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Reduction of Azerbaijan’s military spending will not reduce risk of new war

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Reduction of Azerbaijan’s military spending will not reduce risk of new warAzerbaijan has to drastically reduce its military budget by almost 40%. This is happening against the background of growing social tensions, protests that have to be tamed with the help of internal troops, and regular skirmishes on the confrontation line with Nagorno-Karabakh. How will the sequestration affect the republic’s army, the dream of a military revenge over Armenia?


The Ministry of Finance of Azerbaijan published information according to which total defense expenditure in 2016 decreased by 39,7%. The main expenses even formally increased by 3,3% (in the budget execution forecast by as much as 4,4%), but so-called suffered. “Special projects and activities”. Since 2011, this budget line has been an integral part of the total defense expenditures of Azerbaijan and has always fluctuated around 40% of the total military budget. Now it's just not there.

“The enemy suffered significant losses during the year. The enemy is in a panic, he retreats, looking for a place to hide. Our soldiers are confronted with the only combat mission - to chase the enemy everywhere. ”

The military expenditures of the republic have steadily increased in recent years, both in absolute figures and as a percentage of GDP. 2011 was the peak year when, against the background of a favorable energy situation, Baku spent 6,2% of GDP on the army and “special projects”. At the same time, the army itself was constantly reformed and modernized. Baku sought to create a more effective system of ground forces than the one that was inherited from the Karabakh war. For this purpose, ground forces were reduced to 66 950 people (from 85 thousands to 2005), divided into 5 army corps (one in Nakhichevan) of different staff and the National Guard as an independent reserve unit. At the same time, purchases of modern weapons began, mainly from Russia, although part of the armored vehicles was obtained from Slovakia, Ukraine and Belarus.
The Azerbaijani Air Force modernized less actively than the ground forces, and the Russian Federation practically did not participate in this. Modern park aviation It consists mainly of aircraft purchased in Ukraine at a time when Kiev sold everything that lay bad (16 MiG-29 and 12 Mi-24 helicopters), in Kazakhstan (8 MiG-25), Belarus (6 Su-25 ) and Georgia (13 Su-25). Finally, starting in 2010, an independent production of Su-25 from Georgian components began at the assembly plant in Sumgait.

Most likely, the reduction of budget financing will affect precisely arms purchases and plans for a gradual transition to its own production facilities in the military-industrial complex. In particular, it may “hang up” an ambitious contract with Israel for the supply of two divisions (8 installations) of the Iron Dome PTL system, signed back in 2013 year. Over the past five years, Israel has become the largest military-industrial partner of Azerbaijan. It was with Israeli firms that agreements were reached on the construction of modern military-industrial complex plants in the republic and the production of military equipment. I earned while one, producing drones according to the Israeli license. But negotiations on the production of a new BTR "Namer" are also likely to be postponed until better times.

On its own, Azerbaijan is now able to produce a 107-mm caliber RZSO and missiles for them, battalion mortars (jointly with South Africa), a local analogue of the Kalashnikov assault rifle (Izhmash supplies components), the Istiglal sniper rifle, suspiciously similar to Turkish, lightly armored vehicles and a trifle - silencers, anti-mine devices, night sights, artillery shells. There were reports that Azerbaijan was invited by Turkey to participate in work on a tank Altai But the new Turkish tank has already been demonstrated, and Azerbaijan was not there. It was also planned to begin (with the help of the same Israel and Turkey) the modernization of the old T-55 tanks taken out of service in order to turn them into a variety of tracked vehicles (Israel is a great specialist in such alteration of captured equipment). But all this in the coming year, apparently, will not grow together.
The only training and rearmament program that will not be sequestered is cooperation with NATO. First, NATO itself pays, and, secondly, the scope of this program is surprisingly small. For example, the contingent of Azerbaijani soldiers, sent before the New Year in Afghanistan, amounted to the entire 42 man. Another thing is the training of military and students in foreign educational institutions. At the same time, Russian, Ukrainian, and Georgian were excluded from the list of universities whose education provides a deferment from military service or a military department.

The constant decline in oil production against the backdrop of a global fall in energy prices has seriously undermined the economic opportunities of Azerbaijan as a whole, and not only in the military sphere. In the last month, against the background of the crisis, unrest began in the frontal zone and among the Talysh, a national minority living in the south of the republic. Some localities even had to send in internal troops and use tear gas and batons against local residents.

In parallel, rumors of future cuts and layoffs began to spread among officers and soldiers of the Armed Forces. For example, it was reported that in 2016, military salaries would be reduced. The Ministry of Defense had to officially deny these rumors and argue that the opposite is true: the monetary allowance has even been increased since the beginning of the year. This was achieved due to “changes made to the staff structure of the central office and headquarters”. “Optimization has been achieved (as in the text - approx. LOOK), due to which the salaries of servicemen increased, the social security base for the personnel and their families was strengthened.” In common people, “changes in the staff structure” and “optimization”, due to which salaries have increased, are usually referred to as staff reductions, in which part of the salaries reduced are distributed among the rest.

As for the strategic plans, the Minister of Defense Zakir Hasanov, speaking on 29 last December to the graduates of the Training Center of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan, called the “liberation of the occupied territories” a “key task”. For this, the army, according to him, today has all the means, including the most modern weapon. “The initiative at the front is on our side. As a result of the combat readiness, the strength of the weapon, the exact strike of the Azerbaijani soldier, the enemy suffered significant losses during the year. The enemy is in a panic, he retreats, looking for a place to hide. Our soldiers are confronted with the only combat mission - to chase the enemy everywhere, find him and destroy him. Real military power of Azerbaijan allows it, ”he said.

At the same time, even official reports weekly report losses on the contact line. Only this January, the Azerbaijani army put into operation three new military units in the front-line zone, and it looks like no reduction in military spending is affecting this. Both sides regularly refute each other, underestimate their losses and inflate others, but on the whole, the situation on the Karabakh front remains clinically dangerous. For example, over the New Year week, Azerbaijani propagandists counted 15 killed Armenian soldiers and only two Azerbaijani. A "Armenian drone" was shot down with about a squadron.

Baku’s military spending should be estimated not simply in numbers or percentages of GDP. This would be an ordinary political calculation, which is applicable, for example, to European countries with their budgeted parameters for military spending. In Azerbaijan, all such calculations should be compared with similar figures in Armenia, since the armed forces of Azerbaijan are a one-way structure. For many years they have been formed exclusively for revenge, their deployment, armament, training and, in the end, financial content are sharpened only for the confrontation with Armenia. They have no other tasks, including social ones, and therefore there is no point in applying customary, understandable and transparent views to assessing financial security.

It is also important to emphasize that the military budget of Azerbaijan has always been extremely opaque, which constantly gave reason for Western observers to indicate its high corruption. Military expenditures in the republic, which staked on the modernization of the remaining Soviet capacities, are often used as a political tool, which really increases its corruption at all levels.
In any case, even the official figures of Baku’s sequestered military budget are 10 times higher than all the military expenses of Armenia. Approximately this ratio in all quantitative indicators of the armed forces. The current reduction in military spending will not entail radical changes in strategic indicators, it can only slow down for a couple of years the pace of modernization of the armed forces. Armenia is on the path of tactical rearmament on the basis of the Russian systems (by the way, also producing its own Krunk drones, translated as “Crane”) and by increasing the professionalism of the officer corps.

As a result, the only direct consequence of the reduction of Baku’s military spending directly on the front line will be the chronic shortage of armored vehicles - the main military factor that has been restraining revanchist sentiments in the Azerbaijani armed forces all these years.
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  1. biserino
    biserino 2 February 2016 15: 16
    +7
    Azerbaijan is a potential natural ally of Turkey.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 2 February 2016 15: 25
      +4
      "Azerbaijanis as a whole are closest to the Tats, Kurds, Talysh, Dagestanis and Udins (KMD 1,33 and below). The greatest differences can be traced with the Ingush, Kabardian, Balkarian, Chechen, Karachai and Ossetian groups. Azerbaijanis are closest to the representatives of the Caspian (Indo-Pamir) and farthest from representatives of the Near-Asian (in this case, Caucasian) type. "


      Unlikely ....
    2. g1v2
      g1v2 2 February 2016 15: 27
      +5
      The Turks are very dissatisfied with Aliyev, and the West is already organizing a maidan by all indications. Aliyev understood everything correctly and began to improve relations sharply with us. But they are obviously trying to set up his army against him, in the case of the Maidan, it is likely that some units will oppose him if the Turks and the states promise something to them. Mattresses and Turks need Azerbaijan, but Aliyev doesn’t - the puppet on the throne will suit them more. hi
    3. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 2 February 2016 15: 28
      +4
      ... even the official figures of the sequestered military budget of Baku are 10 times higher than all military expenses of Armenia ...
      - That's just the Armenians are 20 times better at fighting. And where will the poor Azerbaijanis go?
    4. Yura
      Yura 2 February 2016 15: 32
      +1
      Quote: biserino
      Azerbaijan is a potential natural ally of Turkey.

      Erdogan and Aliyev, is there a difference? Yes there is a big one. Erdogan is not an ally of his country, but rather an enemy to her, as he can be an ally of Azerbaijan, except in words. And Aliyev at the same time knows perfectly well what Erdogan is, that is, NATO and the United States behind whose back this vile prankster is hiding, and whose drool is flowing in an endless stream when looking at Azerbaijani oil and gas.
      1. vex
        vex 3 February 2016 00: 58
        -2
        Aliyev is also more likely an enemy of his country, in addition, he is a Kurd by nationality and introduces Kurdish clans into all power structures. Without a twinge of conscience, they rob Azerbaijanis, which is why the latter are moving to Russian markets. But Ilham Aliyev is not a warrior (a deserter (hiding from the Karabakh war in Turkish casinos) and the son of a deserter (Heydar Aliyev hiding from the Great Patriotic War in the military enlistment office)), he understands that as soon as the fighting begins, the Armenians will throw off Azerbaijani troops in Kura.
  2. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 2 February 2016 15: 16
    +1
    And what modification of the MiG-29 in Azerbaijan tell me who knows?
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 2 February 2016 15: 22
      +1
      A number of experts believe that the purchased fighters belong to the 9-13 modification, which has been modernized with the installation of a new navigation system. The vehicles upgraded at the Lviv ARP can also use corrected aerial bombs and TV-guided air-to-ground missiles. And I think they have a clean fighter.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 2 February 2016 15: 45
      0
      14 MiG-29 purchased and modernized in Ukraine in 2006-2007.
      2 MiG-29UB delivered from Ukraine in 2009 and 2011.
  3. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 2 February 2016 15: 18
    0
    The Turks will help Azerbaydzhan-podsoyutut arms to fellow countrymen. However, if the ruble begins, then the Turks go there and their troops move.
  4. kapitan92
    kapitan92 2 February 2016 15: 21
    +5
    Alas! Everything is interconnected! The main export of Azerbaijan is hydrocarbons, and lower prices for them cannot but affect the country's budget.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 2 February 2016 16: 53
      +1
      Gold and foreign exchange reserves are small in Azerbaijan (for 12 years over 11bn.). They get quite a few, about 40 mil. tons - apparently a lot went into the army and the military-industrial complex. hi
      1. alone
        alone 2 February 2016 19: 39
        -1
        Quote: Kasym
        Gold and foreign exchange reserves are small in Azerbaijan (for 12 years over 11bn.).

        Kasim 11 billion is how to say the gold reserve + Currency reserve of the Central Bank of the Republic. Pure foreign exchange reserves from the sale of hydrocarbons of approximately 45 billion dollars.
  5. newcomer
    newcomer 2 February 2016 15: 25
    +4
    well and good. it means that a couple of years Azerbaijan will not go for revenge. This is an article. but in general Erdogan during a visit to Az. the republic announced plans of the Ottomans with Azerbaijan to resolve the Karabakh issue by military means. so the reduction of military. spending amid supporting the Ottomans looks ridiculous. and indeed this whole circle of Ottomans with neighbors is very unstable.
  6. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 2 February 2016 15: 30
    +6
    "According to Senka and a hat," in the sense of the military budget. Or maybe still try to reach compromise rather than revenge?
    1. Hello
      Hello 2 February 2016 15: 51
      +3
      Quote: LÄRZ
      But maybe, after all, try to reach a compromise rather than a revenge by negotiating with Armenia?

      Too much blood. There are no common ground for negotiations. IMHO
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 2 February 2016 16: 01
        +3
        Quote: Hello
        . There are no common ground for negotiations.

        So that? So Azerbaijan über alles?
  7. Hello
    Hello 2 February 2016 15: 35
    +3
    I do not agree with the author about the one-sidedness of the Azerbaijani army and the tasks that are set for it. Of course, Armenia’s main opponent for them is logical, but they don’t forget about the Caspian Sea, as well as they are wary of Iran. In general, my friend, who worked a little over a year in Azerbaijan, speaks very positively of their army.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 2 February 2016 17: 21
      +6
      I do not want to offend you, but from Russia everything seems a little different. We Azerbaijanis have succeeded in trade, small business, wherever you can make money without hard physical labor and perseverance. Therefore, it is difficult to believe in the stubborn and selfless Azerbaijani military, fighting on equal terms with the best armies in the world. If only to count the potential enemy. Or to make poor-quality repairs to him in the barracks, and the Moldovans will do it, and the Azerbaijanian will lead, who will eventually deceive both the customer and his workers :)
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 2 February 2016 18: 08
        +2
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        . We Azerbaijanis have succeeded in trade, small business, wherever you can make money without hard physical labor

        I bought from an Azerbaijani friend in the market. Me: "How much?" He: "100" I: "I take it." And he was so offended: "Why do you take it so immediately ?! Let's bargain!" smile
      2. alone
        alone 2 February 2016 19: 43
        +2
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        I do not want to offend you, but from Russia everything seems a little different. We Azerbaijanis have succeeded in trade, small business, wherever you can make money without hard physical labor and perseverance. Therefore, it is difficult to believe in stubborn and selfless Azerbaijani military, fighting on equal terms with the best armies of the world

        Well, what you see from Russia does not mean that things are like that. Azerbaijan is not a world power. Azerbaijan is not the United States, not Russia, not China. And about the military, I want to upset you, unlike the 90s, the army is very decent
      3. Yeraz
        Yeraz 3 February 2016 00: 28
        +2
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        We Azerbaijanis have succeeded in trade, small business, wherever you can make money without hard physical labor and perseverance.

        ahahah))) you see in this thread you don’t know anything. There’s still some physical activity. Get up at 4 in the morning, buy goods and stand all day in the cold at the counter.
        The second side: to create powerful organized crime groups that shoot down competitors, hold this entire sector in their hands. And there are not one hundred people who died.
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        If only to count the potential enemy

        mdaaa ...
        1. sleeping sayan
          sleeping sayan 3 February 2016 01: 21
          0
          Get up at 4 in the morning, it is clear. To buy goods, and then resell?
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 3 February 2016 03: 54
            +3
            Quote: Sleeping Sayan
            Get up at 4 in the morning, it is clear. To buy goods, and then resell?

            Find at the right price and then stand all day to sell.
            But you will not see Armenians in such areas. Show business, hairdressers, stylists, geneticists, etc.
            Azerbaijanis occupy 4 niches in Russia.
            1. Trade, what does they have a monopoly on? In Oak, Ribbons and other super and hypermarkets, this is basically all of them.
            2. Criminal drugs, robbery, and other areas. It also requires perseverance and a willingness to die. A lot of people die.
            3.Police. But there is a limitation. Because of Islam and the OGL, you can’t get far in the service. Therefore, 90% are local police and opera. And these 2 are the most difficult professions because you have to work on the ground. You don’t have to be at home for days.
            4. And the sphere of taxi. Like taxi drivers themselves, so is the control of taxi companies.

            As you can see, physics, perseverance, arrogance, cunning and a willingness to die and kill are everywhere. It’s hard to blame Azerbaijanis for their tenderness and unwillingness to work.
            1. andj61
              andj61 3 February 2016 08: 29
              +2
              Quote: Yeraz
              Azerbaijanis occupy 4 niches in Russia.

              You know, Ali is similar, but not quite. Trade - chain companies - perhaps, but the basis is market wholesale and small wholesale, as well as retail. There is crime, but the North Caucasians and Georgians are ahead, and obviously. The police are also people, but there are many more of them in less “dusty professions” - judges, prosecutors, customs, tax, treasury.
              And there is a very strong gap among Azerbaijanis, downright split. Some are highly educated intellectuals - "Baku residents" (although there are such people not only from Baku), others are an obvious "village". It seems that even from another country, it is very similar to the outback of Central Asia. In everyday life, we most often come across the latter, therefore, our ordinary people often have a negative opinion of all Azerbaijanis. But it happened so.
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 3 February 2016 17: 01
                +1
                Quote: andj61
                There is crime, but the North Caucasians and Georgians are ahead, and obviously.

                No, you are mistaken. I perfectly know the structure of criminality. I even defended the diploma about the Azerbaijani organized crime groups.
                North Caucasians at the moment are striking force, young athletic guys. Azerbaijanis and Georgians have already risen to a higher level. These are already solid uncles with big business. Especially in the drug industry, the most profitable are 3 leaders Azerbaijan, Pamiri and Gypsies.
                Quote: andj61
                And there is a very strong gap among Azerbaijanis, downright split. Some are highly educated intellectuals - "Baku residents" (although there are such people not only from Baku), others are an obvious "village". It seems that even from another country, it is very similar to the outback of Central Asia.

                This is so. I belong to the second category. I’m not a Bakinets. But in St. Petersburg among more than half of the professors of Azerbaijanis are from my region. In Russia, in reality, the village is the weakest. Since the strongest, both in education, in physical terms, and the most united have seized niches there. This is my Erazy clan i.e. Armenian Azerbaijanis and Nakhchivan.
                In Russia, they are Shamkir monopolists among merchants of Azerbaijanis and are well represented in the organized crime group. The most daring, most of the robberies, murders are they. But the least united. Killing each other is normal for them. Even representatives of the 1st village kill. This is not inherent in others Azerbaijanis. And the least you see is among Erazov and Nakhchivan.
                Talyshs are more of a drug. Well-knit and violent. The second quality is their minus, with proper thinking, they would have achieved more than now.
                And Georgian Azerbaijanis are leaders and controllers of car thefts in Russia, owners of the majority of car dealerships through which these cars are laundered and the money received from them. The most slippery and not reliable. But united.
      4. ramin_serg
        ramin_serg 3 February 2016 08: 46
        +1
        don't judge everyone like that
        I also know a lot of Russian drinkers 9 almost (all my friends), but unlike you, I do not claim that all Russian drunks
    2. ramin_serg
      ramin_serg 3 February 2016 08: 43
      0
      Respect

      I read and wonder how I served in the Azerbaijan Army, and these sorrow commentators know me more

      1. all Azerbaijani tanks including the T-90 modernized (sight, mainframe, etc.)
      2. The air force has been modernized and more importantly, pilots are constantly flying and improving + constant military exercises
      3. Most importantly, the moral and patriotic spirit is much higher than before.
      1. sleeping sayan
        sleeping sayan 3 February 2016 10: 08
        0
        3-point. Spirit, he either is or is not. But not so, now he is much higher than before. Why he was not there and where he came from now. Probably borrowed?
  8. Mjohn
    Mjohn 2 February 2016 15: 50
    0
    Quote: Hello
    By far the main opponent for them is Armenia

    That's just the Russian markets lick with the Armenians just so laughing
  9. sleeping sayan
    sleeping sayan 2 February 2016 16: 01
    +6
    Azerbaijanis do not have a military spirit, but have the spirit of a market merchant. Nothing and nothing in the future war will help Azerbaijanis but themselves. They were also helped by the Hekmatyar Turks and Pashtuns, but not horse-drawn oats. Jews incidentally love to trade no less than Azerbaijanis.
    1. Hello
      Hello 2 February 2016 16: 55
      0
      Quote: Sleeping Sayan
      Azerbaijanis do not have a military spirit, but the spirit of a market trader

      Said the great warrior lol
      Quote: Sleeping Sayan
      Jews incidentally love to trade no less than Azerbaijanis.

      I don’t know how to help you in this attack, who is worse than Jews or Azerbaijanis.
      wassat
    2. andj61
      andj61 2 February 2016 16: 57
      0
      Quote: Sleeping Sayan
      Jews incidentally love to trade no less than Azerbaijanis.

      So what? It does not bother them to fight! laughing
      In general, talking about military spirit is possible only with comparable forces. The spirit will help - but Armenia will not be able to defeat the war, however, like Azerbaijan. Wash with blood in case of conflict, both parties.
      Therefore, it is simply necessary to agree. The solution to the Nagorno-Karabakh problem should be postponed for 50-100 years: let the descendants deal with it. Karabakh - under joint management - or UN management - as agreed. The territories of Azerbaijan proper occupied by Armenia should be returned by providing a transport corridor in Karabakh. And then - to live and cooperate, as befits the neighbors. To solve the problem, at least in this vein, is beneficial to everyone.
      1. Hello
        Hello 2 February 2016 17: 43
        0
        Greetings Andrew
        Quote: andj61
        Therefore, it is simply necessary to agree. The solution to the Nagorno-Karabakh problem should be postponed for 50-100 years: let the descendants deal with it. Karabakh - under joint management - or UN management - as agreed. The territories of Azerbaijan proper occupied by Armenia should be returned by providing a transport corridor in Karabakh. And then - to live and cooperate, as befits the neighbors. To solve the problem, at least in this vein, is beneficial to everyone.

        I think you are right, but it is unlikely to succeed, there is too much blood between the two peoples, too much distrust is unlikely to be simultaneously two authoritative politicians on both sides who have the courage and margin of safety to make such decisions request
        1. andj61
          andj61 2 February 2016 20: 12
          +1
          Greetings, Ilya! Indeed, this is unlikely. For this, the authorities in both countries must have authoritative politicians. But even this is not enough - these politicians should be dictators who would not allow the slightest criticism of their actions. There are no such leaders in either country. If the current leaders try to agree even in this vein - most likely, this will be their last decision as political figures. No.
          But, at least, it is necessary to speak at least about the possibility of a treaty - so that this treaty once becomes a reality.
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        3. Weyland
          Weyland 3 February 2016 00: 41
          0
          Quote: Hello
          unlikely to succeed, too much blood between the two peoples, too much distrust


          "too much" - is this comparable to how much blood is between the Germans on the one hand - and the Russians, Jews, Belarusians - on the other?
          And as for the fact that
          Quote: Hello
          there are hardly two authoritative politicians on both sides at the same time

          - here you are right!
      2. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 2 February 2016 18: 39
        0
        Right! A thin world is always better than a good quarrel!
    3. alone
      alone 2 February 2016 19: 45
      0
      Quote: Sleeping Sayan
      Azerbaijanis have no military spirit


      Are you an apparatus for measuring military spirit?

      Quote: Sleeping Sayan
      They were helped by the Turks and Pashtuns of the Hekmatyar, but not in the horse oats


      There wasn’t such an army then. There was no unified command, unified support. In this case, no one is an assistant
      1. Hello
        Hello 2 February 2016 19: 51
        0
        Quote: lonely
        Are you an apparatus for measuring military spirit?

        And then from the sofa, I don’t want to measure. It seems to me that Borya has recently been removed. A sofa warrior, a veteran of 5 conflicts, a dragger of Jews for paisas and just a good man. There’s not such a HUMANITY. wassat
        1. sleeping sayan
          sleeping sayan 2 February 2016 20: 44
          +1
          And you, the terrible Borya pulled for the paisans? Really, humane!
      2. sleeping sayan
        sleeping sayan 2 February 2016 20: 16
        0
        The military spirit is not measured by devices, such as: artificial kidney, pressure measurements. The military spirit is brought up: at home, at school (in owls, time) by the personal example of a father, grandfather of a front-line soldier-2 of Belarus (not Tashkent) Remember, a pioneer squad named: Leni Golikov, Vali Kotik, Zina Portnova. It is unlikely that anyone in Azerbaijan remembers them.
        1. alone
          alone 2 February 2016 20: 35
          +4
          Quote: Sleeping Sayan
          The military spirit is not measured by devices, such as: artificial kidney, pressure measurements. The military spirit is brought up: at home, at school (in owls, time) by the personal example of a father, grandfather of a front-line soldier-2 of Belarus (not Tashkent) Remember, a pioneer squad named: Leni Golikov, Vali Kotik, Zina Portnova. It is unlikely that anyone in Azerbaijan remembers them.

          The Republic during the Great Patriotic War lost about 300 thousand of its sons and daughters. The conflict began when the USSR existed as a state. All of us passed through pioneer detachments. And our detachments were called by the names of pioneer heroes. Maybe we shouldn’t be pathetic here? We are not to blame that Humpbacked turned out to be a rag and could not solve the problem under the Soviet constitution.
  10. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 2 February 2016 17: 01
    +6
    "The enemy suffered significant losses during the year. The enemy is in panic, he is retreating, looking for a place to hide. Our soldiers have only one combat mission - to pursue the enemy everywhere, find him and destroy him. The real military power of Azerbaijan allows this" "

    Well said, bastard!;) Why then are Azerbaijanis not in Yerevan still?
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 2 February 2016 18: 45
      +4
      Ay dear, faith does not allow. The infidels in Yerevan.
    2. alone
      alone 2 February 2016 19: 47
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Well said, bastard!;) Why then are Azerbaijanis not in Yerevan still?


      Would this make you feel better? Why do we need Yerevan? Can you explain to me?
  11. DMM2006
    DMM2006 2 February 2016 17: 11
    +3
    Quote: Sleeping Sayan
    Azerbaijanis do not have a military spirit, but have the spirit of a market trader.

    I agree with my colleague. Never, these either Eastern Turks or Northern Iranians (Turkey and Iran have not yet decided, and no one was going to ask Azerbaijan) did not differ in fighting spirit. The atrocities in Sumgait were celebrated gloriously, quite in the spirit of their Turkish brothers. But as soon as the Armenians got together and more or less arm themselves, they poured the Azerbaijanis on the most do not indulge. And if they once again climb, they will pour in a new one, and you see, we will help "volunteers", because not figs with our enemies, behind our back to flirt.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 2 February 2016 18: 44
      +3
      I served in the Army for a long time and I firmly understood that Azerbaijanis are brave guys, seven are not afraid of one! And if one on one - where does this courage go, it's even surprising, they immediately "forgive, I swear by my mother"!
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 2 February 2016 20: 24
        +3
        Oh dear! I knew the same in the SA of the ensign Avtandil. And among the Russians to look for such flint. They were friends. He is not from the market, "I swear by my mother" I did not hear from him. The sprout was a meter long with a cap, but he beat silently on the spot. Don't generalize, painful mistakes are possible.
  12. sleeping sayan
    sleeping sayan 2 February 2016 17: 43
    +7
    I’ll tell you again. In 1994, in the summer. He was dismissed from the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation at the end of his military service. All military personnel and civilians were then sent aboard IL-76 (cattle truck) to the common people. Dushanbe-airfield Chkalovsky. The Azerbaijanis stopped several times and tried to recruit to serve in the Azerbaijani army for money. A little later, on the way home to Novosibirsk, he saw a crowd of young Azerbaijanis who were hiding in Russia from military service in the Azerbaijani army, they were escorted by the Azerbaijani military or the cops. with brave Armenians, it’s better to run away to relatives in Russia and sit out.
    1. alone
      alone 2 February 2016 19: 56
      +3
      Quote: Sleeping Sayan
      Why fight with the brave Armenians, it is better to run away to relatives in Russia and sit out.


      By the way, the 1994 Armenians in Russia were also hiding a lot. Bravery is not a national trait, but an individual trait. Do you think that in Russia they are all the brave ones? There are enough cowards everywhere.
      1. sleeping sayan
        sleeping sayan 2 February 2016 20: 22
        +1
        And since 94, this question has tormented me. Why did the Azerbaijanis ask us? You guys don’t want to serve for money in the Azerbaijani army. Who was in Chkalovsky knows how to get out of the checkpoint and from the checkpoint to the platform, where the train stops 10-15 minutes walk. During this time, we were asked three times.
        1. alone
          alone 2 February 2016 20: 31
          0
          Quote: Sleeping Sayan
          And since 94, this question has tormented me. Why did the Azerbaijanis ask us. The guys do not want to serve for money in the Azerbaijani army.

          Was it really incomprehensible that the republic was sorely lacking military specialists. I will give one example:
          Our warehouse was full of anti-tank systems, but there wasn’t any specialist who could use them. 90% of the conscripts of the republic served in construction battalions. And everyone knows what kind of service they are.
          By the way, the Armenian army also had many guest performers. I will not scream here that the Armenians did not fight, instead the Slavs, Negroes or the whole world fought. No one disputes the fact that the Armenians fought. But both sides used the Mercenaries. shortages of military specialists. It was just that our situation was catastrophic on this issue.
      2. ramin_serg
        ramin_serg 3 February 2016 08: 54
        +1
        yes brother even now (as Putin said) almost the entire population (more than 60%) are hiding in Russia
    2. ramin_serg
      ramin_serg 3 February 2016 08: 52
      0
      it’s not necessary to measure all with one arshin deserters are and always will be

      or do you have them?
  13. sleeping sayan
    sleeping sayan 2 February 2016 17: 51
    0
    By the way, unlike the well-known Tashkent front, there was a little-known Dushanbe front. Little is known about him, but he WAS.
  14. newcomer
    newcomer 2 February 2016 18: 00
    +9
    Living Armenians, never respected by Karabakh, will be given to either Azerbaijanis or shit. nym un. together? well you guys give. this can be affirmed only by those who do not know stories, or who do not want to know.
    1. sem_juver
      sem_juver 2 February 2016 20: 21
      +2
      I agree with you, a beginner, only being not in the subject can you assume this. Recently, they started talking about the Kurils, it’s like, "let's, together with the Yap, own the Kuriles under the supervision of the UN"! How to perceive such things? It's just utter nonsense!
  15. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 February 2016 20: 54
    -1
    Wai dear, the living will not give, the dead will not take. Wow, as he said, write it down soon!
    But seriously. Was there the USSR, when was there a massacre over the territory? Now you will cut each other until the end of the world. Abkhazians and Georgians, Ossetians and Georgians, Azerbaijanis and Armenians, in the direction of Central Asia and look terrible, darkness. "Only he is worthy of happiness and freedom, who every day for them, is ready to go to battle." The phrase is loud and proud. Only the battle is not for freedom, but for the slaughter. There was no need for it, for the life of the people. The peoples lived, grew and developed. One family. The Americans came and gave everyone "freedom" to do whatever they want. They will release the blood and devour everyone, both Armenians and Azeris.
    Time is compressed, it is not. One hour and knock knock brought you democracy. Oh, you went to bed, well, we’ll fix it ... Looks like they haven’t grown wiser or reread the story.
  16. newcomer
    newcomer 2 February 2016 21: 21
    +5
    mavrikli your sarcasm is inappropriate. After reading your comment, I still did not understand what exactly you wanted to say. about the collapse of the USSR is banal. about the arrival of amers, this incident that happened in Armenia will answer you. somewhere in the second half of last year, europeans came ... races in a desperate attempt to tear ra from the russian federation. the head of the commission asked the head of the foreign ministry of Armenia: “either you are for progress with Euro values, or you are for eastern stagnation.” the response of the head of the ministry: “we made our choice ten thousand years ago.” media say that the eurmons left offended.