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General Brenstrom: Sweden will be drawn into a war with Russia

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Militant rhetoric does not subside in Sweden. Anders Brenstrom, the commander of the ground forces, said that the country needed to prepare for war with the Russian Federation, reports Ридус.




“The security situation that we are facing now makes me think that within a few years we may be involved in the war,” Brenstrom wrote in the introductory part of his pamphlet prepared for the February teachings of the Swedish army.

He calls "to raise the spirit of the military and strengthen the cohesion of the ranks of the personnel of the armed forces."

The same opinion is shared by the head of the parliamentary defense committee, Allan Widman. “Sweden after 200 years of peaceful life should be morally prepared for a possible military conflict with our participation,” said the Swedish legislator.

He recalled that "Sweden is not part of the NATO bloc," but "is experiencing military aggression from Russia."

According to Widman, a possible conflict with the Russian Federation could break out due to certain economic problems.

In September, the head of the Swedish Foreign Ministry, Margot Wallström, announced the “serious problems in relations between Stockholm and Moscow.” “The relations between the two countries have never been so tense,” she noted.
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  1. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 30 January 2016 11: 36
    +7
    There was a halva for gays chasing! In Sweden you need to come with rubber gloves and with an ax in your hands
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 30 January 2016 11: 39
      25
      The army commander Anders Brenström also made his contribution.


      The same opinion is shared by the head of the parliamentary defense committee Allan Widman.


      You won’t get involved, no one will pull you ... request

      a possible conflict with the Russian Federation may erupt due to some economic problems.

      Do not wish someone else ... request
      1. bort4145
        bort4145 30 January 2016 11: 44
        19
        He calls
        None of the history of their country do not know.
        Sweden in World War II
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 30 January 2016 12: 09
          +5
          The army commander Anders Brenström also made his contribution.

          When the commanders in the Armed Forces of various countries in a corrupt manner are sitting on “kickbacks” from the purchase of weapons from the US military-industrial complex, then the war, in the end, will definitely be. After all, it is impossible to buy weapons indefinitely, and military officials want “kickbacks” - and they cannot refuse to enrich themselves from them!
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 30 January 2016 13: 20
            36
            Quote: Tatiana
            When the commanders in the Armed Forces of various countries in a corrupt manner are sitting on “kickbacks” from the purchase of weapons from the US military-industrial complex, then the war, in the end, will definitely be. After all, it is impossible to buy weapons indefinitely, and military officials want “kickbacks” - and they cannot refuse to enrich themselves from them!

            ... they have this song and hysteria since the age of 12 with different intensities .. oh, I found ours made a good joke on their minister of defense .. laughing
          2. zennon
            zennon 30 January 2016 19: 05
            10
            Quote: Tatiana
            When the commanders in the armed forces of various countries are sitting in corrupt ways on “kickbacks” from arms purchases from the US military-industrial complex,

            Well, the Swedes here are the docks themselves! I remember in India there was a terrible scandal:
            On March 24, 1986, the Swedish arms company Bofors and the government of India, led by Rajiv Gandhi, signed a trade agreement for the supply of 410 howitzers of the FH-77B type for a total of $ 1,2 billion (which amounted to about 14 billion Indian rupees). As it turned out later, company representatives paid bribes to people from Gandhi’s inner circle, and thus ensured that members of the government supported the conclusion of a contract with them. During the investigation, the total amount of bribes was estimated at 60 million dollars. Due to this scandal, the Indian National Congress party lost in the 1989 elections, and Rajiv Gandhi lost his post of prime minister. The illegal Beaufors operations, according to one version, led to the assassination of Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme on February 26, 1986.
            1. andrewkor
              andrewkor 31 January 2016 16: 07
              +1
              And in Uzbekistan "Terra Sonera" tried to steal MTS. There was a bribe of 300 lyamas. Now MTS has returned under the UMS brand.
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        3. Alf
          Alf 30 January 2016 16: 15
          15
          Quote: bort4145
          we must not forget about his assistance to the resistance movement in countries such as Denmark and Norway,

          Resistance? In Denmark and Norway? There, if there was a Resistance, it was only in the form of Soviet troops fleeing from concentration camps. This is - We participated in the Resistance. How ? When the Germans entered our bar, we did not get up.
          And as for the supplies, the Swedes sold bearings to the Britons. The Angles had a special squadron, it was called-Blockers. If my memory serves me right, 2 tons of bearings were delivered from Sweden to Britain during WW350.
          So, they are prostitutes, both ours and yours. And now they hang out on all sides, like weathercocks. Probably the genes are affecting.
          1. zennon
            zennon 30 January 2016 17: 35
            17
            Quote: Alf
            When the Germans entered our bar, we did not get up.

            Come on! Seriously? I'm shocked by the courage of the Scandinavians! However, during the war, the frogs showed figs in their pockets to German soldiers, while my two "cowardly" grandfathers sat in the trenches of Stalingrad.
            PS Her military title is captain ...
            1. Alf
              Alf 30 January 2016 17: 56
              +3
              Quote: zennon
              Come on! Seriously? I'm shocked by the courage of the Scandinavians! However, during the war, the frogs showed figs in their pockets to German soldiers, while my two "cowardly" grandfathers sat in the trenches of Stalingrad.
              PS Her military title is captain ...

              With a bag? Did you go to the store?
              And about getting up, it really is.
              1. ARES623
                ARES623 30 January 2016 19: 47
                +3
                Quote: Alf
                With a bag? Did you go to the store?
                And about getting up, it really is.

                For cartridges for the army ... They didn’t get up - it’s strength, but far from the French, they also lay down (funnel up)
            2. Cherdak
              Cherdak 30 January 2016 17: 58
              +2
              Quote: zennon
              .And the Swedes are really cool.


              Yeah, when to catch mini-submarines on skerries, or to scare your people with airplanes. Even in this accident, they were looking for a Russian trace, but at least it was smart enough not to officially speak.

              The nation is corrupt, like the "Swedish family".
              1. Scraptor
                Scraptor 31 January 2016 18: 35
                0
                the boat turned out to be Dutch
            3. Cherdak
              Cherdak 30 January 2016 18: 06
              -2
              Quote: zennon
              I am shocked by the courage of the Scandinavians!


              In this case, too, I ...

              1. zennon
                zennon 30 January 2016 18: 58
                +7
                Quote: Cherdak
                In this case, too, I ...

                So what? Well, the Gripena disaster. It happens. In what and whose courage ?!
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          2. Scraptor
            Scraptor 31 January 2016 18: 32
            0
            When did they hang out towards Russia for the last time? They constantly cover up their hostile actions with their neutrality, it would be better if they were officially in NATO.

            And the general doesn’t seem to know what acute radiation sickness is for him and his relatives if he gets involved in a war with Russia ... it’s not long to poison with his breakfast in a row with them
        4. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 30 January 2016 17: 05
          +6
          "He recalled that" Sweden is not a member of the NATO bloc, "but" is experiencing military aggression from Russia. "

          Regarding the military aggression of Russia, it would be appropriate to invite ISIS leaders from the territory of Syria to Sweden with a course of educational lectures. They would very clearly explain.
          And then any passage near the airspace of Sweden - a guard, aggression!
          1. opus
            opus 30 January 2016 19: 52
            +4
            Quote: Reserve officer
            it would be appropriate to invite ISIS leaders from the territory of Syria to Sweden with a course of educational lectures.

            they are already there.

            In Sweden, "coded" crimes involving refugees. Since 2015, police in Sweden have begun to give crimes committed by refugees, secret code - 291

            Over the past four months, there have been more than 5 statements with this code, including 450 reports of fights, 559 statements about beatings, 149 threats, four allegations of rape, 37 cases of suicide attempts, 58 arson attacks, 96 reports of missing people.

            Recall, January 26, it became known about the murder of an employee of the refugee reception center. The girl worked in a juvenile receiver at the age of 13-17. A 15-year-old suspect has been taken into custody on charges of murder. The police do not comment on the identity or nationality of the offender.

            .
            In Vasteras, police received a report about a 10-year-old child who had been raped many times in a refugee camp. The Swedish police sent 10 people to the trial. As soon as they entered the camp, they were immediately surrounded by a crowd of migrants and began to shout at them. As a result, the police, forgetting the 10-year-old victim, fled from this place, and the refugees tried to pursue them.
        5. roadsmell
          roadsmell 30 January 2016 21: 52
          0
          None of the history of their country do not know.

          They, who do not know their history, are two-thirds of Europe.
        6. BMP-2
          BMP-2 31 January 2016 17: 29
          +1
          Quote: bort4145
          He calls
          None of the history of their country do not know.


          This is yes.
          ... in the relationship between Stockholm and Moscow. " “The relations between the two countries have never been so tense,” she said.


          It is unlikely that in 1709 near Poltava, relations between the two countries were more relaxed! laughing
      2. gray_angel
        gray_angel 30 January 2016 11: 44
        12
        an epidemic of anti-Russian hysteria has come to the Swedes ... I wonder who is next fool
        1. The black
          The black 30 January 2016 11: 51
          22
          it reached the Swedes long ago ... even when they were looking for a submarine, which they either saw or did not see drunken fishermen. laughing
          1. lysyj bob
            lysyj bob 30 January 2016 12: 16
            +7
            "He recalled that" Sweden is not a member of the NATO bloc, "but" is experiencing military aggression from Russia. "

            Is this what kind of aggression do they experience, or do we not know something? Glitches with submarines I do not take into account - not seriously.
        2. Alf
          Alf 30 January 2016 16: 39
          +1
          Quote: gray_angel
          an epidemic of anti-Russian hysteria has reached the Swedes ..

          This is not hysteria. This is an accurate calculation.
          In Sweden over the past three months of 2015, more than 5 thousand offenses were committed by migrants newly arrived in the country, police head Dan Eliasson reports, Svenska Dagbladet reports.
          According to law enforcement agencies, the crimes committed by refugees are actually much more and much is simply not taken into account in these statistics. Police are also concerned about the situation in refugee shelters.
          “The riots in the refugee centers demand more and more of our attention. I am concerned about this development of events. I am afraid that the situation will become even more complicated,” said Police Chief Dan Eliasson.
          Note that the Swedish police received a directive not to disclose information regarding crime among a record number of migrants who came to the kingdom last year - cases of violence, threats, arson and other types of offenses where refugees became suspects, victims or witnesses.
          All of these cases received the code "291" and were considered as undisclosed material. As reported, Sweden will expel 80 thousand migrants from the country

          Speaking of the war with Russia, the Swedes hope, as in a joke, to surrender in the 10th minute of the war, and that the Russians will cleanse their country from the blacks, because they themselves can’t cope. Thus, the Swedes veiledly call for help. But the question is: Is it necessary for Russia?
        3. opus
          opus 30 January 2016 19: 52
          +1
          Quote: gray_angel
          an epidemic of anti-Russian hysteria has reached the Swedes ..

          Kemsku parish want


        4. Orionvit
          Orionvit 30 January 2016 20: 28
          +2
          The Swedes have reached the paranoid-schizophrenic syndrome of Western democracy.
          1. major147
            major147 31 January 2016 16: 58
            0
            Yes, just "bribes" have not been received for a long time, so they lift their tail.
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      4. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 30 January 2016 11: 44
        32
        But the moment of victory is at hand.
        Hooray! we break; bend the Swedes.
        O glorious hour! oh nice view!
        Another pressure - and the enemy flees.
        And then the cavalry left,
        Murder sword swords,
        And the whole steppe was covered with fallen ones,
        Like a swarm of black locusts.
        A.S. Pushkin

        They will talk, we can repeat ....
        1. dr.Bo
          dr.Bo 30 January 2016 11: 48
          +6
          Relationships are strained by themselves in their minds or at the behest of the puppeteer! They were only too late with the military rhetoric, with the sirdyuk it was necessary to "fart"!
        2. alone
          alone 30 January 2016 12: 14
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          They will talk, we can repeat ....


          Of course Vitaly, you probably won’t repeat it yourself. On the couch it’s easier to blow it.
          Maybe all the same here is gorlopanit enough? Would be engaged in something useful
          1. MIKHAN
            MIKHAN 30 January 2016 12: 27
            22
            Quote: lonely
            Quote: MIKHAN
            They will talk, we can repeat ....


            Of course Vitaly, you probably won’t repeat it yourself. On the couch it’s easier to blow it.
            Maybe all the same here is gorlopanit enough? Would be engaged in something useful

            Omar you took me right on "bail" together with the professor ...))) You are constantly monitoring! bully I know how to shoot and accurately enough, and yet my sons are growing up and there are many young people here ... Did the poems of A.S. Pushkin lose your temper? Do you think he is a bawker? We remember our history and will not let anyone trample it in the dirt! I just don’t like whining (although it’s very hard for me now on all fronts) My slogan is “You’re lying, you won’t take ..!” These are the things in the tank forces .. hi
            1. alone
              alone 30 January 2016 12: 49
              -30 qualifying.
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Omar you took me right on "bail" together with the professor ...))) You are constantly monitoring! I know how to shoot and accurately enough, but also my sons are growing up and there are many young people here ...

              Do you even know what it means to bury a young man? You throw calls here to war. Are you ready to answer to the mothers of those who will die in this war? Can you look into the eyes of the mother who will bury her son in this senseless war? "My hut is on the edge. Sons say they grow: May God grant them health. And you have a little mind.
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 13: 03
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                Quote: lonely
                Do you even know what it means to bury a young man? You throw calls here to war. Are you ready to answer to the mothers of those who will die in this war? Can you look into the eyes of the mother who will bury her son in this senseless war? "My hut is on the edge. Sons say they grow: May God grant them health. And you have a little mind.


                Bravo! Wonderful performance, in the style of our liberals! How do you all care about our people, how you regret, how sorry you are for our unfortunate old women who remained behind the military-industrial complex without a pension! How you regret our kids! You don’t understand only one thing, that Russia remains Russia, only thanks to its sons, real sons, who, despite hunger, cold, poverty and other hardships, always stood up to defend the Motherland and they didn’t care what it was called, Muscovy , The Russian Empire or the USSR, for them it was, is and will be THE RUSSIAN LAND!
                And you, deeply disrespectful, can emit saliva and write about the fact that I would never give my children away! I would curse my son if he betrayed his country as you betray it!
                1. alone
                  alone 30 January 2016 13: 18
                  -15 qualifying.
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  I would curse my son, if he, just betrayed his country, as you betray it!

                  I betrayed my Country? How can you explain to me? What has I personally done wrong for my country, which is called betrayal?
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 13: 31
                    18
                    Quote: lonely
                    I betrayed my Country? How can you explain to me? What has I personally done wrong for my country, which is called betrayal?


                    You may not have betrayed! The only question is which country do you consider to be yours ?!

                    Just don’t say that Russia is your homeland, I won’t believe it!
                    Who is Russian in heart, he loves his homeland!
                    And the heart does not destroy his betrayal!
                    (verse about Ivan Susanin)
              2. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 30 January 2016 13: 23
                35
                Quote: lonely
                Do you even know what is it to bury the young? You are throwing calls here to the war. Are you ready to answer to the mothers of those who die in this war? Can you look into the eyes of the mother who will bury her son in this senseless war?

                We know. Buried. And they sent to death, and they themselves went. God gave - returned. And zinc was brought to the Union. And they looked into the eyes of mothers. And not a single mother said that her son died senselessly in a meaningless war.

                Liberalists usually hiss about meaningless wars. In the early 90's heard a lot about the tonsils!

                It will be necessary - and the dust itself will shake off and go. They probably trust the AKC - from an old memory ... I’ll send my son and my grandson. At age 14, you can also fight ...

                And for everyone I sent into battle, I answer. In front of the country, in front of people, in front of itself. For everyone. And I don’t need to paint the horrors of war here, I do not need to crush pity! Sit alone, at home - we can do without you ...
                1. alone
                  alone 30 January 2016 13: 29
                  -13 qualifying.
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  We know. Buried. And they sent to death, and they themselves went. God gave - returned. And zinc was brought to the Union. And they looked into the eyes of mothers. And not a single mother said that her son died senselessly in a meaningless war.

                  Liberalists usually hiss about meaningless wars. In the early 90's heard a lot about the tonsils!

                  It will be necessary - and the dust itself will shake off and go. They probably trust the AKC - from an old memory ... I’ll send my son and my grandson. At age 14, you can also fight ...

                  And for everyone I sent to battle, I answer. In front of the country, in front of people, in front of itself. For everyone. And I don’t need to paint the horrors of war here, I do not need to crush pity! Sit, lonely, at home - we can do without you ...

                  I believe it willingly. Come. You’ll fight. Because I personally didn’t notice you in the throat. But Mikhan is a natural throat. I screamed here about the Ukrofashists, I shouted that I had to drive them to Lvov. I connected Ukraine. Only in the militia I didn’t had seen.
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 13: 48
                    17
                    Quote: lonely
                    And here is Mikhan, a natural gorlopan. He screamed here about the Ukrainian fascists, shouted that they had to be driven to Lvov. He connected Ukraine. Only in the militia, I never saw him.


                    So we didn’t notice you in the trenches of Donbass! Do not throw charges of cowardice to another when the coward himself! You really are against us, so forward and with the song, there is APU, there is DAISH, go fight! But no, you are a coward, you are sitting on the Internet and finely shitting on Russia, so, by the little things, but you are working out your money!

                    I'm interested in something else! My brother taught me how to shoot, I know how to use: SVD, AK-74, PKM, and so on little things! The question is, when the war declared to Russia will enter a hot phase, will I see you in sight or will you continue to fight on the couch, "anika warrior" ?!
                    1. alone
                      alone 30 January 2016 13: 54
                      -20 qualifying.
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      So we didn’t notice you in the trenches of Donbass!

                      I explained to you tantally that I am not Russian. I am not a citizen of Russia. I did not call here to go to war in Ukraine. By the way, I didn’t see your brother or your son there either.
                      1. Diana Ilyina
                        Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 14: 11
                        16
                        Quote: lonely
                        By the way, I didn’t see your brother and your son there either.


                        "Where is there?!

                        God forbid you meet my brother! When he goes into a rage, I myself am afraid that something would not work out! So when you meet him, your destiny is to bleat, like, like, on the Internet there is a video about a "computer warrior" caught in Gorlovka! You can view! Only, my brother, may not turn out to be as generous to you as he turned out to be generous, that hero of Donbass, who let him go home, this imperfection!
                      2. alone
                        alone 30 January 2016 14: 17
                        -17 qualifying.
                        Quote: Diana Ilyina
                        God forbid you meet my brother! When he goes into a rage, I myself am afraid that something would not work out! So when you meet him, your destiny is to bleat, like, like, on the Internet there is a video about a "computer warrior" caught in Gorlovka! You can view! Only, my brother, may not turn out to be as generous to you as he turned out to be generous, that hero of Donbass, who let him go home, this imperfection!

                        And how do you know who will turn out to be generous to whom? If he is such a hero, why is he not in the Donbass. You can blame me for not being in the militia. If you wish, call, send your hero-brother there. They need them now.

                        Quote: Diana Ilyina
                        So your lot when you meet him is to bleat,

                        You are lucky. You are a woman. I forgive you these inappropriate words. Only weak ones in discussions offend your opponents. When they have nothing to say
                      3. Diana Ilyina
                        Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 18: 23
                        13
                        Quote: lonely
                        You are lucky. You are a woman. I forgive you these inappropriate words. Only weak ones in discussions offend your opponents. When they have nothing to say


                        You do not know Russian women, especially Don Cossacks! If you don’t know, then I’ll remind you how in the Azov seat, Cossacks stood next to their fathers, husbands and brothers on the fortress walls, reflecting the assaults on a par with men! I can remind you the heroines of the defense of Sevastopol, Vasilisa Kozhin, Lydia Litvyak and hundreds of thousands of nameless women who stood next to the men to defend their Fatherland! But you, not Russian, can’t understand this! A Russian woman in anger will be worse than many men, so do not mess with us, it will be more expensive for yourself!

                        And I didn’t even begin to insult you, when I start, you will feel bad!
                      4. Alf
                        Alf 30 January 2016 18: 50
                        10
                        Quote: Diana Ilyina
                        I can remind you the heroines of the defense of Sevastopol, Vasilisa Kozhin, Lydia Litvyak and hundreds of thousands of nameless women who stood next to the men to defend their Fatherland!

                        Rimma Ivanova, 1MV nurse.
                        Olga Shidlovskaya-hussar 1MB.
                        Elena Tsebrzhimskaya-medical assistant 1MB.
                        Natalia Fok-sister of mercy 1MB.
                        Antonina Palshina cavalryman 1MV.
                        Lyudmila Chernousova-infantryman 1MV.
                        Kira Bashkirova, infantryman 1MV.
                        Alexandra Danilova, infantryman 1MV.
                        Natalia Komarova, Cossack 1MB.
                        Aleksanda Lazareva Cossack 1MB.
                        Maria Smirnova, infantryman 1MB.
                        And hundreds and thousands of others, famous and nameless, fallen and survivors.
                        Truly invincible is the country in which there are such women!
                      5. Diana Ilyina
                        Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 19: 01
                        10
                        Quote: Alf
                        Truly invincible is the country in which there are such women!


                        Let at least one of our haters name at least a dozen names of women heroines, in the same: England, France (respect for Jeanne d'Arc!), America or any other country ?! I'm sure there won't be even five names! So they are not poor to compete with Russia!

                        There are still women in Russian villages! You can be sure! They still did not see my mother in anger!
                      6. Alf
                        Alf 30 January 2016 19: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Diana Ilyina
                        That they still have not seen my mother in anger!

                        God forbid! I'm already scared in advance. laughing love
                      7. Diana Ilyina
                        Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 19: 32
                        +8
                        Quote: Alf
                        God forbid! I'm already scared in advance. laughing love


                        Don’t be afraid, for yours, she’s the cutest person! But to be her enemy, I would not wish anyone! love
                2. kotvov
                  kotvov 31 January 2016 11: 30
                  +1
                  lonely, you remind me of dill, sitting in the city of Zalupinsk and discussing world politics. What can you know about the Donbass? Who is fighting there, who is not, while you have the courage of someone to send somewhere? Maybe you’d better take up your country and not get into the showdown of others?
        3. Bayonet
          Bayonet 30 January 2016 20: 16
          -5
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          ! My brother taught me how to shoot, I can use it: SVD, AK-74, RMB, and so on the little things!
    2. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 13: 34
      14
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      Sit alone, at home - we can do without you ...


      Worthy and tasteful! And most importantly, in Russian! Real man, my compliments! love
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 30 January 2016 13: 47
        +6
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Worthy and tasteful! And most importantly, in Russian! Real man, my compliments!

        I'm just like 15 years old ... repeat

        Somehow I didn’t invent speeches specifically, just they got those that themselves had cut from the army, while others are told about the horrors of war, about "bury young," about the eyes of mothers ... We don't need to tell us about the war. I spent half of my conscious life where they shoot and I clearly know where such peacekeepers are when they really smell gunpowder.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 13: 54
          +9
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          I'm just like 15 years old ... repeat


          Well! Glad you are younger! Although I do not know how old you are, but judging by the fact that my grandson is 14 years old, he is no longer a boy! Just do not be offended, for God's sake! I sincerely wish you health, happiness, family well-being, and most importantly, that neither you, nor your son, or your grandson have a chance to really fight! love
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 January 2016 19: 22
      0
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      And not a single mother said that her son died senselessly in a meaningless war.

      But this is not necessary! When they buried the son of my friend, who had flown in from Afgan in zinc, I heard a lot from his mother about those who tried to tell her about the "international duty" ...
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 31 January 2016 04: 48
        +3
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        And not a single mother said that her son died senselessly in a meaningless war.

        But this is not necessary! When they buried the son of my friend, who had flown in from Afgan in zinc, I heard a lot from his mother about those who tried to tell her about the "international duty" ...

        And it was not necessary to talk about international duty. Moreover, TAM escorted him alone, and here recruiting paper rats talk about the international duty. VERY rare, only if the route coincides with some other need, the guys escorted. They didn’t tell about the international duty, because we didn’t owe ANYTHING to anyone ... They found other words if they found ... And their mothers did not spit in their faces, but considered them to be their sons like the one in zinc.

        That’s why you heard a lot from your friend’s mother, because you didn’t come to the funeral and said something wrong.

        Major-lieutenant colonels from the RVC, in crumpled cloaks and hangover-crumpled husbands, will come and mutter about some kind of duty, about internationalism, about fraternal help ... And then they will go back to the military registration and enlistment office to shift the recruits' profiles - a job that a 20-year-old girl can do, but instead, healthy foreheads sit there, wipe their pants with good money ... What mother doesn’t spit in such a face and asks why her son is THERE, and he is HERE ...

        This is what you heard. And not a single mother reproached me. Because THERE were bullish per square kilometer of the territory THOUSAND times less than here, and mothers saw it - you can’t deceive them ...
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 31 January 2016 17: 55
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        When my friend’s son, who flew from Afghanistan in zinc, was buried,

        Although he put a shit as a minus, but you don’t want to bury the children ...
  2. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 January 2016 13: 33
    19
    Quote: lonely
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Omar you took me right on "bail" together with the professor ...))) You are constantly monitoring! I know how to shoot and accurately enough, but also my sons are growing up and there are many young people here ...

    Do you even know what it means to bury a young man? You throw calls here to war. Are you ready to answer to the mothers of those who will die in this war? Can you look into the eyes of the mother who will bury her son in this senseless war? "My hut is on the edge. Sons say they grow: May God grant them health. And you have a little mind.

    This is how I will answer you Omar ... I remember the 90s well! Then Russia was weak and only the lazy one did not kick it (but in general, we were simply cut out in Azerbaijan, including ...) "Come on bye .." Remember the song! Now Russia is being reborn and again the screams from the "brothers" are imperial ambition, etc. The demand to repent and kneel down again? No, now we will wet us and no one will stop us (not even the USA and Israel) The masks have been dropped and the "jackal grin .." First we persuade, and then we shoot indiscriminately! And there are many like me in Russia .. (I am one of talkative) Language is my enemy! hi
    1. alone
      alone 30 January 2016 14: 02
      -19 qualifying.
      Quote: MIKHAN
      but in general we were simply cut out in Azerbaijan, including ...)

      Lies. Regarding the fact that many Russians left the republic, I’ll tell you so. Together with them, half a million Azerbaijanis left. They also cut it. There was nothing to live on. Here and gone. Now 150 Russians live with us. You would live where you were cut ?

      Quote: MIKHAN
      And there are many like me in Russia .. (I'm one of the talkative)


      Thank you for recognition. Such as you are the trouble of Russia))) laughing
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 30 January 2016 14: 16
        11
        Quote: lonely
        150 Russians live with us. Would you live where you were slaughtered?

        If my children lived, my ancestors were buried there and nowhere to run and nothing ...
        Quote: lonely
        Thank you for recognition. Such as you are the trouble of Russia)))

        No reason Omar ...! But the new generation, they won’t understand it very much ... It’s just a shame for them to humiliate their fathers and grandfathers simply ..! I'm afraid we won’t be able to restrain them ... hi They got the "brothers" just ...
        1. alone
          alone 30 January 2016 14: 23
          -11 qualifying.
          Quote: MIKHAN
          If my children lived, my ancestors were buried there and nowhere to run and nothing ...


          Come to Baku, see how the Russians live here. And if you can’t admire, here
          1. MIKHAN
            MIKHAN 30 January 2016 14: 53
            11
            Quote: lonely
            Come to Baku, see how the Russians live here.

            I will only come in an "Armata" tank ... (but first I will disperse the Azerbaijani mafia in the markets in Russia))) Do you have a Russian criminal group Omar in the market in Baku? ))))) laughing bully That's the same thing, or else everyone is whining ... But Aliyev’s on the video, his eyes are cunning, cunning ... Like a tomato seller from Turkey on the market in Moscow ..))))
          2. alone
            alone 30 January 2016 18: 31
            +1
            Quote: MIKHAN
            I will only come in an "Armata" tank ... (but first, I will disperse the Azerbaijani mafia in the markets in Russia)))

            There is a control for each tank. I already told you once. The Supreme Command Putin has the right to declare war on us. You are not Putin. So your words are the words of a desperate bawler. I can 100% assure that even if there is such an order, you will not go Vitaly was not created for this. Your destiny is to shout "hurray."

            P.S. Put MIKHAN a lot of pluses. He needs to get to Marshal soon. And then he’ll grab a second heart attack. I still need him)))) wassat
          3. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 18: 50
            11
            Quote: lonely
            I can 100% assure that, even if there is such an order, you will not go to fight. Vitaly was not created for this. Your destiny is to shout "hurray."


            Is there a "great" Azerbaijani warrior here ?! Tell me, warrior, how many wars did Azerbaijan win ?! And in general, how old is the state of Azerbaijan and thanks to whom, such a state appeared on the world map ?!
          4. alone
            alone 30 January 2016 18: 54
            -4
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Is there a "great" Azerbaijani warrior here ?! Tell me, warrior, how many wars did Azerbaijan win ?! And in general, how old is the state of Azerbaijan and thanks to whom, such a state appeared on the world map ?!


            )))) Thanks to the 35 dead, the state appeared in the world. There are enough countries in the world that appeared on the map without any wars. I am not a great warrior, I am just a person who knows and saw what war is, unlike you.
          5. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 19: 10
            12
            Quote: lonely
            )))) Thanks to the 35 dead, a state appeared in our country.


            Your "state" was born first thanks to the Russian Empire, which saved you, then thanks to the USSR, which gave you industry, education and medicine, then thanks to the Russian Federation, which did not hold you back by force!

            And 35000 dead, this is the result of your foolishness and excessive greed! And by the way, what did you achieve with this ?! Hatred of Armenians ?! Good result, nothing to say!

            By the way, it was disgusting to look at your soldiers walking at the Victory parade in NATO uniform and with machine guns lowered down in the NATO manner! I had a desire that after passing yours, irrigation machines would drive and wash the NATO dirt off our Red Square!
          6. BLACK-SHARK-64
            BLACK-SHARK-64 31 January 2016 23: 27
            0
            In general, what for they were allowed to the parade ??? I still do not understand ....
  3. Orionvit
    Orionvit 30 January 2016 20: 25
    +5
    Typical propaganda film, quite cheaply made. I myself come from the Caucasus, and I know the "fraternal" peoples not by hearsay.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 January 2016 16: 01
    10
    Quote: lonely
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Omar you took me right on "bail" together with the professor ...))) You are constantly monitoring! I know how to shoot and accurately enough, but also my sons are growing up and there are many young people here ...

    Do you even know what it means to bury a young man? You throw calls here to war. Are you ready to answer to the mothers of those who will die in this war? Can you look into the eyes of the mother who will bury her son in this senseless war? "My hut is on the edge. Sons say they grow: May God grant them health. And you have a little mind.

    Armenia is too tough for you! (I understood your hint)))) I won’t be excused, like many in Russia! Just rock the boat ....
    1. alone
      alone 30 January 2016 18: 33
      -4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Armenia is too tough for you! (I understood your hint)))) I won’t be excused, like many in Russia! Just rock the boat ....

      And what about Armenia? I don’t have any hints. You have rare porridge on your head.
      Do not threaten us Mikhan. We have already passed this once.
  • Diana Ilyina
    Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 12: 44
    12
    Quote: lonely
    Of course Vitaly, you probably won’t repeat it yourself. On the couch it’s easier to blow it.
    Maybe all the same here is gorlopanit enough? Would be engaged in something useful


    Do not blame a person for what he has not done yet! How do you know if he will go to the draft board as a volunteer or not ?! You, judging by your comments, will not go! On the thief, as they say, and the hat is on fire!

    By the way, the word "will be" is written with a soft sign at the end "will"!
    1. alone
      alone 30 January 2016 12: 51
      -1
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      You, judging by your comments, will not go! On the thief, as they say, and the hat is on fire!

      I fought for my country and will go again when there is an order.
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      By the way, the word "will be" is written with a soft sign at the end "will"!


      I am not Russian, and mistakes are excusable to me. You would have seen what grammatical mistakes are made by those who are Russian.
      1. mr.grin19z
        mr.grin19z 30 January 2016 13: 01
        0
        if not Russian che nosyosh or type of foreign
        1. alone
          alone 30 January 2016 13: 20
          +3
          Quote: mr.grin19z
          if not Russian che nosyosh or type of foreign

          And what, is it written here that the entrance site is only for Russians?
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 13: 36
            +9
            Quote: lonely
            And what, is it written here that the entrance site is only for Russians?


            Site for everyone! The only question is, how are you with such concepts, on this site have grown to the marshal ?!
            1. alone
              alone 30 January 2016 13: 59
              -1
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Site for everyone! The only question is, how are you with such concepts, on this site have grown to the marshal ?!

              My thoughts are my thoughts. We are all not robots to think alike. If the rating is sufficient, then I had like-minded people. I am realist, unlike some.
            2. padded jacket
              padded jacket 30 January 2016 14: 03
              17
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              The only question is, how are you with such concepts, on this site have grown to the marshal ?!

              And I’ll tell you how it happens with them - there are only about 30 "citizens" under Israeli flags on the site, as well as about 10-15 people with the flags of Russia but the opinion of the "fifth column" and these, so to speak, "patriots" of our Motherland to us here, day after day, they are trying to instill what evil and impoverished Russia is and what "bloody regime" of Putin "rules" us smile
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 14: 20
                15
                Quote: quilted jacket
                And I’ll tell you how it happens with them - there are only about 30 "citizens" under Israeli flags on the site, as well as about 10-15 people with the flags of Russia but the opinion of the "fifth column" and these, so to speak, "patriots" of our Motherland to us here, day after day, they are trying to instill what evil and impoverished Russia is and what "bloody regime" of Putin "rules" us smile


                Agree! When I first got to VO, and it was in the midst of the ruins of the Maidan, there were not so many ghouls on VO! There were mostly adequate, patriotic citizens of Russia! At first, I just read the articles and comments to them, but when all sorts of liberals and maydanuts went to the site en masse, I decided that it was time to write and defend my country from the diarrhea that was poured on it, various pseudo-patriots who are real patriots of their homeland, recorded in "hurray-patriots", doused with mud and trying to mix with their excrement!

                At the beginning of 2014, the site was not so dirty with liberal and maidan mud!
              2. Bayonet
                Bayonet 30 January 2016 19: 31
                -9
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                When I first accidentally came to VO, and it was in the midst of the ruin of the Maidan, VO did not have so many ghouls!

                With your arrival, they have increased! smile hi
              3. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 19: 57
                17
                Quote: Bayonet
                With your arrival, they have increased! smile hi


                I can answer you with the same coin, ghoul-Russophobe!
              4. Bayonet
                Bayonet 30 January 2016 20: 06
                -10 qualifying.
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                I can answer you with the same coin, ghoul-Russophobe!

                Looks like
              5. Victor-M
                Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 11
                +6
                Quote: Bayonet
                Looks like

                To your wife, and to you, who knows you, who you are there. laughing
          2. Victor-M
            Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 11
            +1
            Quote: Bayonet
            With your arrival, they have increased!

            Why a bayonet, not a stalk? Perhaps the inferiority complex is tormenting? laughing
        2. padded jacket
          padded jacket 31 January 2016 12: 46
          +2
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          At the beginning of 2014, the site was not so dirty with liberal and maidan mud!

          Quite right, but look where the most "noisy" and active denunciators of the "bloody regime" come from under the flags of Israel and then under the flags of Russia.
    2. d.antonov
      d.antonov 30 January 2016 16: 39
      0
      Silently apparently up to the marshal.
      If you have not noticed, this is a military review site, it is not called only about Russia and is not a word against.
      And before the advent of scammers, the site was much better.
      There are actually a dozen people unsubscribing on the topic.
      But there are 10 times as many screaming goofs, the same Mikhan, who was a marshal, but did not write a single comment on the topic. Just not one, just stupid pictures.
      In the pictures they’ll get a rating, and then they sit minus everyone who does not agree with the next nonsense about SyShya's public debt and about the unsecured dollar
      1. Rostov
        Rostov 30 January 2016 18: 19
        +2
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        The only question is, how are you with such concepts, on this site have grown to the marshal ?!

        Let’s say I have a question for you. How do you, with such a high rating, do not know who Omar is? He is an old-timer, and always writes practical things. And in this case, he is right no less than Meehan. Reread his first post, that he wrote such seditious things because of what are you so furious about?
      2. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 19: 21
        +8
        Quote: Rostov
        Let’s say I have a question for you. How do you, with such a high rating, do not know who Omar is? He is an old-timer, and always writes practical things. And in this case, he is right no less than Meehan. Reread his first post, that he wrote such seditious things because of what are you so furious about?


        I'm not mad, this is first!
        Secondly, it is deeply violet to me that he was an "old-timer" and that he wrote there before! It is enough to read our correspondence and understand what I do not agree with!
        Thirdly, in Azerbaijan, what, there are no problems ?! Or are there no social networks that they all climb here with their tips ?! I don’t go to Azerbaijani sites and don’t advise how they should live!

        What is the problem?!
      3. alone
        alone 30 January 2016 20: 25
        +2
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        I'm not mad, this is first!
        Secondly, it is deeply violet to me that he was an "old-timer" and that he wrote there before! It is enough to read our correspondence and understand what I do not agree with!
        Thirdly, in Azerbaijan, what, there are no problems ?! Or are there no social networks that they all climb here with their tips ?! I don’t go to Azerbaijani sites and don’t advise how they should live!

        What is the problem?!

        I never advise anyone how to live. I just pointed out that it’s so immoral to call people to war and still sit on the couch.
  • Victor-M
    Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 14
    +2
    Quote: d.antonov
    Silently apparently up to the marshal.
    If you have not noticed, this is a military review site, it is not called only about Russia and is not a word against.
    And before the advent of scammers, the site was much better.
    There are actually a dozen people unsubscribing on the topic.
    But there are 10 times as many screaming goofs, the same Mikhan, who was a marshal, but did not write a single comment on the topic. Just not one, just stupid pictures.
    In the pictures they’ll get a rating, and then they sit minus everyone who does not agree with the next nonsense about SyShya's public debt and about the unsecured dollar

    He wrote everything on the topic, well done. Got two likes, good luck! wink laughing
  • BLACK-SHARK-64
    BLACK-SHARK-64 31 January 2016 23: 29
    0
    Dismiss on .... oops !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! am
  • Diana Ilyina
    Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 13: 16
    11
    Quote: lonely
    I fought for my country and will go again when there is an order.
    I am not Russian, and my mistakes are excusable.


    And where is your homeland son ?! (film "Brother 2")
    It can be seen that you are not Russian! Russian would not write this!

    And leave this rotten pathos, about how you "heroically" defended the Motherland and "wrote a letter on the boot of a murdered comrade," for snotty schoolgirls! It doesn't work for me! My grandfather is a military officer who has gone through two wars and my brother is a spetsnaz officer who also fought, and I know for sure that those who REALLY fought do not hit themselves in the chest and do not shout at every corner what a "great warrior" he is! As my brother says, such as you, at best, served somewhere in the kitchen or at the headquarters, and most likely did not serve at all!
    1. alone
      alone 30 January 2016 13: 24
      -3
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      And leave this rotten pathos, about how you "heroically" defended the Motherland and "wrote a letter on the boot of a murdered comrade", for snotty schoolgirls! It doesn't work for me! My grandfather is a military officer who has gone through two wars and my brother is a special forces officer who also fought, and I know for sure that those who REALLY fought do not hit themselves in the chest and do not shout at every corner what a "great warrior" he is! As my brother says, such as you, at best, served somewhere in the kitchen or at the headquarters, and most likely did not serve at all!

      The one who really fought is always against the war. Because he knows what it is. Show me where I wrote about my heroism? Where did I write that I’m a great warrior? Are you proud of your grandfather, brother? I also have those who don’t returned from the front. But unlike you, I hide behind them like a shield.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 30 January 2016 14: 01
        +7
        Quote: lonely
        The one who really fought is always against the war, because he knows what it is.

        Well, I know what it is. So I need pacifists? So, let different rubbish come and do here, at my house, what does he want? So, I have to bend under anyone, if only there was no war?

        You, my dear, you need to get into the white bellows. To Bolotnaya, to the Union of Right Forces. There, this pacifism is respected. And all, without exception, stubborn from the army. In an extreme case - the mistake of youth - a service in communications near Ufa.

        And about the thoughts of those who had to fight - do not argue. We ourselves sometimes do not understand why we were eager to fight, when it was possible to sit out at the base - no one would condemn or reproach. And you do not understand us all the more ....
        1. alone
          alone 30 January 2016 14: 10
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          You, my dear, you need to get into the white bellows. To Bolotnaya, to the Union of Right Forces. There, this pacifism is respected. And all, without exception, stubborn from the army. In an extreme case - the mistake of youth - a service in communications near Ufa.

          Thank you. Leave this to yourself, any trash from Bolotnaya, we do not need them.
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          u know what that is. So I need pacifists?


          I didn’t say that you need to go to the pacifists. The one who is a warrior doesn’t call anyone to sit on the couch. He collects a duffel bag and quietly leaves. I repeat I didn’t notice you in the throat and willingly believe that you will fight. And I know him well enough. Couch warrior. I could only chomp to get to the marshal
      2. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 14: 03
        10
        Quote: lonely
        Are you proud of your grandfather, brother? I also have those in my family who have not returned from the front. But unlike you, I hide behind them like a shield.


        I do not hide behind them, I AM Proud OF THEM!
        No need to misinterpret and reverse the meaning of what I have written! If you do not understand Russian well, then these are your problems! I just wanted to say that those who really fought do not flaunt it! And those who shout to the whole Internet that he "fought and that he gave his debt in full to his homeland" (exaggerating, if that), those in the army, most likely, were not even close!
        1. ver_
          ver_ 31 January 2016 12: 41
          +1
          ... it seems like we are watching a theater of two actors ...
      3. mr.grin19z
        mr.grin19z 30 January 2016 17: 18
        0
        they do not need to hide behind how to be proud of their shield
    2. mr.grin19z
      mr.grin19z 30 January 2016 17: 16
      0
      I completely agree, let him take another exam in Russian here, it’s not a school of error, you can forgive
  • sleeping sayan
    sleeping sayan 30 January 2016 13: 49
    +8
    As you fought, it’s known. They lost their war, lost territory, despite the help of Afgh. Mujahideen, Turks, Chechens, Basayev and Gelayev. No, to fight with the Armenians, half of Azerbaijan fled to Russia. Such as a raz. Nothing personal, just statement of facts. Faced with Azerbaijanis in Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug-Surgut.
    1. alone
      alone 30 January 2016 13: 57
      -3
      Quote: Sleeping Sayan
      As you fought, it’s known. They lost their war, lost territory, despite the help of Afgh. Mujahideen, Turks, Chechens, Basayev and Gelayev. No, to fight with the Armenians, half of Azerbaijan fled to Russia. Such as a raz. Nothing personal, just statement of facts. Faced with Azerbaijanis in Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug-Surgut.

      I didn’t see Gelaev in Azerbaijan, maybe he fought. As for me, I’m staying at my place, I didn’t run to Russia, I fought as best I could, as they were taught in the BVVKU.
      1. NyeMoNik70
        NyeMoNik70 30 January 2016 15: 14
        0
        "... I am sitting at my place, I did not run to Russia ..." ??? !!! Our "Turkish" friend, isn't the Soviet nationality "Azeri" located on the territory of Russia? You ask the Armenians, maybe they will remind you.
  • Kostyar
    Kostyar 30 January 2016 11: 47
    +1
    ESSH-Che odi "great warriors", FLOAT .....?!
    Let rest in peace, if that ..... !!!
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 11: 52
      +7
      Quote: Bone
      Let rest in peace, if that ..... !!!


      Yeah, One of them was already waiting! The question is who will meet them there now ?! Valkyries, after all, are not necessary for gays!
  • Diana Ilyina
    Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 11: 49
    20
    The Swedes apparently have a short memory! After the campaign of Barclay de Tolly, Sweden lost Finland and for 200 years vowed to contact Russia! And what happened now, the Vikings have extra berserkers ?!
    1. Andrea
      Andrea 30 January 2016 12: 01
      +6
      Diana Ilyina
      Just a fly agaric general.
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 30 January 2016 12: 06
      +2
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      And what happened now, the Vikings have extra berserkers ?!

      The "Vikings" lost their instinct for self-preservation. Okay, the Swedes - they have forgotten for 200 years, but now, 75 years ago, the Finns bend their fingers. Life teaches nothing ..
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 12: 16
        +7
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        The "Vikings" lost their instinct for self-preservation. Okay, the Swedes - they have forgotten for 200 years, but now, 75 years ago, the Finns bend their fingers. Life teaches nothing ..


        Yes, not only the Finns were excited there, but the Norwegians were stirring up water! It seems that the Vikings have completely lost their memory, or maybe what infection did the Americans bring to them ?! Well, we have the best virologists in the world, polite people are called! They are really very polite and can politely return Svalbard to their historic homeland!
      2. GRAY
        GRAY 30 January 2016 12: 39
        +8
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        The "Vikings" lost their instinct for self-preservation.

        The Vikings have long degenerated - now in their own house, blacks and Arabs are chasing them.
    3. alone
      alone 30 January 2016 12: 16
      -5
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      The Swedes apparently have a short memory! After the campaign of Barclay de Tolly, Sweden lost Finland and for 200 years vowed to contact Russia!


      Underestimating the enemy, referring to the fact that she lost Finland 2 centuries ago. However, a note: the Swedes have one of the best armies in Europe and a very decent military-industrial complex.
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 12: 30
        15
        Quote: lonely
        Underestimating the enemy, referring to the fact that she lost Finland 2 centuries ago. However, a note: the Swedes have one of the best armies in Europe and a very decent military-industrial complex.


        This is not an underestimation, it is just a knowledge of history! I already wrote here, but I remind you! In 1700, Sweden had the most powerful army in Europe, organized by the most advanced, at that time military technology, led by the best generals, beating the armies of Denmark and Poland! The Swedes had the most powerful fleet in the Baltic and the second in the world, after the British! While in Russia, except for the Preobrazhensky and Semenovsky regiments, the entire army consisted of archers, long outdated, there was practically no artillery and there was absolutely no fleet!

        Tell you the results of the Northern War, or will you find it yourself on the Internet ?!
        1. alone
          alone 30 January 2016 12: 39
          -1
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          Tell you the results of the Northern War, or will you find it yourself on the Internet ?!

          I don’t have to tell anything. I can remember the story better than anyone. Today is not 1700, but 2016. Think about the criteria of 1700 and say that the same will be for non-professionals in 2016. Do you recall the first Chechen today? everything is decided not on the battlefield, in narrow circles of politicians.

          And yet. The Swedes will not attack. They are betting on defense. This is clear to the madman.
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 12: 55
            11
            Quote: lonely
            And yet. The Swedes will not attack. They are betting on defense. This is clear to the madman.


            What are you saying ?! When did it stop our enemies ?! Charles XII did not know about the Neva battle ?! Or did Hitler not know the fate of Napoleon ?!

            The Swedes apparently received a grant from the Americans, and at the same time a kick in the tolerant ass! So they dream of their former greatness and amuse themselves with the hope that by uniting with such military "monsters" as Poland, Finland, Norway, Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania, under the cover of the "world hegemon" they will wrest from Russia the coveted Kermsu volost!
            1. alone
              alone 30 January 2016 13: 04
              -2
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              What are you saying ?! When did it stop our enemies ?!


              the one who openly climbs the war in Russia, I think is crazy. Now no one acts like that.
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 13: 25
                +6
                Quote: lonely
                the one who openly climbs the war in Russia, I think is crazy. Now no one acts like that.


                Here you are not Russian and do not meddle in our affairs! We will understand without snotty who is our friend and who is our enemy!

                Yeah, it won't climb, I'm just looking, and I see how YUSA won't climb to us! Yes, and people like you, sent Cossacks, do not come to us either! Throughout our history, "no one at all climbed" to us, do you think so ?!

                And in general you are tired of me! Before whom am I scattering beads here ?!
                1. atalef
                  atalef 30 January 2016 16: 00
                  -6
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Here you are not Russian and do not meddle in our affairs! We will understand without snotty who is our friend and who is our enemy!

                  Kadyrov is also not Russian wink
                  AND ? Dianochka laughing
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Yeah, it’s not climbing, I’m just looking, and I see how USA does not climb to us!

                  And as one grandmother noticed - Obama hands off our pensions !!!
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  And in general you are tired of me!

                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  I, to convulsions, hate these paskuds and traitors!

                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Every day we have extreme sports, how to survive from pay to pay!

                  He will stop the elephant on the go and his trunk will be torn off belay
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 18: 09
                    +8
                    Quote: atalef
                    He will stop the elephant on the go and his trunk will be torn off


                    And not only the trunk! Personally, I would also shorten the reproductive organ, just in case, so as not to bark towards Russia!
                  2. atalef
                    atalef 30 January 2016 19: 47
                    0
                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    And not only the trunk! Personally, I would also shorten the reproductive organ!

                    Dianochka, always at your service hi
                  3. andj61
                    andj61 30 January 2016 22: 05
                    +4
                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    Quote: atalef
                    He will stop the elephant on the go and his trunk will be torn off


                    And not only the trunk! Personally, I would also shorten the reproductive organ, just in case, so as not to bark towards Russia!

                    Don’t worry so much for him - he’s, apparently, also shortened, in the sense of circumcision - as it should according to the canon.
                    Just let me be curious: has he really learned to “bark” with this organ, as you deigned to say? repeat
                    Or will shortening allow it to somehow reduce it? what
                2. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 30 January 2016 19: 41
                  -6
                  Quote: atalef
                  He will stop the elephant on the go and his trunk will be torn off

                  Hi Sanya! Today, some people have an exacerbation, they can bite laughing
                3. atalef
                  atalef 30 January 2016 19: 53
                  -2
                  Quote: Bayonet
                  Quote: atalef
                  He will stop the elephant on the go and his trunk will be torn off

                  Hi Sanya! Today, some people have an exacerbation, they can bite laughing

                  Does Diana have that? Yes, she always has it, but I can’t imagine that during an exacerbation, it’s nothing but the monitor starts to bite.
                4. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 30 January 2016 20: 05
                  -7
                  Quote: atalef
                  Yes, she always does

                  That's right! laughing
                5. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 20: 10
                  +9
                  Quote: Bayonet
                  Quote: atalef
                  Yes, she always does

                  That's right! laughing


                  Were you smart ?! Well done ?! For more intelligence was not enough ?! But what about critical days and so on, what else can you show there from your mighty intellect ?!

                  Insulting a woman is not great valor for a man! Although, what kind of men are you ?! So, one name!
                6. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 30 January 2016 20: 23
                  -2
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Insulting a woman is not great valor for a man!

                  A woman - yes, but in this case - I don't see a woman! I see a terribly evil, tactless creature, dangerous to society! She even surpassed the men in aggression! So Atalef promised - "And not only the trunk! Personally, I would also shorten the genital organ for you!" This is certainly from the "mighty intellect"!hi
                7. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 20: 30
                  +7
                  Quote: Bayonet
                  A woman - yes, but in this case - I don’t see a woman! I see a terribly evil, tactless creature, dangerous to society! Even the men in aggression surpassed!hi


                  Well, I somehow did not expect another answer from you! When there is nothing to answer, we turn to insults! Typical behavior of a liberal Russophobe, neither mind nor imagination! What do you, in the State Department do not change manuals, everything is according to the old laminated scheme! If you can’t argue, go on insults! Well done! Go get the gingerbread!

                  P.S. Are you apparently distributing photographs of your wife and mistresses ?! It’s understandable, normal women will not let you in for a kilometer, they will suffocate from the stink!
                  You would tell about your attitude to women by our paratroopers, I would see how they would make a chop out of you!
                8. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 30 January 2016 20: 40
                  -2
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Typical behavior of a liberal Russophobe, neither mind nor imagination! What do you, in the State Department do not change manuals

                  For more mind was not enough? I’ll send you to the black list, and if I could, to the zoo! Good luck hi
                9. d.antonov
                  d.antonov 30 January 2016 21: 04
                  +2
                  Risking Alexander, I suppose and what you will shorten laughing
                10. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 21: 17
                  +7
                  Quote: d.antonov
                  Risking Alexander, I suppose and what you will shorten laughing


                  Do not worry, if necessary, then shorten the head. I’m very sorry that Putin is not Stalin. Otherwise, you would not be here!
                11. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 31 January 2016 11: 41
                  +2
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  I’m very sorry that Putin is not Stalin. Otherwise, you would not be here!

                  Baby .... Do not anger the Lord God, otherwise you will feel the fresh smell of the shaft sooner than it seems.
                  And slow down in communication with members of the forum, since you consider yourself a lady. Although used in the morning.
              2. Bayonet
                Bayonet 30 January 2016 21: 21
                +2
                Quote: d.antonov
                Risking Alexander, I suppose and what you will shorten

                Oh, don't say that! smile God forbid such a creature really meet! hi
              3. Victor-M
                Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 37
                -2
                Quote: Bayonet
                Quote: d.antonov
                Risking Alexander, I suppose and what you will shorten

                Oh, don't say that! smile God forbid such a creature really meet! hi

                Yes, you see every morning in the mirror you see, and nothing, it seems, like it. laughing
          2. atalef
            atalef 30 January 2016 22: 01
            +1
            Quote: Bayonet
            and if he could - to the zoo!

            Alexander, and then the animals have done something bad to you?
            They obviously have nothing to do with it.
            Just imagine, you sit in a cage to Amur and Timur - and the next day - both are bitten. wassat
          3. Bayonet
            Bayonet 31 January 2016 06: 58
            -1
            Quote: atalef
            Just imagine, you sit in a cage to Amur and Timur - and the next day - both are bitten.

            wassat good good good Have fun!
            Horror in the eyes of a tiger!
        2. Victor-M
          Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 36
          +4
          Quote: Bayonet
          For more mind was not enough? I’ll send you to the black list, and if I could, to the zoo! Good luck

          And introduce sanctions. laughing
      2. d.antonov
        d.antonov 30 January 2016 21: 02
        +2
        Do you have any kind of syndrome? Why do you have a million exclamation points in every message?
        And yes, the bayonet is right, you break into the topic and only woof-woof, everywhere liberals, Russophobes and malicious agents of Sishia.
        As for the transition to insults, where did such double standards come from? You a couple of hours ago, with no reason, comrade Lonely insulted, although he behaved quite restrained.

        You wanted to shorten something atalef there, act faster, otherwise there will be even more exclamation marks laughing
      3. ver_
        ver_ 31 January 2016 13: 23
        +5
        .. "to shame a liar, to make fun of a fool and to argue with a woman - all the same, that draw water with a sieve, God save the three ..." M.Yu. Lermontov.
    4. Victor-M
      Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 35
      +4
      Quote: Bayonet
      A woman - yes, but in this case - I don’t see a woman! I see a terribly evil, tactless creature, dangerous to society!

      Is that you about yourself? You see instead of the rite of circumcision, they either circumcised or not wink that you’re attacking a girl like that, she’s not to blame for this.
    5. Bayonet
      Bayonet 31 January 2016 07: 05
      -3
      Quote: Victor-M
      Is that you about yourself? You see instead of the rite of circumcision, you circumcised something,

      And I have everything in place! smile The Russians didn’t seem to accept this, but you didn’t get any brains! It is said that when God handed out to their peoples, measured them with a spoon, and we simply scooped up the remains with our hand and threw it - who got a lot and who didn’t! wink
  • atalef
    atalef 30 January 2016 21: 56
    -4
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    But what about critical days and so on, what else can you show there from your mighty intellect ?!

    Well, after menopause, as a rule, there are no watermelon days
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    Insulting a woman is not great valor for a man!

    Sorry, Diana, but if you put together a little bit of your comments, then to whom, to whom, and you definitely do not need protection, you will tear anyone up.
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    Although, what kind of men are you ?! So, one name!

    Well, this is what we are alike.
    We are not men, you are not a woman.
    Good luck Diana.
  • Victor-M
    Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 32
    +2
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    Were you smart ?! Well done ?! For more intelligence was not enough ?!

    Diana don't pay attention, these are our Jewish "friends". What to expect from them trolls. laughing
  • Diana Ilyina
    Diana Ilyina 31 January 2016 11: 29
    +8
    Quote: Victor-M
    Diana don't pay attention, these are our Jewish "friends". What to expect from them trolls. laughing


    Thank you Victor for your support! I would not rank them among the Jews. There are worthy people among this people, for example, Satanovsky. I love to listen to him, or the same Soloviev. And all the rest, it’s g * dy or goyim, who like it more.

    Yours!love
  • Victor-M
    Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 29
    +2
    Quote: Bayonet
    Quote: atalef
    He will stop the elephant on the go and his trunk will be torn off

    Hi Sanya! Today, some people have an exacerbation, they can bite laughing

    I thought so, "the chosen one." Now I'll put a minus, here's to you. laughing
  • Alf
    Alf 30 January 2016 16: 31
    +4
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    Here you are not Russian and do not meddle in our affairs! We will understand without snotty who is our friend and who is our enemy!

    Well done, Diana, respect! There are still women in Russian villages!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 January 2016 19: 44
      -4
      Quote: Alf
      There are still women in Russian villages
  • ty60
    ty60 30 January 2016 13: 56
    0
    Wring out they dream kem hi
  • ver_
    ver_ 31 January 2016 12: 55
    +1
    ... you would think that ordinary Poles or Swedes live very curly curly .., in all countries the so-called elite are eating ..., they don’t care about the rest ..
  • Alf
    Alf 30 January 2016 16: 28
    +9
    Quote: lonely
    Do you recall the 1st Chechen?

    It was not the Army that lost the first Chechen war, but the corrupt government of a dead eccentric with the letter "m".
    1. alone
      alone 30 January 2016 18: 37
      +1
      Quote: Alf
      It was not the Army that lost the first Chechen war, but the corrupt government of a dead eccentric with the letter "m".

      Well, what am I talking about? Current wars are being decided not on the battlefield, but by politicians behind the scenes.
  • Victor-M
    Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 25
    0
    Quote: lonely
    The Swedes will not attack. The bet is on defense

    Rather, in a pose, otherwise they would be silent.
  • andj61
    andj61 30 January 2016 22: 11
    +2
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    While in Russia, except for the Preobrazhensky and Semenovsky regiments, the entire army consisted of archers, long outdated, there was practically no artillery and there was absolutely no fleet!

    I don’t agree about artillery - Russia had a lot of guns, but there were no uniform standards for these guns. And the artillery - which was larger than that of the Swedes - was just lost near Narva ... And with the father of Peter, Alexei Mikhailovich, Russian artillery was considered one of the best in Europe.
  • Victor-M
    Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 23
    0
    Quote: lonely
    : Swedes have one of the best armies in Europe

    That is, unless you consider that they (the armies) of the EU members are almost gone, except for those forces that are designed to suppress internal unrest within the EU countries.
  • kotvov
    kotvov 31 January 2016 11: 42
    0
    The Swedes have one of the best armies in Europe and a very decent military-industrial complex. ,,
    Do you want to get into the black list? Immediately delete the post, SBU DOES NOT NAP laughing
  • Amurets
    Amurets 30 January 2016 12: 24
    +6
    After the wars of Sweden and Russia in the 18-19 centuries, Sweden again had an overabundance of men, It was time to weed. After the wars with Catherine and Alexadr 1, I had to call on the throne of the Gascon from Po Marshal of France Bernadotte who became King Charles XIV Johan, and now whom, the monkey from states?
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 30 January 2016 13: 00
      0
      Sweden again, an overabundance of men,
      ------------------------------------
      with a slight correction - "mostly gay." so that the euphonious title of the article would sound like: "Sweden will be stretched over .... Russia"
  • sichevik
    sichevik 30 January 2016 13: 00
    +2
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    The Swedes apparently have a short memory! After the campaign of Barclay de Tolly, Sweden lost Finland and for 200 years vowed to contact Russia! And what happened now, the Vikings have extra berserkers ?!

    So they have developed a tradition there in the West or it’s fun, I don’t understand. In every century, for some specific reason, they need to go to conquer Russia. Then get serious and specific lyuli there. Then meet in their capitals with bread and salt the Russian army and once again promise to fight with Russia.
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 13: 40
      +8
      Quote: sichevik
      So they have developed a tradition there in the West or it’s fun, I don’t understand. In every century, for some specific reason, they need to go to conquer Russia. Then get serious and specific lyuli there. Then meet in their capitals with bread and salt the Russian army and once again promise to fight with Russia.


      Yeah! It’s really a national European fun to get lyuley from Russians! They are bored there in Europe, not like ours! Every day we have extreme sports, how to survive from pay to pay! And this people, they want to intimidate with sanctions ?! Naive, Chukhon guys!
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 30 January 2016 15: 16
        +2
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Quote: sichevik
        So they have developed a tradition there in the West or it’s fun, I don’t understand. In every century, for some specific reason, they need to go to conquer Russia. Then get serious and specific lyuli there. Then meet in their capitals with bread and salt the Russian army and once again promise to fight with Russia.


        Yeah! It’s really a national European fun to get lyuley from Russians! They are bored there in Europe, not like ours! Every day we have extreme sports, how to survive from pay to pay! And this people, they want to intimidate with sanctions ?! Naive, Chukhon guys!

        Thanks Diana! Write everything correctly .. Omar you clearly put in place ..! good He already got me ..! My nerves can’t stand it ... THANKS! love
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 15: 43
          10
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Thanks Diana! Write everything correctly .. Omar you clearly put in place ..! good He already got me ..! My nerves can’t stand it ... THANKS! love


          It's my pleasure! Contact if that! I, to convulsions, hate these paskuds and traitors! love
          1. atalef
            atalef 31 January 2016 07: 11
            -2
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            I, to convulsions, hate these paskuds and traitors!

            Try to hang a portrait of Makarevich over the bed wink
            Due to new sensations, you may become less biting. hi
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 31 January 2016 11: 35
              +7
              Quote: atalef
              Try to hang a portrait of Makarevich over the bed wink
              Due to new sensations, you may become less biting. hi


              Do you have anything to do in Israel ?! You have no problems there ?! What do you climb on this site ?! What do you have to do with what is happening in Russia ?! Left and rejoice! Or nostalgia tortured ?!

              Bite?! Yes, I will tear your teeth, in case of war! I’ll go to the draft board with my brothers, do not hesitate!
              1. atalef
                atalef 31 January 2016 11: 42
                +2
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Do you have anything to do in Israel ?!

                What is the meaning of the question?
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                You have no problems there ?!

                I have practically none
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                What do you climb on this site ?!

                Diana, are you anyway who the hell would be to throw the flingers around, or do you think the presence of primary sexual characteristics automatically gives you intelligence, conscience and preferences?
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                What do you have to do with what is happening in Russia ?!

                Observer.
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Left and rejoice! Or nostalgia tortured ?!

                I never experienced nostalgia.
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Bite?! Yes, I will tear your teeth, in case of war

                Straightforward teeth?
                Do you have time to get them out of the glass?
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                I’ll go to the military registration and enlistment office with my brothers, do not hesitate

                Yes, I have no doubt.
                Like this . together with brother Napoleon and Kutuzov, the whole chamber and go.
                1. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 31 January 2016 12: 10
                  +7
                  atalef, I'll see how you tell my brother all this diarrhea in the eyes, "hero" rag!

                  Observer talking ?! So watch, silently! Until you have a false jaw!
                2. d.antonov
                  d.antonov 31 January 2016 12: 22
                  +3
                  Stop scaring everyone with your Tajik brothers, not interesting laughing
                3. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 31 January 2016 12: 32
                  +7
                  Quote: d.antonov
                  Stop scaring everyone with your Tajik brothers, not interesting laughing


                  Firstly, I do not scare! I just say that there is someone to stand up for me.
                  Secondly, about the "Tajiks", are you from your stupidity ?! For more, neither the mind nor the imagination was enough ?!
                  Thirdly, you have not yet been sent to the ban ?! Amazing
              2. atalef
                atalef 31 January 2016 12: 40
                +2
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                atalef, I'll see how you tell my brother all this diarrhea in the eyes, "hero" rag!

                which of the two?

                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Observer talking ?! So watch, silently!

                Will you indicate?
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Until you have a false jaw!

                enough health, bros?
              3. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 31 January 2016 13: 05
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                enough health, bros?

                Mdhhhhhhh ...
                Internet bros are cool ...
                wassat
                It seems that the days of crazy women have gone on the site - the other day the liberalist, today paid ...
                Where to go to the poor peasant? laughing
                Alexander ... Don’t be alarmed, although who knows these women ... what
              4. atalef
                atalef 31 January 2016 17: 07
                +1
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Alexander ... Don’t get scared, although who knows these women ...

                I live with a Ukrainian. I have not been afraid of anything for a long time.
  • alone
    alone 30 January 2016 18: 39
    +1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Thanks Diana! Write everything correctly .. Omar you clearly put in place ..! He already got me ..! My nerves can’t stand it ... THANKS!

    Take Actovegin Vitaliy and use less curry. Nerves will be in order laughing
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 19: 26
      +7
      Quote: lonely
      Take Actovegin Vitaliy and use less curry. Nerves will be in order laughing


      It is not for you, not Russian, to advise the Russian what to do on the Russian site!

      Take purgen helps a lot with verbal diarrhea! How do you like this advice ?!
  • ver_
    ver_ 31 January 2016 12: 45
    +1
    ... the roots of the Vikings in the Smolensk region .. - this nostalgia, however ..
  • oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 30 January 2016 11: 55
    +3
    Quote: NIKNN
    You won’t get involved, no one will pull you ...
    - After 300 neutral years, the guys got bored and wanted to drive ... Further: they will get tryndyuley and lie down again for 300 years. Imperial Bank: Scratch your chest with a blowtorch ...
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 12: 00
      +8
      Quote: oldseaman1957
      After 300 neutral years, the guys got bored and wanted to drive ... Further: they will get tryndyuley, they will lie down again for 300 years. Imperial Bank: Scratch your chest with a blowtorch ...


      Not 300, but 207 years! The last Russian-Swedish war ended in 1809! Sweden then lost Finland and no longer fought with Russia, declaring eternal neutrality!
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 30 January 2016 12: 09
        +3
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Not 300, but 207 years! The last Russian-Swedish war ended in 1809!
        - Got it. Clock with minutes can I find out?
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 30 January 2016 12: 22
          +9
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          I get it. Clock with minutes can I find out?


          Do not grumble, I just clarified! Just 300 years ago the Northern War was still going on, after which Sweden from a European superpower turned into a regional country, without the first army in Europe and the second in the world (after the British) fleet!
          1. zennon
            zennon 30 January 2016 18: 27
            +2
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Just 300 years ago the Northern War was still going on, after which Sweden from a European superpower turned into a regional country, without the first army in Europe and the second in the world (after the British) fleet!

            That's right. But in their case it's not bad. About 30 years ago, a book by their historian was published in Sweden. He scolded Charles 12 in every way, and praised ... Peter 1! The fact is that as a result of numerous wars, the Swedish population And after Poltava, the Swedes took up their minds. They built ports, roads, developed trade and became quite a prosperous country. I can't understand one thing, their bestial Russophobia. I had a friend in Sweden, in Malmö. She lived there for half a year. She says that no small Britain is nearly as different on this front as the Swedes! They really have not a good word about Russia! We, judging from their TV and newspapers, are just a fiend of hell! Crazy suspicion, Yes, just hatred! To her questions, what did we do to you, first a stupor, then not a long one, only 10 minutes, Scandinavians, thinking, and finally the remarks, "You don't like gays!
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Do not scream

            I don’t think so, but what can I say about all this ?!
        2. Victor-M
          Victor-M 31 January 2016 02: 40
          -1
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          I get it. Clock with minutes can I find out?

          And what will help somehow? laughing
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 31 January 2016 11: 52
            +1
            And what will help somehow? laughing ,,
            apparently wants time to count to the next trend smile
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 30 January 2016 13: 09
    +2
    Quote: NIKNN
    You won’t get involved, no one will pull you ...
    “The relations between the two countries have never been so tense,” she said.

    They themselves have already tried. And the relationship was already tense to none. How it ended - WE remember, and they?
  • cap
    cap 31 January 2016 04: 42
    +1
    Quote: NIKNN
    You won’t get involved, no one will pull you ... request

    a possible conflict with the Russian Federation may erupt due to some economic problems.

    Do not wish someone else ... request


    Nearly 300 years have passed, but history repeats itself, and the allies are the same.
    Sweden is certainly preparing, of course, and I don’t want how to get it on the hill in the old days.
    “The Northern War (Great Northern War, Twenty Years War) - a war that lasted from 1700 to 1721 between Sweden and a coalition of North European states for the possession of Baltic lands and ended in the defeat of Sweden.
    With the end of the war in Europe, a new empire appeared - the Russian Empire, which has access to the Baltic Sea and has a powerful army and navy. The capital of the empire was St. Petersburg, located at the confluence of the Neva River in the Baltic Sea.
    Initially, the Northern Union declared war on Sweden, created on the initiative of the Elector of Saxony and King of Poland Augustus II. The Danish-Norwegian kingdom, headed by King Christian V, and Russia, headed by Peter I, also entered the Northern Union.
    In 1700, after a series of swift Swedish victories, the Northern Union collapsed, Denmark withdrew from the war in 1700, and Saxony - in 1706. After that, until 1709, when the Northern Union was restored, the Russian state fought against the Swedes mainly on their own. At different stages in the war also took part: on the side of Russia - Hanover, Holland, Prussia; on the side of Sweden - England (from 1707 - Great Britain), the Ottoman Empire, Holstein. Ukrainian Cossacks, including Zaporizhzhya Cossacks, divided and partially supported the Swedes and Turks, but mostly Russian troops. "Russia regained control of the ancient Russian lands (estates) in the Baltic States, lost in the Time of Troubles."
  • Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 31 January 2016 08: 35
    +1
    And what? Does the dude understand that gameripeda will force them to fight with us? laughing
    And didn’t you try to refuse such an enviable role? Just after the war with Russia, Sweden, as a subject and as a country, as a nation and as a state, will cease to exist. Even if someone survives, the ethnos will never be reborn.
    There, the total population is less than 10 million. In the St. Petersburg volost and its environs, even more.
    Dude generally understands what he says and what risks? There will be no Swedes on the planet!
    Although we’re unlikely to have time, Arabs and niggas will cut them there smile
  • SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 30 January 2016 11: 45
    +8
    General Brenström:

    Dumb some kind of general.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 30 January 2016 12: 10
      +4
      Dumb some general ............................................. .Blue fear lost!
    2. cergey51046
      cergey51046 30 January 2016 14: 51
      0
      Brech-strёm = nonsense dumb.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 30 January 2016 12: 33
    0
    General Brenstrom began to develop paranoid schizophrenia.
  • Rezident007
    Rezident007 30 January 2016 12: 38
    0
    Well, well ... just try - go to us, two hundred years later you will live a peaceful life, lick your wounds .. And we don’t need you, sir
  • mg1503
    mg1503 30 January 2016 14: 29
    +1
    Gentlemen, NATO generals, do not waste dollars on raising the morale of the army, it is better to jump out the window right away, and do not forget to shout heart-rendingly: "Ruuusskie are coming !!!"
  • Altona
    Altona 30 January 2016 14: 35
    0
    Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
    need to come to sweden

    ----------------
    I would have fought some fair-haired Swede ... My hands are itching to fight with Sweden ... My grandfather also fought with one Finnish woman after 1940 ... laughing hi
    1. Siberia M 54
      Siberia M 54 30 January 2016 21: 00
      +2
      That's right. They need to correct their demographics. They have a shortage of men, mostly roosters. That's where they moan, Ah well, occupy us soon! smile
  • go21zd45few
    go21zd45few 30 January 2016 15: 03
    0
    The Swedes have a short memory, they don’t remember Poltava, so what can we do for a second or final lesson.
  • valokordin
    valokordin 30 January 2016 15: 54
    0
    Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
    There was a halva for gays chasing! In Sweden you need to come with rubber gloves and with an ax in your hands

    Swede, Russian tunes, chopping, cutting ... but obviously fighting happiness .. smiles at us. And for the health of teachers for a healthy cup raises. Thanks Carlos 12, We remember Narva and Poltava, it's time to visit Stockholm.
  • lexx2038
    lexx2038 30 January 2016 11: 36
    +8
    Are the Swedes tired of a good life? Look for a rake. Learn the story.
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 30 January 2016 11: 45
      +5
      Quote: lexx2038
      Learn the story

      Did the Swedes relax, since Poltava is now in Ukraine? Nothing, we'll find another place to repeat the lesson. And in Sweden itself. "The Battle of Stockholm", for example, also sounds nothing. Or the expression "hit like a Swede near Gothenburg" is also normal.
      It’s evident that our old tradition doesn’t change - every century, have a drink .. uh .. to dare the next Western hunters to the Russian land.
      1. faridg7
        faridg7 30 January 2016 13: 58
        +2
        Yes, calm down - there will be no battle. After the pack of mongrels finally dares from the choral yapping and climbs onto the bear, there will be a series of launches, a thunderclap and silence.
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 30 January 2016 11: 54
      +2
      Quote: lexx2038
      Look for a rake.

      Recently, at one forum dedicated to wargames, I came across a post already from 2009, where a person offered his script for playing the Combat Mission series and databases, according to him, they passed on the territory of Ukraine.
      Of course, he did not predict the events exactly, somewhere he guessed (with dates, in general, he guessed), somewhere he didn’t, but it describes events that could still happen - of course, adjusted for the current reality.
      I will not copy-paste the post, because it is quite large, but those who are interested can read it here:
      http://cmbb.borda.ru/?1-14-0-00000013-000-0-0-1262145597
  • wolf1945
    wolf1945 30 January 2016 11: 37
    +3
    There will be a second Poltava to the Swedes! hi
    1. PValery53
      PValery53 30 January 2016 11: 45
      +3
      Why go so far? - With the current "instruments", the whole of Sweden can be turned into Poltava.
    2. Pajamas
      Pajamas 30 January 2016 11: 58
      +2
      Do not wake Likho while sleeping quietly, but I definitely would not want to fight Sweden, there is, personal, opinion that this is the most combat-trained and technically equipped army of the Scandinavian Peninsula.
  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 30 January 2016 11: 37
    +1
    It’s like giving a bartender !!!
  • jaguarstas
    jaguarstas 30 January 2016 11: 38
    +1
    Stop calling trouble on your own head. If you talk about it so often, then someday it will happen.
    1. ty60
      ty60 30 January 2016 14: 01
      0
      My friend, asking cabbage for an extra portion of the budget can be done only in one way, with wild cries RUSSIANS GO! Everything is simple and trivial like a stool.
    2. ty60
      ty60 30 January 2016 14: 01
      0
      My friend, asking cabbage for an extra portion of the budget can be done only in one way, with wild cries RUSSIANS GO! Everything is simple and trivial like a stool.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 January 2016 11: 39
    0
    the country needs to prepare for war with the Russian Federation

    What is this - another stupidity of a dim-witted general or a "Swedish complex" since the time of Charles XII?
  • HAM
    HAM 30 January 2016 11: 40
    +1
    200 years ago, they knowingly shook them, probably, they need a new portion for the next 200 years, so that their brains brighten up. If only ...
    1. Hey
      Hey 30 January 2016 13: 15
      +1
      US no offense. 300 years ago, even a little more.
      the largest battle of the Northern War between the Russian troops under the command of Peter I and the Swedish army of Charles XII. Held on the morning of June 27 (July 8), 1709 (June 28 according to the Swedish calendar) 6 miles from the city of Poltava (Hetman).
      1. HAM
        HAM 30 January 2016 13: 22
        0
        This is what "Swedish propaganda" means about 200 years of peace, I already forgot the numbers .... thank you! hi
  • Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 30 January 2016 11: 40
    +3
    There was a command from the "big brother" - to get rid of, so they got rid of it. Almost out of the blue, without any preconditions, and now they are justified. Political pygmies.
  • Woodman
    Woodman 30 January 2016 11: 42
    +3
    Judging by the body of such reports, one might think that in Europe there is a purposeful preparation of public opinion for the war against Russia ... But one hopes that in this way they simply distract the attention of their own population from problems with migrants.
  • O. Bender
    O. Bender 30 January 2016 11: 42
    +1
    Margot apparently is experiencing stress due to lack of demand on the part of men. Here and transposes personal on the field of foreign policy. What kind of graters can we have with the Swedes besides hockey?
  • Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 30 January 2016 11: 42
    +3
    Carlson raging?
  • The black
    The black 30 January 2016 11: 43
    +3
    In my opinion, the Swedish generals learned to deftly milk their government (read citizens) smile . Then they were looking for a boat for the Navy, which they never found, and now the land explorer drew. We are waiting for the speech of the commander of the Swedish Air Force about unidentified flying objects with a portrait of Putin. laughing .... In short, the generals hint at the need to increase their salaries ... laughing
    1. wasil
      wasil 30 January 2016 11: 50
      0
      here and I about the same laughing
  • svp67
    svp67 30 January 2016 11: 43
    +3
    According to Widman, a possible conflict with the Russian Federation could break out due to certain economic problems.
    Didn't understand in Russia that they decided to ban Ikea?
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 30 January 2016 11: 46
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Didn't understand in Russia that they decided to ban Ikea?

      No, on the contrary, in projects, the discovery of several hypers over 5 years)
      1. svp67
        svp67 30 January 2016 11: 48
        +1
        Quote: chikenous59
        No, on the contrary, in projects, the discovery of several hypers over 5 years)

        Then what economic problems did the Swedes see?
  • SklochPensioner
    SklochPensioner 30 January 2016 11: 45
    +2
    "He calls for" to raise military spirit and strengthen the cohesion of the ranks of the armed forces. "

    Well, well, just let him go, for a start, to the monument to Karl XII. The Swedes themselves, if I'm not mistaken, say a lot about this figure, and, in particular: "I was there and I do not advise you."
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 January 2016 11: 46
    +1
    General, be sure to get ready, buy a place in the cemetery, flowers, wreaths, so that everything is as it should be, otherwise relatives will have to run as mad, because during the war everything will be in short supply. Or immediately surrender, this will protect you and your loved ones from emotional trauma and unnecessary expenses, you look and wait until the grandchildren become adults, give them the experience. Well, as a last resort, read about the battle of Poltava, probably King Karl left some memories. With all my heart to all Swedes.
  • izya top
    izya top 30 January 2016 11: 47
    +6
    "Experiencing military aggression from Russia."
    it's like? what have we attacked already? belay
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 30 January 2016 12: 36
      +1
      Quote: izya top
      What is it like? have we attacked already?

      No, we are just ready to defend our Motherland and do not submit to the dictatorship of the "civilized world" in the person of the United States - they know this and it infuriates them terribly.

      If only the whole country would have stood in front of them with cancer and spread the rolls (as representatives of one almost European country did), then we would have been a harmless, humble state.
      I do not write the word "allied" because in their system there are no allies, there are only slaves.
  • Moonsund
    Moonsund 30 January 2016 11: 47
    +7
    After the defeat from Russia in the war of 1808-09. the former European superpower Sweden no longer fought. The Swedish Ground Forces in peacetime include only training battalions of various types, there are no regular units in them. The tank fleet includes 106 Strv122 (Leopard 2A5) and 12 Strv121 (Leopard 2A4). Another 14 Strv122 and 142 Strv121 are apparently in storage. The Air Force has 75 JAS-39C / D "Grippen" fighters (61 C, 14 D). Well, the Navy is not bad yet. The addition of three dead cats is not equivalent to one living, the question is rhetorical: "are they and d and o s ???" what
  • wasil
    wasil 30 January 2016 11: 48
    +2
    another reason to shake money from the treasury of your state for an imaginary war and receive "bonuses" from the customer ...
  • Pressing
    Pressing 30 January 2016 11: 49
    0
    De beat. Very polite. But intelligibly
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 January 2016 11: 49
    +5
    Amazing insight. We don't even have a common border. Or are they hinting that during the seizure of the Scandinavian Peninsula we will also take Sweden? Do we need it? What have we forgotten there? Northern territories - there are more than enough of their own, their gays - and not for nothing. And on theirs Carlsons we have "Tunguska" laughing
    In general, we do not need them anywhere. Is it possible to fix the gene pool, well, tourism exists for this, and it’s not necessary on tanks ...
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 30 January 2016 12: 20
      0
      After calibers and iskanders, tourism on tanks would have been the most, otherwise gay men lack emotions!
  • V.ic
    V.ic 30 January 2016 11: 50
    +1
    Question to the Swedish minister: did many Finns, independently and in alliance with Germany, fight against the USSR? What kind of war would it be with Finland between us? The Russians can launch a real submarine into the skerries to make the Swedes waste all the toilet paper. The Russian fleet, without leaving its bases, can "calibrate" the territory of Sweden f * ck / Twenty-third letter of the Slavic alphabet "her" /.
  • gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 30 January 2016 11: 51
    +5
    We must not forget that Sweden is a 17th century superpower, it included directly Sweden, northern Germany, periodically Denmark, Norway and Finland. And when the Swedes tear eastern Europe into pieces and build a Protestant empire, the obscure Moscow formation kills the Swedish lion in dawn of strength. After that, for another hundred years, several attempts to take revenge discourage any desire to fight. But all these two hundred years of neutrality at the genetic level in every Swede have a memory of past greatness, lost geopolitical opportunities and hatred of those who landed them.
  • Nick888
    Nick888 30 January 2016 11: 54
    0
    In September, the head of the Swedish Foreign Ministry, Margot Wallström, announced the “serious problems in relations between Stockholm and Moscow.” “The relations between the two countries have never been so tense,” she noted.

    Themselves add fuel to the fire, of course they will be tense.
  • ochakow703
    ochakow703 30 January 2016 11: 55
    +2
    "After Peter I conquered a part of Livonia from Charles XII and founded a new fortress city of St. Petersburg at the mouth of the Neva, Charles decided to attack central Russia with the capture of Moscow. During the campaign, he decided to lead his army to Little Russia, hetman which - Mazepa - went over to Karl's side, but was not supported by the main mass of the Cossacks.By the time Karl's army approached Poltava, he lost up to a third of the army, his rear was attacked by Peter's light cavalry - Cossacks and Kalmyks, before the battle itself was Karl lost the battle and fled to the Ottoman Empire. "
    How the cards went! And the Swedes suddenly became militant, and "Mazepa" is, and the Ottoman Empire is in business. You can, of course, describe in more detail the outcome of the Swedish adventures, but it's a pity for Anders Brenström's bellicosity pedi.ka, let the boy feel like "top".
  • kursk87
    kursk87 30 January 2016 11: 56
    +4
    Swedish taxpayers get ready to pay a large sum to deal with the imaginary threat in the face of Russia!
  • Bakht
    Bakht 30 January 2016 11: 57
    +3
    At dawn on March 7, 1809, the sweet sleep of the inhabitants of the Swedish capital was interrupted by the terrible news: "Russian Cossacks at the gates!" Not only for Stockholm inhabitants, but also for the royal court of Sweden, it was like a bolt from the blue.
  • afrikanez
    afrikanez 30 January 2016 11: 58
    +1
    "Experiencing military aggression from Russia."
    It is interesting and what is this aggression? Less senility and more real assessment of things and everything will be fine. There is nothing to frighten people.
    1. faridg7
      faridg7 30 January 2016 14: 11
      +2
      Well, what’s the matter? The country is huge, doesn’t want to fall apart, for fossils and the forest wants payment. Is this not enough?
  • newcomer
    newcomer 30 January 2016 11: 59
    +3
    Swedes are crazy? apparently they want to stay with a broken, pardon, bombed trough.
  • MarKon
    MarKon 30 January 2016 12: 01
    +1
    didn’t the submarine swim again, or did our pilot show a half-elbow?)
  • 1536
    1536 30 January 2016 12: 01
    +1
    Their fear is understandable. Let's imagine that we have captured Sweden with all the giblets. In each of our families, Swedes or Swedes began to work in the service, in the position of slaves. Swedes sweep the streets and clean them of snow, rake out garbage dumps. The prospect for the Swedes of Russia, in a word, is unenviable. Apparently, the "proud" Swedes preferred to die than live in captivity.
  • red joni
    red joni 30 January 2016 12: 01
    -1
    And our tanks are fast and the border on the castle, with a sword to stick from the sword and perish. soldier
  • LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 30 January 2016 12: 03
    +4
    And why did they jump off the topic of our submarines? Have you played the record yet? And I still play "vinyl" ABBA ... And in our General Staff they know about our plans about our war with not our Sweden? Let this little book be sent.
  • ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 30 January 2016 12: 06
    0
    "After 200 years of peaceful life, Sweden must mentally prepare for a possible military conflict with our participation."
    Masochists! Forgotten "Lyuli Poltava" ?! I would like to remember blood, loss, shame and humiliation ?! recourse
  • rusaiaiBishkek
    rusaiaiBishkek 30 January 2016 12: 07
    -1
    where do these midgets climb. tired of living, or thus hinting at the fact that the Russian Federation has attached them to itself. :)
  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 30 January 2016 12: 09
    +6
    Well, about the morale of the Swedish warriors, I don’t know, but they look curious. A typical example of a Swedish warrior is a woman in trousers, with a big ass and dyed hair loose under the cap. They are allowed to go home for the weekend. In the spirit of tolerance, there are units for lesbians. In a word - Poltava, gentlemen!
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 30 January 2016 12: 24
      -1
      I think Stockholm gentlemen will be more correct!
    2. Wheel
      Wheel 30 January 2016 12: 41
      +2
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      A typical example of a Swedish warrior is a woman in trousers, with a big ass and dyed hair loose under the cap.

      Photos in the topic (only in the Swedish army there are no caps)
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 30 January 2016 13: 04
        0
        no! I clearly see, there is!
      2. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 30 January 2016 13: 31
        0
        To blame. confused with the police, there are also women of the type I described above, but these are definitely in caps. Helmeted men in Sweden perform on guard of honor at the royal palace.
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 30 January 2016 16: 18
        0
        Quote: Wheel
        Photos in the topic (only in the Swedish army there are no caps)

        Why did you choose this unwashed one? laughing
  • acetophenon
    acetophenon 30 January 2016 12: 10
    +2
    And what, in fact, does Sweden need from us? Or - to us from them?
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 30 January 2016 12: 49
      +2
      Quote: acetophenon
      And what, in fact, does Sweden need from us? Or - to us from them?


      Generally, in Sweden, "socialism with a human face", in the sense in relation to the common people. It would be like this with us, we would not have wished for anything better. But alas, so can we take the experience, eh?
    2. Pirogov
      Pirogov 30 January 2016 18: 27
      0
      I wouldn’t refuse a couple of blondes!
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 30 January 2016 12: 12
    +4
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    "Sweden is not part of the NATO bloc," however, "it is experiencing military aggression from Russia."

    ?? What are we doing in Sweden? Who is in the know?
    1. 72jora72
      72jora72 30 January 2016 18: 26
      +3
      ?? What are we doing in Sweden? Who is in the know?
      We don’t do anything. Just this hour, every schizoid-oligophren can not resist not to express some sort of next nonsense .....
    2. Alf
      Alf 30 January 2016 18: 56
      +2
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      ?? What are we doing in Sweden? Who is in the know?

      We do nothing. This is a shame for the Swedes. And then Crimea was annexed, whole divisions are fighting in the Donbass, Sprotii will be seized, and they forgot about the descendants of the Vikings. Although what kind of "descendants" they are - so, one name ...
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  • staryivoin
    staryivoin 30 January 2016 12: 13
    +1
    “The relations between the two countries have never been so tense,” says Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallström.
    - If you are very tense you need to visit the room with the inscription WC.
  • Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 30 January 2016 12: 19
    +2
    "Experiencing military aggression from Russia."


    It is possible to give a lot of arguments that no one is going to attack them ... But, well, I’m interesting to get a reasonable answer, what is the military aggression that Sweden is experiencing ??? request
  • taseka
    taseka 30 January 2016 12: 20
    +8
    "however" is experiencing military aggression from Russia. " - they are just debiloids !!!!
  • Vantal
    Vantal 30 January 2016 12: 22
    0
    The Swedes urgently need to learn history .... And then a little forgotten.

    Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword! A. Nevsky
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 31 January 2016 13: 16
      0
      Quote: Vantal
      Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword! A. Nevsky


      No, to them, after almost four hundred and fifty years, Peter I explained in 1709. But apparently it doesn’t reach, and 74 years ago they were much smarter. Finish, the Scandinavian beak will break off from Oyropa.
  • Funnels
    Funnels 30 January 2016 12: 24
    +3
    There will be no neutral countries in the next war. The Swedes simply make their choice which side to take.
  • wow
    wow 30 January 2016 12: 25
    +1
    Che, life is bad !? These "Western partners" have already gotten fed up with their "democracy and tolerance." As an officer in the "eleventh" generation, he is not bloodthirsty, but in this war there should not be any prisoners or wounded (on treatment).
  • Wolverine
    Wolverine 30 January 2016 12: 30
    0
    In September, the head of the Swedish Foreign Ministry, Margot Wallström, announced the “serious problems in relations between Stockholm and Moscow.” “The relations between the two countries have never been so tense,” she noted.

    Yes, there is no threat to your asses from our side, the USA has long had you in a perverted form ... wassat
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 30 January 2016 12: 34
    +1
    Sweden will only be involved in a war if there is a world war.

    And only the USA can start a world war; it is clear that not with their own hands, but only they.

    So let the heirs of Charles 12 ask their friends why they are setting fire to a war in which there may be no winners, no states, no civilization, no people at all.
  • gg.na
    gg.na 30 January 2016 12: 35
    +2
    How does it sound in one verse of A.S. Pushkin? - "Hurray! We are breaking! Swedes are bending!" They forgot that what is it ?! I do not understand request I am!!!
  • TOR2
    TOR2 30 January 2016 12: 35
    +2
    The schizoid state never left. If you recall at least the 80s. As Chernavin said, they were chasing after an object that maneuvered under water at a speed of 300 km / h. Released on it an ultramodern torpedo which flew away do not understand where. And then they expressed us notes of protest and demanded that the torpedo be returned. So many years have passed, but nothing has changed.
  • edeligor
    edeligor 30 January 2016 12: 36
    +1
    This is very sad, I do not want to say hackneyed slogans. Unleashed by Obama and his vassals, the persecution of our country continues. The question of when and how it ends remains open. Sometimes it begins to seem to me that in this shrunken Europe they are ready to justify the Daesh cut-throats, the insane Erdogan, their pedophiles ... But THEY HATE RUSSIA FROM THE SOUL !!! The question is for what, most likely none of them will be able to answer it.
  • S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 30 January 2016 12: 38
    +4
    In the same place, in Stockholm, there is a monument to Karl 12 and he points towards Rosiii: do not go there, I got such a star there! wink
  • Michael67
    Michael67 30 January 2016 12: 40
    +2
    Why is it incomprehensible? The West has everything according to plan. Recently, they caught our SMPL. Caught, caught, but not caught. They also say that they found some tracks from caterpillars at the bottom of their cradles. There was a tantrum. Like Russian submarine tanks, the Shvetskii almost did not go ashore. Everything for the victory of the brain of the electorate. And under the approval of the population, you can open any programs, cut the loot, lick staff members (they have a lot of specialists). Well, it seems like in the general choir against GREAT RUSSIA.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 30 January 2016 17: 00
      +1
      Quote: Michael67
      Why is it incomprehensible? The West has everything according to plan. Recently, they caught our SMPL. Caught, caught, but not caught. They also say that they found some tracks from caterpillars at the bottom of their cradles.

      What are you talking about? Have you not heard that the Scots have a tragedy? The Loch Ness monster escaped from Loch Ness, because there is nothing to eat and tourists do not give rest. Now this monster catches LOKHOV off the coast of Sweden. And tracks of tracks? So it's immoderate consumption Jinnah: That from drunken eyes does not fancy, here they took the traces of a monster, for which they took without measure.