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Matios about non-combat losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass

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During the ATO in the Donbass, non-combat losses of the Ukrainian security forces amounted to more than 1 thousand, reports Expert Online statement by the military prosecutor of Ukraine Anatoly Matios.




“Three regiments. More than a thousand people are non-combat losses in the ATO. The shooting of colleagues, careless treatment of weapons, injury that led to death, an accident, alleged heart disease, ”said Matios.

“Who works in the military medical commissions? The president? Not. The doctor of the district ambulance station, who for a hundred or two hundred hryvnia healthy Ivan made sick, and the patient who did not have the money to pay, sent to fight ... And now he came there and he drinks. There was a case when one “hero” threw a grenade into a stove on a drunken head. Thirteen people lay down! Where to write them? What Ukrainian wants to listen to? Poroshenko is to blame? Shokin to blame? Matios is to blame? But everyone shouts: “Dobrobaty pursue!”. The 54 man from the Aidar battalion was brought to criminal responsibility for sentences for committing common crimes. Robberies, robberies ... "Tornado" had to be stopped simply by force, hard and fast, "
stated the prosecutor.

On Friday, Poroshenko said that during the fighting in the Donbass 2269 soldiers were killed. “Defending Ukraine (in the Donbass), 2 269 of our soldiers were killed,” he said at the “Lesson of courage” with cadets and lyceum students in Kiev.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 January 2016 11: 56
    11
    So this must be added to the Petskoy figures!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 30 January 2016 12: 00
      +6
      On Friday, Poroshenko said that during the fighting in the Donbass, 2269 soldiers were killed. "Defending Ukraine (in the Donbass), 2 of our soldiers were killed"

      So this is half of those killed by drunkenness? This is tough, in the head of the military prosecutor of Ukraine! He, for an hour, himself is not one of "these"?
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 30 January 2016 12: 05
        16
        Brains are starting to melt ... Ukraine is not the CE Europe!
        And how it all famously began! Breakdowns and suicides begin ... We warned!
        1. The black
          The black 30 January 2016 12: 08
          12
          Warriors of the Light)) the unbroken cyborgs of the most combat-ready and powerful army in Europe cannot eat glass and smoke herbarium !!! This is all Kremlin propaganda am wassat )
        2. bort4145
          bort4145 30 January 2016 13: 36
          +2
          which for one hundred or two hryvnias of healthy Ivan made sick
          What the fuck .. Ivan? I would say Patro ...
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 30 January 2016 16: 02
          +5
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Brains are starting to melt ... Ukraine is not the CE Europe!
          And how it all famously began! Breakdowns and suicides begin ... We warned! [Media = https: //yout.be/i-_9gRBLV4]

          I would not believe about drug addiction, the national drink is nevertheless a burner. But the fact that there’s a mess and they take everyone who didn’t hide is for sure. And from here the result ..............
        4. NIKNN
          NIKNN 30 January 2016 17: 49
          +6
          Not combat losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - the trouble of the army Who is who ... The President sets an example, probably Petya will soon also fall into non-combat losses ... request
      2. lysyj bob
        lysyj bob 30 January 2016 12: 07
        +7
        Apparently, the prosecutor is not familiar with the "official" statistics, or does not have time to track, since the numbers change frequently, therefore announced "in fact." Soon he will be accused of treason.
      3. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 30 January 2016 12: 24
        25
        Synopsis of the military situation in Donetsk from the military commissar "Mage"

        After strong five-day shelling, the situation in our country intensified even more.
        Yesterday, January 28, at 15:50, a couple of mines flew along the Oktyabrsky microdistrict, after which a machine gun worked. At 16:50 the shelling was repeated, then at 17:50. Due to the fog, the UAV’s work was difficult, therefore the APU and the National Guard were not aiming, “over the areas”. In recent months, the entire disco with shelling began at 17:50, yesterday it all started only at 21:00, a short shelling from the rifle, after which the mortars worked, anti-aircraft guns and tanks hit a couple of times.
        Today, January 29, shelling began earlier. Hours from 15:00 were heard arrivals 82-mm min, less often 120-mm beat. One 120-mm mortar worked. Just like January 28, the shelling began at the beginning of every hour and after 10 minutes it stopped. In addition to mortars, AGSs, Utes, and grenade launchers worked.
        At about 17:50, another shelling began, but it did not stop after 10 minutes, but continued until 19 hours, with short breaks. Then there was a break for about 20 minutes, maybe they changed their position, maybe BC refueled. In general, from 19:20 to 20:30 APU fired from everything that can shoot and ride. He worked traditionally with the village of Peski, BMP, and several mortars.
        Another thing is strange, in all channels information about the shelling began to appear only at 20 o’clock. There are no marks on the map military.maps either. And people are worried, because from 17 p.m. until 19 p.m. there was really a continuous cannonade, the only thing that did not fly was the 152 mm caliber and Grad rockets.
        This afternoon was directly in Oktyabrsky. So, there are no concepts of “evening shelling” at all, constantly around the neighborhood, something flies. I walked from the car 150 meters around the neighborhood to the house while I was walking, I worked the machine gun twice, then two 82-mm mines arrived, the SPG-9 arrived, again a couple of short bursts from the machine gun, the anti-aircraft gun worked, the mine, another mine. And it's all in the afternoon.
        At 4 km from the airport, you can only hear mortars and tanks, the rifle is practically inaudible. And in 6 km you can hear only heavy artillery. People living there do not surf the Internet, but sit in basements; they live there around the clock. The militia defending Donetsk, too, will not write reports, they are not up to it. Therefore, people only hear the evening shelling of large calibers, and Basurin’s reports ... And there, in the suburbs of Donetsk, round-the-clock shelling and fighting. People living in the center of Donetsk, 10 km from the airport, do not even have a clue what is happening with us near the Airport.
        From 21:00 to the mortar and tank shelling of the suburbs of Donetsk, joined the heavy artillery of the Armed Forces. Every 30 seconds one shell arrives. Under fire the Petrovsky district, Staromikhailovka, Oktyabrsky, Airport, Spartak. Methodically destroyed, everything that people made and built in their life.
        While writing reports, I counted 16 arrivals of 120 mm mines.

        PS Heavy artillery shelling ceased at 23:30.
        All patience and health!

        1. lysyj bob
          lysyj bob 30 January 2016 13: 20
          11
          How can agreements be observed in such situations? They shoot at me, but can't I? They tied them hand and foot in "Minsk", and they themselves put them on all agreements. If you try to answer - there and then from all sides accusations of violation, and no one "fixes" THEIR violations, although everyone can see.
          Fortresses to you guys! Power is in the truth! And the truth is yours.
        2. Belarus
          Belarus 30 January 2016 13: 25
          +6
          Vladyka Sith, I believe you more than Basurina and Pushilin, who, if you listen, everything is almost normal and the shelling is not strong - on the principle of 2-3 mines it’s not shelling. I don’t understand, maybe the officials do not tell the truth because they don’t want to tear down some negotiations ???? So if, in fact, there are no negotiations, but there are only answers from the outside - go to -----.
          It’s hard to imagine how you can even reason and think there.
      4. Sharikov
        Sharikov 30 January 2016 12: 28
        +7
        Confirmation from that side:
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        2. nizrum
          nizrum 1 February 2016 10: 55
          0
          Who then shells?
      5. bronik
        bronik 30 January 2016 12: 33
        27
        "Ukraine must not be put on its knees! Vona yak lay with her face in shit, so I will lie .... And I can only take Europe and the United States, so I can put cancer .... I fuck. First, from behind! in the mouth, and in the ass! "

        Somewhere like that.
      6. Altona
        Altona 30 January 2016 13: 01
        +7
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        So it turns out half of those who died from drunkenness?

        --------------------
        Onizhedeti ... Grenades in potbelly stoves, shooting on drunken, robbery and violence ... Understand, forgive as on the Maidan. They themselves released the genie from the bottle. Didn’t they think how the overthrow of Yanukovych would end?
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 30 January 2016 22: 46
          +3
          Quote: Altona
          They themselves released the genie from the bottle. N



          There is only one way out - to let this "genie" into Europe. The burghers will be delighted, they will laugh. bully
    2. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 30 January 2016 12: 05
      +6
      Quote: aszzz888
      must be added to the petskin figures!
      -And when they FORCER to fight for a lie, conscience rebels. As a result, inadequate actions, a bunch of their corpses. I think the dill itself, anyway, will be fully asked from the oligarchs.
    3. gray_angel
      gray_angel 30 January 2016 12: 05
      +8
      And how many civilians were destroyed not a single stunt of the junta said ...
      1. Andrea
        Andrea 30 January 2016 12: 14
        +5
        The numbers are nice and reassuring. It turns out that punitive fights are only half as intense among themselves as with militias, unless of course you believe their statistics.
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      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 30 January 2016 12: 28
        +4
        More tysyachі vіyskovih pushed into the ATO is not in battle - Matos

        At that time ... as Pan Poroshenko accepts congratulations for the return of the Donbass and awards hero-cyborgs..this ideals of the Maidan slandered the strongest army on the continent ...laughing
        - Tse zrada, and in general shame, on the agent of the Kremlin!smile
    5. Sharapov
      Sharapov 30 January 2016 14: 13
      +6
      More than a thousand people are three regiments? It’s dill shelves so castrated, or the number is cut, and 3 combat regiments are about 3,5 bayonets.
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 30 January 2016 18: 47
        +3
        Quote: Sharapov
        More than a thousand people are three regiments? It’s dill shelves so castrated, or the number is cut, and 3 combat regiments are about 3,5 bayonets.

        Something tells me that the SME (in any case) was 2200 people, respectively 3 regiments - 6600, at least it should have been with the staff deployed.
        1. tolmachiev51
          tolmachiev51 31 January 2016 05: 49
          +1
          How many were caught, such and shelves !!!
      2. 1rl141
        1rl141 30 January 2016 20: 53
        +2
        I wanted to note the same thing. More than 1000 people, God forbid, 3 battalions.
      3. samoletil18
        samoletil18 30 January 2016 22: 40
        +2
        That they are cropped shelves fighting without deploying. Here only Lavrov remains to quote.
    6. your1970
      your1970 30 January 2016 21: 30
      +1
      "Three regiments. More than a thousand people" - when I served in the SA - it was called a regiment, well, two battalions maximum
    7. olegfbi
      olegfbi 31 January 2016 00: 40
      0
      There was a case when one "hero" threw a grenade into a potbelly stove on a drunken head

      For such things, even less tragic, in the army of the Russian Federation the commander is really beaten up, and then under the tribunal ... And this is normal !!!
  2. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 30 January 2016 11: 58
    19
    Flushing a potbelly stove with a grenade is harsh. laughing
    1. The black
      The black 30 January 2016 11: 59
      +9
      Yes, this is normal, for patients of the Kiev alcohol dispensary laughing
    2. kil 31
      kil 31 30 January 2016 12: 03
      +4
      There was a case when a "hero" threw a grenade into a potbelly stove on a drunken head. Thirteen people lay down! Where to write them down?
      No firewood, throw a grenade. laughing I've been thinking of the amazing efficiency of a potbelly stove with a grenade. Can sow minefields with potbelly stoves? Probably driving or dill came up with a new grenade. You need to get such a trophy and copy.
    3. LÄRZ
      LÄRZ 30 January 2016 12: 13
      +4
      No, well, cho, we drowned rockets from a rocket launcher, great! good Especially if you back the door to KUNG from the outside, so that no one would fall down ahead of time. laughing
    4. Andrea
      Andrea 30 January 2016 12: 19
      +8
      Primus pilus
      Flushing a potbelly stove with a grenade is harsh
      And what else to drown in the steppe? Only by improvised means! It is a pity that the "grads" do not fit into the stove, but it is quite possible to push an 82 mine. laughing
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 January 2016 12: 38
        +7
        It would be better if this fighter put a millimeter mine into a potbelly stove - the whole company would have warmed up and warmed up.
      2. _my opinion
        _my opinion 30 January 2016 19: 52
        +2
        Quote: Andrea
        Primus pilus
        Flushing a potbelly stove with a grenade is harsh
        And what else to drown in the steppe? Only by improvised means! It is a pity that the "grads" do not fit into the stove, but it is quite possible to push an 82 mine. laughing

        yeah, like in that joke - nothing that explodes, they still have smile
    5. tol100v
      tol100v 30 January 2016 12: 20
      +6
      Quote: Primus Pilus
      Flushing a potbelly stove with a grenade is harsh.

      They would have drowned MON-50, the calorie content is higher!
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 30 January 2016 12: 50
        +4
        And we, with TNT checkers, I remember. Drowned. Nothing, soot only a bit too much: =)
    6. veteran66
      veteran66 30 January 2016 21: 14
      +1
      Quote: Primus Pilus
      a grenade stove is harsh.

      in Chechnya, when there was no firewood in the okrug, it was necessary to heat with grenades. Burn well! Maybe he forgot to pull out a fuse or avenged someone?
  3. The black
    The black 30 January 2016 11: 58
    +9
    The shooting of colleagues, careless handling of weapons, mutilation that led to death, traffic accidents, supposedly heart disease, ”Matios said.
    ... general drunkenness laughing .... Matios will be declared an agent of the Kremlin. What a slap on the most powerful army in Europe. Ganba! laughing
  4. Simon
    Simon 30 January 2016 11: 59
    +4
    I, for some reason, did not understand that they are recruiting psycho-sick in the army or? belay Apparently the normal ones are already over laughing
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 30 January 2016 13: 13
      +4
      Quote: Simon
      normal already over


      Your untruth, they weren’t born there. laughing
    2. aba
      aba 30 January 2016 14: 31
      +2
      Not over, but scattered! wink
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 30 January 2016 17: 07
        +2
        Quote: aba
        Not over, but scattered!

        Or went to Russia what
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 January 2016 11: 59
    +4
    Something the military prosecutor opened up too much. This is not good.
    Three regiments. Over a thousand people

    Pulls on the regiment, but not like three. Although three would be better.
    1. sever.56
      sever.56 30 January 2016 12: 11
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Pulls on the regiment, but not like three. Although three would be better.


      Gennady, hello hi
      Yes, they have a gang of one hundred people a battalion calls itself names. So - there is nothing to be surprised ...
      "Cyborgs" Kuevskie!
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 30 January 2016 12: 24
        +2
        Hello Valery hi
        Totally agree with you. Their staffing schedule is lame, but for them the main thing is that the name sounds intimidating.
        1. sever.56
          sever.56 30 January 2016 12: 28
          +1
          As they say: - "Ponty is more expensive than money" ... wassat
    2. LÄRZ
      LÄRZ 30 January 2016 12: 16
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Pulls on a regiment, but not like three

      So these are Ukrainian regiments, they have a Ukrainian account. what
    3. Primus pilus
      Primus pilus 30 January 2016 12: 37
      0
      Probably it was the elven regiments, there is a different structure. smile
  6. sever.56
    sever.56 30 January 2016 12: 00
    22
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/866/sifl304.jpg

    laughing wassat wassat
  7. svp67
    svp67 30 January 2016 12: 01
    +1
    During the time of the ATO in the Donbass, non-combat losses of the Ukrainian security services amounted to more than 1 thousand people, reports Expert Online, a statement by Ukrainian military prosecutor Anatoly Matios.
    But interestingly, this 1 thousand plus those 2 thousand that Poroshenko announced?
  8. ochakow703
    ochakow703 30 January 2016 12: 06
    +3
    Interestingly, Ukrainians themselves understand why they put so much? For Petya with Senya? For Freedom and Independence? And from whom? From the Brains ???
  9. evil partisan
    evil partisan 30 January 2016 12: 09
    +5
    Poroshenko held a lesson in courage ?? wassat ... M-yes ... fool
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 30 January 2016 19: 03
      +3
      What a teacher, such is courage.
  10. V.ic
    V.ic 30 January 2016 12: 10
    +4
    Divide the testimony of (M) by / (P) and get = 0,44, multiplying by 100, we get non-combat losses of 44%. An objective indicator of the attitude of the Kiyovskaya Vlada (Europans) to their own population. Salo Dropped ... crying
  11. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 30 January 2016 12: 10
    +2
    And, I’m wondering: what kind of grenade was this, which, being thrown into a potbelly stove, 13 put clowns ?! Nuclear, go ...?! belay
    1. Nord2015
      Nord2015 30 January 2016 12: 21
      +2
      Quote: ALABAY45
      Nuclear, go ...?

      Well, thank God, they don’t have a nuclear bomb, otherwise they themselves would have been blown up. fool
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 January 2016 12: 21
      +2
      Quote: ALABAY45
      And, I’m wondering: what kind of grenade was this, which, being thrown into a potbelly stove, 13 put clowns ?! Nuclear, go ...?!

      Try F-ku in a limited space to blow up. what
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 30 January 2016 12: 33
        +2
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: ALABAY45
        And, I’m wondering: what kind of grenade was this, which, being thrown into a potbelly stove, 13 put clowns ?! Nuclear, go ...?!

        Try F-ku in a limited space to blow up. what

        But not 13 is the same person. Even if round dance pots round dance.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 30 January 2016 12: 44
          +2
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          But not 13 is the same person. Even if round dance pots round dance.

          If you drive close to the stove, it just won’t work, and 300 fragments is serious. request
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 30 January 2016 12: 58
            +2
            On the spot? I do not believe. Can they put a landmine there, instead of logs?
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    4. Primus pilus
      Primus pilus 30 January 2016 12: 27
      +1
      Quote: ALABAY45
      And, I’m wondering: what kind of grenade was this, which, being thrown into a potbelly stove, 13 put clowns ?! Nuclear, go ...?! belay

      Maybe this action took place in the dugout?
    5. evil partisan
      evil partisan 30 January 2016 13: 02
      +5
      Quote: ALABAY45
      And, I’m wondering: what kind of grenade was this, which, being thrown into a potbelly stove, 13 put clowns ?! Nuclear, go ...?!

      How everything is launched in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug what... What does not suit such a grenade:
    6. your1970
      your1970 31 January 2016 16: 01
      0
      ordinary F-1 - a cast-iron potbelly stove served as a fragmentation shirt repeat what fellow
  12. alone
    alone 30 January 2016 12: 12
    -13 qualifying.
    Any army has non-combat losses. Any. Non-Ukrainian, non-Russian, not American, even armies of smaller states have non-combat losses. Everyone is interested, many are happy that the Ukrointsy have non-combat losses of 1000 people. They even talk about it. And you do you all know what non-combat losses in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces are? Oh yes, these data are classified. Interestingly, what is the reason for this? The reason is the secretion of what exists around the world?
    1. alone
      alone 30 January 2016 12: 24
      -8
      Of course, you can minus it. But you can’t explain why it is classified.
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 30 January 2016 18: 51
        +6
        And what is secret?
        The Syrian losses - everyone was massaged in the media for more than a month, those who died in the Donbass - were also constantly covered in the local press, everything that happens - in exercises throughout Russia, all accidents - is constantly reported (I don’t read newspapers), I hear and see on TV . Even the whole figoten is illuminated - it is checked, refuted or confirmed, even obvious dumbness. And what other losses are you waiting for?
        1. alone
          alone 30 January 2016 22: 28
          +2
          Quote: Siberian
          And what other losses are you waiting for?

          I do not expect any losses. I just do not understand the joy of some. As if non-combat losses only in the Armed Forces.
    2. dauria
      dauria 30 January 2016 12: 38
      +7
      Any army has non-combat losses. Any.


      Sure. Moreover, in combat conditions, most of these losses are disguised as military for various reasons. (Including people think of relatives). The weapon is at hand, and nobody canceled the glass-bath days. I will never forget how the crowd stood silently in front of a drunken insane idiot with a distorted AK. Yes, and just carelessness, either under the screw, then under the wheels, then they ricochet, or the C-5 nurses will fly right in the parking lot (and this happened, do not be surprised)
      1. alone
        alone 30 January 2016 12: 42
        -5
        Quote: dauria
        or the C-5 Nurses will fly right in the parking lot (and this happened, do not be surprised)


        I’m not surprised. I saw a lot of this with my own eyes. Many here enthusiastically rejoice, because they have no idea what war is and what psychological state is after a battle.
    3. Colonel
      Colonel 30 January 2016 19: 14
      +3
      Quote: lonely
      Do you all even know what non-combat losses in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces? Oh yes, these data are classified.

      Listen, "lieutenant of the reserve of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan", how do you know this? You, on the next branch, said ten times today that you have nothing to do with Russia. Or the "laurels" of the professor and the atalef do not allow you to sleep peacefully and, therefore, on petty crap? By the way, we know about non-combat losses "in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces" and they, knowledge, do not give your anti-Russian "optimism" well, no soil.
      1. alone
        alone 30 January 2016 22: 26
        +4
        Quote: colonel
        Listen, "lieutenant of the reserve of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan", how do you know this?

        Tell me the fact that there are no such losses. Non-combat losses have all the armies. How many such losses were during the USSR? So patriotism is not an assistant here.
        Quote: colonel
        On a neighboring branch, you said ten times today that you have nothing to do with Russia.


        The site does not prohibit foreigners from entering here. This is a forum. Anyone has the right to express their opinion here. I do not like it - there is a black list.
        1. Colonel
          Colonel 31 January 2016 10: 46
          0
          Quote: lonely
          Show me the fact that there are no such losses

          Song!!! About further
          Quote: lonely
          Anyone has the right to express their opinion here.

          I don’t even want to talk.
  13. Nord2015
    Nord2015 30 January 2016 12: 15
    +4
    Normal natural selection. Defective individuals do not survive. Apparently, the diagnosis is "brain maidan". But Matios probably divulged military and state secrets.
  14. pts-m
    pts-m 30 January 2016 12: 15
    +3
    This cockpit coop, led by the chief killer-confectioner, could have scored more points if he had removed the troops from the atu zone. Who needs a meaningless war, probably only a chicken coop with beer houses.
  15. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 30 January 2016 12: 16
    +1
    The symbol of the army mess for me is the "Virgin Lands", which were formed back in the USSR for harvesting. In one I got to the urgent, in the other they called for partisans. Drunkenness, fights, violation of all safety standards led to constant death of personnel, was considered the norm 5 deaths for cleaning, within 3 months. I see the Armed Forces of Ukraine as a kind of conglomerate of virgin battalions.
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    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 30 January 2016 19: 40
      +1
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      The symbol of the army mess for me is "Virgin Lands", which were formed back in the USSR for harvesting

      Did the "virgin battalions" go to war? Whom the commander sent to harvest, well, not those who conscientiously carried out combat duty, but, to put it mildly, those who were slovens and a flyer (I hope this does not apply to you).
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      It was considered the norm of 5 deaths per harvest, within 3 months.

      Well, here is a complete lie, who was considered, where it was considered ... the order (directive) of the USSR Ministry of Defense, bring ... Any death of a serviceman, including those called up from the reserve, was investigated by the military prosecutor's office, including the hollows ... driving .. (died from drinking) ... but the commander is to blame, well, he did not see for the 35-year-old "partisan" ..
  16. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 30 January 2016 12: 17
    0
    Quote: ALABAY45
    And, I’m wondering: what kind of grenade was this, which, being thrown into a potbelly stove, 13 put clowns ?! Nuclear, go ...?! belay


    Russian.
  17. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 30 January 2016 12: 19
    +3
    Looks like pre-piclo-times generally admitted that the army ukroiny essentially engages in self-decomposition? They would have to read revolutionary books or leaflets with the call to "get the chocolate king", and "down with the salozhdisttsa" -and you can go take power.
  18. taseka
    taseka 30 January 2016 12: 24
    +2
    "54 people from the" Aydar "battalion have been prosecuted under sentences for committing common crimes. Robberies, robberies ..." Tornado "had to be stopped simply by forceful methods, harsh and fast" "- criminals and bandits !!! therefore they hide !!!
  19. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 30 January 2016 12: 33
    +5
    And you would not go to the ATO and you would not have either combat or non-combat losses. This is not Zarnitsa.
  20. Avantageur
    Avantageur 30 January 2016 12: 37
    +3
    Donbass will move in the same direction as Crimea. The illegality of the transfer of Donbass to Ukraine by Lenin has already been voiced by the president as an absurd decision, it is only a matter of time and the settlement of some issues with the body lying in the mausoleum ...

  21. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 January 2016 12: 39
    +2
    Somewhere the prosecutor is lying. Either the combat losses are significantly greater than Gunpowder announced. Not combat losses for an army of 60 thousand people (there are about two of them in the ATO zone) in the amount of two percent of the number? This is strong! With such a mess, sales of military equipment and unauthorized firing from heavy weapons "towards the enemy" are not surprising either. Dill will hiccup more than once when there are many of these warriors in society. Yes, with weapons "from the ATO zone" hidden "for the time being."
  22. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 30 January 2016 12: 39
    +4
    There was a case when one "hero" threw a grenade into a potbelly stove on a drunken head. Thirteen people lay down!


    Apparently, because of such peremog, even in the West they are wary of a strange military education called "APU"and do not want to give them weapons.

    And suddenly, a drunken hero from Javelin into a bullet to someone (in the darting little devils, mice, and other foul creatures). laughing
  23. sabakina
    sabakina 30 January 2016 12: 49
    +5
    Three regiments. Over a thousand people
    Platoon-The number of personnel of a platoon ranges from 9 to 50 people
    Company-In the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation the number of companies of the Airborne Forces is from 55 people and above, in motorized rifles - from 60 to 101 people
    Division — On average, 12 to 000 personnel are in a division. The division commander is Major General.
    Regiment-The number of personnel of the regiment in the armed forces and “power structures” is from 200 to 2000 military personnel (soldiers, sergeants, ensigns, officers) or persons with special ranks (Ministry of Internal Affairs) and civilian personnel (peacetime).
    Army Platoon, Company, Regiment
    Source: Wikipedia
    Even their shelves are dumb ....
  24. OlegV
    OlegV 30 January 2016 12: 51
    +2
    ....... The doctor of the district outpatient clinic, who made Ivan healthy for one hundred and two hundred hryvnias, sent him to the patient who had no money to pay ...

    I recall the beginning of the 90s, we had the same canoe, just don’t fight and sent to serve in the troops, and then sent in batches for commission ...

    and those who served on the urgent, remember ka weekends and holidays? the most sickening days, only some discipline saved me from the mess

    And in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there are no one who needs the fighters in FIG, so the mess is complete, and the fighters are ordinary boys and uncles who did not manage to cut off, will pay off and hide from mobilization ....
  25. HAM
    HAM 30 January 2016 12: 54
    +2
    Well, here’s official confirmation from the other side — they are shelling and destroying themselves, the DPR’s army has nothing to do with it, especially the RF’s army. What, Mlyn, aggressors, what a war with Russia!
  26. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 30 January 2016 12: 54
    +3
    they will shoot themselves soon without war
  27. vickul
    vickul 30 January 2016 13: 01
    +3
    So the Ukrainians made up the "backbone" of the army of Sashko Makedonenko. And in the Indian campaign they expanded the Indian Ocean and poured Sri Lanka. Sala to Ukraine, shroud heroes !!!
  28. Viking
    Viking 30 January 2016 13: 01
    +3
    Three WHILE - over a THOUSAND people? What kind of shelves are these? Company - 100-120 people, battalion - 300-350 people. Regiment - 1000-1200. person. And I wonder what they have THREE regiments of 300 people? Like the punitive "Azov" and "Donbass" (not to be mentioned at night)?
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 30 January 2016 13: 28
      +1
      The partisans from the * Front for the Liberation of Donbass and Luhansk region * report that they intend to poison Russian mercenaries who arrived in Donbass to fight for the terrorist * republics of the DNR-LNR * with vodka to save ammunition that they have to get in warehouses from the enemy or in battle.
      Who are they going to poison? Unclear.
    2. Viking
      Viking 30 January 2016 13: 54
      +1
      Correction - three SHELVES
  29. Vladimir-R
    Vladimir-R 30 January 2016 13: 24
    +3
    In the evening, reports appeared in the AntiAT group that the company of our special forces / Troy / .., where there is a conflict with the leadership of the DPR .., was attacked by the Stronghold using artillery .. It seems there has become a tradition to kill our volunteers ..
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 30 January 2016 13: 31
      +2
      First, in the LPR, to the delight of dill, those who wanted power for the people were shot, and now, apparently, they took to the DPR to the joy of the punitive to remove those who fought for popular power for the people.
      All of this is very sad and gives rise to unpleasant thoughts about the further "course of the negotiations."
  30. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 30 January 2016 14: 11
    +1
    Quote: Primus Pilus
    Flushing a potbelly stove with a grenade is harsh. laughing



    The harsh fun of the harsh heroes of the ATO. A grenade is thrown into a potbelly stove with the words - who survived is moskal!
  31. Margadon
    Margadon 30 January 2016 14: 50
    +1
    Three regiments. Over a thousand people


    Yes. They even have funny shelves. We had a battalion of 700 people.
  32. Altona
    Altona 30 January 2016 15: 15
    +3
    Here is the correct predator of the Fatherland.
  33. Papapg
    Papapg 30 January 2016 15: 43
    +2
    Quote: sabakina
    Army Platoon, Company, Regiment
    Source: Wikipedia
    Even their dumb shelves ....

    And in the war for three years, well, the regiments think so.
  34. Belarus
    Belarus 30 January 2016 16: 17
    0
    Well, the name of this figure is Matios, just like the matyat Matyas laughing
  35. gozmos
    gozmos 30 January 2016 18: 30
    0
    But who dill draft in the army? who did not have time to leave and half crippled)))
  36. Orionvit
    Orionvit 30 January 2016 19: 45
    +2
    Quote: Andrea
    The numbers are nice and reassuring. It turns out that punitive fights are only half as intense among themselves as with militias, unless of course you believe their statistics.

    He simply removed the zero from his number and divided it into two. This is not statistics, but arithmetic.
  37. PValery53
    PValery53 30 January 2016 23: 20
    +1
    Society and its army degrade if they solve unrighteous tasks. The example of Ukraine confirms this absolutely. All the same, the Bander will be demolished into oblivion on the territory of Ukraine. A matter of time, historically short-lived.
  38. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 31 January 2016 06: 23
    +1
    "Three cigarette cases, three imported jackets, three tape recorders ... All that is acquired by back-breaking labor!" (from). This is just the beginning! The monkeys with grenades that shot down the Malaysian Boeing, destroying the civilian population of Donbass will soon destroy themselves, as they have already destroyed what used to be Ukraine. That's where they go!
  39. vic58
    vic58 31 January 2016 07: 10
    +2
    - I watched "Planet of the Apes: The Revolution" yesterday.
    - Well, how do you like it?
    - Yes, a pathetic semblance of news from Ukraine.