: 08
      +1
      Quote: lonely
      .In the Qur'an there are surahs about Jesus and Mary (May Allah be pleased with them). Muslims have always treated Jesus and Mary with reverence. We Muslims often call their children by their names (Issa and Maryam). It is interesting if the author knows about this, why doesn't emphasize this?

      I completely agree! But, talking about some things, lol and you understand the "ancient" religions ..!
  14. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 6 February 2016 10: 51
    +3
    Quote: lonely
    Quote: vladimirvn
    It is necessary to cultivate "one's own" Islam, which is inextricably linked with the history of Russia and patriotism.


    In the concept there is no "own" and alien "Islam, there is one Islam.

    Yes, Islam is one, but the interpreters are different. How many trends are there in Islam? They put on "convenient" quotes and preach what is beneficial to them.
    1. alone
      alone 6 February 2016 12: 40
      +3
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Yes, Islam is one, but interpreters are different


      That's right. That's what we must fight with interpretations that distort the essence of Islam. To develop the concept of "your Islam" is the same distortion.
  15. Seal
    Seal 6 February 2016 11: 43
    +2
    Mr. Lysenko N. F. This phrase
    But until the middle of the 19th century, among the descendants of the Alans and Adygs, worship of the cross was noted

    what does she mean? Should you understand that by the middle of the 19th century, in your opinion, there were no longer either Alans or Circassians, but there were some of their "descendants", who were not known how they were called?
    And in my opinion and in the middle of the 19th century there were and now are Alans and Circassians. The older generation of the present Alans and Circassians, of course, has descendants (grandchildren, great-grandchildren). I believe that the older generation of Alans and Circassians of the mid-19th century also had grandchildren and great-grandchildren (descendants). It was they (grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the older generation of Alans and Circassians of the mid-19th century) who, in your opinion, worshiped the cross, while their fathers and grandfathers went to mosques?
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 7 February 2016 22: 40
      0
      I don’t remember exactly when the Circassians ceased to be Christians, it seems, earlier than in the 19th century. But in the Maykop Museum (and not only) there are many items of Adyghe life with crosses.
  16. Old warrior
    Old warrior 6 February 2016 12: 06
    0
    He was interested in the topic: everyone interprets Islam as he sees fit, and therefore a huge variety of different sects, trends and currents. Sorry, Islam itself is an interesting religion.
  17. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 6 February 2016 12: 27
    +1
    In fact, no matter what "currents" a Muslim professes, there are two main goals for every Muslim in life: the Great Jihad and the Small Jihad. Every Muslim must lead a great Jihad within himself, that is, he must fight temptations, get rid of all bad habits that are imposed on him by a "weak body" and "weak spirit" and become enlightened to join "pure" Islam. Small Jihad is obliged to lead every Muslim with the infidels for the establishment of Islam in the whole world, he is obliged to lead the Jihad both in word and deed. Islam is the only religion that, in addition to establishing control over the body and mind of a person, requires its followers to fight for the establishment of the complete domination of this religion throughout the world. The apologist for this religion is Judaism, the religion of "blood", that is, the religion of one nation is inaccessible to others. Both Islam and Judaism are characterized by "bloody oaths" of fidelity to religion - "circumcision".
  18. maganaskan91
    maganaskan91 6 February 2016 14: 01
    +1
    Faith was preserved only thanks to individual ascetics who mechanically read the Koran in Arabic
    Forced to disagree with this thesis of the author. Since he studied religion and Islam with a person who went through the persecution of the Reds. His whole family was deported to Kyrgyzstan. Himself left because of small years. Here always studied in secret. Yes, there were no connections with the outside world, but the acceptance science from tsarist times remained. We studied in the basements of mosques. For students they went anywhere. For example, my teacher was in Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and here, of course, in Dagestan. Now he has a madrassa in a neighboring village where to study 80 children. and so in each district. for example, in the region of 5 madrassas, etc. everything is done so as not to miss Wahhabism to us. But teachers are also being killed for some reason. More than 50 alims have been killed in 15 years.
  19. prishelec
    prishelec 6 February 2016 16: 37
    +1
    "If it appeared in Dagestan and part of Chechnya back in the 6th century,"
    That’s right, it’s good when they tell the truth,)) Some people don’t stop repeating that the Chechen-Ingush adopted Islam only 300 or 400 years ago, I’m sure that the author knows a lot of other interesting things!)) But you can’t say it, it’s contrary to fairy tales!))

    Here is one source -
    "that Nokhchi have been in Islam since the time of Mohyammad. This is even written in the book of Sheikh Safi Ar-Rahman Al-Mubarakfuri" The Life of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and greet him "in A. Nirsch's translation, ed. 1, 2002. In the chapter "Delegation" we read literally the following:
    “During the ninth and tenth years of the AH, the delegations arrived in Medina one after another. For example, the authors of biographies and books on military campaigns mention a number of delegations who arrived from Yemen, as well as delegations of such tribes as al-ezd and Banu Sa'd Hazim from the group of tribes Kuda, Banu Amir bin Qays , banu asad, bakhra, khaulian, muharib, banu-l-haris bin ka'b, hamid, benu-l¬muntafik, salaman, banu 'abs, muzaina, murad, eabid, kinda, zu murra, gassan, banu' aish and finally, the last delegation of the Nah tribe. This delegation consisted of two hundred members and arrived in Medina in the middle of the month of Muharram in the eleventh year of the AH. Most of the delegations of the above tribes visited Medina in the ninth and tenth years of AH, and only a fraction of them visited there in the eleventh year. "
    Nakhi are Chechens, Ingush, and Batsbians.

    In general, the article is controversial, but spit for such a truth! fellow
  20. Marmarosh
    Marmarosh 6 February 2016 18: 22
    +1
    Quote: Free Wind
    but Allah has no children

    You want to say that Allah has only slaves?
  21. Seal
    Seal 6 February 2016 22: 06
    0
    Quote: prishelec
    al-ezd and Banu Sa'd Hazim from the Kuda'a group of tribes, Banu Amir bin Qays, Banu Asad, Bahra, Haulyan, Muharib, Banu-l-Haris bin Ka'b, Hamid, Benu-lmuntafik, Salaman, banu 'abs, muzaina, murad, eabid, kinda, zu murra, gassan, banu' aish and, finally, the delegation of the nah tribe, which was the last.

    Commercials you on essentially empty place what theory developed. If we take your point of view that the tribe "nakh" you mentioned is really Nokhchi (nakhchi), and not, for example, the Nakhchivans, then the question will arise. And, what, these nakh-nakhchis were the only ones who arrived in Medina from the North Caucasus? The probability that they are the only ones, as you yourself understand, given the abundance of Muslim peoples in the North Caucasus, and none of them consider the Nakhs (Nokhchi) either pioneers or their teachers, is negligible. That is, it tends to zero. This means that in order for your hypothesis to receive at least some right to exist, you need to find at least 2-3 more tribes in the above list of tribes, which can also be identified with tribes from the North Caucasus.
    Can you do this conclusively?
    If you can, then show and prove.
    If not, then it should be admitted that the mentioned tribe "Nakh" is just one of the numerous Arabian tribes, only by pure chance consonant with the current name of the community, as you write, Chechens, Ingush and Batsbi.

    In general, treat history with healthy skepticism. What was before the 16th century AD is in such a fog that it is impossible to reliably discern anything. Only shadows are dimly visible. And out of these vague shadows, the assumptions and hypotheses of various authors grew, who wrote books on historical topics over the past 300-hundred years, how events there, in antiquity, in their PERSONAL opinion, could develop. We are not teaching real history. We memorize other people's hypotheses, recognized by the sect called "historians" - the only true.
    1. prishelec
      prishelec 7 February 2016 03: 06
      0
      Nahi, this is the Chechens self-name nokhchi - from the prophet Noah. In the Caucasus, the Nakh peoples are Chechens, Ingush, and Batsbians, they used to be a single people - living on both sides of the Caucasian ridge, over time the Ingush and Batsbians separated from the Chechens, Nakh - translated from Chechen (people) and Adamash - are also people, and Adam is a man! Besides them in the Caucasus, and in general in the world there have never been any other nakhah!
      Quote: Seal
      Something you essentially empty on a place which theory developed.

      you still say that they were born just three hundred years ago,)) as the Pashkovs, Mashkovs, etc.!
      1. Seal
        Seal 7 February 2016 07: 30
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        you still say that they were born just three hundred years ago,)) as the Pashkovs, Mashkovs, etc.!

        This cry from the heart is the only "proof" of your theory, voiced in the commentary dated 06.02. at 16:47? Well, I thought so. The usual trick that has long been imposed on everyone's teeth. The algorithm of your demagogic technique has long been known to everyone.
        1) Put forward an absolutely unproven theory.
        2) And when asked to provide real evidence, then you need to make an offended face and proudly say "And you also tell ... that the Earth does not revolve around the Sun" :)

        Again. Any real evidence that the "nakh" tribe you mentioned is really Nokhchi (nakhchi), and not, for example, the Nakhchivans, or, more likely, that the mentioned "nakh" tribe is just one of the many Arabian tribes, just by pure chance consonant with the current name of the community, as you write, can you imagine the Chechens, Ingush and Batsbi?
        Or do you just really want the "nakhchi" mentioned in the text to be perceived by everyone as "nakhchi" by their pure consonance?

        Well, if someone else, for example, wants that you admitted that the Inca fortress Sacsayhuaman in Cuzco (Peru) was built by the Saxons, do you admit this "discovery" on the basis of a mere coincidence of sounds?

        About the 16th century. Well, bring some WRITTEN source (document) clearly dated from the time of its writing before 1500 ....
        1. prishelec
          prishelec 7 February 2016 13: 15
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          Quote: Seal
          Well, bring some WRITTEN source (document) clearly dated from the time of its writing before 1500 ....

          And you give a written source that this is not so!
          Well, why am I offended, but no, it's the other way around, you are hysterically trying to deny with foam at your mouth that they were Chechens.
          I gave you a link to the site, here there is a lot of evidence, more than enough!
          Quote: Seal
          The algorithm of your demagogic reception has long been known to everyone.

          Such as you deny everything that is said in favor of the Chechens, demagogy, however, is Russian! wassat
          1. Seal
            Seal 7 February 2016 16: 18
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            Well, the continuation of the well-known graphomaniac techniques. If it is impossible to show evidence, then graphomaniacs are recommended to switch to epithets addressed to the opponent, such as: "Rolling their eyes madly"; "Splashing with saliva"; "Foaming at the mouth" and so on.

            And you give a written source that this is not so!
            What do you bring? I said that there are no documents clearly dated before 1500. If you have a document clearly dated from an earlier year and Chechens are mentioned there, present it. If you have nothing, then honestly admit that there is nothing. Do you even know what honesty is?

            Such as you deny everything that is said in favor of the Chechens. demagogy, however, Russkiy!

            Demagogy is not a denial of unprovenness.
            Demagoguery is an attempt to prove something that has no evidence, using demagogic tricks, as I already pointed out, "Tell me more"; "And you bring a document that those fantasies about which I am soaring your brains here did not exist."
            Not a single nation, including Chechens, needs exaltation on the basis of unproven fantasies that have come to someone’s head.

            Now the logic is why Nakhis cannot (should not) be identified with Nokhchi.

            How often, during at least 10-15 years preceding the event, the description of which you gave, Nokhchi came to Medina by such large delegations or trade caravans. The answer is never, right? Or will you present evidence that the Chechens BEFORE they regularly visited Medina? Can you imagine anything !!
            And if such a delegation of strangers, both in appearance and in conversation, in dress, and in arms clearly different from the Medina Arabs and neighbors of the Medina Arabs, arrived for the first time, then the author would certainly give a more detailed description of the nakhs, rather than just indicating them numbers. And if the author did not pay any special attention to the Nakhs, except that they arrived last among 200 delegates, then this fact can mean only one thing. Namely, that the Nakhs were so well known to both the author and the Medina Arabs that the author did not even think of describing them. And this in turn means that
            Nakhis were one of the many Arab tribes well known to the Medina Arabs.

            And further. Do Chechens have at least some cycle of folk tales, songs or legends about how once upon a time all (or not all) representatives of Chechen families gathered in one place (in which) in order to choose the most worthy of those worthy of the trip to Medina as delegates, how the election of delegates took place, representatives of which clans were included in the delegation and why, representatives of which clans were rejected and why.

            Is there at least some cycle of folk tales or legends, how did the Chechen delegation get to Medina, how was it met in Medina?

            Is there at least some cycle of folk tales or legends about the return of the Chechen delegation, did everyone arrive or someone died (died) on the way, how did the delegates meet at home?

            After all, there is NOTHING !!!
            1. prishelec
              prishelec 7 February 2016 17: 45
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              Quote: Seal
              Now the logic is why Nakhis cannot (should not) be identified with Nokhchi.

              Do you deny that nahi is nokhchi?
              So you want to say that eminent scientists recognized around the world who believe that Nakhis are Chechens-Nokhchi are wrong ?! Do you know better than these scientists and the Chechens themselves that the Chechens are nahi or not? I gave you a link to a site where it is written in detail who the Chechens are, where facts and evidence are given, about everything that you take off. Go there and prove to the author of these works that he is wrong! Here are some details - http://www.nohchidu.com/njaz/dnjaz/nin.html

              Here the ancient Nakh-Chechen vocabulary - http://www.nohchidu.com/njaz/dnjaz/dnl
              Quote: Seal


              then the author would certainly give a more detailed description of the nakhs, rather than just an indication of their numbers.

              Well, the author and about other tribes did not provide a detailed description, because -
              Quote: Seal
              Namely - that the nahs were so well known

              Yes Yes exactly!
              1. Seal
                Seal 7 February 2016 19: 36
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                Do you deny that nahi is nokhchi? So you want to say that eminent scientists recognized around the world who believe that Nakhis are Chechens-Nokhchi are wrong ?! Do you know better than these scientists and the Chechens themselves that the Chechens are nahi or not?


                Not so long ago, all eminent scientists recognized around the world believed that this Sun revolves around the Earth. So what ?

                Scientists beyond the Earth are now many millions. And if a dozen of them think that Nakhi is nokhchi, having no evidence of this fantasy, except for the coincidence of sounds, then this is a problem for these scientists, not mine.

                And if you really want everything to be built on the likeness of harmonies, then here's another stick. The Nakhchivan people are much more suitable for the role of Nakhis than Nokhchi.
                As the German philologist G. Hubshman notes, the toponym Nakhichevan comes from the Armenian prefix “nah” and the word “Ijevan”, and means “the place of the first landing”.
                PS The word "scientist" in the plural is written with one "n".
            2. prishelec
              prishelec 7 February 2016 18: 59
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              Here, too, about Nakhov-Chechens! When something was accepted, and all that - http://www.nohchidu.com/2009-12-28-12-29-03/2009-12-28-13-02-58.html
              1. Seal
                Seal 9 February 2016 08: 33
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                Here, too, about Nakhov-Chechens!


                I said that this Chechen hyperborean can laugh, seeing his reflection in the mirror, because his ears are on his side.
                Fu-u, I finally found this nonsense for this Hyperborean Chechen.

                2. Abu Imran Ibrahim ibn Yazid ibn Qais ibn al-Aswad al-Nahai al-Yemeni al-Kufi. (666-714 / 46-96).

                The great scientist of the generation of tabiins. Al-Nahai was from the Yemeni tribe of Nahabut with the advent of Islam, he moved to Kufu. As a child, he went to Hajj with his uncle Aswad and met there with Aisha - the wife of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). There he spoke with such companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) as Zeid ibn Arkam, Mugira ibn Shu'ba and Anas ibn Malik. The uncle of Ibrahim's mother was Alkama ibn Qais, and the uncles of Ibrahim himself were Aswad ibn Yazid, Abdurrahman ibn Yazid, each of whom was a great scientist of his time and little Ibrahim had the opportunity to learn from them.

                In addition to them, he studied with Masruk ibn Adday, Abid al-Salmani, Ikrim al-Barbari and Kada Shureikh. For some time he helped Kadi Shureykh in the courts and later transferred this experience to subsequent generations. Hadith was taught and transmitted from Nahai by many scholars who played an important role in the formation in Kufa of the fiqh method called “ra'y”. Among these students are Hammad ibn Abu Suleiman, A'mash, Ibn Aun, Ata al-Saib, Abdullah ibn Shubrum. At one time, Nahai and Sha'bi were the most prominent scholars of Kufa. There are many hadiths that he transmitted, but the Companion of the Prophet (ﷺ) is unknown in the chain of transmitters. Nahai was the strongest student of Alkama ibn Qais and died in Kufa during the reign of Valid ibn Abdulmalik.
        2. prishelec
          prishelec 7 February 2016 14: 54
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          Here is the cry of the soul [/ quote]

          Why so? On the contrary, I laugh at all kinds of Peshkovs, Pakhalovs, and people like you!))
          1. Seal
            Seal 7 February 2016 16: 24
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            Quote: prishelec
            Why so? On the contrary, I laugh at all kinds of Peshkovs, Pakhalovs, and people like you!))

            Yes, you can even laugh at your own reflection in the mirror, every time you see that your ears are on your side :)))
            And normal people usually laugh at all kinds of unproven fantasies.
            1. prishelec
              prishelec 7 February 2016 17: 48
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              Quote: Seal
              Yes you can laugh

              Yes, I laughed, and laugh at you, you are so funny!))
              1. Seal
                Seal 7 February 2016 19: 17
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                Yes, I laughed, and laugh at you, you are so funny!))

                And what else remains to be done for the dreamer caught in the arm? Well, all that remains is to do a good face with a bad game. negative
                Mr. good, evidence of your fantasies will either be me and you will spam me in your personal mail with links to exactly the same fantasies, only of other authors.
                Here is an example of Joseph Karst.
                “Chechens are not actually Caucasians, but ethnically and linguistically sharply differ from other mountain peoples of the Caucasus. They are the offspring of the great Hyperborean-Poleo-Asiatic tribe moved to the Caucasus, which stretched from Turan through northern Mesopotamia to Canaan. "fool fool fool

                What a fad? I thought, why did the Ukrainians suddenly begin to declare themselves as the descendants of some "great proto-ukrov" who dug up the Black Sea? Did they figure it out themselves or who suggested? It turns out that the Ukrainians simply took an example from the "great Hyperborean Chechens" fool

                Chechens - Displaced to the Caucasus
                Yes, what you have the Chechens have nothing else to do, as soon as move from "Hyperborean Turan" to the Caucasus, then from the Caucasus to Kazakhstan and Central Asia (apparently back to the same "Hyperborean Turan"), then back to the Caucasus. laughing

                And I warn you - you will spam me with all sorts of crap in your personal mail - I will add you to the black list. There is documentary or logical evidence of your fantasies - lay it out. No - have the courage to admit that you have nothing but an ardent desire to be cooler than the "great prototypes".
                1. prishelec
                  prishelec 7 February 2016 21: 31
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                  Ahh you are Armenian wassat why didn’t they say right away ?! There is more documentary evidence confirming that they are Chechens, not Armenians! And they are listed on this site. From time immemorial, the Nakh-Nokhchi have considered that they are the descendants of Noah - from him and the name of the people - Nokhchi!
                  Armenians, like Ossetians, have been given part of the history of the Nakh-Chechens!

                  In this picture, the capital of the Erivan Khanate, Erivan, as we see is a purely Muslim city ... Nothing remained of these fortress walls of mosques and Khan's palaces, they destroyed everything and mainly in the Soviet period. There is not a single historical building in the city, all the buildings of the Soviet period, some in the Greco-Roman style to give antiquity, and the city was built in the 16th century by the Safavids as an outpost against the Ottoman Empire, by Khan Ravan, then two Ogus states fought among themselves, hence the name Iravan, from where the Armenians found Yerevan is not clear. here is the city in the picture -

                  "In the minds of millions of people who are not sophisticated in geography, Mount Ararat is associated with Armenia. It is even inscribed on the national emblem of Armenia, although in reality it is located on the territory of Turkey and has never belonged to Armenia. Moreover, they hide from us that the Armenians They are not actually a Caucasian people.The fact is that there was no Armenia in the Caucasus until 1828. It was created on Azerbaijani territory after Russia's victory in the war with the Persians. Having conquered the Azerbaijani Erivan fortress, the Russians called on Christians to settle in this part of the then Azerbaijani territory. Since that time, the mass resettlement of Armenians from the territories of Iran and Turkey to the lands of the Erivan Khanate, which had never belonged to them before, began. At the same time, the local Muslim population was squeezed out of their ancestral territory. Documentary evidence of this fact is given in Fuad Akhundov's film "A Country That Did Not Exist. .. Armenia in the Caucasus? ". Such a state as Armenia, in ancient times, It never existed, however, to create the illusion of the opposite, the Armenian falsifiers tied their history to the prophet Noah, declaring themselves to be his descendants. From this, Mount Ararat, where the ark of Noh allegedly landed, appeared on the Armenian coat of arms. "

                  Do you know that both Ararat, Nakhichevan, and Erivan are read in the Nakh-Chechen language ?! Do you know that Sumerian tablets, Aramaic texts, etc. are read in the Nakh-Chechen language ?!
                  Okay enough, and said so much.
                  1. Seal
                    Seal 9 February 2016 08: 38
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                    Well, nobody has ever called me an Armenian :))))))))))))) However, as I have long noted and continue to celebrate, the transition to the search for the nationality of the opponent is a hallmark of Nazis of all stripes. Only the moron Nazi believes that the truth to some extent depends on the person of what nationality pronounced it.
                    It is true that before you I was mainly attacked by the Armenian Nazis, who (just like you now), having no argument against my words, began to wildly yell that I was Turkish or Azerbaijani. Now you are also added to this glorious company of Armenian Nazis, with which I congratulate you.

                    I said that this Chechen hyperborean can laugh, seeing his reflection in the mirror, because his ears are on his side.
                    Fu-u, I finally found this nonsense for this Hyperborean Chechen.

                    2. Abu Imran Ibrahim ibn Yazid ibn Qais ibn al-Aswad al-Nahai al-Yemeni al-Kufi. (666-714 / 46-96).

                    The great scientist of the generation of tabiins. Al-Nahai was from the Yemeni tribe of Nahabut with the advent of Islam, he moved to Kufu. As a child, he went to Hajj with his uncle Aswad and met there with Aisha - the wife of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). There he spoke with such companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) as Zeid ibn Arkam, Mugira ibn Shu'ba and Anas ibn Malik. The uncle of Ibrahim's mother was Alkama ibn Qais, and the uncles of Ibrahim himself were Aswad ibn Yazid, Abdurrahman ibn Yazid, each of whom was a great scientist of his time and little Ibrahim had the opportunity to learn from them.

                    In addition to them, he studied with Masruk ibn Adday, Abid al-Salmani, Ikrim al-Barbari and Kada Shureikh. For some time he helped Kadi Shureykh in the courts and later transferred this experience to subsequent generations. Hadith was taught and transmitted from Nahai by many scholars who played an important role in the formation in Kufa of the fiqh method called “ra'y”. Among these students are Hammad ibn Abu Suleiman, A'mash, Ibn Aun, Ata al-Saib, Abdullah ibn Shubrum. At one time, Nahai and Sha'bi were the most prominent scholars of Kufa. There are many hadiths that he transmitted, but the Companion of the Prophet (ﷺ) is unknown in the chain of transmitters. Nahai was the strongest student of Alkama ibn Qais and died in Kufa during the reign of Valid ibn Abdulmalik.
                2. prishelec
                  prishelec 7 February 2016 21: 40
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                  Quote: Seal
                  Chechens - Displaced to the Caucasus

                  Chechens never left the Caucasus, that is, some of them in ancient times went to the Middle East, and then returned, and some remained there, but all the people completely never left the Caucasus!
                  When you read, you must read fully, then you will understand.
                  1. Seal
                    Seal 9 February 2016 08: 39
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                    I said that this Chechen hyperborean can laugh, seeing his reflection in the mirror, because his ears are on his side.
                    Fu-u, I finally found this nonsense for this Hyperborean Chechen.

                    2. Abu Imran Ibrahim ibn Yazid ibn Qais ibn al-Aswad al-Nahai al-Yemeni al-Kufi. (666-714 / 46-96).

                    The great scientist of the generation of tabiins. Al-Nahai was from the Yemeni tribe of Nahabut with the advent of Islam, he moved to Kufu. As a child, he went to Hajj with his uncle Aswad and met there with Aisha - the wife of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). There he spoke with such companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) as Zeid ibn Arkam, Mugira ibn Shu'ba and Anas ibn Malik. The uncle of Ibrahim's mother was Alkama ibn Qais, and the uncles of Ibrahim himself were Aswad ibn Yazid, Abdurrahman ibn Yazid, each of whom was a great scientist of his time and little Ibrahim had the opportunity to learn from them.

                    In addition to them, he studied with Masruk ibn Adday, Abid al-Salmani, Ikrim al-Barbari and Kada Shureikh. For some time he helped Kadi Shureykh in the courts and later transferred this experience to subsequent generations. Hadith was taught and transmitted from Nahai by many scholars who played an important role in the formation in Kufa of the fiqh method called “ra'y”. Among these students are Hammad ibn Abu Suleiman, A'mash, Ibn Aun, Ata al-Saib, Abdullah ibn Shubrum. At one time, Nahai and Sha'bi were the most prominent scholars of Kufa. There are many hadiths that he transmitted, but the Companion of the Prophet (ﷺ) is unknown in the chain of transmitters. Nahai was the strongest student of Alkama ibn Qais and died in Kufa during the reign of Valid ibn Abdulmalik.
                3. prishelec
                  prishelec 8 February 2016 02: 07
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                  Quote: Seal
                  then from the Caucasus to Kazakhstan and Central Asia

                  Well, this is all because Nokhchi is the "youngest" ethnic group whose language and customs are only from Noah, and from the time of Noah to the present day they are present in them and observe them. Unlike the "ancient" gypsies, and burr!
                  1. Seal
                    Seal 9 February 2016 08: 39
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                    I said that this Chechen hyperborean can laugh, seeing his reflection in the mirror, because his ears are on his side.
                    Fu-u, I finally found this nonsense for this Hyperborean Chechen.

                    2. Abu Imran Ibrahim ibn Yazid ibn Qais ibn al-Aswad al-Nahai al-Yemeni al-Kufi. (666-714 / 46-96).

                    The great scientist of the generation of tabiins. Al-Nahai was from the Yemeni tribe of Nahabut with the advent of Islam, he moved to Kufu. As a child, he went to Hajj with his uncle Aswad and met there with Aisha - the wife of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). There he spoke with such companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) as Zeid ibn Arkam, Mugira ibn Shu'ba and Anas ibn Malik. The uncle of Ibrahim's mother was Alkama ibn Qais, and the uncles of Ibrahim himself were Aswad ibn Yazid, Abdurrahman ibn Yazid, each of whom was a great scientist of his time and little Ibrahim had the opportunity to learn from them.

                    In addition to them, he studied with Masruk ibn Adday, Abid al-Salmani, Ikrim al-Barbari and Kada Shureikh. For some time he helped Kadi Shureykh in the courts and later transferred this experience to subsequent generations. Hadith was taught and transmitted from Nahai by many scholars who played an important role in the formation in Kufa of the fiqh method called “ra'y”. Among these students are Hammad ibn Abu Suleiman, A'mash, Ibn Aun, Ata al-Saib, Abdullah ibn Shubrum. At one time, Nahai and Sha'bi were the most prominent scholars of Kufa. There are many hadiths that he transmitted, but the Companion of the Prophet (ﷺ) is unknown in the chain of transmitters. Nahai was the strongest student of Alkama ibn Qais and died in Kufa during the reign of Valid ibn Abdulmalik.
              2. Seal
                Seal 9 February 2016 08: 34
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                I said that this Chechen hyperborean can laugh, seeing his reflection in the mirror, because his ears are on his side.
                Fu-u, I finally found this nonsense for this Hyperborean Chechen.

                2. Abu Imran Ibrahim ibn Yazid ibn Qais ibn al-Aswad al-Nahai al-Yemeni al-Kufi. (666-714 / 46-96).

                The great scientist of the generation of tabiins. Al-Nahai was from the Yemeni tribe of Nahabut with the advent of Islam, he moved to Kufu. As a child, he went to Hajj with his uncle Aswad and met there with Aisha - the wife of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). There he spoke with such companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) as Zeid ibn Arkam, Mugira ibn Shu'ba and Anas ibn Malik. The uncle of Ibrahim's mother was Alkama ibn Qais, and the uncles of Ibrahim himself were Aswad ibn Yazid, Abdurrahman ibn Yazid, each of whom was a great scientist of his time and little Ibrahim had the opportunity to learn from them.

                In addition to them, he studied with Masruk ibn Adday, Abid al-Salmani, Ikrim al-Barbari and Kada Shureikh. For some time he helped Kadi Shureykh in the courts and later transferred this experience to subsequent generations. Hadith was taught and transmitted from Nahai by many scholars who played an important role in the formation in Kufa of the fiqh method called “ra'y”. Among these students are Hammad ibn Abu Suleiman, A'mash, Ibn Aun, Ata al-Saib, Abdullah ibn Shubrum. At one time, Nahai and Sha'bi were the most prominent scholars of Kufa. There are many hadiths that he transmitted, but the Companion of the Prophet (ﷺ) is unknown in the chain of transmitters. Nahai was the strongest student of Alkama ibn Qais and died in Kufa during the reign of Valid ibn Abdulmalik.
          2. Seal
            Seal 9 February 2016 08: 33
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            I said that this Chechen hyperborean can laugh, seeing his reflection in the mirror, because his ears are on his side.
            Fu-u, I finally found this nonsense for this Hyperborean Chechen.

            2. Abu Imran Ibrahim ibn Yazid ibn Qais ibn al-Aswad al-Nahai al-Yemeni al-Kufi. (666-714 / 46-96).

            The great scientist of the generation of tabiins. Al-Nahai was from the Yemeni tribe of Nahabut with the advent of Islam, he moved to Kufu. As a child, he went to Hajj with his uncle Aswad and met there with Aisha - the wife of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). There he spoke with such companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) as Zeid ibn Arkam, Mugira ibn Shu'ba and Anas ibn Malik. The uncle of Ibrahim's mother was Alkama ibn Qais, and the uncles of Ibrahim himself were Aswad ibn Yazid, Abdurrahman ibn Yazid, each of whom was a great scientist of his time and little Ibrahim had the opportunity to learn from them.

            In addition to them, he studied with Masruk ibn Adday, Abid al-Salmani, Ikrim al-Barbari and Kada Shureikh. For some time he helped Kadi Shureykh in the courts and later transferred this experience to subsequent generations. Hadith was taught and transmitted from Nahai by many scholars who played an important role in the formation in Kufa of the fiqh method called “ra'y”. Among these students are Hammad ibn Abu Suleiman, A'mash, Ibn Aun, Ata al-Saib, Abdullah ibn Shubrum. At one time, Nahai and Sha'bi were the most prominent scholars of Kufa. There are many hadiths that he transmitted, but the Companion of the Prophet (ﷺ) is unknown in the chain of transmitters. Nahai was the strongest student of Alkama ibn Qais and died in Kufa during the reign of Valid ibn Abdulmalik.
            1. Seal
              Seal 9 February 2016 17: 59
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              But clearly from the name itself follows An-nahai (that is, from the Naha tribe), al-Yemen (from the country of Yemen). Al-kufi - indicates that he then moved to Kufu.

              There is another prominent Islamic theologian, in whose name An-Nahai is present. This is Abu Shibl Alkama bin Qais bin Abdullah bin Malik al-Nahai al-Kufi.

              This is how fantasies based on the random coincidence of sounds are dispelled.
              And how much was the ambition of our hyperborean lol
              However, he turned out to be not very smart, but arrogant Nazi.
  22. SlavaP
    SlavaP 7 February 2016 00: 15
    +1
    In my opinion, with Islam as a religion, there is no particular problem, the problem with its interpreters. And yet - Islam is the youngest of the world religions and the same thing is happening in it now as in Christianity in the 12-15th centuries, that is, confusion, disagreements, religious warriors, increased intolerance and aggressiveness. May my fellow Muslims forgive me, but Islam urgently needs a reformation. And all learned sheikhs and ulema need to sit down together and think hard about how to live on and combine the "traditional" rules of Islam with the realities of the modern world.
    1. maganaskan91
      maganaskan91 8 February 2016 10: 21
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      Yes, this is a very common opinion. That Islam must be updated and keep up with the times. But the Koran is not possible and is not allowed to change. The highest in the Quran said that it will protect the Koran. And it will not change for 14 centuries. And it will not change. that alims and scholars. all books and teachings are taken from the Qur'an. and only the Koran is evolved. the basis of all teachings. and if the basis is adapted for all times (and the Quran is evolved) and does not change. .
    2. maganaskan91
      maganaskan91 8 February 2016 10: 31
      0
      And the whole problem of nonsense and disagreement is that the Wahhabis and the like said that the world is changing and the rules of jihad and the like should be changed (and this despite the fact that they themselves say that they profess pure Islam) if in our teachings jihad in surrounded by enemies when there is no place to rely on when there is no military industry, etc., it is forbidden. that is, if left alone, then sit and confess, that's all. and they figured out what to fight to the end. Well, etc. this is one example of what happens if change the principles of Islam. And try to keep up to date. Islam is a religion for all time. There are no problems in Islam that cannot be solved. The main thing is to study the Koran and books that are written according to its principle.
  23. yuriy55
    yuriy55 7 February 2016 05: 38
    +1
    To cover the diversity of Islam, the article is somewhat short. For state federalism, clarifying the question of which religion is many-sided, and which is not, does not make practical sense. In a federal state, you need to get along on the basis of the law of nations and their mutual respect. Where universal human values ​​are put at the forefront, which exclude the advantage of one people over others on the basis of ... including the attitude to religion ...
    what
  24. Roust
    Roust 7 February 2016 08: 22
    -2
    All this is Crap for fools! you must believe in ONE GOD and .. only in YOURSELF!
  25. WarMachine
    WarMachine 8 February 2016 04: 17
    +1
    I have a fear of enslaving the world by Islam. What if this happens?
    1. Generalissimo
      Generalissimo 8 February 2016 04: 44
      -1
      Go to Crimea - see your previous comment. True such a fear.
      1. WarMachine
        WarMachine 8 February 2016 04: 53
        -2
        Why should I go to this squalor. Chur me
      2. WarMachine
        WarMachine 8 February 2016 04: 53
        0
        Why should I go to this squalor. Chur me
        1. Generalissimo
          Generalissimo 8 February 2016 10: 41
          0
          Then to hide from them there.