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The difference of national mentalities: cultural and mythological section on some examples

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Mal bug, yes smelly.
Russian folk.
Small factor, yes indicative.
Scientific folk.


There is such a very significant part of that phenomenon, which is called “national cultural characteristics” - myths. If in a nutshell, the myths are such "building blocks" of myths, if you like, some analogs of the Jungian archetypes that help an individual to build his worldviews. Mythologemes usually include an objective side (i.e., some object of the mythology are most often the same archetype) and an appraisal side (i.e., some attributes of these objects are most often moral and ethical: “object A is good, object B is badly"). The myths themselves are undoubtedly the main component of the culture; it is from myths that cultural phenomena are forged. In a broad sense, a myth is a kind of integral set of ideas about something, while the myth is not necessarily entirely and entirely an invention (rather, the object has its own correspondence in objective reality, and the entourage can also be an invention).

It should be noted that the national culture is not limited to the TRADITIONAL component, which is commonly understood as “ancient traditions of deep” in the form of oral folk art and classical culture in the form of various works of art that make up the cultural heritage of the nation. In addition to the above, the national culture also includes mass culture, or the so-called pop culture, to the classics, which is somewhat distant. At the same time, if classical culture is in some way immovable and unchanged (that’s it’s a classic, to be guided as something permanent), then pop culture, on the contrary, is in constant development (for example, one “singer’s mouth” is popular today, and tomorrow is another; who remembers now some “Affectionate May”, which had an incredible success at the end of 80?)

There are individual characters in folk art who have moved from there to modern pop culture. I have in mind that part of pop culture for which the elements of folk art, namely, the fantasy genre and genres that have joined it, are the breeding ground. And by individual characters I mean within the framework of this material two categories of inhabitants of folklore (and not only) works - vampires and werewolves.

Here it is necessary to make a small remake. Unlike patients of medical institutions with walls painted in yellow, adequate people understand the difference between the existence of an object in objective reality and the existence of an object of the same name in a mythical reality. So, in objective reality, the existence of vampires and werewolves, to put it mildly, is not confirmed from the word "no way". But in reality, the mythical and those and others - quite legitimate inhabitants. Therefore, speaking of the existence of these categories of citizens (vampires and werewolves), we mean the mythical reality.

Let us consider these creatures in more detail, in order to go on to the analysis of differences in myths.

The vampire is, in essence, undead. That is an inanimate being; A "returnee" from the kingdom of death. According to folk lore, a vampire is a man who once lived, who died for some (usually not very pleasant) reasons, and then returned to drink the blood of the living. The first legends about vampires appeared in Sumer (“Lila”), vampires are mentioned by the Greeks and Romans (“lamia”), later - by the Turks, Slavs and Germans. The name “vampire” is a Turkic root, their vampires were called “ubur”, from where this word was transferred to the Slavic languages ​​(“ghoul”), and already from us - to the Germans (“vampire”). It is important that, in any case and in any mythological tradition, the vampire is the revived dead, coming from "there", dangerous to the living.

Unlike a vampire, a werewolf is at least a magical creature, but still alive. In fact, a werewolf is a person (magician) who knows how to change the face, turning into a beast. As in the case of vampires, werewolf is found in almost all nations: from the Sumerian Enkidu (who “had no other clothes than the animal skin covering his body” and was “fierce like a predator”) to Japanese kitsune - werewolf-foxes, according to legend, there are only female. The most famous European werewolves are the German “werewolves”. In any case, a werewolf is something living that can turn into a beast.

So, to the question of cultural differences at the level of mythologem.
How werewolves and vampires perceived in different cultures?

You will still laugh, but in most cultures, werewolves were perceived positively. They say about Japanese kitsune that they bring good luck to those who managed to catch and tame kitsune. In the Slavic tradition, werewolf is considered a positive phenomenon: the most ancient epic hero, Volkh Vseslavich, is a full-fledged werewolf: helping his squad, he periodically throws himself into a bear, a falcon, a wolf and even an ant (in a situation where it was imperceptible to penetrate the besieged city). The qualities of a werewolf are attributed and quite historical characters: Prince Igor, escaping from Polovtsian captivity, spread to the wolf. The Scandinavian berserkers, Ulfendars and pig-fielding considered themselves to be werewolves, representing themselves in a state of combat trance as bears, wolves and wild boars, respectively. Romulus and Remus, fed by a she-wolf, gave rise to a rumor that all patricians to one degree or another were werewolves.

It is clear that the roots of this mythology (a positive attitude towards working together) lie in totemism - a phenomenon in which representatives of a certain tribe believed that their tribe has its patron in the person of a certain animal. Sometimes it was thought that not just a patron, but even an ancestor - such an anticipation of the theory of evolution thousands of years before its appearance. From here, by the way, the “Russian bear” mythology grows.

But the vampires in almost all traditional cultures - the characters are negative, do not carry anything good to people. The vampire does not lie quietly in the grave, and he violates the natural (i.e., established by gods / god) course of things, returning "from there" and annoying the living. There are practically no examples of “positive” killings in classical oral folklore.

And now we will consider some aspects of modern mass culture, first of all, cinema and literature. What myths about vampires and werewolves exist now?

The main producer of film production in modern times is, as is known, the US film company. Correct, if I am mistaken, but in almost all modern films (and pink snot called Twilight is the best example) vampires act as positive or pseudo-positive characters, and werewolves as certain uncontrollable monsters, unequivocal evil for humanity. Vampires in these works appear to be a contractual force that coexists with humanity, and werewolves as an element of a natural principle opposing civilization.

Approximately the same approach is characteristic of the English modern pop literature, in particular, for D. Rowling. She, however, lacks vampires, but werewolves have two whole varieties: the classic werewolf is called “animag”, and the “werewolf” itself is called a creature that does not control itself in a “bestial” image.

In general, the modern mass (read American / British) pop culture is characterized by “turning inside out” the traditional mythology about those groups of creatures that are covered in our material. It should be noted that these fairy-tale characters are only an illustrative group, only a marker of the general background of cultural changes introduced by Western pop culture.

And now let us remember L. Gumilev and the theory of anti-systemism, and everything will fall into place.
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  1. Putinets
    Putinets 4 February 2016 09: 33
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    Culture is a reflection of the norms of morality and ethics, not only of society, but also of each individual. Hence the conclusion - what kind of Zho @@ p culture, such are its carriers and vice versa what carriers, such is the culture. Let's compare a sponge in pants or a talking g @ but also urine in children's programs in Sweden and our "Masha and the Bear"
    1. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 4 February 2016 09: 39
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      Quote: Putin
      Hence the conclusion, what Jo @@ n culture, such and its carriers
      -— Blondes demand to ban jokes about stupidity of blondes. Americans demand to ban jokes about stupidity in general.

      1. Putinets
        Putinets 4 February 2016 09: 43
        +7
        I did not assume that translation is also an expression of culture. Although it is possible. By the way, what brings up in moral order
        Is the word "Russian" translated as "Russian" or as "Russian"? - It depends on the context. Well, like, for example, "American" - depending on the context, either "American" or "3.14ndos" ...
        ?
        1. activator
          activator 4 February 2016 10: 24
          10
          Quote: Putin
          I did not assume that translation is also an expression of culture. Although it is possible. By the way, what brings up in moral order
          Is the word "Russian" translated as "Russian" or as "Russian"? - It depends on the context. Well, like, for example, "American" - depending on the context, either "American" or "3.14ndos" ...
          ?

          An interesting topic about werewolves never paid attention to it, but suddenly I remembered that even in fairy tales it was considered a positive quality, we recall the swan princess, even some kind of basilis could turn, but not a word about vampires in Russian fairy tales. Russian - races from the race of races in the distant past who flew to the earth.
          1. Temples
            Temples 4 February 2016 10: 31
            +9
            Russian - races from the race of races in the distant past who flew to the earth.

            Russia - Russia. Or briefly Russia.
            It is simply written in Latin letters.
            As well as Belarus, Prussia, Borussia (the one in Germany).
            For some reason it does not occur to anyone to read Borussia as Borash. Although it would be fun.)))

            But to be like the American goats and, on the basis of their reading, to invent new verbal roots, this is beyond my understanding.
            Nonsense.
            1. activator
              activator 4 February 2016 10: 56
              -1
              Quote: Temples
              Russian - races from the race of races in the distant past who flew to the earth.

              Russia - Russia. It is simply written in Latin letters.
              As well as Belarus, Prussia, Borussia (the one in Germany).
              For some reason it does not occur to anyone to read Borussia as Borash. Although it would be fun.)))

              But to become like the American goats and, on the basis of their reading, to invent new verbal roots, this is complete nonsense.

              But this is a big question, who came up with something, but we are used to it and do not give it attention, taking it for granted. For example, the ritual of communion drinking wine means that Jesus’s blood is drunk, and drinking blood is vampirism, but it’s normal that men in the Old Testament give birth to children is also the norm, and such qualities are inherent in hermaphrodites. But Russia was not originally called that way; that’s what I wanted to say and I’ve been rush how to pronounce it in English, consonantly with some small interpretations.
              1. Temples
                Temples 4 February 2016 12: 03
                +7
                old testament men give birth to children is also the norm

                This is ridiculous. laughing

                The New Testament also says that he gave birth to this and that.
                Understand correctly - in this case it is a question of a pedigree.
                Our surname also passes from father to son.
                See how simple it is?
                Do not invent what is not.

                and rush how to pronounce it in English consonantly ...

                Consonant with the candy company parAskhenko. With marginal oatmeal. laughing
                1. activator
                  activator 4 February 2016 12: 16
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                  Quote: Temples

                  Consonant with the candy company parAskhenko. With marginal oatmeal.

                  If the fish had a flea flea. laughing
              2. avva2012
                avva2012 4 February 2016 12: 18
                +3
                Quote: activator For example, the sacrament rite by drinking wine implies that the blood of Jesus is drunk, and drinking blood is vampirism, but this is normal

                And taking bread and thanking, he broke it and gave it to them, saying: This is my body, which is delivered for you; do this in remembrance of me. Also the cup after supper, saying: This cup [is] the New Testament in My blood, which is shed for you.
                Luke, chapter 22, verses 19-20
                Judging by your logic, eating bread is cannibalism? belay
                In general, the Gospel then, it is better not to read, you never know what, can teach.
          2. Putinets
            Putinets 4 February 2016 10: 32
            +2
            Russian - races from the race of races in the distant past who flew to the earth.

            And do you seriously believe that? I wonder what flew in? Probably the booth of the times of Baba Yaga flies on an ancient spaceship
            1. activator
              activator 4 February 2016 11: 09
              +2
              Quote: Putin
              Russian - races from the race of races in the distant past who flew to the earth.

              And do you seriously believe that? I wonder what flew in? Probably the booth of the times of Baba Yaga flies on an ancient spaceship

              Do you believe that you descended from a monkey, and life suddenly arose on its own? Regarding what, the pictures flew in which depict certain flying objects to lay out or google themselves.
              1. activator
                activator 4 February 2016 11: 26
                0
                One of a row
                1. avva2012
                  avva2012 4 February 2016 12: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: activator One of a row

                  Judging by the appearance, it looks like what the fishermen cover themselves with (which is bigger than the boat). repeat
                  1. activator
                    activator 4 February 2016 13: 14
                    +2
                    Art de Gelder Christ's baptism 1710year And this is what it looks like? He doesn’t look like a god in the clouds
                    1. avva2012
                      avva2012 4 February 2016 15: 31
                      -3
                      Quote: activator Art de Gelder Christ's baptism 1710year And this is what it looks like? He doesn’t look like a god in the clouds

                      The artist lived in an enlightened era. You never know what he drank and how he ate. A little earlier, the lord was betrayed by auto-da-fe and would have been correctly done in my opinion. Heresy.
          3. raf
            raf 4 February 2016 12: 18
            +2
            Russian - races from the race of races in the distant past who flew to the earth.
            Judging by this pearl and looking at the flag, it is hard not to believe in the statement that all of Ukraine is sitting on some kind of not frail "drug"!
          4. Boos
            Boos 4 February 2016 12: 37
            +1
            Rasena, Svyatorussa, Khariytsy and Dariytsy ... White peoples of the Great Race.
          5. Nikolay K
            Nikolay K 4 February 2016 14: 02
            +2
            I see the author has opened a new ruble on VO "Visiting a Fairy Tale", and some are not averse to listening to these same fairy tales, and even discussing them. ... ...
          6. rJIiOK
            rJIiOK 6 February 2016 01: 34
            0
            They opened us, we fly back!
            Do you really believe that?)
            And the German "Russish" - is it the aliens-Rusish?
      2. Now we are free
        Now we are free 4 February 2016 10: 56
        +9
        Wow, how the author of the article "taxied"! Especially with Jung, or rather his types ... The article is interesting (for me personally, and therefore +) But, big and hairy -BUT. The article itself very competently and justifiably leads to the definition of the werewolf and Vampire archetypes in the light of the modern geopolitical situation both in the country and in the world, however, the author, in the most so-called apogee of his narrative, ends the article with an easy reference to Gumilyov and they say, if not fools, you’ll understand themselves, but fools will not understand, but not for them the article was written.
        I will try to decipher the meaning of the article in Russian:

        A country-
        1). Vampires are a class of the "Team" oligarchy, which in its main composition even survived the revolution of 1991 and continues to suck blood from the country / population of Russia in new generations even now. Arrogant, cold-blooded, constantly overwhelmed by lust / greed.
        2). Werewolves are a class of revolutionaries / pyatolonnikov and, unfortunately, often driven to despair by the ordinary population of the country, turning around / exploding with anger when they no longer have a chance for life (worthy) and most importantly for the lives of his children (the population is fangs, claws and a pile of muscles werewolf, revolutionaries / five-columners are only responsible for the process of transformation / turnover in the animal state).

        The collision of two worlds is actively supported from outside. The "golden dream" of the West is to arrange a meat grinder similar to 1917/1991 so that the Rashns would kill each other as much as possible with only one proviso, so that the internal conflict would not spill out beyond the Rashi in the form of flying with "warm greetings" in the direction of Washington and London Russian rockets ala -Dying like that with music / On the world, and death is red! laughing
        1. Now we are free
          Now we are free 4 February 2016 10: 58
          12
          External world-
          1). Vampires are most often associated with the "West" parallels can be drawn with the prim English / French / German nobility: arrogant, cold-blooded, managing a huge cash flow and feeding from it. As a continuation of the genealogical tree of Vampires (new generation), we can cite the United States, which has absorbed all the characteristic features of Vampirism from the old woman of Europe. By and large, the United States is a young clan of Vampires, very strongly strengthened and periodically reminding the European ancestors that he now has real power ...
          2) Werewolves are associated with Russia, China, India - Countries that are about (in modern history) to become overgrown with fangs / claws with muscles and turn into totems themselves, into totems of their countries Russia-Bear, China-Dragon, India-Elephant. Yes, one could mention Japan, BUT the "Young Vampire Family" worked very hard on Japan, turning the once strong Werewolf into an uncomplaining slave supplying Vampires with resources and set against Vampires against their natural counterparts.
          Vampires treat Werewolves with arrogance, if not disgust, reminding them that they are more backward in technical terms, do not have a preserved centuries-old history (in the form of a preserved gene pool of a nation as an example - Civil War in Russia / China / Indo-Pakistani conflict, and how the consequence is the destruction of the "Blue Blood / White Bones" accumulated over the centuries). -The werewolves, they say, stinks of rootlessness, their look is dull, and their number is too huge and not structured to be recognized as a civilized society ...
          Werewolves despise Vampires for their arrogance reaching sometimes to the pretentious absurdity, for the sophisticated cruelty that Vampires so often like to clothe in a beautiful and "High-born" word - Cold-bloodedness. For monotony, because among Vampires deviations from generally accepted rules are not very welcome -If the phone, then iPhone, if you live on credit, if you marry after thirty years, Elsie married to live separately from his parents, there are no real friends, there are only life partners, etc. etc. Werewolves began to make fun of vampires lately, hinting at degradation in the norms of universal and even natural morality. Vampires officially can not only tr ... but also marry a person of the same sex, dogs, cats, exhibit photographs of genitals and feces at an exhibition of high art, calling it -Kongenialnost and "New Word" ...

          The collision of two worlds is inevitable. Vampires, by the way, artificially bred a "new breed" - "Zombies" as an example of ISIS. To fight the Werewolves, because in reality, despite all the bravura statements, Vampires are very afraid of Werewolves of their strength, the number BUT the main thing is PASSIONARY because Vampires are not going to die for their beliefs, but Werewolves are completely, because they can even go to death to prove their case. Werewolves figured out the plan of the Vampires, and how we can now observe actively transklyukiruyut "Army of clones ... oh! -Zombies" (in Syria), not allowing the brainchild of "Vampire genius" to grow stronger ...

          P.S. Summing up, comprehending all of the above for some reason, a brilliant and at the same time simple line from the song by Vladimir Semenovich Vysotsky comes to mind:

          Isn’t it better to be in life
          A decent person ...
          1. mAgs
            mAgs 4 February 2016 11: 56
            +2
            You need to write a book about an alternative story with elements of fantasy. smile With respect. hi
          2. screw cutter
            screw cutter 4 February 2016 12: 20
            +1
            It is written directly from the film "Another World", neither give nor take.
          3. uragan114
            uragan114 4 February 2016 12: 57
            +3
            Now we are free (3) RU Today, 10:58 ↑ New

            Yes, you didn’t just supplement the article, you chewed it and put it in your mouth.
          4. Karlovar
            Karlovar 4 February 2016 14: 09
            +1
            Začet! +100.
          5. tomket
            tomket 5 February 2016 00: 44
            0
            Quote: Now we are free
            in the totems of their countries, Russia-Bear, China-Dragon, India-Elephant. Yes, you could mention Japan,

            Lost Britain - the lion, the king of beasts, America - the eagle, France - the Gali rooster. generally trying to manipulate)))))
    2. Damask
      Damask 4 February 2016 10: 46
      +2
      I agree in our tales, legends, epics and fantasies, and there were neither bloodthirsty vampires, family cannibals, nor werewolves and Santas frosts of stealing children - there were evil-minded babas Baba Yaga, Kashchei, Vodyaniy, Bream and other fairy-tale heroes who, due to circumstances, helped the main heroes
      1. jjj
        jjj 4 February 2016 10: 58
        +5
        Here is a laugh, a laugh, and when our "office plankton" and "creative class" broke away from their roots and even began to prefer overseas hawku, they were inexorably drawn to Bolotnaya ...
    3. Brother
      Brother 4 February 2016 12: 17
      0
      And I like Sponge, he's funny and kind.
    4. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 4 February 2016 13: 26
      +6
      I agree with the author. From the Anglo-Saxons comes this very "turning inside out" so to speak "in all respects." The good is black, the bad is white. For example, in films, murderers, killers, robbers are good heroes, a little "beguiled", "lost", and the police risking their lives every day are pretty much thieves, murderers, corrupt officials. Post-Soviet Russian cinematography among them, "brigades", "boomers" and "petersburg". Also a trip by order from the USA. To them can be added "admirals", "companies" and "Mikhalkovschina", where all Soviet soldiers and officers are evil NKVD officers who cover the offensive with meat, cowards, rapists and murderers, and the prisoners are entirely ideological political prisoners or those who are "framed".
      Originally, a werewolf is evil, and a vampire is kind. Just recently there was a film with Jolie in the title role, called "Malificent", a retelling of "Snow White". It turns out that the evil witch is not evil, she was deceived by the people themselves, and the princess in general is her daughter, in short, complete nonsense. With such success, they will whitewash the blue beard, who dismembered all his wives in the secret room, by the way, who does not know about him they shot the cartoon "Beauty and the Beast", where by the way "u.r.o.d." eventually becomes a prince. The same "Shrek", "Hancock" list is endless. I think there is a fooling of the masses, the instilling in the subconscious of people that evil can be good. That the Wahhabis and Salafis are not terrorists at all, but "fighters against the tyrannical regime", and the legitimate government is "tyranny and the absence of freedoms." Do you forbid homosexual marriage, euthanasia and abortion? So you are a tyrant who does not love your people! not looking for their thoughts, you have the very place on the "train".
      Let's wait and see what other "twists and turns" the West and the liberals who echo them will show us.
  2. Gavril
    Gavril 4 February 2016 09: 37
    +1
    What did you dislike about Spanchbob Squares?
    1. Putinets
      Putinets 4 February 2016 09: 40
      +6
      very informative and most importantly educating the correct morality in kids, not to mention the artistic performance. For me, this is how to compare (roughly roughly) Malevich’s black daub and paintings by Shishkin and Aivazovsky. Also a reflection of culture and their carriers
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 4 February 2016 09: 48
        +8
        Malevich just got amused, he didn’t get the picture, he just covered it with a black square.
        1. Putinets
          Putinets 4 February 2016 09: 50
          14
          "In the museum, the black square painting is stolen 20 times and each time the watchman Uncle Vasya manages to restore it before the opening of the museum"
        2. jjj
          jjj 4 February 2016 11: 00
          +2
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          Malevich just got amused, he didn’t get the picture, he just covered it with a black square.

          Malevich was the first to realize that this square could be an art object. Nobody thought of it. And something I did not see copies of the square in the home collections of even the most creative art historians
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 4 February 2016 14: 18
            +1
            Iskusstvovedy znajut, čto fuflo, no ne skažut vsluh.
      2. Karlovar
        Karlovar 4 February 2016 14: 16
        +1
        Malevič = dlja oduračivanija čerez uprošenie iskustva ....
    2. Lanista
      4 February 2016 10: 31
      +4
      But do I say that I do not like him?
      "Who lives at the bottom of the ocean?" - "The crew of the nuclear submarine on alert!" laughing
  3. Dembel77
    Dembel77 4 February 2016 09: 47
    10
    Nah, we’d better turn around in bears. The bear is strong - it will tear anyone in hand-to-hand combat, but has not been working for half a year - sleeping in a cozy den. Joke.
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  4. bocsman
    bocsman 4 February 2016 09: 50
    13
    The topic is correct and the conclusion is as follows. It is not for nothing that Yusa associates himself with vampires and extols them because the economy and politics of this country are nothing but vampirism! Somewhere in the quiet blood and somewhere in the impudent (where they cannot give a rebuff).
  5. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 4 February 2016 09: 50
    +5
    And the ZOMBIE theme is very popular.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 4 February 2016 09: 56
      +3
      And why in the Lord of the Rings, the orcs necessarily lived in the east? Again, an example of the association with the "evil empire".
      1. sleeping sayan
        sleeping sayan 4 February 2016 10: 05
        +1
        Actually, Tolkien, Mordor associated with Germany.
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 4 February 2016 14: 25
          +1
          S gunnami Atilly.
    2. inkass_98
      inkass_98 4 February 2016 10: 01
      +4
      Zombie in general is an African invention, it belongs to the Voodoo cult, it has nothing to do with European culture.
      And as for the werewolves, everything is true, in Slavic and Germanic mythology they are more likely positive, which is typical for residents of woodlands - bera (bears) and wolves were part of the natural life of forest inhabitants.
  6. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 4 February 2016 09: 51
    +2
    Mudreno :) But interesting.
  7. Magic archer
    Magic archer 4 February 2016 09: 54
    +1
    I wish I read the recollections of one of the hockey players who were one of the first to leave at the end of 80x in the NHL. I liked the paragraph. After the Russians came to play a couple of months later everyone knew the meaning of Russian swear words)))) and they have already begun to use not only ours but also foreigners!))))
    1. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 4 February 2016 10: 04
      +4
      From the memories of my granny. Was in occupation in the Caucasus. with the help of a whip and a Teutonic dialect, a German could not make a requisitioned horse move .... fool And only with the help of local ideomatic expressions, in broken Russian, the mare began to move. So not only foreigners, but also horses are receptive to our "spoken" language. hi
    2. Alex_59
      Alex_59 4 February 2016 12: 03
      +3
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Still a similar article about the Russian mat!

      Yeah. I watched the shots shot on the Ukrainian mobile phone when they were hammering their own, and I immediately realized that they were betraying themselves! Because in extreme conditions, everything pretense is lost and the true face appears. Duck, when everything is fine with them - they speak a mov, and when the edge of life is visible - they cover it with Russian obscenities, like a native! Which once again proves that Ukrainians are Russian, only with a southern accent (the Russian language is not monolithic in Russia either, as they say in Arkhangelsk, they will laugh in Rostov and vice versa).
  8. Sirocco
    Sirocco 4 February 2016 09: 56
    +4
    And now we will consider some aspects of modern mass culture, first of all, cinema and literature. What myths about vampires and werewolves exist now?

    The main producer of film products in modern times are, as you know, film companies in the United States.

    Now let’s see what the USA and Western partners in Ukraine, and in Russia, are doing.
    I will be brief.
    It is enough to replace the history and culture of the people, and there is no country, they themselves will destroy the state with their own hands. What is happening in Ukraine.
    Well, films from Hollywood are fundamentally different from their own films of 20 years ago. Now Hollywood is writing a story.
    1. sa-zz
      sa-zz 4 February 2016 14: 51
      0
      Quote: Sirocco
      It is enough to replace the history and culture of the people, and there is no country, they themselves will destroy the state with their own hands. What is happening in Ukraine.

      It seemed to me that the author led to this. Absolutely agree.
  9. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 4 February 2016 10: 04
    +8
    In general, the modern mass (read American / British) pop culture is characterized by “turning inside out” the traditional mythology about those groups of creatures that are covered in our material. It should be noted that these fairy-tale characters are only an illustrative group, only a marker of the general background of cultural changes introduced by Western pop culture.

    It seems to me that the author of the article did not get to the very essence of the subject.
    All of the aforementioned vampires and morons, like the heroes of today's Western pop culture, are the product (or consequence) of the upbringing and education system of the younger generation. In this case, teenagers live both in the world of fabulous action games - fantasy and comics, and computer on-line games, of which there are thousands on the sites. Moreover, in online action games there is an opportunity to play for supporters of "evil", which in turn leads to a contradiction in the statement that "good triumphs over evil." And then there are games like GTA, where violence and murder become the norm. Hence the shooting at living people in reality. And not only in the USA. This infection also spread to Russia.
    I still remember a colorful edition of Russian folk tales that a kindergarten teacher read to us. It is in Russian fairy tales that good always triumphs over evil. And A.S. Pushkin mentioned: "The tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it - a lesson for good fellows."
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 4 February 2016 14: 30
      0
      Tak gotovjat mjaso dlja vojny.
  10. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 4 February 2016 10: 04
    +2
    If we continue the author’s thought, then the USA turns out to be a historical chimera?
  11. mpzss
    mpzss 4 February 2016 10: 08
    0
    about pop music, remember the festivals held by "Autoradio" and "Retro Radio", look at the occupancy of halls, or rather stadiums, judging by the video, I would not say that the music of the late 80s and early 90s is forgotten, so the example with "affectionate May" is not entirely correct!
    Regarding literature, you (the author) give examples that have appeared now and the "saga" and "Gary" are products, it seems to me, of a sick imagination caused by heavy smoking, it is not clear why! Therefore, I would not consider them as a good example!
    And also, why do you, like the whole USA, consider only vampires and werewolves !? There are many other characters in world folklore, such as the Snow Queen, Baba Yaga, Gorynych Snake, Vinipuh, Tooth Fairy, etc., you can continue for a long time! Why are THESE TWO characters !? Or did you succumb to their propaganda (or rather hooked on their films)?
    PS In the "saga" werewolves, as well as some vampires, are goodies, at least in the first part, the rest I have not watched, not my genre!
    1. Putinets
      Putinets 4 February 2016 10: 15
      +1
      In the "saga" werewolves, like some vampires, are goodies, at least in the first part, the rest I have not watched, not my genre!

      By definition, a vampire and a werewolf cannot be goodies, as minced personalities, i.e. us with you
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 4 February 2016 10: 53
        +1
        A werewolf and a lycanthropus are two different things, werewolfism is a skill, and lycanthropy is a curse.
    2. Lanista
      4 February 2016 10: 29
      +2
      The points.
      Regarding literature, you (the author) give examples that have appeared now and the "saga" and "Gary" are products, it seems to me, of a sick imagination caused by heavy smoking, it is not clear why!

      "Harry", if you've read it, is a pretty good adult detective story in a children's setting. It is difficult to call it a second-rate product. But this is for my IMHO, of course.
      And also, why you, as well as all the USA,

      Colleague, why do you want to offend me? I am Russian and live in Russia.
      only consider vampires and werewolves !? There are many other characters in world folklore, such as the Snow Queen, Baba Yaga, Gorynych Snake, Vinipuh, Tooth Fairy, etc., you can continue for a long time!

      We carefully read the title of the article. The word "some" means limiting the range of objects under consideration. This time. And two - this very example (vampires and werewolves) is the most indicative for demonstrating the variability of mythologemes in different cultures, in this case, traditional culture is compared with modern mass (American-British) pop culture. If you want to create material about the variability of the Winnie the Pooh mythologeme - I bless you for writing.
  12. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 4 February 2016 10: 19
    +5
    Today, one girl did not go to bed on time, after which Black Hands popped out from under the bed and strangled her. And now sports news.
  13. CONTROL
    CONTROL 4 February 2016 10: 23
    +4
    ... Come on, come down!
    although - mythology in contemporary art (film and literature) is considered rather one-sided and flat ...
    For example: - why in cartoons (for children, mind you!), At first timidly, and then more and more boldly and in large quantities, characters began to appear, traditionally not able - or should not? - to evoke sympathy - spiders, scorpions, snakes ... are there rats or octopuses? Instead of bunnies, bears, badgers, or even wolves, deer or some other elk? Embodying: a) kindness b) bravery c) strength d) ... And those ... well, these ...: a) cunning b) rapacity c) greed d) cowardice and betrayal ... to z) inclusive ... And such "characters" began to appear en masse in Soviet (!!!) animation (and children's literature ...) in the 70s and 80s!
    ... The fifth column (literary and intellectual ...)? ...
  14. hartlend
    hartlend 4 February 2016 10: 23
    0
    The genotype is primary, it determines everything. And already mythologism, Jungianism and other rubbish are secondary, tertiary, etc. If ordinary people open the veil of secrecy over genetics, they will be horrified.
  15. Izotovp
    Izotovp 4 February 2016 10: 24
    0
    For the sake of justice: J. Rowling has vampires in Harry Potter books and these are far from positive characters.
  16. cap
    cap 4 February 2016 10: 24
    +1
    "In general, modern mass (read American / British) pop culture is characterized by the" turning inside out "of the traditional mythologeme about those groups of creatures that are considered in our material. It should be noted that these fairy-tale characters are only an indicative group, only a marker of the general the background of cultural changes brought about by Western pop culture.

    Now let's remember L. Gumilyov and the theory of anti-systemism, and everything will fall into place. "


    Thank you. There are still thinking people. hi .
  17. APS
    APS 4 February 2016 10: 30
    +1
    It’s interesting, detailed, intelligible! Somehow I didn’t even think that werewolves, that vampires are all evil, but it turns out to be living, inanimate, good, bad. Thank!
  18. Alex66
    Alex66 4 February 2016 10: 34
    +4
    You have to look wider, not just vampires and werewolves. There is a systematic change in the assessment of good and evil, assessments at least equalize, a vivid example of European values: homosexuality, pedophilia, cannibalism are being introduced little by little. A person is made of a boob, who is ready to accept what is told to him. Yes, and Russia is also subject to this influence, a little behind Europe, well, yes, we always harness for a long time.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 4 February 2016 11: 33
      +1
      Quote: Alex66
      There is a systematic change in the assessment of good and evil, assessments at least equalize, a vivid example of European values: homosexuality, pedophilia, cannibalism are being introduced little by little. A person is made of a boob, who is ready to accept what is told to him. Yes, and Russia is also subject to this influence, a little behind Europe, well, yes, we always harness for a long time.

      This thing is called "Overton windows" - it is a properly and successfully working technology for manipulating public consciousness: that is, such a sequence of actions, the execution of which invariably leads to the desired result. As a weapon for the destruction of human communities, such technology can be more effective than nuclear weapons.
      Wishing - yes google!
  19. V.ic
    V.ic 4 February 2016 10: 36
    +3
    And now we recall L. Gumilyov and the theory of antisystemicity, and everything will fall into place. Author Lanista

    And why write a long article? He said a smart phrase and everything is clear to everyone. In vain, only the author of Lev Nikolaevich mentioned, the discussion can run away from the topic of good and evil in modern myth-making. And what about LN Gumilev, when considering the antisystems, he made a note that Lucifer / "luminiferous" / would be more correct to designate "carrying away light". In the Christian tradition, it is identified with Satan ... I don’t know about the presence of monuments to the "evil one", but in the USA there is one, although there is an inscription "In God We trust" on the notes of the FRS. And the supposedly cultured nation of Europe had "Gott mit Uns" on the buckles of soldiers' belts.
  20. boris-1230
    boris-1230 4 February 2016 10: 36
    +2
    Education and culture are interdependent things. A good education unites people, then the nationality of a person, religious affiliation becomes less significant. People understand that it’s important not what nationality you are, but what kind of person you are.
  21. Andrey_K
    Andrey_K 4 February 2016 10: 39
    +5
    I also drew attention to the abnormal fascination with vampires in cinema and literature.
    With what fright did they suddenly become positive characters?
    I even suspect that the world government has been seized by bloodsuckers and they are setting the stage for legalization.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 4 February 2016 14: 38
      0
      Vse možet byt v etom mire.
  22. Friends
    Friends 4 February 2016 10: 49
    +2
    Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
    And why in the Lord of the Rings, the orcs necessarily lived in the east? Again, an example of the association with the "evil empire".


    Associations are direct.

    Orcs, Tolkien has Russians.

    Few people remember this, but Tolkien wrote things in the style of Tom Clancy - about the war between the USSR and the United States - where the United States liberates "prisoners of conscience" by bombing Russian cities with atomic and conventional bombings, bombing prisons. In addition, those who were interested in the maps of Middle-earth drawn by Tolkien say that even there the Orcs can be identified with the USSR.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 4 February 2016 11: 10
      0
      Tolkien fought in World War I, and, intertwining with myths, described his biography, the result was the sovereign of the rings, so the orcs are just GERMAN SOLDIERS and the Russians are forest elves who came to the Barat fool gorge and helped in the defense of Paris i.e. Fortress in Barat Fool.
      1. Lanista
        4 February 2016 11: 24
        +1
        But I read a study where it was convincingly proved that the Russians are Gondor (the absence of "legal" monarchical power, Slavic names), the USA and Britain are Rohan (they seem to be strong, but everyone is beating them, whoever is lazy), the Jews are forest elves (because after the war they disappeared into Valinor en masse), orcs - Germany (Mordorian) and Japan (Saruman's orcs - Urukhai), gnomes - Switzerland (always with money and militarily neutral).
        1. cth; fyn
          cth; fyn 4 February 2016 13: 03
          +1
          Here he can tell everything about the current, but alas, Johnny will not say anything.
        2. CONTROL
          CONTROL 4 February 2016 14: 50
          0
          Quote: Lanista
          But I read a study where it was convincingly proved that the Russians are Gondor

          It seems that the history of the creation of Middle-earth is as follows: RR Tolkien and KS Lewis competed for themselves in literary and mythological mastery. One wrote "The Hobbit" and - then the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and the other - "The Chronicles of Narnia". It seems that Tolkien won ... hmm-hmm ...
    2. Karlovar
      Karlovar 4 February 2016 14: 40
      +1
      U Pulmana tože zlye tartary v Sibiri živut ....
  23. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 4 February 2016 11: 03
    0
    Dear author, you confuse Lycanthropy and Werewolf somewhat, the fact is that the Werewolf changes only the body, and the sick Lycanthropy undergoes degradation of consciousness to the level of an animal, which is why the classic werewolf kills people, he is simply sick and imagines himself a wolf, and therefore behaves like wolf.
    so consider the nuances. In addition, a vampire does not have to drink blood, but then he will die of old age, because when a vampire drinks blood he makes a sacrifice (demon / god / other power) in order to gain strength for further existence, in general, vampirism is only a way of eternal life, which retains consciousness and does not violate the thinking and personality of the carrier, he is simply forced to kill people in order to survive.
  24. avva2012
    avva2012 4 February 2016 11: 33
    +2
    And now let us remember L. Gumilev and the theory of anti-systemism, and everything will fall into place.

    "The anti-system is a pseudo-ethnic integrity, since it seeks to replace and reject any ethnic tradition, introducing its own life-denying ideology into the consciousness of its members, which, however, cannot take the form of tradition itself and lead to the formation of a full-fledged ethnos on the basis of the anti-system, since the anti-system denies tradition as such and always striving for a light (or dark - depending on the specific implementation) future never reaches it, destroying itself, since the anti-system, destroying other systems, is itself also a systemic integrity, and, therefore, must be destroyed from the standpoint of its own ideology, which due to this, it disappears together with the antisystem.To figuratively speaking, the antisystem tends to annihilate all systems, living and nonliving (not in the mathematical, but in the ordinary sense), including other antisystems, and itself among them.This is the secret of the inability of antisystems to gain ideological victory hell with systems with positive ideologies due to the self-destructive nature of their philosophy. "
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 4 February 2016 15: 04
      +1
      Quote: avva2012
      Figuratively speaking, the anti-system tends to annihilate all systems, living and non-living (not in the mathematical, but in the ordinary sense), including other anti-systems, and itself among them. This is the secret of the inability of anti-systems to win an ideological victory over systems with positive ideologies due to the self-destructive nature of their philosophy. "

      In his youth he was shocked to read "Tales of the Nations of the World" in a version not adapted for children. In Western fairy tales - heroes and other "positive" characters calmly and routinely - rob, kill (not declared charismatic enemies, but almost all in a row ...), rape both women and men, and even eat them. .. This is not just the norm, but the duty of the "hero"! and they kill with sadistic delights, like - "... on the first day he chopped off his fingers, on the second - his legs ... on ... the tenth - he released his guts"! ...
      In eastern - and Slavic - tales and myths, this did not come across ... Or maybe he missed it ...?
      (which is curious - in the myths and tales of the South American Indians - cultures that are considered straightforwardly cannibalistic, loving human sacrifices - there isn’t such a thing! Sacrifice of people is a rather ordinary phenomenon, and even - voluntary; although - sacrifices were made, and in large quantities ... Maybe they knew the way - the transmigration of souls, or something else? ... Castaneda? ...)
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 4 February 2016 15: 14
        0
        Quote: CONTROL In Western fairy tales - heroes and other "positive" characters

        We, fairy tales, have fun, a little bit, a morality, and they have a guide to action camouflaged to a fairy tale.
        Interestingly, "oriental" fairy tales are full of eroticism. "A Thousand and One Nights", sheer pornography, it is impossible to read in adolescence. I read tales and legends about. Madagascar. Also fairy tales, but there is more morality and teaching skills.
        Ah, Western tales, yes, fanaticism.
  25. Per se.
    Per se. 4 February 2016 11: 47
    +4
    Probably, the matter is not only in fairy tales and myths, the West itself is sick, sick due to the flawed morality of capitalism. Russia picked up capitalism, now our culture is undergoing a similar pernicious influence, the same cinematograph clones Western handicrafts, and the Soviet past, in the same kind cartoons or comedies by Gaidai, evokes a light sadness. Ghouls rule the world, bloodsuckers, that's all. It is no longer the novels of Ivan Efremov, with good and great fiction, that are being screened, the future, this is the world of zombies, universal horrors. This is where it goes, why be surprised when the idol is money, the morality of consumerism. Yesterday I watched it on TV, asked Vladimir Vladimirovich what national idea we have, to which the answer was that there is only one idea, this is patriotism. Where does he come from, if patriotism is a consequence of the national idea, as well as high morale. There is no national idea, patriotism is unlikely to flourish. The soldiers of France had high morale on the wave of the ideas of their Great French Revolution, further, the military genius of Napoleon, who came to power and began to build an empire. The same can be said in other historical examples, in our case, the Reds won in due time because they had a great idea. The world of ghouls, rotten morality, if anyone can stop it now, it is Russia, but for its revival it is precisely the real national idea that is needed, otherwise, we will rot also from the syphilis of capitalism, following the West. With thieves in law, godfathers-oligarchs, it is doubtful that national ideas will be more vague about patriotism. There was "Equality and Brotherhood", perhaps something similar is needed, with the concepts of justice, but this is no longer from the world of capitalism. Nosov's "Dunno in the Solar City" and "Dunno on the Moon" have two big and obvious differences. Russia is now not in the "Solnechny gorod", but on the "Moon", or, well, bourgeois have come to our Solar City, the power of the Sprutts, with dwarf and GMO vegetables and fruits. The choice is not great, either to hammer the aspen stakes into the world's ghouls, into their black and rotten hearts, or they will drink blood from us, idolizing vampires and the world of Twilight and Gloom, leading civilization to chaos and misfortune.
  26. avva2012
    avva2012 4 February 2016 11: 55
    +2
    to Japanese kitsune - werewolf foxes, which, according to legend, are only female.

    The Japanese, of course, romance. They have beautiful traditions.
    Rear lamp made of peony flower,
    then set the moon
    and I will run away into your dreams
    O my beloved beloved.
    Only kitsune can do that.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 4 February 2016 14: 49
      0
      Japoncy lis-oborotnej srisovali s kitajskoj mifologii.U kitajcev oni oboich polov ...
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 4 February 2016 16: 00
        -1
        Write in Russian.
  27. Arandir
    Arandir 4 February 2016 13: 35
    +1
    I put a MINUS to this fox for the phrase "The name" vampire "is a Turkic root, their vampires were called" ubur ", from where this word passed into the Slavic languages ​​(" ghoul "), and already from us - to the Germans (" vampire ")" and no longer began to read. When this stops already: "Baba Yaga came to the Slavs from Siberia", "the Goths taught the Slavs to bake bread and gave them this word" and so on and so forth.
    Who are the Turks in order to teach the Slavs something. When civilization was already on the Russian plain, Gardarika, as the Swedes called it. These figures with naked crayfish rode through the wild steppes of Transbaikalia.
    If the Indians themselves recognize the similarity of Sanskrit to Russian, and it is convenient to read the Avesta in Polish.
    And finally, it was interesting for me to find out how the common Slavic word "belt" sounds in German - two words, the first - die Riemen, the second - der Gurt. That is, the same rimen and the same milling. Or the strange, difficult to pronounce English word girl - girl, it is strange and difficult to pronounce until you understand that girl is a turtle dove. And then the rude English word no longer seems so rude. And the bread came from the slab, not from the ready.
    Maybe the time has come to abandon Normanism? Maybe enough to humiliate us already? It's time. According to Ra.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 4 February 2016 14: 44
      +1
      Quote: Arandir
      that the girl is a turtledove. And then the rude English word no longer seems so rude.

      Maybe we won’t be smart about girls? Here are two words for you: нос = The nose; молокo = milk (remove the vowels and the words become similar). But something tells me that it's not so simple. The same L.N. Gumilyov dropped the phrase that in medieval England, written (official) was French (Norman pozhiba).
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 4 February 2016 15: 26
        0
        Quote: V.ic The same L.N. Gumilyov dropped the phrase that in medieval England, written (official) was French (Norman pozhiba).

        And look at what language the motto on the emblem of Great Britain is written.
        In the Middle Ages, the Saxon language was for the people. Some scholars claim that Shakespeare wrote in French.
      2. Arandir
        Arandir 4 February 2016 18: 25
        0
        About clever did not understand confirm or deny? As for the consonants, I agree. It is the consonants that convey the meaning of the word. And due to the use of different vowels or permutation of consonants, different words of different languages ​​are obtained. Example: the three rivers Prupt in the Komi Republic, the well-known Pripyat and the Prut in Moldova. Take away the vowels, PRPT remains. They make sense.
        Probably earlier vowels either spoke less or did not write. And this tradition has been preserved among the Jews. Consonant champions are Western and Southern Slavs and Armenians. Example: heart, slate, last name Mkrtchyan.
        Puidyamo among the Ruthenians, piidemo of the Little Russians, let's go and go among the Great Russians. So I don’t need to tell me about the language of medieval England, our aristocrats in the 19th century also spoke French entirely, but the language is our Russian.
        And as for England, I’ll tell you this: dyak in Little Russian, Zen in Polish and thank you in English. Moreover, those who begin to learn angles, the article the in some cases pronounce Dze. Well, say thank you through ze, it turns out Zen Yu. Only among the Slavs at the end of the word means I thank, and among the English you means you. The Slavs definitely lived on the British Isles. The very name of shaving. Get acquainted with the works of Platon Lukashevich, Svetlana Zharnikova. I believe them, and not the Jewish Freemason Gumilyov.
        The table, se table, ce style. Slavic demonstrative pronoun became an English article.
        And about the Russian names of the Scandinavian, Indian and Egyptian and other gods, I will not say anything at all. One - one, one, Thor - second, Labor, Kvasir, Valkyrie - Valka (she-wolf) Iria, Vishnu - Vyshny, Indra - Indrik beast, unicorn, Shiva - Alive, Devi, Agni, Yama do not need translations. Kali - Kalinov bridge in fairy tales, Ushas - horror, then the truth is a jamb came out. Because the meaning is completely opposite. Dagda among the Celts Dazhdbog among the Slavs. Joy - joy, joy, city - go to Ra, hence Horus or Khor, our Khors is good, Osiris - light up, Isis - come out, Maat - mother, Ptah. And so on and so forth.
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 5 February 2016 06: 50
          0
          Quote: Arandir
          I believe them, and not the Jewish Freemason Gumilyov.

          Sir! Lev Nikolayevich has never been a Jew, or a Freemason, nor on the line of origin, nor on the way of thinking, but that he was a close-knit person - no one except you is in doubt.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 4 February 2016 15: 16
      +1
      Quote: Arandir
      the Goths taught the Slavs to bake bread and gave them this word
      ... how the common Slavic word "belt" sounds in German - two words, the first is die Riemen, the second is der Gurt. That is, the same rimen and the same milling. Or the strange, hard-to-pronounce English word girl - girl,.

      ... and here's another interesting: why in German "boy" is feminine (die Yunge) - according to the article, the girl is neuter (das Mädchen)? And with adults - order (except for "baba" - das Weib, also neuter)! Do they care about it? ... Or is it in the genes that homosexuality is inherent? ...
      ... Normanism, however ...
  28. Gorinich
    Gorinich 4 February 2016 15: 37
    0
    Not a very specific comparison. I don't know how about werewolves, but there are interesting materials about vampires. Everything is quite easily described in Deruzhinsky's book "The Book of Vampires". Mass of actual material. On the basis of which you come to the conclusion that vampirism (if you do not take Hollywood performances for the truth), which took place primarily in Europe and Asia Minor, is a human disease. And the appearance of this disease is associated with our culture (customs and behavior) with Christianity and Islam.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 4 February 2016 15: 58
      0
      Quote: Gorinich And the appearance of this disease is associated with our culture (customs and behavior) with Christianity and Islam.

      Where did this disease go now?
      Obscurantism coincided with the decline of true faith in Europe. The so-called materialism led to the fact that people continued to believe, but already in mysticism. If earlier, jihad was a struggle in the heart of a faithful with the devil, then, even then, it was a struggle with infidels. In Europe, Protestantism further aggravated the situation. And, in fact, only Orthodoxy has long resisted the development of "enlightenment". That is why all sorts of "fairy tales" about werewolves, vampires, have not taken root in Russia.
      1. Gorinich
        Gorinich 4 February 2016 16: 39
        0
        It didn't go anywhere. Distribution is mainly associated with the custom to preserve (store, bury) the dead. If you are interested in history, then the coffins were kept in churches, which means in the center of cities. By historical standards, they began to bury them quite recently. In the Middle East, the climate made it possible to keep the dead without coffins right in the soil. In general, the "virus" is most likely very ancient, the custom of preserving it was very widespread in Ancient Egypt.
        1. Lanista
          4 February 2016 17: 43
          0
          The concept of vampirism as a disease is quite interesting. For the position of a real disease, correlated with mythological vampirism, 2 diseases claim: classic rabies (the bitten person becomes the same as the one who has bitten) and porphyria. Porphyria is a rather rare (fortunately) disease in which all the symptoms of mythological vampirism appear: teeth become thinner and sharper, photophobia and intolerance to garlic appear, the skin darkens, and the joints are deformed, turning a person into something terrible. The most interesting thing is that with porphyria, a dysfunction of hematopoiesis occurs, which makes drinking blood vital for the patient. The difference between these diseases and mythical vampirism is that with a disease, you know, there is no death and subsequent "uprising" from the grave.
          1. Gorinich
            Gorinich 4 February 2016 18: 28
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            Drinking blood is more Hollywood. The main fact is that when a vampire's grave is opened, he is not in the stage of decomposition and "floats in a pool of blood", even after a long time. Why were their graves opened ... this is for the chronicles.
        2. avva2012
          avva2012 4 February 2016 17: 58
          0
          Coffins were kept in churches from the "good" life? In France, in my opinion, there is a burial of bones in the church for several hundred years. Skulls, ribs, etc., were folded separately. What does mysticism have to do with it? Features of living in that area. We had nothing of the kind. Kiev-Pechersk Lavra? But the situation is different there. The bodies of the monks were munified, plus miracles began to happen. And, so, in our tradition, there were no burials in churches (mass).
          1. Gorinich
            Gorinich 4 February 2016 18: 23
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            You see how hard it is to parse and quote a whole book with facts. Therefore, I can only once again refer to the source: Deruzhinsky "The Book of Vampires".
  29. Arandir
    Arandir 4 February 2016 19: 12
    0
    I would like to contact the author. You don't deny that the Russian people are talented and inventive? Compose a huge number of fairy tales, myths, give an explanation of how vampires appear - the hostage dead, suicides, some sorcerers and witches after death, our people could describe many stories of real and unreal, but could not give a name to the phenomenon. Went to the Turks to bow: "Forgive us the orphan and the poor, there is a phenomenon, but there is no name. Give us the weak a word to describe this phenomenon. There are no forces, there are ghouls, but there is no word." And the Türks are like that from the shoulder of the master: "keep the pier, the Slavs are unreasonable, uid!" (by the way, not ubur).
    Our ancestors scratched their heads and agreed. "Good. We'll call them your word, but in our own way, ghoul, ghouls are yours, even if your word."
    When will these Normanists quit?