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Erdogan is not Tamerlan

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Elders predicted the collapse of Turkey


With the current demand for futurological research, the enormous spiritual, mystical experience of people who had the gift to look into the future remains unclaimed. From time immemorial, princes and tsars going to the army listened to them.

Clairvoyants did not disdain even later, the most famous examples were Hitler and Stalin. There is evidence that current politicians also use the services of custodians of secret knowledge.

Fasting on the aggressor


Erdogan is not TamerlanIn ancient times, no self-respecting commander dared to take a step before the soothsayers, fortunetellers or magicians around him promised the favor of heaven. The clearest example of our stories - Tamerlan’s campaign against Russia. Having conquered all the nearest countries, passing Central Asia, the countries of the Middle East, the Caucasus, Egypt, India, in 1395, the Iron Chromean moved to Russia with fire and sword. In Moscow, then the son of Dmitry Donskoy ruled - the young Prince Vasily Dmitrievich, who had neither the strength nor the ability to resist the conquerors. To count on someone's help, except for God, was not necessary. And then, on the advice of Metropolitan Cyprian in Russia, a nationwide strict fast was declared, and the famous icon of the Mother of God was transferred from Vladimir to Moscow by a procession.

Tamerlane, who was in the Yelets area at that time, had a dream in which a formidable woman in red appeared, commanding him to turn back immediately. Someone from the environment of the half-world conqueror interpreted the image as follows: this is the Mother of the Russian God, it is better not to get involved with her. Quarreling with the gods was not included in the plans of Tamerlane, and he turned his hordes to the south. This is the story of the amazing salvation of Russia, not only domestic, but also foreign, in particular, Eastern chronicles.

From Abel to Seraphim

Among the most frequently mentioned domestic prophets is Abel. Born in 1757, near Tula, he became a monk, and soon after suffering an illness, he discovered the gift of divination. In particular, Catherine II predicted how much she would be on the throne and when she would die. Infuriated by the insolence of the cherk, the empress ordered that Abel be imprisoned in a fortress. But the date of death he had promised came true. The next object of the monk's prophecies was the emperor Pavel Petrovich. After meeting with the holy elder, he made a mysterious testament, which was to be opened 100 years after the death of the monarch, whom Abel did not fail to remind him. And again was accurate. Emperor Alexander Pavlovich uncompromising soothsayer predicted Moscow surrendered to the enemy, which extended the sentence. Abel died imprisoned in 1831, and Paul’s testament was revealed in the Romanovs ’1901 year. What was said there is not known exactly, but eyewitnesses claim that the august family that day was in a gloomy mood.

The most famous devotees of the spirit, who possessed the gift of perspicacity and revered by the Orthodox Church, should include Seraphim Sarovsky, who, while in the Mordovian forests, knew what was happening in the capital and other places, predicting, for example, an uprising on Senate Square. Having died in 1833, he predicted an unsuccessful Crimean War, a revolution, the death of a dynasty. Seeing further events, even the collapse of the USSR, the holy old man kept a firm faith in the Fatherland. At the end of his conversations he certainly recalled: "The Lord will have mercy on Russia and lead it through suffering to great glory."

"A lot of blood will be shed"


We will not focus on the holy elders, who foresaw what has now become a reality, but turn to predictions that relate to the future that has not yet come. Among them are the prophecies of the famous elder, confessor of the Odessa Holy Dormition Monastery Iona Ignatenko, who died in 2012 year. He, in particular, said that after his death serious unrest will begin in Ukraine and the first after them will be bloody Easter, the second - hungry, and the third - victorious. The elder warned about the war between Russia and America, which will start because of a third country. A lot of blood will be shed, but our Fatherland will win.

Many revered elders, our contemporaries: Seraphim Tyapochkin and Christopher of Tula, blessed Nikolai Trubin, spoke about the restoration of a strong Russia in alliance with the fraternal Slavic peoples led by the single king. And, of course, Jerome Sanaksarsky and Nikolai Guryanov.

The prophecies about Russian-Turkish relations, which six months ago seemed cloudless, include the words of two Greek monks from Athos: Cosmas of Aetolia and Paisius Svyatogorets. Saint Cosmas, who lived in the XNUMXth century, spoke, for example, about iron birds, now peacefully flying through the sky, then spewing fire, - about the present Aviation. He foretold a telephone connection: “The whole world will be surrounded by one string, people will talk from one distant locality to another, for example from Constantinople with Russia.” And this: “Thieves and robbers will no longer hunt in the mountains. They will live in cities, dress like ordinary people, and come in broad daylight to rob you. ”

As for the still unrealized, Cosma predicted the defeat of the Turks, the liberation of Constantinople (Istanbul): “The Turks will reach the six-mile (sea) zone. Of these, one third will perish, one third will believe in Christ, and one third will go to Kokkini Milla ”(place in present-day Iraq).

"The Turks will be destroyed"

Cosme was echoed by Paisius, especially revered in Russia, who died in 1994 year and canonized by the Hellas (Greek) Orthodox Church: “The city (Constantinople) will be given to the Greeks as a result of the war between Russia and Turkey. The Turks will be destroyed and erased from the map forever. It will be divided into three or four parts. ” Once, an old man was asked about events in the former Yugoslavia, and he replied: “Today, for the Turks, Europeans create independent states with a Muslim population (Bosnia, Herzegovina). However, I see that in the future they will delicately divide Turkey itself: the Kurds will rise and the Armenians and Europeans will demand recognition of independence and the right of these peoples to self-determination. Then they will tell Turkey: “We have once done you a favor, now the Kurds and Armenians should gain independence in this way.”

The course of the war can be judged by his statements: “When the Russians descend into the straits (Bosphorus and Dardanelles), then other European states will say: should we not go there? The West will demand that Russia withdraw its troops. She will refuse, and then forces will begin to gather against her. A world war will begin, and the Russians will have losses. We will observe massacres, cities will become slums. ” “Russians will want to enter the Mediterranean. It will be a “spring”. But this is not entirely true. The truth is that God will call them as his warriors. Going down, they will destroy the Turk within one week. And when the friends of Turkey, NATO, come down to save it, then there will be a big clash. ”

“The world,” the elder stressed, “is always governed by the Word of God, neither Americans nor Europeans govern it. They can dominate not for long. God allows them to punish themselves. There will be events that will shake the nations. It will not be the Second Coming yet, but people will return to faith ... ”

Paisius at one time foresaw the collapse of the USSR and the disintegration of Yugoslavia: “The fire that broke out in the Balkans would flare up. The Orthodox peoples of the Balkans will face NATO forces in Turkey, which will disappear from the world map. Cyprus will get a big slap from the Turks, but it will be temporary. Byzantium will be reborn from our roots. ”
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  1. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 19: 38
    +2
    What kind of nonsense? On my favorite VO articles ran out? Now we wang?
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 3 February 2016 19: 53
      0
      True, have come. On VO articles of a mystical orientation are published. With this you need to go to the conspiracy theories website.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 3 February 2016 19: 58
        +9
        Quote: Deniska999
        With this you need to go to the conspiracy theories website.

        Conspiracy studies will be more convincing. And this is some kind of obscurantism. Like "The Greek elders predict - the Russians will come and the Turks will stretch their tomatoes. And we, the Greeks, will watch from the sidelines." It's cool, of course, that the Russians again beat some, while others must be released. But no one owes the Russians anything. Good prophecy, wow.
        But people like it, however.
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 3 February 2016 20: 38
          +5
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Conspiracy studies will be more convincing. And this is some kind of obscurantism. Like "Greek elders predict - Russians will come and Turk pulled on the very tomatoes

          in vain you are so - see what life-giving "negotiations" do
          just need to be able to talk soldier
          ========.
          https://russian.rt.com/article/146002
          Media: Armed forces near Aleppo decided to go over to the side of the Syrian army
          Armed groups operating north of Aleppo have declared their readiness to fight on the side of Syrian government forces. This was reported by local media.
          “Armed groups north of Aleppo confirm their willingness to fight on the side of the Syrian army,” RIA Novosti quoted the Syrian television channel as saying.
        2. WKS
          WKS 3 February 2016 21: 54
          +4
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          But nobody owes anything to the Russians. Good prophecy, what.
          But people like it, however.

          The Greek people are natural.
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 3 February 2016 22: 28
            0
            Quote: wks
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            But nobody owes anything to the Russians. Good prophecy, what.
            But people like it, however.

            The Greek people are natural.

            Judging by the pluses to the material, there are two-thirds of the Greeks. bully
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 41
              +2
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              Judging by the pluses to the material, there are two-thirds of the Greeks.

              Everything is much simpler, the Turks are now far from being my friends, to put it mildly, and the Greeks, if only because the Orthodox are closer to us, and the Orthodox faith came to us from them
              1. Seal
                Seal 3 February 2016 23: 58
                0
                and the Orthodox faith came to us from them
                Then why are all the main church terms in the Russian Orthodox Church not Greek, but Latin? Including the very term "faith", which in Greek would be "doka".
    2. poquello
      poquello 3 February 2016 19: 54
      +3
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      What kind of nonsense? On my favorite VO articles ran out? Now we wang?

      yeah, shit
      Somehow a man was walking down the street, he sees - a sign "Fortune-telling office". "Give, - he thinks - I'll come and tell fortunes." Comes in. In front of him is a completely dark room. Suddenly a Voice is heard out of nowhere.
      (D) - What, man, came to guess?
      (M) - Yes ...
      (D) - Then drink from the cup!
      A bowl appears in the middle of the room. A man takes a drink and votes:
      (M) - Fuh, it's shit !!!
      (D) - I guessed ...

      http://www.calabonga.com/museum/show/4655
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 20: 05
        -2
        laughing I already choked on laughter ... thanks)))
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    4. vovanpain
      vovanpain 3 February 2016 19: 57
      16
      Or maybe it’s not worth it to vang. Cover can.
    5. NIKNN
      NIKNN 3 February 2016 19: 58
      +8
      the mystical experience of people who had the gift to look into the future. From time immemorial, princes and kings have been listening to them.

      Clairvoyants did not disdain even later, the most famous examples were Hitler and Stalin. There is evidence that current politicians also use the services of custodians of secret knowledge.

      Well, if Erdogan believes in predictions, then with the option:
      “The city (Constantinople) will be given to the Greeks as a result of the war between Russia and Turkey. Turks will be destroyed and erased from the map forever. It will be divided into three or four parts. "

      he will be foolish to the last, trying to find a way out of a hopeless situation, at least to get rich no matter what, and also his task is to unleash the world (to push NATO with Russia before Turkey is divided according to the forecast (let’s slip by the noise). However, it’s better he should listen to Russia, because not for nothing:
      Someone from the environment of the conqueror of the half-world interpreted the image as follows: this is the Mother of the Russian God, it is better not to mess with her. Quarreling with the gods was not part of Tamerlane's plans, and he turned his hordes to the south. This is the story of the amazing salvation of Russia, not only domestic but also foreign, in particular, eastern chronicles.
      hi
      1. bhdir1946
        bhdir1946 3 February 2016 20: 24
        -3
        Mother of the Russian God? It is strange that they used such a term
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 3 February 2016 20: 29
          +4
          Quote: bhdir1946
          Mother of the Russian God? It is strange that they used such a term

          What is the oddity?
          1. Lanista
            Lanista 3 February 2016 20: 58
            +2
            What is the oddity?

            That Tamerlane is a Muslim, not a pagan. And who is Mariam, he was in the know.
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 3 February 2016 21: 19
              +2
              Quote: Lanista
              What is the oddity?

              That Tamerlane is a Muslim, not a pagan. And who is Mariam, he was in the know.

              He may be aware, only now Mother of Russian God so it was not called Tamerlan, but his surroundings which interpreted his dream to him.
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      1. RUSS
        RUSS 3 February 2016 20: 56
        +3
        Quote: vladfill
        Favorite Church

        And what's wrong with that, is it bothering you to live?
        Quote: vladfill
        more temples than schools

        This is not a fact.
        Quote: vladfill
        draw

        Who is this?
        Quote: vladfill
        they are in the DUMA, in the army, in politics. in the minds ..

        In your mind too?
      2. Sober
        Sober 3 February 2016 21: 21
        +1
        Quote: vladfill
        Favorite Church

        I am not for discussing such topics on this site. Yes, and also I do not like, looking for all kinds of predictions. But who gave you the right to talk about what you don’t understand. When, here on the site, military-political topics are discussed, semi-literate people who are not versed in these issues are mentally emotional profane. And you better keep quiet.
        1. vladfill
          vladfill 3 February 2016 21: 56
          +1
          What’s better for me, I’ll somehow figure it out without you even if only because
          what is not given by you, to me, the right to say what I think and, here's what else - your home advice
          set your own.
          1. Sober
            Sober 3 February 2016 23: 03
            0
            Quote: vladfill
            What is better for me, I will somehow figure it out without you

            Of course you’ll figure it out!
      3. _Alexei_
        _Alexei_ 3 February 2016 22: 36
        -1
        not in the minds of a respected, but in the heart
    7. st25310
      st25310 3 February 2016 20: 08
      15
      In 1999, I personally heard from Archimandrite Peter (Kucher) that there will be a war with Turkey. It was then impossible to imagine ...
      1. Pirogov
        Pirogov 3 February 2016 20: 35
        +7
        Well, if only with Turkey!
    8. Su24
      Su24 3 February 2016 21: 42
      +3
      The wonderful prophetic words of St. Paisius. Only fools can ignore them.
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    10. Kirill
      Kirill 3 February 2016 22: 57
      +1
      Sometimes you need to get distracted, switch your attention wink
    11. asiat_61
      asiat_61 4 February 2016 04: 14
      0
      -Ah, you do not read Soviet newspapers before breakfast.
    12. user
      user 4 February 2016 13: 38
      0
      that the august family that day was in a gloomy mood.


      Well, at least the august person did not go into the bout. . . . .
  2. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 3 February 2016 19: 40
    0
    "Syria has not yet fallen ...." Vanga.
    Prophecies are of course a mystical thing. But how many people are ready to believe anything just to win.
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 19: 45
      13
      My wife is addicted to the "battle of psychics" - I just can't ... turns out of this idiocy (both the wife and the presenters and psychics). I tolerate sad
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 3 February 2016 20: 00
        +6
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        twists already from this idiocy (and the wife and leading and psychics). I tolerate

        Inject your wife something soothing, you are a doctor. And cut the cable from the TV.
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 20: 08
          +4
          meat injection? repeat
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 3 February 2016 20: 57
            0
            Quote: Dr. Bormental
            meat injection? repeat

            Flood.
            1. Dr. Bormental
              Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 21: 04
              0
              Why flood?
              1. RUSS
                RUSS 3 February 2016 21: 22
                +4
                Quote: Dr. Bormental
                Why flood?

                Because Flood - non-topic posts in online forums and chat rooms,
                article about predictions and forecasts, and you about ..... you yourself know what, in short, your comments are not dark at all.
                1. Dr. Bormental
                  Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 22: 33
                  +1
                  Excuse me, RUSS, my message about the meat prick was sent to the respected Ami du peuple, in response to his message directly related to the topic of the article. If it does not bother you, either do not read my comments, or do not fill your head with all sorts of nonsense, tk. Your answer about the flooding to me is "non-thematic messages in Internet forums and chats" and "not at all." hi
                  1. RUSS
                    RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 45
                    -1
                    Quote: Dr. Bormental
                    Excuse me, RUSS, my message about a meat injection was sent to the respected Ami du peuple

                    You can write to him in a personal, why "air" clog?
                    Quote: Dr. Bormental
                    about meat injection

                    Are you a teenager or something?
                    Quote: Dr. Bormental
                    If you are not bothered, do not read my comments,

                    Why not read? There are quite "readable" ones.
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      2. Fregate
        Fregate 3 February 2016 20: 01
        10
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        My wife is addicted to the "battle of psychics" - I just can't ... turns out of this idiocy (both the wife and the presenters and psychics). I tolerate sad

        And you yourself become a psychic. Go to the TV set, put your hand to it and tell your wife: "I see bad things. I see the" Battle of the Senses "and I see the TV set flying out the window." laughing
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 20: 09
          -1
          No, it's better - "I see my wife flying out the window if she doesn't let me sit quietly" laughing
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 3 February 2016 20: 13
            +7
            Quote: Dr. Bormental
            No, it's better - "I see my wife flying out the window if she doesn't let me sit quietly" laughing

            ... Doctor ... hi ... you have an unstable psychosomatic state today .. emotional relapses? ... laughing
            1. Dr. Bormental
              Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 20: 44
              0
              the day was emotional, difficult fellow hi
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 3 February 2016 21: 06
                +5
                Quote: Dr. Bormental
                the day was emotional, difficult fellow hi

                ... so the Lord himself commanded ... then ... hi ... not for drunkenness, but for health for! ... drinks
                1. Dr. Bormental
                  Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 22: 36
                  +1
                  Perspicacious You, Little Devil fellow drinks
                  1. RUSS
                    RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 48
                    0
                    Quote: Dr. Bormental
                    Perspicacious You, Little Devil fellow drinks

                    Ivan Arnoldovich, you are drunk!
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              2. RUSS
                RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 47
                +1
                Quote: Dr. Bormental
                the day was emotional, difficult fellow hi

                Patients got it? There is such a thing as "human poisoning" this disorder sometimes suffers from doctors, teachers and sellers, in general, you need a vacation!
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    3. RUSS
      RUSS 3 February 2016 19: 59
      +8
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      Syria has not yet fallen .... "Vanga.

      The collapse of Turkey is quite possible, let's look at the national composition of Turkey, almost the entire east and south-east of Turkey is inhabited by Kurds, plus there are well-grounded claims of Armenia and Greece.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 3 February 2016 20: 07
        +3
        The Greeks almost defeated the Turks in the Greek-Turkish war of 1919-1922, occupying (or liberating) a third of Turkey, but unfortunately did not work out ....
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 3 February 2016 20: 09
          +7
          Quote: RUSS
          but unfortunately did not work out ....

          And according to plans, Greece was supposed to look like this in the XNUMXth century.
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 3 February 2016 20: 19
            19
            ... Armenians Kars and Ararat, the Black Sea coast of the Greeks, the Kurds, the Assyrians of Iskenderun as part of Syria ... us .. modestly straits and Tsar Grad .. hi
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 3 February 2016 20: 25
              +4
              Quote: Inok10
              .. To the Armenians Kars and Ararat, the Black Sea coast to the Greeks, the Kurds, the state, the Assyrians Iskenderun as part of Syria ... to us .. modestly straits and Tsar Grad ..

              Lesh, are you voicing the global plans for world reorganization again? As I understand it, you have species in any region of the planet. smile Joke. No offense, okay? hi
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 3 February 2016 20: 40
                +9
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Yosh, are you voicing the global plans for world reorganization again? As I understand it, you have species in any region of the planet. Joke. No offense, okay?

                ... what insults ?! .. Latin America - the Maldives, Argentina, let the British ......., and not part of Antarctica to them then, North America must be strait to them. JV Stalin and the Central American archipelago on the site of the mattress, the expansion of the English Channel at the expense of England (if they object to the Maldives), shipping is conveniently possible for more than 100 km. to expand, Ireland into one state, with Turkey decided, Poland onshore, within the borders of the Principality of Warsaw, Baldosov within the boundaries of cultural and ethnic reserves, the rest to us, so that it would be something to show the Japs .. Hokkaido to us ... it's so short .. laughing
                1. Paranoid50
                  Paranoid50 3 February 2016 21: 58
                  +5
                  Quote: Inok10
                  . Latin America - Maldives Argentina,

                  I apologize, but the Malvinas Islands, which the Britons call the Falklands. In the 82nd year, he worried for the Argentines from the heart, they fought as they could, with dignity ... Well, nothing, four years later Maradona avenged. hi
                  1. Inok10
                    Inok10 3 February 2016 22: 35
                    +3
                    Quote: Paranoid50
                    but the Malvinas Islands that the Britons call the Falklands

                    ... + .. accepted, a jamb ... it happens ... the post corrected ... well, sorry .. hi
                    1. Paranoid50
                      Paranoid50 3 February 2016 23: 03
                      +3
                      Yes, nonsense, it happens ... hi
                      1. RUSS
                        RUSS 3 February 2016 23: 07
                        0
                        Quote: Paranoid50
                        Yes, nonsense, it happens ... hi

                        George Bush Iraq confused with Iran laughing Slovenia with Slovakia, so the presidents also have Inok10.
            2. RUSS
              RUSS 3 February 2016 20: 33
              +3
              Quote: Inok10
              To the Armenians Kars and Ararat, the Black Sea coast, the Greeks, the Kurds, the state, the Assyrians Iskenderun as part of Syria ... we .. modestly straits and Tsar Grad ..

              I’ll add a little bit, the northern Cyprus occupied by the Turks to return to the Greek Cypriots.
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 3 February 2016 20: 38
                +5
                Quote: RUSS
                I’ll add a little bit, the northern Cyprus occupied by the Turks to return to the Greek Cypriots.

                ... everything is fixed there, look carefully ... hi ... there is no border .. Cyprus is Greek .. hi
                1. RUSS
                  RUSS 3 February 2016 20: 58
                  +2
                  Quote: Inok10
                  .. there is no border .. Cyprus is Greek ..

                  Well thank god I'm calm laughing
                  1. Throw
                    Throw 3 February 2016 22: 13
                    +3
                    And Antarctica under our protectorate to protect the penguins oppressed by the Australians, who in turn must free the illegally occupied lands of Free Australia!
                    wassat
                    1. RUSS
                      RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 17
                      +3
                      Quote: Lance
                      And Antarctica under our protectorate,

                      Definitely! since our Russian sailors discovered it, a captain of the 2nd rank F.F. Bellingshausen and Lieutenant M.P. Lazarev!
                      1. Throw
                        Throw 3 February 2016 23: 10
                        +2
                        That's it, and we are stupid with 1820 of the year! am
                2. Freeman
                  Freeman 3 February 2016 23: 36
                  0
                  "De Jure" and "De Facto" are different things. "De Jure" for the Republic of Cyprus (this is a sovereign state, not part of Greece) recognizes the entire territory of the island of Cyprus. The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is an unrecognized UN (with the exception of Turkey) state ...
                  So on many maps, Alas, and "Crimea is not ours"
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              2. Freeman
                Freeman 3 February 2016 23: 10
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                Do the Turkish Cypriots agree? According to the "generally accepted version" after the civil war broke out in Cyprus, the Turkish army simply outstripped the Greek army and occupied the part of the island inhabited by ethnic Turks.
                WIKI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_intrusion_ on_Kyr
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            3. Seal
              Seal 3 February 2016 23: 44
              0
              Ethnic map of the Balkan Peninsula, islands and the eastern part of Asia Minor as of 1898.
          2. Seal
            Seal 3 February 2016 23: 23
            +1
            And this is how Bulgaria looked after the first Balkan. And Bulgaria still believed that it had not yet joined all the Bulgarian lands. Soon the Second Balkan began.
          3. Seal
            Seal 3 February 2016 23: 24
            0
            The ethnic composition of the Balkan Peninsula as of 1898.
          4. Seal
            Seal 3 February 2016 23: 26
            0
            The territory of Bulgaria after the first Balkan. But Bulgaria believed that not all Bulgarian lands had become part of Bulgaria.
        2. Seal
          Seal 3 February 2016 23: 15
          +1
          Quote: RUSS
          but unfortunately did not work out ....
          Moreover, the Greeks did not work out with our help. Comrades Voroshilov and Frunze helped Ataturk fight for the liberation of Turkey from the troops of the Entente, which included Greece too. Well, of course, and our other military advisers, and maybe not only advisers, deliveries of our weapons, including aircraft.
      2. Spnsr
        Spnsr 3 February 2016 22: 44
        -1
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        Syria has not yet fallen .... "Vanga.

        The collapse of Turkey is quite possible, let's look at the national composition of Turkey, almost the entire east and south-east of Turkey is inhabited by Kurds, plus there are well-grounded claims of Armenia and Greece.


        Syria has fallen!
        Now many states do not have their own names, more precisely, they acquired all the names only in the 18th century, as did their acquisition of nationalities!

        Turkey will never be able to regain the greatness of the Ataman port, it was destroyed in a period of near unrest in Russia!
        in that era, it fell into the states of India, Persia and the Ottoman Empire itself, there was still no Pakistan, Afghanistan and others that are now!
        then these large ones, split into smaller ones! not without the participation of the Romanovs and Britain, Afghanistan appears, Pakistan torn from India, Iran.
        then they split up the Ottoman Empire and created the states that we see in the south and southeast of Europe. the reason was both external causes and domestic policies related to the radicalization of Islam and an attempt to bring the inhabitants of the empire to Islam! all the wars of Russia in that period, just this process, when the internal politics of the Ottoman Empire tried to oust those nations, because of which there were warriors in Russia ... with the Ottoman Empire beginning to collapse and Turkey's attempt to remain within the Ottoman Empire to tear off still common peoples by refusing them !!!

        Tamerlan could never go to war in Russia, he was the emir (military commander) of the descendants of Augustus (Ivan the Terrible didn’t just talk about it in such a way as to deny him that he was appointed crazy)
        Tamerlan could carry out the task of restoring order, and having completed it, he went back to the place where he was appointed to restore order as well, due to the decomposition of society in those parts, during this period the conquest of the Promised Land, the emergence of the Blue Horde (the meaning of the word horde is still it remains in German - the noun die Ordnung - order, putting in order, ordering, systematization, system, device), it is also called the Ataman port, the conquest spilling out onto the White Horde (the fragment of which we see in Belarus, as it was closer now to Russia territorially and mentally) everything else, like Ukraine now, went through Russophobia ...
        so about Turkey, the Turks did not have a nationality until the 19th century, but with the fragmentation of the Ottoman Empire intensifying, there was an attempt to unite the remnants of the Ataman port, large and remote from Constantinople, pieces of which were already at that time already beginning to scatter in different directions. split off!
        an attempt to ousting and resulted in all those genocides of the Bulgarians, Armenians, Kurds, who did not want to die and could not force themselves to fight, became a Turk !!!
        we see a real example of such events in Ukraine ...
      3. Seal
        Seal 3 February 2016 23: 49
        0
        The Trojans probably also have complaints. And to the Greeks as well :)
        By the way, I wonder why "Homer" or "Saint-Omer", when listing the peoples who participated in the Greco-Trojan War (to hell with it, it’s mythical), did not mention the Armenians? After all, he even mentioned the Ethiopians! Is it because there were no Armenians on the Asia Minor Peninsula yet?
        But the term "Hurrians" (one of the most ancient tribes that inhabited the present Armenian Highlands and all the surrounding lands), as it is very suspiciously reminiscent of the expression "Kurds".
    4. _Alexei_
      _Alexei_ 3 February 2016 22: 40
      0
      and as she said / the winner will be wrong /
  3. jovanni
    jovanni 3 February 2016 19: 43
    -4
    Palmistry, or cheromania, rather just x ... some kind of ...
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 19: 50
      14
      Anecdote in the topic - The nuns found a prezik ... they don't know what it is. They wondered, wondered ... decided to go to the priest to explain. They come to him, and he says - "This, my sisters, is a heromancy" repeat
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  4. kg pv
    kg pv 3 February 2016 19: 46
    +1
    REALLY BLOCKED with all sorts of predictions! In this case, stupidly customized to the facts.
  5. AlexTires
    AlexTires 3 February 2016 19: 47
    +5
    In ancient times, no self-respecting commander dared to step forward before the soothsaying fortune-tellers, fortunetellers or magicians surrounding him promised the favor of heaven. The brightest example from our history is Tamerlane’s campaign on Rus


    Why did this squeeze of the predictions on the VO turn out to be? I have nothing against it, but what is the point of all this?
    1. Sober
      Sober 3 February 2016 21: 25
      +1
      Quote: AlexTires
      Why did this squeeze of predictions on VO turn out to be?

      I do not understand too.
  6. Stinger
    Stinger 3 February 2016 19: 52
    +6
    There is no need to stoop to the "prophecies" on this site. Let Prokopenko try on REW TV.
  7. hartlend
    hartlend 3 February 2016 19: 52
    +4
    The entire Internet is littered with predictions of all stripes. You can always say - but I told them!
  8. activator
    activator 3 February 2016 19: 53
    14
    The article is interesting, let’s wait and see in the predictions I believe in mysticism in life, I had to deal with it repeatedly and completely stopped believing in coincidences.
  9. RUSS
    RUSS 3 February 2016 19: 54
    +9
    Let us recall the contemporaries of Messing and Edgor Casey, they predicted a lot and very accurately, there are facts proving this.
    1. Seal
      Seal 3 February 2016 23: 31
      +1
      Recall Messing's contemporaries

      So much has been said about Messing. But, as the old Chekists note, there is not a word of truth in the film about "The Great Foreteller Messing", with the exception of purely everyday details.
  10. carabiner sks
    carabiner sks 3 February 2016 19: 56
    +5
    Why in general is this article here? That's it, men: we pour coffee, lay out cards, smoke grass, fall into a trance ... And here it is, the future!
    1. Seal
      Seal 3 February 2016 23: 31
      +1
      On beans it is more correct !!!
  11. hly
    hly 3 February 2016 19: 59
    12
    I was interested, thanks.
  12. old pioneer
    old pioneer 3 February 2016 20: 03
    +2
    Erdogan is not Tamerlan, he is shorter than hepatotenuses, Zhi-shi is written with the letter and, as well as many other revelations that will shock you. Read on VO2016 !!!!
    1. Yarik
      Yarik 3 February 2016 20: 05
      +1
      To a point, amused. winkBut in general, of course, not even Timur. He wouldn’t have hurt his arrow, but directly into the lobeshnik.
  13. Flat5160
    Flat5160 3 February 2016 20: 08
    -3
    Predictions are not predictions, but Erdogan behaves in such a way that soon not only we, but also his NATO allies will take his policy harshly, and even then they will merge him from the bloc (if unforeseen and uncoordinated actions continue). Here it is clear to anyone, so the "soothsayers" have crawled out of all the cracks to predict the obvious.
  14. kg pv
    kg pv 3 February 2016 20: 12
    +3
    Quote: old pioneer
    Erdogan is not Tamerlan, he is shorter than hepatotenuses, Zhi-shi is written with the letter and, as well as many other revelations that will shock you. Read on VO2016 !!!!

    A lot to you +++ good
    And they forgot the main topic, what Mr. f35!
  15. sabakina
    sabakina 3 February 2016 20: 14
    +8
    Comrades, why do you dislike the article? Maybe then we recall what I. Stalin did when the German stood at the gates of Moscow? What? Forgot?
    Seeing and further events, even the collapse of the USSR, the holy elder kept a firm faith in the Fatherland. At the end of his conversations, he certainly reminded: "The Lord will have mercy on Russia and lead it through suffering to great glory."

    To be honest, I really want to live up to this time and enjoy the eyes of happy children, adults who don’t have to rack their brains, where to get money tomorrow, a communal apartment, education ... Well, you yourself should live at least a year, and then ... ...
    1. Seal
      Seal 3 February 2016 23: 37
      +2
      Maybe then we recall what I. Stalin did when the German stood at the gates of Moscow? What? Forgot?

      No, they have not forgotten. First, I.V. Stalin removed a number of divisions from the Far East and transferred them to Moscow. While the Far Eastern divisions were grinding the Germans - the Headquarters (I. Stalin) managed to prepare more reserves. As a result of the timely approach of our reserves, when the Germans had exhausted all reserves, our troops went on the counterattack on December 5, 1941.
      And what, do you have a different version?
  16. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 20: 15
    +1
    Who heard Timur and Cupid there today? laughing
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 3 February 2016 20: 22
      +3
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Who heard Timur and Cupid there today? laughing

      Today? So they sort of got them in different cameras?
    2. poquello
      poquello 3 February 2016 20: 57
      +3
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Who heard Timur and Cupid there today? laughing

      They want to give Timur a goat, it’s dangerous to pester a tiger.
    3. Sober
      Sober 3 February 2016 21: 27
      +2
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Who heard Timur and Cupid there today?

      Parted. The band decided to get married.
  17. pogranicnik
    pogranicnik 3 February 2016 20: 16
    +4
    there is nothing more to write !!! ???
  18. aba
    aba 3 February 2016 20: 18
    +4
    One can deny, one can accept, one can doubt ... But in life there are always events that cannot be explained from a scientific point of view. But this is not a reason to deny these facts.
    Is the appeal to the beyond what is appropriate here ?! Who knows ... This is good for the believer - he can always refer to faith and God.
    So ............. Time will tell.
  19. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 3 February 2016 20: 19
    +6
    Well, what’s wrong? If the predictors flogged nonsense and their prophecies didn’t come true, then they have already forgotten about these predictors! And so you have brought facts from our past, and how your story relates, your right. otherwise there will be no future for you.
  20. kg pv
    kg pv 3 February 2016 20: 22
    -1
    Quote: sabakina
    Comrades, why do you dislike the article? Maybe then we recall what I. Stalin did when the German stood at the gates of Moscow? What? Forgot?
    Seeing and further events, even the collapse of the USSR, the holy elder kept a firm faith in the Fatherland. At the end of his conversations, he certainly reminded: "The Lord will have mercy on Russia and lead it through suffering to great glory."

    To be honest, I really want to live up to this time and enjoy the eyes of happy children, adults who don’t have to rack their brains, where to get money tomorrow, a communal apartment, education ... Well, you yourself should live at least a year, and then ... ...

    I'm afraid to upset you, but absolute happiness for everyone is only in fairy tales! But in reality this is not even in what thread of well-fed Switzerland.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 3 February 2016 20: 29
      +2
      Dear kg pv! Did I write something about absolute happiness? And I lived in a fairy tale! It was a long time ago. Even then I was surprised: "Why is our refrigerator" full "with food, if the store has empty shelves?
      P.S. He took the word full in quotation marks, for the products fought for their place on the shelf.
      True, it was shitty with condensed milk ... recourse
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 3 February 2016 20: 56
        +4
        Well, the people have adapted! Well, the audience is spinning! They eat something that is not on the menu. They wear what is not in stores. They treat you with something you don’t get. They say what they have not heard about. They read what they have not written yet. They get 120 - they spend 250. Citizens steal - the country gets richer. They will not help out in a fight - they will win in the war.
        © M. Zhvanetsky

        Such are the paradoxes of the USSRlaughing
    2. Sober
      Sober 3 February 2016 21: 29
      0
      Quote: kg pv
      absolute happiness for everyone is only in fairy tales! But in reality this is not even in what thread of well-fed Switzerland.

      That's for sure. And will not be.
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  22. cheap trick
    cheap trick 3 February 2016 20: 29
    0
    The drunken captain of the NATO air police mission was detained in Siauliai (18) ru.DELFI.lt Sunday, January 31, 2016 12:58 on January 30, at 5.27 a.m., in Siauliai, on ul. Vytauto, a VW Golf car stopped by a drunk man was stopped. © Scanpix The driver’s blood was 1,75 ppm. It turned out that this is the captain of the air police mission in the Baltic countries, a US citizen born in 1984 In early January, the Spanish military on four Eurofighter Typhoon fighters arrived to replace the Hungarian contingent in Zoknyay. In total, the Spanish contingent has 130 military personnel — pilots, technicians, medical staff, a support group, communications, and specialists in other fields. However, along with the Spaniards, representatives of other NATO countries also participate in the mission.

    Read more: http://en.delfi.lt/news/crime/v-shyaulyaj-zaderzhan-pyanyj-kapitan-missii-vozdus
    hnoj-policii-nato.d? id = 70269742
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 February 2016 21: 42
      +3
      Quote: cheap trick
      To Šiauliai

      My father served in the 60s in Siauliai (Lithuanian SSR), told that periodically there were attacks on guards with the aim of seizing weapons in the newspapers, of course, not a word, not all the "forest brothers" were caught, and now the elderly are still marching in Vilnius ...
  23. cayman gene
    cayman gene 3 February 2016 20: 52
    +6
    the tramp does not pull on Tamerlane, it’s Adam Kozlevich, the owner of the car, Loren-Dietrich (Antelope-Gnu) and a history of a recidivist thief.
  24. 3vs
    3vs 3 February 2016 20: 56
    +9
    “When the Russians descend into the straits (the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles), then other European states will say: should we go there too? The West will require Russia to withdraw its troops. She refuses, and then they begin to gather strength against her. The world war will begin, and the Russians will have losses. We will observe the massacre, the cities will become slums. ” “The Russians will want to enter the Mediterranean Sea. It will be a "spring" ...

    In my opinion, this is a gag!
    Here is an excerpt from the words of Paisius:

    But the most interesting predictions of the elders of our contemporaries. The elder Paisiy Svyatorets (Esnepidis, 1924-1994), at the beginning of the 90's, predicted the war of Russia with Turkey: “God will arrange. In this war, everyone will come out victorious. The Greek army will be a spectator. No one will return the winner. Palestine will be the arena, their grave is the Dead Sea. This will be the first half-time. But there will be a second half-time: after these events, a person will become hopeless, and then everyone will study the Gospel and the Scriptures. Christ will have pity on the world and show a sign for faith. Then look for the unbeliever ...
    Thought tells me that many events will happen: the Russians will occupy Turkey, Turkey will disappear from the map, because a third of the Turks will become Christians, a third will die in the war and a third will go to Mesopotamia.
    The Middle East will become the scene of wars in which Russians will take part. A lot of blood will be shed, the Chinese will cross the Euphrates River, having an army of two hundred million, and reach Jerusalem. A characteristic sign that these events are approaching will be the destruction of the Omar mosque, as its destruction will mean the beginning of the reconstruction of the temple of Solomon by the Jews, which was built on this site.
    In Constantinople there will be a great war between Russians and Europeans, and a lot of blood will be shed. Greece will not play a leading role in this war, but Constantinople will be given to it. Not because the Russians will revere the Greeks, but because they will not be able to find a better solution ... The Greek army will not have time to go there, as the city will be given to it.
    Jews, because they will have the strength and help of the European leadership, become impudent and behave with shamelessness and pride, and try to rule Europe .... They will build many intrigues, but through the persecution that ensues, Christianity will unite completely. However, it will not unite in the way those who want to organize a worldwide “unification of churches,” wanting to have one religious leadership at the head, want to unite. Christians will unite because in this situation, the separation of the sheep from the goats will occur. Then "a single herd and one Shepherd will be realized in practice ... I was told that the Chinese army at the moment is two hundred million, that is, the specific number that St. John writes about in Revelation. When you hear that the Turks block the waters of the Euphrates at the head of the dam and use them for irrigation, then know that we have already entered into the preparation of the great war, and in this way the way is prepared for the two hundred millionth army from sunrises, as Revelation says. ”
    1. Seal
      Seal 4 February 2016 07: 44
      0
      its destruction will mean the beginning of work on the reconstruction of the temple of Solomon by the Jews, which was built on this site.

      The fact that somewhere in the area of ​​present-day Jerusalem there was "the very" temple of Solomon has not been proven by anyone. Israeli archaeologists admit that nothing has been found to visually confirm the biblical stories in the lands of present-day Israel and nearby.
      And the fact that the Jews believe that the wall at which they pray (Wailing Wall) is the surviving part of the fence of either the very temple, or the walls surrounding the part of the city where the temple was located, is a matter of their faith. In fact, the wailing wall may well be the wall of a medieval building. How old is this wall - science does not know. And it is not yet able to find out by modern scientific methods.
  25. viktor561
    viktor561 3 February 2016 21: 09
    +3
    It's time to remove Turkey from Europe - a piece was not legally seized
    1. Seal
      Seal 4 February 2016 07: 48
      +1
      And who and what was captured legally? Hungarians legally captured Pannonia? Franks legally captured Gaul? Did the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes legitimately take over Britain?
  26. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 3 February 2016 21: 13
    +7
    There are many legends with Tamerlan, or rather, with his tomb. According to one, there was a prediction that if Tamerlane's ashes were disturbed, a great and terrible war would begin, but there was no doubt about this. His tomb was opened in June 1941 of the year. yes******************* An article from the newspaper Izvestia 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 February 2016 21: 26
      +4
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      There are many legends with Tamerlan, or rather, with his tomb. But there is no doubt about one fact. His tomb was opened in June 1941.

      June 21, 1941, on the eve of the war, Soviet archaeologists alarmed the ashes of the great Tamerlane. Immediately after this, three gray-haired old men appeared at the excavation site. They warned scientists that excavations should be stopped. Otherwise, the war will begin. Archaeologists immediately reported this to members of the government commission, but they were only laughed at. Excavations continued, and the Great Patriotic War began the next day.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 3 February 2016 22: 23
        +2
        So soon everything was returned to its place. Several years ago, a documentary about the tomb of Tamerlane and all the events connected with it in one way or another was shown on one of the central channels. A series of coincidences? Not a fact ... "So SOMEONE THERE knows ..." (c)
        1. poquello
          poquello 3 February 2016 22: 40
          +2
          Quote: Paranoid50
          So soon everything was returned to its place. Several years ago, a documentary about the tomb of Tamerlane and all the events connected with it in one way or another was shown on one of the central channels. A series of coincidences? Not a fact ... "So SOMEONE THERE knows ..." (c)

          and someone is painting the radish underground
    2. poquello
      poquello 3 February 2016 22: 17
      +2
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      There are many legends with Tamerlan, or rather, with his tomb. According to one, there was a prediction that if Tamerlane's ashes were disturbed, a great and terrible war would begin, but there was no doubt about this. His tomb was opened in June 1941 of the year. yes******************* An article from the newspaper Izvestia 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX

      and what would hurt? it is 21.06.41/XNUMX/XNUMX. and the Wehrmacht, not Annushka with oil
    3. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 3 February 2016 23: 08
      0
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      There are many legends with Tamerlan, or rather, with his tomb. According to one, there was a prediction that if Tamerlane's ashes were disturbed, a great and terrible war would begin, but there was no doubt about this. His tomb was opened in June 1941 of the year.

      This is not an undeniable fact. Hitler, for reasons not very clear, postponed the attack on the USSR several times. And the end date turned out to be June 22 of 1941, as if someone had put that date in his head, why didn’t he choose for example June 20, a round number that is well remembered. In the tomb of Tamerlane there was a prediction that if anyone disturbed the dust, there would be terrible misfortunes. And it was in the evening of 21 on June 1941 that the tomb was opened by Soviet scientists. Hitler attacked immediately at 4 in the morning of 22 on June 1941.
      To this it must be added that one of the researchers wrote about this prediction to Zhukov and he came to Stalin to receive precisely on this issue. The ashes of Tamerlane were returned back to the grave of November 20 1942, during these days there was a turning point in the Battle of Stalingrad and February 2 ended in a grand victory over the Nazi troops.
      After this victory, the outcome of the war was a foregone conclusion.
    4. Seal
      Seal 3 February 2016 23: 39
      +1
      Such predictions exist in relation to 9 out of 10 graves of famous personalities.
      1. poquello
        poquello 4 February 2016 00: 34
        -1
        Quote: Seal
        Such predictions exist in relation to 9 out of 10 graves of famous personalities.

        Well, with the first part, everything is clear - Hitler could well wait for Soviet archaeologists, and the second claims to be a miracle or a wonderful coincidence
        1. Seal
          Seal 4 February 2016 07: 31
          -1
          the second fully claims to be a miracle or miraculous coincidence

          Theory of large numbers. If there are several thousand, or even tens of thousands of burials on earth for which such predictions exist, then it is not surprising that for example (perhaps an abstract example), planes crashed into the tower of New York the day after the American Archeologists somewhere in the jungle of Brazil stepped on a skull in the burial place of some important Indian of the 15th century.

          In addition, as documented, there was no particular prediction about the tomb of Tamerlane. There were old people who came to Moscow archaeologists asking them not to touch the shrine. They showed some kind of Arabic book, which had nothing to do with either the burial or Tamerlane. But on her page an alleged prediction of war was written long ago in ink. But when the inscription was actually made - 100 years ago or a week ago or even yesterday - it is not known. It could well be the tricks of a local mullah or a scientist who was not allowed to excavate, urging the elderly to go talk the Muscovites away. And since the theme of the war was in the air, the registry was about the beginning of the war, and not, for example, about the beginning of the plague.
          Let us ask ourselves a simple question, from whom should the "prediction" come? Probably it should have been announced by Tamerlane himself, who, before his death, had to declare something like: "If some reptile disturbed my burial, my spirit will start a great war." But in the history of such sayings of Tamerlane himself are not recorded. And he died quite suddenly, without having time to give any instructions on how to live after him.
    5. de_monSher
      de_monSher 4 February 2016 09: 26
      0
      There are many legends with Tamerlan, or rather, with his tomb. According to one, there was a prediction that if Tamerlane's ashes were disturbed, a great and terrible war would begin.


      No need to believe everything, honestly. An adult, like, a man ... *) I was very familiar with the deceased Malik Kayumovich Kayumov. He’s a great person, he’s just golden, no words, a front-line operator — he went through the whole war, from and to. Bow to him for that. But like any filmmaker, he loved to embellish reality. That's exactly the same Malik Kayumovich is at the origins of this very fable, about the tomb of Timur ... *)
  27. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 3 February 2016 21: 18
    +2
    Don't read it, gentlemen. Say "Phi" to another page.
    By the way, Erdogan is certainly not Timur, he is rather Sultan Bayazid Lightning-fast and the characters are similar. True, he finished badly. I am not opposed to Erdogan ending up like that.
  28. _umka_
    _umka_ 3 February 2016 21: 26
    +3
    Whatever it was, but the elders see the future of Russia and it is very pleasing.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 February 2016 21: 30
      +1
      Quote: _umka_
      Whatever it was, but the elders see the future of Russia and it is very pleasing.

      I wonder if there are Turkish elders and what do they think about the future of Turkey?
  29. Indifferent
    Indifferent 3 February 2016 21: 36
    +3
    I do not want to boast, but in 1988 they gave me a big book for one night, which described the predictions of our civilization for 3000 years in advance.
    They gave her all for the night. Physically do not re-read, and even in small text.
    I didn’t care what would happen in more than a hundred years. I won’t survive so much. Therefore, I tried to capture and remember this time, and everything else just ran through my eyes. To know civilization will die or not.
    The book described the crisis and collapse of the USSR (to be honest, I did not believe it then). The following described minor wars in different places of the earth. I did not remember them. I don’t want to lie now. But then the information just hit me. It was written that a war would begin in the Muslim world. Great war comparable to world war. And then it was said that Ukraine will suffer greatly. In fact, nothing will remain of it as a state. I could not understand then. Can the USSR not be able to defend Ukraine? And so and so I imagined why Ukraine would suffer. It didn’t work out in any way. I thought the war in the Muslim world would somehow spread there. But I could not imagine how. And then it was described there that a war would begin between Europe and Muslims. After which Europe will greatly weaken. But I was interested in Russia. Everything was written there in detail. But then I did not believe anything and read laughing (I considered all this frivolous). It was further written there that Russia would take part in the war, but would not suffer much. And it will come out of the war much stronger.
    So there is such a book. It seems like the aliens gave the chosen ones. I was given to me for the evening. Now I understand very well that in that book most of the next predictions came true. There was nothing about serious natural disasters with the flooding of the continents. On the contrary. The technogenic development of civilization will continue in the future.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 February 2016 21: 50
      +2
      Quote: indifferent
      I do not want to boast, but in 1988 they gave me a big book for one night, which described the predictions of our civilization for 3000 years in advance.

      Interested in this line.
      Quote: indifferent
      So there is such a book. It seems like the aliens gave the chosen ones.

      But after reading this, I regretted the time for reading your comments, in general they started well, but the ending killed laughing
      Quote: indifferent
      . The technogenic development of civilization will continue in the future.

      Admit it, you just came up with it just now. wassat
  30. bad
    bad 3 February 2016 21: 43
    +2
    predictions are ungrateful business .. therefore I found it on the head of the day .. migrants "refugees" who come to Russia are piled up for the most do not spoil if they begin to behave like in gayrope .. laughing here is a reference to the source .. Migrants in Murmansk stuck with a Russian girl, now 18 of them are in the hospital, 33 in a special detention center
    http://www.newsli.ru/news/russia/obschestvo/20281
  31. RomanS
    RomanS 3 February 2016 21: 47
    +3
    Everyone sees the WORLD as it believes. And each of us is different. And if we are all sure that Russia will win, then so be it. Each of us will exert his efforts for this. Without faith, we will mess around. Someone believes in God, someone in science, someone in himself. Therefore, let them predict positive, neurolinguistic programming has not been canceled.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 3 February 2016 23: 46
      0
      Therefore, let them predict positive, neurolinguistic programming has not been canceled.

      Vooot! And it doesn't matter what "department" they are passing through. laughing
  32. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 3 February 2016 21: 55
    +1
    I can’t laugh, a good joke for the evening. Can patch up a separate section on VO - the prediction of the elders and wangs. I remembered how in the film Vasily Ivanovich the elevator opens - that’s what the life-giving cross does
    1. Seal
      Seal 3 February 2016 23: 41
      +2
      Vasily
      Chapaev?
  33. shtatsov
    shtatsov 3 February 2016 22: 02
    +2
    Do you see a gopher?
    -No-
    And I do not see him! And he is!
    From the movie DMB
  34. Stoler
    Stoler 3 February 2016 22: 13
    +3
    When "dividing" the main channel in time to take under protection for the "safety of world shipping" laughing
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 19
      0
      Quote: Stoler
      When "dividing" the main channel in time to take under protection for the "safety of world shipping" laughing

      The second time we will not miss, although no ... already it turns out the third.
  35. Freeman
    Freeman 3 February 2016 22: 47
    +1
    What is the article about?
    The most famous ascetics who possessed the gift of perspicacity and revered by the Orthodox Church include Seraphim of Sarov, who, being in the Mordovian forests, knew about what was going on in the capital and other places, predicting, for example, an uprising on Senate Square. Having died in 1833, he predicted the unsuccessful Crimean War, revolution, and the death of the dynasty.

    We all will die?
    Ahh - her ...
    Seeing and further events, even the collapse of the USSR, the holy elder kept a firm faith in the Fatherland. At the end of his conversations, he certainly reminded: "The Lord will have mercy on Russia and lead it through suffering to great glory."

    that is, "be patient and you will find" / paraphrasing Scripture /, or rather - "People be patient, otherwise we have not yet packed all our suitcases" lol

    Next:
    Many revered elders, our contemporaries: Seraphim Tyapochkin and Christopher of Tula, blessed Nikolai Trubin, spoke about the restoration of a strong Russia in alliance with the fraternal Slavic peoples led by the single king. And, of course, Jerome Sanaksarsky and Nikolai Guryanov.


    It turns out there will be no next presidential election - will there be a Coronation? Are they starting to cook for that ?!

    Okay, if they don't know about Seraphim of Sarov, then at least they've heard. But who are "Serafim Tyapochkin" and the rest of the "Vangovatels"? It looks like a "near-political divorce".

    And the enchanting ending:
    "The Turks will be destroyed"


    "- This is live ... - not without reason" - Even Solovyov in one of the recent broadcasts of "Vesti-fm" "broke" for some reason and said "that the country is on the eve of war." And he has some information.

    And "Article" is a MINUS.
  36. Yugra
    Yugra 3 February 2016 22: 47
    -3
    The great commander Tamerlane and the Turkish rat ...
    1. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 4 February 2016 05: 00
      0
      About birds, kebab is their Turkic word.
  37. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 3 February 2016 23: 19
    0
    Everything is canceled. Vanga said "when Syria falls," but Syria is not going to fall anywhere, but quite the opposite. So the scenario will be different, most likely. But if a mess begins, the first thing to do is to kill the English girls and the Americans at the same time, so that these geeks don't have the slightest chance to sit out in a puddle. And then these nits will continue to set new ones on us every 50-100 years.
  38. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 3 February 2016 23: 31
    +2
    To everyone who does not believe in these predictions about a future war with Turkey, but has a draft age for military operations, I recommend, before it is too late, to start doing physical training, if there is an opportunity to engage in hand-to-hand combat and generally lead a healthy lifestyle. Believe me, it will come in handy in the trenches and in the attack, especially since the successful destruction of the enemy raises the morale of both yours and the rest of the soldiers. War is a very hard "work" for wear and tear, you hardly had to carry so many weights on yourself and so many trenches to be dug at full height, while this is a very dirty work and requires breaking of instinctive cowardice. It is necessary to step towards bullets and shells, when the blast wave literally breaks your body and your consciousness becomes clouded. To see how the bodies of your comrades are covered in blood, torn to pieces, moreover, you are in their blood. For those who have not seen this yet, strengthen your Spirit and pray. For unbelievers there is a very short prayer: "Lord, save and preserve!"
  39. hobot
    hobot 4 February 2016 00: 32
    0
    Predict Do not Predict, Believe - Do Not Believe. Chamomile is shorter.
    Situevina is such that everything is going to aggravate the conflict.
    A couple more provocations and porridge will brew, because the sphere of interests forces to action.
    And here it is clear to anyone - from which country there will probably be nothing left?
    And then, as the karsts fall, will everyone harness themselves? or take turns? And the Chinese will wait.,
    I wonder - without the presence of a sign of prophecy in myself.
  40. de_monSher
    de_monSher 4 February 2016 02: 17
    0
    Erdogan is not Tamerlan


    It’s even insulting to compare the jackal with Leo. Who it Erdogan, and who - Amir Timur. To the Ottomans, Bayezid Lightning fast with comrades, he in due time he hung a lyuley, according to the most unbearable, so the Turks hiccuped for a very long time after that. So ... so - not only is the article not the topic, but also not in the suit, in fact, right from the heading ... *)
  41. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 4 February 2016 04: 37
    0
    Quote: 3vs
    The Middle East will become the scene of wars in which Russians will take part. A lot of blood will be shed, the Chinese will cross the Euphrates River, having an army of two hundred million, and will reach Jerusalem.

    Two hundred million army is certainly cool.
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 4 February 2016 08: 35
      +1
      Quote: Nikolay71
      Quote: 3vs
      The Middle East will become the scene of wars in which Russians will take part. A lot of blood will be shed, the Chinese will cross the Euphrates River, having an army of two hundred million, and will reach Jerusalem.

      Two hundred million army is certainly cool.

      The Chinese will come in dashes, in small groups of 2 million laughing
  42. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 February 2016 05: 51
    +1
    And on coffee grounds or chicken bones, no one guesses here?
    Who knows the truth about Tamerlane? If they tell me about historical documents, then according to them the banderlogs dug up the Black Sea. Of course I will exaggerate, but talk to the young dill, they will weave you with three boxes and all the forest. Who will leave the unpleasant moments of their history to descendants. Everyone will try to hide the unattractive facts, and try to decorate the past reality.
    We are now observing this every day, as the media distort what is actually happening. For example, how the same French howled after watching a film about Bandera Maidan, two years passed, and they did not know anything. This is with the current possibility of information support, and what to take from the time that they said in words, the chronicler wrote, and if you lied .....?
  43. Koshak
    Koshak 4 February 2016 06: 08
    +1
    "- Prediction? Well, what was there in particular?
    - Everything is traditional - battles, blood, death and so on await us, according to the complete list of templates. For our squad, I myself can predict this, and every day ... "

    A. Belyanin.
  44. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 4 February 2016 17: 10
    0
    In fact, at the very beginning of November there was another prophecy (or "prophecy") from Father Paisius. According to various sources, Fr. Paisius appeared to one of the Cypriot elders (to whom it is not indicated, from which specific monastery - is also not indicated), and said that the Lord gives the world 40 days (expired 06.01.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX), after which the war would begin.
    Draw your own conclusions. I don’t want to say anything. everything is too relative.