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Ukraine’s security “enhanced” due to 230 km of anti-tank ditches in the east of the country

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The report on strengthening the security of Ukraine, prepared in the Yatsenyuk Cabinet, tells us that the strengthening of "security" was primarily carried out on the border of the eastern Ukrainian regions with the Russian Federation. The report of government officials in Ukraine said the creation of "additional" anti-tank ditches, which were dug in Kharkiv and Chernihiv regions. The total length of the moat, according to the government report, was, no less than, 230 km. Another 115 km - rokadnye roads.


Ukraine’s security “enhanced” due to 230 km of anti-tank ditches in the east of the country


The report also contains information about the 72 km of metal mesh fence, as well as 9 firing positions, each of which is designed for 10 people. Will signal towers be erected and territories be cleared for scaring potential enemy fireplaces, - the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine does not inform ...

If you pay attention to the enthusiasm with which the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine talks about digging anti-tank ditches and erecting fences from the net, you can come to the conclusion that in Kiev they are trying to present this infrastructure only as the Ukrainian line of Mannerheim. Apparently, military strategists in Kiev seriously believe that they are ready to restrain the “potential tank the enemy’s onslaught ”with the help of a fence, which partially already ended up in the nearest suburban areas of Chernihiv and Kharkiv ...

The government of Ukraine said that about 16 million dollars had been spent on the construction of the “security line”. At the same time, it is added that the “improvement of the security line,” Yatsenyuk called the “European shaft”, will continue, for which they are already preparing to allocate money from a debt sump, called the Ukrainian state budget.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 2 February 2016 12: 58
    23
    "about 9 firing positions, each of which is designed for 10 people."

    The moat is still back and forth, but these positions will not pass. crying
    1. Bath
      Bath 2 February 2016 13: 00
      26
      this ditch is not in order to restrain the onslaught from the outside but in order to keep the pressure from the inside))) the lads are running from the krajina and the women
      1. vlad66
        vlad66 2 February 2016 13: 04
        18
        Quote: Bath
        this ditch is not in order to restrain the onslaught from the outside but in order to keep the pressure from the inside))) the lads are running from the krajina and the women

        Everything is much simpler, the more it is written on paper that so many dug or built fences are built, the richer Senya Krol becomes.
        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 2 February 2016 13: 08
          13
          The government of Ukraine said that about the construction of the "security line" spent about 16 million.
          This is SAW!
          1. Darkmor
            Darkmor 2 February 2016 13: 09
            12
            Oh, these Buryat armored divisions, raising fear for peaceful lads.
            Ukrainians cannot sleep peacefully, even the fat of shat beyond the bosom of calm adds a week!

            True, in order to fully defend themselves against them, the ditch should be 20 meters deep in order to exclude undermining of fighting Siberian moles.
            And also the embankment should be at least 6 meters high in order to exclude sabotage by flying squirrel special forces.
            And it’s even better if there is running water in the ditch, otherwise the beaver engineers will organize a dam from their beaver bridge layer.
            1. Bronis
              Bronis 2 February 2016 13: 12
              26
              oops ... did not take into account a little ... wassat
              1. GDP
                GDP 2 February 2016 13: 28
                17
                You also need to put a couple of booths with dogs, then the tanks will definitely not work :)



                What to do ... Svidomo rural thinking laughing
                1. your1970
                  your1970 2 February 2016 18: 03
                  +2
                  and the cat got a roof for itself (even three !!!) I’ve got it, and it’s sitting happy .. I wanted to go down by the side of the dog (personal heating), I wanted to, I went to the next booth, and the war starts, the dog closes from the neighboring barbarians ....
                  That's where the real change is !!!!
                  Only the dog has a look, as if the zrad around ...
              2. Tatyana
                Tatyana 2 February 2016 13: 37
                +1
                Why are Ukrainians on our side throwing their thrown land at us ?! Is that supposed to us to spoil our territory ?! Mess! And, besides, this land rampart visually for our border guards closes their territory from viewing.
                How should all this really be? Who knows, please answer!
                1. 33 Watcher
                  33 Watcher 2 February 2016 14: 50
                  +3
                  No Tatyana, this is an annexation of Ukrainian land, many tons of black soil were thrown across the border laughing
                  1. Throw
                    Throw 2 February 2016 18: 58
                    -1
                    Simpler.
                    This is a springboard for our tanks.
                    Only the khols do not yet know wink
              3. oborzevatel
                oborzevatel 2 February 2016 13: 53
                10
                Quote: Bronis
                oops ... did not take into account a little ... wassat

                The spreader is good!
                But it is possible and much simpler:
                1. GDP
                  GDP 2 February 2016 14: 25
                  +4
                  Why are Ukrainians on our side throwing their thrown land at us ?!

                  Everything is done with deep intent, the land is thrown on our side so that it is easier for our tractors to push the earth back into the pit, so that tanks pass laughing
                  one tractor with a blade, there is no hour of work and a kilometer of moat ...
                  A couple of drunk tractor drivers, if they should be motivated properly, will dig this moat worth 16 000 000 bucks to such and such a mother in a week or two :))

                  And I think the grid, the local population will sort it out for chicken coops, well, or just - so that it’s bulo ... (if they put it of course)
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 2 February 2016 18: 04
                    +2
                    tractor drivers if you matrate properly, so they fall asleep in a couple of days .......
                    1. 1774
                      1774 2 February 2016 22: 58
                      +1
                      I looked at the photo of this moat, appreciated. In general, if I drive up on my old Niva and if I have a good bayonet and shovel shovel in the trunk, provided that no one will interfere in four hours, I will overcome this Mannerheim line.
            2. 1774
              1774 2 February 2016 22: 52
              0
              Yes, even from Africa you need to write out crocodiles, and acclimatize to our winters, because you feel some kind of incompleteness.
          2. lis-ik
            lis-ik 2 February 2016 13: 31
            +8
            We have Rusnano, they have a European shaft, an inexhaustible invention of thieving officials, Europe will die of envy.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 2 February 2016 15: 10
              +7
              Quote: lis-ik
              We have Rusnano, they have a European shaft, an inexhaustible invention of thieving officials, Europe will die of envy.

              Europe from them and so already crazy)))
              It is interesting that these moles dig there, if there was no border agreement between Russia and Ukraine and no work was done on its delimitation and demarcation. They essentially still live in the USSR)))
            2. Sober
              Sober 2 February 2016 15: 20
              +2
              Quote: lis-ik
              We have Rusnano, they have European Val

              Do not tear my heart.
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          4. Enot-poloskun
            Enot-poloskun 2 February 2016 15: 47
            +2
            I remember that in 1943, Adolf Hitler also built the East Wall. Did not help.
            1. Kite
              Kite 2 February 2016 16: 40
              +1
              Yeah! And the Poles created fortified districts in the east, but German armored divisions marched from west to east.
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 2 February 2016 14: 37
          +2
          Quote: vlad66
          Everything is much simpler, the more it is written on paper that so many dug or built fences are built, the richer Senya Krol becomes.

          As the saying goes "God is not Mikitka, he does not hit with a stick" "You were bad Azarov, who pulled out the industry - get Yatsenyuk!" Here it is, THE PUNISHMENT OF GOD! But he asked the guy to "smoke on the forehead" on the Maidan! Be greedy, now get out of the way!
        3. spech
          spech 2 February 2016 14: 45
          0
          Everything is much simpler, the more it is written on paper that so many dug or built fences are built, the richer Senya Krol becomes.

          And then, $ 70.000 per kilometer trench laughing
        4. NIKNN
          NIKNN 2 February 2016 21: 37
          +2
          Ukraine for Russia as a younger brother, sometimes feel sorry for her, sometimes
          she wants to weigh the stars. lol
      2. Barnaul, Altai
        Barnaul, Altai 2 February 2016 13: 12
        +1
        Yes Yes Yes!
        secret meaning revealed! laughing
    2. hedgehog in the fog
      hedgehog in the fog 2 February 2016 13: 02
      +3
      the ditch is somehow narrowish, t90 will jump up from the brusver, it won’t even notice, trash, drip wider, not filonte smile
      1. Bronis
        Bronis 2 February 2016 13: 07
        16
        Quote: hedgehog in the fog
        the ditch is somehow narrowish, t90 will jump up from the brusver, it won’t even notice, trash, drip wider, not filonte

        Well, not to protect us from digging a ditch, but to divert money ... everyone understands everything. I needed another anti-aircraft mesh netting ... for reliability
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 2 February 2016 13: 16
          +4
          Quote: Bronis
          everyone understands everything. I needed another anti-aircraft mesh netting ... for reliability

          Mesh netting is expensive! We need environmentally friendly wattle fence!
          1. Bronis
            Bronis 2 February 2016 13: 17
            +4
            Quote: Tol100v
            Mesh netting is expensive! We need environmentally friendly wattle fence!

            and a separately purchased shadow for him ...
        2. oborzevatel
          oborzevatel 2 February 2016 13: 57
          +6
          I apologize for interfering ...
          And the military in the photo has a spear of which system?
          Nano
    3. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 2 February 2016 13: 03
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      The moat is still back and forth, but these positions will not pass
      - Checks must be done, checkouts! And also put anti-tank hedgehogs. And if it’s a pity for hedgehogs, then cut the rigatin. So roughly, if you do more nefig.
      1. Bath
        Bath 2 February 2016 13: 05
        +2
        yeah, notches and sticks digging do not forget wassatbut just do a degradation on the face of the sea digging in one fell swoop and then a rovik is somehow frivolous
        1. 2С5
          2С5 2 February 2016 13: 37
          +1
          ... a great nation can execute only great projects !!! And then some ditch against some tanks ... pah and that’s all, we won’t even become dishonored! No.
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 2 February 2016 13: 13
        20
        I don’t know about notches, but these are real ukrovals on the border with Crimea. As they say, half of the advancing enemies will die with laughter, and the second from shame ...
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 2 February 2016 13: 23
          0
          Quote: inkass_98
          these are real Ukrainians on the border with the Crimea.

          Normal trenches with fortified walls. request
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 2 February 2016 13: 33
            +2
            And also the gardener economic Ukrainians fired.
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      3. 2С5
        2С5 2 February 2016 13: 35
        +1
        ... And if iron pity on hedgehogs

        ... yes, it’s not a pity, but irresponsible citizens of the great grave will plunder through their summer cottages ...

        Apparently, military strategists in Kiev seriously believe that they are ready to restrain the "potential tank attack of the enemy" with the help of a fence, which has partially already appeared at the nearest summer cottages of Chernihiv and Kharkiv ...
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 2 February 2016 13: 48
      +1
      Ukraine’s security “enhanced” due to 230 km of anti-tank ditches in the east of the country

      Another smelly portion of ykroidiotizma. Well, if ykippipl hawala, then this is his problem. fool
    5. Avantageur
      Avantageur 2 February 2016 19: 40
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      The moat is still back and forth, but these positions will not pass. crying

      With the latest means of warfare, as well as with means of overcoming obstacles, for example, such as an armored tank bridgelayer, or simply stupidly through the holes made by sappers, overcome these "equipped" anti-tank ditches - like two fingers on the asphalt ...

  2. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 2 February 2016 12: 59
    +1
    Well, if they hope that the ditches will save them ... I love optimists! :)
  3. kit-kat
    kit-kat 2 February 2016 13: 00
    +2
    In sawing something!
  4. Magic archer
    Magic archer 2 February 2016 13: 02
    +3
    Pour with water, put crocodiles and warriors with spears and bows around the perimeter! Well, so that probably did not pass!)))
  5. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 2 February 2016 13: 03
    12
    This will not stop our tank army No. .
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 2 February 2016 13: 44
      +2
      Damn, then do the thing, people worked, they put their health on the defense of the country, they erased shovels on clay to zero, and you just a bridge ... laughing
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 2 February 2016 14: 54
        0
        So these are just "flowers". The breakthrough strip will be processed by a missile and artillery strike to a sufficient depth. wassat ?
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  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 February 2016 13: 04
    +1
    These are the very ditches through which even the T-72 jumps down the ramp? Powerful facilities. Covered even by checkpoints of 10 people. Right, Mannerheim Line. Or Maginot.
  8. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 2 February 2016 13: 06
    +2
    They dug up the Black Sea and then there is some kind of moat, a trifling matter for them. smile
  9. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 2 February 2016 13: 07
    +6
    Ukraine’s security “enhanced” due to 230 km of anti-tank ditches in the east of the country
  10. vell.65
    vell.65 2 February 2016 13: 07
    +1
    Dollars need to be buried somewhere.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 2 February 2016 16: 26
      0
      Quote: vell.65
      Dollars need to be buried somewhere.


      Incorrect wording, dollars just do not bury, but put in their pockets.
  11. korvin1976
    korvin1976 2 February 2016 13: 07
    +2
    You do not understand why they put up a fence, dig ditches. Now they certainly say that this is from the aggression of Russia, but ....... they will dig in, fence themselves off, get a closed zone, and then they will send all those objectionable refugees from the east there. And it will turn out not just a closed zone, but a zone with certain parameters.
    1. Barnaul, Altai
      Barnaul, Altai 2 February 2016 13: 20
      +3
      it seems to me that everything is quite simpler: Ukraine is occupied by the proppendian elite. And this moat is literally a line of opposition formally. The enemy means captured territory, nothing more! such an advocacy move ...
      1. Sober
        Sober 2 February 2016 15: 29
        +1
        Quote: Barnaul, Altai
        The enemy means captured territory, nothing more!

        those. marks!
  12. sgr291158
    sgr291158 2 February 2016 13: 07
    0
    All now the enemy will not pass, the border is on the castle.
  13. izya top
    izya top 2 February 2016 13: 08
    +2
    no, you have to dig a wall deeper recourse
  14. givigor71
    givigor71 2 February 2016 13: 08
    +2
    It would be better for Ukrainians to dig a ditch in their brains so that delirium and dullness remain in the dying cells ... fool
  15. Barnaul, Altai
    Barnaul, Altai 2 February 2016 13: 08
    21
    I saw a lot of idiots
    And I heard different eccentrics
    But as much as in Ukraine -
    I have not seen fools yet ...

    Drowning in debt, like in a swamp,
    Having robbed ourselves -
    Scream, yell all about freedom,
    Blaming others for your sins!

    Holding a colored chalk in their hands -
    I draw a globe of the earth from now on.
    I don’t know where the navel is in the Earth,
    BUT ASS - EXACTLY IN UKRAINE!

    (verse from the Internet wassat )
    1. Sober
      Sober 2 February 2016 15: 31
      0
      Quote: Barnaul, Altai
      BUT ASS - EXACTLY IN UKRAINE!

      Not funny. A plus!
  16. Gray 43
    Gray 43 2 February 2016 13: 11
    +2
    Anyway, neither "Iskander" nor "Caliber" can take such a powerful obstacle)))) and "Dryers" will not see "cyborgs" at the bottom of the ditches)))
  17. denni
    denni 2 February 2016 13: 14
    +2
    Well, the boss will not pass the mustache and will not jump over.
  18. Evdokim
    Evdokim 2 February 2016 13: 16
    +1
    It seems that we do not have an agreement on demarcation (or what is called) of the state border with Ukraine, maybe they are digging our territory? Or spoil the Russian landscape?
  19. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 2 February 2016 13: 16
    +1
    Great poem, but not the full version. I found the verse completely, but the author is still not there.
  20. VP
    VP 2 February 2016 13: 18
    +3
    I can not understand the boys.
    No, well, I can understand those who order these ditches - an extra honestly hardened hryvnia to Svidomism is not a hindrance.
    But the rest, those to whom they hang noodles on their ears, do they not understand that they dig a ditch for months and a tank with a blade makes it through it in 5 minutes?
    And why did no one ask the question why do you need "72 km of a fence from a metal mesh" if this fence from a chain-link is not an obstacle to an ordinary infantryman?
    Or there the population is completely dumb or everyone doesn’t care
    1. vch62388
      vch62388 2 February 2016 13: 31
      +4
      there the population is completely dumb or everyone doesn’t care

      70 dollars per meter of the ditch (16 million / 230 km). Why not dig? It’s also safe (no one shoots). The bonanza for the contractor.
    2. lex locis
      lex locis 2 February 2016 14: 35
      +1
      Eccentric, you were clearly told that this chain-link is very good even in gardens. Thus, the population was even wiser, welcoming such an initiative of the state ...
  21. cheguevarazhiv
    cheguevarazhiv 2 February 2016 13: 18
    +3
    Cough of Sergei Lavrov .....
  22. drags33
    drags33 2 February 2016 13: 20
    +3
    And this is actually a very strong and unexpected course of dill !!! After all, what happens - now the Russian armored cavalry forces with the carts attached to them will not be able to overcome these ditches! And what will our General Staff answer now?
    1. Your friend
      Your friend 2 February 2016 13: 29
      +3
      Quote: drags33
      And this is actually a very strong and unexpected course of dill !!! After all, what happens - now the Russian armored cavalry forces with the carts attached to them will not be able to overcome these ditches! And what will our General Staff answer now?

      What are the armored forces? What are you talking about? Everyone knows that all tank Buryat armies and GRU assault divisions have long been destroyed by glorious pristine horses. Only Almaty remained, and even cardboard ones.
    2. 2С5
      2С5 2 February 2016 13: 42
      +1
      ... the mistake in this picture is gross !!! Kakly pillars are not placed, instead of entogo they have banners advertising the "state cordon" laughing
  23. Conscience
    Conscience 2 February 2016 13: 20
    0
    I don’t understand which of them is dumber than a hare or a hut - probably a hut, since he believes in these super fortified areas - the hare has already earned for carrots ... wassat
  24. mitya24
    mitya24 2 February 2016 13: 21
    +2
    Andre Maginot and Karl Mannerheim nervously smoking aside
  25. rus-5819
    rus-5819 2 February 2016 13: 21
    +1
    Five years later, looking at a tubercle on the border:
    -Look, son, and this is how the recumbent VSushnik looks like! "
  26. LeftPers
    LeftPers 2 February 2016 13: 23
    +4
    Yes come in handy, Svidomo soldier to bury.
  27. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 2 February 2016 13: 31
    0
    Conspirators are bad !!! Prepared a large mass grave, called a moat. But they revealed you.
  28. salad
    salad 2 February 2016 13: 33
    +1
    Dill harness laughing grandmother sawing is not childish laughing Well, since they’re sawing on a false aggressor then let them pay compensation for PR wassat
  29. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 2 February 2016 13: 34
    +2
    I wonder how much dough these architects dug from the budget in their pocket during the construction of the trench in the photo (probably 90% of the spent 16 million) laughing

    I’m not talking about the Great Ukrainian Wall at all. laughing



    An insurmountable obstacle for armored tanks. laughing
    1. anfil
      anfil 2 February 2016 13: 43
      +3
      Quote: Gormengast
      I wonder how much dough these architects dug from the budget in their pocket during the construction of the trench in the photo (probably percent 90% of the spent 16 million) laughing


      1. Gormenghast
        Gormenghast 2 February 2016 14: 43
        0
        Savages fenced off from civilized people. laughing
  30. narval20
    narval20 2 February 2016 13: 36
    +2
    All they had to do was hang empty cans on a thorn and they can report on another "change" not only in countering the aggressor, but also in a new engineering thought ...
    The main thing is OTHER: MONEY spent not small! ... clowns and thieves negative
  31. Stinger
    Stinger 2 February 2016 13: 43
    +1
    Another 115 km - rocky roads.

    You cannot do without them! Nerds must maneuver. The aggressor thinks that they are cooling by the fires, and they have been sharpening their teeth in shelters for a long time. Rabbits love to dig holes.
  32. koshmarik
    koshmarik 2 February 2016 13: 46
    +1
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: inkass_98
    these are real Ukrainians on the border with the Crimea.

    Normal trenches with fortified walls. request

    If all this is called the "European shaft", then we can safely carry out a large-scale reduction of the RF Armed Forces.
  33. fa2998
    fa2998 2 February 2016 13: 51
    +1
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: inkass_98
    these are real Ukrainians on the border with the Crimea.

    Normal trenches with fortified walls. request

    You’re probably a marshal of engineering troops. Why should these trenches be strengthened above ground level? After all, a soldier needs to shoot a belt from the trench (an inch board is not protection). And tall risers with crossbars are for disguise! In general, these fortifications squalor. hiAmong other things, the rest of the "fortification" fortifications (ditches, nets ...) ukrov.
  34. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 2 February 2016 13: 53
    0
    I propose to bury and make an embankment .. fortress shaft, so to speak ..
  35. koshmarik
    koshmarik 2 February 2016 13: 54
    +2
    Ukrainian diggers and retractors have no idea what a modern tank army is, moreover, with full engineering and technical support and aerospace cover. However, no matter what the child was amusing.
  36. 2С5
    2С5 2 February 2016 13: 59
    0
    [media = http: //ok.ru/video/64928602510675-0? fromTime = 34]

    ... our answer to Yaytsenyuhu !!! hihttp://ok.ru/video/64928602510675-0?fromTime=34
  37. Riv
    Riv 2 February 2016 14: 02
    0
    They all seemed to want to tackle everything from the net. Is the net over?
    1. lex locis
      lex locis 2 February 2016 14: 39
      0
      The grid is already standing. In the gardens. Very smart rationalization. And the wall is there and the good ...
  38. 2С5
    2С5 2 February 2016 14: 05
    0
    [media = http: // http: //ok.ru/video/64928602510675-0? fromTime = 34]
  39. hohkn
    hohkn 2 February 2016 14: 07
    +2
    Quote: koshmarik
    However, no matter what the child was amusing.

    Just to not get pregnant.
  40. fa2998
    fa2998 2 February 2016 14: 34
    0
    Quote: Riv
    They all seemed to want to tackle everything from the net. Is the net over?

    The grid went on the side! At the service he himself participated in strengthening the surrounding dachas with barbed wire. So to say, "small business". People need it more! laughing drinks soldier hi
  41. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 2 February 2016 14: 47
    +5
    Why would they have some kind of ditch if they dug up the Black Sea. laughing
    1. sledge
      sledge 2 February 2016 14: 53
      0
      Ahhh it's 5! Thanks neighing !!!
  42. sledge
    sledge 2 February 2016 14: 50
    0
    It is also necessary to strengthen anti-tank hedgehogs and a picket fence with a thorn!
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 2 February 2016 17: 03
      0
      Poor hedgehogs. They have no idea that they have already been appointed anti-tank.
  43. fodder
    fodder 2 February 2016 15: 23
    0
    Very pleased with 9 firing positions! At 230km in my opinion in abundance, do not crawl do not drive, in general good fellows :)
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  45. demchuk.ig
    demchuk.ig 2 February 2016 15: 52
    0
    This is a dual-use ditch - you need to buy more crosses for it!
  46. vic58
    vic58 2 February 2016 16: 18
    0
    Do you think that just dripping like that? No! Should we sell the earth from Evrop? ... should we. And then there is Uncle Sam throws up for work ... And when you scold this "Sam", you will experimentally prove that "the moat is insurmountable." repeat
  47. sabakina
    sabakina 2 February 2016 20: 59
    +1
    Well stupid !!!!
    I don't remember in which episode, but Janek from the movie "Four Tankmen and a Dog" "cut off" the "banks" of the ravine with anti-tank mines. We need one rocket or bomb today ...
  48. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 2 February 2016 21: 08
    +1
    as our colonel tanker said, all obstacles were first handled by engineer troops and only then tank troops followed. so ditches are useless
  49. Stoler
    Stoler 2 February 2016 22: 09
    +1
    Yes, I don’t understand at all which X is G to be discussed? request