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Klimkin considers partnership with Ankara "the cornerstone of security in the Black Sea"

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Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin found "the cornerstone of security on the Black Sea." According to Mr. Klimkin, this "stone" is "the establishment of strong cooperation between Kiev and Ankara." Ukrainian Foreign Minister quotes Turkish edition Daily Sabah:
Without a doubt, any cooperation in the areas of security and defense is possible. And the partnership of Ukraine and Turkey is truly the cornerstone of security in the Black Sea. It is necessary to fight for the future of this region to influence Russia.



Klimkin considers partnership with Ankara "the cornerstone of security in the Black Sea"


How does Klimkin, together with the Turkish partners, intend to fight "for the future of the region" (perhaps through Islyamov's statements about the next blockade of the Crimea? Or sending an embassy mission in the form of Dzhemilev to the Turks?), Pavel Klimkin did not explain. But Klimkin supported Turkey in that she shot down the Russian Su-24. The Ukrainian minister said:

Turkey had the right to defend itself.


At the same time, Klimkin did not specify what the Russian plane that performed the anti-terrorist mission in the skies of Syria could threaten Ankara, and why did Erdogan have to defend himself from Su-24?
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  1. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 2 February 2016 06: 51
    +4
    Erdogan pushed good grass
    1. The black
      The black 2 February 2016 06: 54
      10
      Looking at Klimkin's face, I just want to ask psychiatrists from Kursk, “guys, how did you manage not to notice such a moron?” This is your Client and according to the Hippocratic oath you are obliged to help him laughing
      1. just exp
        just exp 2 February 2016 06: 57
        +4
        and where are the Turks looking? it's like kakl.
        Yesterday there was news that Kakly were ready to help the states in the fight against ISIS, including in the military sense, although recently they and ISIS were almost brothers.
        in general kakly sold ISIS, they will sell the Turks.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 2 February 2016 07: 35
          +7
          Contacting Turkey, Pavel Klimkin, opens up native spaces in Ukraine for the activities of ISIS jahadists, whom Erdogan covers.
          Klimkin, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, has a higher technical education in applied physics, was once associated with weapons, while in profile humanitarian education - in philosophical, ideological and political issues - he is a godless layman. The man clearly did not finish his studies at the university - he is a dreadful three-man in humanitarian - philosophical - subjects.
          Not only were liberals Kravchuk and Kuchma the first to politically and economically rape Ukraine in their pocket, but another - now jahadist (!) - traitor to Ukraine was found!
          All that Turkey can do for Ukraine is to make a base from Ukraine for Daesh militants, who will then spread around Ukraine like cockroaches, with their intolerant and bloodthirsty Assyrian charter of the 6-7 century.
          Klimkin found someone to contact! With Erdogan Turkey! It would be better if Klimkin would collect his friars and dump them from Ukraine before it is too late.
          Time shows that it is time for the current authorities from Ukraine to scatter, before it is too late.
          1. just exp
            just exp 2 February 2016 07: 41
            +3
            and what, Klimkin already decides with whom to contact Ukraine, and with whom not? They decided for him a long time ago, he stupidly voices other people's decisions.
            and given the behavior of the national battalions in the Donbass, I don’t see how the presence of jihadists will aggravate the situation, like Nazi animals no less than Islamists.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 2 February 2016 08: 03
              +4
              Just exp
              I don’t see how the presence of jihadists will aggravate the situation, like fascist animals no less than Islamists.
              For fascists, ideology is secular in nature, and therefore it can change. For ISIS, the ideology goes back to the religious standards of Islam of the 6 century. Religious canons do not change among adherents of a particular direction in the principle NEVER. ISIS prepares the world towards the end of humanity in the divine plan - this is their task. Nationalists are going to live on, but ISIS jahadists are not. They are going to cleanse the Earth of the "infidels" and then finish their earthly existence all together. DAISH is a religious sect.
              That is the difference. IN ultimate goal your struggle.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 2 February 2016 08: 32
                +3
                To this statement by Klimkin about such “cooperation” between Ukraine and Turkey, Erdogan, my husband would now say:
                - Everything! P.I.Z.de.ec Ukraine!
                1. Temples
                  Temples 2 February 2016 08: 45
                  +1
                  The whole point in these words:
                  It is necessary to fight for the future of this region in order to influence Russia.

                  They are the meaning of the existence of this "state".
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              3. just exp
                just exp 2 February 2016 10: 28
                +1
                You probably don’t understand what this is all about, or even the subject matter itself.
                and the problem is not ideology, but the problem is deviation, the rejection of the human psyche.
                that is, first you need a sadist, but the ideology will be chosen for him. and there will be no sadist, no ideology will help. You would esteem those who have always been distinguished by torture and cruelty, and why, even in the same ISIS, most of them will not cut their heads off as prisoners, those who are just fighters are recruited by ideology, and those who are cruel are recruited to the limit by the opportunity to kill and torment, and ideology is just for the excuse.
              4. avdkrd
                avdkrd 2 February 2016 19: 46
                +1
                Quote: Tatiana
                For ISIS, the ideology goes back to the religious canons of Islam of the 6th century.

                Excuse me, in what way ISIS ideology "goes back" to the canons of Islam, especially the 6th century ????? ISIS professes a pseudo-religious surrogate, possibly "calculated" and orchestrated as Wahhabism, which was founded according to the project of Great Britain by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab in 1730 in Najd. Given the artificiality of the creation of ISIS, there is no particular doubt that one of the goals set by the creators is to discredit Islam. In addition, every field commander (maybe not everyone, but there is a tendency) appoints himself a beloved prophet and speaks nonsense that is incompatible with the Koran.
                It is not good to endow fascists with secular ideology because the meaning of the word ideology is a combination of systematically ordered views, and not a stupid opposition to common sense in the form of a denial of its roots. A systematic approach cannot be based on one lie, otherwise it is not an ideology, but a sect. Of those who are formally an ideological fascist in 404, there are actually not so many - the main biomass is trash who have not found themselves in life, for whom this is the only way to rise above the laborer (rifle gives rise to power) or a swindler (deputies from raguli), head their most often just unprincipled businessmen from politics. Yaytsenyuh, for example, not so long ago (in 2012) made the impression of a sane person, he talked about Putin and Russia in a completely different tone, one might say with an aspiration, but as they say, money spoils people, especially from the State Department.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy5LRPNAPGw
          2. Wheel
            Wheel 2 February 2016 09: 25
            +2
            Quote: Tatiana
            with its intolerant and bloodthirsty Assyrian charter of the 6-7th century.

            Why are you so lowered the Assyrians?
            Assyrians are Christians, if Th.
            The Turks enthusiastically slaughtered them along with the Armenians.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 2 February 2016 11: 53
              0
              Wheel
              Assyrians are Christians, if Th.
              The Turks enthusiastically slaughtered them along with the Armenians.

              Assyria is the first world power, if counted from ancient times.
              Assyria lasted almost two thousand years, starting from the XXIV century BC. e. and until its destruction in the VII century BC. uh ...
              The Assyrians regularly made campaigns - not so much for the sake of expanding the territory, but for the sake of robbery. And where there is robbery, there is always murder and violence. These were the manners of the Assyrians. Robbed and killed without a twinge of conscience.
              The Christian faith, the Assyrians adopted later.
              So, at one time everyone was "good" there.
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        2. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 2 February 2016 07: 41
          +4
          Quote: just explo
          in general kakly sold ISIS, they will sell the Turks

          Ukrainians, first of all, sold themselves when they refused to be part of the great Russian people. In general, today's Ukrainians are strange creatures. The most fiery friendship is led with their centuries-old enslavers and oppressors - Turks and Poles.
          And now for a moment of classical music. Cavatina Karas "Now I am not a Turk" from S. Gulak-Artemovsky's opera "Zaporozhets beyond the Dunaєm". Dedicated to indestructible Ukrainian-Turkish friendship.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 3 February 2016 07: 11
            +2
            Amazing And harem pants and a red sash belt, of the Cossacks, very much resemble a national Turkish costume! Apparently, these are traces of the Ottoman Empire, which was once present on parts of modern Ukraine.
            Don Cossacks didn't have all this Turkish crap, it seems! In the film Gerasimov "Quiet Don" 1957. where some of the actors were real Veshenskie Cossacks, they did not dress like that.
        3. redeemer
          redeemer 2 February 2016 08: 42
          0
          and kakly this is the descendants of the Turks. where are the forelocks and harem pants from?
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 2 February 2016 07: 18
        +3
        I'm more interested in the other - how did he get two higher education? He was obviously the first to study full-time, the physicist was finishing, as far as I remember. And there the certificate 086-U (or 286-U) was required at admission. You can’t look at him without tears; And outfits to match the president - wrinkled and chewed. Go, the fashion designer serves one laughing .
        1. The black
          The black 2 February 2016 07: 24
          +2
          The fashion designer is definitely alone. He only sews on Petsu, and then Chugunkin wears it. laughing
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 2 February 2016 07: 49
            14
            Quote: Black
            The fashion designer is definitely alone. He only sews on Petsu, and then Chugunkin wears it.

            Fashion designer, definitely, an agent of Putin!
            1. The black
              The black 2 February 2016 08: 50
              +3
              laughing ... Poor Parashen Roshenko, you see dressing not only Klimkin, but also Dzhemilev and Mishiko. (Although the latter is too small) ... Mishka and Dzhemilev even have a tie for two (he already ate his own Moshka) laughing
        2. meriem1
          meriem1 2 February 2016 07: 40
          +2
          Quote: inkass_98
          I'm more interested in the other - how did he get two higher education? He was obviously the first to study full-time, the physicist was finishing, as far as I remember. And there the certificate 086-U (or 286-U) was required at admission. You can’t look at him without tears; And outfits to match the president - wrinkled and chewed. Go, the fashion designer serves one laughing .


          FizMat he finished. His B. B. Nadezhdin remembers well. Liberasty)). Friends for sure. Which is not even strange.
      3. vlad66
        vlad66 2 February 2016 07: 32
        11
        Quote: Black
        Looking at Klimkin's face, I just want to ask psychiatrists from Kursk, “guys, how did you manage not to notice such a moron?” This is your Client and according to the Hippocratic oath you are obliged to help him laughing

        He can be helped only by Comrade Sudoplatov with Ramon Mercader and an ice ax.
      4. Observer2014
        Observer2014 2 February 2016 09: 22
        +1
        "Klimkin considers partnership with Ankara to be the cornerstone of security in the Black Sea"
        Well, mine is already traditional: Baby (klimkin), you are a "geopalist" like a bullet from a kakuli.
      5. KVIRTU
        KVIRTU 2 February 2016 12: 11
        +1
        Why offend the Kursk doctors? laughing
        This Klimkin, by the way, graduated from the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology in 1991 (and at the time of his arrival, the MIPT did not take stupid ones).
        "After graduation, Klimkin got a job at the Paton Electric Welding Institute of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine (they also didn’t take fools there, then), where he worked as a researcher, he was in this post until 1993"
        Not, in general, pretends to be. Got American money - fulfills.
        I wanted to write: scum, pee pee ... but ... maybe our man is that? bully
    2. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 2 February 2016 07: 09
      +2
      Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
      Without a doubt, any cooperation in the areas of security and defense is possible. And the partnership of Ukraine and Turkey is truly the cornerstone of security in the Black Sea. It is necessary to fight for the future of this region to influence Russia.
      But Klimkin was silent now that Ukraine did not consider a navy at all, which means that the Turks will have to take on the whole security. Yes, and with the economy it was bad luck, they did not take into account the fact that the Turks did not know where to put their products after the Russian market closed for them, and then also Ukrainian goods. And even stable states do not risk investing in Ukraine, what can we say about Turkey, which itself needs money to close holes in the budget from Russian sanctions.
      But in political terms, there is complete harmony, now they will bark at Russia together and with unsubstantiated accusations pour down that Ankara, that Kiev is a master in this matter.
      No wonder they say, tell me who your friend is, and I will say who you are. Knowing what modern Ukraine is, you can only sympathize with someone who seriously plans to be friends with it. Although Turkey, in my opinion, deserves such a friend.
    3. SveTok
      SveTok 2 February 2016 07: 54
      +1
      First you need to at least have a fleet, to feel how the steppe with the cornerstone differs from the sea and then build relationships.
    4. Blondy
      Blondy 2 February 2016 08: 11
      0
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Erdogan pushed good grass

      But, anyway, he won’t give money.
    5. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 08: 37
      0
      Klimkin believes
      but in my opinion, he doesn’t know how to count ...
    6. Maks-80
      Maks-80 2 February 2016 09: 29
      0
      President drunk, Foreign Minister drug addict.
  2. Lyton
    Lyton 2 February 2016 06: 51
    +1
    Yeah, definitely Klimkin, the submarine fleet has already been built, we need to be afraid already.
  3. avvg
    avvg 2 February 2016 06: 53
    +1
    In addition to the Turks, Klimkin also needs to connect the Bulgarians, then it will turn out to be "three coal stone" of security in the Black Sea.
  4. cobalt
    cobalt 2 February 2016 06: 55
    +3
    Dill used to see such a leader Mazepoi at dill, he also liked to flirt with the Europeans (Swedes), then bend under the Ottomans, as a result, ended badly, but history has a habit of repeating itself.
    1. VP
      VP 2 February 2016 06: 59
      +1
      But the Swedes presented Mazepa with zhovtoblakitny ensign, tracing paper from the Swedish flowers emphasizing the subordination of Mazepa Karlushe-12. This is what the horses are shaking now.
  5. VP
    VP 2 February 2016 06: 56
    0
    About the fact that Ukraine is the strongest army in Europe, we are aware. Now also the strongest fleet or what?
  6. rov81
    rov81 2 February 2016 06: 58
    +1
    And that they really need to be afraid, personally, my ears already hurt me to listen to mystical news from them, including about the submarine fleet. There will be small submarines made of 200-liter barrels that can not only dive under water, but also fly in the sky.)))
  7. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 2 February 2016 07: 00
    +1
    Yes, these hoopoes are constantly with all sorts of ... partnerships "for the future of the region." One adolf is not good memory!
  8. Svetoch
    Svetoch 2 February 2016 07: 12
    +1
    He simply repeats other people's words, as indeed all those anthropoids in Ukraine who consider themselves politicians.
  9. izya top
    izya top 2 February 2016 07: 19
    +2
    Pavlo PinzhakNaVyrost forgot another very important ally to mention-igil
  10. sl22277
    sl22277 2 February 2016 07: 24
    +1
    Indeed, the Bandera supporters are no different from the Ishilovites - they are the same scoundrels, scum, sadists and murderers. Dill can share with their "Black Sea" friends the "invaluable" experience of getting into boilers. And killing their own citizens. Without any external aggression, without announcing anyone or wars, destroy their own citizens with the use of artillery and armored vehicles.
  11. Brutal
    Brutal 2 February 2016 07: 27
    0
    "... the cornerstone of security ..."
    Okay, I also understand: Turkey, there is at least a fleet there! And this utter brawl which place was going to provide security ?! fool
    1. brasist
      brasist 2 February 2016 07: 49
      +2
      So they last year, it seems like three or four boats were assembled there even a machine gun is available.

      The most important thing is to decorate with balls, it seems like it looks worse.
      1. VP
        VP 2 February 2016 08: 12
        +2
        Balls there are not for decoration but to increase buoyancy
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 2 February 2016 09: 00
        +1
        Quote: brasist
        brasist


        By the way, an ancient ship was found in Egypt during excavations. It’s not "chovn" whether it is dill.
        (cry.)
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 2 February 2016 09: 24
      0
      Quote: BRUTAL
      And this utter brawl which place was going to provide security ?! fool

      We, the Turks, will morally support them. wassat
  12. Alex ..
    Alex .. 2 February 2016 07: 28
    +2
    Ukrainians ... ISIS, these are Salafis, not Salophils. Therefore, it is not necessary to support them.
    1. VP
      VP 2 February 2016 08: 13
      +1
      I don’t care, both of them are not indifferent to pigs
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 February 2016 07: 36
    0
    “Establishing strong cooperation between Kiev and Ankara”

    The crawler finds the crawler quickly and they immediately have common interests. But as soon as it comes to falling into tartarara, they will immediately forget about friendship and agreements. Everyone will try to survive alone. But the regimes in these countries will not succeed.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 2 February 2016 08: 57
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The crawler finds the crawler quickly and they immediately have common interests.


      Remember the painting "The Cossacks are Writing a Letter to the Turkish Sultan"? Doesn't he say anything? Comedy and nothing else. bully
  14. TUNISIA
    TUNISIA 2 February 2016 07: 50
    0
    It is necessary to fight for the future of this region in order to influence Russia.

    Affect yourself on erogenous zones.
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 February 2016 07: 51
    0
    This position of Dill will lead to its occupation by the Turks in one form or another. First, Turkish ships will be registered in the Odessa port, then the dill will provide its airbases, then ... But what to do? I want to eat, but the Turks, they are God-a-aye! True, the money may not be very big, but a true svidomo is ready for a piece of bacon ... In general, these conversations resemble hangover delirium. Dill is clearly "pushed" into the back closet with its sorrows. So they cling to any opportunity to remind about themselves.
  16. Zomanus
    Zomanus 2 February 2016 07: 52
    0
    This is Ukraine, you can say and do anything there, if only against Russia.
  17. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 2 February 2016 07: 57
    0
    This is called, well, who is with us with a jamshoot? But Jamsut is naked!
  18. cap
    cap 2 February 2016 08: 17
    0
    "And the partnership between Ukraine and Turkey is a truly cornerstone of security in the Black Sea. It is necessary to fight for the future of this region in order to influence Russia."
    A good team is going, in addition to the existing one. They will go far, but rather reach the pen with the Turks together.
  19. drop
    drop 2 February 2016 08: 20
    +1
    Once I wrote an article "Betrayal or incompetence" for the readers of "VO", in which I tried to show how I personally (the Head of the Main Directorate of the USSR Ministry of Radio Industry) had to create and develop 80 enterprises in different cities of Ukraine in the 12s. In 1990, they employed 90 thousand specialists. Currently, these businesses are dead. At the Nikolaev shipyard, I had to accept our first aircraft carriers for aircraft with vertical takeoff and helicopter carriers. All is lost, now there are new "Mazepas" in the Ukraine and Turchinov at the "Leninskaya Kuznitsa" takes an armored boat. Why else has the plant not been renamed to some branch of the US plant.
    Ukrainians, what are you doing. After all, you will die and your children will be ashamed of you in the future. I have the honor.
  20. oracul
    oracul 2 February 2016 08: 21
    0
    I was surprised at those who set. + The rating of the "article" is practically zero, since there is actually no content in it. Just an informational message. Well, otherwise, the junta now lives according to the principle: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
  21. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 2 February 2016 08: 28
    0
    It is necessary to fight for the future of this region for impacts to Russia.

    Kiev’s blue dream is to influence Russia. Dreaming is not harmful.
  22. Svetlana
    Svetlana 2 February 2016 08: 30
    +1
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    Erdogan pushed good grass

    In my opinion, he says here: "It's not a mange pa sis zhur." And he looks so plaintively, drawing his hand ...
  23. askort154
    askort154 2 February 2016 08: 47
    +1
    But Zaporizhzhya Cossacks wrote a letter to the Turkish Sultan of a completely different content.
    Klimkin would have been sitting on an aspen stake.
  24. Lelek
    Lelek 2 February 2016 08: 53
    0
    (How is Klimkin, together with Turkish partners, going to fight "for the future of the region" (perhaps through Islyamov’s statements about another blockade of Crimea? Or by sending an embassy mission in the form of Dzhemilev to the Turks?)

    Well, this is unlikely. Islyamov crashes and goes bankrupt. The Turks, of course, can toss him some money from those 3 lard Eureka, which the EU allocated to them to "stop" the flow of migrants, but this is also problematic, because Turkey now has a lot of tension with pinions.
    (cry.)
  25. Stinger
    Stinger 2 February 2016 09: 25
    0
    The gang was ripe. Quickly found brothers in mind.
  26. Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 February 2016 09: 26
    0
    And this crap shit in general studied at school, at least he read about the hot relations of the Cossacks with the Turks. How they cuddled in battles, how the Turks took the children and girls to the brim, how the Cossacks caught up in the canoes and thanked them with peaks and sabers. And against whom is this idiot going to be friends with the Turks? Turks respect enemies, especially strong ones, but never traitors.
  27. Dimontius
    Dimontius 2 February 2016 09: 55
    0
    but imagine for a moment that suddenly Moscow became friends with the whole world at once !! And with whom then would Ukrainians be friends? After all, there would be no one to be friends against us! request