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Second Middle East Gambit of Russia

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Second Middle East Gambit of Russia



There are many things in the world, Horatio's friend,
which our sages never dreamed of.

W. Shakespeare, Hamlet, Act I, Scene IV

The entire global information space is now full news and analytical articles about Syria and the Middle East. Numerous analysts, experts, bloggers have written mountains of sheets and gigabytes of articles describing what, how, in the name of what, why and why. There is a full range of explanations in the Russian infosphere for why Putin and Russia got involved in the war in Syria - from the moans about the rout, the drain of Russia and New Russia, the collapse of the economy to the cheers-patriotic slogans about the brotherhood of peoples, historical the mission of Russia, the protection of all good people and world peace. But no one knows for sure, but in fact - for what?

The president himself speaks about international peace, law, protection of the existing world order from chaos, protection of economic interests of Russia, the fight against international terrorism and the protection of it Russian. The objectives of the right, good and reasonable. But precisely because of the fact that so many of them, and it seems that none of them is not decisive in the decision.

Of course, there is one, the main goal, which many experts and analysts will not know about in the near future. If ever find out.

Putin is playing a game on the global chessboard that has been around for more than one millennium. And when this game ends, God alone knows. As in any chess game, Putin plays long-term multi-moves, the effect of which can manifest itself after years and decades. The current operation is very similar to a chess gambit, when yielding at some point the quality, the player eventually wins the game.

Of course, Russia's foreign policy interests can in no way be considered in isolation from domestic ones. But it would be a huge mistake to close only on them. The situation on the board is now when the world order changes qualitatively, moving to the next new level. New forces, new circumstances, opportunities and qualities come into play.

The previous break in the world order occurred immediately after the Second World War with the acquisition of the leading powers of nuclear weapons. Russia, as now, was far behind the United States in its production, just a few years. And these few years had to be survived, and so experienced, so that the opponent would not be tempted to use this nuclear weapon, while remaining unpunished. That is, the USSR for a few years had to find leverage, alternative and asymmetric levers.

And then the leader of the USSR, Stalin, carried out an operation, which can be called the first Middle East gambit of Russia.

Creation of the State of Israel




There are many theories of varying degrees of probability and reliability, as the Soviet Union managed to obtain and produce nuclear weapons. According to the official version, it was created and produced in the absence of funds, technological base, in conditions of war and devastation by a small team of fanatical scientists in the taiga in secret secret "sharashkas" under the superpower of Beria. Possibly, albeit unlikely.

There is more information and even films about that in the year 1939, when meeting in person with Stalin, Robert Oppenheimer proposed to the Soviet Union an atomic project that guaranteed obtaining nuclear weapons for 10 years. This required gigantic investment and the creation of an entire “medium machine-building” industry with scientific and technological bases. On the eve of World War II, the country could not afford this. And then it was decided that Oppenheimer would help lead the American nuclear project, and the Soviet side would receive all the necessary data first-hand.

Oppenheimer, who had never concealed his communist views and sympathy for the USSR, had to be protected in every way. This explains the cover-up operations in the form of “Kremlin agents” exposed by the FBI, like the spouses of Rosenbergs.

But even with this version of the USSR received a valid nuclear device only a few years after the United States. Under the nuclear bomb of the Americans, it was necessary to lay a non-nuclear bomb for several years. And this was the Middle East bomb.

At the beginning of the war, the Soviet Union began to work on helping to create a Jewish state in Palestine, as opposed to full British rule in this region. The British Expeditionary Corps was stationed in Palestine, with the help of which any attempts of the Jewish population to create their own state were blocked. It was necessary to strengthen the existing militarized (extremist) Jewish formations, to give them people and weapons, and at the initial stage to open a terrorist war against the British in Palestine.

After the start of World War II, hundreds of thousands of Jews turned out to be on the territory of the USSR — refugees from Poland, Moldova, the western regions of Ukraine and Belarus. After a long ordeal, most of them ended up in Central Asia in Tashkent. Hence the common expression about the “Tashkent front”. Also on the territory of the USSR were many prisoners of war and interned soldiers, officers and generals of the Polish Army. Of these, by agreement and the insistence of the West, the Polish army of Anders was formed. At the end of August 1941, in the villages of Totsky (Chkalov region) and Tatishchev (Saratov region) as well as in the city of Buzuluk, the formation of two rifle divisions and one regiment with a total number of 25 000 people began. In December, 1941 reached an agreement with the government of the USSR on the creation of an already 7 Polish division, numbering up to 96 000 people with the possibility of their further withdrawal to Iran. Central Asia was headquartered with a headquarters in the village of Vrevsky Tashkent region.



In spite of strong anti-Semitic sentiments in the Polish environment, the Jews, former citizens of Poland, began to be massively directed by the Soviet government to form Anders’s army. The process became so widespread that, according to Anders himself, in the Polish formations in Totsky and Tatischev the percentage of Jews was 60%, and according to the first Polish Ambassador to the USSR Stanislav Kota - 40%.

At the beginning of the formation of the army of Anders, even the idea of ​​creating a separate "Jewish Legion" in its composition arose. However, due to the position of the leadership of the army, this idea was buried.

The Polish command asked the Soviet government not to send so many Jews to them and set up an unspoken wall when they passed medical commissions.

Of course, a certain number of Jews who joined the army of Anders had excellent military training and experience, which were very useful to them in the partisan war against the British in Palestine.

During the two evacuations from March to September 1942, more than 75 000 soldiers and 37 000 civilians were evacuated from the USSR, among whom were famous people. Occupied later major positions in the future state of Israel. Do we need to say that a significant part of the soldiers and the overwhelming majority of civilians were Jews, who after arriving in Iran moved to Palestine, where they joined the ranks of Jewish militias? From this point on, Jewish resistance to the British occupying forces in Palestine began to increase. The culmination of the partisan war was the explosion of the Tsar David hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the British administration, who buried including very unpleasant documents for the USSR captured by the British during the so-called. "Black saturday".

The first phase of Stalin’s plan was successfully completed. The British and Americans got a rapidly burning conflict in the main oil transportation hub to England and the United States.

16 July 1945 in the United States in the desert near Alamogordo (New Mexico), the first nuclear explosive device, Gadget, was tested. The Soviet Union became confronted with a real nuclear war, and the second part of the plan to curb American nuclear ambitions began.

Already 6 July 1945 between the Provisional Government of the National Unity of the Polish Republic and the USSR Government concluded an agreement on the right for citizens of Polish and Jewish nationality residing in the USSR to leave the Soviet citizenship. And already September 4 of 1946, Deputy Commissioner of the USSR Council of Ministers for Repatriation Affairs Lieutenant-General Golubev informed Andrei Andreyevich Smirnov, head of the 3 European Department of the Foreign Ministry:

“I inform you for the information that, according to the repatriation representative in Austria Colonel Starov, from Poland through the territory of Czechoslovakia and the Soviet zone of Austria began the transit of Jews heading for Palestine. In total, the Jews should proceed to Palestine 200 000 ... According to reports, transports are sent to the American zone of occupation in Munich, where a collection point is allegedly organized to send them to Palestine ... "

The agreement concluded with Poland allowed to recruit and ship to Palestine any number of military experts from any country in the world. So that Jews arriving from the USSR would not want to stay in Poland, in the latter several indicative "pogroms" organized by the Poles took place. And the flow of immigrants to Palestine has become a deep river. According to some reports, more than 200 000 people were thus moved.
The guerrilla war in Palestine and, as a result, the strangulation of oil production and the transportation of oil to Europe and the United States did their job. The winter of 46-47 in Britain was harsh, and in the conditions of the most severe energy crisis and the post-war devastation, the British were desperately cold. In addition, Stalin increased the pressure on the British allies - Arab countries, supporting the opposition in the League of Arab States and Iraqi Kurds.

The goal was soon achieved: Britain abandoned the Mandate for Palestine and transferred the solution of this issue to the UN at the mercy of two states, the USSR and the USA. At that moment, President Truman was in no mood for Palestine even after Gromyko’s historic speech, 26 on November 1947, at the UN General Assembly on Palestine, which all world Jewish media outlined in admiration, it was decided to create the State of Israel.

Now the question of supporting Israel in its struggle against Britain and the Arab countries could be solved more easily and significantly more.

And the work began to boil. Few people know that the elite part of the IDF Israel Defense Forces Army "Golani Brigade" was originally called the "Gottwald Brigade" and began to form in Czechoslovakia. Nahum Goldman, President of the World Zionist Organization, wrote:

“Without the Soviet Union, the state of Israel would not exist at all. And not so much because the Russians voted for its creation, but rather because during the Arab invasion of 1948-1949, all the weapons of Israel were received from the communist countries. ”

Palestinian Jews appealed to the Soviet representatives. Future Minister of Foreign Affairs of Israel, born in Kherson, Moshe Shertok 5 February 1948, in an interview with Andrei Gromyko, USSR Permanent Representative to the UN, asked the Soviet leadership to help with weapons. By that time, Stalin had already given the order to arm the Palestinian Jews.



A large number of all types of weapons were sent to Israel through Czechoslovakia, including mortars, artillery and German Messerschmitt captured fighters. Most of the weapons and ammunition were from stocks of German captured weapons, which removed the question of who supplies weapons to Palestinian Jews. Earlier military commanders had something to fight. By the way, the Czechs earned good money by selling their own weapons made at the Škoda and ChZ factories.

This violated the arms embargo on the Middle East, which the United States achieved through the UN. But not only did the USSR violate the embargo, it also violated England, supplying not only the Arab countries, but also transferring weapons to the Palestinian Arabs.

And in the same Czechoslovakia, new and new military experts were prepared and transferred to Palestine and then to Israel (after 14 in May 1948): future Jewish aces got to know the planes that were to be piloted at the airfield in Ceske Budejovice. There, in Ceske Budejovice, tankers and paratroopers were trained. One and a half thousand infantrymen of the Israel Defense Forces were taught in Olomouc, another two thousand in Mikulov. Of them formed a part, which was originally called "Brigade them. Gottwald ", the brigade was transferred to Palestine through Italy. The medical staff was taught in Velk-Ströbn. Radio operators and telegraph operators - in Liberec. Electrical engineers - in Pardubice. Soviet instructors gave lectures on political topics to young Israelis.

The commander of the Gottwald Brigade, or the secret division of DI, was Hero of the Soviet Union, Major Antonin Sokhor. The initial backbone of the brigade consisted of veterans of Jewish nationality 1-th Czechoslovak army corps. In full secrecy, the brigade was formed at a military base near the city of Libau, which is not far from Olomouc. In mid-November 1948, the brigade was secretly transferred to Israel. According to some information, Sohora became an adviser to the operations department of the General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces.





The airfield in Ceske Budejovice was allocated to send weapons and equipment to Palestinian Jews. They received artillery and mortars, German Messerschmit fighters and English Spitfires. The former military pilots, veterans of World War II flew along the route Czechoslovakia - Palestine. Most were Americans. They illegally came to Czechoslovakia, because the US State Department did not issue permits for this. The air bridge operated from Czechoslovakia through the territory of Yugoslavia. Pressure was exerted on Yugoslavia, Romania, and Bulgaria by the Soviet Union to stop the supply of arms and equipment to the Arabs.

In Romania and Bulgaria, Soviet representatives trained officers for the Israel Defense Forces. Moreover, preparations began for Soviet military units to be transferred to Palestine to help Israel. Twice Hero of the Soviet Union tanker David Dragunsky proposed to form a division and transfer it to Palestine. However, later on these plans, Stalin refused.

As a result, Israel was able to fight off Arab attacks, and the West at the main oil production and transportation hub received a long-standing non-stop armed conflict.

29 August 1949 of the USSR tested its atomic bomb RDS-1, breaking the US nuclear monopoly ...

So Russia played the first Middle East gambit, after which the world entered a new reality, the reality of nuclear confrontation and deterrence, which allowed it to prevent a world war for over 60 years.

Now the second gambit is being played before our eyes by Putin. What will be the new reality after its completion, few people know and guess ... But the fact that it will be, undoubtedly. And practically no one can predict the ultimate goal of his actions. It remains only to believe and wish success to our president in this tremendous work.

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  1. polite people
    polite people 2 February 2016 09: 10 New
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    The author is just fine. Liberals of all stripes will howl at this truth.
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 2 February 2016 09: 21 New
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      Quote: polite people
      The author is just fine. Liberals of all stripes will howl at this truth.

      Now our Israeli colleagues are wailing at VO, and will prove that in reality everything was not so. hi
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 2 February 2016 09: 27 New
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        Quote: vlad66
        Now our Israeli colleagues are wailing at VO, and will prove that in reality everything was not so.

        Credit article. In general, he knew about the history of the emergence of the Jewish state in the Middle East, but learned a lot from it.
        It was always surprising that our liberals (mainly of a certain nationality) are throwing mud at the actual creator of the state of Israel. They don’t remember good?
        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 2 February 2016 09: 30 New
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          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Quote: vlad66
          Now our Israeli colleagues are wailing at VO, and will prove that in reality everything was not so.

          Credit article. It was always surprising that our liberals (mainly of a certain nationality) are throwing mud at the actual creator of the state of Israel.

          They have such a job! (with) hi
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 2 February 2016 10: 05 New
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            Wow!!! I never read about this! I take an article on the note.
            Thanks to the author!

            Big author +
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 2 February 2016 10: 46 New
              +4
              Just go nuts!
        2. sleeping sayan
          sleeping sayan 2 February 2016 09: 34 New
          +5
          "These" are most offended by the fact that they were not given weapons but sold.
          1. skrabplus.ru
            skrabplus.ru 2 February 2016 13: 23 New
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            sold weapons for rubles, not for shekels
        3. vovanpain
          vovanpain 2 February 2016 09: 43 New
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          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Quote: vlad66
          Now our Israeli colleagues are wailing at VO, and will prove that in reality everything was not so.

          Credit article. It was always surprising that our liberals (mainly of a certain nationality) are throwing mud at the actual creator of the state of Israel.

          But it’s interesting, if the creation of the state of Israel by Stalin was an operation to cover up the main operation to create atomic weapons, then, if we follow the author’s logic, our operation in Syria is a cover operation, then what’s the main goal? The GDP is a multi-port master and what I’m interested in is interesting.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 2 February 2016 09: 47 New
            +1
            Quote: vovanpain
            operation in Syria is a cover operation, then what is the main goal?

            save budget revenues from hydrocarbon exports
            1. Wheel
              Wheel 2 February 2016 10: 24 New
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              Quote: sa-ag
              save budget revenues from hydrocarbon exports

              It will be more accurate to say, to preserve the revenues of the oil and gas company.
              The budget is in the background, if not in the background ...
              1. skrabplus.ru
                skrabplus.ru 2 February 2016 13: 27 New
                +4
                it is about the goal of V.V.P. not 5 columns
            2. iouris
              iouris 2 February 2016 13: 21 New
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              I think we need to understand that life is a very difficult thing, and maybe even more difficult. Simple or vulgar explanations of events are good for propaganda among the "masses", but they do not explain the essence of the events. Therefore, they say that life is not so much beautiful as amazing.
            3. skrabplus.ru
              skrabplus.ru 2 February 2016 13: 26 New
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              including, but this is a passing task, not the main
          2. skrabplus.ru
            skrabplus.ru 2 February 2016 13: 25 New
            +1
            it seems that the goal is another prevention of another world war
        4. 97110
          97110 2 February 2016 11: 14 New
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          Quote: Ami du peuple
          They don’t remember good?

          Their memory is normal. Everything that is not by order of the US causes them to deny. Again, by order of the US, expressed in the absence of payment.
        5. lwxx
          lwxx 2 February 2016 11: 36 New
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          Drawing knowledge from this article is like drinking from a puddle. The style of the author resembles Suvorov-Rezun. There are facts, it seems that the events coincide, but the conclusions ... And if you want to know the creation of the state of Israel, then study, but you need to move the time long before the WWII hi
        6. sherp2015
          sherp2015 2 February 2016 12: 37 New
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          Quote: Ami du peuple
          our liberals (mostly of a certain nationality) are throwing mud at the actual creator of the state of Israel. They don’t remember good?


          They should pray for Stalin and the Russian people. Instead, some constant rotten creeps, pouring mud, accusations that pour like from a waterfall with the participation of these comrades
          1. atalef
            atalef 2 February 2016 12: 48 New
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            Quote: sherp2015
            They must pray for Stalin and the Russian people.

            Strange position. Actually, we should pray for our Army and the Jewish people.

            Quote: sherp2015
            Instead, some constant rotten creeps, pouring mud, accusations that pour like from a waterfall with the participation of these comrades

            for helping the Arabs in their quest to destroy us, should we say the same thanks?
            Say thanks to comrade Khrushchev and to all the leadership of that time, about .. everything that the USSR could have if Israel had an ally.
            I generally crap, that was all.
            1. Socialist-minded people
            2 Believer in the Communist Party. Stalin and the USSR

            3. Hundreds of thousands who spoke Russian and have relatives in the USSR
            Asked ... if all, traded for the Arabs - having lost both influence and hundreds of billions.
            And who do you take offense after?
        7. Weyland
          Weyland 3 February 2016 01: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          It was always surprising that our liberals (mainly of a certain nationality) are throwing mud at the actual creator of the state of Israel. They don’t remember good?


          In 727 B.C. Assyria annexed Israel ("the Northern Kingdom"), and deported 10 tribes of Israel (where is still a mystery: they have not yet been found crying ).
          In 586 B.C. Babylonia annexed Judea ("the Southern Kingdom"), and deported the remaining 2 tribes of Israel to Babylon and its surroundings. But half a century later, Iran conquered Babylonia, and the Persian king Cyrus the Great generously allowed the Jews to return to their homeland - otherwise the Jews would disappear altogether as a people: complete assimilation would await them, like 10 northern tribes.
          And shaw, the Jews are still very grateful to Iran for this? laughing
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      2. cniza
        cniza 2 February 2016 09: 28 New
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        True, in any situation, it remains true, but if someone wants to forget it - their problem.
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. Alex_Rarog
        Alex_Rarog 2 February 2016 09: 55 New
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        Damn it, live and learn ... I did not know that Joseph Visareonovich "gave" the promised land to the kosher ...
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 2 February 2016 10: 26 New
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          Quote: Alex_Rarog
          I didn't know that Joseph Visareonovich "gave" the promised land to the kosher ...

          Did you say this from your "big mind"?
      5. V.ic
        V.ic 2 February 2016 10: 24 New
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        Quote: vlad66
        Now our Israeli colleagues are wailing at VO, and will prove that in reality everything was not so

        Ha ha ha, bashfully keep silent / if brains are present /.
      6. atalef
        atalef 2 February 2016 12: 03 New
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        Quote: vlad66
        Quote: polite people
        The author is just fine. Liberals of all stripes will howl at this truth.

        Now our Israeli colleagues are wailing at VO, and will prove that in reality everything was not so. hi

        Why not? So
        The only difference is that Jews who went to Palestine did not ate citizens of the Soviet Union.
        These were former citizens of Poland. Czechoslovakia, the western regions of Belarus and Ukraine.
        USSR citizens were not allowed to enter Israel (except of course the scouts) - how do I know, I have a former chief of department, all this was told, maybe he came to Israel in 47, and only because of that could he was a Polish citizen.
        no one says that the contribution of the USSR was small - Stalin was smart enough and in Israel on the day of his death was declared nat. mourning (despite the fact that he came on the most sacred day for Jews - Em Kippur)
        in almost all kibbutzim hung a portrait of Stalin, and even several kibbutzim (I know 3) split into 2, after his death, maybe the people could not agree on which way they would build socialism - Lenin or Stalin. We had excellent relations, including diplomatic ones.
        but then Khrushchev came and crossed out everything, began to help the Arabs and headed for the destruction of Israel.
        Therefore, everything that is happening now cannot be considered only in the Stalin-USSR projection,
        Stalin and the USSR did a lot for Israel to be grateful.
        Khrushchov and the USSR (with him _ did even more so that Israel would hate him and go to the United States.
        With the States in general, a separate conversation. after Khrushchev did everything, licking the Arabs in full glands, filling them with money and weapons and losing everything that could be lost - the States woke up and realized who the strength in the BV was, they just came and took Israel warm, starting to supply military technology and political assistance at the UN.
        The USSR pr ... l everything that Stalin did for Israel, pr..l stupidly, spending a lot of money and paying the lives of his troops including.
        Having received at the output - a complete zero.
        Thanks to Khrushchev and the mediocre Foreign Ministry.
        Now the USSR and Russia could be in the BV in a much stronger position.
        But as always, they were not put on those.
        How did Lavroov say it? This is what you can say to Khrushchev.
        1. tomket
          tomket 2 February 2016 12: 28 New
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          Quote: atalef
          We had a wonderful relationship, including diplomatic ones.
          but then Khrushchev came and crossed out everything, began to help the Arabs and headed for the destruction of Israel.

          By the way, let's think about it. It seems that Stalin left an excellent groundwork in relations with the young state, as, by the way, with China, but then Khrushchev comes, and all the work on the creation of Israel and communist China flies into the dark. The entire game of the Great Game turns out to be, if not lost, then at least useless. This is where it is worth thinking about Putin's long-term multiple moves. will he leave the ground, but how will the successor dispose of him?
          1. atalef
            atalef 2 February 2016 12: 42 New
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            Quote: tomket
            . This is where it is worth thinking about Putin’s long-term multi-trip approach. he left behind, but how will the successor dispose of it?


            So far (based on my experience, albeit not great,) I don’t think something. what Russia has now done in Syria is a backlog.
            Putting initially on the ethnic minority (Alawites) and opposing the Sunni majority, not only in Syria, but also in the world.
            I do not see anything that could strengthen the position of Russia in the BV in conjunction with a specific person named Assad.
            1. tomket
              tomket 2 February 2016 16: 31 New
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              Quote: atalef
              So far (based on my experience, albeit not great,) I don’t think something. what Russia has now done in Syria is a backlog.

              Stalin supported communist China from the middle of the 19th century. So it’s too early to talk about how little has been done.
              Quote: atalef
              Putting initially on the ethnic minority (Alawites) and opposing the Sunni majority, not only in Syria, but also in the world.

              Pope Assad somehow managed to keep the Sunni majority in check. By the way, you forget about Shiites, and the main bet is probably made on them.
            2. vovanpain
              vovanpain 2 February 2016 16: 44 New
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              Quote: atalef
              Putting initially on the ethnic minority (Alawites) and opposing the Sunni majority, not only in Syria, but also in the world.

              Alexander does not need to be distorted, the same Kadyrov is Sunni, the same Chechens and Dagi, the same Tatars living in Russia, and very many Muslims are Sunnis in Russia, after such statements Alexander does not add respect to your words.
              Quote: atalef
              I do not see anything that could strengthen the position of Russia in the BV in conjunction with a specific person named Assad.

              Yes, your mantra and your mattress are tired, wait and see, but Baran Obama will leave this year for sure. No offense, Alexander, who answered sharply. hi
        2. Who is
          2 February 2016 12: 54 New
          +2
          Clarification:
          Russia is always subject. Israel was then the object, and now to some extent (you can argue to what extent). So there can be no talk of any "proximity of interests, equal cooperation in geopolitics, historical events".
          It is a reality, and nothing more
          1. atalef
            atalef 2 February 2016 13: 25 New
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            Quote: Who Is
            So there can be no talk of any "proximity of interests, equal cooperation in geopolitics, historical events"

            Of course. we are a regional power, Russia is a world power, but this does not mean at all that it plays any role.
            Vietnam is the same (as an example) a country of regional scale, and how did it help the States that it is a superpower?
            Let's go back to Afghanistan, did this help the world social hegemon of the USSR?
            They left without achieving anything and losing everything.
            1. Who is
              2 February 2016 13: 30 New
              +6
              We are talking about different things.
              All these "regional powers", "super powers" and so on are the essence of the subjective perception of individuals.

              All world events have always come down to one simple thing - the struggle between Good and Evil, God and the Devil for our Souls. From this point of view, Russia is an object. The second object is the collective West, to which Israel belongs, as an integral part
              1. atalef
                atalef 2 February 2016 13: 43 New
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                Quote: Who Is
                All world events have always come down to one simple thing - the struggle between Good and Evil, God and the Devil for our Souls. From this point of view, Russia is an object. The second object is the collective West, to which Israel belongs, as an integral part

                What do we smoke?
              2. atalef
                atalef 2 February 2016 13: 43 New
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                Quote: Who Is
                All world events have always come down to one simple thing - the struggle between Good and Evil, God and the Devil for our Souls. From this point of view, Russia is an object. The second object is the collective West, to which Israel belongs, as an integral part

                What do we smoke?
                1. Who is
                  2 February 2016 13: 47 New
                  +1
                  Are you so good at grades?))
            2. Weyland
              Weyland 3 February 2016 02: 05 New
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              Quote: atalef
              They left without achieving anything and losing everything.


              Gonevo! They left, leaving there a fairly stable power, and Najibullah held out for another 3 years - and to this day, if Judah EBN am since January 1, 1992 has not stopped the supply of all weapons and ammunition DRA government troops!
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        3. Bakht
          Bakht 2 February 2016 14: 59 New
          -3
          What myths are we reading .....

          From the USSR, Jews left for Israel. Precisely as citizens of the USSR. And immediately after 1949. Late waves read Poplar "Lyubozhid".

          As for the position of the USSR, one would think that everything depended on the USSR. Israel immediately relied on the United States. At that time, this automatically meant a bet by the USSR on Arabs. So blame no one. This was not a choice of the USSR, but of Israel.

          Well, everything else ... Everyone has their own passions.
          Yes. Who supplied weapons to Israel in the most critical first days? It was not the USSR and not Czechoslovakia

          At the same time, the first serious weapons purchased in Europe were delivered to the ports of Haifa and Jaffa. On June 15, the first steamer unloaded 10 guns of 75 mm caliber, 12 light Hodgkiss tanks, 19 anti-tank guns of caliber 65 mm, 4 air defense guns and 45 shells. The next delivered 000 machine guns, several thousand rifles, 500 thousand shells and 17 million rounds. Another ship delivered from Italy 7 Sherman tanks (this is a very successful American analogue of our T-30).
          Since the dockers in the port did not know how to unload these 35-ton engines, in the same Italy, a 40-ton crane was urgently purchased and fitted, which immediately solved this problem.
          Some of the weapons, but not by official, but by the secret "Burmese road", was transferred to Jerusalem. Already in the first week, 40 tons of ammunition, hundreds of British Stan submachine guns and Bren machine guns, boxes of hand grenades, and bundles of American bazookas arrived in the Jerusalem arsenals of the Haganah.
      7. atalef
        atalef 2 February 2016 12: 03 New
        0
        Quote: vlad66
        Quote: polite people
        The author is just fine. Liberals of all stripes will howl at this truth.

        Now our Israeli colleagues are wailing at VO, and will prove that in reality everything was not so. hi

        Why not? So
        The only difference is that Jews who went to Palestine did not ate citizens of the Soviet Union.
        These were former citizens of Poland. Czechoslovakia, the western regions of Belarus and Ukraine.
        USSR citizens were not allowed to enter Israel (except of course the scouts) - how do I know, I have a former chief of department, all this was told, maybe he came to Israel in 47, and only because of that could he was a Polish citizen.
        no one says that the contribution of the USSR was small - Stalin was smart enough and in Israel on the day of his death was declared nat. mourning (despite the fact that he came on the most sacred day for Jews - Em Kippur)
        in almost all kibbutzim hung a portrait of Stalin, and even several kibbutzim (I know 3) split into 2, after his death, maybe the people could not agree on which way they would build socialism - Lenin or Stalin. We had excellent relations, including diplomatic ones.
        but then Khrushchev came and crossed out everything, began to help the Arabs and headed for the destruction of Israel.
        Therefore, everything that is happening now cannot be considered only in the Stalin-USSR projection,
        Stalin and the USSR did a lot for Israel to be grateful.
        Khrushchov and the USSR (with him _ did even more so that Israel would hate him and go to the United States.
        With the States in general, a separate conversation. after Khrushchev did everything, licking the Arabs in full glands, filling them with money and weapons and losing everything that could be lost - the States woke up and realized who the strength in the BV was, they just came and took Israel warm, starting to supply military technology and political assistance at the UN.
        The USSR pr ... l everything that Stalin did for Israel, pr..l stupidly, spending a lot of money and paying the lives of his troops including.
        Having received at the output - a complete zero.
        Thanks to Khrushchev and the mediocre Foreign Ministry.
        Now the USSR and Russia could be in the BV in a much stronger position.
        But as always, they were not put on those.
        How did Lavroov say it? This is what you can say to Khrushchev.
        1. Sergelis
          Sergelis 2 February 2016 13: 40 New
          +1
          I agree with you.
          Mr. Khrushchev's incompetent rule has given rise to many problems.
        2. NIKNN
          NIKNN 2 February 2016 19: 57 New
          +3
          Western regions of Belarus and Ukraine.
          USSR citizens were not allowed to enter Israel


          Ukraine and Belarus did not enter the USSR? belay

          What do you smoke? No.
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      9. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 2 February 2016 15: 33 New
        0
        Actually, nothing surprising. Among the Communists there has always been a strongly Jewish lobby, just see how many representatives of this nationality were among the first persons of the first Soviet state. Moreover, in my opinion, for many of them the communist ideology and, above all, the idea of ​​the world revolution were just a means of realizing the national idea - gaining freedom and finally creating a national state.
    2. anEkeName
      anEkeName 2 February 2016 09: 22 New
      15
      Quote: polite people
      The author is just fine. Liberals of all stripes will howl at this truth.

      "Liberals", as always, will pour shit on everything, because everyone shares what he has in abundance. Yes, and they are not liberals at all, but sick people who easily fall into hysterics if the opponent's opinion does not coincide with their own.
    3. DIMA45R
      DIMA45R 2 February 2016 09: 24 New
      -9
      Here's another Putin plan to save the economy
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 2 February 2016 10: 08 New
        +6
        Quote: DIMA45R
        DIMA45R (1) Today, 09:24 ↑
        Here's another Putin plan to save the economy

        And the voice-over is not Putin and the plan is not Putin. This is a mockery. In vain you. Somehow out of place.
      2. DIMA45R
        DIMA45R 2 February 2016 12: 17 New
        -1
        Do not attack, this is a fantastic story !!!! I don’t know Putin’s plans ... Yet with a positive ending, the story
    4. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 2 February 2016 10: 16 New
      +1
      To play a gambit, you need strong pieces, as well as pawns that you can sometimes sacrifice, and sometimes hold them in queens. It seems that now we are witnessing a simultaneous game on several boards. Nobody has achieved the benefits so far, but the initiative is clearly in Russia.
    5. iouris
      iouris 2 February 2016 13: 16 New
      0
      This is not true. This version.
      What does the liberals have to do with it? I am also a liberal. And Putin will say that he is a liberal.
      To summarize the known facts, the main milestones in the history of Israel may look like this.
      Financial (Jewish) capital financed the discovery of America (this was written in a manual for Jews traveling to the United States) and created the United States, where a "Judeo-Christian civilization" arose (not my term). The USA supported bourgeois democratic revolutions in the future of the EU, which were successfully suppressed by the Russian Tsar during the 1th century. Therefore, all democrats of the future EU were rosofobists, including Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, and then Lenin. Following the results of WW2, financial capital managed to destroy part of the empires, including the one that included Palestine. The British Empire held its own. The USSR emerged, at least until WW2, the "progressive" Jews supported, because considered the USSR a Jewish state, which, in general, is fair. One of the main tasks of the United States in WWXNUMX was the destruction of the British Empire (nothing personal - this is a business). The creation of Israel played a key role in this matter. One gets the impression that Churchill, who in every possible way opposed the creation of Israel in Israel itself, is considered almost a more terrible politician than, for example, Hitler, who allegedly welcomed the creation of the national (or, perhaps, the National Socialist) state of Israel.
      Israel needed immigrants from Europe, but the fact is that European Jews categorically did not want to go to the desert inhabited by Arabs from a comfortable life. Therefore, it is necessary to take a close look at the reasons not only for the pogroms, but also for the Holocaust, which were used to stimulate the exodus of Jews to Israel. Repeatedly eyewitnesses wrote that young people in Israel have a very different attitude to the victims of the "Holocaust" from the official one. It is believed that they were punished for refusing to emigrate to Israel (to Palestine.
      As for the nationality of Stalin. It is believed that he is Georgian, but if you study the personal life of the leader and the personal lives of his children, then some patterns can shake this version.
      So, we can assume that the USSR did not create Israel, but quite the opposite. At the same time, the question of the "historical responsibility of the Russians" for "crimes against the peoples" receives a completely different dimension.
      Therefore, we can only agree with the author: the study of this confusing issue is of great practical importance.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 09: 12 New
    +4
    after Putin's words: now is not 37 years old, a collage with Stalin is probably not appropriate ...
    1. Flinky
      Flinky 2 February 2016 09: 17 New
      33
      Stalin is not only the 37th year. This is NEP, and industrialization, and the great Victory, and much more.
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 2 February 2016 09: 35 New
        +6
        Quote: Flinky
        This is NEP and industrialization.


        NEP and industrialization began Lenin. Stalin finished the NEP, and continued industrialization at an accelerated pace and draconian measures.
        And this is not a condemnation, but simply a statement of fact. Without this, the USSR probably would not have had time to prepare for the Great Patriotic War.
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 3 February 2016 02: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Corsair0304
          NEP and industrialization began Lenin


          NEP - yes, but industrialization laughing ? Proof, pliz!
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    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 2 February 2016 09: 22 New
      -2
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      after Putin's words: now is not 37 years old, a collage with Stalin is probably not appropriate ...

      I would say for a slightly different reason, these two people are two different systems that once opposed, but then patriotism prevails over all
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 09: 26 New
        0
        Flinky, sa-ag agrees.
    3. Svetlana
      Svetlana 2 February 2016 09: 36 New
      +9
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Now is not 37 year

      But we look forward to it.
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 2 February 2016 09: 38 New
        -5
        Quote: Svetlana
        But we look forward to it.

        Why, aren't you coupons for enhanced nutrition and a trip to the sanatorium on a union permit?
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 2 February 2016 09: 50 New
          12
          Quote: sa-ag
          Quote: Svetlana
          But we look forward to it.

          Why, aren't you coupons for enhanced nutrition and a trip to the sanatorium on a union permit?

          Because some comrades will finish working with the language, and will work with their hands. hi
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 2 February 2016 09: 53 New
            +6
            Quote: 79807420129
            Because some comrades will finish working with the language, and will work with their hands.

            The 37th year was possible in the conditions of confrontation between the two systems, now there is only one system - the capitalist one, so there can be no 37th year by definition, do not build illusions or do you know what happens to people who stole a billion?
            1. 79807420129
              79807420129 2 February 2016 10: 00 New
              +6
              Quote: sa-ag
              Quote: 79807420129
              Because some comrades will finish working with the language, and will work with their hands.

              The 37th year was possible in the conditions of confrontation between the two systems, now there is only one system - the capitalist one, so there can be no 37th year by definition, do not build illusions or do you know what happens to people who stole a billion?

              And now, whether it’s not a confrontation between Russia and the United States with the Sixes, do not build illusions, the war has already been going on for a long time, albeit a hybrid one, on foreign territory.
              1. sa-ag
                sa-ag 2 February 2016 10: 10 New
                +3
                Quote: 79807420129
                And now, whether it be a confrontation between Russia and the United States

                This is not a confrontation of systems, this is a redistribution of the hydrocarbon market
            2. taram taramych
              taram taramych 2 February 2016 10: 58 New
              0
              Quote: sa-ag
              what happens to people who stole a billion?

              The businessman stole 12,7 billion rubles from BTA Bank and received conditionally. According to law enforcement agencies, back in 2007, Alexander Volkov, as well as two top managers and a lawyer of the Eurasia Logistics transport company, teamed up with the criminal group, which in turn was organized by the former head of the Kazakh joint-stock company BTA-bank and LLC BTA-bank (Moscow) Mukhtar Ablyazov. Thus, hiding their plans from the board of directors of the credit committee of BTA Bank JSC, fraudsters organized theft of banking property for a total amount of more than 12,7 billion rubles. http://ok.ru/dk?cmd=logExternal&st.cmd=logExternal&st.link=http%3A%2F%2Fcont.ws%

              2Fpost%2F189815%3F_utl_t%3Dok&st.name=externalLinkRedirect&st.tid=64914905240876

              & st._aid =
              If I am not mistaken, the classic character described this as "an organized criminal community, called in the common people a gang."
              1. Weyland
                Weyland 3 February 2016 02: 27 New
                0
                Quote: Taram Taramych
                with a criminal gang, which in turn was organized by the former head of the Kazakh BTA-Bank JSC and BTA-Bank LLC (Moscow) Mukhtar Ablyazov


                In real life, Ablyazov's "case" is purely a politician: his "crime" was that he tried to create his own political party, and Nurik, essno, oh, how he didn't like it!
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            3. gunya
              gunya 2 February 2016 13: 03 New
              +1
              sa-ag DE



              you do not know what happens to people who stole a billion?


              Based on the example of Vasilyeva - practically
              NOTHING !
            4. iouris
              iouris 2 February 2016 13: 24 New
              0
              It is interesting to know, tell us what happens to the topic, who stole a billion? I know what happens to people who have stolen, for example, a spikelet or loaf of bread.
      2. sherp2015
        sherp2015 2 February 2016 12: 50 New
        0
        Quote: Svetlana
        But we look forward to it.


        Especially in relation to oligarchs, individual officials with deputies
    4. Who is
      2 February 2016 09: 55 New
      +1
      The article does not compare the political views of Stalin and Putin. A parallel is drawn on the scale of individuals, strategic thinking and the continuity of Russian politics
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 2 February 2016 09: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Who Is
        The article does not compare the political views of Stalin and Putin. A parallel is drawn on the scale of individuals, strategic thinking and the continuity of Russian politics

        What is the continuity of Russian politics, and what is internal or external?
        1. Who is
          2 February 2016 10: 15 New
          +2
          I see you are writing from Germany. So for you my words will be close. Russia has always been famous for its analytical school and long-term plans. If in the West, in particular in the USA, there is always an 2 plan - plan A and plan B (we save our asses), if plan A does not work, then Russia always, and now Putin has so many plans that there will not be enough letters latin alphabet. And each of them is provided financially.
          This is due to the scale of the eternal confrontation with the entire Western world, and the huge responsibility for the lives of our people, the existence in a hostile environment of our state and the fate of our society. Our rulers have always been the OWNERS of the Russian land with all the burden of responsibility, and not temporary workers for 4-5 years, as in the West, which, in case of disobedience to their masters, were simply pushed out (re-elected) from their posts.
          Owners and Temporary workers - hence the huge difference in approaches, goals and responsibilities
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 2 February 2016 10: 23 New
            0
            Quote: Who Is
            Our rulers have always been the OWNERS of the Russian land with all the ensuing burden of responsibility, and not temporary workers for 4-5 years

            Well, in my opinion, the owner of the earth can be considered the one who offers the country and society a clear path of development to a certain goal with clear guidelines for following this very goal, and so there is no such goal and guidelines since 1991, the people are being told one thing - like the war goes on, that's why so bad, so bad to see that famous characters (and there are already three of them) the hand does not rise to the corner, well, such wonderful people, or such an example - a manager from Gazprom tells how the Power of Siberia gas pipeline is being built on Chinese investments and how many at the same time, the settlements will be gasified, it turns out that this very owner is not able to provide gasification himself, what kind of owner he is, that's what a temporary worker is, everything is here and now
            1. Who is
              2 February 2016 10: 39 New
              +3
              "An intelligible path of development" is a subjective concept.
              Throughout its more than 1000-year history, Russia has repeatedly been subjected to such aggression. that she should not have survived by any Western estimate. However, Russia has always had, has and will have its own path, the sacred path of the heiress of Byzantium, the Spirit of God. The struggle of the Spirit and spirituality is eternal, it is happening now
              1. atalef
                atalef 2 February 2016 13: 21 New
                -3
                Quote: Who Is
                An intelligible path of development "is a subjective concept.

                If we talk about the results, then it is absolutely objective.

                Quote: Who Is
                Throughout its more than 1000-year history, Russia has repeatedly been subjected to such aggression. that she should not have survived by any Western estimate

                I do not know where you got the 1000th history of Russia as a state. as well as Western estimates.
                Quote: Who Is
                Russia has always had, is and will have its own path, the sacred path of the heiress of Byzantium,

                sacred? What do you mean.

                Quote: Who Is
                The Spirit of God. The struggle of the Spirit and spirituality is eternal, it is happening now

                Explain what the Spirit of God means?
                1. Who is
                  2 February 2016 13: 26 New
                  +4
                  Apparently, you still do not understand, or do not want to understand what I will write. This is neither good nor bad.
                  We are different, we have different faiths, morality. beliefs and goals.
                2. Weyland
                  Weyland 3 February 2016 02: 53 New
                  +2
                  Quote: atalef
                  I don’t know where did you get the 1000th history of Russia as a state


                  From Rurik!

                  Quote: atalef
                  sacred? What do you mean.


                  Have you been banned in Google? Sacral (from the English sacral and Latin sacrum - sacred, dedicated to the gods) - in the broad sense - everything related to the Divine, religious, heavenly, otherworldly, irrational, mystical, different from ordinary things, concepts, phenomena.

                  Quote: atalef
                  Explain what the Spirit of God means?


                  Even so? Have you ever heard of it? A difficult case ... EMNIP, in Hebrew spirit - Ruach. See Sefer Maase Bereshit, chapter 1, verse 2
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          2. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 11: 19 New
            0
            Quote: Who Is
            now Putin has so many plans that there will not be enough letters of the Latin alphabet. And each of them is provided financially.

            I would like your optimism ... but alas, my eyes tell me the opposite. Economics? - Hmm ... medicine-education-HA !!! name at least one law adopted in recent years For the People, and not against ... (only honestly).
            Our rulers have always been the OWNERS of the Russian land
            come on!!! wassat and Gorbach with Yeltsin? where do you live? bend, but know the measure!
            1. Who is
              2 February 2016 11: 26 New
              +2
              Everyone sees what he wants to see.

              And the Time of Troubles, Russia is always very difficult, but worried
              1. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 11: 41 New
                -1
                Quote: Who Is
                Everyone sees what he wants to see.

                convenient wording, what about Truth?
                Quote: Who Is
                And the Time of Troubles, Russia is always very difficult, but worried

                naturally, since She still exists! and so you, and the present times, refer to "vague"?
                1. Who is
                  2 February 2016 11: 52 New
                  +2
                  True, everyone has their own.
                  Truth alone, it is from God

                  The last "troubled times" in Russia were in the 90s
                  1. Andrey Yuryevich
                    Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 11: 58 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Who Is
                    Truth alone, it is from God

                    I beg of you..wassat
                    Quote: Who Is
                    True, everyone has their own.
                    then it's easier to say that She is not ... request True, it is either there or it is not, especially when it comes to state affairs! Otherwise, you can agree to the point of absurdity ...
                    1. Who is
                      2 February 2016 12: 00 New
                      -4
                      Do not beg me, I do not serve on Tuesdays)))

                      Yes, and is it so begging? On knees))))
                      1. Andrey Yuryevich
                        Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 12: 23 New
                        -3
                        Quote: Who Is
                        Do not beg me, I do not serve on Tuesdays)))

                        I’ll just take off 100 points for rudeness ... you died for me ...
                      2. Who is
                        2 February 2016 12: 27 New
                        +3
                        The lack of a sense of humor is the biggest sin))))
                  2. gunya
                    gunya 2 February 2016 13: 36 New
                    +5
                    Who Is RU
                    True, everyone has their own.
                    Truth alone, it is from God



                  3. Weyland
                    Weyland 3 February 2016 02: 58 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                    True, she either is or is not,


                    There is really modest, there is really proud
                    Always so different
                    Sometimes sweet, sometimes bitter
                    And only truth is always one.
                    There is truth light, there is truth dark
                    There are for a moment and for a time,
                    It’s good, it’s hard
                    And only truth is always one.
        2. atalef
          atalef 2 February 2016 12: 52 New
          -1
          Quote: Who Is
          I see you are writing from Germany. So for you my words will be close. Russia has always been famous for its analytical school and long-term plans.

          C'mon, give me an example, successful and I will believe you

          Quote: Who Is
          If in the West, in particular the USA, there are always 2 plans - plan A and plan B (saving our asses), if plan A does not work, then Russia always, and now Putin has so many plans that there will be no letters latin alphabet. And each of them is provided financially.

          I am in some disbelief from your words, especially in terms of providing materially.
          Quote: Who Is
          Our rulers have always been the OWNERS of the Russian land with all the ensuing burden of responsibility, and not temporary workers for 4-5 years, as in the West

          Well, yes, some kind of template break
          Quote: Who Is
          Owners and Temporary workers - hence the huge difference in approaches, goals and responsibilities


          at the standard of living.
          1. Who is
            2 February 2016 13: 07 New
            +3
            There is no point in proving something to a representative of another civilization. We have different values, morality and faith.

            Especially messianic goals. I see no reason for a reasoned discussion, which, in experience, will end with another srach
        3. atalef
          atalef 2 February 2016 12: 52 New
          -3
          Quote: Who Is
          I see you are writing from Germany. So for you my words will be close. Russia has always been famous for its analytical school and long-term plans.

          C'mon, give me an example, successful and I will believe you

          Quote: Who Is
          If in the West, in particular the USA, there are always 2 plans - plan A and plan B (saving our asses), if plan A does not work, then Russia always, and now Putin has so many plans that there will be no letters latin alphabet. And each of them is provided financially.

          I am in some disbelief from your words, especially in terms of providing materially.
          Quote: Who Is
          Our rulers have always been the OWNERS of the Russian land with all the ensuing burden of responsibility, and not temporary workers for 4-5 years, as in the West

          Well, yes, some kind of template break
          Quote: Who Is
          Owners and Temporary workers - hence the huge difference in approaches, goals and responsibilities


          at the standard of living.
      2. iouris
        iouris 2 February 2016 13: 27 New
        0
        In the context of globalization, what kind of opposition between domestic and foreign policy can we talk about? Many states have long ago lost their subjectivity. In this world "world capital", and people are dying for "metal".
  3. nadezhiva
    nadezhiva 2 February 2016 10: 08 New
    +9
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    after Putin's words: now is not 37 years old, a collage with Stalin is probably not appropriate ...

    Can you recall the brilliant words of Dovlatov?
    We endlessly criticize Comrade Stalin, and, of course, for the cause. And yet I want to ask - who wrote the four million denunciations?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 11: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: nadezhiva
      Can you recall the brilliant words of Dovlatov?

      you can quote a lot of quotes from Nadyush, I’m just asking sorry, Davlatov’s statement, what side to the topic and my comment? request the meaning of my comment, about the "softness" of "punishments" to persons close to them ... you know what I mean? our law is not the same for EVERYONE. on the same Vasilyev you can write 4 million outraged "denunciations", but what's the point?
  4. oborzevatel
    oborzevatel 2 February 2016 10: 38 New
    +7
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    after Putin's words: now is not 37 years old, a collage with Stalin is probably not appropriate ...

    It is quite appropriate, in vain you are so ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 11: 52 New
      0
      Quote: oborzevatel
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      after Putin's words: now is not 37 years old, a collage with Stalin is probably not appropriate ...

      It is quite appropriate, in vain you are so ...

      did not catch the connection ... request
      1. oborzevatel
        oborzevatel 2 February 2016 11: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        did not catch the connection ...

        Not all "prophets" speak the truth.
        Is such a connection suitable? hi
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 12: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: oborzevatel
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          did not catch the connection ...

          Not all "prophets" speak the truth.
          Is such a connection suitable? hi

          Well, if about "false prophets" "there are no prophets in my fatherland" and so on, then ... quite! hi
  • igorka357
    igorka357 2 February 2016 09: 13 New
    +4
    It's simple, our group in Syria, this is the first step in influence in the Middle East!
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 2 February 2016 19: 59 New
      +2

      Putin goes to the grave of Stalin and says:
      - I do not know what to do, Joseph Vissarionovich. In Syria, problems with ISIS, the Turks shoot in the back.
      Stalin answers from the grave:
      - And you unite Syria with Turkey!
      - Yes, I already thought about this, but if Istanbul is made the capital, then the Syrians will be offended, and if Damascus - then the Turks.
      - No, not Istanbul and Damascus, but sunny Magadan!
  • RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 2 February 2016 09: 13 New
    -9
    The creation of Israel is Stalin’s main mistake. They phoned the USSR later.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2016 09: 27 New
      16
      Quote: RuslanNN
      The creation of Israel is Stalin’s main mistake. They phoned the USSR later.
      oh well ... everything came back to us, only the lazy did not spit in the back ...
    2. Senior manager
      Senior manager 2 February 2016 09: 43 New
      +8
      RuslanNN. As it turned out, Stalin is not a mistake, but an unfinished party, phishington seized the initiative. Stalin did not have a worthy successor, or rather appeared only recently. I wish you good luck ...
    3. V.ic
      V.ic 2 February 2016 10: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: RuslanNN
      The creation of Israel is Stalin’s main mistake. They phoned the USSR later.

      OOO-CHCHCHEN smart! The main mistake was to leave alive the "bald maize" and the "27th Baku commissar" who "from Ilyich to Ilyich without a heart attack and paralysis."
    4. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 2 February 2016 10: 40 New
      0
      Quote: RuslanNN
      Creation of israel

      It was started, contrary to the opinion of the author, not by Stalin, but by Hitler, do not forget that even before the Second World War, Hitler was sending Jews to Palestine on the motor ship "Adolf Hitler". It was he who began the repressions against Jews in order to speed up the departure of Jews from Germany to Palestine. Few have heard that Jews who agreed to leave for Palestine were not persecuted in any of the occupied countries. They were simply taken out at first, and those who refused to develop the deserts were exterminated. After the war, Stalin supported Hitler's idea of ​​finally destroying British rule in Asia. Britain has already lost in the war with Hitler the gold reserves given by SASHA in exchange for weapons, and got into debt under the Lend-Lease, lost part of the colonies in exchange for coal destroyers of the First World War. But the colonies in Asia remained with her and she still remained Great Britain, although she was no longer the ruler of the world. But Israel has already begun to destroy her dominion in Asia, then there will be India and Africa.
      1. sherp2015
        sherp2015 2 February 2016 12: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: shasherin.pavel
        Israel has already begun to destroy its rule in Asia, then there will be India and Africa.


        All they can do is destroy states and statehood ...
  • Woodman
    Woodman 2 February 2016 09: 20 New
    11
    It remains only to believe and wish success to our president in this colossal work.


    I join the wishes of the author.
  • Taygerus
    Taygerus 2 February 2016 09: 29 New
    +4
    article +, author, well done, Russia is slowly taking its historical place in the world, good luck to our President
  • Gray 43
    Gray 43 2 February 2016 09: 30 New
    +1
    Stalin helped in the formation of the state of Israel, and Putin will help in the formation of Kurdistan, when the Kurds themselves agree among themselves, in any case, this is where everything goes, the staff also relied on them, apparently, to eliminate their other "creation" - IG
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 2 February 2016 09: 30 New
    -2
    Events are drawn to each other, and the conclusions are too fantastic to be true. After, does not always mean the consequence of this.
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  • uskrabut
    uskrabut 2 February 2016 09: 31 New
    +4
    Doubts have long tormented that everything is not so simple as announced. The theory of a new gambit is quite probable and most likely has a place to be. The article is interesting, definitely +. Analytically with examples and analogies.
  • Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 2 February 2016 09: 32 New
    +7
    Comparison of Stalin and Putin is a little inappropriate, yet these are two different personalities both in character, in mindset, and in means of achieving the goal. Well, the resources are also different.
    But in the fact that the GDP in the Middle East pursues a tough, if not aggressive, policy to uphold Russia's interests, I completely agree. I agree that this policy has very long-term prospects, and in the sphere of influence it extends not only to the Middle East, but also to the Balkans and Western Europe.

    Our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours!
  • nimboris
    nimboris 2 February 2016 09: 40 New
    -1
    What is the connection between the atomic bomb and the creation of the state of Israel?
    1. DREDD
      DREDD 2 February 2016 11: 56 New
      +1
      It is believed that Stalin agreed with representatives of the world Zionist movement to transfer to the USSR important secrets of the American nuclear project, in return the Jews counted on Stalin's support in creating a Jewish state in Palestine. Something like this.
  • Vladislav 73
    Vladislav 73 2 February 2016 09: 45 New
    +5
    “Russia, as now, lagged far behind the United States in its production” - That is, according to the author, we are still far behind the United States in the field of the latest nuclear developments and their carriers? I don’t know where the author is a fine fellow (comment of the Polite Chela ), but this statement is more than doubtful. In my opinion, the article is a minus. Read a few paragraphs located under the poster of I.V. Stalin, another canoe on the topic, if it were not for help from behind the hill, then the beggar, dark and uneducated USSR would never I would not have created an atomic bomb myself! And even the Rosenberg spouses turned out to be handed over (knowing in advance what would happen to them!) in order to "save" Oppenheimer ... And in general, no scientific base, no technology, nothing! scientists-ZK, and above them bloody Beria with PPSh! The scribe is full! Definitely a minus!
    1. excomandante
      excomandante 2 February 2016 09: 57 New
      +2
      Right. It is strange that no one noted this above. It was just for nuclear development that we had technologies, and we allocated huge funds, and the scientists were not at all a "small team", and this was not happening in the taiga, but in the regions of Arzamas and Chelyabinsk. It’s a shame not to know common things. Even if we take the way the history of the creation of nuclear weapons in the USSR was presented, no one stooped to such nonsense. Let's leave on the author's conscience his violent, evil fantasies about a beggar, stupid and "taiga" Stalinist Soviet Union. The rest of the article is good and informative.
      PS Just in case, when creating the nuclear weapons, the USSR competed not only with the USA, but with the whole West of that time, all the clever scientists of this direction were exported to the USA and worked quite hard for themselves, having much more resources and capabilities.
      1. Vladislav 73
        Vladislav 73 2 February 2016 10: 28 New
        +5
        I completely agree with you! The nuclear project in the USSR was launched on September 28.09.1942, 2352, by GKO Decision No. 1,5ss, 11.02.1943 (!) Months after the Manhattan project. Funds and laboratories were allocated. Arzamas-2872 and Chelyabinsk-16 projects and a whole bunch of objects were launched ... Yes, intelligence data shortened the development period, but it’s one thing to get theoretical refinements (and also figure out where the disinformation is, somewhere) it’s a completely different matter to create from 40 a technological base, entire industries, and translate it into practical application. And this is during the war and post-war devastation! That’s where the feat is! And after that, such authors not only cross out all the achievements of the USSR, but also actively promote outright lies! ...
      2. Wheel
        Wheel 2 February 2016 10: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: excomandante
        and not in the taiga, this happened, but in the districts of Arzamas and Chelyabinsk.

        For the author, everything beyond the MKAD is an impenetrable taiga. laughing
  • shasherin.pavel
    shasherin.pavel 2 February 2016 09: 48 New
    +2
    At the beginning of the war, the Soviet Union began to work on assistance in creating a Jewish state in Palestine,
    And what about the Adolf Hitler motor ship, on which the first Jews were transported to the Promised Land, long before the start of World War II. Britain ruled the world and from that was called Great Britain. And here the direct confrontation of the whole world against such domination, and not only the USSR, which at first had short arms, to speak out against the Lady of the seas and colonies, but initially SaSha, who watched with pleasure the defeat of Great Britain by Hitler, pulled out the entire gold reserve from England, received Newfoundlands in exchange for 50 destroyers of the First World War, and then dragged into debt "Lend-Lease". Germany began to undercut Britain's power by creating Palestine. So Stalin was not the first to create Palestine.
  • sleeping sayan
    sleeping sayan 2 February 2016 09: 54 New
    +3
    Stalin did not receive rabbis in the Kremlin, he never stooped to "such". And under Putin, the Kremlin and most of Russia for the Jews is a courtyard.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 2 February 2016 12: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: Sleeping Sayan
      The Kremlin, and most of Russia for the Jews, is a passage yard.

      What are you saying? For them, Russia is not a walk-through, but "ROOM, here they have love with interest."
  • shasherin.pavel
    shasherin.pavel 2 February 2016 09: 56 New
    0
    Even at the beginning of the war, the Soviet Union began to work on help in creating a Jewish state in Palestine. End of quote.
    And what about the Adolf Hitler motor ship, on which Hitler sent the first batch of Jews from Germany to Palestine, long before the start of World War II. Great Britain was then the ruler of the seas and colonies, inherited from Germany, which capitulated in 1918. At the same time, everyone felt hatred for her, first of all, SASHA, who watched with pleasure the defeat of England by Hitler, providing weapons only after receiving the gold reserve, then dragged her into debt with Lend-Lease. Germany has planted a Palestinian "bomb" under its dominion in Asia. And at that time the USSR had "arms" too short to have influence on England.

    Also on the territory of the USSR there were many prisoners of war and interned soldiers, officers and generals of the Polish army. end of quote.
    The proposal is incorrect on several points at once: in 1939, there were many military and interned civilians in the territory of the USSR, some of whom lived in the Western regions of Belarus and Ukraine, officers and one General Andersen. When he left with his army at the height of the Battle of Stalingrad in Iran, Colonel Ludwig Freedom took command of the remaining Poles. Only after the transfer of the territory conquered by Poland to Lithuania did the Polish government in exile declare war on the USSR and the Poles turned into prisoners of war.
  • Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 2 February 2016 09: 59 New
    0
    Quote: nimboris
    What is the connection between the atomic bomb and the creation of the state of Israel?

    I also don’t see a special connection.
  • avva2012
    avva2012 2 February 2016 10: 03 New
    +1
    I can not agree that the creation of Israel was the fact that kept the United States from unleashing nuclear war. The British, yes, organized problems. And what does the USA have to do with a vigorous bomb? I once read that there was an agreement with China on the creation of an army (somewhere beyond 10mln.), Arming it with our weapons and transfer, if that, to the Bering Strait.
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 2 February 2016 10: 09 New
    +2
    Putin has been playing a game on the global chessboard for more than one millennium.


    There have always been excellent chess players in the USSR. And from the opponents you only hear "Go horse, horse" laughing
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 2 February 2016 10: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Gormengast
      There have always been excellent chess players in the USSR.

      Yeah... Alyokhin, Efim Bogolyubov, Misha Botvinnik, Leva Polugaevsky, Borya Spassky, Karpov, Garik Kasparov.
  • Sergelis
    Sergelis 2 February 2016 10: 15 New
    +2
    In my opinion, the article is complete nonsense.
    attracting facts by the ears to a convenient author of the assessment of attitude.
  • Jan2016
    Jan2016 2 February 2016 10: 16 New
    +1
    What was planned at the expense of Israel by the Soviet leadership did not materialize, but it was planned that it would be an outpost of the USSR in the Middle East. But it did not work out. The socialist republic of Israel has never been realized.
  • Fat
    Fat 2 February 2016 10: 17 New
    -2
    The article was interesting. Thanks to the author. Some points are controversial, but the version is great. hi
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 2 February 2016 10: 55 New
      -4
      Quote: Thick
      The article was interesting. Thanks to the author. Some points are controversial, but the version is great. hi

      Yeah, a great article for some alternative history sites.
  • avva2012
    avva2012 2 February 2016 10: 23 New
    0
    The fact that the USSR had far-reaching plans, which were not limited only to the creation of the state of Israel, can be assumed from the subsequent reaction of our country to how the Israeli government switched sides. I.V. Stalin was never seen in anti-Semitism, nationalism. And, here, "the doctors' case", "cosmopolitans", "Zionists", etc. Sounds like the fury of the Supreme Commander.
  • Papapg
    Papapg 2 February 2016 10: 34 New
    +4
    Quote: Flinky
    Stalin is not only the 37th year. This is NEP, and industrialization, and the great Victory, and much more.

    Stalin is the best fighter against corruption, with the opposition, and with much more. He didn’t steal, didn’t let others, he raised the country from the plow. And now so many things have divorced, it's time to repair the Belomorkanal ...
  • BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 2 February 2016 10: 34 New
    +5
    Well, this story was never a secret at all, who wanted to read about it a long time ago. By the way, when Stalin died in Israel mourning was declared (Israeli colleagues will not let me lie). They say that even the celebration of the Jewish holiday of Purim, which coincided this year with the day of Stalin's death. For this in particular, I can not vouch.
    A lot of other good things will emerge from Stalin's deeds, when all the liberal dirt from the minds of citizens is washed away.
    “I know that after my death a lot of garbage will be put on my grave, but the wind of history will mercilessly dispel it!” (I.V. Stalin, 1943).
  • shasherin.pavel
    shasherin.pavel 2 February 2016 10: 50 New
    +2
    The author works in small patches of the West. Here is an example of this: In December 1941, an agreement was reached with the USSR government on the creation of 7 Polish divisions of up to 96 000 people with the possibility of their further withdrawal to Iran. end of quote.
    In December, the Polish army was already formed and it stands behind Moscow, and not in Asia. Well standing until August 1942 and in the midst of the battle of Stalingrad, leaves for Iran with weapons. The Red Army is suffocating from the lack of weapons lost in 1941. Everything that can shoot with a minimum number of rounds is bought in the West, this is not suitable for battles, but when guarding warehouses, railways and bridges, everything worked, as it allowed taking weapons suitable for battle from the rear. Stalin probably hoped that the Poles would enter the war on the side of the West if they did not want to fight on the Soviet front, but they did not put allies and compatriots under occupation, and sat peacefully in the rear until 1944, until their kicks in the ass drove to fight in Italy. but this is a completely different song, where only the Poles sing a song about the glory of Polish weapons, and the West spits at their feet.
    Also on the territory of the USSR there were many prisoners of war and interned soldiers, officers and generals of the Polish army.
    Another sweet flattery, contrary to history: On the territory of the USSR there were military soldiers and officers, interned civilians and one general who with his army "fled" from the war to Iran. After that, the Polish Army from the remaining Poles had to be led by COLONEL Ludwig Svoboda. So there can be no talk of generals. The Poles became prisoners of war in 1940, when the Polish government in exile declared war on the USSR, since a part of Lithuania conquered by the Poles was returned to Lithuania.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 2 February 2016 13: 53 New
      0
      Quote: shasherin.pavel
      After which the Polish Army from the remaining Poles had to be led by Colonel Ludwig Svoboda.

      Ludwig Svoboda never served in the "Polish Army", and he received the rank of colonel only in 1943.
  • Warrior Hamilton
    Warrior Hamilton 2 February 2016 10: 53 New
    +1
    In the rear, during a terrible war, they fed, clothed, trained someone else's army. The alien army ate, dressed, trained and .... fled! It turns out that this army came in handy in the new, post-war redistribution of the Middle East between America and Great Britta. To create instability in this area, they used the old, proven Egyptian method - the creation of a foreign, evil, armed and spiced with a national idea of ​​a critical mass, which, of course, the local fellahs did not wait, did not wait and see, did not see. In order to prevent a part of the Jewish population dreaming of returning home from having illusions, the enlightened post-war Waffen-Europe staged ethnic cleansing. After that, who will go there? So the whole world was preparing a hotbed of terrorism. Then it turned out, as it should have been - the USSR "in gratitude for international assistance" received another enemy. The United States grabbed the British colonies, and little Tabaki faithfully serves his master, annoying his neighbors and reporting in time what is wrong ...
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 February 2016 10: 55 New
    +1
    Gambit, that's good.
    Israel has surfaced. But his position on Syria is interesting. They fought from the base, Gallan heights, recently bombed a couple of times, in warehouses. And that’s all. Afraid of ISIS, in contra with Turkey. An agreement seems to be with Putin.
    Maybe they divided Turkey? To us straits, Israel pipeline to Europe. Why straits what to carry? May not carry, but walk ...
    1. iouris
      iouris 2 February 2016 16: 37 New
      0
      Agreed. As always, 50% - we agree.
  • Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 2 February 2016 10: 55 New
    +1
    Stalin's plan was magnificent - the expulsion of Jews from the USSR under a humanistic pretext. It’s a pity, it’s a pity that this plan was not brought to its logical conclusion, to the very last Jew.
    As a result, they have formed a mighty fifth column here in Russia, but now they’re breaking their heads again - how and where to put them in such numbers?
    1. sleeping sayan
      sleeping sayan 2 February 2016 11: 10 New
      -1
      Putin recently urged "them" to return. Stalin "them" there, and Putin is on their leash.
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  • Bakht
    Bakht 2 February 2016 11: 03 New
    0
    Conspirology in full bloom. A set of unrelated facts. There is another point of view. And it is supported by iron facts. The Zionist movement originated in Europe and was actively supported by the British.

    Stalin is not at all involved. And about the Anders army complete nonsense is written.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 February 2016 11: 06 New
    0
    In addition. Gambit, that's good.
    Yes, and show the "Silk Road" - you will not pass by Russia.
  • Michael67
    Michael67 2 February 2016 11: 19 New
    0
    It is interesting to listen to opponents from all over the world. Will there be screams or clarifications? Liberoids, ay ... Where are you?
  • Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 2 February 2016 11: 30 New
    +3
    The people, and what are our "Israeli friends" quieted down, strange as that. That in each barrel, so to speak, but here is such a chance, uh-uh, how to put it more mildly, well, let's say this: to dissolve an unethical discussion of the problem and keep quiet, it’s not even cozy like that, sleep chtol, her, "archives "Probably study, shas with" thought "will get together and roll out the poor fellow of the author, to all the edreni Jewish hair dryer!
    1. Hello
      Hello 2 February 2016 11: 46 New
      -4
      Quote: Alget87
      The people, and what are our "Israeli friends" quieted down, strange as that. That in each barrel, so to speak, but here is such a chance, uh-uh, how to put it more mildly, well, let's say this: to dissolve an unethical discussion of the problem and keep quiet, it’s not even cozy like that, sleep chtol, her, "archives "Probably study, shas with" thought "will get together and roll out the poor fellow of the author, to all the edreni Jewish hair dryer!

      Already 100 times this nonsense is being discussed. Stalin personally created Israel did not let out Soviet Jews from a country with almost built communism, where people breathe so freely. The Union’s entire contribution is the supply of arms from Czechoslovakia I note paid, I wonder who needed weapons in Europe when the war is over. And voting at the UN would be strange if the Union voted in support of British interests. Conspirologists are such conspiracy theorists. fellow
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 2 February 2016 13: 57 New
        +1
        Oh, and here comes the voice of the God-chosen people. All right. No one helped the Jews create Israel, they themselves created. For two thousand years they couldn’t, but then they suddenly took it sharply - and created it. And all sorts of Stalin and Gromyks there didn’t help at all, but only under the feet of the Jews they got confused and greatly interfered with the creation of Israel. I set out correctly, colleague Hello? A little higher is the detailed position of your countryman atalefa, very different from yours. You already decide there.
        1. Hello
          Hello 2 February 2016 14: 19 New
          -2
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          Oh, here comes the voice of the God-chosen people

          I am glad that you respect the Old Testament so much.
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          No one helped the Jews create Israel, they themselves created. For two thousand years they couldn’t, but then they suddenly took it sharply - and created it.

          Well, not sharply, but since the end of the 19th century this idea was in the air by 1948 and it was created, and you think if the UN voted against something would have changed?
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          And all sorts of Stalin and Gromyks there didn’t help at all, but only under the feet of the Jews they got confused and greatly interfered with the creation of Israel. I set out correctly, colleague Hello?

          Absolutely wrong. Where did I write that they got in the way? The USSR did not impede the creation of Israel more correctly. But to say that the USSR created Israel is to say the least lie.
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          A little higher is the detailed position of your countryman atalefa, very different from yours. You already decide there.

          As I understand it, in Russia everyone has the same opinion on all issues? You already decide there. wink
      2. iouris
        iouris 2 February 2016 16: 39 New
        0
        How is it not released? Vysotsky sang that there were a quarter former OUR people.
  • Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 2 February 2016 11: 33 New
    +2
    Quote: Bakht
    Stalin is not at all involved. And about the Anders army complete nonsense is written.

    So argue at least with something, and then "tryndet, do not roll bags"
  • Belca
    Belca 2 February 2016 12: 35 New
    +1
    However, Stalin exported Jews from the Union to the created Israel, and Putin invites them to us :(
    1. iouris
      iouris 2 February 2016 16: 40 New
      0
      Why invite them? They are here.
  • vladimirw
    vladimirw 2 February 2016 12: 41 New
    +1
    very interesting, heard about it, but such details. Sorry not reflected how Israel became pro-American
  • iouris
    iouris 2 February 2016 13: 35 New
    0
    I am very interested in the personality of Oppenheimer. Is he a communist or a member of the family of billionaires who rule this world? Both have the goal of creating a global state.
    The history of the atomic bomb, which, in principle, cannot be used, shows how technology flows to maintain balance. And who worked there in foreign intelligence?
  • Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 2 February 2016 13: 59 New
    0
    "The history of the Medes is dark and mysterious."
  • Freeman
    Freeman 2 February 2016 14: 33 New
    0
    Quote: shasherin.pavel
    The Polish army from the remaining Poles had to be led by COLONEL Ludwig Svoboda.

    I did not find such a fact in the biography of Svoboda. What is your information based on? Or are you proceeding from the fact that the 1st Czechoslovak Czechoslovak Separate Infantry Battalion was formed in Buzuluk, where some units of the Polish Army were also formed, and the latter (after the departure of Anders' army) sorely lacked officers and Svoboda could "help" in creating the latter? So he seemed to have enough work with his battalion.
  • nirutha
    nirutha 2 February 2016 17: 33 New
    0
    Useful information.
  • Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 2 February 2016 18: 17 New
    0
    I personally think that the thing described in the article is complete nonsense! How could Israel influence the transportation of oil through the Suez Canal? No way! Where is Israel and where is the canal! And how could the appearance of Israel prevent the use of the atomic bomb? Yes, complete nonsense! The war did not start then simply because the United States did not have enough bombs! And the technology for the production of enriched uranium is still primitive and inefficient. Having a dozen other nuclear bombs does not win a war, but you can run into a retaliatory strike unexpectedly. That's just why then the war did not start, and not because of some sort of Israel. Biliberd and not an article!
  • onix757
    onix757 2 February 2016 20: 05 New
    0
    How can Putin be placed next to the great Stalin? Yeltsin is everything
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  • Freeman
    Freeman 2 February 2016 20: 49 New
    0
    The fate of one of the heroes of the article by Antonin Sokhor (surname Sohor-as in the award sheet, not Sohor-as in the article) was tragic.
    Here is the "official version" of his death:
    On July 1, 1950, Antonin Sohor was awarded the rank of lieutenant colonel, and on the night of August 15-16, 1950, a landing party truck crashed into his Skoda headquarters. According to the official version, the lieutenant colonel was sitting in the passenger seat on the right, his driver tried to avoid a collision, but the truck hit exactly where Sohor was sitting.

    And here the "official version" is spiced with elements of "conspiracy theory":
    "Top secret": http://www.sovsekretno.ru/articles/id/4635

    But those who served in the Strazh pod Ralskem garrison (TGV, Czechoslovakia), located near the site of the death of Sohor, heard a different version about the locals:
    Allegedly, a "mess" took place in one of the local parts - something like a riot. And Sokhor, a war hero, a Hero of the Soviet Union, went to "figure it out" - but on the way his car was ambushed and pelted with grenades.

    PS
    photo 1. Memorial sign at the place of death of Antonin Sokhor. 1980-81 year.
    photo 2. "Memory" from the GRATEFUL descendants. 2008-2011 year ??
    photo 3. MEMORY from the GRATEFUL descendants. 9.4.2015 - "Minister of Defense of the Czech Republic Martin Stropnický at the place where the war hero General Antonin Sohor died in August 1950 under mysterious circumstances"

















  • magician
    magician 3 February 2016 00: 30 New
    0
    good article! In the history books in our schools need to be entered.
  • Captain45
    Captain45 3 February 2016 08: 57 New
    +1
    At the end of August 1941 of the year in the villages of Totsky (Chkalov region) and Tatishchev (Saratov region) and also in Buzuluk city the formation of two rifle divisions and one regiment with a total number of 25 000 people began.
    The building of the former Noble Assembly
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  • Captain45
    Captain45 3 February 2016 09: 04 New
    0
    This is a building in Buzuluk, the photo did not fit into the previous comment, the memorial plaque was inserted and no one ever painted it with paint or poop, unlike pshek. And the graves in the old city cemetery of both Poles and Czechs (the First Czechoslovak battalion was also formed in Buzuluk) were clean and tidy.