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Grimaces of the oil market

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Twists of the oil market amaze even experienced businessmen and financiers. We did not expect, they say, that someday we will pray for high oil prices. We thought that low commodity prices are good. Now we pray that low prices disappear. While some are praying, other dealers, who used to sell oil, began to buy it ... Oil-producing Venezuela buys "black gold" from its ideological adversary - the United States.




February 2 «Bloomberg» told something amazing.

It turns out that the growth of the global economy today largely relies on countries rich in oil. With cheap oil, developing countries trading in raw materials become poorer and buy fewer goods, which is why the developed countries suffer from these goods.

Over the past 75 years, recalls the publication, almost every economic crisis was preceded by a jump in oil prices. Now businessmen are worried that low energy prices will lead the world economy into a "spin".

But this is illogical! And yet, this idea is gaining more and more supporters. Journalists explain: in countries rich in oil, the share of consumers and investors is growing. And it is these countries that are now in the clutches of the crisis because of low prices for "black gold". Apple, for example, believes that the decline in sales of its products in the last quarter is due to economic problems in some countries rich in oil.

“I never thought that I would ever want to do this, not to mention the fact that I would really pray for high oil prices, but I do it!” Exclaimed Khan de Jong, chief economist at ABN Amro Bank NV (Amsterdam). According to the expert, the world "badly needs higher oil prices."

It turns out that today the world economy relies much more on developing countries than it was 15 or 25 years ago, that is, in those periods when oil prices were ultra-low. In addition, the United States in the XXI century began to compete with Saudi Arabia and Russia, the largest oil producers in the world. With the exception of China and India, most of the major developing countries today are commodity traders. Such countries currently produce about 40% of the global gross domestic product (according to the International Monetary Fund, their share has almost doubled from 1990 of the year).

The publication indicates that economic growth from Russia to Saudi Arabia, from Nigeria to Brazil, slows down, and even turns into a recession. The IMF and the World Bank are already negotiating with Azerbaijan and Suriname to issue emergency loans to them. Nigeria also asks for money from the World Bank and the African Development Bank.

In fact, it is necessary to talk about "subtracting from global aggregate demand."

Thus, if developing countries trading in oil and other raw materials experience problems in the economy, followed by those developed countries that would seem to enjoy low energy prices. The fall in revenues of oil-producing countries leads to a reduction in their consumption of high-tech western products, which bring large income to developed countries. Capitalists from these developed countries lose profits. As a result, we see a real crisis, when the decline in oil prices affects the global economy, and experts tend to assess this impact in the era of total consumerism and mass buying of iPhones as negative.

Other surprising imbalances in the oil market turn oil traders into oil buyers.

Same «Bloomberg» The following material tells about the new strategy of oil-producing Venezuela: this country now buys "black gold" from the United States.

Petroleos de Venezuela SA has already received a shipment of West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil at the end of January through a terminal on Curaçao, where Petroleos de Venezuela SA has a refinery. Two people familiar with the situation told the correspondent about it.

It was the first oil supply from the USA. Export restrictions on oil were lifted last year, the newspaper reminds.

But how so? After all, Venezuela froze diplomatic relations with the United States, and President Nicolas Maduro often blames Washington for conspiracies to sabotage his government.

It's okay, politics is politics, and oil ties between the two countries remain strong. Venezuela exported about 800.000 barrels of crude oil every day to the USA last year.

But why does Venezuela buy oil?

The problem of the state oil company of Venezuela is that, having access to the world's largest oil reserves, it is forced to use light oil from abroad, with which its oil refineries work, mixing it with heavy oil. In 2015, the company imported about 40.000 barrels per day from various countries, including Russia, Nigeria and Angola (data from Bloomberg).

And here's the result: Venezuelans bought 548.000 barrels of crude oil. This was told to Bloomberg by Matthew Smith, director of research and development company ClipperData (New York). Detailed information about the route and the tanker was given out by two people who had official information and asked the journalist not to call their names. The tanker was loaded with crude oil in the state of Texas.

“Venezuela buys light oil (no matter which one or who) in order to produce gasoline and oil products at its own refineries,” said Reedus financial analyst Dmitry Golubovsky. - The Venezuelan oil refineries, which, by the way, were built by the Americans, and which Chávez nationalized, are designed for a certain type of raw material, namely light oil. They have nothing of their own, all nationalized belonged before the world's leading companies, which rebuilt the production of their raw materials, their technology and their logistics. In this case, it was convenient for them to use light crude oil as a raw material, which is not in Venezuela. ”

In the wake of the shale boom, light oil appeared from the Americans. On the other hand, the Americans also had a hard time.

It turns out that before the shale revolution, American refineries expected to import heavy oil from Canada and Latin America. Their refineries are designed for this very heavy oil. Therefore, the United States, which has established light oil production, has to import heavy oil into the country today and dilute it with its own. This mixture is loaded their refineries.

“Why does the same Eastern Europe buy the Russian Urals despite the fact that the Arabs offer their oil cheaper? Because since Soviet times, under the "Urals" they built factories. This industry has its own chips that are not easy to change, ”Golubovsky said.

What does oil-producing Russia do?

On the eve, oil prices rose above 35 dollars per barrel. The market responds to any messages regarding the situation with the price of "black gold". News on possible negotiations in the OPEC format and Russia with the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation S. Lavrov has a positive impact on the dynamics of trading.

"As experience shows, namely the events of the end of last week, when on the statements of the government about a possible reduction in production by 5% oil, and after it the ruble showed significant growth despite the news about the growth of fuel reserves in the US, verbal interventions can really significantly affect the market - explained "Utru.ru" Director General of the MFO "Mani Fanny" Alexander Shustov. “But by and large, a“ voyage ”in exporting countries and negotiations with individual market participants are unlikely to lead to the“ oil wars ”between them subsiding and at least a precarious consensus regarding a consolidated reduction in production will be reached. The contradictions between the supplier countries, including those belonging to the cartel, have long gone beyond the confrontation only in the oil market and are increasingly moving into a phase of armed conflict. Nevertheless, statements from the side of Saudi Arabia, including that prices are lower than 30 dollars, are unprofitable even for them and threaten the stability of the market, saying that a compromise is now more than ever necessary. Russia in this case is trying to act as an intermediary, a third party, but it is important to understand that one of the goals of OPEC was to oust independent suppliers, and this is not only the United States with their road to extracting shale oil, but also Russia, which is a major competitor in the European market and continuing eastward expansion. ”

So far, no country is in a hurry to reduce production volumes. According to the latest data, Russia has updated the post-Soviet maximum: in January 2016, the production rate reached 10,878 million barrels per day, which is 1,5% more than in the first month of 2015, reminds Utro.ru.

Russia, most likely, will not go on its own to reduce oil production, and OPEC can withstand any price up to 10 dollars per barrel, according to Cyril Yakovenko, an analyst at Alor Broker. “At the same time, the decisions of the cartel that led to the collapse of oil prices, have not yet reached the goal - the destruction of producers with a high cost of production. Therefore, it’s too early to talk about a long-term price turn up, ”he said.

He is echoed by Vladislav Ginko, a teacher at the Russian Academy of National Economy and Public Administration, who believes that the price bottom of oil will not be felt as long as the nerves play. Whoever does not stand up and goes to reduce oil production will lose market share.

The other day, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich explained to the general public that the government of the country cannot regulate oil production, affecting its price.

“Russia as a state cannot flexibly regulate oil production, it is a prerogative of companies that operate in our oil sector, and they themselves make investment decisions within the framework of the existing tax regulation system. In this system, there is no government's authority to increase or decrease production volumes, ”Dvorkovich quotes. "Lenta.ru".

Vice Prime Minister believes that oil prices will rise, including due to the decline in world production. True, the official does not know where it will decline: “But it will decline not only in the United States and the countries of the Middle East, or here, I can’t answer this question.”

As for the oil price forecast, the vice-premier said the following about this: “They can fluctuate, but the price of 20-24 dollars per barrel for a year seems unrealistic to me.”

What price would be realistic for Russia? It seems that only one person in the government of the oil-producing country knows for sure: Anton Siluanov. The price is 82 dollars per barrel. He knows another thing: at a price that will be even twice as high as the 20 dollars mentioned by Dvorkovich, Russia finds itself in a long budget minus.

In December last year, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said that the Russian budget in 2016 could lose less of the order of 2% of GDP revenue, while maintaining current oil prices and the ruble exchange rate.

“The loss of next year’s budget revenues at current oil prices and rates, according to the Ministry of Finance, could be about 2% of GDP,” he quotes Interfax. “This means that in order to fulfill the task of the President’s message - to keep the deficit within 3% of GDP - measures will be needed to mobilize income, a more conservative approach to spending and measures to stimulate economic growth.”

The draft law on the budget for 2016 year provides for the volume of GDP 78 trillion. 673 billion rubles., Indicates the agency. The shortfall in revenue is estimated at around 1,6 trillion. rub.

13 January RIA News" conveyed the words of Anton Siluanov, who spoke at the session of the Gaidar Economic Forum. In his opinion, the Russian budget will be balanced at the price of oil in 82 dollars per barrel.

Here are his words:

“Our budget is balanced at the price of 82 dollars per barrel. That is, there are still a number of decisions to change the budget policy. ”


However, the 82 dollar - the same price, which can be called "unrealistic." Siluanov understands this. And therefore he says:

“Our task now is to bring the budget in line with ... new realities. Because if we said that the private sector more or less adapted to the price of oil around 40 dollars per barrel, this process now continues further in the face of declining oil prices. ”


Therefore, the endless "adaptation" of the private sector to the "new realities" (very similar to the old realities, they are the same rake) - this is what the Russian people will be doing in the near future. Obviously, the government will also “adapt”, which, in anticipation of obese years, will deal, as we think, with substantial cuts in budget expenditures and will begin to get used to chronic budget deficits — as in Yeltsin's times.

Well, and there, you see, and oil will rise in price.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 5 February 2016 06: 10 New
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    Yes, is it a quirk? Here in Russia, gasoline quirks will go up, amid falling oil prices request
    1. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 5 February 2016 06: 13 New
      0
      There is a big oil game in the world. This is for the best, small businessmen should be eliminated.
      1. apro
        apro 5 February 2016 06: 31 New
        +4
        Quote: Al_oriso
        small businessmen should be weeded out.

        Yes, no. China and other opponents of the amers should be eliminated.
        1. Al_oriso
          Al_oriso 5 February 2016 06: 40 New
          -1
          Quote: apro
          Yes, no. China and other opponents of the amers should be eliminated.

          China depends on Russia as a supplier of oil. They are in a bunch in the BRICS, the Americans will explode themselves in their attempts.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 5 February 2016 09: 01 New
            +9
            It is unlikely that the PRC believes that it depends on Russia. They build their foreign policy on the assumption that Russia is dependent on China and will not go anywhere.
          2. Wheel
            Wheel 5 February 2016 09: 20 New
            +3
            Quote: Al_oriso
            China depends on Russia as a supplier of oil.

            Does not depend.
            Russia's share in Chinese oil imports is about 11%
            Quote: Al_oriso
            They are in a bunch at BRICS

            What is BRICS?
            By and large, this is a purely declarative organization of "dynamically developing" countries.
            Russia and Brazil dropped out of the “dynamic” group.
            And now we are talking about TIKKS (Taiwan, India, China, Korea, South Africa)
          3. Mera joota
            Mera joota 5 February 2016 09: 44 New
            +6
            Quote: Al_oriso
            China depends on Russia as a supplier of oil.

            Where did you bullllllllll have read such nonsense? Where does this information come from?
            China's need for oil is 11 million barrels per day, Russia provides a supply (record 2015) of 950 thousand barrels per day, the rest is covered by domestic suppliers (yes, China has its own oil!) And other oil-producing countries. Where did you see the "addiction" here?
          4. NIKNN
            NIKNN 5 February 2016 20: 19 New
            +7
            Most Holy Hydrocarbon! Give us back oil prices of $ 100. Punish our Arab enemies. And get rid of sly shale gas!
      2. Berber
        Berber 5 February 2016 10: 45 New
        +2
        Good of course. The question is what is the time perspective. If this is for a short time, then we will stretch, and if for a long time, then we will stretch, but not all.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 5 February 2016 06: 29 New
      +3
      Anyway, no one will guess exactly how much oil will cost in a month. Too everything is interconnected
      1. Barnaul, Altai
        Barnaul, Altai 5 February 2016 15: 42 New
        +1
        I immodestly declare to what level oil can LOSE - up to 17 $ per barrel!
        And all because Russia ANNOUNCED the COST of EXTRACTION in 17 dollars!

        Now interested parties have a guideline to what value the price should be lowered ...
        Below 17 - it's better not to mine at all
    4. Pereira
      Pereira 5 February 2016 08: 59 New
      +2
      Why would gasoline become cheaper in Russia? The costs of oil companies have not gone away. To make it cheaper, it is necessary to stop its oil production and start purchasing from Saudi Arabia. Then it will become cheaper, only few will need it.
      1. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 5 February 2016 12: 42 New
        +1
        ..... Why would gasoline become cheaper in Russia? The costs of oil companies have not gone away. To make it cheaper, it is necessary to stop its oil production and start purchasing from Saudi Arabia. Then it will become cheaper, only few will need it ....

        .... And how many percent of the demand for gasoline Russia imports ????? .... Is this the answer to the question ???? ..... request
    5. Denis DV
      Denis DV 5 February 2016 09: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Here in Russia, twists and turns - gasoline will go up - amid cheaper oil

      Duc, oil, it is not only gasoline laughing petroleum jelly is cheap, and thousands more of all crap based on oil laughing
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    7. La-5
      La-5 5 February 2016 09: 14 New
      -5
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Yes, is it a quirk? Here in Russia, gasoline quirks will go up, amid falling oil prices request

      And why should gasoline in Russia become cheaper after oil? Russia does not buy oil to make gas from it, Russia itself produces oil and makes gas from it itself. Oil production in Russia is expensive, plus taxes, excise taxes, bribes, inflation and other expenses - hence the price of gasoline.
      1. edeligor
        edeligor 5 February 2016 11: 13 New
        +4
        Quote: La-5
        And why should gasoline in Russia become cheaper after oil?

        The share of oil in the price of gasoline is 7%, logistics, the profit of producers is 25%, the rest is budget revenue. What are you gentlemen about? While in the government of the Siruanovs and other Kudrinsky Dimons, we will be hunched over by oligarchs, they have up to one place all the crises and rogue compatriots behind the golden garden ring.
      2. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 5 February 2016 12: 44 New
        0
        .... Russia itself produces oil and makes gas from it itself. ...

        ... Not all ... A lot is imported .... And this is the mystery of the price .... what
      3. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 5 February 2016 23: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: La-5
        And why should gasoline in Russia become cheaper after oil? Russia does not buy oil to make gas out of it,

        In your opinion, is it better for Russia to buy oil ??? belay
        Quote: La-5
        Oil production in Russia is expensive, plus taxes, excise taxes, bribes, inflation and other expenses - hence the price of gasoline.

        Go nuts laughing
    8. yushch
      yushch 5 February 2016 09: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Yes, is it a quirk? Here in Russia, gasoline quirks will go up, amid falling oil prices request


      Well, this is how to look, for example, according to Vitalik Klitschko, gasoline has fallen in price by two times wassat
    9. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 6 February 2016 20: 14 New
      0
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Yes, is it a quirk? Here in Russia, gasoline quirks will go up, amid falling oil prices request

      If you take in dollar terms, the price of gasoline has decreased and much
  2. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 5 February 2016 06: 22 New
    +6
    Forecasts of oil prices seem to me fortune-telling on coffee (or oil) thick. Especially from Siluanov or Ulyukaev, but in the end, not a single oil ...
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 5 February 2016 07: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: Nikolay71
      Forecasts of oil prices seem to me fortune-telling on coffee (or oil) thick. Especially from Siluanov or Ulyukaev, but in the end, not a single oil ...

      But Putin, two years ago, laid everything out on the shelves.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 5 February 2016 07: 49 New
        +8
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        But Putin, two years ago, laid everything out on the shelves.

        And so all 15 years, everything on the shelves wassat
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 5 February 2016 10: 24 New
          -7
          Better on the shelves than in a complete mess.
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 5 February 2016 10: 43 New
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            Quote: Vadim237
            Better on the shelves than in a complete mess.

            Better to be silent than so "on the shelves." negative
      2. guzik007
        guzik007 5 February 2016 11: 23 New
        +2
        But Putin, two years ago, laid everything out on the shelves.
        --------------------------------------------------
        I'm not even surprised anymore. For one and the same meaning, comments put one plus, others mercilessly minus. you are very lucky: =)
        It feels like half of those present suffers at least a split personality. Either "mouth the poruzavov", then, suddenly, for a second, glimpses of consciousness appear.
    2. Wheel
      Wheel 5 February 2016 09: 23 New
      +9
      Quote: Nikolay71
      but in the end, not a single oil.

      Yes Yes Yes!
      Following a meeting with Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev on January 18, a proposal was made to the government to expand the list of excisable goods.
      It may include foods with a high content of fat and sugar (or palm oil and sugar directly), carbonated drinks, chips, electronic cigarettes.
      The excise tax is planned to be immediately at 30%, what are the little things?
      1. Bath
        Bath 5 February 2016 09: 38 New
        +8
        wassat and the air tax is a poll tax smoke, and if the serf decided isho and the hut change the sea of ​​money for the budget oil sucks
        1. Wheel
          Wheel 5 February 2016 09: 58 New
          +6
          Quote: Bath
          and the air tax is a poll tax smoke, and if the serf decided isho and the hut change the sea of ​​money for the budget oil sucks

          Still to come!
          Trash tax has already been invented!
          1. Kunar
            Kunar 6 February 2016 06: 12 New
            +1

            Pra was J. Rodari. Whatever the child was amusing, the leash would not be hung!
            And for every sage, 9 grams of lead ...
      2. guzik007
        guzik007 5 February 2016 11: 29 New
        +6
        Yes Yes Yes!
        Following a meeting with Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev on January 18, a proposal was made to the government to expand the list of excisable goods.
        It may include foods that are high in fat and sugar (or palm oil and sugar
        ---------------------------------------
        I recognize the native, bl, government! Instead of banning palm oil, from which all over the world only paint is being driven, these creatures also decided to cash in on it! They’ll give a fuck that people will die more often from bowel cancer.
        Or maybe it affects the brain, forcing to shout: "Glory to the party !?"
        Tady mustache is clear ...
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 5 February 2016 11: 49 New
          +4
          Quote: Wheel
          It may include foods with a high content of fat and sugar (or palm oil and sugar directly), carbonated drinks, chips, electronic cigarettes.
          Just don’t tell me that they are so concerned about the health of the nation.
          1. Wheel
            Wheel 5 February 2016 12: 11 New
            +4
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            Just don’t tell me that they are so concerned about the health of the nation.

            I will not say! hi lol
  3. apro
    apro 5 February 2016 06: 27 New
    +5
    My boss liked it, things went worse in the office, so he miscalculated when did oil go up in price? Is there no market mechanism for oil pricing, oil is traded in the best traditions of a gangster monopoly dictate, all these arguments have found a bottom or not meaningless and serve as a childish excuse for their worthlessness to glamorous experts. they rule with oil prices as they get to think of themselves and other people’s problems only to them.
  4. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 5 February 2016 06: 41 New
    +6
    And in Russia, their games with oil, regardless of the price on the world market, even though you donate it for nothing, our fuel rises constantly and pulls the price of everything and everything up automatically
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 5 February 2016 06: 57 New
    +4
    What does oil-producing Russia do?


    What, what ... gasoline at gas stations will go up again ... this real nonsense does not fit in my head.
    Despite the floating oil prices, gas prices in our country live according to other laws ... in general we live happily ... contrary to common sense.
    1. Apsit
      Apsit 5 February 2016 11: 39 New
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      What, what ... gasoline at gas stations will go up again ... this real nonsense does not fit in my head.

      Russia was not lucky in terms of the geographical location of proximity to permafrost, but it was lucky with the people. The people will survive everything.
      Once Matvienko was asked the question - how long will the price of gasoline rise? She smirked coquettishly and answered - as long as there is demand. This is the judgment of our leadership at the very top ... THE MARKET OF HIS MOTHER ...
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 February 2016 07: 41 New
    +1
    Good whining about gas prices. Here, for comparison: http: //autotraveler.ru/spravka/benzine-in-europe.html#.VrQksK81GrU
    In the mattress, by the way, 55 cents per liter. So they don't tell us. Yes, the price has come down. In October it was 65! On the oil market, if anyone does not know, they do not trade in oil, but in so-called "futures" - delivery contracts. So these contracts are more than ten times more than real oil! And the oil price is determined not by the producers, but by the holders of these contracts. Therefore, the options for panic price jumps - the other day oil jumped by almost 10% in a couple of hours - in general, it is not producers with real supply contracts that dictate prices in the world market ...
    1. Ilya77
      Ilya77 5 February 2016 09: 11 New
      +5
      And how much is the average salary in the USA?
    2. Wheel
      Wheel 5 February 2016 09: 29 New
      +9
      No, of course, I agree not to whine, if I get a European salary. laughing
    3. Stas157
      Stas157 5 February 2016 09: 29 New
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      On the oil market, if anyone does not know, they do not trade in oil, but in so-called "futures" - delivery contracts. So these contracts are more than ten times more than real oil! And the oil price is determined not by the producers, but by the holders of these contracts. Therefore, the options for panic price jumps - the other day, oil leaped by almost 10% in a couple of hours - in general, it is not producers with real supply contracts that dictate prices in the world market ...

      Where did this myth come from? Recently, very often our grief journalists write about it! By the way, you still forgot about options, they also trade oil, but this does not mean that with the help of derivatives you can crash the oil market like that! The fact is that futures and options are urgent instruments, the most liquid futures are traded for a period of 3 months, and options total less than a month. Then follows the expiration of these tools! And this means you need to close a position and go out in money, that is, if you sold futures (short), then in order to go back into money, you need to buy it (long). And this moves the price in the opposite direction! The price of oil is affected only by real demand and real supply! I already wrote about this not long ago in the comments.
      I think oil will be for a very long time at low levels! We must understand that Russia is not the victim of a fall in oil prices, but the most active player in the oil market! Amid falling demand for oil, primarily China, it is Russia, together with Saudi Arabia, that is increasing oil supply, setting records for the production and sale of oil! It is Russia with its actions that pursues an aggressive policy to increase oil supply in the face of falling oil consumption. In the meantime, supply exceeds demand, oil will fall down to zero! Until the proposal collapses for natural reasons, due to the ruin of part of the oil production! What is the most interesting?
      Yes, you do not need to take a big rebound for a change in the downtrend in oil.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 5 February 2016 12: 27 New
        +2
        do not trade in oil, but in so-called "futures" - delivery contracts. So these contracts are more than ten times more than real oil!

        I will try to explain more clearly. Futures could move the price of oil if they all went into the commodity at the end of expiration, that is, into real oil. But, in fact, more than 90% of futures do not live up to expiration and go out of the money! Thereby they compensate for their influence on the price of oil.
    4. lame
      lame 5 February 2016 09: 39 New
      +6
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In the mattress, by the way, 55 cents per liter.

      1. That is, there is almost 42 rubles gasoline. And how much is the salary?
      2. Let’s bring down the ruble two times more (yes, two or ten times) and raise the price of gasoline in rubles. So we will look even more advantageous with the United States at the price of gasoline. In rubles, of course. But for some reason the people will not get any easier from this "gain".
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 5 February 2016 11: 07 New
        +2
        This is outdated gasoline data at 55 cents per liter. In "mattress" the price of gasoline dropped below $ 1 per gallon (3,78 liters)! That is, 1 liter costs about 15-17 rubles.
        Here is the link http://www.zr.ru/content/news/840655-benzin-v-ssha-stal-stoit-deshevle-vody/
        1. denis02135
          denis02135 6 February 2016 03: 24 New
          +1
          Dear Snail N9

          The price of gas today I refuel 1,78 per gallon, the cheapest I found (3,74 liters), the minimum wage in Masachussets is 10 bucks per hour.
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 6 February 2016 03: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: denis02135
            The price of gas today I refuel 1,78 per gallon, the cheapest I found (3,74 liters), the minimum wage in Masachussets is 10 bucks per hour.

            The normal topic is benz, as we have 38 rubles each, and the minimum is obtained for our 120tys.

            You, please, publish how much the housing and communal services, gas., Light well, etc.
            Any info is useful!
            Thank you! hi
            1. denis02135
              denis02135 8 February 2016 21: 14 New
              0
              Dear PHANTOM-AS

              Everywhere in different ways. If you have to pay an apartment, the so-called condo-fi. I have it $ 450 (in my house, depending on the number of bedrooms or the area of ​​the apartment, I have the most expensive one since there are three rooms), this includes heating, hot and cold water, cleaning the area and houses, garbage collection, building insurance still have to pay $ 50-120 for gas, $ 30-60 for gas, everyone has $ 70-150 for the Internet and TV (depending on Internet speed and the number of TV channels) + building repair is paid separately but these are contingencies. Total 800 is two weeks with a minimum wage. But you still have to pay the bank for a mortgage. I have 850; this includes paying the bank 600 and a housing tax of 250 (but since I bought an apartment for a long time at low prices, 600 is still not bad) Somehow.
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  7. lame
    lame 5 February 2016 09: 30 New
    +4
    a government that, in anticipation of obese years, will, as we think, engage in substantial budget cuts and begin to get used to the chronic budget deficit - as in Yeltsin’s times.

    They would, critters, reduce the costs of their salaries, incomes, maintenance, to begin with, looking, and other expenses would not have to be reduced.
  8. Bath
    Bath 5 February 2016 09: 40 New
    +7
    Quote: Ilya77
    And how much is the average salary in the USA?

    oh straight without a knife cut a blow below the waist)))
  9. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 5 February 2016 09: 51 New
    +1
    Who wanted gasoline for half a dollar? If you are driving a car equipped with a blue flashing light, it is not at all necessary that you are cool. Perhaps you are being taken to intensive care.
  10. Ruslan Shevela
    Ruslan Shevela 5 February 2016 10: 21 New
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    The topic of oil is everywhere, soon there will be disputes about oil sites for children. Well, it falls, then it grows, then it falls again, what else can I add, it is necessary to develop other industries and there are no problems. I was more struck by another slander against Azerbaijan in this article, but Aliyev said that the IMF did not ask for money, and why should he contact Lagarde when Russia is near and will always help
  11. triglav
    triglav 5 February 2016 10: 41 New
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    The Government needs smart people, specialists in finance and economics. Let them think about how to "untie" the ruble from oil. Moreover, in comparison with other oil countries, our oil is also worse in quality, and is produced at higher (and much higher) costs. It's time to move away from selling raw materials. We need to develop our technologies and trade high quality finished products. As an example - weapons and military equipment.
    1. Fat
      Fat 5 February 2016 11: 32 New
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      Quote: triglav
      Moreover, in comparison with other oil countries, our oil is worse in quality, and it is produced at higher (and much higher) costs. It's time to move away from the sale of raw materials. We need to develop our technologies and trade high-quality finished products. As an example - weapons and military equipment.

      Yes technology and production need to be developed! And what kind of bad Russian oil are you talking about?
      The Russian mixture URALS approximately corresponds to the BRENT standard. Russian Siberian Light is very close to WTI, and light oil from Sakhalin Vityaz is generally a "song" in terms of characteristics - similar only to Oman being produced. I doubt that BRENT oil production in the North Sea is much cheaper.
  12. Berber
    Berber 5 February 2016 10: 50 New
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    They put too much on oil, hence all the problems. When we were told that we gas station had to take this into account and draw conclusions. Yes, oil export is good. But making such investments in one industry is stupid.
  13. Damask
    Damask 5 February 2016 11: 11 New
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    It’s just that the incompetent leadership is in power, without thinking they make the budget for currency conversion, oil falls, they raise the ruble, and the country will receive the same amount of rubles from the sale of oil as before, when the oil was at 100 and the dollar at 26 rubles, economists fucking, they poher on the population think about their ass, you can not get out of the chair
  14. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 5 February 2016 11: 15 New
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    For the Russian government, expensive oil / ruble is bad. cheap oil / ruble - even worse
    Something always disturbs a bad dancer.
  15. fsps
    fsps 5 February 2016 11: 23 New
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    It's actually simple. The market (more precisely, monopoly) economy is fundamentally unstable, and without external regulation, it is instantly hated. The times when there were many small independent producers and the market was stable, 100 years have passed since. Simply, the goal of the economy should not be to squeeze out profits, but to ensure the survival of the people and their even bearable existence, there will not be enough Mercedes for everyone. And this is socialism, "branded with a curse." Read Stalin!
  16. Belousov
    Belousov 5 February 2016 12: 21 New
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    Now the economy is in fact governed by politics and where prices will go, why they will move and how far away they will be determined not at exchanges and processing enterprises, but in the quiet of the Phishington and New York offices.
  17. gray_angel
    gray_angel 5 February 2016 12: 44 New
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    [quote = edeligor] [quote = La-5] And why should gasoline in Russia become cheaper after oil? [/ quote]
    Because in a country with a developed market economy, goods always become cheaper after raw materials, the other thing is that in Russia, 75% of the price of gasoline is an excise tax ...
  18. vlad_vlad
    vlad_vlad 5 February 2016 13: 35 New
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    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: Vadim237
    Better on the shelves than in a complete mess.

    Better to be silent than so "on the shelves." negative


    about silence:
    What really surprises me is that Gazprom & Friends has been composting for 10 years in Russia all the brains that shale gas / oil is a hoax. Now that shale gas / oil has brought down the markets and everyone is meticulously counting how many hundreds (!!) shale drilling operations / shut down in America - everyone is SILENT! and to ask Gazprom, or is it better to ask C Gazprom for technological idiocy and news about the "lie about the shale revolution" - do not get their hands on it? the fact that Gazprom itself is modestly silent on this topic is a no brainer.
  19. walrus-a
    walrus-a 5 February 2016 14: 32 New
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    State Duma deputies from "Fair Russia" sent an appeal to the head of the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Alexei Ulyukaev, in which they proposed to ban the sale of oil abroad for five years, and also to develop a strategy for the development of the country's domestic economy by abandoning oil dependence, Ita-TASS reports. to take measures to trade oil not for "candy wrappers"?
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 5 February 2016 19: 27 New
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      Our slowly refueling abroad sell.
      Lukoil sells 230 gas stations in Lithuania, Latvia and Poland
      LUKOIL Europe Holdings BV (a subsidiary of Lukoil) and the Austrian AMIC Energy Management GmbH signed a contract to sell about 230 gas stations in Lithuania, Latvia and Poland. The transaction will be closed in the second quarter of 2016 after agreement with the regulatory authorities of Lithuania, Latvia and Poland.
      http://rusvesna.su/economy/1454680591

      Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia has reduced the price of its oil for the EU, clearly acting on the orders of the United States.
  20. ingener1966
    ingener1966 5 February 2016 23: 40 New
    +2
    I’ll leave my 5 kopecks in the piggy bank ..... I don’t understand anything, what the hell is that ??? wassat Cheap energy is good for production !!! winked Or are all economists crazy !? Something like that ........ No matter how we tried everything sucks ... Expensive oil, sitting on a needle, cheap, also bad. B ...... if you already decide in the end, otherwise I can’t even figure it out as an engineer in YOUR (most democratic) economy angry