Numerous violations in the elections to the State Duma of the Russian Federation

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Numerous violations in the elections to the State Duma of the Russian Federation


On Sunday, December 4, Russia holds elections to the sixth convocation of the Russian State Duma. In addition, local parliamentary elections are held in the 27 regions. Total for the country - about 2800 local elections and referendums. Elections are held from 8 to 20 hours and more than 108 million people with voting rights can take part in them.

Recall that the situation at the election is monitored by 688 observers from six different international organizations. On the Russian side, the number of observers was about 500 thousand people, representatives of political parties and organizations.

In the morning, according to a report made to journalists by a member of the CEC of the Russian Federation, Tatyana Voronova, the elections were held in the prescribed manner; no complaints from international observers were received. But already in 15.00 68 appeals were recorded in the election committee, which reported numerous violations and falsifications at polling stations. 45 of them came from representatives of political parties, 17 - from the voters themselves, the rest from members of election commissions.

The global network did not stand aside. On the websites of almost each of the parties of the election participants, there were many reports of all kinds of violations and fraud by opponents. Several sites were attacked, which led to instability in their work. According to the reports of bloggers in the social network Odnoklassniki, mass spamming was recorded with a call to cast your vote for United Russia. On the website ktonarushil ru, the majority of users of which support United Russia, the list of violations to 15.00 looked as follows: CPRF - 640 violations, Fair Russia - 418, LDPR - 255, Apple - 38, Just cause - 21, Patriots of Russia - 13 .

There were also videos showing the bad faith on the part of representatives of movements and parties, election participants. So on YouTube, for example, the video clip of the Vostok Media Agency was posted, which shows how early elections were held in the Amur Region, at the Evenki camps. The frame shows how one of the grandmothers, hesitated with filling out the newsletter, comes to the aid of a young man who quickly ticks off the “United Russia” point, after which she herself already puts the newsletter in the ballot box.

The site of the Communist Party, the party that provided the largest number of observers, has generally turned into news tape violations. Their leader, Gennady Zyuganov, having voted in polling station number 149, in conversations with reporters mentioned the most significant of them. He said that in the Krasnobakovsky district, in almost all polling stations, there are posters that depict ballots with checkmarks opposite the “Medvedev” surname in large print. He also noted that on the polling station number 1040, 1321 in Rostov-on-Don and many others, observers from the Communist Party recorded cases of mass dumping of ballot papers in ballot boxes. This is not a complete list provided by representatives of the Communist Party.

On the contrary, according to the United Russia version, It is Just Russia and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation that occupy the “honorable” first place in the number of violations. On their website it was reported that in the city of Sibay an observer from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation appeared at a polling station in a state of severe intoxication. Reported and numerous attempts to campaign on the sites, the distribution of leaflets and opposition party newspapers.

There is information about the Liberal Democratic Party, according to unconfirmed data, the activists of this party in the Svetly Closed Public Regiment beat a local resident Tatyana Khrapova, allegedly because she wrote her objections on a propaganda poster.

Fixed cases of mass merry-go-rounds. Representatives of the Yabloko party reported on 33 cases of mass transportation of people with absentee documents. At the 2249 polling station in Moscow, because of the reported bombing, we had to temporarily suspend the electoral process and bring people to the street.

There are reports of the arrests: the curator of Golos, Katya Alekseeva, was taken to the station in St. Petersburg, Sergei Udaltsov, the coordinator of the Left Front, was also detained.

This, of course, is not a complete list of information posted on violations. Rather - an attempt to highlight the overall picture of the elections. As previously reported, official confirmation received only a small number of violations, which were published by observers from political parties. The situation with elections will become clearer after the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation makes public the preliminary results of the voting. As expected, this should happen on December 5 around 10.00. In the meantime, it’s too early to talk about the results, it’s clear that, in spite of the huge number of observers, it wasn’t a violation.
Novokuznetsk. Voting began almost two hours later. When they began to vote, it turned out that the ballot boxes were already a third filled with ballots.


The addresses of the polling stations and fake IDs of the temporary registration are taken away from the “thrower”.


Yekaterinburg. Polling stations number 1484,1485. Preparation of ballots for stuffing.


Amur region. For the Evenki grandmothers electoral workers vote. It is visible that ticks put for "United Russia". Bulletins are filled in the helicopter with the engine running.


Volgograd. The polling station in school №92 Krasnooktyabrsky district. Agitators from United Russia threaten observers: “you don’t know who our friends are”.


Moscow, Ivanovo, plot 997. Commission Chairman Lavrova LS issues bulletins without seals. The observer from “ER” confirms the fact of the violation, but refuses to fix it, referring to his legal education and civil rights.


Bryansk. Campaign materials for United Russia were found at polling station number 71. Violation of electoral legislation is recorded.


Moscow. Falsification at the polling station number XXUMX. The chairman of the station commission fills in the ballot papers personally.


Ballot stuffing. At the opening of the ballot box, observers found bundles of bulletins arranged in even stacks. All - for the EP. The chairman of the commission snatches them out and begins to mix with a total pile.


At one of the sites in Moscow, journalists have stopped the ballot stuffing with checkmarks for the "United Russia"
At the polling station number 2945 of the Khoroshevo-Mnevniki district in Moscow, journalists, among whom was a Gazeta.Ru correspondent, stopped the ballot box stuffing with the check marks in front of the number 6


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  1. Mondeo
    +23
    4 December 2011 22: 55
    election results have long been known :)
    1. mox
      mox
      -21
      4 December 2011 23: 52
      You speak like a liberalist and a shit! (I exaggerate)
      1. Uncle Sam
        +9
        5 December 2011 21: 26
        you talk like litter edrososov (not exaggerate)
        1. mox
          mox
          -1
          6 December 2011 00: 12
          UUU crammed cons.
          So you are for democracy and freedom? Liberal and Democrat?
          Everyone recognized that the elections were partially rigged and swallowed silently. Even more - the Leader of the party of crooks and thieves under whose leadership all this was happening (vertical-blame) will be elected by the President.
          Do not tell my sneakers.
        2. +1
          6 December 2011 22: 57
          Run to Uncle Sam, maybe he’ll throw some more money!
    2. ytqnhfk
      +5
      5 December 2011 00: 14
      WELL YES THESE VIOLATIONS AS MINIMUM BY 60% OF THE VOICES OF TYAN \ UT - YES THE KPRF HELLO!
      1. -5
        5 December 2011 09: 32
        In the Nizhny Novgorod region, 60% of all violations of the Communist Party, their representative blurted out in the morning, that yes there was a wink I laughed. man
      2. -3
        5 December 2011 12: 20
        don't make people laugh
      3. -5
        6 December 2011 09: 12
        The Communist Party joyfully agreed with the voiced figures, what else tell me ???
    3. banner
      +1
      5 December 2011 13: 55
      Ah, I said that a long time ago !!! see the article "The Ministry of Defense canceled the free uniform for officers" prapor post date November 8, 2011 12:49
    4. +1
      5 December 2011 21: 48
      Mondeo, I completely agree with you on the outcome of these elections, I myself did not vote, because I was at work, I went to the polling station at 21; 00 but the doors were already closed, I could have been asked to leave work, but there was no substitution. and hundreds like me.
      1. 0
        7 December 2011 07: 47
        and you turned to the election committee on the eve ?!
        I think not, although they could
    5. 0
      6 December 2011 22: 56
      And thank God that is so, and not otherwise !!!
  2. snek
    +18
    4 December 2011 22: 56
    The grass is green, the sun rises in the east, EP "add" votes. Everyone will get angry a little and forget.
    1. slan
      +8
      4 December 2011 23: 08
      Yes, let them add, but not 10 times. A sense of proportion must still be had.
      It’s exactly the same day that they will announce to us that 48% of the buggers got the election, 14% of the lesbians
      Are we doing this too?
      1. snek
        +16
        4 December 2011 23: 39
        Already your first phrase "let them add", says that we are eating. There is an old anecdote (I'll tell you for those who may not have heard):
        The guy tells the girl:
        -Tell me, you sleep with me for a million dollars
        Yeah
        -A for a hundred rubles
        - Yes, for whom do you take me !!!
        - For whom I accept you, we have already figured out, it remains to determine the price

        So here we have already decided that we agree to deception, it remains only to decide on what arrogant and what they will promise us for it
        1. slan
          +1
          5 December 2011 00: 52
          Yes, they lowered us ..
          1. -1
            5 December 2011 12: 21
            don't speak for everyone
          2. Indigo
            -7
            5 December 2011 13: 08
            you might think that besides yours, people cannot have a different opinion. Well, for your crystal honesty, it's time to compose odes and sonnets.
    2. 0
      6 December 2011 21: 50
      Friends, the ederasts were defeated in the elections - they did not fulfill their task, did not gain more than half. This means that you cannot agree with the results in advance ("everything has already been decided") and not go to the polling stations. The more ballots are filled in, the more difficult it will be for "them" to throw in the required number of "left ballots". At least express your protest against everyone, put crosses for everyone. Ideally, of course, it would be better to vote for real competitors of ederasts with a large throughput. This experience should be taken into account in the upcoming presidential elections. After all, those ~ 40% who did not come to vote are a reserve of stuffing and falsification. I urge everyone to come to the polling stations in March and everyone, by virtue of their views, to prevent the "ruling party" of thieves and traitors from putting their representative in the presidential post. Everyone to the ballot boxes for the 2012 presidential elections!
  3. +12
    4 December 2011 23: 15
    Well, what else can you expect from a crook party? Impudent lies, with all honest people!
    Once again I am convinced that they spat on the people. None of my friends voted for EP!
    I read on the Internet - the same thing!
    Hard at heart and nasty! People, what to do? What is so unlucky with the authorities?
    1. +13
      4 December 2011 23: 34
      From my own experience, I will say that you can throw in no more than 5-7% of the votes, using the "carousel", etc. It is impossible to falsify the counting on the spot, the representatives of the parties follow each other, they count every ballot, but when everything was taken to the administration of the district, region, territory and what went to Moscow and how they considered it already interesting. In general, few people were in the elections, either everyone was tired of it, or they do not want and do not believe
      1. +1
        5 December 2011 07: 45
        Vadim, I don’t know about you, but in Novosibirsk (according to my observations, according to my acquaintances and friends), the people "piled up"! The activity was very high.
      2. -4
        5 December 2011 09: 36
        Absolutely right, it is not possible more or less realistic to break through the election by rigging by such methods. This is only the beginning of campaigning before the presidential election, and with such provocative methods.
        I will not be surprised that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation will remain silent, and then will begin its campaign under the slogan "that our votes will be stolen again." 90% of all identified violations are only recorded and immediately corrected, rough units and they will now be actively used in PR companies
        1. 0
          5 December 2011 22: 45
          Already silent. Zyuganov recognized the election results, Mironov recognized, Zhirinovsky too. So everything suits them (of course, some gross violations will be dealt with). Question to the oppositionists: "Why don't you trust your leaders?"
          With "Fair Russia" in general, the movie turned out. People "in defiance" of the Edros voted for Mironov, and he will take it and agree to a coalition with United Russia, i.e. took a bag of voices and brought them to Medvedev. wink

          Seriously, I’m quite happy with the results. Units Russia got the majority, it means there will be stability, there will be no idiotic nationalizations. At the same time, she did not receive a constitutional majority, which is also very good, because now we need to negotiate with the opposition, and not just stupidly adopt crude laws. Another plus, now it will become clear who is the real opposition, and who is just a fiction.
      3. -6
        5 December 2011 13: 01
        Quote: Vadivak
        In general, there were few people in the elections, either everyone was tired, or they did not want and did not believe

        I’m not tired, it’s just not the People, but the population, for example, in the kitchens, they will wash the bones with putom buttes as they deceived, as they were jerking, etc.
        it's time to introduce a penalty for absenteeism

        Now they will certainly kill me, but I will honestly vote for EP, although I had originally planned for Rossi’s patriots, after listening to those who had bolted from the region, I realized that ideas might be good, but these people will never realize them.
        and I voted for EP because this is the only party that helped push our problem from the dead center, the other 3 parties simply ignored our requests for help, so which one I will vote for, which before the fan is my problem.
        1. -1
          5 December 2011 22: 50
          I completely agree. All the rest are cheap populists, taking advantage of the fact that the vast majority do not understand anything in the economy.
          What are the same Communists, who swear vowingly to restore agricultural production, did not do this in the USSR? Why was the country very dependent (which ruined it) on imports of grain, meat, etc.?
    2. +6
      4 December 2011 23: 39
      Well, Gryzlov already congratulated the victory at 22.00 Moscow time, although even another 17% were not processed.
      1. -5
        5 December 2011 13: 03
        Why are you in fact, by 22 there was already infa from polls
      2. -4
        5 December 2011 14: 37
        approximate data were already known, only exact numbers were waiting
    3. Lexeich
      +2
      5 December 2011 01: 03
      It's not a matter of luck. It's your own fault. Do not expect conscience and justice from thieves. It was necessary to go to the observers at their sites. The carousel was warned in advance.
    4. Mondeo
      +6
      5 December 2011 08: 23
      Sometimes it seems that they forgot to add R. to the word of the CEC.
    5. dim
      dim
      +5
      5 December 2011 10: 06
      Of all my acquaintances, too, no one voted for edro, where do they get such numbers
    6. -5
      5 December 2011 12: 23
      Do you represent this kitchen from the inside?
      judging by what you say no, if the violations were at times already there would be screams all over the world, moreover, it is not so easy to do as it seems, the majority of this is someone’s stupidity or stupid provocation
    7. +1
      5 December 2011 15: 10
      From independent sources:
      according to polls
      Communist Party - more than 50%
      LDPR - about 20%
      Patriots of Russia - 7-10%
      SR - 10 - 15%
      UNITED RUSSIA - 3 - 5%

      RUSSIA RELAIN! TURN OFF THE TV AND STOP HOW TO FALSE WHICH YOU SUCCESSFULLY FEED !!! UNITED RUSSIA AT ALL SHOULD NOT GO THROUGH THOUGHT !!!

      I was not surprised to watch the videos - simply because I knew that the way it was, if only I could show them on the news on the central channels .....

      PS: I saw the data on the Internet from memory, maybe I made a mistake where, but not significantly, I think! I myself for none of the parties! There is something about the Communists that you like, a lot about the Liberal Democratic Party and the Patriots of Russia, and in general I have my own personal views!
      1. patriot464
        -8
        5 December 2011 15: 29
        Quote: Nachkar237
        independent personal views


        Independent of liability. And from the money? And from conscience. And finally.
        1. -1
          5 December 2011 16: 18
          Patriot464 what are you talking about? What kind of money? If you do not understand my idea, I explain the second time for the "armored":
          I am not for one of the existing parties! My personal views and beliefs do not coincide with any of the parties that exist in Russia today! (there are only some thoughts expressed, for example, the Liberal Democratic Party with which I agree, there is something in the Communists, even EP speaks beautifully!)

          HOWEVER: Not one party in the country inspires me any confidence!
          So no need to slander me (patriot464)

          here's yesterday's article http://topwar.ru/8978-vybory-2011-posledniy-otschet.html#
          1. 0
            5 December 2011 16: 41
            you never gave a link where EP is gaining 3-5%
            and once again I repeat the selection from one site (that is, from one very narrow group of voters - FILKINA GRAMOTA)
            can zamusnovat again
          2. patriot464
            -3
            5 December 2011 17: 30
            Quote: Nachkar237
            armored


            Armored.
            And so everything is true.
            1. snek
              +1
              5 December 2011 17: 39
              Quote: patriot464
              Armored. And that's right.


              Quote: patriot464
              And finally.


              Not "finally", but in general. Do not look for specks in other people's eyes
      2. -8
        5 December 2011 15: 52
        please bring the source
        and if this is done on one site, as it was here, then dvos opos sorry filkin deed
        for example in LANDON the "stub" won
        1. +1
          5 December 2011 16: 21
          Vasilenko, read last night therefore and wrote in his comment that I could be wrong ....
          I wonder here that a lot of EP-sheep? Did I offend them? wink my rating has already fallen lol
          1. -7
            5 December 2011 16: 42
            you never gave a link where EP is gaining 3-5%
            and once again I repeat the selection from one site (that is, from one very narrow group of voters - FILKINA GRAMOTA)
            can zamusnovat again
            1. +2
              5 December 2011 17: 15
              Here you link and here, and to find an independent source where EdRo won you just will not succeed!
      3. prunx
        -6
        5 December 2011 17: 58
        Who the fuck are you hanging on your ears !?
        1. snek
          +1
          5 December 2011 21: 51
          Quote: prunx
          Who the fuck are you hanging on ears

          Is this some kind of new fashion - hang noodles evenly throughout your body?
      4. +1
        6 December 2011 09: 11
        Strange, but even your opposition disagrees with your independent source. winked so shove it in yourself .... !!!! Nobody shouts about falsification, or do you believe those you voted for ???
    8. +1
      6 December 2011 00: 15
      Tell me at least one batch of our time, where there is no crook. All in one boiler was boiled. EdRo at least does something, the rest only crack with tongues and wait until they are allowed to come closer to the feeder. These at least have gathered and begin to think about others, but the rest still need to go through the accumulation stage. So everyone draws conclusions. And one more thing: how many appearances in the squares and revolutions were not made, ordinary people remained in the windings as they were. The winners were only the leaders.
  4. PN
    +23
    4 December 2011 23: 19
    Vote, do not vote, you still get x ... oh no, United Russia
    1. +4
      5 December 2011 08: 45
      It is the same
    2. Artemka
      -2
      5 December 2011 14: 28
      Damn, like that, like a lot against United Russia but still they have the majority. Although of course less than in previous elections.
    3. +1
      9 December 2011 13: 57
      Not true. More precisely, not entirely true. It may become smaller. It has already become. But the votes of the "dead" voters went to Edru.
  5. Anatoly
    +20
    4 December 2011 23: 28
    You watch how the feeder pulls! Straight war, between parties. bully
    and I voted for the Communist Party!
  6. patriot464
    +6
    4 December 2011 23: 36
    We men knew all this. The good news is that it is harder to crook every year.
    He voted for the Communist Party. On the next - for Putin.
    1. +1
      4 December 2011 23: 42
      patriot464 And where is the logic of the Communist Party of the opposition of Putin? smile
      1. mox
        mox
        +3
        4 December 2011 23: 53
        +100500. It’s illogical.
        Putin is the head of the ZhiV party.
      2. patriot464
        0
        5 December 2011 00: 10
        Surg
        All Duma parties are sovereign.
        Voted against officials.
        I believe in a good king (Russian I).
  7. +11
    4 December 2011 23: 54
    Yeah, vote for Putin in March, that's cool ...
    Brotherhood today - godfather - in March. There is no alternative type.
    Yes, he has nothing to do with today's dirty elections. (It's me with sarcasm).
    No, the fish goes dead from the head. Al forgotten this wisdom?
    1. patriot464
      -2
      5 December 2011 00: 32
      Samsebenaum
      I ask you to strongly indicate who you will be for in March.
      Or just criticize much?
      1. Lexeich
        +5
        5 December 2011 01: 32
        Patriot, are you collecting files? Let me answer you. I wanted to vote for Yabloko, but when it became known that most likely they would not gain 7%, I voted for the Communist Party. And everyone I asked voted for the Communist Party and only so that their voices would not go to the party of thieves.
        In March, we will vote for the candidate who will be jointly elected by the Communist Party, Yabloko, etc. The Medveputy got everyone.
        1. -6
          5 December 2011 13: 05
          did you believe this idiot Yavlinsky with his "land of the house of the road" ?!
          very indicative of the fact that he won in London and Washington
        2. prunx
          -12
          5 December 2011 13: 42
          So the Communist Party is the party of thieves and defends the interests of thieves. And the deputy Smolin, in addition to this, defends the interests of sexual minorities.
          1. prunx
            -8
            5 December 2011 18: 04
            Minus the quiet people, it would be better to admire: http://moment-istini.ru/program_archiv/archive2011/?vid=324&start=2
      2. +7
        5 December 2011 19: 05
        He voted for the Communist Party, in March I will be for Zyuganich, I’m not saying that their party is chic and there are no thieves, but they have a normal program, and this is the only party today that can really compete with Edor. But to choose the same thing every time and hope it might be better this time, is sado-masachism. IMHO
        1. prunx
          -5
          5 December 2011 20: 18
          Surg, how funny and stupid-stupid you are. Now, if someone lets work well, then why change it? Let it continue to work. You understand, sickly, that your KPRPRFR already had a majority in the thought. Do you need to provide a list of anti-people laws for which the KPRPRF voted for by a majority? Why are you so underdeveloped? So, even with all the negative karma, United Russia has brought orders of magnitude more benefit to the country than your Marxist barbells. It is obvious! Well, the fact that you minus me everywhere will not change anything.
          1. snek
            +5
            5 December 2011 21: 57
            O great and advanced one, could you come down to us, mere mortals, and tell in more detail about the enormous benefit that, in your opinion, brought us the sun-making United Russia?
            PS I am not doing minus / plusing, but I can assume that if you called less people here "underdeveloped", then there would be no such negative.
            1. -3
              6 December 2011 13: 41
              Do you think that there is no use at all?
        2. -4
          6 December 2011 13: 40
          And what exactly do you consider promising from the program of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation?
  8. +18
    5 December 2011 00: 06
    Total: 146.47% votes.
    1. liiloo
      0
      5 December 2011 00: 17
      Well, that's enough for everyone ...)))
    2. slan
      +2
      5 December 2011 00: 50
      Here are the results. 59 e .. Russian% minus 47 extra% total 12%
    3. +1
      5 December 2011 09: 35
      Well done!!! This table is the whole essence of "elections.) Did foreign observers notice this too? Shame!"
    4. +1
      5 December 2011 11: 53
      146,47% voted fellow out of 100% possible? Or do we have a sharp "demographic explosion" during the elections (were born immediately with the right to vote for the United Russia)?
      1. lightforcer
        0
        5 December 2011 20: 18
        At times I have a question, but are there 140 million of us? Maybe the real number of the population and its decline are slightly different?
    5. +4
      5 December 2011 13: 45
      Even here the consequences of the modernization of education are visible:
      The preliminary data on the results of voting to the State Duma of the Russian Federation, broadcast on central television with reference to the Central Election Commission of Russia (CEC), is causing enormous bewilderment. Judging by the picture that was shown for the Sverdlovsk region, 115,35% immediately voted in the region. This is exactly what happens if you add up the percentages of votes cast in support of 7 parties that participated in the elections: “United Russia” - 39,61%, “Fair Russia” - 30,59%, KPRF - 18,64%, LDPR - 17,67%, “Apple” - 3,82 %, “Just Cause” - 2,75%, “Patriots of Russia” - 2,27%.

      But this is not the limit in the Voronezh region for the same data voted 128,96%: "United Russia" - 66,32%, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - 31,11%, "Fair Russia" - 17,22%, LDPR - 11,72%, "Apple" - 4,55%, "Patriots of Russia" - 1,38%, "Just Cause" - 0,66%.

      However, most of all I am amused by the broadcast result in the Rostov region. There 146,47% of voters came to the polls. At the same time, 58,99% voted for United Russia, 32,96% for the Communist Party, 23,74% for LDPR, 19,41% for Fair Russia, 9,32% for Yabloko, 1,46% for Patriots Rossi, 0,59 % - for the "just cause".
    6. +2
      5 December 2011 15: 47
      Have all the dead been raised?
  9. mijgan-jigan
    -2
    5 December 2011 00: 24
    I wonder who adjusts all this ...
    obviously those who want to ruin Russia.
    all these scandals, attempts to build up disagreement among the people ...
    I am not for "United Russia", but we do not need boiling!
    1. +7
      5 December 2011 00: 32
      Well, such cynicism towards the people is also not needed !!!
      1. mijgan-jigan
        -4
        5 December 2011 00: 54
        But what if fools were hired for United Russia to make votes? they promised there they don’t know what ... and people didn’t hire from United Russia, but those who benefit from scandals and enraged people. and then they were presented masterfully in front of the cameras ...
        Isn’t this possible ???
        1. 0
          9 December 2011 14: 04
          If you yourself went as an observer you would not have to build guesses now. I was. And my friends were. And so I will say - who came - in my area I gave my voice to the one whom I wanted. Who did not come - EDR, not all, of course, but there were falsifications. I personally tried to pick up the lists from the deputy chairman, according to which she made entries from her knees to the registries. If I had honest observers, I would say what the real percentage of Edra was. And yet, really, counting the ballots in favor of the Edra, those who voted for another batch accidentally put the invalid.
          LDPR and SR did not catch flies at all! Is this all by accident?
      2. prunx
        -12
        5 December 2011 13: 46
        What cynicism? Evidence in the teeth and in court! If there is no evidence - a bread slicer at the castle! So in all countries. And it’s better to leave your fantasies about something to yourself.
        1. +2
          9 December 2011 14: 06
          Hey, the "red army" with edrosovsim inclinations, you are not overwhelmed with evidence. And you even in the eyes of the ssy - all the dew of God.
          1. mitrich
            +2
            9 December 2011 14: 12
            solodova,
            return the photo back. It is possible in full growth. And then instead of your pretty face, some kind of cartoon pops up ...
            1. 0
              9 December 2011 16: 42
              Mitrich, I went underground. winked
              Were you yourself against that picture? And this, though a cartoon, is ideologically seasoned.
              1. mitrich
                +1
                9 December 2011 17: 01
                solodova,
                in vain you are shy. I somehow noticed below on the first page of the user with the tricky name Seksy (or something like this), so there is a t-shit avatar, that the hand involuntarily reaches, plus to put. And if with a magnifying glass, then wish something nice wink !
                Maria Kozhevnikova did not hide her merits. Now the deputy of the State Duma of the 6th convocation ...
                1. +2
                  9 December 2011 17: 41
                  No, this is not shyness. I want to read what I think, and not to look at how I look. Yes, and I'm not rushing to the deputies. Interestingly, if you register a user with stupid remarks, but what will happen as a frank avatar? wink
  10. proud bird
    +5
    5 December 2011 00: 30
    Democracy is deadly for Russia
    1. mox
      mox
      -4
      5 December 2011 01: 36
      And was she?
      Although not. The basis for building the CPSU was democratic centralism. I remember now.
      1. mox
        mox
        +1
        6 December 2011 23: 22
        Oh! Again young growth naminusovat.
        Okay, I’m not offended, I’ll teach, otherwise you were taught to bark at the word democracy.
        The Charter of the CPSU Section III. ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE OF THE PARTY. IN-PARTY DEMOCRACY
        19. The guiding principle of the party’s organizational structure is democratic centralism, which means:
        a) the election of all the governing bodies of the party from top to bottom;
        b) periodic reporting of party bodies to their party organizations and to higher bodies;
        c) strict party discipline and submission of the minority to the majority;
        d) unconditional binding decisions of higher bodies for lower.

        Well, at least read from here http://grigam.narod.ru/bibl/kpss/ustav04.htm
    2. +1
      5 December 2011 14: 55
      proud bird,
      Democracy is a myth, however, like "world terrorism" ...
      1. lightforcer
        0
        5 December 2011 20: 21
        The countries of the European Union are mythical.
        1. +1
          9 December 2011 17: 56
          Well, well, well .. and where is democracy?
          Firstly, do not distort, we are not talking about countries, but about the system. Countries certainly exist, but democracy in them is a fat myth with a substitution of concepts.
          Direct democracy in modern society is impossible by definition, it simply cannot function. Hence run by representatives. Which in any country carry out duties not very consulted with the people. Both with them and with us. And noodles about sacred democracy, this is a good slogan for the Papuans. But the incident is that despite the authoritarian rule (among the Papuans you see the leaders govern), they are closer to true democracy. There, the leader, making vital decisions, consults with the tribe, there are not many people and it is simple to discuss. Only they have a discussion about changing parking can take up to a week. Imagine a modern country with this method of government? Point out where she is. You may not try, many smart people have tried to do this for you. Not found. So, democracy is a myth.
  11. +14
    5 December 2011 00: 33
    People, just don’t swear among themselves over these elections, the main thing is that there is shelter, food and the army, but we won’t earn money on the port? Give a cohesive RUSSIA !!! bully
    1. patriot464
      +1
      5 December 2011 00: 36
      Quote: Dmitry T
      Give a cohesive RUSSIA !!!


      I agree completely.
    2. proud bird
      +7
      5 December 2011 02: 10
      I also agree. On my own I would add that in order to get a united Russia we need a ruler with an "iron hand, who would have enormous popularity (in the good sense of the word) among the people, and not among the oligarchy."
  12. cVM
    cVM
    +1
    5 December 2011 00: 35
    there are no violations on the plane, they ask where to tick and vote, and so they always were and will be
  13. sensey
    +22
    5 December 2011 00: 38
    The falsification went fine.
    Voting during violations was not noticed.
    1. patriot464
      -4
      5 December 2011 00: 46
      Quote: Sensey
      The falsification went fine. No votes were noticed during the violations.


      The opinion of the State Department was taken into account in half a vote.
      1. -3
        5 December 2011 11: 56
        for each voted campaign lol
  14. Anchar44
    +3
    5 December 2011 00: 56
    The people once again receive the power they deserve .... There were two polling stations (my wife and I vote in different places), the lists of voters were hardly 1/4 full. Long live on ...
    1. +2
      5 December 2011 08: 51
      Once again, the people receive the power they deserve ...


      Are you sure? For a long time already the people are separated from the power. People separately, power separately. Because such voting results.
      1. -1
        5 December 2011 19: 37
        Also voted on the lists are almost empty, the commission said the youth is not going to vote.
  15. 0
    5 December 2011 00: 56
    Quote: patriot464
    I ask you to strongly indicate who you will be for in March.
    Or just criticize much?

    Firstly, I do not like being poked. We are not familiar.
    There are enough critics both abruptly and meaner.
    Secondly, I criticize only based on facts.
    Well, as for the elections in March, I will vote for Yavlinsky.
    A reasonable politician, economist, educated and restrained.
    Moreover, I carefully read his program. Everything is logical and calculated.
    What else interests you?
    1. slan
      +1
      5 December 2011 01: 02
      By the way, yes. It’s just that they drove us so firmly into the head that it’s useless to vote for him that the majority of those who sympathize with him vote for others or do not vote at all.
    2. patriot464
      +1
      5 December 2011 01: 37
      Samsebenaum
      1. Iosif Vissarionovich, I ask you for the "you" on the site, I think it is accepted. See my profile.
      2. Without criticism, there is no movement, and we all have facts above the roof.
      Yavlinsky had a chance while we believed in the West. I read the program - repeating EP. Putin is also intelligent, educated and restrained.
      Quote: Samsebenum
      What else interests you?

      If you allow me, you (with a capital letter).
    3. +4
      5 December 2011 09: 10
      Fifteen years voted for Yabloko, and for Yavlinsky. But recently, he has been disappointed with the policy of economic liberalism. The modern economic model in Russia (and throughout the world) leads to collapse (for sure, deep crises). K. Marx was right. The concentration of the country's wealth among a narrow circle of speculators (oligarchs) leads to the impoverishment of the Russian population. Market levers do not work. Owners, once profitable, are not interested in the development of enterprises, pump loot from there and export it abroad.
      I am for a planned economy in Russia. Or rather, for the planned - market. Large enterprises, mining, energy, defense industry must belong to the state and work on a planned basis. Small, serving - on a planned - market basis.
      All energy producing, energy producing enterprises must be nationalized. (There are many methods: to redeem from those who legally acquired, to confiscate from those who appropriated by the thieves.)
      In a global crisis, focus on the domestic consumer. Gradually refusing to import, produce our own high-quality goods.
      And much more.
      Because only the Communist Party and no one more !!!!!
    4. ytqnhfk
      -5
      5 December 2011 11: 11
      YOU DADDY DO NOT KNOW THAT HE IS PURCHASED BY AMERUS A DRINKED BIRD ?!
      1. -1
        5 December 2011 12: 09
        about a person who sits on a salary, you should not say - "he was bought" The only question is who appointed the salary !! Apple is supported by "independent international funds" and the US State Department (Yavlinsky himself spoke about this, they say, well, so what? We are not ashamed of it !!) He is paid - he fulfills. But is it worth it to take seriously what he hums to strangers notes (as I was an outsider, so they will remain - people are not so cheap)
      2. Uncle Sam
        +2
        5 December 2011 21: 28
        how do you know?
  16. Cardamom
    +1
    5 December 2011 00: 58
    The elections are completely fake and paid for. Much has been said about the "American money" with which the opposition is paid, another question: with whose money were these fraudulent elections bought? It would seem how much money is needed for an entire country, but ... Everyone knows and sees in his region: the city's mayor is relatively not poor, let's say, especially in big cities; GOVERNOR of the region with all kickbacks from various businesses and others - any millionaire; MINISTERS - there is no point in talking at all ... THE PRESIDENT of Russia .... It's not just kickbacks here, it's like in the joke "what is the tsar's salary ..." He has EVERYTHING from EVERYTHING! These are BILLIONS, and dollars! What should he allocate several million bucks to buy hungry teachers, doctors, students? Everyone saw what was happening and what was happening. The country is sold. But not to the West, no. It was sold to Putin for personal use. He bought it as a rarity, once handed over to a pawnshop by someone. All of us are capable of torturing the keyboard with stupid slogans, unable to tear our ass off the sofa and express OUR WILL, the will of the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA so that we can be heard! Today he brought his slaves to power, and tomorrow he will sit on the throne. Nothing depends on us. Smile and wave. Finita la comedia, gentlemen!
    1. -2
      5 December 2011 01: 47
      Actually, at all times when Russia had a throne, it was a mighty power.
  17. nordwokintos
    -6
    5 December 2011 01: 03
    I do not understand this hype around the election. Why is everyone so eager to fill up edrosov? Well, the Genka will win and will be busy with showdowns, and at that time his environment will rob the country. Well girik will win and the country will fall apart. I’m silent about Yablonsky.
    1. Lexeich
      +5
      5 December 2011 02: 13
      and it is right. keep silent better. There was a time when newspapers printed how party representatives voted in the Duma. So, Yabloko with her votes proved that she really is for the Russian people.
      By the way, and someone noticed how the medical deputies recently adopted the unconstitutional !!!! law, which introduces juvenile justice in Russia. This is generally a complete PIZDETS ... to all of us
      http://genocid.net/news_section.php?sid=16
      http://www.juvenaljustice.ru/index.php
      Vote for medveputov and be prepared that you can pick up your child at any time
      (http://otvet.mail.ru/question/59938842/) So, today you can remove a child (children) from an average family for the following reasons:
      - non-attendance of children's dairy cuisine;
      - the child was not promptly vaccinated;
      - housing in disrepair;
      - the apartment needs repair;
      - the apartment is being renovated;
      - the presence of pets in the house;
      - immoral behavior (being in underwear in the presence of a child);
      - untimely passage of doctors in a children's clinic;
      - toys and rubbish are scattered on the floor;
      - lack of children's toys in sufficient quantities;
      - the child plays with foreign objects instead of toys;
      - the child performs homework, such as: washing dishes, sweeping and washing floors, washing, etc .;
      - the child is in the kitchen with his mother in the process of cooking;
      - the child often and loudly screams and cries;
      - the refrigerator does not contain the entire range of products the child needs or the products are expired.
      1. patriot464
        -1
        5 December 2011 04: 59
        Quote: Lexeich
        So, today you can remove a child (children) from an average family


        Please announce the law and articles. Zadolbali spinogry :) I looked at the links.
      2. ytqnhfk
        +2
        5 December 2011 11: 17
        Would Lekseich go to sleep, or no longer help? An apple on Amer’s pesticides and this worm in an apple with a flag from a w ... sticking out runs well and will sell it upon coming to power !!!!
      3. -5
        5 December 2011 15: 58
        Quote: Lexeich
        Vote for medveputov and be prepared that you can pick up your child at any time (http://otvet.mail.ru/question/59938842/) So, today you can remove a child (children) from an average family for the following reasons:

        when you give links, think a little, otherwise tomorrow you will be referred to information from Odessa Privoz
    2. proud bird
      -7
      5 December 2011 02: 16
      Remains SR smile I consider her the only worthy party.
    3. petor41
      -6
      5 December 2011 15: 14
      I completely agree! Therefore, he voted for EP, they certainly already drank everything and settled among themselves, they can do work!
      1. petor41
        -4
        5 December 2011 15: 34
        I agree with nordwokintos
        1. 0
          5 December 2011 19: 43
          SR Nitsche so, slogans seem sensible, BUT this party was created by Edrom in order to delay votes from the same Communist Party. And notice it happened.
      2. lightforcer
        +4
        5 December 2011 20: 26
        Yes, since everyone has foreign citizenship or a residence permit, they will be engaged in work. Now we are waiting for a monstrously unpredictable time, where everything is possible. Putin is not as predictable as everyone thinks.
  18. -1
    5 December 2011 01: 28
    Quote: slan
    By the way, yes. It’s just that they drove us so firmly into the head that it’s useless to vote for him that the majority of those who sympathize with him vote for others or do not vote at all.

    Yes, Slan, this is a bitter truth. Thank you for your understanding and support ... from me +.
    And so that nothing is driven into our heads, we need to force our brains to think, reflect, and analyze.
    And thinking, as Henry Ford said, "is the hardest thing to do."
    1. slan
      +1
      5 December 2011 21: 46
      And from the other flank, Semigin is more credible for me.
      And surprisingly, I know people who voted for Yabloko and the Patriots of Russia, but have never seen a living e..noros. No, I do not deny that there are such, but only half ..
  19. 0
    5 December 2011 01: 47
    Okay, patriot464, we won’t swear because of politicians and politicians.
    This is not rational, especially on the site.
    I think we have a lot more common interests.
    1. patriot464
      +1
      5 December 2011 02: 16
      Quote: Samsebenum
      I think we have a lot more common interests.


      Yes.
  20. Boot under the carpet
    +6
    5 December 2011 01: 49
    I think this is not worthy of discussion! They make fools of the people ... that's all!
    In our city, almost everyone working in the medical field and in the industry was promised big bonuses for the voice of Edinoros, almost an obligation. None of my friends vote for EP, most for the Communist Party. Where is the truth and common sense? Window dressing. It's a shame that at the expense of state employees they will stuff the feed! They will build a couple of kindergartens at the expense of our taxes to the state and will smoke in their leather chairs, examining new fissures in the nuclear fist.
    1. +3
      5 December 2011 02: 04
      Boot under the carpet,
      I also have no friends who would vote for EdRo.
      1. ytqnhfk
        -9
        5 December 2011 11: 20
        And I don’t know any of my friends who voted not for food ro! All for United Russia!
        1. -1
          5 December 2011 23: 03
          I also have many friends who voted for Ed. Russia
      2. +1
        5 December 2011 15: 18
        Today I dig one ... This is the one from whom I did not expect!
  21. -6
    5 December 2011 02: 03
    According to all allegations, state structures are controlled by United Russia. By all accounts, no one votes for it. Explain to me, why the hell, in state institutions I forcefully force people to go to the polls. Is the reverse logical? If they don’t vote for you, why make even more people vote? It will also be harder to falsify.
    As already mentioned above, about the stuffing of billutes, this generally looks like a bear service. At 100000 polling stations, if even at all without exception there will be stuffing, and not 5-6 as shown in the commercials, but 30-50. This will make up less than 5% of all voters. Is it dumb?
    Judging by a margin of about 30%, at least 330-350 ballots must be thrown at all polling stations without exception. And how much do people need for this? + those who made fake registrations,
    Indeed, it is time to start thinking and analyzing what they saw and heard.
    1. +3
      5 December 2011 15: 27
      Cap-3 ussr,

      The war invalid never came to my grandfather. And he was waiting ...
      1. +1
        5 December 2011 16: 02
        he also discussed this question with the election commission ?!
        If so, why didn’t I call when I didn’t come? If no, then the claim is not clear
  22. +1
    5 December 2011 02: 24
    Lexeich, is that right?
    Something is really cool ...
    The reluctance to use the links today is too late.
    1. Lexeich
      0
      5 December 2011 02: 39
      While the country's public was at war with the State Duma over the "Law on Health Protection", juvenile justice was quietly and invisibly introduced in Russia.

      The law that introduced it is called rather tricky - FZ No. 264736-5 "On Amendments to the Federal Law" On Basic Guarantees of Children's Rights in the Russian Federation "and certain legislative acts of the Russian Federation in connection with the introduction of the institution of the Commissioner under the President of the Russian Federation for rights child ”, but its hidden meaning is simple: the reorientation of domestic state policy to the priority of the rights of the child, and this is juvenile justice.

      July 18, 2011 juvenile justice introduced in Russia
      The new law speaks of the introduction in Russia of only one post - the Commissioner for Children's Rights under the President, but in fact legalizes all ombudsmen of the country.
      After it, “by default” all “child defenders” in schools become legalized, although there is not only a law about them, but even no regulation.
      And since people are appearing connected by common activities, it’s already about creating a system - a service of supervisory “experts” in the family sphere, with control and repressive functions, unlimited rights and accountability to anyone ..... see further http: // warfiles .ru / show-203-perezagruzka-proshla-uspeshno-18-noyabrya-2011-gvr
      ossii-vvedena-yuvenalnaya-yusticiya.html
      1. 0
        5 December 2011 15: 29
        Lexeich,
        Genocide continues ...
        1. -4
          5 December 2011 16: 09
          one more, read the law, what do you undertake to discuss it?
      2. -4
        5 December 2011 16: 08
        Quote: Lexeich
        The law that introduced it is called rather tricky - FZ No. 264736-5 "On Amendments to the Federal Law" On Basic Guarantees of Children's Rights in the Russian Federation "and certain legislative acts of the Russian Federation in connection with the introduction of the institution of the Commissioner under the President of the Russian Federation for rights child ”, but its hidden meaning is simple: the reorientation of domestic state policy to the priority of the rights of the child, and this is juvenile justice.

        I don’t know how old you are, but the child and the old man always need to think
        firstly, it’s not the Federal Law, but the draft law, in any case, it was still 6 days ago (does your brain matter perceive the difference?)
        secondly you PERSONALLY read this project ?!
      3. -3
        5 December 2011 23: 08
        Stop carrying garbage. This bill was discussed, but because of the large number of negative reviews it has so far been rejected.

        And what the hell is it so zealously minus here?
      4. +2
        9 December 2011 14: 16
        Lekseich is right. Children can be taken from quite prosperous families. Even on the basis of disloyalty to the government. There were incidents. Some, by the way, Astakhov taxied.
        Has anyone tried to adopt a child from an orphanage? So - the invalid will be given to you without bothering. But there is no healthy child, because our foreign comrades willingly take them. Not free. Not in all, of course, orphanages. Demand for Russian children is increasing, healthy ones are becoming less and less, such mainly in wealthy families. There are specious pretexts to take them away.
        But some believed in the holy double and the bear spirit so much that they would not see anything until they took the child away from them.
    2. -6
      5 December 2011 16: 03
      these links from forums, from blogs and type answer - ask
  23. -5
    5 December 2011 02: 25
    Yes, I almost forgot, the majority is in the Duma, it is 2/3 (300 out of 450 places), and this is 66,66%. What prevented EdR from drawing exactly this figure? The percentage of those who did not pass the barrier is about 5. Even if they are given to EdR, they still do not have enough about 10%.
    1. patriot464
      -2
      5 December 2011 02: 42
      Quote: Cap-3 of the USSR
      Yes, I almost forgot, the majority is in the Duma, it is 2/3 (300 out of 450 places), and this is 66,66%. What prevented EdR from drawing exactly this figure? The percentage of those who did not pass the barrier is about 5. Even if they are given to EdR, they still do not have enough about 10%.


      No ... No ... Nooooo! Democracy!!!??? You deprived Kasparov (tm) of a piece of bread! :)
      1. sir
        +1
        5 December 2011 04: 08
        yes let him play chess am
      2. -3
        5 December 2011 16: 11
        but can it still be deprived of anything else? !!!!!
    2. +1
      9 December 2011 14: 40
      Quote: Cap-3 of the USSR
      What prevented EdR from drawing exactly this figure?

      Observers on the one hand, and secondly they are chaos, but not. demented
      In our area, by the way, they have just 66,66 percent. There were plots showing over 70%. Can you imagine how they pulled the results? In Tambov, a member of the commission was pulled out by 6 police officers for trying to make the elections honest. I personally know him. She saw what was happening.
  24. mind1954
    -2
    5 December 2011 03: 20
    Well, the referendum has passed!

    In 1917, 85% of the population was rural, 75% were illiterate.
    Despite this, people understood that there was nothing to expect from the nobility,
    and the bourgeoisie does not bring anything good, somehow, I realized that
    with private capital, Russia has no future and made its
    final choice in 1918.
    Now there is no question of private capital. And only 20% of the population
    against sacking, sale of the country, against destruction
    education, science, technical and industrial potentials.
    Apparently, in five years there will be nothing to save here,
    and no one!
    Well, we are not the first and we are not the last in the history of the world
    civilization.
    Alas, Russia has not fulfilled its historical task.
    It remains for her, only, to wish a "happy journey" into the abyss
    historical nonexistence. GOODBYE, SALE RUSSIA!
    1. patriot464
      +1
      5 December 2011 03: 31
      Quote: mind1954
      Well, then, we are not the first and we are not the last in the history of world civilization.


      Stop the tantrum. I suggest, nevertheless, to suffer.
    2. Bob
      +1
      5 December 2011 10: 09
      mind1954-Alas, Russia did not fulfill its historical task.
      I do not agree. Russia is still ahead, as is each of us. In the world, the evil that only Russia alone can destroy is growing very intensively. Those Satanists who stood at the helm in the West, armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons including can destroy any country, subjugate any people except Russia.
      War is inevitable, and Russia will soon have to engage in mortal combat with this enemy. Armageddon, The End of the World - it can be called differently, it does not change the essence. Nuclear mushrooms, contaminated water and food in the vast territory of destroyed cities and the destruction of 1/3 of the world's population (who will survive will envy the dead) - all this awaits us, unfortunately. The only question is time. And this time needs to be spent smartly. I don’t know how everyone decides for himself. Not a bad option - to migrate to Western Siberia, there are more chances for survival. I would very much like to make mistakes in the forecasts, but the demonized West does not give any chance. In trials and through great hardships a new bright civilization should be born.
      Ask where the information comes from - a simple juxtaposition of facts - where we were, where we are and where everything is moving.
    3. -7
      5 December 2011 16: 13
      But besides pathos, what else is the thread?
      Who did you vote for?
    4. Uncle Sam
      +4
      5 December 2011 21: 32
      something like this and I imagine all this, the only thing I want to believe is that they will throw these goats.
  25. Guns
    +6
    5 December 2011 04: 20
    one thing, Western observers recognized the election to say that medveputy and edrosnya go the right way to the final destruction of the country
  26. -1
    5 December 2011 06: 09
    Comrades! What is surprising here is that parties need votes; they do this in all legal and non-legal ways. In Russia, this is commonplace unfortunately. At least 1 honest party I have never seen.
  27. -1
    5 December 2011 06: 14
    We would have your "spark" between Putin and Medvedev! And you, at the same time, our orange and blue - would pray for a return!
    1. lightforcer
      -1
      5 December 2011 20: 31
      Yours then at least alternate. If everyone is so sure that with them "life has become better, life has become more fun," they could have held fair elections at least once. If other parties are really worse, we would vote for them ourselves.
  28. -2
    5 December 2011 06: 48
    I ask you not to throw off your problems to us!
  29. ESCANDER
    +3
    5 December 2011 07: 20
    According to the CEC (processed 91% of the vote) EP - 49,8%.
    Vladimir Putin - “indicators reflect the real situation in the country.”
    “Fair elections” ...
  30. +2
    5 December 2011 07: 29
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    I ask you not to throw off your problems to us!

    Not yours, Dear!
    I am Russian! So I was, and I will remain. I am proud that my historical homeland has risen from its knees. And he does not "run with bulging eyes" and arms outstretched from both sides - wherever they serve, he is a friend. Apparently, in order to appreciate the last 15 years of Russia's development, you need to live far from it.
    1. mar.tira
      -2
      5 December 2011 07: 48
      VadimSt Today, 07:29 a new one. And we are no better than you. We also run with outstretched hands. And we take handouts from our new gentlemen millionaires so as not to starve to death. Only these millionaires were just millionaires, and after these elections will be deputies. so that no one inadvertently harms them legally In any case, we have an oil magnate in our deputies from EP.
    2. lightforcer
      +1
      5 December 2011 20: 34
      She rose from her knees, but stood in a dirty puddle.
  31. Owl
    +2
    5 December 2011 08: 02
    The traitors to the Motherland used the "power resource" and defeated the Russian People.
  32. patriot464
    -2
    5 December 2011 08: 18
    Owl,

    Did the Russian people ask?
    I just started to be defeated, for example. He warmed up.
  33. +2
    5 December 2011 08: 59
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    Comrades! What is surprising here is that parties need votes; they do this in all legal and non-legal ways. In Russia, this is commonplace unfortunately. At least 1 honest party I have never seen.

    I have already said in the topic about Ukraine - all oppositionists and democrats are just queuing up to "gulp" out of the state trough in their interests. It's just that many believe that something will change - I, in Ukraine, have been waiting for changes for 20 years, but apparently I will never wait - there are too many "patriots" in the queue, only there are no guardians of the people there, and there weren't any!
  34. +1
    5 December 2011 09: 14
    The main thing is not how they voted, but how they considered the essence of the elections in the Russian Federation.
  35. Almor
    +1
    5 December 2011 09: 20
    How sad it is, but the results were really already known ... If the "especially close" spoke about it openly and a couple of days before the elections ... Where are the results, where so many votes come from, who and how it all admits ... election commissions !!
    1. +2
      5 December 2011 09: 55
      And you don’t know how they take the votes, you vote for whom it’s good that you don’t or they will fire you from work (they will find the reason) or you will not hand over the session, in short, the ultimatum is all around.
  36. Bob
    +1
    5 December 2011 09: 52
    What an "UNEXPECTED" result - EP won by a large margin. And this means (according to Medvedev) that the course has been chosen correctly. "Good" extras are sitting with them, they make a summary-grouping - they work out their daily bread.
    It should be noted that the EP has already gained more than 50% - which means they will not count anyone in the Duma ... they will continue to push their reforms without regard to the benefit of the class of officials. Definitely - the figure of 50% is the starting point - this is the setting that was given from above to get a controlling stake in parliamentary seats.
  37. +3
    5 December 2011 10: 04
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    And you don’t know how they take the votes, you vote for whom it’s good that you don’t or they will fire you from work (they will find the reason) or you will not hand over the session, in short, the ultimatum is all around.

    Facts have taken place to be. Everywhere.
    Apparently, this is the "initiative" of the governors. Medvedev told them without reservations that the effectiveness of their work (read the position) would depend on voting for the United Russia in the region.
    Well, what was left for them?
  38. dmb
    +4
    5 December 2011 10: 07
    Well, everything was clear with EP even before the elections. But the communists (by the way, I voted for them)? How can one explain, given a huge protest electorate, their rather modest result? I think something needs to be changed at the conservatory. And probably first of all "rector". Let's be honest. The propaganda was incompetent. She was clearly inferior to both the Socialist-Revolutionaries and the Liberal Democratic Party. Well, I would like to propose to respected colleagues on the site from among those who voted for the United Russia by conviction, and not for their official position or an interest-free bank loan: "Let's discuss the results of the elections in October-November 2012".
    1. petor41
      -8
      5 December 2011 14: 52
      Come on in February 2013 ?! I voted for United Russia in the State Duma! I am not a fan of this party, I am for the pluralism of opinions in the state. in the Duma, but it’s too early for this, stability is needed, so the majority should still be with the party in power, when everything is calm in our country, then we can choose from others! I want to say that the agitation of all parties was just disgusting! It all came down to a banal criticism of the existing government and nothing more! We also had local elections and I voted for the Communist Party, I thought if they suddenly took a decent place in the local elections, then I’ll see what they can do good, what the hell they’ve taken - 30% and 24% shared EP and SR accordingly, I interviewed 10 people I knew, I voted for the Communists alone! So the internet polls are bullshit! I didn’t notice any violations!
      1. lightforcer
        +2
        5 December 2011 20: 36
        I didn’t notice any violations!

        And you are blind.
        1. petor41
          +1
          5 December 2011 22: 11
          No, I just went to the polls!
  39. Motherland
    0
    5 December 2011 10: 25
    I propose the idea of ​​who can, make a website where you can go in and choose exactly who you voted for and see what and how, although I think the Communist Party won.
    This idea came from the site "RosPil" I think we heard about corruption in the country and about government orders of officials.
    1. 0
      5 December 2011 23: 18
      Damn, what are naive, well, like children. I will create 20 accounts and vote for all of them. The second person will make 40 accounts and vote.
      Have you heard about one of the areas of information warfare called the creation of artificial public opinion?
      Well, be wiser or something
  40. 0
    5 December 2011 10: 49
    Just like from the fairy tale "SADKO" - I want a miracle! Perhaps only Russia and Kazakhstan have touched that very miracle (they have not just a name, but their own "I" in the modern world), and the rest have received some weirdos in 20 years. VIVAT RUSSIA!
  41. +12
    5 December 2011 10: 58
    I have a professional opinion that Zyuganov has a certain psychological barrier. Inferiority complex, if you like. I suspect that 1996 influenced. and experienced severe stress in the form of fear. So here. To him (the barrier), he is able to reach and quite efficiently. But no further, because as soon as a real chance arises, and with it a huge responsibility (you have to answer for the words), here at this stage the momentum drops sharply.
    Zyuganov, and now, after the election, has the super ability to disagree with the results, to rest and create a huge scandal. After all, his people, like us, sit for days on the Internet and the percentage of votes for the Communist Party is well known to them. But an attentive person probably drew attention to the reaction of Zyuganov. He became silent and humbled himself. Yes, now it’s obvious-the Communist Party leader is a fighter only in words.
    It's a shame, comrade party members. Overlooked. And Zyuganov at the time to hand over a membership card.
    These are my personal observations, but you can disagree with them.
    1. mar.tira
      +1
      5 December 2011 11: 14
      Why? I never hid about my position on Zyuganov. There will be no victory for the People’s Party while its middle peasant is at the head. He is silent that he only counted on it. Go to the State Duma and again steer and earn money. Everything !!! ! Unfortunately, he is not capable of more.
    2. ESCANDER
      +2
      5 December 2011 11: 44
      Samsebenaum
      The same opinion.
      Well, I think I need to take a membership card unnecessarily, but you can earn a well-deserved retirement pension for long service with well-deserved honors.
      And it would be nice on his personal initiative.
      1. patriot464
        -4
        5 December 2011 12: 13
        Samsebenaum

        Alas, that's right. Uncle Sue:
        - power 10
        - mana 10
        - agility 6
        - charisma -5
    3. +1
      5 December 2011 13: 42
      Quote: Samsebenum
      He became silent and humbled himself. Yes, now it’s obvious-the Communist Party leader is a fighter only in words. It's a shame, comrades party members. Overlooked. And Zyuganov at the time to hand over a membership card.
      And why should he fight — he’s not bad at all — sit in the Duma, enjoy all the relying on benefits, criticize in moderation, and put forward populist slogans! You’re not responsible for anything and you have everything, or almost everything. It seems to me that he himself is afraid that he might be really chosen. No, Zyuga is not the leader of the nation. Resentment and bewilderment gnaw — is it possible that in such a vast country as Russia, with its mighty human potential, there will not be people with sovereign thinking capable of guiding the country in the right direction and reconstruct GREAT RUSSIA? Aw .... !!!!
    4. Uncle Sam
      +2
      5 December 2011 21: 37
      but it seems to me that everything is easier - he’s used to his position, and is completely satisfied with it, and is not interested in changing anything, he doesn’t want to take responsibility, and maybe it’s even easier - he is under the strict control of the authorities.
    5. slan
      +1
      5 December 2011 22: 00
      He does not have a complex, but a phobia. Indeed, organizing a throw-in of more than 10% is not very realistic. That is, the main falsification is when processing the results from the field. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation has observers in all polling stations; it’s not so difficult to add up the results yourself, find out the scope of falsification and urge people to disobey. However, Zyuganov every time talks about the theft of voices so sour and lethargic that even the most outraged by an outright lie people are imbued with the thought that all this is such a trifle that there’s no desire to talk about it.
      1. mitrich
        -1
        5 December 2011 22: 04
        slan,
        correctly.
        1. slan
          0
          5 December 2011 22: 31
          I don’t know what these people hope for. Before, I also considered Putin a patriot and savior of the Russian Federation, I believed that he needed support in the form of a party in power. Let for the first time and consisting entirely of crooks. And where were the others to get? But years go by, corruption only flourishes and takes on more and more legalized forms, the destruction of the real independent economy is nearing completion, the indigenous population is still degrading and degenerating ...
          I have almost no illusions about our government, and there are more and more such people.
          The only terrible thing is that together with water we will inevitably spill out the child and even more anti-Russian forces will come to power on our dissatisfaction. Or maybe they need it, they simply were unable to ruin the country in the 90s and decided to act differently ..
  42. +11
    5 December 2011 11: 52


    This is a satirical caricature invented by the magazine MAXIM.
    1. petor41
      -5
      5 December 2011 14: 57
      Vadim, if you want to express some opinion, express on behalf of a private person, and not on behalf of the site administration! As I understand it, the administration should be neutral and regulate the site, and not spread the cartoons or paid well?
      1. -1
        5 December 2011 16: 15
        And how it should be seen :)
        1. petor41
          -4
          5 December 2011 16: 40
          Register on behalf of a simple visitor and do whatever you want!
          1. 0
            5 December 2011 17: 22
            and what is the difference between the site administration and you, as well as other visitors?
            1. petor41
              -7
              5 December 2011 17: 43
              A big difference! It's like the referee of the match Spartak-Zenit is a fan of Spartak !!! Is the idea clear?
              1. +2
                5 December 2011 19: 57
                First of all, I have my own point of view, just like you, and why should I be silent or register under other nicknames, where is the logic?
                1. petor41
                  -6
                  5 December 2011 20: 32
                  I already said everything to you and your colleague, I have nothing to add!
        2. -9
          5 December 2011 16: 44
          the picture is really extremely incorrect, and from a legal point of view it’s very stupid, you are not substituting yourself, but a rather interesting resource on the net
          1. +6
            5 December 2011 17: 21
            Caricature reflects our reality!
            1. petor41
              -8
              5 December 2011 17: 40
              Your reality is not mine !!!
              1. petor41
                -4
                5 December 2011 19: 19
                I want to hear from the site administration is this an independent resource or what? I think that comments can be left in order for people to freely express their thoughts, without embarrassing anyone, Do I understand correctly? I say that I voted for EP, I do not offend anyone, I do not campaign, I substantiated my position and that, after a couple of hours I was instructed 10 minuses - who put, what they put up for, no one signed up, the guy who was also minus for CP and here it turns out that our site administration supports the Communist Party (or another party, I don't know, but definitely not the United Russia Party) and openly declares this! Maybe you put me downsides, then this is a kind of censorship! You then edit the name of the site: "MILITARY REVIEW (opposition site for RUSSIA without medveputov)", so that everyone knows! Or poor people who have a different point of view than the Communist Party-power and neeb.t, you can also write your pathetic comments here? There are two camps: those who are for power, for one reason or another, and those who are against it, and as I understand it, the administration actively supports the latter! Then somehow designate it, and that is, there are still fools like me who consider the resource independent !!!!!!!!
                1. +8
                  5 December 2011 19: 50
                  Respected petor41 Your comments are minus the same site visitors as you. The administration has no technical ability to influence the rating of comments and articles. We have exactly the same rights as you. We are exactly the same as you can put a plus or a minus once. We have exactly the same as you have a rating, which varies from the actions of other visitors to the site. So there is absolutely no point in having a second account for your satisfaction.

                  At the expense of censorship, if we were the one who you think we were, then your comments on the site were no longer in sight. And you express your opinion freely.

                  At the expense of supporting or not supporting any of the administration of a political party is a private matter for everyone. And we, like you, have the right to express your opinion in the comments on the site and get a plus or a minus for it. By the way, if you hover over the tsiferku rating see how many people voted for, how many against.

                  So dear petor41 Your accusations are absolutely groundless and contrived.
                  1. petor41
                    -1
                    5 December 2011 20: 13
                    All the same, I remain in my opinion !!! The site administration should be impartial and neutral in its comments, and judging by the vote, I'm not the only one! Every day I go to your site and read articles and recommend visiting my friends, but honestly speaking, this position of the administration really upset me - take note.
                    1. ESCANDER
                      +3
                      5 December 2011 21: 05
                      Well, petor41.
                      Previously, he indicated to me what to write and what not, now I have reached the admins!
                      And the fact that the position of the administration really upset him is really better to take into account. This comrade seems to me either in the FSB or somewhere nearby.
                      1. petor41
                        -4
                        5 December 2011 22: 10
                        I personally have no complaints about you! You just write nonsense, sorry for the expression! I don’t talk about the performance characteristics of our aircraft carrier cruiser and the American aircraft carrier, because I don’t know them, but you like to speculate on topics unknown to you and it hurts me as a person who understands them! You do not know what the GRU, FSB, FS FSB, SVR, etc. are doing. and who collaborates with whom and catches spies, better not write!
                      2. ESCANDER
                        +2
                        5 December 2011 22: 25
                        petor41
                        I personally have no complaints about you either, but for assumptions like “go and sell your homeland or state property” in real life I usually hit the face.
                        Therefore, I will answer with your words - "Do not know - do not write better!".
                      3. petor41
                        -6
                        5 December 2011 22: 45
                        wink I am glad that you end my every comment with my words wink
                      4. ESCANDER
                        +1
                        5 December 2011 22: 59
                        This is because you contradict yourself.
                        If you really have to, then the opponent is better to beat him with his own weapon. So effective, don't you think?
                      5. ESCANDER
                        +2
                        5 December 2011 23: 22
                        If you are a serviceman, then I don’t think that you are special in the media (unless of course your activity is related to their “supervision”).
                        In this case, why do you teach administrators how to comment, organize the site, etc.?
                        Why are you telling other users what to write and what not?
                        Why are there so many insults in your comments regarding other users of the site?
                      6. mitrich
                        -2
                        5 December 2011 23: 28
                        ESCANDER,
                        because he is from MASKVA. In the middle of the "a". You know, only the smartest people in Russia live there. feel !
                2. Cardamom
                  0
                  5 December 2011 20: 42
                  petor41, are you an adult? What difference does it make to you or not, this is not the Online game "Get the most pluses and get a million"! We have a unique opportunity to express our opinion on this or that issue, and until the Sonderkommando Putin & FSB has tightened the screws completely, just do it.
                  And in general, there is a proposal to the site administration: Make the "minuses" also green, so as not to injure the fragile psyche of some visitors! To be: "For" comment and, let's say, "Not quite agree" ....)
                  1. petor41
                    -4
                    5 December 2011 20: 53
                    Not a minus business! If I needed pluses, I would write EP-sucks, the Communist Party-steers and would already be a colonel! In short, it doesn’t matter what cotton is all, I spoke out, who understood my words!
                3. +6
                  5 December 2011 20: 50
                  You are too dramatizing! I am glad that your reality differs from mine, but regarding the attitude towards this or that party or government, then the policy of this party is to blame for the negative attitude towards EDRU! The Minister of Defense destroyed the army, education, education, health care you know what. The word “modernization” from the lips of the "president" = collapse and degradation, but about the ubiquitous NANO, but which ordinary people cannot see, probably because it is small, I generally keep quiet. And what can you expect from "Russian president "who advertises on federal channels American iPhones, facebook and twitter? This is my opinion, I will be glad to hear yours!
                  1. Cardamom
                    0
                    5 December 2011 21: 12
                    I agree! In general, what are the elections for? We are satisfied with the life of the person at the moment, the work of the ruling party is satisfied - he went, supported the course and the people in power. If you’re dissatisfied (he’s not just in a bad mood, depression, menstruation, menopause, a hangover, there, you know, but DISSATISFIED!) - he went and chose other people, another team. As a result, reality differs, most often, in the size of the salary and the degree of accommodation in life.
                  2. petor41
                    -3
                    5 December 2011 22: 05
                    I have repeatedly expressed my opinion! I believe that the coming to power of a new political force in the next 5-10 years will ruin the country, a new redistribution of property, reassignment, a new round of reforms, etc. will begin. The country needs stability! I believe that there is a positive trend, although not big, there are kickbacks and back and forth! There are a lot of questions to the authorities, but it will not be better if others come. I am an active serviceman and I know firsthand about the armed forces and the way of life of military personnel! More terrible is Serdyukov, Fursenko and their reforms - a loss of stability! As soon as the boat rolls and the people begin to worry very much, the end of everything! And it will be too late to argue Well done United Russia or villains, we will turn into IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN! Therefore, one must weigh everything a hundred times before drawing conclusions! It's my opinion!
                    1. +1
                      5 December 2011 22: 17
                      On this I agree with you - stability is a very important thing for the country, but degradation in economic, social, cultural, etc. plan is unacceptable! And also the impunity of the authorities and the absence of opposition is also very harmful to "democratic" transformations and reforms! if the ruling party would do at least something for ordinary people and for the real development of the country, then I would vote for it with great pleasure. and in a situation when the president is an empty space and really does not decide anything, then why is he needed at all and why all this clownery with elections - when in fact there is NO choice !?
                      1. +2
                        5 December 2011 22: 22
                        Can you name at least one significant achievement of modern Russia, which I, as a citizen, can be proud of?
                      2. -1
                        5 December 2011 23: 31
                        You will look around: Greece is about to default, poor Greeks will soon learn what non-payment of pensions and wages is, what hyperinflation is (do you remember that yourself?), An increase in the retirement age, lower wages, higher taxes, cancellation of paid vacations, etc. .d. -all this awaits Italians, Spaniards, Portuguese. There are very serious problems in the USA (who are interested: http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/4227) which have not yet broken through only thanks to the "policy of quantitative easing" - printing money. And look at the macroeconomic indicators of our country. Isn't it a result?
                      3. slan
                        0
                        5 December 2011 23: 39
                        Eccentric man))) Yes, the fact that they have a crisis, we have achievements closenanoeconomics)) What will happen to Greece if oil cheaper cheaper than $ 20? And it will become cheaper as soon as the USA wants it! And what will happen to the Russian Federation? The logical conclusion of everything that Gorbachev began and continues Putin.
                      4. mitrich
                        -1
                        5 December 2011 23: 46
                        slan,
                        Simplify. In this case, consider that the United States already wants the barrel to cost less than $ 20. These things are not as simple as you might think.
                      5. slan
                        +1
                        5 December 2011 23: 59
                        Yes, no, it’s still easier actually. They control this market, and any market is highly susceptible to manipulation. Or do you seriously think that the market price reflects the real balance of supply and demand? Another question is that now the half-wave of high prices, they derive dividends from this. Yes, and in the Middle East there is a redistribution ..
                        Do you really think that the United States benefits from low oil prices, given that they are essentially selling it to themselves? All the money that puppet sheikhs "earn" with a few exceptions in the form of Maybachs and golden toilets are pouring into the American economy in a well-organized stream. And Russian petrodollars, by the way, go there mostly.
                      6. mitrich
                        0
                        6 December 2011 00: 16
                        slan,
                        I treat you well, but do not humiliate yourself with such a primitive knowledge of economics. You yourself are not an economist, but what you write, sorry, but the garbage is complete. I will be glad to explain to you what you are wrong with, but I go to bed. Next time.
                      7. slan
                        +1
                        6 December 2011 00: 27
                        Yes, I am reasoning reasoning. The cost of oil production in the Middle East is below the dollar, production volumes can be easily increased many times over in the shortest possible time, there is no force capable of withstanding this in the region. The only limitation is transportation.
                        Well, stupidly, practice suggests that oil was already cheaper than water.
                      8. 0
                        6 December 2011 02: 25
                        You write in vain about the ease of increasing production volumes, this is completely wrong. Here listen to the professionals: http://www.vestifinance.ru/videos/787
                      9. 0
                        6 December 2011 02: 17
                        Well, at least not. wink
                        This mythical horror story is repeated by so many. I'm not saying that oil prices really reflect the supply / demand balance, they are naturally somewhat speculatively overpriced, but they never depend on the US hotels. Otherwise, they would have collapsed a long time ago and we would have collected mushrooms and roots a long time ago, but this is not so. Or do you think oil prices are at the mercy of America? Laughter and more. Think about it yourself.
                        All the more insistently there is talk of sanctions against Iranian oil, and this is a rise in prices of up to $ 200 or more (which, however, is nothing good for the global economy)

                        It began not Gorbachev, but the Soviet gene. secretaries, when as a result of the mediocre agrarian policy of the USSR since 1963 he was forced to buy food abroad and pay for it with petrodollars. And in 1986, the price fell almost 4 times to $ 11 and that’s all ... Gorbachev was milling around the world in search of money, which we ate at that time, and we gave money naturally under political conditions. So thank you CPSU!

                        And by the way, in 2008 the price fell 4 times, so what? Thanks to the stabilization fund, we managed with little blood, unlike Europe.
                      10. slan
                        +2
                        6 December 2011 23: 19
                        kos, that’s because you turn out to be laughing at yourself. Themselves google that a little over a dozen years ago, oil was worth $ 10
                        What has changed since then? Missing mining capacity? Yes, the Asian region is connected to consumption, but there are also inverse factors - biofuel, gas production growth.
                        Gorbachev, you say, rushed about?)) So Gorbachev had a superpower with a serious economy. Yes, they bought toothpaste and there were no tampaks. But now Putin has no real industry other than tampaks. That's who is running in. Only it’s more likely not him, but you and I don’t run too far, but we will bend.
                        4 times fell and nothing, say? Google how long it fell and for how long?
                        And if (2008) you call it nothing, then what then what? Let me guess, are you a pensioner or a civil servant? Because in 2008, the entire real economy of the Russian Federation simply collapsed along with salaries. And you didn't know?)) And you did not go to car dealerships in 2008 when everything was in line and in 2009 when managers were still ready to suck for the same cars but at a price in dollar terms 1.5 times less? Amused- "and nothing"))
                        So who holds the price of oil, OPEC or something, or Putin himself?
                        ps And better read the old resumes for 2008 when a specialist in the province asked 120 thousand of the same specialist, but for 2010, but with claims of 30 rubles. And this still needs to be taken into account the depreciation of the ruble. Where in the EU what was that like?
                        There was nothing)) So "nothing" was just just communist China, in which growth did not stop.
                      11. -1
                        7 December 2011 00: 34
                        Here you are an interesting person. I suggest you get acquainted with the opinions of people who at times more than you and me understand in this matter, but for you your personal opinion is more significant. So be it.
                        Here's another topic: http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/4331

                        Since then, the demand for oil has changed, and significantly.

                        Quote: slan
                        Gorbachev, you say, rushed about?)) So Gorbachev had a superpower with a serious economy. Yes, they bought toothpaste and there were no tampaks.
                        Yeah, and we had our own grain. wink It looks like a mantra.

                        Yes, with a serious economy and chronic dependence on imports, in particular, grain, which the USSR bought for petrodollars.

                        Quote: slan
                        And if (2008) you call it nothing, then what then?

                        And "what" is when, because of the 4-fold drop in oil prices in the country, there is nothing to eat, when the leadership has to sell the interests of their state for loans, which in the end is falling apart. Or hyperinflation of 98 g. This is what I call "what", but the fact that the demand for cars has fallen (yeah, essential things) is natural in the conditions in which the whole world finds itself.
                        In addition, everything is known by comparison. Just look at the pressing problems of the Euro zone and ours. That's where the oil painting is.

                        Quote: slan
                        But now Putin has no real industry other than tampaks.

                        Another mantra. Well enough already or like it?
                        An interesting site, I advise everyone: http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/
                        And in particular about the lack of industry.
                        http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/?search=%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D
                        0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0

                        OPEC holds prices, not America.

                        By the way, you didn’t guess, I’m an automated control system engineer working at a factory.
                      12. +1
                        6 December 2011 00: 04
                        Where to look, show?
                      13. 0
                        6 December 2011 02: 20
                        Rosstat look. In general, the global economy at least take an interest.
                      14. petor41
                        +2
                        5 December 2011 22: 40
                        I understand your position, it has a rational kernel! I don’t know for the president and I don’t keep statistics for the whole country! Judging by myself and my family! We do not starve-once, we have our own apartment-two (including one received on a military mortgage, which appeared under the current government), I go through a medical examination once a year, I get three free medical assistance (although I rarely get sick, I go in for sports), a car there are four (albeit a right-handed one and not new), there’s five money to pay for the Internet and other nice little things, I got six higher education for free, etc.! There are a lot of negative points, I will not list! Not everything is as bad as it seems! A simple example, a new field uniform — I wear it every day and wear the old one and I can compare it and I like the new one more, and my colleagues too! But when they discussed it on your site, such a howl rose that everything was shitty, but what for it is needed, etc., although those who spoke out did not even wear this uniform! And everyone on the site supported this negative! Why? After all, the form is really better than the old! And so everywhere, one negative, negative, negative, the situation is escalating! The question is, who needs this? I think this is only necessary for the enemies of Russia, which through the media, the Internet influence public opinion! And the mood of the people is such that a lot is not necessary! Look at the positive articles on your site! No more than a dozen comments go to them! If you lowered a new ship, they will write two comments that this is good and three comments that we would need more! And for the negative articles, a hundred comments (for example, this is already more than 200)! We ourselves are rocking the boat on which we are sailing! Okay, I won’t write anymore, otherwise I’ll leave for the minus rating soon! Today I went up from the foreman to the lieutenant and went down again wink
                      15. ESCANDER
                        -1
                        5 December 2011 23: 30
                        Bad is the soldier who does not want to become a general.
                        Be more restrained and respect a different point of view. You look - and people will stretch.
                      16. +2
                        5 December 2011 23: 51
                        I honestly do not worry about myself personally, I also have a refrigerator, it has food, an apartment, work, etc. but there is no feeling that I live in a great country, there is no confidence that my children will receive an education, no worse than what I received during the Soviet era, and the most incomprehensible for me is that I do not see anything of what they say through federal channels, including with the NANO prefix, etc. Where is all this wealth, where is all this former power, where are the great discoveries and achievements? And "bread and circuses" is small, and in my opinion, not only you should have it, but even if even 20-30% of the population, but the majority should have it! There are very rich and there are beggars, and unfortunately most of them!
                      17. petor41
                        0
                        6 December 2011 14: 15
                        Everyone has different feelings! Just someone does not want to see anything good, although it is! The current leaders are only 11 years in power, and you already want great discoveries! I don’t know about you, but I am very proud that I am a citizen of RUSSIA when I hear the news:
                        - that Russia launched glonas and already leading companies release smartphones with it;
                        - that RUSSIA is the second in the world in arms export!
                        - that Fedor Emelianenko flunked another Americanos!
                        - that group "A" of the TsSN FSB of the Russian Federation took first place in the world championship among special units!
                        - that we are the world hockey champions of 2008 and 2009!
                        - that the 2014 Olympic Games will be held here!
                        - that KAMAZ are the best in Dakar!
                        - etc. etc.
                        I don’t know when former power and wealth will return to us, but with such moods I’m sure that I’ll never!
                      18. petor41
                        -3
                        6 December 2011 15: 53
                        And I'm not worried about myself! But to judge whether it is good in the country or bad you will be based on your own feelings and moods, whether you and your family live well! If you look at the street there, every 5 cars costs 1 million rubles, every 10 cars costs 5 million rubles, and I’m very sure that the owners of these cars live very well, but for some reason it’s not easier for me and I think you too!
                      19. +1
                        7 December 2011 19: 03
                        about 70% of these cars were bought on credit at crazy interest rates and in fact belong to creditor banks. Over the years, people have been successfully taught to live in debt, from here and an increase in purchasing power (take a closer look in the store, who pays with what, you will see a bunch of "plastic", where debits are minuscule.) People think that they started to live well, but in fact they have as they want am
                    2. strelok-07
                      +5
                      5 December 2011 23: 14
                      It’s strange. And we have entire military towns against the EP voted. They that defeatists in your opinion? No, you’re an opportunist. Warm, satisfying and do not need to do anything.
                      1. Cardamom
                        +2
                        5 December 2011 23: 42
                        The same story. Simple contract soldiers, 1,2 rank captains with whom he spoke - against United Russia, mainly because of reforms in the army. Although, to be honest, in our military, at least it’s a sin to complain to the military. Especially if they increase it - it's just fantastic! 2-3 times higher than civilians get! Ordinary people, apparently, are not needed by the state .... I think all this has been done not so much to raise the prestige of the army, but to break up the population into castes and divide society.
                        PS The form is new, they say nothing, only when walking rustles loudly.
            2. -2
              6 December 2011 09: 34
              you caught Gryzlov by the hand, if so, why didn’t you go to court, if not, then this is slander and you yourself know that.
              I personally have not seen this, and even if it happens it is not the norm, but an exception
  43. Sobibor
    +2
    5 December 2011 12: 32
    Tell me - citizens of Russia, do you believe in the election results?
    1. patriot464
      0
      5 December 2011 12: 41
      Completing the entire logical chain, I’ll say - do not wait, you bastards.
    2. -8
      5 December 2011 13: 08
      Quote: Sobibor
      Tell me - citizens of Russia, do you believe in the election results?

      Yes
      1. -5
        5 December 2011 16: 35
        this is democracy, zvizdets
        who is brave, tell me who and for what zamususnov? smile
        1. strelok-07
          -1
          6 December 2011 23: 25
          And who is there to be afraid of? I set you minus for your naivety. There are probably a lot of central TV channels you watch and do not go outside. Take a break from the box, take a walk around the city, or where you live there, chat with ordinary people. I do not promise instant insight, but you will rediscover much for yourself.
          1. -1
            7 December 2011 07: 52
            perfectly,
            I don’t always have time to watch TV, because there is a lot of work, I can’t walk around the nearest village in a kilometer, I live on a farm, but optics are stretched out to the house thanks to her and I communicate when problems arise (of a different nature) I call the answer to the duty officer the regional government and what’s most interesting is responding to calls.
            so don’t need me for naivety, I’m an adult and a pretty valuable person
      2. lightforcer
        +2
        5 December 2011 20: 13
        Joked or what?
        1. Tyumen
          +2
          7 December 2011 00: 43
          Quote: lightforcer
          Joked or what?

          Worse. He is serious.
    3. dim
      dim
      0
      5 December 2011 14: 15
      no, I think a lot needs to be re-read
    4. +1
      5 December 2011 14: 24
      More likely no than yes.
    5. petor41
      -12
      5 December 2011 14: 58
      Quote: Sobibor
      Tell me - citizens of Russia, do you believe in the election results?


      YES
      1. Uncle Sam
        +5
        5 December 2011 21: 41
        No, I don’t believe it, and there are specific reasons for this that are not related to what I read on the site. I simply can’t prove my facts, but they are the same in essence as what has already been discussed.
      2. 0
        7 December 2011 18: 54
        It seems that you believe the same in Santa Claus wink In vain !!! how can you believe the authorities, who openly say - there were stuffing and other violations, and calmly releases it on the brakes (not the first time)
    6. -4
      5 December 2011 19: 09
      I still wonder what ... plus or minus this thread?
      a specific question was asked, specific answers were given to it
      1. petor41
        -10
        5 December 2011 19: 42
        It is useless to find out, I do not think that these are real users of the site, most likely paid trolls!
        1. +5
          5 December 2011 21: 53
          most likely paid trolls
          for such a statement you will definitely be harshly minded, here they do not like how you said "trolls"
      2. slan
        +4
        5 December 2011 22: 53
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        which ... plus or minus

        Why are you reacting so painfully? Do you think other drawbacks are few?
        Not everyone wants to "shit" with you in comments, proving the obvious to themselves, and they simply express their position as a minus. Well, for the unfair advantages for oneself, for some reason, none of the appraised ones was indignant. Why is it strange?
        1. +2
          6 December 2011 09: 27
          Well, first of all, do not fight and defend the point of view, these are two different things, otherwise it is not clear what those who are simply minus doing here, because for this you need to register as well.
          and the question is not in grades, we are not at school, I am really interested in expressing my opinion and hearing something else, but a minus without explanations, and even not in the sense of this type of "the fool himself"
    7. +3
      5 December 2011 21: 43
      Personally, I do not have a single friend who voted for the EP and my friends also do not have those who voted for her after all?
    8. 0
      5 December 2011 23: 33
      I believe. And Zyuganov believes both Mironov and Zhirinovsky. Why don’t you believe your leaders? Or are they selling power?
      1. +5
        6 December 2011 00: 10
        They are not my leaders, I personally do not consider either Zhirinovsky or Zyuganov a leader, but I am for at least some kind of opposition, and for what the authorities would remember about their citizens.
        1. Tyumen
          -1
          7 December 2011 00: 48
          Quote: fantast
          but I am for at least some opposition, and for the fact that the authorities would remember about their citizens.


          Do you think the government remembers its citizens only from the cry of Zhirinovsky?
      2. +2
        9 December 2011 15: 00
        Who told you that party leaders believe?
        The Communist Party collects materials for ships. Alas, we have no other way of influence. There are protests, it's just that like everything else is hushed up. Local administrations strongly oppose the organization of opposition rallies. And to bring people to unauthorized rallies now is to substitute the unarmed for riot police, for the sake of higher interest rates. On December 18, in 12.00 in Moscow, a Communist Party protest rally from Pushkinskaya to Lubyanka Square will take place in connection with unprecedented rigging of election results and numerous arrests of civil activists
        You can’t imagine how much effort was spent on the ground to achieve even such a result. How many people plowed for free, not expecting anything for themselves, simply because the people asked - bring us agitation. Other parties seem to have let it go. Even their results are a consequence of our work, and not of their observers. At least those that I came across. There were, but few, LDPR observers who really tried to help. About CP-tsev did not hear this.
  44. patriot464
    -5
    5 December 2011 12: 43
    Quote: Sobibor
    Tell me - citizens of Russia, do you believe in the election results?


    Go straight to the point. Do not wait, you bastards.
  45. Nechai
    +1
    5 December 2011 13: 04
    Samsebenaum,
    Communist Party leader fighter only in words.]

    Absolutely right. And he is not the only one there (judging by his regional organization) - fosterlings of stagnation, protégés of Gorbi & K. And for the watered elite, the victory may turn out to be a feast! The civic activity of the society is growing, here on the appearance at the huts. The "winners" were forced to make a lot of promises. And the people will have to "throw" - where to go then. That will cause an even greater surge in the activity of "cattle" - "Don't be dashing, while it is quiet!"
    1. -6
      5 December 2011 16: 34
      Quote: Nechai
      The civic activism of society is growing, here by appearance at the huts.

      eeeeee
      60% do you consider activity? !!!!!!!!
  46. kav8206
    -5
    5 December 2011 14: 38
    Sobibor,
    Yes
  47. +6
    5 December 2011 15: 55
    To hold elections with EDRO is like playing cards with a sharpie.
  48. Nechai
    -1
    5 December 2011 16: 05
    Grenader,
    To hold elections with EDRO is like playing cards with a sharpie.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw-5y9fy4zU&feature=youtu.be
    - From the God of Bulk.
    1. -5
      5 December 2011 16: 33
      question number one for which batch should these fakes go
      the question is the number of Dwan vskidka in that pack (by the way it’s obscure why) it was from the strength of sheets 20, do you think this can do the weather? !!!!!
  49. zavesa01
    +4
    5 December 2011 16: 10
    Gentlemen many voted FOR ANY PARTY leash would not have got the vote EP. NO ONE doubted that they would secure a victory for themselves.
    1. -6
      5 December 2011 16: 26
      and for whom did you personally vote? wink
  50. Perseus
    +5
    5 December 2011 16: 32
    there are people who always vote for power, like figs like not nravitsya. My friend to the question "why did you vote for the United Russia" answered - well, anyway, they will win, so I am for them. I was in ah * e, that's half of the country and vote. Although, to be honest, we do not have a strong opposition, everyone pulls the blanket over himself. Zhirinovsky plays the defender of the Russians, not considering that probably 40% of families in Russia consist of representatives of different nationalities. Zyuganov frankly makes comparisons with the Soviet regime, the Soviets did it, the Soviets did it, let him say what needs to be done now. Moreover, there are only pensioners in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, now (probably even fortunately) you cannot force young men and women to pray for Lenin, and for Marx and Engels, who, by the way, hated Russia.
    1. +1
      9 December 2011 15: 06
      Quote: Persey
      Moreover, there are only pensioners in the Communist Party, now

      You are mistaken. Young people are arriving now. We do not have political education, as it was in Soviet times, but mostly literate guys come. Do not compare with Sveta from Ivanovo.
  51. Nechai
    +3
    5 December 2011 17: 14
    Vasilenko Vladimir,
    Do you think the weather can do this?!

    No, of course not. The chairman of the educational commission himself needs this - to bend over before the curator - that’s what a hero I am! The main falsity occurs, in my opinion, at the stage of transfer and calculation of results in district, city, etc. election committees/remember, after the election of the EBN in 96, ALL ballots were demanded to be taken to Moscow. Where they were immediately, as they arrived, DESTROYED... And they ended up in dust and smoke. And how will they close up the electricity? voting, and even on the Internet, the crap will come... But what about the secret choice. This is what power provides./ Ideally, if we use information. technology - then the voter must receive a “receipt” indicating: who, where, when (indicating the exact time), for whom he voted and WHICH ACCOUNT IS HIS CHOICE REGISTERED for this type (in the electoral district - this is not difficult to do). And with this “ticket”, since the chosen one is playing tricks, man. goes to the judge and WITHDRAWS HIS vote for this scoundrel. And then the witnesses - they voted and that’s it - the goods cannot be returned or exchanged! Wherever Onishchenko looks, it is a direct violation of the law on the protection of consumer rights!/ wink
  52. wesmann
    +1
    5 December 2011 17: 35
    Stop moaning! The main backbone has been broken, the Party of Jews and Thieves. They don’t have a constitutional majority! The RA! Soon the fairy tale will tell, but the deed won’t be done soon.
    Despite the falsifications, they got the hell out of it. It's a bad start. People will look at what they were able to do with their votes, maybe zombies will get up from their couches at the next elections?
    This is our World, this is our Civilization, this is our Rus', and it is not for sale. We are the children of our gods, in the image and likeness.
    Glory to Rus', glory to our Family!
    1. +1
      5 December 2011 21: 21
      Unfortunately, they have the majority.
      1. lokdok
        +1
        6 December 2011 09: 57
        Fortunately, the country will develop and the Duma will pass laws, and not engage in political chatter.
    2. Uncle Sam
      +1
      6 December 2011 17: 58
      I think that the next elections, in which Putin plans to elect himself, will be tougher.
  53. arhipelag
    +1
    5 December 2011 17: 37
    Have you seen the preliminary results of the CEC voting? for Chechnya (universal 99.4%) and Dagestan (universal 91%) smile in Tyva another 85% for edro. And most of all for komunyak in Novosibirsk 30.2%.
    It’s strange, but in the Jewish autonomy there are only 48% per unit, apparently there are no Jews left there at all wink
    1. mar.tira
      +1
      5 December 2011 17: 43
      The strange thing is that where human blood is shed the most, United Russia won! So the gentlemen of the United Russia, when they flood the country with blood, then they will have a “guaranteed” majority
      1. wesmann
        0
        5 December 2011 18: 27
        This is how they live on blood. Parasites.
        http://slovari.yandex.ru/~%D0%BA%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B8/%D0%91%D0%A1%D0%AD/%D0%
        9F%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8B/
    2. wesmann
      0
      5 December 2011 18: 17
      Bearded anenegdot;
      - Forgive us! We are leaving this country, but we don’t know where to go, and where should we go?
      Gusskies say, it’s good where we are not!
      -Where are there no Jews? Write, Jewish Autonomous Region.
  54. -3
    5 December 2011 19: 12
    smiled, someone went through the discussion and downvoted everyone lol
    1. slan
      +1
      6 December 2011 23: 48
      Therefore, he did not like the very fact of the discussion)
  55. +1
    5 December 2011 19: 14
    Quote: wesmann
    This is our World, this is our Civilization, this is our Rus', and it is not for sale. We are the children of our gods, in the image and likeness. Glory to Rus', glory to our Family!

    The cool “patriot” of Russia actually lives in Germany. Our grandfathers buried your world and supermen (it slips through you) at 45!
    1. wesmann
      0
      6 December 2011 01: 50
      I still don’t understand where the connection is between your words? Please, don’t be stupid.
  56. +1
    5 December 2011 20: 05
    Our Communist Party of the Russian Federation received about 75%... But as everyone understands, this is still preliminary, in any case they lowered it...
  57. +2
    5 December 2011 20: 33
    Guys, it’s time to persecute people for their beliefs...
    And although I am not a supporter of United Russia, I will support Vasilenko regarding the disadvantages.
    Believe in God or the devil, this is your faith and that means you have reasons for this. Is not it?
    Downvote for anything, but to the point, and don’t touch your beliefs!!!
    1. +1
      5 December 2011 21: 20
      Guys, it’s time to persecute people for their beliefs...

      Well, why, according to Article 159, Part 4, that’s the thing, especially for deceiving the country’s population... This already smacks of treason from the very beginning...
      1. +1
        5 December 2011 21: 42
        decipher it, not everyone knows the Criminal Code by heart, but the internet is too lazy to dig around
        1. +1
          5 December 2011 22: 53
          Actually, Google rules...
          Article 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Fraud
          part 4. Fraud committed by an organized group or on an especially large scale, -
          shall be punishable by imprisonment for a term of up to ten years with or without a fine in the amount of up to one million rubles or in the amount of the wages or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to three years.
  58. Azov
    +2
    5 December 2011 20: 50
    Voted for the Communist Party
    1. 0
      5 December 2011 21: 22
      I voted the same way, we have 75% in advance...
  59. +1
    5 December 2011 21: 50
    extremely funny downvote, just wondering if someone has the courage to say I downvoted for my beliefs, or at least explain what I’m doing wrong
    1. +1
      5 December 2011 22: 00
      Don’t take it to heart, downvoting means they have the opposite point of view! take it easy!
      1. ESCANDER
        0
        5 December 2011 22: 08
        That's right. You are not the only one who is being abused. Here everyone gets it regularly, regardless of their titles and beliefs.
    2. wesmann
      +1
      6 December 2011 12: 50
      Don’t worry so much, you have a plus!, even a few +++++!
  60. mitrich
    +1
    5 December 2011 22: 02
    You don’t have to go to the presidential elections - I can already predict for everyone with 100% accuracy who will win.
    And in general, since we are all cormorants, why is this Duma even needed? Why spend money on its maintenance? Maintain decorum?
    And why elections? A waste of time.

    Yes, by the way, gentlemen, communists, Zyuganov has shown himself to be a complete b-m-m-o. You need to change it, change it...
    1. -1
      5 December 2011 22: 41
      Yes, by the way, gentlemen, communists, Zyuganov has shown himself to be a complete b-m-m-o. You need to change it, change it...

      I did not vote for Zyuganov, but for the party that put forward the program...
      1. mitrich
        +2
        5 December 2011 22: 59
        PSih2097,
        You know, I agree with the thought I heard yesterday. The point is that now is the time for leaders, not programs.
        And Zyuganov was whipped on the cheeks, and he was glad! Why, as much as 20%, almost 100 seats in the Duma... Again, you can babble for 5 years, criticize and not answer for anything. W-he's not a fighter. I shouldn't have voted for you yesterday.
        1. 0
          5 December 2011 23: 56
          I also agree, we need a leader, a patriot of Russia, and the people will follow him! I recommend watching this: Messiah for Russia I personally was interested to hear the thoughts voiced in this film
          1. 0
            6 December 2011 07: 13
            The point is that now is the time for leaders, not programs.

            I also agree, we need a leader, a patriot of Russia, and the people will follow him!

            Leaders will emerge in the spring... But now there was a party... Don’t confuse the terms...
          2. Tyumen
            -1
            7 December 2011 00: 55
            Quote: fantast
            we need a leader, a patriot of Russia,


            That's what they kind of call themselves.
  61. +3
    5 December 2011 22: 36
    The main thing is not how to vote, but the main thing is how to count the votes. Because the sum %% does not converge to 100, as for example, judging by the photograph of the TV screen on the Rossiya 24 channel in the Rostov region, in the GAS Elections computer program the coefficients for each party were already adjusted in advance and personally. But, apparently, the customers of the program (I won’t say which party, let everyone guess for themselves) and the programmers did not take into account. Such a disgrace!!!! This is how our main legislative body of the country was formed....
  62. Yurk
    +4
    5 December 2011 22: 42
    To be honest, when Prokhorov appeared and started speaking intelligently, I liked him. I'm not a moneybag or an entrepreneur. But he spoke quite convincingly. I even started to think about voting for him, that is. for the right.
    But, obviously, those sitting up there are not fools either! After 3-4 days, Prokhorov was simply quickly “left”!
    It seems to me that this was done not only by members of the right-wing party!...
    I voted in the elections not for the right, but against United Russia!
    About the pros and cons. I put both pros and cons based on what I read.
    So, if you don’t find anyone else who put minuses, consider that I did it!
    Welcome to downvote me!
    1. mitrich
      +1
      5 December 2011 22: 51
      Yurk,
      my dear colleague, I ask you to take into account that saying and doing are not the same thing. I won’t say anything about Norilsk Nickel - I didn’t work there. But I can already see what this unfortunate entrepreneur did with biathlon. Everything this redneck touches dies instantly, apparently. Every business requires a professional, even destruction needs to be done skillfully, don’t you agree? And what is Prokhorov’s professional? So far I have seen one achievement: fucking girls in Courchevel (France)...
      1. Yurk
        +1
        6 December 2011 00: 13
        Mitrich! I won’t say anything about biathlon because I don’t know. And about everything that dies too. I haven’t been to Norilsk Nickel either.
        And it seems to me that in Russia, many things have died, with the exception of Gazprom and oil production. Or should we also count this among Prokhorov’s merits?
        Or did Abramovich, Vekselberg, Berezovsky and the like create something special here?
        Well, Prokhorov spoke quite well, you will agree, and on topic. Or do you think that it was really his fellow party members who quickly removed him?
        As for the women, I didn’t hold a candle, I don’t know....
        And in our country, as I understand it, the entire Higher Elite regularly went to Courchevel to celebrate, and, I hope, all only with their wives!
        And in general, our elite, judging by press publications, have all had their own mansions for a long time, and not only in Courchevel...
        Now we are building our own Courchevel in Sochi. This summer I was in Sochi, and you know why they blocked the Adler-Krasnaya Polyana highway there, so that the motorcade of Medvedev’s son could pass to Krasnaya Polyana. Do you know why? - Celebrate birthday! And this is not gossip!...
    2. -2
      6 December 2011 09: 17
      Quote: Yurk
      Prokhorov appeared and started talking intelligently, I liked him

      thank God they left, what is the point of it, in the new version of the EBN, take as much sovereignty as you can?
      Autonomy for Kaliningrad, etc.
      1. Yurk
        +2
        6 December 2011 13: 19
        Exactly!
        One was simply imprisoned...
        The other one was simply killed in prison...
        third...they just “left”...
        The path is clear under the leadership of our beloved Abramovichs and Vekselbergs!
        And I simply won’t answer you personally, Vladimir Vasilenko!
        I won’t even downvote you, it’s not worth it...!
        I looked at your comments here on the thread...
        How can I express it culturally?...
        Here you are jumping and jumping from one to another.
        Are you so zealously defending your United Russia members!?
        But not a single thought from you personally, at least some!
        I understand, there is not enough time.....!!!!
    3. Tyumen
      +1
      7 December 2011 00: 59
      Quote: Yurk
      I even started to think about voting for him


      Do you miss the 10-hour workday? A hundred years ago it was the other way around.
  63. strelok-07
    +1
    5 December 2011 23: 01
    Official results of polling in the Kaliningrad region. Based on the results of processing 100% of the ballots, United Russia received the most votes in the regional districts, and the remaining parties received the most votes in Kaliningrad. Overall, United Russia gained 37,07%, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - 25,54%, the LDPR - 14,10%, A Just Russia - 13,26%, Yabloko - 5,50%, Patriots of Russia - 2,23 %, “Right Cause” - 0,68%.
    It is noteworthy that in Kaliningrad, in terms of the number of votes, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation gained 32,44% in the Leningrad region, 30,29% in the Moskovsky region and 30,86% in the Central region. We can whenever we want!!!
  64. +2
    5 December 2011 23: 15
    Here you go! Protest rallies took place in Moscow and St. Petersburg... Thousands of people took to the streets... They finished the game...
    But this is completely in vain.
    "Medvedev will take action against the governors of the regions where United Russia has failed."
    1. slan
      0
      5 December 2011 23: 26
      But young people today are very politically active and are never for United Russia.
      1. lokdok
        0
        6 December 2011 09: 49
        But young people today are very politically active and are never for United Russia.

        But how do you know that? No need to speak for everyone
        1. slan
          0
          7 December 2011 00: 59
          Relative to other age groups, of course. From the playpen, for example, one can judge how he is forced to communicate with teenagers. And if you’re in trouble, then why are you sticking out? Thank God, these are not the majority.
  65. Nechai
    0
    5 December 2011 23: 34
    arhipelag
    there are no Jews left there at all

    Anecdote from the 80s: There are TWO Jews left in Birodibzhan. There is only one in the regional committee - the first secretary. And at the railway station there is one who sells ice cream.
    1. arhipelag
      +1
      6 December 2011 12: 54
      Well, it’s time to rename it)) this is a Jewish autonomy where there are no Jews))
  66. 0
    6 December 2011 01: 08
    A little humor wouldn't hurt:
  67. +2
    6 December 2011 03: 30
    A little humor wouldn't hurt:

    Of course, the fact that even the preliminary election results are false is clear to anyone, even the average person. The conduct of the elections itself is so organized that any numbers can be shown at any time. Of course it's just funny.

    Yesterday at 23-00 on TV Vesti Russia 24 the data of the results of checking the ballots was shown: as they reported, 17,7% of the votes were processed and displayed on the screen about 6-7 million votes. Of these: 3,0 million people made up 45,0% of the votes for United Russia, 1,8 million people made up 19,0% of the votes of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, 1,4 million people made up 11,0% of the LDPR. Well, this is complete nonsense. Is it even possible to show such data? According to Gorstat data, Russia has a population of 140 million. And if we assume: 80 percent according to the lists approved for voting by Russians, then this is 112 million, which should be according to the lists for which ballots should be issued. Where is the data from the Russian State Statistics Service?

    1. How many voters are actually registered? 2. How many people took part in the voting? This should be given for the regions, republics and autonomies that are part of Russia. And the question is, where are these results? And they are not there. Why not? And therefore, gentlemen, there was no turnout as such for the elections, as Vesti indicated - 50,4 percent. Most likely, this figure, the number of people who turned out for the elections, did not even reach 40,0 percent. Therefore, V. Putin simply gave instructions to show this figure as 50,4 percent. Otherwise, the elections would have to be declared invalid. Which is what it currently is. Who, you ask, made up 3,0 million votes for United Russia? Of course. Moscow, its leaders in the Kremlin, ministries, and departments. Why did they vote for them: workers with a meager salary of 5 thousand rubles, peasants who were dying of hunger, scientists, students, no, no one voted for them.

    The actual distribution of votes most likely did not work out in favor of United Russia. And the places were distributed as follows: 1. the place was taken by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the 2nd place was taken by the LDPR, the 3rd place was possibly taken by United Russia. Of course, they will not show such results to anyone. The fact that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation won is considered a disgrace for them, and their end, their death. And they have already crawled out onto the screens, the leaders of United Russia, and thank everyone for their support, and rejoice at their fake victory. Posting falsified results on the screen. Which seems to be non-negotiable. Of course, there is no smell of democracy in such elections.

    The scenario of the elections held in Belarus is repeated. When voting for A. Lukashenko. It is necessary to check the results, dear representatives of the press, not at the exit, by asking people who voted for whom. This is complete nonsense. Conduct similar surveys. Anyone can simply be lying. And judge the elections based on these answers, much less give hasty results and conclusions. First of all, it is not ethical to stop people on their way out and interview them. We need to work with documents. With sheets of paper indicating who voted for whom.

    So go, party leaders yourself, everyone to your polling stations and check the correspondence of the data with the actual arrival of people at the polling stations. And with the actual voting results. And give a report in terms of regions, republics and autonomies, and for Russia as a whole. Then the elections will be fair. And then one, two, three and kings. No, that’s not how it’s done, gentlemen. Democracy must be complete. It’s not that democracy is partial, only for United Russia! And if, upon verification, it turns out that less than 50 percent turned out for the elections. The elections must be declared invalid. And set a new deadline for holding repeat elections. Good luck Russia.

    Source: newsland.ru
  68. +6
    6 December 2011 03: 31
    Of course, the fact that even the preliminary election results are false is clear to anyone, even the average person. The conduct of the elections itself is so organized that any numbers can be shown at any time. Of course it's just funny.

    Yesterday at 23-00 on TV Vesti Russia 24 the data of the results of checking the ballots was shown: as they reported, 17,7% of the votes were processed and displayed on the screen about 6-7 million votes. Of these: 3,0 million people made up 45,0% of the votes for United Russia, 1,8 million people made up 19,0% of the votes of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, 1,4 million people made up 11,0% of the LDPR. Well, this is complete nonsense. Is it even possible to show such data? According to Gorstat data, Russia has a population of 140 million. And if we assume: 80 percent according to the lists approved for voting by Russians, then this is 112 million, which should be according to the lists for which ballots should be issued. Where is the data from the Russian State Statistics Service?

    1. How many voters are actually registered? 2. How many people took part in the voting? This should be given for the regions, republics and autonomies that are part of Russia. And the question is, where are these results? And they are not there. Why not? And therefore, gentlemen, there was no turnout as such for the elections, as Vesti indicated - 50,4 percent. Most likely, this figure, the number of people who turned out for the elections, did not even reach 40,0 percent. Therefore, V. Putin simply gave instructions to show this figure as 50,4 percent. Otherwise, the elections would have to be declared invalid. Which is what it currently is. Who, you ask, made up 3,0 million votes for United Russia? Of course. Moscow, its leaders in the Kremlin, ministries, and departments. Why did they vote for them: workers with a meager salary of 5 thousand rubles, peasants who were dying of hunger, scientists, students, no, no one voted for them.

    The actual distribution of votes most likely did not work out in favor of United Russia. And the places were distributed as follows: 1. the place was taken by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the 2nd place was taken by the LDPR, the 3rd place was possibly taken by United Russia. Of course, they will not show such results to anyone. The fact that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation won is considered a disgrace for them, and their end, their death. And they have already crawled out onto the screens, the leaders of United Russia, and thank everyone for their support, and rejoice at their fake victory. Posting falsified results on the screen. Which seems to be non-negotiable. Of course, there is no smell of democracy in such elections.

    The scenario of the elections held in Belarus is repeated. When voting for A. Lukashenko. It is necessary to check the results, dear representatives of the press, not at the exit, by asking people who voted for whom. This is complete nonsense. Conduct similar surveys. Anyone can simply be lying. And judge the elections based on these answers, much less give hasty results and conclusions. First of all, it is not ethical to stop people on their way out and interview them. We need to work with documents. With sheets of paper indicating who voted for whom.

    So go, party leaders yourself, everyone to your polling stations and check the correspondence of the data with the actual arrival of people at the polling stations. And with the actual voting results. And give a report in terms of regions, republics and autonomies, and for Russia as a whole. Then the elections will be fair. And then one, two, three and kings. No, that’s not how it’s done, gentlemen. Democracy must be complete. It’s not that democracy is partial, only for United Russia! And if, upon verification, it turns out that less than 50 percent turned out for the elections. The elections must be declared invalid. And set a new deadline for holding repeat elections. Good luck Russia.

    Source: newsland.ru
    1. -1
      6 December 2011 07: 15
      most likely SprRosy than a bucket...
      Democracy must be complete.

      If Greek as an ideal, then there were slaves and non-citizens (as in the Baltic states)... Reading the history of the ancient world.
      Democracy, like communism (not to be confused with socialism), is a utopia... I defended my candidate’s dissertation - I know...
      The only place where they won was the Caucasus...
    2. +1
      6 December 2011 22: 03
      Alas, it was the residents of small towns and rural areas, as well as well-earning gas and oil workers (data from, for example, the Tyumen and Chelyabinsk regions) who voted for the foodists. In large cities, incl. and in Moscow, the percentage of votes for “this” party is not the highest than the average for the Russian Federation. It’s interesting how our Armed Forces voted: after all, they demanded total control, right down to family members of military personnel. According to rumors, for the conferment of general and admiral ranks, by presidential decree, three versions of the lists were prepared by December 12: large, medium and small, which were supposed to be implemented in accordance with the voting results - the more in garrisons, military units, formations and associations vote for United Russia, the more candidates will be included in the list for assignment... Let's wait for the reaction of the Moscow Region.
  69. lokdok
    +2
    6 December 2011 09: 47
    Quote: Sobibor
    Tell me - citizens of Russia, do you believe in the election results?

    Yes
  70. Fuck_usa
    +1
    6 December 2011 12: 27
    I sincerely respect my work colleague named Irina Kh., she fulfilled her duty as a citizen of the Russian Federation and did not give her vote to this Medveputov brat!!!! as well as all those who went against the Gazprom pipeline in the elections.
    Communist Party of the Russian Federation we are with you!!!!!
    1. +1
      6 December 2011 12: 50
      that is, you don’t respect those who made their choice sincerely, but it did not coincide with yours?!
      and as for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, our head of the rural administration is from this organization, as a result of his illiteracy, several farms cannot remove hay from the fields and livestock are on a starvation diet
  71. -2
    6 December 2011 22: 29
    All these videos are fabricated nonsense! Don't believe this ladies and gentlemen. They want to divide us and quarrel with us. Don't give in to provocations!
    1. strelok-07
      +1
      6 December 2011 23: 40
      Are you by any chance from the Central Election Commission? Otherwise, you can see that he has a good eye. How many of you are non-believers? Are you putting the blame on yourself from the central TV channels, or is someone helping you?
      1. -1
        6 December 2011 23: 59
        If we recall the Soviet years, then who was in power? They were all called thieves and corrupt officials. And in the 90s? Same thing now ...
  72. 0
    7 December 2011 10: 00
    So we waited for the results of the elections in the Armed Forces: “As Kommersant reports, on December 5, Serdyukov sent “for information” a letter to the chairman of the government, in which he reported that the turnout for elections in the army had increased compared to 2007 from 85 to 95,5 percent This time 96,8% of military personnel voted for EdRo (instead of 95,3% in 2007), 93,4% of their family members (instead of 90,2%), and also 94,6% civilian personnel (instead of 93,2% four years ago).
    He also noted that among the 23 videos about voting in the army shown on federal television channels, there was not a single negative one.
    In a separate section of the report devoted to the voting results, it is noted that the military and members of their families voted primarily for United Russia - it received 80% of the votes among the “military electorate” against 66,9% four years ago. The LDPR, according to the minister, took 8,6%, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - 6,3%, Just Russia reached 3,4%, and for all opposition parties the results worsened compared to the last elections.
    Central Election Commission member Oleg Lavrov, who oversees the voting of military personnel, when asked by the newspaper where the Minister of Defense got a detailed certificate of military voting, said: “I’m also interested.” The prime minister's press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, also said that “this is the first time he has heard of such reports.”
    http://www.ridus.ru/news/12865/
    http://expert.ru/2011/12/7/po-voennomu-chestnyie-vyiboryi/
    This is a direct confirmation of total control over every military personnel and members of their families, and, consequently, unprecedented pressure and restrictions on the rights and freedoms of citizens. The Prosecutor General's Office and the Investigative Committee should already begin proceedings locally and in the Moscow Region itself.
    Even more fun, boss. section of Lenmebeltorg rubs against the FSB lieutenant colonel!!!
    1. mar.tira
      +1
      7 December 2011 10: 10
      Yes, it could be expected that you are just like a little one! But I didn’t expect anything else. Zyuganov said today: I quote, “We do not rule out (God forbid) a campaign against the Kremlin. Everything will depend on the development of the situation in the coming days. You should not think that we are doing anything.” Oh, how! Zyu has a voice. Where was he before?
  73. 0
    7 December 2011 16: 55
    Someone moans that if you vote, don’t vote, you’ll get a bucket.
    I’m from Kaliningrad - and even here a bucket with all the violations, the arrival of an iPhone, etc., was able to scrape through the city with 25%! But in the region they played tricks.... So you have to go and vote. At least you won’t be ashamed in front of yourself and your children!
    ... yes, and having crap themselves in these elections, they want to reintroduce the “Against all” column - in order to draw votes away from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation in the first place. So you shouldn’t forget about this in the future.
    1. strelok-07
      0
      7 December 2011 23: 49
      Hello fellow countryman! Once again they showed United Russia that they won’t have a good time with us. Boos “gone” and Tsukanov “let’s leave”; their governors are not taking root with us.
  74. +1
    7 December 2011 18: 45
    The most popular election slogan is “We won’t let OTHERS plunder Russia.”
  75. +1
    7 December 2011 23: 31
    I watched the videos again - there was a concrete setup. If we talk about it like an adult: Women are doing something illegal with ballots without closing the door. Take pictures, good people. Ten ballots are thrown into the ballot box at a time - none of the inspectors sees this.
    And in general, if you want to set someone up, fill out all the papers in the column of the leading party, throw them in the ballot box, and
    after that, start to be more indignant than anyone else. EdRo is already strong and they don’t need to rig anything, but what happened on the ground with this local initiative is really a disservice to the bear. Performances at Triumfalnaya - I wonder whose money?
    1. +1
      9 December 2011 16: 38
      Quote: sedoj
      Ten ballots are thrown into the ballot box at a time - none of the inspectors sees this.

      They just don't want to see this.

      Quote: sedoj
      And in general, if you want to set someone up, fill out all the papers in the column of the leading party, throw them in the trash, and after that start being more indignant than anyone else.
      It’s generally inappropriate, it’s easier then to “vote” for your party if you don’t have a conscience either. And it’s almost impossible to prove stuffing; no one “hears.”

      Quote: sedoj
      EdRo is already strong and they don’t need to rig anything,

      then it is not clear why, with all the falsifications on the ground, they have less than 50% of those who “came”? Considering that local grandmothers were agitated by the fact that help would be allocated (we came with an urn, so they asked us for it, on the basis of voting for United Russia), and by the fact that “Putin” said that the ambulance would arrive in 15 minutes and not in 4 hours... There were also threats to turn off the gas and not pay pensions. How much does it take for old ladies to get scared? Ugh... what a party...
  76. Voodoopeople
    +1
    9 December 2011 14: 06
    The country is turning into Edrossiya, and then into Eurasian Edrosstan.

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