Who destroys the Russian industry. State Duma Deputy Leonid Kalashnikov about the defeat of the Volga engineering plant

Precision machines, which in the whole of Russia are just a few, were removed from the spot without following the rules, just to be quick. Volumes of documentation - a real treasure trove of unique technologies - were piled in trash bales. Something in order to accelerate all flew through the windows in front of Togliatti people passing by. The pogrom took place during the New Year holidays and was not yet completed when Vladimir Putin signed an extremely important document for Tolyatti - “List of instructions on the results of testing the effectiveness of measures to accelerate import substitution processes in the automotive industry.” Each item of it puts out of the state interests of Russia many actions of the current leadership of AvtoVAZ OJSC, including the liquidation of related enterprises.

Of course, the destruction of the VMP was justified by its non-core and unprofitableness. If someone does not know, Andersson (president of AvtoVAZ - ed.) Explains all his actions with these terms from the moment he arrived in Togliatti. If earlier it somehow “rolled”, then in the case of such a unique enterprise it can convince only the hottest fans of the talents of the Swedish manager. And what, it is interesting, opinions about Vyksa were other foreign experts? “VMZ is like a big modern supermarket where you can buy everything you want!” I have not seen in the world of factories with such a huge range of products ”- the words of Akira Sakurai, Vice President of Nissan Motor Co., Ltd.

You can understand it - full workshops of modern equipment, providing a full production cycle of high-precision products, including machine tools and robots own development and a wide variety of specializations. In addition to AVTOVAZ's instructions, the Volzhsky Machine-Building Plant carried out orders from a number of domestic enterprises. He performed until in 2014 he again became part of the car factory. Loss, you say? In 2015, VSW could make a profit of more than eight billion rubles. But he did not receive it solely at the behest of the VAZ authorities, who rejected the orders as "non-core".

Here it is important to know which customers Andersson called non-core. The termination of the release of VSW of just one nomenclature of parts - roller-screw transmission caused problems and dependence on foreign suppliers in the enterprises of the automotive industry, aircraft manufacturing, nuclear energy, and, most importantly, the military-industrial complex. And such strategically important parts and assemblies VMP produced dozens of items!

At the end of 2015, one of the leading organizations of Rostec State Corporation - Tekhnodinamika JSC sent a letter to the AvtoVAZ management, which tried to prevent the ruin of VMZ. Interaction with the Togliatti plant allowed AO to create a promising aviation and space technology. Now, of course, not a war, but Russia is in confrontation with a bloc of powers unfriendly to us. With one hand, the country, for once, is conducting an independent foreign policy worthy of its status. And another invites a foreign citizen, who began to destroy its defenses. What else can you expect from him?

Are machine tools and mechanical engineering really not needed at all in our country ?! But in the 2011 year, while in Tolyatti, President Putin said: “I consider it necessary to pay special attention to the development of the domestic machine tool industry. Machine tool manufacturing is an industry that provides all the strategic areas of the engineering and defense industry. ” And the signing by Vladimir Vladimirovich of the aforementioned “List of Instructions” makes it clear that the auto industry and related industries are an important part of the development line of the Russian Federation. That's just without the capabilities of Vyksa, this important part becomes vanishingly small. Only one-fifth of the equipment uprooted from the plant’s workshops will be installed at AVTOVAZ. Everything else is transported to an open area, allegedly for sale. But any expert will say that several weeks of spending the night in the open air means certain death for such a technique.

The VSW team was an elite cadre of mechanical engineering - now, after firing, these literally golden people, instead of fulfilling orders for the needs of the defense, automotive, aerospace and aviation, will engage in handicrafts in the garages. The important component of AVTOVAZ was destroyed, the economy of the whole city was undermined, the base was broken out from under the whole branches of the Russian industry. A rare opportunity to provide import substitution at the level of its own engineering and its own high-tech products has been missed. Major Andersson and not such a shoulder ...

Comments

[onix757]

That's right, one sausage shop built has 3 large enterprises destroyed

[Pravdarm]

This is sabotage! Where do you think? Who!
Question, B.lin, rhetorical!
The answers are "at the top"! (On a surface)

[onix757]

Quote: Pravdarm

This is sabotage! Where do you think? Who!

This is a liberal industrial policy in which the term "sabotage" is absent as such

[Maxom75]

That's right - this is the basis of a liberal economy, it’s not profitable now to break everything down and transfer it to China, and then in the case of sanctions, we begin to grieve and dream that we will be forgiven now and the sanctions will be lifted. Liberals are dreamers and, as a rule, fantasies are unfounded.

[Altona]

Quote: Maxom75

Liberals are dreamers and, as a rule, fantasies are unfounded.

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And the Liberal is a hell of a mountain? This is not only Navalny, Sobchak or Gozman. This is the same United Russia, which is pursuing an anti-popular policy and for which half ran to vote in September last year in the local elections. And in December and January she received notice of layoffs or salary cuts. Such enterprises, with more than 1000 people, cannot be disbanded by a chok. In such enterprises, there should be a collective council as in Germany, because one worker feeds his family, and this is already 4 people. And by dispersing a team of 1000 people, the owner deprives 5000 people of food. Are these things not obvious to the state? And after that, it considers itself social ..

[Maxom75]

I vote for the Communists, I understand that they will not come to power, but at least let the talkers in the Duma spoil the blood. I am a supporter of the position that large enterprises and concerns (especially raw materials) should belong to the state, and therefore to all citizens. But medium and small enterprises should be private. The main customer for innovation - it should be the state! Only the state has the necessary volume of orders and financial opportunities, and the state should develop the country according to a plan that would take into account the interests of the majority of the population!

[Altona]

Quote: Maxom75

I vote for the Communists, I understand that they will not come to power, but at least let the talkers in the Duma spoil the blood. I am a supporter of the position that large enterprises and concerns (especially raw materials) should belong to the state, and therefore to all citizens.

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I also adhere to this position. I also vote in protest. The state is saturated with liberals only in our country, and state ownership or participation nonetheless enriches management and curators. That's the hassle ...

[vlad_vlad]

"The main customer for innovations is the state!"


fun. We (and in many other countries I know) have a major customer for innovation, which is private business. In 2015, the amount of investment in research and innovation of private companies in Germany hit $ 60 billion. The state has invested about 7 billion.

[Altona]

Quote: vlad_vlad

fun. We (and in many other countries I know) have a major customer for innovation, which is private business.

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Let's not replace the concept. "Private business" is usually multinational corporations, whose budget exceeds the budget of many states. And they are dragging some kind of industry, and "small business" - PR specialists, programmers, stylists, designers and other crap feeds next to it. In Russia, the role of a super corporation was played by the state, it was the main customer and driver of growth.

[vlad_vlad]

that is, you think that the official (who invests other people's money) knows better where to go and how much to invest than the private person who invests his money?

[Altona]

Quote: vlad_vlad

that is, you think that the official (who invests other people's money) knows better where to go and how much to invest than the private person who invests his money?

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No, I believe that the state should set priorities, bearing in mind scientific planning and intersectoral balance, and not stupid administration in the form of an official. The official generally believes that it is best to spend people's budget money on walnut chairs, a Toyota Prado with a leather interior and a Swiss watch. And to celebrate corporate parties with Penkin and Beyonce, depending on the budget ... The fact that the official acts as a moderator and administrator is bad. There is no normal planning in the state and we have thieves in power, and not those who were engaged in real business. At least some.

[v-sorok]

A lot of private traders invest their money ??? Bank loans! The state is being milked again. Again, as soon as some kind of zakavyka, give me money, the state !! Remember the Sayano-Shushenskaya HPP. It seems like a private enterprise, but an emergency happened, there is no money for repairs and restoration. And not a single "owner" will uncork his jar!

[Altona]

Quote: v-sorok

A lot of private owners invest their money ??? Bank loans! Again the state is milked. Again, as soon as some kind of hassle, give money, the state !! Remember the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric station.

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And for good, for such things, the banal execution of everyone up to Chubais was obvious. In general, the maintenance of engineers is much cheaper than the maintenance of oligarchs ...

[andrew42]

In theory, for this, such an official at his post is needed. Otherwise, why is he at all?

[andrew42]

I wonder what the same "innovative" private business would do, if it did not have lobbyists in government agencies? Yes, it would have flown into the pipe, if without a "cap" that pushes the necessary orders. acts. Already got fed with fairy tales about "paid toilets".

[bovig]

Quote: vlad_vlad

"The main customer for innovations is the state!"


fun. We (and in many other countries I know) have a major customer for innovation, which is private business. In 2015, the amount of investment in research and innovation of private companies in Germany hit $ 60 billion. The state has invested about 7 billion.

Where is the German cosmonautics? By the way, as a pioneer of rocket science, at least ... Or doesn’t this kind of innovation need private business?)))) What do you mean by the term innovation? Climate control in a personal car, or the super-comfort of a street dry closet?))))

[ochakow703]

I don’t really know. I stand up for the German, probably internationalism has woken up. I turn to you bovig. Where is the Russian auto industry? Where is the Russian civil aviation industry? And in the end, climate control in the Lada - an open or closed window! Well, they did. We have to work hard, and here ... on the one hand the government is neutered, on the other - an advanced thief.

[Altona]

Quote: ochakow703

And in the end, climate control in the Lada - an open or closed window! Well, they did.

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Well, what is stopping you from doing climate control systems? Bearing in mind the huge car sales. Just in order not to be a lone handicraftsman who screws handicraft impellers onto handicraft electric motors, you need to negotiate with someone in this market, and first of all with the car manufacturer. To prove to him that your pribluda will be the best on the market. Here's how the inconsistency turns out. Instead of standing in the car market with your "best system in the world" you have to go and negotiate with someone, look for an investor, launch an advertising campaign.

[vlad_vlad]

Hi Ochakov, I visited you, ate fried gobies :-)
The main private investors are innovations and developments in Gemania - automobile companies, chemistry and pharmaceuticals, mechanical engineering and electronics, etc. in decreasing order. Of course, large companies are ahead (Mercedes, VW, Siemens, BASF, Bayer, Bosch ...) but in Germany the average family business is very strong - companies from 50 to 500 million euros in turnover.

[Altona]

Quote: vlad_vlad

but Germany has a very strong average family business - companies from 50 to 500 million euros in turnover.

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Launch you postmodernism in full - the release of analogs in China, gaster, taxation and expensive credit and grunts with female genitals your entire "family business" and "welfare state" ...

[bovig]

Quote: ochakow703

I don’t really know. I stand up for the German, probably internationalism has woken up. I turn to you bovig. Where is the Russian auto industry? Where is the Russian civil aviation industry? And in the end, climate control in the Lada - an open or closed window! Well, they did. We have to work hard, and here ... on the one hand the government is neutered, on the other - an advanced thief.

Well, you have nothing to argue with, but your questions are not for me, but for Russian private business !!! Who drives his investments offshore, and the civil aviation industry was closed with second-hand Boeings, and the auto industry was handed over to the Varangians ... Or maybe you saw my personal fault in this?))) One of my sons-in-law worked as a mechanic in one of the divisions mentioned in article of the plant, so I personally had to take part in its further employment ... And why? But because we have no domestic business, our state is somehow virtual, the government is thieving, and the president is not known whose "manager" ... There are NO responsible persons! What investments can there be and, most importantly, where?)) And Germany is also a pity ...

[ochakow703]

Yes, God forbid. Of course, there are no questions for you, just a discussion. In many ways, I agree with you, somewhere I myself experienced all the delights of individual entrepreneurship, somewhere friends, relatives. Let's just say that everything that is not stolen or created without a shaggy hand is doomed to failure. My friend started breeding fish, carp, and carp. He took the land for rent, re-registered his land share from agricultural land to inconvenience, i.e. exchanged part of the grassland for an unnecessary ravine for anyone. Built dams, spillways, floodgates. The result was a cascade of seven ponds with a total area of ​​about 18 hectares. (the land share with his wife was 20 hectares). He successfully worked until his farm began to bring real profit. And then it began! Environmentalists, sanitary epidemic, forest protection, tax authorities and other bandits. In the end, they found a violation of land legislation - one (the uppermost) pond was created as a water regulator for the period of spring flood, and most of it went beyond the boundaries of the leased land, so the geography and relief lay (although all in one ravine). Six years of struggle, three years ago the seizure of property and a year later the breakdown of the cascade dams ... (another very dark story) A friend had a stroke ... Interestingly, at the state level, did these tons of beautiful fish interfere? I think no. But they, like a splinter, overthrew the priests of local bureaucrats, who have not enough brains for clever business, and they don’t like sharing with loafers (such). Here is the average producer. And on the resource center (this is such a district accounting department) one more floor is sculpted, bookkeepers are not included. So our thoughts and aspirations are similar. I don’t know about the revolution, but Stalin is desperately needed!

[STALK1974]

We now have a similar situation with the local DOSAAF flying club. While the leader and local enthusiasts raised the flying club (the only one in the North-West), they found money, repaired the planes, bought old ones, restored them, no one needed the fuck. And now when the profit began to bring , from Moscow, bureaucrats from DOSAAF said: But give us 7% of the profit, otherwise we won’t sign the permit, and we don’t shake our fingers when the men of the last forces kept the club afloat. Here’s how you prepare the draftees for VS. DOSAAF.

[bovig]

Quote: STALK1974

We now have a similar situation with the local DOSAAF flying club. While the leader and local enthusiasts raised the flying club (the only one in the North-West), they found money, repaired the planes, bought old ones, restored them, no one needed the fuck. And now when the profit began to bring , from Moscow, bureaucrats from DOSAAF said: But give us 7% of the profit, otherwise we won’t sign the permit, and we don’t shake our fingers when the men of the last forces kept the club afloat. Here’s how you prepare the draftees for VS. DOSAAF.

And this is the modern essence of the state within the framework of the globalization project ... The main task (and the bureaucrats by ignorance do not know what they are doing) is to discredit the role of the state as a social institution and transfer this function to corporations as slave owners ... After all, from time immemorial it was - concern for the needs of slaves burdens the slave owner ... And the state assumes the role of collector of tribute and tribute, that is, ideally, the role of the parasite, gradually freeing itself from social functions ...

[ochakow703]

In our region, the DOSAAF Aeroclub "Pilot" was killed according to the same scheme. The same Muscovites. And everything was. Excellent flight and technical personnel, equipment - airplanes, gliders, a helicopter, it was even planned to bring a Czech-made jet trainer, an airfield and a bunch of buildings to flight condition. Now there is nothing! Everything is overgrown with weeds. But there are hundreds on the basis of this club! boys and girls took their first steps into the sky. And so, the insatiable Muscovites closed the sky!

[bovig]

Quote: ochakow703

Yes, God forbid. Of course, there are no questions for you, just a discussion. In many ways, I agree with you, somewhere I myself experienced all the delights of individual entrepreneurship, somewhere friends, relatives. Let's just say that everything that is not stolen or created without a shaggy hand is doomed to failure. My friend started breeding fish, carp, and carp. He took the land for rent, re-registered his land share from agricultural land to inconvenience, i.e. exchanged part of the grassland for an unnecessary ravine for anyone. Built dams, spillways, floodgates. The result was a cascade of seven ponds with a total area of ​​about 18 hectares. (the land share with his wife was 20 hectares). He successfully worked until his farm began to bring real profit. And then it began! Environmentalists, sanitary epidemic, forest protection, tax authorities and other bandits. In the end, they found a violation of land legislation - one (the uppermost) pond was created as a water regulator for the period of spring flood, and most of it went beyond the boundaries of the leased land, so the geography and relief lay (although all in one ravine). Six years of struggle, three years ago the seizure of property and a year later the breakdown of the cascade dams ... (another very dark story) A friend had a stroke ... Interestingly, at the state level, did these tons of beautiful fish interfere? I think no. But they, like a splinter, overthrew the priests of local bureaucrats, who have not enough brains for clever business, and they don’t like sharing with loafers (such). Here is the average producer. And on the resource center (this is such a district accounting department) one more floor is sculpted, bookkeepers are not included. So our thoughts and aspirations are similar. I don’t know about the revolution, but Stalin is desperately needed!

What to add - I don’t even know ... Only + and with both hands FOR!)

[Altona]

Quote: ochakow703

He took the land for rent, re-registered his land share from agricultural land to inconvenience, i.e. exchanged part of the grassland for an unnecessary ravine for anyone. Built dams, spillways, floodgates. The result was a cascade of seven ponds with a total area of ​​about 18 hectares. (the land share with his wife was 20 hectares).

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Well done man. And what you described further is the deeds of our valiant EP-bureaucracy and their "business-gifted" wives and offspring. They do not hesitate to ask for a "small share" and enter the list of founders without doing anything ...

[11 black]

Quote: bovig

Where is the German cosmonautics? By the way, as a pioneer of rocket science, at least ... Or doesn’t this kind of innovation need private business?)))) What do you mean by the term innovation? Climate control in a personal car, or the super-comfort of a street dry closet?))))

I don’t know about the Germans, but I heard about the American private space program. Let it be known that the State SpaceX 22 of December last year launched immediately 11 satellites on Falcon-9 media, while the medium was saved - not bad for a private office

[atalef]

Quote: bovig

What do you mean by the term innovation? Climate control in a personal car, or the super-comfort of a street dry closet?))))

And this is the same as on protons and unions, you do not fly to the cottage and do not use the ISS toilet.

[beck]

in Germany, what percentage is considered profitable? 5 or 10%, or maybe even less. and here, if there is no profit at 200%, then no one will take up the matter, ours must be quicker to grab and topple either into power in order to continue stuffing in a pocket, or over a hill for permanent residence.

[ultra]

Quote: vlad_vlad

We

I am extremely happy for you! I hope we will have a different way.

[Makk]

Blessed is he who believes.

[ochakow703]

This is how private companies work in Germany, but in Russia they work differently. Only today to try something, and tomorrow at least don't dawn ... Look, we have even such a colossal construction project as the construction of a cosmodrome was not without space theft. So there seems to be both control and supervision ... and what is happening at the "smaller" objects, there is a rod of up to 60% of budget funds inflating estimates, making cuts and kickbacks. The thief sits on the thief and drives the thief. Until there is a clear legislation "Stole - sat down with complete confiscation", nothing will change. And these laws are doomed to failure under the current leadership. So then, Mr. German.

[Altona]

Quote: ochakow703

It is for you in Germany that is how private companies work, but for us in Russia they work differently. Only today to stiffen, and tomorrow at least do not dawn ...

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This is called the "investment climate" and "entrepreneurial culture". What trend is set by the state, it turns out. In our country, half of the state's income comes from the sale of hydrocarbons, so industrial policy outside the context of the defense industry is of no interest to anyone. It's just that those who have previously grabbed the industry are trying to squeeze something out of it. Bolotin and Deripaska, for example.

[Vitaly72]

As for the stolen-villages, I agree with you, today the guys robbed the store on the TV, fifty thousand, they really soldered a dozen, this is certainly right, but what about farts and his deaf ,,, no words

[Damask]

I completely agree, I still need to check what bucks went through buying and plunder during the drunk

[bhdir1946]

They tried at the first "coming to the post" of Putin. The answer will not be revised. Open the Basic Law of the Country and read who should own the Power? But who really owns? "voters. On a handful of people. and their loved ones. In reality, in such a country with huge human resources and natural resources, there should be no crises. This is from great craftiness.

[Semen Semenych]

I absolutely agree!

[sgazeev]

Quote: Maxom75

I vote for the Communists, I understand that they will not come to power, but at least let the talkers in the Duma spoil the blood. I am a supporter of the position that large enterprises and concerns (especially raw materials) should belong to the state, and therefore to all citizens. But medium and small enterprises should be private. The main customer for innovation - it should be the state! Only the state has the necessary volume of orders and financial opportunities, and the state should develop the country according to a plan that would take into account the interests of the majority of the population!

[glasha3032]

The average state-owned enterprise was corporatized and sold to a private individual. The company produced control systems for the Tu-160 and Tu22M3. A private person (owner) liquidated the production of avionics and leased all premises. Moral- and medium-sized and small enterprises should be state-owned. In the USSR, even the bed workshop worked for defense, which helped win the war.

[pint45]

Almost all serial avionics factories were sold to private individuals: squandered, premises were leased; for example, the Pyrometr plant "Northern Plant" in St. Petersburg; some stray Bodrunov S.D. I tried everything for 10 years and dumped at the same time trying to visit Vali Matvienko's economic advisers. I didn’t take root, And now the rackets for the S-300 are supposed to be collected somewhere in the wilderness. What is the big QUESTION.

[Ragoz]

pint45. To this should be added the stolen machine-tool plant named after Svedlov, which produced precision machines.

[Donbass]

And there should be everything as directly as possible: producer-buyer. Not like now: producer-speculator-speculator-speculator-speculator-speculator-ohrenevshi
th consumer !!!

[bodzu]

Since AvtoVAZ is partly a state-owned company, it belongs to the assets of the company according to the state. To start, Mr. Andersen should be invited to the FSB for discussion and, based on the results of the conversation, one should determine either his actions as an economic crime or as the actions of a foreign agent against the economic well-being and defense potential of our country. country (saboteur and agent of influence) with all the ensuing consequences

[syndicalist]

Quote: Maxom75

I vote for the communists

And the Zyuganovites have at least something from the communists in the classical sense of the word? Maybe they are against private ownership of the means of production? Maybe they even vote in the Duma against all liberoid initiatives? They are no different from other edrisni. When I see a photo of Zyuganov, I involuntarily recall the famous cartoon in which "Gena the crocodile worked as a crocodile in the zoo. So our Gena works as a" communist "in the" zoo "

[CTEPX]

Quote: Maxom75

I vote for the communists

I'm sorry, for me "communists" are synonymous with traitors.

Quote: Maxom75

large enterprises and concerns (especially raw materials) should belong to the state

This is the basis of state capitalism)).

Quote: Maxom75

medium and small enterprises should be private.

This is the basis of just capitalism)).

Quote: Maxom75

The main customer for innovation - it should be the state!

This is the basis of any state)).

We do not have communists; we betrayed everything and everything for the sake of our children.
Everything needs to be started on a new one. From the basics)).

[Bijo]

Quote: Maxom75

I vote for the Communists, I understand that they will not come to power, but let at least spoil the blood of the talkers in the Duma

Yes, what blood-shedding is there, look at the meetings of the Duma - the floor of the hall is at best on the spot and they are asleep or newspapers are read, and the Communists as well. It is true that they have recently become more active about Lenin, but Zhirinovsky answered beautifully. The only one who "spoils the blood" for everyone is Zhirik.

[zarodinu]

I completely agree with the author. Only the state does not rush to be a prudent and caring host.

[andrew42]

100 percent over. The free market is the level of the shopkeeper. And any transnational corporation possessing, among other things, high-tech means of production, is not even a "state within a state", it is a NAD state.

[Al1977]

Quote: Maxom75

The main customer for innovation - it should be the state!

The largest innovative companies in the world are private. They were started by young, purposeful guys, and not appointed party officials. And the main consumer of Apple, Microsoft, Facebook with more than Gazprom turnover is ordinary people. Although I do not claim, give examples of the opposite.

[onix757]

And the Liberal is a hell of a mountain? This is not only Navalny, Sobchak or Gozman. This is the same United Russia, which is pursuing an anti-popular policy and for which half ran to vote in September last year in the local elections.

First Deputy Head of the Kremlin Administration Vyacheslav Volodin stated that "United Russia" will go to the polls with a liberal program and it will become the only liberal party for which voters will be able to vote in the 2016 State Duma elections, RIA Novosti reports.

[owl]

Quote: onix757

and it will become the only liberal party for which voters can vote in the State Duma elections

But what about the party of Volfovich quite a child of a lawyer "zapped for the belt"!

[Was mammoth]

Quote: gufo

But what about the party of Volfovich ... .crying

Branch "ER". Not a single serious law voted against United Russia.

[owl]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Branch "ER". Not a single serious law voted against United Russia.

This is understandable to the fool (except for the fool who votes for the Liberal Democratic Party), but the fact that the LeberalnoDPR will be present in the ballot does not cancel

[Makk]

Branch "ER". Not a single serious law voted against United Russia.

We have all the party-affiliate of EP and even non-systemic opposition - the dream of any dictator, because the people will never support it, in this regard they are also apparently part of the system.

[owl]

Quote: Makk

We have all the party affiliate EP

Interesting, interesting !, and what is your conclusion based on? Just don’t say what you were told!

[Makk]

Interesting, interesting !, and what is your conclusion based on? Just don’t say what you were told!

They told you this, or rather you read it, and your business is how it relates.
"You will recognize them by their deeds" - try to refute ..

[vell.65]

Quote: gufo

But what about the game of Volfovich, quite a child of a lawyer, "they've been stuck in the belt"!

There is a place in the circus along with the whole team.

[ASK505]

Quote: gufo

But what about the game of Volfovich, quite a child of a lawyer, "they've been stuck in the belt"!

All steam to the war with the dead allowed. All the same, Lenin and Stalin did not give him life.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: onix757

United Russia will go to the polls with a liberal program and at the same time become the only liberal party,

The ONF was already imprisoned for the new EP, at the time of submitting documents for the elections, it will become a party, and the EP will quietly merge as unnecessary, only the characters will remain.

[colonel manuch]

Will they vote for the EP at all? Although in words Medvedev yesterday shouted with his feet stomping, they say we are for the people, only now did the audience believe the "noodles" that he hung on their ears.

[aba]

And after that it considers itself social ..

Our social state ended in 1991, under capitalism, even with elements of sociality, financial relations between members of society are at the forefront. So you just understand that someone is hanging noodles on our ears.

[akendrama]

about the fact that half voted for er I do not believe. In our city everyone knows that they rigged for example

[andrew42]

united Russia is the true name.

[moskowit]

Liberals are the enemies of the People, who are supported by the enemies of Russia, and they are performing, and have already partially fulfilled the task given to them to overthrow the Russian statehood and turn our Motherland into a raw material appendage of the "West" !!!

[Altona]

Quote: moskowit

Liberals are the enemies of the people, kept by the enemies of Russia,

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The country has long been ripe for a left turn and turning the steering wheel to the right risks breaking the steering wheel. Our government is all striving to integrate into the West, everyone is looking for some paths, not realizing that the United States has long ago closed all loopholes. So what if Seehofer or Marine le Pen is coming? All the same, the elections with their participation will be declared illegitimate. The Popular Front was quietly bent over in France ..

[shtanko.49]

I will vote for the Communists, at least some kind of protest.

[Al1977]

Quote: moskowit

Liberals are the enemies of the People, who are supported by the enemies of Russia, and they are performing, and have already partially fulfilled the task given to them to overthrow the Russian statehood and turn our Motherland into a raw material appendage of the "West" !!!

But what about Volodin’s statement about EdR’s liberal policy? Or the same LDPR?
Why did you write these lines? Pluses to get?

[veksha50]

Quote: Maxom75

Liberals are visionaries

Hmm ... far from visionaries, but realists ... Look, how they successfully destroy everything that remains ...

PS If the time comes when they will require executioners - I volunteer ... I'm not a killer and not insane, but for such things you just need to be executed ... These are enemies ...

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: veksha50

I am not a killer and not insane, but for such things you just need to be executed ... These are enemies ...

It is a pity that these golden words are rated with only one "+" - th. In the comment, accept +++++++++++ ... + etc.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: veksha50

I am not a killer and not insane, but for such things you just need to be executed ... These are enemies ...

It is a pity that these golden words are rated with only one "+" - th. In the comment, accept +++++++++++ ... + etc.

[boec]

I know the Kalashnikov guys as a deputy from Samara, in which party I don’t know the essence. The question which he raised was very sharp. My Father, 52 years old, that goldsmith-toolmaker was just working at the cost center which was plundered bankrupt. And right now, as the Kalashnikov says, they are dismantled in parts from his words. My father quit, laid off the dismissals to the factory that fifth of the former VMZ, arranged as a student of no length of service, a salary to bu andersen for the rest of his life, he said from his words there will be a new warehouse guess the Cosmetics Magnet. Here you tell the words of different eyewitnesses. My opinion as a resident of the city of Tolyatti, the plant is disassembled for their personal interests. My father told me when the VSW separated, no matter how it developed, the Japanese arrived and arrived. Japanese mechanics learn how to work, although we know how to work, the Japanese come to earn $ 1000 per week. I didn’t go to the factory after the army, although I thought. Salaries are melting like snow among workers, with up to 120000 people working up to Andersen right now up to 20000. Yes, there were a lot of extra people, but where, with such reductions in salaries, I didn’t invent simple numbers. In general, people see numbers leaving the city, they’re working really not, experienced hard workers will not go to guards and sellers like me ...

[stavr550]

sanctions we will not be removed until they finish

[MrK]

Dear Maxom75. I agree with you. But there is one question. Who transferred the VMZ to complete subordination to AvtoVAZ? Isn’t our government ... combing, led by an iPhone?

[Mahmut]

Bo Anderson is a cost killer, he will save AvtoVAZ. The rescue began with the destruction of the machine park in the training center, where they trained universal machinists for the whole country. Bankrupt AvtoVAZagregat, destroyed the Volga Mechanical Plant, destroyed the pilot industrial production. Next in line is the destruction of the STC. The annual loss of 46 billion rubles. All Xray equipment is designed and manufactured over the hill. Neither a screw nor a washer. All imports. Such a localization, such an import substitution. But they succeed Renault Nissan. They consider profit, because they who place their production under one roof with frets, they attribute all their costs to the cost of domestic cars. Such a partnership. Losses are compensated at the expense of the budget of the Russian Federation, and the money goes to the owners of the enterprise in the Azores.
Yes, I almost forgot. Medvedev came to talk with employees of the enterprise. The administration, having learned about this, busted everyone home by 2/3. Those who did not have time to dump were blocked in the building by a cordon. Well, in the meantime, Medvedev was driving a new car. He liked this. And this is the most important thing.

[Maxom75]

maybe it's worth learning how to make high-quality cars, otherwise our vaz car was just awful, although it was affordable. I would like a cheap and high-quality car. Why don't I develop the "NIVA" line, modify and drive in series - this is the most affordable SUV.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: Maxom75

or maybe it’s worth learning how to make high-quality cars, otherwise our VAZ car was just awful, although it was available. I would like a cheap and high-quality car

What, I wonder, is "Your" AvtoVAZ terrible? What are you missing?
Engine, steering wheel, brakes - there is.
Power 90 - 100 HP Few? Do you need 150 - 200?
Warranty - the same 5 years as the adversary.
THAT - the same 10 - 15 thousand km.
Not a single foreign car meets the data declared in the attached fuel consumption instructions! Feel free to write that this data was obtained on running drums at speeds
50 - 70 km / h.
A car is, first of all, a means of transportation, but not a means for show-offs.

[QWERTY]

Well, yes, yes. But take a trip a thousand kilometers to the Gazelle (not Next), and then to some Ford Transit or Ivek of the same class ...

[Mahmut]

maybe it’s worth learning how to make high-quality cars, otherwise our VAZ car was just awful ...

"Teach your wife to lay asphalt with high quality" So you listen to these carriers of cliches about the horrors of Avtovaz and think that the whole country is trying to produce the world's best washing machines, televisions, furniture, irons and telephones. The most fashionable clothes and shoes are made in Russia, the best roads in the world. And only AVTOVAZ, like an ink stain on a snow-white shirt, disgraces the whole country. Quality costs money.

[Maxom75]

I need to increase reliability, indestructibility. Conder mandatory and cruise, the rest do not care.

[Makk]

Have you read the article? And the comments?

[Saratoga833]

In general, Medvedev should be driven out not only from the power structures, but in general from positions related to both politics and the economy! The time of his "reign" showed this extremely clearly! But he is still getting smart!

[Constructor1]

This is how Russian developments and factories are being destroyed. So the enemy looks around .. - "so whoever stuck his head out there." But he cannot destroy it directly and goes to head

In general, the idiocy that the import director manages the Russian plant ..

[udincev]

Look - idiocy. But to dig deeper - who introduced this intruder? Bodies to the studio!

[udincev]

Quote: Designer 1

Russian factory import director in charge

Import substitution is slipping!

[kubilau]

And the plant is no longer a Russian controlling stake in Renault Nissan

[Dyagilev]

Such an elementary concept as "confiscation" still cannot be called. They all come up with something: either the deprivation of illegally acquired property, or compensation - so that they do not accidentally get caught. Too many of their own divorced.

[Saratoga833]

At the word "confiscation" our Duma members and rulers immediately start having convulsions! For them, this is a terrible dream! Especially considering the nepotism and nepotism in the service!

[barik92090]

Quote: onix757

Quote: Pravdarm

This is sabotage! Where do you think? Who!

This is a liberal industrial policy in which the term "sabotage" is absent as such

This is what urgently needs to be investigated publicly, openly and, using this example, to find saboteurs and traitors to the Motherland!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: onix757

This is a liberal industrial policy in which the term "sabotage" is absent as such

No respected - for this liberal public the word "sabotage" is industrial policy.
Only now their fuss for the accelerated development, privatization and bankruptcy of the best factories, factories, parades with the conclusion of their external management, has become more noticeable. They probably worry that they will not have time to cause Russia maximum damage because they themselves are not today, so tomorrow they will knock them out of the ranks of officials who influence the development of the economy (or rather, affect braking).

[iouris]

What does the "liberals" have to do with it?
Steal Russia, otherwise you’ll disappear.

[IMHO]

Quote: onix757

Quote: Pravdarm

This is sabotage! Where do you think? Who!

This is a liberal industrial policy in which the term "sabotage" is absent as such

Dakoli any Bulk, Sobchachki and Khadarkovsky will prevent the country from developing ?? !! It's time to deal with this liberal gang !!

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Pravdarm

This is sabotage! Where do you think? Who!

Where? In Togliatti. Who! Bo Andersson, an effective top manager, he is also a major in the Swedish army. For his fruitful work to undermine the defense of Russia, probably already received a major general. And the kingdom of Sweden the highest degree of distinction - the Order of the Seraphim, personally from the monarch and on a closed list.

[kil 31]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Quote: Pravdarm

This is sabotage! Where do you think? Who!

Where? In Togliatti. Who! Bo Andersson, an effective top manager, he is also a major in the Swedish army. For his fruitful work to undermine the defense of Russia, probably already received a major general. And the kingdom of Sweden the highest degree of distinction - the Order of the Seraphim, personally from the monarch and on a closed list.

He probably, as Penkovsky goes to his homeland and tries on a uniform with a new rank and medals. Penkovsky also traveled and tried on the uniform of Colonel Her Majesty. Everyone knows how it ended.

[owl]

Quote: keel 31

He's probably like Penkovsky

Forgive me, but this is "valid" nonsense

[GRAY]

Quote: Pravdarm

This is sabotage!

This is not sabotage, but another obscene word also ending with the letter "zh".
Hello to the commander Kalashnikov.
1 February 2016, 15: 37

OJSC Metallist-Samara (25,6666% of the plant belongs to the United Engine Corporation, a part of Rostec) wants to lease part of the space from the liquidated subsidiary of AvtoVAZ, LLC Volzhsky Machine-Building Plant (VMZ).

According to Yury Eliseev, executive director of the Samara plant, his company will also need the unique equipment of VMZ, as well as the remaining personnel - 700 people. Earlier, about 2500 people worked at VSW. The Samara enterprise wants to take all the capacities for the production of products for Roscosmos.

For assistance in negotiations with AvtoVAZ, Eliseev turned to Governor Nikolai Merkushkin, who approved this idea and promised his help.

Let us remind you that in 2008 AvtoVAZ, combining its structural divisions, formed the production of technological equipment and tooling (PTOO). In 2011, PTOO was separated from the structure of AvtoVAZ by forming a legal entity - OOO "VMZ".

In 2012, the shareholders of AvtoVAZ approved a deal on the transfer of VMZ to Rostec to repay the plant's debts to the corporation. Volzhsky Machine-Building Plant was estimated at 5 billion rubles. The deal for the sale of VMZ was completed by AvtoVAZ in September 2013, having received 551 million rubles for its former property.

AvtoVAZ bought VMZ in the interests of the Renault Nissan alliance, which accounts for 50% of the Togliatti enterprise in the production of dies and molds for Russian models of the concern. Multi-ton stamps and molds are one of the most expensive components in the automotive industry, not every foreign automaker has its own stamp production.

VSW was the only Russian supplier of assembly robots, dies and molds for the automotive industry.

And at the beginning of 2014, delays in the payment of salaries began at the plant. Dozens of workers stopped going to work. In March, plant management began to pay off debts. Employees began to gradually return to the factory.

In January 2015, the government allocated Rostec 5 billion rubles for the development of machine tools under the import substitution program. Of these, VMZ should have received 696,7 million rubles in 2015-2016.

In September, VSW notified the trade union of the parent company of a reduction of 1195 due to the lack of loading in the machine tool industry.

"The problem with customers began in 2014. The search for orders was very active, but, unfortunately, to no avail," the head of the AvtoVAZ trade union, Sergei Zaitsev, quoted the media.

After the cuts, more than 1000 employees were to remain at the plant, mainly in the production of molds and dies.

In December, AvtoVAZ President Bu Andersson signed an order to recreate the production of technological equipment at the plant. The assets of Volzhsky Machine-Building Plant LLC (VMZ) were transferred to the balance of the new division. The director of the new production was appointed the head of the VMZ Andrey Yezheleva.

http://samara.ru/read/89432

[Was mammoth]

Quote: GRAY

Hello to the commander Kalashnikov.

Well done, Kalashnikov LI .. I established the fact and "washed my hands." The Communist Party was carried away by the Byzantine games in the Duma. Isn't it time to remember the past, organize and lead the working people. If he does not turn to the people, he will continue to lose his supporters.

Quote: Altona

This is the same "United Russia", which is pursuing an anti-people policy and for which half of them ran to vote in September last year in the local elections. And in December and January she received notice of layoffs or salary cuts.

Levada claims that about 60% are ready to vote for United Russia. Smells like sadomasochism.

[owl]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Is it time to remember the past, organize and lead the working people.

Citizen, instead of saying stupid things, they would be revered better than Vladimir Ilich!

[Was mammoth]

Quote: gufo

Citizen, instead of saying stupid things, they would be revered better than Vladimir Ilich!

With what hangover did you write to me STE? As long as the people remain silent and vote for the same "United Russia", as long as they will continue to rob.
You must assume Gaidar is reading

[owl]

Quote: There was a mammoth

What hangover

I assure you that I did not drink, but you must admit that it is not without reason remembered Gaidar!
Well, now seriously.

Quote: There was a mammoth

Until the people are silent and vote for the same "ER"

You really decide who the Communists are to blame or the people ??

[Was mammoth]

Quote: gufo

Well, now seriously.
Quote: Was Mammoth
Until the people are silent and vote for the same "ER"

You really decide who the Communists are to blame or the people ??

If you look for the guilty, then you need to start with yourself. If I in particular and the people as a whole allow ourselves to rob, then they will also rob us.

[owl]

So I say, according to Lenin
1) The tops cannot control in the old way - the inability of the ruling class to maintain its dominance unchanged;
2) The lower classes do not want to live in the old way - a sharp aggravation above the ordinary need and calamities of the oppressed classes and their desire to change their lives for the better;
3)Significant increase in mass activityattracted both by the whole situation of the crisis and by the “tops” themselves, to independent historical performance.

You shouldn't forget about the first point (even though I didn’t paint it), because we should rely on the fact that they will just give everything away stupidly, therefore they feed all sorts of Kazachkofs, "policemen" and the rest of the husks in every possible way!

[Was mammoth]

Quote: gufo

So I say, according to Lenin smile

It's about revolution. There are other forms of workers' protection of their rights, but we are sleeping. Compare the May demonstrations in France or Italy with ours. At the head of our columns are the Medvedevs, the very ones who "rob".

[owl]

Quote: There was a mammoth

This is about revolution.

Well, darling about her!
I don’t hint at anything. I just want to remind you what it is. revolution-"radical, radical, profound, qualitative change, a leap in the development of society, nature or knowledge, coupled with an open gap with the previous state."
just so that the children do not get scared, it is necessary to explain that the revolution is not synonymous with war!
Of course, there are still ways, one of which, as it seemed to me closer to you, is evolution, but my grandchildren may not wait for it (qualitative evolution), especially considering the fact that today we are progressing degradation!

[Was mammoth]

Quote: gufo

just so that the children do not get scared, it is necessary to explain that the revolution is not synonymous with war!
Of course, there are still ways, one of which, as it seemed to me closer to you, is evolution, but my grandchildren might not wait for it (qualitative evolution), especially considering the fact that today we have progressive degradation!

I believe there will be a return to socialism. How and when? I do not know. I think, alas, not soon. We, the Russians are not even ready for economic demands (VMZ as an example), not to mention political ones. Moreover, there are no all three components. Ah, the power is not asleep. Education, TV, the Internet, law enforcement agencies, lawmaking are all under the vigilant eye of the authorities.

[GRAY]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Is it time to remember the past, organize and lead the working people.

What the hell are the working people if they, like all other parties, live by lobbying for the interests of business?
Unless only for the sake of votes.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: GRAY

Why are they working ....

And in which case do you see a way out?

[wagner72]

It seems to me that it is time for this Anderson to pack his bags. And please take the ukrflag from me, I'm from the Crimea. And Crimea-Russia.

[nemec55]

UUUU also Wagner namesake

[GRAY]

Quote: Pravdarm

This is sabotage! Where do you think? Who!

The plant - in the past part of AvtoVAZ, ceased to exist as an independent legal entity and again became a division of AvtoVAZ.
Where is Mr. (please note not comrade, namely Mr.) Kalashnikov noticed the physical liquidation of the enterprise - it is completely incomprehensible.

[Velikoruss]

Quote: Pravdarm

This is sabotage! Where do you think? Who! The question, b.lin, is rhetorical! Answers are "above"! (On a surface)

This is just a total stupor of the Russian population. Sabotage, sabotage, corruption, Egyptian plague, blah blah blah ....
A popular omen says: if he doesn't want to - the dog won't jump up. The Rasiyans just missed the yoke, the whip and the barn very much. And, as they say, you don't want to eat bread and butter, suck ... horseradish with mustard. Just now, Aifonchik promised to lure additional zhrebetnikov (foreign mlin!). And a little earlier Vovchik made “welcome to the unfortunate Jews” from France! True, it seems to me that we are talking about the same eggs (top view, side view).
... And what about the people ?
- gee ... And the people are silent! And rightly so. Maybe the whip will clean the brains? And if you don’t clean it ... all the more right!

[demchuk.ig]

Another rhetorical question is when is it all .... (you can’t say such words here, but VERY want it!) Will end ?? Everyone understands that this is the collapse of the homeland, but nothing changes!

[Prince Gvidon]

And on the surface, Mr. Swims. You won’t get any answers from him.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Vladimir Putin signed an extremely important document for Togliatti - “The list of instructions based on the results of checking the effectiveness of measures to accelerate import substitution processes in the automotive industry”.

Everything is correct! Enough for the domestic car body, insert imported engines ... work bastards and disperse import managers ... Are you used to "it's easier to buy in the west .."? We will come to you in Moscow ... and we will CHECK everything! Swamp PADLES ...
And domestic machines, this is a special question!

[Altona]

Quote: MIKHAN

And domestic machines, this is a special question!

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And the machine-tool industry was the first to go under the knife. And our mechanics were better than the Chinese. Now they would mold an electronic "head" to it and would be ahead of China for a long time.

[kenig1]

Are their managers Chubais, Miller, etc.? The problem lies in the liberal course of the country.

[avt]

Quote: MIKHAN

? We will come to you in Moscow ... and we WILL CHECK everything! MADDLES swamp ...

I’ll say without swamp - out of two television, counting on the production of electronics, there is .... the shopping center Gorbushka and on Shchelkovskaya near the Moscow Ring Road marketplace and a warehouse of cells. Instead of a machine tool on Savelovskaya, the market “Sovenok”, Tushino just now burned - from the plant a handicraft shop for a couple of hundred workers remained, well, in the industrial zones there is an utter mess, there are guest workers in the shop nearby on Stromynka - seamstresses burned down with their children, well, purely "crayfish" from "Russia we have lost" that Gilyarovsky described. And what came to VAZ was what Moscow had done with AZLK and ZiL for a long time, but to enumerate everything that was ruined from the industry in Moscow, this is not counting the research institutes and just science ..... they will be banned for five years.

[Maksus]

Well, well, testers. And doesn’t it bother anyone that this same X-Ray (pah, b ****, for William Conrad is a shame) - stupidly turned Renault Sandero? Savior of AvtoVAZ, but it was high time it was a loser to close this plant and switch to production of normal trucks.

[onix757]

Yes, it was high time it was a loser to close this plant and switch to the production of normal trucks.

Well, if it doesn’t work out, we’ll ruin it like a zil. So?
At KAMAZ, they are trying to collect Mercedes and it is necessary to confess not very well. Maz with about the same characteristics came out cheaper .. because the localization is higher.

[Maksus]

And why only KAMAZ, we still have URAL, UAZ (well, you can’t call it passenger cars), a bunch of Gazelles / Lawns. No, we need to try our best to support AvtoVAZ by raising excise taxes on NORMAL cars (I had an Opel Astra N, I left for six years - I changed only the timing belt - it broke, the rear wiper motor and EVERYTHING).

[Mordvin 3]

Do you understand what you wrote?

[fzr1000]

MAZ is "approximately" like a Mercedes? Are you a driver, owner of a transport company, an auto master after all? If it were so, then only "cheap and high-quality" MAZs would drive on the roads.

[alone]

Quote: MIKHAN

Vladimir Putin signed an extremely important document for Togliatti - “The list of instructions based on the results of checking the effectiveness of measures to accelerate import substitution processes in the automotive industry”.

Everything is correct! Enough for the domestic car body, insert imported engines ... work bastards and disperse import managers ... Are you used to "it's easier to buy in the west .."? We will come to you in Moscow ... and we will CHECK everything! Swamp PADLES ...
And domestic machines, this is a special question!

so what? In order to accelerate import substitution, it was necessary to destroy the plant?
As for machine-tool construction, for this we need machine-building plants, moreover, not one or ten, but much more to provide the industry with all the necessary machine tools. To train specialists, engineers, and economic engineers

[Maksus]

Yes etozh Mikhan - to him on a cart and a flag in his hand. The slogan man.

[alone]

Quote: Maksus

Yes etozh Mikhan - to him on a cart and a flag in his hand. The slogan man.

That's not news)

[Mordvin 3]

I will support you. I have a special neighbor. But nobody needs anyone. Sits, thumps.

[NIKNN]

Under Stalin, they would have shot!

[IMHO]

Quote: NIKNN

Under Stalin, they would have shot!

And under Ivan the Terrible-they would have put on a stake !!!

[starshina78]

Enterprises in Russia are being destroyed by "effective managers" of newly minted specialists who can only cut, demolish, break, and nothing else; The Central Bank and other banks that lend to industry in such a way that enterprises can barely pay off loans, and there is no money for the development of production due to the high interest rate (the Central Bank and gentlemen ministers from the economic bloc are afraid of deflation); the Government of Russia itself, which can do nothing but calculate revenues from the sale of oil and gas, and develop and help raise the industry - their brains do not work, and why do they think when everything in the world can be bought, that's just not always, and the new term is import substitution, no more than a term. The main damage is, of course, the "effective managers". They, who came from outside and do not know the production cycles and the entire production technology, can only pull out machines from the foundations in order to sell, demolish workshops that, in their mind, do not bring them income, but the fact that all equipment and workshops were built and installed with the expectation of a certain output does not bother them. And when an order for the production of equipment comes, it turns out that there is no equipment to fulfill the order. It is either sold or melted down. And the search begins throughout Russia where to place an order for the manufacture of individual parts necessary to fulfill the order. All this leads to a rise in the cost of manufactured products, and, accordingly, due to the high price, the plant loses tenders, which means there is less money at the plant. And then they begin to look for the guilty, and as always it turns out to be Vasya Pupkin, who is undergoing a half-cut in order to optimize production. In one word - a mess!

[sgazeev]

Quote: onix757

That's right, one sausage shop built has 3 large enterprises destroyed

JSC "Moscow Machine-Tool Plant named after Sergo Ordzhonikidze"

Numerous violations during the privatization process and inaction of law enforcement agencies in the early 1990s contributed to the forcible seizure of control over the enterprise, pressure on employees and, subsequently, the alienation of their shares. Despite all the statements of the new shareholders to pay off debts and develop the enterprise, the plant began to degrade. Valuable personnel left the plant in large numbers. The land under the plant, practically in the center of Moscow, was subsequently redeemed for virtually nothing. The release of machine-tool products significantly shrank, and then, at the beginning of 2000, it was completely reduced to zero. Assembly and commissioning of machine tools was separated into a separate structural unit. At the same time, the Ordzhonikidze 11 Business Park was growing by leaps and bounds, leasing the premises of the dying plant. As a result, today we have an extensive business park, which occupies almost the entire area of ​​the former plant, which is teeming with dozens of large and not very large tenants, the overwhelming majority of which specialize in wholesale and retail trade. A piece of the former machine-tool production with a couple of dozen enthusiastic workers lurked somewhere in the depths of the business park and, de jure, brings a symbolic part to the total revenue, mainly from the sale of spare parts for machine tools, as well as the provision of services on the side for machining, and maybe even completely removed from its native territory. However, it is worth mentioning the very "structural divisions" that separated from the main enterprise in the 1990s. One of such companies is the independent LLC NPP ZiO, created in 1996 on the basis of the assembly shop of the Ordzhonikidze plant. The very fact of the release of new machines at this enterprise is currently in doubt, the company does not disclose its data (possibly for the better.) If you believe what is described on the official website of the company, it can be assumed that the LLC is working on a unique, unparalleled in the world, automated grinding complex with a processing accuracy of no more than one and a half nanometers. for such a small company Who is investing in the development of this complex is also unknown, but still I would like to hope that the real work is already underway and in the near future the Ordzhonikidze machine-tool plant will get a chance for revival.

[Finches]

Surnames are the same - Chubais, Gref, Kudrin, Surkov, Ulyukaev, Dvorkovich ... their name is legion! GDP just can’t do anything ... It’s elementary to shoot, but even Stalin didn’t succeed ...

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Finches

GDP just can't do anything.

And he doesn’t want to do anything!

[SergeyA]

Quote: onix757

That's right, one sausage shop built has 3 large enterprises destroyed

PUTINIAD or running on the spot!

[Denis Obukhov]

It is understandable, now for world imperialism the main thing is to destroy Russia. To do this, it is necessary to destroy its industry.

[Denis Obukhov]

As the best tool in the old days, peasants of the countryside, under unbearable conditions of existence, used to shake off the sled against their landlords, and from time to time this use allowed the peasants to weaken merciless exploitation and even free themselves from the oppression of the exploiters. This experience must be applied with modern shafts, for example, in the form of the same truckers with their long wagons, and there is what they need, protesting against a new form of oppression by exploiters like the Rottenbergs of Putin's Plato system. It is necessary to pay by mass protests, up to the resignation of the entire Putin power vertical.

[BAT]

Quote: onix757

That's right, one sausage shop built has 3 large enterprises destroyed

Everything to the point of banality is simple. In the production of sausages, chips, vodka and soda water, the invested funds give a profit much faster than in mechanical engineering or any other high-tech production. That is why mechanical engineering is neither restored nor heavy or light. Machine tool building completely poher. They produce some simple machines such as hydraulic presses or guillotine shears. But upon close and careful examination, it turns out that these are all remnants of former luxury from the USSR. Just a little updated and brought into a divine form. And in order to assemble something more complicated, well, at least some kind of vertical-boring machine (I'm not talking about turning, milling, grinding and boring, and even more so I am silent about CNC machines), there can be no question of that. But they did before, during the times of the USSR, all kinds of different equipment. Both sophisticated and highly accurate.

[Skif83]

And if with them in Stalin's style, you look, and such plants would be whole.
Sorry no one ...

[captain]

Apparently this, someone needed it. Just because the factories do not tumble.

[olimpiada15]

Quote: captain

Apparently this, someone needed it. Just because the factories do not tumble.

Yes, it is necessary. The United States and the West need Russia to remain a gas station, and free of charge. Dropped world oil prices and the country's budget is falling apart. Citizens Russians tighten their belts in the name of saving the economies of other countries, otherwise they will cease to be leaders.
One thought after reading the article, the pro-Western government, resigned.

[veksha50]

Quote: olimpiada15

The United States and the West need Russia to remain a gas station, and free of charge. Dropped world oil prices and the country's budget is falling apart.

Hmm ... Then today in the State Duma the thought-idea sounded about freezing oil sales for export for 5 years ...

Of course, I don’t like that our budget depends on world oil prices ... However, I don’t like the fact that idiots who are not friends with their own heads sit in the State Duma and speak ...

[onix757]

Quote: veksha50

Of course, I don’t like that our budget depends on world oil prices ... However, I don’t like the fact that idiots who are not friends with their own heads sit in the State Duma and speak ...

Well for a month it would not hurt

[veksha50]

Quote: onix757

Well for a month it would not hurt

There is enough oil in the world ... All these prices are a game ... BUT (!!!) our IDEETs, developing and approving the country's budget, are always tied to the prices of a jug of oil and the rate of gray-green candy wrapper ...

Well, they will freeze ... So Iran itself will occupy a niche ...

Before you start YOUR oil for YOUR needs, you need to be prepared for this ... You need to have at least the capacity to process it, and so on, and tyry-pyr ... And so, what has been said so far with planned sequestration deficits - cuts like a hollow bark of a brethren dog ... Look, people, I am glad for the state ...

PS However, they have already come up with taxes on garbage (which means that utility services for garbage removal will also rise in price), they will increase excise taxes on "harmful" products by 30% ... I never cease to be surprised at the stupidity of the boyars ...

[Lelek]

Quote: captain

Apparently this, someone needed it. Just because the factories do not tumble.

And who needs it?
In the city of Volsk, Saratov Region (in Soviet times, it occupied the 2nd place in the RSFSR for the production of high-quality cement), only one works out of four cement plants (and even half-strength). Workers are fired, are supplemented by casual earnings and drink too much. Raw materials (limestone) reserves for a hundred years. And who needed this mess? Or does the country no longer need portland cement? Or buy cement in South Africa for the currency of someone golden?
And there is nothing to say about machine tool building (the basis of all types of industry) and especially precise robotic machine tool building. We bow to the sirs and the gers. Fuck... .
Sorry for the fuse, boiling.

[fif21]

Quote: Lelek

And there is nothing to say about machine tool building (the basis of all types of industry) and especially precise robotic machine tool building.

But here on one of the "branches" of the site they rubbed me that Russia needs Western technologies and equipment. In the internet, moonshine apparatuses advertise-German German breweries, sawmills-Italian, wood dryers-Italian, Finnish .. And the election article is coming soon, that’s driving the rubella. And how many such articles will still be Would you walk the forest gentlemen, fellow revolutionaries.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: fif21

Italian sawmills,

Here is what sawmill import substitution has long been a fact!

[fif21]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

Here is the fact that the sawmill has long been imported-it is a fact!

For some reason, only the timber and the board with these sawmills resemble the Amur waves, and the energy costs for them are fantastic.

[fif21]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

Here is the fact that the sawmill has long been imported-it is a fact!

And the sawmill that you mean cannot be stopped, it is unique, cuts everything!

[GRAY]

Quote: captain

Just because the plants do not wallow.

So far, the half-dead plant has ceased to exist as a legal entity and nothing more.

[Alez]

Enemies not abroad, enemies within the country, wolves in sheep's clothing.

[Prisoner]

Do not flatter yourself, they are both abroad and here. It is necessary to return the death penalty for treason and sabotage. Oh, I have to.

[fif21]

Quote: Alez

Enemies not abroad, enemies within the country

There is no meaner enemy for a man than himself. And, the fact that we do not step in orderly rows towards a brighter future is only necessary for us to rejoice.

[Loner_53]

And the signing by Vladimir Vladimirovich of the aforementioned “List of Instructions” makes it clear that the automotive industry and related industries are an important part of the development line of the Russian Federation

It turns out that even Putin is not a decree for these creatures, it’s a pity that we’re not the 37th

[Dr. Bormental]

Personally, my opinion - had Putin been tougher - we would have already worn flowers to his grave. He somehow tries to maneuver between the distraught oligarchs and the poor people. His good intentions, apparently, he is trying for the country, but it seems as if his hands are tied or something ...

[Gorinich]

He does not maneuver, he roofs them and this is a huge difference.

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Dr. Bormental

His good intentions

Good intentions laid the road to hell!

[Dr. Bormental]

"Who is Destroying Russian Industry?"
Those who destroy Russian medicine and education. In St. Petersburg, 442 District Military Clinical Hospital was destroyed in the same way. 1200 beds were in it. Nobody even stood up. It is in the center of St. Petersburg, next to the Smolny Cathedral. Can you imagine how much land there is? And here the "smelly" soldiers are running around. And the Hospital is 175 years old. It was. Thanks to the stool and matvienko.
P.S. - Shoigu managed to come - although historic buildings did not dismantle the stones. And thanks for that.

[Sorokin]

And how many enterprises were on its territory. Not in the know? Tenants all over Russia started to hit. But then a zone for the palace appeared.

[muks]

At the Baltic Station there was a plant: lifting and transport equipment named after CM. Kirov. In addition to PT equipment, ball bearings were also manufactured. Diameter 0,2 mm ... etc. There is no factory, there is a house with business parasites and a "tape" - the one in which they sell. Instead of Varshavsky railway station, what? Instead of a meat processing plant, what? Instead of a dairy plant, what is at Frunenskaya? Who will stand up? 2017 coming soon ....

[Thunderbolt]

Here is your Leningrad-91. Now we are reaping the benefits. Managers mentioned in the video have long learned from the West how to manage our economy.

[fif21]

Quote: muks

At the Baltic station the plant was

Moscow and Peter-talk are special! Cities for the rich and through the efforts of the authorities of the workers and factories in them will be a minimum (service staff). The poor worker is the driving force of the revolution, but do the gentlemen need it? Therefore, forget about the factories in Moscow and St. Petersburg. In the capitals, even retirees maintain a normal standard of living. Therefore, the destruction of Russia can begin according to the Ukrainian scenario — the Far East will be taken by the Chinese, and Siberia and the Urals and the Volga region may declare themselves independent republics and send the capitals with forests.

[Yura]

Major Andersson and not so on the shoulder ...

To Major? What is it like? Whose US Army, Swedish? Or whose else? So whose is it all the same? For our money, with our shovel on our back, okay?

[Michael67]

How can this be? I can’t even believe it. It is necessary to take the Swede to Poltava. Then create a state commission upon the defeat of the enterprise and transplant all the initiators!

[kervin78]

The plant will be demolished and shopping centers will be built. In Novokuznetsk, according to such a plan, the KMK workshops (Kuznetsk Metallurgical Plant) are already demolished. And there is already a shopping center, which in the city came out like mushrooms after rain.

[lexx2038]

Quote: kervin78

The plant will be demolished and shopping centers will be built. In Novokuznetsk, according to such a plan, the KMK workshops (Kuznetsk Metallurgical Plant) are already demolished. And there is already a shopping center, which in the city came out like mushrooms after rain.

And we will turn into a country of traders and lawyers, and then Westerner even more evil lawyers will come and our ours will serve them for green paper destroying the remnants of their people and their kind. So empires will fall without wars and cataclysms. The top is all sold, but nothing depends on the people. How to find a way out? That is the question.

[Nzn]

There is a clear tendency to transform from an industrial power into a consumer (lyaksky) Itelsky one. I agree with the conclusions above. This is not only sabotage. This is a diversion!
In the comments to the article (link below), a list of enterprises destroyed over the past decade and a half is given.

http://topwar.ru/90347-v-evroparlamente-zayavili-chto-sankcii-protiv-rf-budut-sn
yaty-tolko-posle-vozvrascheniya-kryma-ukraine.html # comment-id-5531544

[mek1953km]

And where to look for the ends now. The culprit should be.

[Vladimir71]

Judging by the surname of this Varangian, he is also that storyteller. It’s a pity that we still have many fairy tale lovers ...

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Vladimir71

Judging by the surname of this Varangian, he is also that storyteller. It’s a pity that we still have many fairy tale lovers ...

While enterprises will be privatized, while foreign (and their own) managers will manage, there will be endless optimizations and closures

[1536]

What to say? It looks like the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing. And all meetings, resolutions, etc. government actions are worthless! Downshifters, one word!

[13 warrior]

Just for the actions of the hands low control on the part of the brain.
Or are we having problems with the vistibular apparatus?

[vfqjh]

Breaking, not building! Mind is not necessary. I happened to work at such an enterprise in due time. Produced products for aviation and space, completed strollers. All specialists on the street, conversion, her mother is a child. Now let's get back in the ass. Why then destroyed? Oh, managers, managers ... If only we could fill our pockets, but the grass doesn’t grow there ................

[Dryulea]

Not only in Novokuznetsk, it is everywhere! In our plant in Smolensk, the Centaur factory also cut machines (even new ones) and turned them into scrap metal. The management even refused to sell them to those who wanted it. Now there is another shopping center. Instead of a flax mill, there is also a shopping center. And after the liberation of Smolensk in 1943, it was the first restored enterprise

[onix757]

Nikolai Merkushkin, who for six months ignored rallies, pickets, appeals and appeals from the reduced and desperate to demand payment of wage arrears to employees of AvtoVazagregat, said today that the regional government is going to provide support to the residents of Tolyatti thrown out onto the street.
Merkushkin named the involvement of former employees of AvtoVAZagregat as one of the options for "support" of unemployed and salary citizens to community service. The governor assigned responsibility for paying debts to employees and workers of the enterprise to law enforcement agencies, which, according to him, should occupy a "tough and principled position."

[Vadim237]

Here is a little more detailed about this, although the news is old http://ria.ru/economy/20151207/1337810297.html

[LÄRZ]

Quote: Vladimir71

Judging by the surname of this Varangian, he is also that storyteller.

Storyteller, storyteller. When invited, they hoped that he was a magician, but turned out to be a storyteller. For these unbridled actions to kill our factories, punishment will follow no more than Serdyukov-Vasilyeva. Means - "cover".

[Dryulea]

Andersson also successfully failed the Volga-Siber project at GAZ, and now Skoda is being released instead of the Volga. So now I have an exclusive car, the latest model of the Volga.

[fzr1000]

Skoda will be more modern than the outdated by then Dodge Stratus, on the basis of which they made Cyber. In general, a strange idea was with this Cyber. Or just cut it.

[Ahil]

Not everything is as scary as in this article, we are not fools.

[iouris]

Of course, not fools "are sitting here". This is a completely different story.
It used to be scary, it has long been used to.

[onix757]

Good point. According to Sidelts, fools are not poor.

[Kostya Andreev]

You can pour andersen with mud, but the fact that VAZ cars have improved quality is a fact.

[onix757]

Yes, in general, the engines and boxes from behind the hillock and without a VAZ were not bad)

[QWERTY]

Well, they also raised the price, this is also a fact. Buy an incomprehensible Lada Vesta at the price of Kia Rio? In general, our pricing is lame. How can a UAZ loaf cost 600 thousand ??? No, it has become better, I do not argue, much ... but not so much?

[Kostya Andreev]

You can not buy, I said, that the quality has grown.

[fif21]

Quote: Kostya Andreev

but the fact that VAZ cars have improved quality is a fact.

And what is the percentage of imported parts in the car? And why even foreign cars assembled at our plants, our workers turn into buckets with bolts?

[Vitaly72]

As for the buckets, it is true that he worked as a contractor in Vsevolozhsk at the FORD factory, the percentage of marriage is huge, the territory is forced by marriage

[Nimitz]

I live in Togliatti, out of more than a few dozen friends who previously worked at VAZ, not one works there now. By any means adjusters, electronics engineers, engineers, foremen, machine operators are fired. You can get a job at a VAZ only if you have no education and you need to "light up" as an alcoholic or drug addict. It is such a team that Boris Ivanovich grows (as we call Bu Inge Anderson), to assemble under a screwdriver from ready-made components produced abroad, what, in his opinion, is needed for us.

[iouris]

Boris Ivanovich pursues the policy of Boris Nikolaevich.

[fif21]

Quote: Nimitz

It’s possible to work at a VAZ only if there is no education

A real assessment of the VAZ was given by motorists of the country. Authority is earned over the years, and you can lose it in 5 minutes. The demand for VAZ was only in times of lack of competition. Selling defective cars to people What were you thinking? So they got what they deserved. It seems that you just hate people buying VAZs.

[oof]

We were slowly brought to the sale of State Assets, every single day they say that there is no money. Where did the Stabilization Fund go? Why are new enterprises not being built, but on the contrary being closed? In general, the government and the country's leadership brought us to a choice, to be silent and look at their treacherous policy, or maybe it's time to expel you, gentlemen "managers". Until they managed. And on the way out not to the luxurious chambers, but to the camp bunks.

[fif21]

Quote: olf

Where did the Stabilization Fund go? Why aren’t new enterprises being built

Under capitalism, the state does not interfere in business affairs, but only establishes the "rules of the game" by stimulating business through tax breaks and customs duties. We have private ownership of the means of production, not state ownership

[Dryulea]

Quote: Kostya Andrei

You can pour andersen with mud, but the fact that VAZ cars have improved quality is a fact.

And how much money did the state swell in AvtoVAZ?

[olimpiada15]

A very interesting point is reflected in the article.
Situation development:
1) There is an independent effective profitable enterprise.
2) Subordinate the enterprise to AvtoVAZ.
3) The enterprise, under conditions of subordination, begins to work only for one industry, therefore it becomes ineffective
4) The new owner gets rid of the enterprise, which has become a burden.
The chain of their 4 moves led the country’s desired enterprise to liquidation and made many industries dependent on imports.
For whom is this done? What is the proper name for those involved in the destruction of Russian industry?
Does the FSB perform its functions? We are talking about the economic security of the country.
And the worst thing is that this situation reminded the destruction of the country in the 90s.
It is often blamed for the collapse of the country of the Communists. And this case suggests that the same force destroyed the USSR, came to power, and continues to pursue the course of colonizing the country.

[sergei.84]

VAZ (stepson FIATA) Never was, and now will not be a normal car. It's all about the culture of production and the timely change of models. And the price is fanare!

[veksha50]

"Lost a rare opportunity to ensure import substitution at the level of our own engineering and our own high-tech products"...

Hmm ... I already after the "execution" of the May decrees of the GDP (I do not remember what year) long ago realized that the government is a bunch of saboteurs ... And the admission to the management of such production - more precisely, to its destruction - a Varangian is a direct state a crime...

And - alas - again, NOBODY will bear any responsibility for what they have done ...

PS Read such news - throw yourself into the arms of a heart attack-kondratiya, and even look at the night - all the more ...

[cuzmin.mihail2013]

Well, there will be one more shopping center in the city. Now in Russia the economy is estimated this way, the more shopping centers in the city - the more it is economically developed. Visit him - yes. Buy in it - yes. Money goes to the treasury - yes. Well then everything is good! So the current government is still a factory or a shopping center.

[Andrey Peter]

Quote: mek1953km

And where to look for the ends now. The culprit should be.

Too deep, unfortunately. Hope for GDP? I would like to believe

[mek1953km]

As always, the prosecutor’s office didn’t see anything. Where to look for the ends now.

[valera]

Quote: mek1953km

As always, the prosecutor’s office didn’t see anything. Where to look for the ends now.

Well, she’s busy with more important things. You’ll think about some factory ditching. It’s easier to come off popularly beloved animals

People on social networks are still having fun, and only the prosecutor’s office is not laughing: the Novosibirsk lawyer Alexei Krestyanov forced the state machine to work! And I disturbed him for an insane reason: it makes me check whether there is a vice in the friendship between the tiger Amur and the goat Timur from the Primorsky safari park? Today, February 5, the lawyer received a response to e-mail. “The Prosecutor General’s Office passed his appeal to the prosecutor’s office of the Primorsky Territory and now there is a“ verification of the arguments, ”the letter said. Here you have the jokes!

[bhdir1946]

"Optimistic tragedy." Suitable for the report, but why deal with serious and important matters?

[vassa]

But the Turks feel good with us. In Bor, for example, a glass factory is booming. Turkish. And our glassmaking is in ruins.

[sania275]

Elections to the State Duma are just around the corner. There will be many more exposing articles from all parties. Probably the "liberals" especially .. will vomit. Lord, do not bring them to power. But there are many questions to a united Russia.

[bhdir1946]

I agree with you. But if you look at what under the leadership of the (majority) EP took place in the VS. Ministry of Internal Affairs, in agriculture and forestry, in general, in industry. The economy .... That special data is not needed.

[owl]

But damn it, and I’m a sinner thought that the collapse of the industry today is directly responsible Denis Valentinovich and that monster that put him there, about the competent authorities, it just so happened today that there’s no need to speak.

[akula]

Quote: ahil

Not everything is as scary as in this article, we are not fools.

Of course, not fools, in which case somewhere in England they will have a warm little place.

[obama]

Woe, what a grief)) I work at an unnecessary automobile plant, "hands out of a z o p s", the city of Togliatti.

[1goose3]

While the guilty freaks, from top to bottom, will not be put against the wall, it will be so.

[pvmvmp]

In the photo: Comrade Ulyukaev from the Ministry of Economic Destruction, of course, the subject of pride for liberals Nabiullina - the head of the office serving speculators, Siluanov is still not the former Minister of Finance, who sing dull romances

[alone]

Quote: pvmvmp

Comrade Ulyukaev from the Ministry of Economic Destruction, of course, the liberals are proud of Nabiullina - the head of the office serving speculators, Siluanov is still not the former Minister of Finance, who sing dull romances

And who appointed them? Obama? Or Merkel?

[veksha50]

Quote: lonely

And who appointed them? Obama? Or Merkel?

The Council of the Sages of Zion ...

[vell.65]

For a long time already wrote_Medvedeva with his henchmen _on a dump and let people talk about Putin poorly_ man revived Russia.

[alone]

Quote: vell.65

For a long time already wrote_Medvedeva with his henchmen _on a dump and let people talk about Putin poorly_ man revived Russia.

Medvedev and his team are strange. Everyone knows that all these people are Putin’s team.

[Gardamir]

For a long time already wrote_Medvedeva with his henchmen _on a dump and let people talk about Putin poorly_ man revived Russia.

Medvedev and his minions Putin’s people, how does one revive and destroy the other?

[Vitaly72]

Well, damn it, I don’t know, on the one hand Russia rises from its knees, that's for sure, on the other, I fell and didn’t rise, maybe this is the homespun truth

[Cobra77]

Quote: sania275

Elections to the State Duma are just around the corner. There will be many more exposing articles from all parties. Probably the "liberals" especially .. will vomit. Lord, do not bring them to power. But there are many questions to a united Russia.

It's not about the liberals. Liberals were now more afraid of this. The current situation is entirely "merit" of the current elite. And who they are - hell will understand. But definitely not statesmen and not patriots.

There are no questions to EdR. With him, more than understandable. Reminds a dog in the hay. A mediocre party uniting those in power. Expecting from her something is at least naive. Yes, there are skipping intelligent individuals. But they can’t do the weather. And the rest of the party is no better. Pure clowning. So can anyone explain to me how the LDPR and the Communist Party differ from EdRa?

[barik92090]

This is a liberal industrial policy in which the term "sabotage" is absent as such [/ quote]
This is what urgently needs to be investigated publicly, openly and, using this example, to find saboteurs and traitors to the Motherland!

[Cobra77]

Quote: Andrey Peter

Quote: mek1953km

And where to look for the ends now. The culprit should be.

Too deep, unfortunately. Hope for GDP? I would like to believe

Who is the hope for? It’s better to arrange a procession and a prayer for the recovery of the economy and the punishment of those responsible. There will be more sense.

[mek1953km]

I don’t vote for edros anymore. For the Communists it is necessary, they unearthed this business.

[GRAY]

Quote: mek1953km

It is necessary for the Communists, they unearthed this business.

They didn’t unearth anything; this is pure populism. When a subsidiary is part of the main company, it is not collapse or liquidation - it is a merger.
In this case, a single deputy, replacing concepts, runs the risk of being caught in a lie and casts a shadow over his party.
You need to drive such people to the neck - if you are already going to lie, then lie correctly.

[owl]

Quote: mek1953km

. For the Communists need, they unearthed this business.

With all my attitude to the Communist Party, they don’t dug up it’s just not shown on TV and you are my advice, you should not draw such powerful conclusions on trifles in the future and do not be disappointed later!

[NGK]

That's a bit strange and incomprehensible! It seems that here on the site there is a whole bunch of rather intelligent and educated men with a critical outlook on life! Am I getting it right? And all the time they are looking for reasons to justify our guarantor - but he is not guilty of anything! He is good! These are all evil liberals, Medvedev Gref, Ulyukaev, etc. And who appointed them to the government? The Massons with the Zionists and other "Asta" and "Ista"? Where did Serdyukov, Dvorkovich and Valyukha Matvienko come from? And Sanyok Tkachev is also a Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge, an oligarch whom the guarantor is afraid of? He maneuvers, you see! With such an apparatus of violence in your hands? Don't tell my slippers. He has only to lift a finger, and there will be no Chubais, no Deripasoks with Khakamads and Gozmans by tomorrow morning! And he won't get anything for it! He wants to, but he can't! Aha! Doesn't want to! Who wants, he can! Look at China, Vietnam, Singapore. They wanted and could! Singapore, so in general, heaven on earth has become, the 22nd century! I have been there regularly since 1981, almost to the present day - there were a swindler on a swindler and they were driven by a swindler. And now it is the center of the world's high technologies with the highest standard of living! The President, like the captain on the ship, is responsible for everything that happens. I did not know the words, I did not know, the subordinates are to blame - they do not pass! He knows everything and knows everything and without his consent nothing happens in the country. So don't get your hopes up! It won't get any better!

[aina01]

Kalashnikov is right, however, as always, but they’re not listening to him, but Volodya’s, Ulyukaevs, Grefs, Medvedevs ... The fewer bastards on an avatar, the more sober thoughts in discussion. The site is Putinophile, clearly visible without glasses. RUSSIAN PEOPLE, WAKE UP !!!!!!! WE HAVE IN ALL GAPES !!!! They rob, tear off from the past and do not give to look into the future.

[nogBogHuk]

As you listen to ours, almost every day it is only introduced, but in fact there is nothing to write about. Look at the site "made with us" They write that they sent planes to Syria or a military ship is being tested, but to build production to launch once a floor years and then if somewhere is a "watchman",
will build or launch something. Where are the plans for development and import substitution, or do they think good uncles will come and build production in Russia. The state has tried to develop nanotechnology, but with such a sawmill as Chubais it will be a "black hole" it is.

[satellite24]

In Samara, the GRU regiment was disbanded! On the box showed how half of them at the labor exchange were looking for work (did not know to cry or laugh

[nogBogHuk]

Totally agree this is the committee on the destruction of Russia

[Viktor2410]

Here is one person tearing his throat, but for some reason we don’t hear him: http: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = Vly4wZ3XbU4

[Jeb]

Quote: Maxom75

I vote for the Communists, I understand that they will not come to power, but at least let the talkers in the Duma spoil the blood. I am a supporter of the position that large enterprises and concerns (especially raw materials) should belong to the state, and therefore to all citizens. But medium and small enterprises should be private. The main customer for innovation - it should be the state! Only the state has the necessary volume of orders and financial opportunities, and the state should develop the country according to a plan that would take into account the interests of the majority of the population!

I absolutely agree with you! And also to organize state trade networks with a system of purchases directly from the manufacturer. This would make it possible to act as a regulator of pricing when selling products and squeeze out speculators and other cushioning companies from this sector, called "businessmen" by the liberals!

[Fonmeg]

Tolmach (2) RU Today, 19: 47 ↑ New

Guys, let's define who these most elusive "Liberals" are, who prevent our people from living in peace and building a great country. Who are these bastards who pulled us into the market economy, who joined the WTO, ...

Destroy a ship can the one in whose hands the steering wheel of this ship! Surnames or call yourself come ?!

[owl]

The chase after

[Alarm clock]

There is no Stalin on them!

[Comrade Glebov]

Quote: Fonmeg

Tolmach (2) RU Today, 19: 47 ↑ New

Guys, let's define who these most elusive "Liberals" are, who prevent our people from living in peace and building a great country. Who are these bastards who pulled us into the market economy, who joined the WTO, ...

Destroy a ship can the one in whose hands the steering wheel of this ship! Surnames or call yourself come ?!

I am very much afraid of the FSB and other guardsmen, and therefore I will not name the names, otherwise one of the main pogromists himself, they say, "from there." And to be honest, what did we expect from our oil-pumping oligarchs and their henchmen, who are now commonly called "liberals", "the economic bloc of the government," "democrats"? It is not in their interests to let the working class develop in our country, they fully agree with the tetcherikha's plan for 15 thousand of our citizens, the rest are extra hungry mouths, unprofitable in a raw materials, colonial "economy."

As if Andrei Vyshinsky said about our "unnamed" people:

"1) ... is an organization of espionage, sabotage, sabotage, political assassinations and the sale of their homeland to enemies.

2) ... Berries and Bulanovs, Krestinsky and Rosengoltsy, Ikramovs, Khodzhaevs and Sharangovichi under the leadership of Trotsky, under the leadership of German, Japanese, Polish and other intelligence, do their dirty deed on the orders of their masters not only in our country, but also in China and in Spain, wherever there is a class struggle of the working people, where there is a struggle of honest people for genuine freedom, for genuine democracy, for a real genuine human culture.

3) Our entire country, from small to old, is waiting and demanding one thing: to shoot traitors and spies who sold our homeland to the enemy like nasty dogs! Our people demand one thing: crush the accursed reptile! "

Replace the surnames, names of some countries and at the exit you will receive comprehensive information about the situation in our country. Crush the damned reptile!

[Ros64]

The GDP sees and knows everything - if it doesn’t remove them (I mean the unprofessional government), then all of them are “our own” people, and “we’re not abandoning our own”! It’s impossible to understand otherwise!

[Old warrior]

Putin doesn’t abandon his own people, but they will only give him up on his way.

[Kostya Andreev]

Quote: Kostya Andreev

I live in Togliatti, out of more than a few dozen friends who previously worked at VAZ, not one works there now. By any means adjusters, electronics engineers, engineers, foremen, machine operators are fired. You can get a job at a VAZ only if you have no education and you need to "light up" as an alcoholic or drug addict. It is such a team that Boris Ivanovich grows (as we call Bu Inge Anderson), to assemble under a screwdriver from ready-made components produced abroad, what, in his opinion, is needed for us.

Explain to me why I should pay your friends money if they made crappy cars. Look at the number of employees at VAZ and Toyota, and the quantity and quality of cars produced.
It’s interesting that when teetotalers worked at VAZ, the quality was not... now they work there with alcoholics and drug addicts without education, but the quality and assortment are improving.
In order not to be suspected of bias, I’ll say that I have a foreign car, and I’m thinking about my next car, ours.
We need Russian car manufacturers to stop experimenting on Russian car enthusiasts and selling them buckets with the help of the state. VAZ has been making Lada cars for almost half a century, who stopped them from putting new cars on the assembly line, Putin? For the vase, duties were introduced at the end of the 90s, and where is the development, what’s new. suggested?
I want the car I bought to drive with the money I earned and not break down, and I want this money to stay in Russia.

[boec]

I know the Kalashnikov guys as a deputy from Samara, I don’t know what party he belongs to. The question he raised is very poignant. My Father, for 52 years that goldsmith and tool maker was just working at a cost center that was being plundered and went bankrupt. And right now, as he says, Kalashnikovs are being dismantled piece by piece from his words. My father quit, he was laid off, they got him a job at a plant that was one-fifth of the size of the former VSW, they got him a job as a student with no experience or pay grade so that Andersen could live the rest of his life, he says, in his words, there will be a new warehouse there, and guess what, Magnit Cosmetics. Here you judge the words of various eyewitnesses. My opinion as a resident of the city of Tolyatti is that the plant is being dismantled for their own personal interests. My father told me when VSW separated, no matter how it developed, the Japanese came and come and teach mechanics to work, although we know how to work, the Japanese come to earn $1000 a week. Before Andersen, up to 120000 people worked, now up to 20000, simple mathematics where are the salaries. In the 90s, there was enough for everyone, you are ready to work on the “In Cost” conveyor for 20000. The city-forming enterprise has ceased to be anything else, people are leaving, few people want to join the bearded guards and salesmen.

[boec]

As for cars, you have a choice if you have money. That's not the question here. Get Vesta painted by foreigners with Renault technologies and components. AVTOVAZ even earlier had a similar completely domestic project LADA S, which was also successfully launched with the advent of the Alliance. I’ll tell you about myself: I drive a Renault Megane and the car is better than ours, but it’s not developed and manufactured by us, even Vesta, only the body is different. The engines are still new, they promise VAZ ones, the gearbox is meh. Renault. The automatic is ours. The rest is suspension and Renault base. Here's a screwdriver production with a minimum number of people, just the opposite of what V.V.P did NOT want.

[goody]

Dear Konstantin!
You are not right! What is the basis of a quality product (car)? Labor - 5%, regulated process - 50%, materials - 20%, something like that! Who is responsible for creating the process, the worker or the manager? These same people determine the cost of the car. So what do workers and crappy machines have to do with it? Work processes and the quality of materials are now improving, hence the increase in quality. By the way, the assertion that our cars are “crappy” is unfounded and propaganda of various paid “comedians” from some channels. My friends and I have had and still have VAZ cars, the quality is worth the money! VAZ is a good, reliable car. If you want better quality, please, the market is big now, buy it! And you don’t need a lot of intelligence to criticize what is domestic, don’t forget - you are Russian!
About 0.5 centuries - demand determines supply. If a Soviet citizen had no alternative other than what is on the market: Zhiguli, Moskvich, IZH, Volga. That's what they did. The state developed the military-industrial complex and the space industry. The USSR was one of the most powerful powers in the world. A wall separated us from foreign competition. But when new times came, new opportunities came, the Iron Curtain collapsed, and all this happened very quickly... AVTOVAZ fell behind.
About the widespread drunkenness at the plant - this is complete nonsense, now good workers are being laid off, but drunkards and similar people, in the first wave, were behind the fence. Because what can a drunkard give - marriage, absenteeism! Who will work for him? Who will be skinned first, the leader. Here is the answer to whether this is a mass phenomenon or not.
About the tariff barriers for AVTOVAZ - where does this information come from? A high exchange rate and a low standard of living in the 90s were a barrier to the surge in foreign cars. Low demand did not give rise to supply. Until 2014 the picture was radically different - a high standard of living (yes, yes, remember the 90s when there was nothing to eat) gave rise to high demand, the market gave this high demand! Hence the influx of foreign cars, count how many car assembly plants have opened over the past 5 years!
Don’t even compare the quality of Toyota with VAZ’s, if you find a new Toyota at the price of VAZ’s model, then we’ll look and compare.
If you want to support the domestic industry, great, stop criticizing AVTOVAZ, and take a closer look at the new models. There is now something to choose from.
Resident of Togliatti and AVTOVAZ employee since 1997.

[sw6513]

It was clearly said to everyone that there would be no revisions to privatization...

[akvanavt98]

We had an interesting plant. “Baltiets”, they chewed him exactly the same way. my heart was bleeding. but this is Estonia, here their hairy paws were not bored, but this is how it is with you - my condolences.

[4ekist]

Quote: Maxom75

I vote for the Communists, I understand that they will not come to power, but at least let the talkers in the Duma spoil the blood. I am a supporter of the position that large enterprises and concerns (especially raw materials) should belong to the state, and therefore to all citizens. But medium and small enterprises should be private. The main customer for innovation - it should be the state! Only the state has the necessary volume of orders and financial opportunities, and the state should develop the country according to a plan that would take into account the interests of the majority of the population!

This year there are elections, we need to decide who to vote for. I have never voted for United Russia and I don’t intend to.

[Trophxnumx]

Hang this whole vile pack that plundered the plant, in one row, on Red Square. At one time there was an article for treason and sabotage, under this article they shot believers whose people were called sectarians, but now such “creatures” rob the country’s factories and no one from above moves, “Lord, what’s wrong with these people”... why are our State supervisors authorities allow such ghouls to buy such factories, give them to honest people who will take care of the Country.

___CONSEQUENCES OF 70 YEARS OF IGODITY, A SCORNED CONSCIENCE AND THE EVIL HEART OF MAN___

[Vitaly72]

I almost never give downvotes, but here, are you a sectarian?

[vka]

Here we have the ROTOR plant in Kamyshin, no politics, the director is a complete degenerate, the enterprise survived the nineties and worked, even took a high place in the number of people working with higher education - but they appointed a supervisor (the plant is part of a merger) and now there is practically little left of the plant . "and no politics, just business"

[akvanavt98]

Is there no politics in this? Entrepreneurs are destroying their own capacities, this is some kind of politics. Almost all the enterprises in our city have collapsed: the Baltiets plant, the Krenholm Manufactory, and a dozen more city-forming enterprises. Only 15 percent of the state district power plants remain. We are always disturbing someone here, they buy them back and use them as beads. And also a Russian-speaking city. There was no war, but they are quietly squeezing them out.
When they commissioned the metal plant, somewhere in my head there were thoughts that somewhere the technology has been preserved and the work of our fathers will not die, but now it’s the same for you. I spread my hands.

[Nimitz]

Quote: Kostya Andrei

Explain to me why I should pay your friends money if they made crappy cars. Look at the number of employees at VAZ and Toyota, and the quantity and quality of cars produced.
It’s interesting that when teetotalers worked at VAZ, the quality was not... now they work there with alcoholics and drug addicts without education, but the quality and assortment are improving.
In order not to be suspected of bias, I’ll say that I have a foreign car, and I’m thinking about my next car, ours.
We need Russian car manufacturers to stop experimenting on Russian car enthusiasts and selling them buckets with the help of the state. VAZ has been making Lada cars for almost half a century, who stopped them from putting new cars on the assembly line, Putin? For the vase, duties were introduced at the end of the 90s, and where is the development, what’s new. suggested?
I want the car I bought to drive with the money I earned and not break down, and I want this money to stay in Russia. Enough is enough.

Dear Konstantin, when VAZ was in the Zhiguli era, they simply didn’t let us do anything else, because it wasn’t necessary (I won’t explain to anyone). And believe me, I was also offended that my first car had many defects. When my yesterday’s classmates rose to the first positions as engineers, a convoy of expensive Mercedes with security and road closures arrived at VAZ from the airport every Tuesday; these were the “new” owners of VAZ who flew to work (can you guess who it is), and on Thursday evening they also left with pomp. And my friends were punished and fined for any attempt to make improvements. For any expenditure on production was considered a crime against the pockets of these characters. And at the end of the work shifts, the “gangster” shift was in full swing, so imagine the quality you can get on a machine made in 60 that works non-stop. Regarding the number of employees, almost all foreign factories do not have such a concentration of production. After all, VAZ even had its own metallurgy and tool production. Regarding the current quality, if you exploit it, then praise it. I personally cannot do this. I have the right to compare, because I work, with foreign-made cars.

[boris117]

Quote: onix757

This is a liberal industrial policy,

An amazing fact. How could this be allowed? In our country, high-tech industries are being openly destroyed, openly before everyone’s eyes. And tomorrow how will we defend the country? Only with a Kalashnikov assault rifle? Oh, it's time to stop. Where are the president and the relevant services looking?

[boec]

Kalashnikov, by the way, recently on Channel One also shouted about Togliatti, if possible, although there was some other topic. Many large enterprises in the city, as well as for the region and the country, are dying.

[Old warrior]

What surprises you? Since the collapse of the USSR, we have been slowly but surely sliding into the abyss. Purposeful sabotage is underway. They come to steal, not to work.

[Fonmeg]

The collapse of the country's economy did not end with the arrival of Putin, and recently there has been an intensive destruction of the remnants of the former power of the Russian state! The State Department expresses special gratitude to the activists!!!

[alfa19638]

destroy, steal your production, buy everything from partners and get rich from problems that you yourself created - this is what the enemies of the people do, and liberalism, it will destroy everything material and, worst of all, it will pervert spirituality, destroy ideals... the result will not be long in coming

[vlad_vlad]

Quote: Altona

Quote: vlad_vlad

but Germany has a very strong average family business - companies from 50 to 500 million euros in turnover.

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Launch you postmodernism in full - the release of analogs in China, gaster, taxation and expensive credit and grunts with female genitals your entire "family business" and "welfare state" ...

We don’t need to launch postmodernism - we launched it for ourselves a long time ago. and nothing. We don’t quack. Non-German companies produce a lot in China, but also in Germany, investing both their own and from abroad (Germany, in my opinion, receives about 300 billion investments from abroad)

[Goldmitro]

Here it is important to know which customers Andersson called non-core. The termination of the release of VSW of just one nomenclature of parts - roller-screw transmission caused problems and dependence on foreign suppliers in the enterprises of the automotive industry, aircraft manufacturing, nuclear energy, and, most importantly, the military-industrial complex. And such strategically important parts and assemblies VMP produced dozens of items!

How can this be tolerated? This is real PAST! Why won't anyone stop this insolent "Varangian"?

With one hand, the country is for once pursuing an independent foreign policy worthy of its status. And the other invites a foreign citizen who began to destroy its defenses. What else can you expect from him?

[tehnokrat]

Quote: olimpiada15

For whom is this done? What is the proper name for those involved in the destruction of Russian industry?
Does the FSB perform its functions? We are talking about the economic security of the country.

Wow, that reminded me of something!
I remembered! Yesterday, here, we said something about treason, Article 58...
Will there be an investigation? I wonder if maybe, if not GDP, at least Peskov reads VO?

[koralvit]

This is a question of the short-sighted policy of Medvedev, who is also a liberal. Everything is handed over to entrepreneurs who are not interested in the interests of Russia, not all of them, of course, their task is to fill their pockets more and make profits abroad. at the government level we need a planned economic policy for the development of the country, but for now there is only talk about import substitution, it is now fashionable, if you talk about it, it means you are on the crest of a wave. But time passes and these people will find themselves under the wave. It's a pity that a lot of time will be lost. This is the situation not only in industry, but also in education and healthcare, endless and ineffective reforms.

[Kachesgm]

I read the comments and can state that now the GOI in St. Petersburg is going bankrupt, and they were able to somehow survive in the 90s... The Kirov plant has turned into a bunch of shams, and before they also produced tanks. I don’t understand those who secretly or actively call for a shift in power. Following the example of Ukraine, in the event of unrest, they will tear us apart even faster than they are now secretly destroying us. Apparently the threat of a nuclear boom is forcing some to quietly liquidate the “Russia project”... Moreover, in the event of unrest and a change of power, we will go down or collapse, foreigners will not allow us to rise... Surrender to the West - we will not live better - they will destroy production even faster. And so we ourselves are being destroyed slowly but surely... The situation is stalemate. How to change the course of the country without allowing intervention, collapse and the coming to power of other “unreliable” individuals? How to prevent the loss of territories in a moment of timelessness and anarchy? Does anyone have any idea? Just shooting everyone and taking everything away won’t work—the world economy, corporations, states, unions won’t forgive all this—they’ll cut off the oxygen in the form of necessary goods, and we are no longer autonomous as before... Is there a possibility or a recipe for creeping, secretive change authorities, as well as a course towards at least partial restoration of the country?

[Alexey Lobanov]

I have mixed feelings about the article. On the one hand, “a sausage shop instead of three enterprises,” but, on the other, “...golden people, instead of fulfilling orders for the needs of the defense industry, the automotive industry, space and aviation, will engage in handicrafts in garages...”
If in the article the author had indicated, at least superficially, exactly what orders were carried out by the “golden men” for the defense industry, space and aviation, his indignation would have been clearer.
My Motherland is still strange in its loving nature, we accept millions of migrants to work in “unpopular” jobs, and they themselves have millions of “paper shifters,” watchmen, security officers, “office plankton,” resellers, including “ hard workers" who spend 90% of their working time not on production, but on "ordering their father-in-law, matchmaker, brother...". Plus to this bright picture - tens of thousands of “effective” managers...

[Old warrior]

Dear! Where does this knowledge of "hard workers" come from? You yourself are obviously very far from the machine, otherwise you wouldn’t be talking complete nonsense about matchmakers...or are you judging by yourself? As a worker, I declare that we work hard from bell to bell, even when the new bosses put a spoke in the wheels and in every possible way prevent us from working normally, because if we don’t work hard, everything that has worked for 80 years will fall apart to hell. As for the fucking bosses, the time will come: “There will be a holiday on our street.” (c) J.V. Stalin.

[pin head]

Quote: Baikonur

Today I heard a new word - “LIBEROIDS” (A. Wasserman, “Open Text”, REN_TV)!
Smiled!

more correctly - Liebermans

[BladeRunner]

That's right - liberdons!

[pts-m]

Simple question. If they know or guess about sabotage, then why don’t they take action. Or only in words, but for discussion at VO.

[Ilya77]

I visited VSW, the plant was really advanced, they made robots, and they did a lot of things, for example, RVP, except for them, no one made mass production in Russia. After this, I consider Boo Andersson a pest, it’s the way it should be, a couple of thousand on the street, machines on the street, production running smoothly.

[Vadim237]

If the plant had made a profit, it would not have been closed, and no one needs work at a loss.

[vlad.1924]

Mechanical engineering, including machine tool building, is the basis of any state, and this foundation is being destroyed in Russia! And who? Some kind of hired foreign managers!?! Why does the government allow this on Russian territory? In state-owned mechanical engineering enterprises, the state must have a controlling stake...

[Vadim237]

What kind of machines did VSW produce?

[Hariton laptev]

Here’s a rhetorical question, every year the state allocates a carload of dough to support the Russian automobile industry and not just a carload, but drives in whole trains, and as I understand it, Mr. Bu Anderson sits at the helm of the unprofitable automobile industry, so maybe the little chest opens easier, maybe Mr. Anderson is a misplaced Cossack ? Why does the adversary need to raise our auto industry? Well, and along the way, everything that can and cannot be destroyed, so that everything would become unprofitable.

[asher]

Yaroslavna’s lament for VSW, given in the article, is a belated revelation that suddenly fell on the heads of adherents of various perestroikas, under Gorbachev, under Yeltsin, under Putin. We betrayed millions of Russians in the republics, throwing them to the mercy of the nationals, and now we are surprised at the marginalized people and mankurts in the Baltic states and Ukraine. Under the flags of conversion and market reforms, unique enterprises were destroyed along with equipment and specialists, and now we are crying for the small enterprise VSW, simply because we see that there are no more like them. By the way, in this situation, our Putin since 2008 is somewhat reminiscent of Yanukovych, who at the last moment realized what nasty things the EU and its association were preparing and backed down. In Russia, sacred private property and investments of partners have been declared more valuable than state interests and they are trying to cross a hedgehog and a snake. Well, the interests of business owners do not meet the interests of Russia, even if they cry at a gallop, they will have to choose one thing.

[Ilya77]

Well, by today's standards, VSW was not small, the machine park was under a thousand, and not very old equipment.

[asher]

Before my eyes, two large aviation enterprises turned to dust in Tashkent and Saratov. And there were a lot of machines and everything else there. Unique stocks and unique high-precision machines in front of the bulldozer scrap metal!

[frames 184]

Maybe the time has come to create partisan detachments to shoot effective local managers. Nothing convinces faster than a bullet. Although radical, it is very intelligible.

[Vadim237]

This is a dead number - no one wants to sit for 20 years.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Vadim237

This is a dead number - no one wants to sit for 20 years.

Here's how to look:

Grandfather found a grenade in the field.
He put it in his pocket and went to the district committee.
He pulled the ring and threw it out the window...
Grandfather is old, he doesn’t care.

[Outside]

I already posted this on another thread, but it would be more appropriate here. The list is updated:

Moskvich Plant (AZLK) (genus 1930 - killed by 2010)
Factory "Red Proletariat" (genus 1857 - killed 2010)
Izhevsk Motorcycle Plant (genus 1928 - killed by 2009)
Irbit Motorcycle Plant (Ural) (genus 1941 - present in a coma after being wounded)
Pavlovsk Tool Plant (genus 1820 - killed by 2011)
Factory "Record" (genus 1957 - killed 1996)
Lipetsk Tractor Plant (genus 1943 - killed by 2009)
Altai Tractor Plant (Rubtsovsk) (genus 1942 - killed by 2010)
Shipyard Avangard (Petrozavodsk) (genus 1939 - killed by 2010)
Shipyard OJSC "HC Dalzavod" (Vladivostok) (genus 1895 - killed 2009)
Radio plant PO Vega (Berdsk, Novosibirsk region) (genus 1946 - killed 1999)
Saratov Aviation Plant (genus 1931– killed by 2010)
Omsk Transport Engineering Plant (genus 1896 - killed by 2009)
Chelyabinsk watch factory "Lightning" (genus 1947 - killed 2009)
Uglich watch factory "The Seagull" (genus 1938 - killed by 2009)
Penza watch factory "Dawn" (genus 1935 - killed 1999)
The second Moscow watch factory “Glory” (genus 1924 - killed by 2006)
Chistopol watch factory “Vostok” (genus 1941– killed by 2010)
Moscow Machine-Tool Plant named after Sergo Ordzhonikidze (genus 1932 - killed by 2007)
Stankomash Plant (Chelyabinsk) (genus 1935 - killed by 2009)
Ryazan Machine Tool Plant (genus 1949 - killed by 2008)
Kronstadt Marine Plant (genus 1858 - killed by 2005)
Kuzbasselement Plant (genus 1942 - killed by 2008)
Irkutsk Radio Plant (genus 1945 - killed by 2007)
Precision casting plant “Centrolit” (Lipetsk) (genus 1963 - killed by 2009)
Khor Biochem plant (Khabarovsk Territory) (genus 1982 - killed by 1997)
Tomsk Instrument Plant (genus 1961 - killed by 2007)
Sivinit Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (genus 1970 - killed by 2004)
Krasnoyarsk TV Factory (genus 1952 - killed by 2003)
Dynamo Plant (Moscow) (genus 1897 - killed by 2009)
Oryol plant managing computers named. K.N. Rudneva (genus 1968 - killed 2006)
Orenburg Hardware Plant (genus 1943 - killed by 2009)
Khabarovsk plant "EVGO" (genus 2000 - killed 2009)
Ulyanovsk Radio Tube Plant (genus 1959 - killed by 2003)
Plant them. Kozitsky (St. Petersburg) (genus 1853 - present in a coma after being wounded)
Sibelektrostal Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (genus 1952 - killed by 2008)
Orenburg silk fabric factory "Orenburg Textile" (b. 1972 - killed 2004)
Barysh factory them. Gladysheva (Ulyanovsk Region) (genus 1825 - killed by 2005)
Flax Association them. I.D. Zvorykina (Kostroma) (genus 1939 - killed by 2011)
Kamyshinsky cotton mill them. Kosygina (Volgograd Region) (genus 1955 - present in a coma after being wounded)
Trekhgornaya manufactory (Moscow) (genus 1799 - present in a coma after being wounded)
Far Eastern Radio Plant (Komsomolsk-on-Amur) (genus 1993 - killed by 2009)
Bicycle plant (Yoshkar-Ola) (genus 1950 - killed 2006)
Bicycle plant (Nizhny Novgorod) (genus 1940 - killed 2007)
Perm Bicycle Plant (genus 1939 - killed by 2006)
Proletarian Plant (St. Petersburg) (genus 1826 - present in a coma after being wounded)
Baltic Plant (genus 1856 - killed by 2011)
Sibtyazhmash Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (genus 1941 - killed by 2011)
Khimprom Plant (Volgograd) (genus 1931 - killed by 2010)
Irkutsk driveshaft plant (genus 1974 - killed by 2004)
Tchaikovsky precision engineering plant (Perm Territory) (genus 1978 - killed by 1998)
Izhmash Plant (Izhevsk) (genus 1807 - killed by 2012)

[yuriy55]

The number of caring people even here is impressive. Not those who shout at every corner that Russia is dying, not those who shout “Hurray!!!” at any action or decision of the government, but those who are not indifferent to the fate of the Fatherland, because they do not see their existence outside of it. They are not only jealous of any encroachments on their homeland, because it is the tomb of their ancestors and the cradle of their children and grandchildren. They care how their future life turns out: in honor and justice or in theft and lies...

[asher]

There are not enough aircraft factories; Saratov is in ruins, and the rest are even Irkutsk, where fighters are assembled, and Novosibirsk with its Sushki, Ulyanovsk Association and other Voronezh, Kazan, etc. they live very poorly (just look at their vacancies. The production of up to a dozen aircraft a year already indicates the insolvency of the enterprise. A number of tire factories have also been destroyed. Not all is well in Novosibirsk either. Various aircraft and car repair factories have also been forgotten.

[doework]

Quote: NGK

The president, like a captain on a steamship, is responsible for everything that happens. I didn’t know the words, I didn’t know, the subordinates are to blame - they don’t pass! He knows everything and is in charge of everything, and nothing happens in the country without his consent. So don't get your hopes up! It won't get any better!

I think that the Guarantor will not be allowed to actually do anything, and he is not eager to do so. Because the driving and only force that sets in motion the state machine from millions of bureaucrats remains PROFIT. They go to power quite deliberately not in order to work (produce, get money, spin, search, borrow and repay, pay taxes, etc.), but to STEAL (even if it is not called that directly). In our country, the term “work” has long been replaced by the concept of “getting a job” (receiving a salary, a kickback, not being responsible, and sharing resources, the melting pile of which is made up of millions of taxpayers and contributions from super-monopolies).
Financial flows from cuts are distributed at the stage of budget approval... none of this camarilla will cut the branch on which they sit... Corruption permeates ALL levels of government, all stages of life, any career, all types of production and corrodes all human souls. ..
This entire gangster superstructure will sit on our necks until it is thrown off...
It is served by the audio-visual interface of television and print, shoulder straps of all stripes, courts and the prosecutor's office..
We curse the West for the disruption and collapse... Yes, our bastards are worse than the West, and they have no number! And the Guarantor is the manager of the colony, appointed by the clans. So Dima-Volodya-Dima-Volodya will change. Boring, cynical and hopeless...
Fuck it!

[Viktor2410]

Whether there will be more, we vote for a united Russia, let them eat a little more!

[Roxa]

Yes, you read articles like this, and then you listen to the speeches of our ministers and you understand no... fuck... they don’t know how the country lives, they live in their own world and don’t show their noses beyond their dachas

[Alexandra1970]

But I wonder where the Russian government, and in particular Mr. Medvedev, is looking? Is it really the bad blood of our ancestors that prevents us from thinking normally, or does Medvedev not need a strong Russia? So what does the president intend to do now? Will he hit the brakes again or do what he did with Yukos?

[Mosen6Ish]

These effective managers need to be driven out with a filthy broom - there are plenty of their own shifters here.

[NordUral]

Who is our authority?

[Alex 74]

The longer this all goes on, the more I respect Stalin.

[aviapit123]

Quote: asher

Isn’t it time to start uniting, at least on the basis of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, clearing it of capitalist sponsors, crooks who are ready to surrender to any party for a place in the Duma and moss-covered old women who are out of touch with reality?

It's time ....
I am for, as an option, KPE (Conceptual Party Unity)

[Old warrior]

You can also call it the Justice League...

[Volzhanin]

What do Comrade Putin and other zealous import substitutionists think about this?
There were several dozen similar cases in 2015 alone!
Or, as in Ameripedia, it has become the norm for the cattle to say one thing, but in reality do something completely different.
So the people will not understand what is happening - just another redistribution of the people's property, or the quiet drain of Russia to the West under a patriotic screen, or is it still a movement towards independence?

[717]

pre-election PR)) VSW ?? where did he get this from? everything that has been released up to the Priora is just a pitiful semblance of competition with other manufacturers. the quality was not so good. theft from the cleaning lady to the general manager (each in his own way). Anderson, to put it mildly, put everyone at ease and forced them to work somehow. and 2/3 of the plant should have been fired back in 1991.

[aviapit123]

Quote: olimpiada15

A very interesting point is reflected in the article.
Situation development:
1) There is an independent effective profitable enterprise.
2) Subordinate the enterprise to AvtoVAZ.
3) The enterprise, under conditions of subordination, begins to work only for one industry, therefore it becomes ineffective
4) The new owner gets rid of the enterprise, which has become a burden.
The chain of their 4 moves led the country’s desired enterprise to liquidation and made many industries dependent on imports.
For whom is this done? What is the proper name for those involved in the destruction of Russian industry?
Does the FSB perform its functions? We are talking about the economic security of the country.
And the worst thing is that this situation reminded the destruction of the country in the 90s.
It is often blamed for the collapse of the country of the Communists. And this case suggests that the same force destroyed the USSR, came to power, and continues to pursue the course of colonizing the country.

read it... and repeat again.

[R0B0T]

Quote: msm

It's time to bring back the "troikas", camps and the tower

as well as the first and second sections,
machine-building enterprises of strategic importance should be under special control.

[nogBogHuk]

On February 1, AVTOVAZ suffered a “severe” loss
The departure of the “first lady” Katerzina Matushkova from VAZ immediately followed a series of scandalous articles in the media, including regarding the disregard of the company’s management towards the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

[KrolikZanuda]

Boo Andersson is the best thing that has happened at VAZ recently. A competent production worker and manager, unfortunately there were no such people at VAZ. And VSW was sold - resold and destroyed under Esipovsky and Artyakov. There has been no normal equipment or workers there for a long time. Elections are coming soon in the Samara region, so a certain Kalashnikov found something to cry about)

[Hammer]

The Jewish world government sent a Cossack woman to AvtoVAZ to destroy the Volga plant for bloody dollars!!! Light the torches, prepare the scaffolds, let's run to save the Russian girl from being completely robbed.
I'm ashamed that so many people believed this nonsense.

[serge siberian]

for this 25 years without the right to correspondence without investigation!!!

[colonel manuch]

“Effective managers” will not work for the benefit of Russia - this is an axiom. They only harm and steal.

[complete zero]

Well, well, there are enemies all around (everywhere you throw yourself, oops)...and that Putin DOESN’T KNOW about this???? or did he not take part in “getting the country hooked on imports and loans” all the years of high hydrocarbon prices???? why make a martyr out of him????? It can’t be that the ministers and bankers are enemies and the president is a saint...if nothing works out, say so and resign from office.

[konvalval]

And where does the party leader of our party look? I heard that he is also the prime minister of our government.

[Dewa1s]

a real treasure trove of unique technologies - they were dumped in piles into garbage containers

Blew up. They forgot to add “having no analogues in the world.”
Can you be more specific about these “unique technologies”?

The Hyundai plant built in an open field - 2200 workers and 200+ thousand cars per year.
The old monster AvtoVAZ - 50000+ workers and 500+ thousand cars per year.
And this is after the layoffs; before that, there were twice as many clowns swarming around there.

[complete zero]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

It is understandable, now for world imperialism the main thing is to destroy Russia. To do this, it is necessary to destroy its industry.

Yes, we (our authorities) DESTROYED it OURSELVES, started in the nineties and continued until this Ukrainian crisis, that Putin was prevented by who for so many years of crazy oil prices?... and now he’s itching for a while

[bsk_mna54]

Who is to blame, and what should we do about it? In Russia, such issues are never resolved in favor of the people until the people decide what to do with such fools and traitors. And how many of them there have been over the last quarter of a century: what we know, and how much we don’t know! We also want to develop and preserve Russia. Yes, this is a bluff on the part of the authorities. Every single one of them are regional committee workers in Washington.

[vladimirw]

Andersson from AvtoVAZ is the same specialist who made every effort to destroy GAZ and this plant practically no longer exists

[Caramba]

Where is the landing?

[Diviz]

Where is patriotism and what does it come with? Putin spoke about patriotism. What kind of surname is this? It’s a familiar surname somewhere, I’ve already heard this official somewhere, and well, in a story at school.