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United States Marine Combined Training Center and Gender Neutral Positions

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United States Marine Combined Training Center and Gender Neutral Positions

The Marine Corps (ILC) was ordered to submit a plan for the initial joint training of its servicemen and to make their posts more gender-neutral, following the latest trends in the opening of all combat positions for women.


In a memo from 1 in January 2016, Corps Commander General Robert Neller, Navy Minister Ray Meibas asked for a “detailed plan” of how the Corps would integrate its recruit training center and officer school. The note states that the plan should be ready for January 15, and its full implementation on April 1.




“The implementation plan of the Ministry of the Navy should include gender integration of the recruit training center and the marine infantry school,” writes Meibas. “In the presented document, determine where this training is already integrated, where it is still divided, and the special activities that you will take to fully combine these two preparations.”





In the second note by Mebas Neller of the same day, the Minister of the Navy ordered the corps to conduct a full inspection of its military occupational specialties (MES) in order to guarantee their gender neutrality.





“Upon achieving the full integration of the armed forces ... we will be able to update the job titles and their descriptions in order to demonstrate that women are included in these MESs,” writes Meibas. “Please check all the job titles in the ILC and ensure their gender integration, also removing the words“ man ”from the job titles and submit me a report on implementation in the shortest possible time, but no later than April 1 of the year 2016.”





The official representative of the Navy (who wished to remain anonymous) said that they had already received a similar note relating to their MAS and their descriptions. However, Maybas is not going to demand the replacement of canonical names as “infantryman” (infantryman), “rifleman” (shooter) or “midshipman” (cadet of the naval academy).

"The idea is not to change all the names and terms where the word" man "is present. ... But where the word" man "appears as a separate word ... they want to change the name."





Examples of similar job titles at the ILC include the “reconnaissance man” (reconnaissance), “fire support man” (fire support specialist) and field artillery sensor support man (specialist field artillery devices). In these cases, the spokesman said, the word "man" can simply be removed from these names.

Corps representatives confirmed receipt of both documents. Lieutenant Colonel Eric Dent, a spokesman for Neller, said that the ILC "is working hard to be in line with the establishment of the Minister of Defense." CMP presented its implementation plan to Meibas and Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter in December, which is currently being studied by a working group of the Department of Defense.





Each type of armed forces had to submit a similar plan on January 1. Army plans fleet, aviation and the Marine Corps, according to a note from the Ministry of Defense, were to include “schedules for the integration of newly opened specialties and posts using existing recruitment, entry, training and appointment procedures.”

Since Maybass’s note on integrating the center of recruits was not sent after this period, the Corps representative said that the ILC does not plan to include details on changing its initial training. A representative of the ILC, speaking on condition of anonymity, called the 15-day deadline for the submission of the plan to integrate the center of training of infantry to Meibas as an “aggressive term”.





“It’s necessary to think ... how many personnel to bring, how many instructors are needed for building training, what command personnel and support personnel are needed for all of this,” a representative of the ILC reflects. “The barracks in San Diego are H-shaped, so you can see everything that happens inside.” If women are settled there, do you have to curtain all the windows or give them the whole building? Or is there a floor for men and a floor for women? ”





If candidates for marine officers, women and men, have been trained together for many years, then the marines remain the only kind of troops sharing their recruits. Female recruits are trained only at the Marine Corps Training Center in South Carolina, where they live and are trained separately from their male colleagues.

KMP officials have long praised the advantages of this model, since it allows us to intensify mentoring between female instructors and women in their submission. But critics say it can have negative consequences, because women recruits do not have the same physical standards as their male counterparts.





It is not yet clear whether the West Coast training center will also be open for women in the coming months, but Meibas wrote that “co-location does not meet the requirements for general combat training of both sexes”.





"The most deadly weapon - marine and its rifle "

In the video, KMP Commander Robert Neller talks about the integration of women in combat positions.
The answer was to be the adoption of a decision within the framework of all the armed forces, which was announced in December 2015 by the Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter.



Materials used:
www.thebrigade.com
www.militarytimes.com
www.wikipedia.org
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  1. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 3 February 2016 06: 09
    31
    The last time I find myself on the fact that when reading the title all the time I am mistaken a la Freud request Here and now I read: funny preparation what From the second time I understand how to yes Then I look at the photo in the article and doubt that the second time was correct recourseWhat is it for?
    1. Sensatus
      Sensatus 3 February 2016 06: 17
      35
      And my viewing of the photo aroused the feeling of a pioneer camp. Is this any army in the photo that looks like this, or did they really lose their landmarks there?
      1. VP
        VP 3 February 2016 06: 23
        22
        Even in a pioneer camp, pulling up with a reverse grip, as in the second photo, will receive a "low frequency"
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        2. Aleksandr72
          Aleksandr72 3 February 2016 08: 09
          26
          Admire the "beautiful" and "spiritualized" faces of the American women in uniform in this "pioneer camp". This is the very real secret weapon of the American army - terrible and irresistible in its power! laughing
          But seriously, the United States and its army, including consistently follow the main path of universal human values ​​in gender policy. First, they allowed alternatively oriented people to serve in the army, then legalized same-sex marriage in their military forces. Against the background of these "achievements", the creation of mixed centers of combat training for new recruits of the ILC is an expected decision and quite an ordinary phenomenon.
          I have the honor.
          1. Poppy
            Poppy 3 February 2016 09: 43
            +7
            in Norway, barracks and souls with toilets are already combined - there is no gender division, so Americans have room to develop
            1. Pre-cat
              Pre-cat 3 February 2016 16: 14
              +6
              So in Norway from this year they also introduce universal military service for women. Previously, they were taken into the army on a voluntary basis, but now they will be called upon by all. Equality with
          2. hedgehog in the fog
            hedgehog in the fog 3 February 2016 12: 58
            +9
            why are they always yelling in the face of each other, is this such a psychological preparation or what?
            1. Igor V
              Igor V 3 February 2016 23: 36
              +3
              It is the Es-Ina (sergeants - instructors) explaining to the cadets that they "", those who do not understand, become "double shit". smile Thirty-odd years ago I read the book "Worms", now I remember.
              But seriously, they believe that a soldier should not think, they teach us, they teach us, they treat our army the same way, and then they are very surprised. As long as there is an officer to a soldier "comrade" in our army, no one can cope with us.
          3. free
            free 4 February 2016 08: 20
            +1
            shouts mask their ignorance and fear, these are not fighters.
        3. cap
          cap 3 February 2016 08: 31
          11
          Quote: VP
          Even in a pioneer camp, pulling up with a reverse grip, as in the second photo, will receive a "low frequency"

          In my youth it was called "Zarnitsa".
          A useful thing by the way. Undeservedly forgotten, like the TRP, which began to revive. When there is money to improve health at the state expense. Why not.
          And graduates of the center of mixed training can be quite satisfied.
          For example, in the military bath and laundry plant.
          1. bandabas
            bandabas 3 February 2016 09: 58
            10
            Will not revive. The youth are not the same. It used to be polls in "war", "Cossacks-robbers", "priest" and other games were cut. I remember they carved swords from wood, made shields from plywood "cucumber" barrels and chopped them. I don't see that on the streets. Nowadays the majority are on gadgets. If anything, clicked "save" and again to heroic deeds.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 3 February 2016 10: 19
              +4
              Quote: bandabas
              e will be revived. The youth are not the same. It used to be polls in "war", "Cossacks-robbers", "priest" and other games were cut. I remember they carved swords from wood, made shields from plywood "cucumber" barrels and chopped them. I don't see that on the streets. Nowadays the majority are on gadgets. If anything, clicked "save" and again to heroic deeds.

              So in our time, too - and 8 came to life)
              1. Altona
                Altona 7 February 2016 04: 17
                +1
                Quote: Pimply
                So in our time, too - and 8 came to life)

                ---------------------
                We just played a few rounds, like in cards. They played disguise to sneak up, for example. First one sneaks up, then the other. In "hockey on boots" or in "yard football". They didn't play war as such. There is more screaming. They played "snow town" or "king of the hill", "leapfrog". So that one team stood, and the other jumped on it and "broke" the formation of the team holding on its backs. Right now, as you remember the assortment, you don't see half of it, so .. They sometimes play "a thousand", hit the goal with a soccer ball. Lapta, salki, potatoes I don't see. Hockey on felt boots also almost disappeared ...
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 7 February 2016 04: 30
                  +2
                  Quote: Altona
                  They did not play war games as such

                  Alternatively:

                  1. Summer, the village is small, everyone has bicycles (6th - 8th grade somewhere). "Voynushka" looks like this: 2 teams are chasing each other (on bicycles), ramming is allowed. Moreover, each has a slingshot and full pockets of green rose hips. Shoot to kill is also allowed good

                  2. Option - "light": a pipe, a mountain ash in the mouth, and necessarily home-made glasses from plexus. What next, I think, is clear to everyone.

                  3. "Elephant". Marvelous team play laughing

                  4. "Horse fight". I used to be a horse, because it is too heavy for a rider. A heavy horse, plus a light and agile rider - that was something.

                  5. We also played "King of the Hill", only this was crossed with playing snowballs. Hits in the face and head were allowed, although not welcomed.

                  Now, unfortunately, this is really not visible.
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 7 February 2016 13: 37
                    0
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    4. "Horse fight". I used to be a horse, because it is too heavy for a rider. A heavy horse, plus a light and agile rider - that was something.

                    ---------------------
                    It was like that in the sports school. Develop endurance type. Element of the game with a load on the spine. And not only a fight, but also a horse race, whose "horse" more quickly reaches the other wall of the hall with a "rider" on the hump. Then "rider" and "horse" changed places. They still played "banks" when they throw a bat into a jar, and then the bat must be taken away, and someone "drives" around the jars, he needs to collect the jars and beat someone with a bat instead of himself. And there is a hierarchy, when you hit you move closer to the place of breakdown and become a "major", "colonel", "general".
                    1. Cat man null
                      Cat man null 7 February 2016 15: 16
                      0
                      Quote: Altona
                      They still played "banks" when they throw a bat into a jar, and then the bat must be taken away, and someone "drives" around the jars, he needs to collect the jars and beat someone with a bat instead of himself. And there is a hierarchy, if you hit, you move closer to the place of breakdown and become a "major", "colonel", "general
                      scrap"

                      No, this was not ... but in the Horse battle - yes, at a big break - a sacred cause .. Well, at the "labors", there was a day there so that people could practice on machines (they started with a file, from the 3rd grade. . in I laughed .. I mean this file .. grandfather - one carpenter, one - a locksmith .. both returned from the war alive .. lucky !!)

                      Chernogolovskaya Experimental School № 82 1969 - 1979
                      1. Altona
                        Altona 7 February 2016 16: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Well, and at the "labors", there was a day there, so that people could practice on machines (they started with a file, from the 3rd grade .. I was laughing at this file .. my grandfather is one carpenter, one is a locksmith. . both returned from the war alive .. in luck !!)

                        --------------------
                        In our labors, we made a planer, in class 6. This, of course, was partly idiotic work, because the main thing was to cut the sole for this plane out of 3 mm steel, then file it with a file, and drill it for fastening with screws to the wood planer body. Drills on the machine broke due to the beating of the cartridge, to grind the perimeter of the file with the file is also that horror. In the 9-10th grade it was already a type of vocational training, I went to the depot. For a year we studied a diesel locomotive such as a VL and a D-200 diesel, all kinds of rules — semaphore, arrows, repair. And in the 10th grade they stupidly repaired the classroom, and then the whole floor in depot.
                      2. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 7 February 2016 22: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Altona
                        On the labors we made a planer, in class 6

                        Yeah .. and I'm in the eighth - I worked on the universal milling. The third category of the milling machine operator after school (well, the practice was 2 months at the factory .. there was such an EZNP, I don’t know if it was still alive - I was not at home for a long time ..)

                        I mean, the main thing (IMHO) is personal preparation. You will not die yourself, and you won’t give others. It is stitched tightly because.

                        (We catch the cons from the couch .. guys, I really do. At that point, one young man made me celebrate New Year's Eve, huh. The young man is looking for ... not bandits, don’t think ... just my friends who didn’t like it. Honest policemen, from Moscow, I'm just next to it).

                        That's how we live. While it’s not boring, and this is the main thing ... since there is nothing left
                      3. Altona
                        Altona 8 February 2016 12: 31
                        0
                        And so it was about ... smile
            2. bandabas
              bandabas 12 February 2016 09: 42
              0
              Well, football with hockey was sacred. Therefore, I did not write.
        4. Belogor
          Belogor 3 February 2016 10: 32
          +4
          Earlier, older generations took part in the education of youth. His, not his own, but that was the business of the whole society. But what have you personally done to revive the love of sports in small people?
          buzz - do not roll bags
          1. bandabas
            bandabas 3 February 2016 13: 11
            +4
            My older generations (that is, my parents) forbade me to eat ice cream on the street in winter. And at home it is necessary to warm up, bring into a liquid state, so that it would not "get sick." And what kind of ice cream after heating? I ate anyway. It is a sacred thing to steal 10 kopecks (as an option for a penny) on a paper cup with a stick of milk ice cream. At -25 degrees. And that's okay. But ice cream was different then. So it's not about the older generations, but about the new ones. A look at life.
            1. Igor V
              Igor V 3 February 2016 23: 45
              +4
              Hard childhood. smile Mine took place in distant garrisons, where the word "ice cream" was as inaccessible as vacation in the summer. crying
              1. Belogor
                Belogor 4 February 2016 10: 29
                +1
                I’m talking about his personal contribution, and he’s talking about ice cream to me. is it frostbitten? I didn’t listen to my parents, did I jump? request
                1. bandabas
                  bandabas 6 February 2016 14: 07
                  +1
                  Do not worry. I am still contributing. You jumped Frostbite. Flag in hand.
              2. bandabas
                bandabas 6 February 2016 14: 05
                0
                An ordinary childhood during the polar night, frost and blizzards. And a beautiful polar day. And I was in the garrisons. But later. Come to the north. Live and plow. And what's wrong with ice cream? For "inaccessible" "plus".
            2. Belogor
              Belogor 4 February 2016 10: 09
              -3
              Sorry, sho?
              1. bandabas
                bandabas 6 February 2016 14: 13
                +1
                Yes, no. Are you working on surzhik?
    2. PKK
      PKK 3 February 2016 18: 12
      +2
      Yes figs with him with a grasp. Here I would have to drive my girlfriend in my youth through such an army training. Then they would have pistols at the discos of everyone who wanted it. And now we would watch army movies together, and not love TV shows on TV.
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      2. PKK
        PKK 3 February 2016 18: 15
        0
        Rather, the film would be made with chicks like "All-metal casing" Hunting to neigh.
  2. Poppy
    Poppy 3 February 2016 09: 42
    16
    and why the heck are American sergeants yelling all the time? Americans do not understand in a normal voice or what?
    1. Yura
      Yura 3 February 2016 10: 01
      13
      Quote: Poppy
      and why the heck are American sergeants yelling all the time? Americans do not understand in a normal voice or what?

      By the time they became sergeants, they were deafened by the yell of their commanders, and so they don’t even hear themselves, much less than others.
    2. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 3 February 2016 10: 41
      11
      In our army, this op is replaced by an artistic five-story mat. But checkmate is a kind of art, and the staff sergeant yell is just a mockery.
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 3 February 2016 11: 52
        +3
        Unfortunately, not everyone is given an artistic five-story mat. And the monotonous does not "inspire."
    3. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 3 February 2016 11: 50
      +3
      In our army, sergeants are "creative" in nagging "young soldiers". This creativity is not always successful. And they just scream like hysterics. This is an easier and safer method. But it seems to me that it hinders the mental development of both the sergeants themselves and their subordinates.
    4. PSih2097
      PSih2097 3 February 2016 12: 20
      +2
      Quote: Poppy
      and why the heck are American sergeants yelling all the time? Americans do not understand in a normal voice or what?

      this is called pressure, like "I am d'Artagnan, and you are all around Feces"
    5. S_Baykala
      S_Baykala 3 February 2016 13: 14
      +5
      Psychological technique: like they constantly yell at me, I have constant stress, therefore - I am resistant to stress.

      But to a real combat situation, as I understand it, this training is as effective as self-hypnosis in a joke (right now they’ll slap a ban for me, moderators excuse me):
      I do not want Wed
      I do not want Wed
      I don’t
      laughing
  3. bandabas
    bandabas 3 February 2016 09: 48
    +4
    And the photos made me feel like watching Major Payne. Yes Yes.
  4. anykin
    anykin 3 February 2016 11: 25
    +5
    It seems that the instructors suffer from constipation (facial expression))))
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  6. Boatsman_Palych
    Boatsman_Palych 3 February 2016 13: 49
    +8
    Where did you see the photo of thick-skinned bespectacled girls in the form of the Russian marines? We have no such fierce warriors. With laughter, I look forward to meeting them on the battlefield. Will they cry before captivity or after? There is nobody to see, to take already into the great army of an exceptional nation ...
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 3 February 2016 16: 11
      -2
      Quote: Boatswain_Palych
      Where did you see the photo of thick-skinned bespectacled girls in the form of the Russian marines? We have no such fierce warriors. With laughter, I look forward to meeting them on the battlefield. Will they cry before captivity or after? There is nobody to see, to take already into the great army of an exceptional nation ...

      Exaggerated conceit usually speaks of stupidity.
    2. free
      free 24 February 2016 13: 29
      0
      well said good
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  8. Archon
    Archon 4 February 2016 13: 29
    +2
    No, photos of the Russian army look less like a camp. But a little more per zone. Because the Russian army has more difficulties and hardships, more often it requires the impossible or the fantastic. And this imposes a certain doom and tiredness on the face.
    This is if the usual life of Fota and the barracks. And here is a photo of the march-throws or exercises - everything is there as it should, no camp, everything is serious.
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 3 February 2016 08: 03
    18
    And the beginning of the article and photographs reminded me of their own film. Here is his announcement with us:
    The mayor of the city adopted a new law - there are no longer any restrictions on admission to the police. Weight, gender, height and weak mental abilities will not prevent anyone from entering police academy. Admission commissions are crowded with fat people, nerds and street hooligans. The teachers of the academy are shocked and intend to get rid of students in any way. But exams, physical training and pederast bars are absolutely not afraid of beginners. Not so seen!

    Remembered?
    The States decided to test the army for a "funny" set?
  • Slobber
    Slobber 3 February 2016 08: 43
    -25 qualifying.
    funny training

    pioneer camp

    Admire

    Ololo, what provisionals are there, spiritualized and beautiful. Both the Russian and Kazakh armies are all as if on selection, young people of model appearance. And as soon as they see a girl in uniform, for some reason they shout not "for a stake and a fire," but "ours are the best." Double standarts. However, with whom you will lead.
    1. Boatsman_Palych
      Boatsman_Palych 3 February 2016 14: 09
      +6
      No, baby - we just really served - unlike you.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 3 February 2016 16: 12
        -4
        Quote: Boatswain_Palych
        No, baby - we just really served - unlike you.

        Ponte, Ponte, Ponte ...
  • Pig
    Pig 3 February 2016 08: 48
    13
    especially painted tracks are stuck on the parade ground;) are there really such de-bi-s that even can’t be built in line ???
    and in general: some kind of scout camp ... and what kind of idiotic system is to scream in person? saliva probably splashes;) recalls our foreman who raised his voice exactly so that he could be heard right and left flanking and there were never problems with intelligibility;)
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 3 February 2016 12: 25
      +3
      Quote: Pig
      especially painted tracks are stuck on the parade ground;) are there really such de-bi-s that even can’t be built in line ???

      some there do not just know how to write and read, but have IQs in the area of ​​the white mouse, although everyone wants American citizenship ...
    2. Maksus
      Maksus 3 February 2016 14: 27
      +2
      In the KMP, drill training is minimized - this is the very thing to stand on the trail, but the emphasis is on the physic and shooting range. Many in the troops drill useful?
      In fact, the Marine Corps in the states is tough, tougher than ours in the infantry. Marines in the states are normal fighters, they even participated in the "toy" war in Iraq in real battles.
  • marlin1203
    marlin1203 3 February 2016 09: 42
    +9
    The banter, I think, is not appropriate here. Normal KMB. On it, any recruit looks like a "deer". Joint divisions in the Marine Corps are complete nonsense. The death or injury of a woman in such a platoon immediately demoralizes him - military psychologists have established this long ago. Not to mention the fact that in terms of physical training, a rare woman will not yield to a man. After such preparation, everyone will be dispersed to the rear services, communications, medicine and everything will be fine. And I am prepared at the US ILC at the level, especially given their frantic funding. This would not hurt us either ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 7 February 2016 04: 25
      0
      Quote: marlin1203
      And the training at the United States Commission on the level, especially given their frantic funding. It wouldn’t hurt us either ...

      --------------------
      There are many times more shooting than ours, and everyone learns to use a heavy machine gun and a grenade launcher. They learn to conduct correct fire to suppress the enemy, one of two machine guns should be silent for reloading. Learn to fire at air targets. And work out everything until muscle memory so as not to think. They are simply told that they will be helped in any case, or they will go on the attack, surpassing the enemy once in 5. If this does not happen, then they squeeze the point. Our task is set on "must survive" or "to fulfill at any cost." And in this, as it were, there is a big difference. And how there they are shouting or throwing dirt with their belly, the difference is small.
  • Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 3 February 2016 10: 37
    +1
    The White Tights battalion is in action. Well, yes to us - "Orcs", in principle, it does not matter who the enemy is. request
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 3 February 2016 11: 55
      +1
      Orcs yes, but the Muslims do not care!
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 February 2016 06: 10
    13
    Even in the Israeli army, women do not serve in "combat" positions, although the situation there is much more serious than in the states. Is the mattress really that bad?
    1. igordok
      igordok 3 February 2016 08: 26
      +7
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Are things really so bad in a mattress?

      In the minds most likely - yes.
  • Floock
    Floock 3 February 2016 06: 15
    12
    The sergeants are certainly strong, but there are many "bespectacled" among the cadets. This is significant.
    1. Lyapis
      Lyapis 3 February 2016 06: 23
      +9
      Well this is temporary, presumably. In the end, the training was designed to correct this.
    2. dokusib
      dokusib 3 February 2016 06: 41
      +8
      Nda-a with bespectacles brute force.
    3. Maksus
      Maksus 3 February 2016 07: 44
      0
      That you still have not seen the IDF, but how they bend the Arabs)))
  • cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 3 February 2016 06: 17
    10
    the plan should be ready by January 15, and its full implementation on April 1.

    By the 1st of April they’re getting ready .... Well, everything is ponyayayayayayatna))))
  • VP
    VP 3 February 2016 06: 22
    +5
    Also they found a problem for me, change man everywhere to being and all business lol
  • ovod84
    ovod84 3 February 2016 06: 22
    +3
    They are probably taught how to yell at soldiers.
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 3 February 2016 09: 49
      +4
      learn
      only what is the meaning of this action?
      1. amirbek
        amirbek 3 February 2016 10: 12
        +8
        Quote: Poppy
        They are probably taught how to scream.

        this photo is missing
        1. Army soldier2
          Army soldier2 5 February 2016 18: 55
          +2
          Colleagues, I’ll insert my five cents, as I watched this system from the inside.
          The sergeants scream like that, proving to the recruits that they are nobody at the moment. And they will become "half-human" only after completing their studies and becoming a private in the first grade. Interestingly, the sergeant has no right to touch the private (even with the aim of adjusting his uniform or weapon). For this he can sit down. Discipline in the US Army, unfortunately, is at the highest level. All military personnel are motivated. Only a sergeant conducts classes in a small unit. Sergeant is very cool. For example, a battalion senior sergeant gets more lieutenant, plus many benefits. In the classroom, everyone is equal. No one cares if you are a fighter or a fighter. Therefore, all the plump ones will disappear by the end of the course.
          Well and more. Sergeants on 90% African American.
          1. Army soldier2
            Army soldier2 5 February 2016 19: 00
            +3
            PS I looked at the comments - whoever spit the most Americans, he earned more pluses. For all my great dislike of the United States, I note that their army is not bad. The enemy must be respected.
  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 3 February 2016 06: 29
    15
    When you look at these individuals independent of intelligence, you understand that Darwin was right about the Americans — they definitely came from monkeys. fool
  • Tarikxnumx
    Tarikxnumx 3 February 2016 06: 38
    19
    After viewing the photographs, one gets the feeling that any employee of the American army by the time he reaches the rank of "sergeant" turns into a patented hysteria. They always shout, with or without reason laughing
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 3 February 2016 07: 11
      13
      This is the method of education - suppression. The soldier must unquestioningly carry out the order of the superior, at the level of the reflex. Here they also develop this reflex. Everyone goes crazy in their own way, they have the right, although it seems wild to us.
      1. Tarikxnumx
        Tarikxnumx 3 February 2016 12: 01
        +8
        one of the most unreliable methods of developing a reflex. The cry, as for me, in a normal person always causes retaliatory aggression. Those. in the end, this can lead to conflict. If a person is depressed, then on the one hand it can and will give obedience, but on the other it completely discourages initiative. We get at the exit not a fighter, but cannon fodder, which is not capable of fighting without an order ...
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 3 February 2016 12: 29
        +3
        Quote: inkass_98
        The soldier must unquestioningly carry out the order of the superior, at the level of the reflex. Here they also develop this reflex.

        we have a drill for this ...
  • nemec55
    nemec55 3 February 2016 06: 41
    11
    Six people in the photo have five in glasses (arrows EP Voroshilov)
    The first photo is a masterpiece of American military science in general (the main thing is shouting harder. DO NOT SHOOT I HAVE A HAND)
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 3 February 2016 07: 35
      13
      Quote: nemec55
      Six people in the photo have five in glasses (arrows EP Voroshilov)
      The first photo is a masterpiece of American military science in general (the main thing is shouting harder. DO NOT SHOOT I HAVE A HAND)

      They not only see poorly, but also hear poorly. Looks like sergeants in the ear yelling.
      “Uncle, why is their coachman looking at me in the larnet?”
      - We see weak.
      - Poor thing .. (x / f Formula of love)
    2. Kachesgm
      Kachesgm 3 February 2016 09: 37
      +3
      Until I made a laser correction, the current walked in glasses. Actually, he served with glasses. It prevented the shooting of current in the winter, it did not affect the accuracy of the shooting. There were problems in rain and snow, but the sighted were also not up to par. Especially on some military. there are no strict vision requirements ...
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 3 February 2016 12: 44
        +1
        Quote: KachesGM
        Especially on some military. there are no strict vision requirements ...

        Well, Scientific Companies have now appeared, so there the diopter thickness in a centimeter is not the limit, because the main thing is there? Invention and scientific justification.
  • R-22
    R-22 3 February 2016 07: 08
    +6
    Interestingly, where did they get the tradition of eagles from furniture to draw?
    1. zritel
      zritel 3 February 2016 08: 45
      +6
      Probably, in the office of the bunker, one bad spied.
  • pv1005
    pv1005 3 February 2016 07: 26
    +6
    There are no more problems in the American army acre gender neutrality ??? what Well, thank God. fool wassat
  • Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 3 February 2016 07: 28
    +7
    I came to meet with the American infantrymen around the year 1998, they came to co-existent exercises.
    it was interesting to see what their soldiers looked like.

    the weapons, the form of the technician were at a high level, when they went "into the fields" their fire sent them hot food in small containers. We, the Israelite soldiers, ate dry rations and spent too much time.
    But the marines themselves, as humans, made an impression not of particularly intelligent and high-quality people. Normal, in principle, but slightly infantile.
  • qwert
    qwert 3 February 2016 07: 31
    +5
    I understand that the basis of their combat training is the ability to scream loudly?
    1. Stas57
      Stas57 3 February 2016 09: 59
      +7
      suppression of the will, "plywood to break through" is impossible, but it is necessary to force the order to be carried out at the reflex level, so they are tormented by lack of sleep, physical exhaustion, screaming - the development of automatic execution of the order.
      By the way, in sects, approximately the same principle applies.
      Apparently they’re so comfortable.
  • Coronel76
    Coronel76 3 February 2016 07: 32
    +2
    In the video, black Americanos was silent for 47 seconds of this soulful speech. laughing
  • SOF
    SOF 3 February 2016 07: 32
    +2
    Quote: R-22
    Interestingly, where did they get the tradition of eagles from furniture to draw?

    Here, here .... And somewhere I already saw it ...
  • cobalt
    cobalt 3 February 2016 07: 34
    +5
    And I was amused by the photo where one of the girls has earplugs in her ear, apparently so deafened by the sergeant's hysterical cries and now she is protecting her hearing.
  • Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 3 February 2016 07: 39
    +2
    Photo amused. Well, if this is their main problem - I will sleep better!
  • Velizariy
    Velizariy 3 February 2016 08: 26
    +6
    Quote: Maki Avellievich
    Israeli soldiers ate dry rations and waited

    What did you do ???
    Why yell so hysterically at the soldier?
    And she was amused by the hysterically screaming little black woman with a saber))))
    1. Riv
      Riv 3 February 2016 08: 38
      +7
      And if they don’t yell, then it is considered that they are not a sergeant.
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 3 February 2016 12: 55
      +1
      Quote: Velizariy
      And she was amused by the hysterically screaming little black woman with a saber))))

      if you look closely, she doesn’t pull on a black woman, maybe someone from her ancestors muddied with representatives of Spanish blood, and so she is almost purebred Yankees.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 3 February 2016 08: 30
    +6
    If a man and a woman were the same entity, then they would be called the same name. Tell me, there is such a name - man. But man is man (half man) + woman (half man). A man + a man, like a woman + a woman, is no longer a man.
    Who confuses people? The one who is the feat of the first man (first wife, and then husband) to taste the fruit of the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, to become like gods. His name is Satan (which means opposing God). His other name is the devil, which means slanderer. For slander is his main weapon against people.
    All this is described in the Book of Wisdom - the Bible. In order to at least understand something in life, it is useful to at least get to know Her.
  • Captain45
    Captain45 3 February 2016 08: 30
    +9
    Good afternoon colleagues hi When reading the title, Ruslan67 had associations according to Freud, and when I looked at photos 1,3,5, 11, XNUMX and XNUMX I also had associations with the good old program "In the animal world" or with a visit to the primate section at the zoo. I am not a racist and certainly not a sexist, but I do not have this notorious tolerance in me. "Forgive them, Lord, for they do not know what they are doing," it seems to be said in the Bible. DBL / BLT lol
  • Belimbai
    Belimbai 3 February 2016 08: 39
    +4
    Horror .... in the army did not shout at us like that ..... savages.
  • Captain45
    Captain45 3 February 2016 08: 46
    0
    Quote: Maki Avellievich
    I came to meet with the American infantrymen around the year 1998, they came to co-existent exercises.

    In the year 97 or 98, I don’t remember for sure, the Amers company and our peacekeepers conducted joint exercises in Totsk. Here is a comrade from Totsk telling joke (I am passing it on from his words): he ripped through their "Hammer" wheel (well, nails on our roads were not translated and will be worse than mines). They noticed when the tire flattened, stopped, decided to change. At this time, our ZIL stops with a household with a carrier and an escorting warrant (slightly drunk, as it should be a warrant officer). And the technical tool in the case, feast for the eyes, all shines, the driver took out a special rug so as not to get dirty, gloves, jacked up, push
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 3 February 2016 09: 52
      +3
      at the most interesting point :-(
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 3 February 2016 10: 21
        +1
        Quote: Poppy
        at the most interesting point :-(

        This is a lure. To be continued. laughing
        1. otto meer
          otto meer 3 February 2016 13: 36
          +7
          Oh sorry! Such an intrigue! What happened next ??? !!! The public is indignant!
          Okay. I had a case when the Americans could not continue to move due to a broken bridge. Tore off the bracket for longitudinal traction (club). And they had a welding-inverter, electrodes, a mask, but the clothespin-holder was broken. And that’s it, stop the car! When, before their eyes, in five minutes, they made a fork-plug and showed how to use it, they looked at us as gods. They have no imagination. They are human robots.
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  • Myr Myr
    Myr Myr 3 February 2016 08: 51
    +2
    Survived with their non-traditional orientations, men are already not enough))
  • PBF
    PBF 3 February 2016 09: 11
    +3
    When viewing 5 photos, you understand the full power of the Marine Corps mattresses. laughing Especially in the second row peeks out, just a terminator. laughing
    1. HUMANOID
      HUMANOID 3 February 2016 10: 02
      +2
      ANIMALS, straight goosebumps crying
  • kit-kat
    kit-kat 3 February 2016 09: 31
    +4
    So much for the grimace of feminism. One substitution of "sex" for "gender" is worth it.
  • salad
    salad 3 February 2016 09: 31
    +2
    And everyone has their mouths open)))))))
  • OCD
    OCD 3 February 2016 10: 00
    +7
    What are the inspired faces of sergeants. So u want to drive into the snout, from the heart.
  • twincam
    twincam 3 February 2016 10: 06
    15
    without words )))).
  • Funnels
    Funnels 3 February 2016 10: 06
    +6
    A la "Jen's Soldiers" (though Demi Moore will be any color better.)
    But you noticed that every second one is bespectacled, and all sergeants have their mouths shut, like watchdogs on a chain. But nothing human is alien to us.
  • Stas57
    Stas57 3 February 2016 10: 07
    14
    I just didn’t understand that everyone is having fun like that, for the sake of the pluses?

    underestimation of the army probable the enemy is extremely bad, I personally do not see a reason for fun.

    and now on

    The mixed units of the US Marine Corps, consisting of men and women, perform worse than purely male teams. Such results were obtained during nine-month tests conducted by the ILC command.
    400 troops participated in the tests, of which 100 marines were women. Of the 134 exercises, mixed teams performed significantly worse in 93.



    Units composed of men showed complete superiority in exercises with a load, in particular when overcoming obstacles with a backpack, ammunition and weapons. Female marines constantly needed help, for example, to climb the 2,4 m wall.



    During the performance of such exercises among women, 27 percent of all injuries were recorded, in men this indicator was 13%. During the course of combat training, the share of musculoskeletal injuries among women was 40,5 percent compared to 18,8 in men.


    The fire performance of purely male units is also much higher: with the M4 carbine, the percentage of hits was 44 versus 28, with the M27-38 machine gun against 25, and with the M16A4 with M204-26 grenade launcher against 15.



    http://todaysmilitary.ru/2015/09/13/testy-v-armii-ssha-zhenshhiny-tochnee-strely


    ayut-iz-pulemeta-no-v-ostalnom-ustupayut-muzhchinam /? utm_source = twitterfeed & utm_


    medium = twitter

    original news
    http://ru.scribd.com/doc/280017557/Marine-Corps-gender-integration-research-exec


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    1. Vovanya
      Vovanya 3 February 2016 11: 02
      0
      What a pleasure to fight with such an army.
    2. Idiot
      Idiot 5 February 2016 21: 08
      0
      I mean scary?
    3. Idiot
      Idiot 5 February 2016 21: 08
      0
      I mean scary?
  • Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 3 February 2016 10: 16
    +3
    And these women have the command "Lie down!" ? wassat
    1. azazello11
      azazello11 3 February 2016 13: 03
      -5
      ... and lie down, and lie down on your back, and spread your buttocks ...))))))))))))
      1. nemec55
        nemec55 3 February 2016 15: 36
        +9
        ... and lie down, and lie down on your back, and spread your buttocks ...))))))))))))

        Buttocks then why push lying on your back ????? laughing
        Have you seen women ??? Naked ???? wassat
        By the way, and still THERE ARE NOT CROSSING THEM. laughing
        1. azazello11
          azazello11 2 March 2016 08: 51
          0
          wow! captain obvious!!! wassat
  • Belousov
    Belousov 3 February 2016 10: 32
    +1
    On the one hand, our conscripts are also far from Stallone, but on the other hand, we still do not have such a habit of suppressing our own soldiers morally, with such "punched-out" you can't fight much. But the footprints on the parade ground are certainly funny. fool
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 3 February 2016 12: 10
      +2
      "There is no habit of suppressing your own soldiers morally." This is the first time I hear about it. I may have lagged behind life, in the 90s there was definitely such a tradition. Fuck you forget. Suppression is not applied to everyone, but only to those who "blunt", which in the first months is almost 100%.
      1. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 3 February 2016 15: 51
        +2
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        "There is no habit of suppressing your own soldiers morally." This is the first time I hear about it. I may have lagged behind life, in the 90s there was definitely such a tradition. Fuck you forget. Suppression is not applied to everyone, but only to those who "blunt", which in the first months is almost 100%.

        I agree. and in the 80s were suppressed. It was a shame.
  • Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 3 February 2016 10: 42
    -1
    I wonder when a woman sergeant screams so she pisses? It would turn me on!
    1. Igor V
      Igor V 3 February 2016 23: 50
      -1
      They are in diapers.
  • Felix-A
    Felix-A 3 February 2016 11: 01
    +7
    Now it’s clear, the Iranians shouted at the valiant marines, the pattern worked - on your knees and sob laughing
    1. azazello11
      azazello11 3 February 2016 13: 04
      -1
      Ha! +100500
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 3 February 2016 13: 12
      0
      Quote: Felix-A
      Now it’s clear, the Iranians shouted at the valiant marines, the pattern worked - on your knees and sob laughing

      and ours for the same turns out it is necessary to expose front drill ...
  • serverny
    serverny 3 February 2016 12: 15
    +4
    Quote: Maksus
    You haven’t seen this yet.

    the IDF is smart enough not to try to make women marines.

    For the Americans, during the "pilot test" of this program in Iraq, the worst event was to get on a patrol with a female Marine. The reason is simple - physically, most could not withstand simple patrolling of the streets (even on hummers) at temperatures below 40 degrees in the shade, fainted and the whole unit had to return to base ahead of time.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 3 February 2016 16: 14
      +1
      Quote: serverny
      the IDF is smart enough not to try to make women marines.

      For the Americans, during the "pilot test" of this program in Iraq, the worst event was to get on a patrol with a female Marine. The reason is simple - physically, most could not withstand simple patrolling of the streets (even on hummers) at temperatures below 40 degrees in the shade, fainted and the whole unit had to return to base ahead of time.


      OBS is always beautiful
  • Guron
    Guron 3 February 2016 14: 01
    +4
    Well they Hollywood movies about the army have seen enough. Now they themselves are playing in the ARMY.
  • rus-5819
    rus-5819 3 February 2016 14: 45
    +3
    Please check all job titles in the ILC and ensure their gender integration

    Quote: Aleksandr72
    Admire the "beautiful" and "spiritualized" faces of the American women in uniform in this "pioneer camp". This is the very real secret weapon of the American army - terrible and irresistible in its power!


    Yeah! Now among the American Marines there will be a lot of "little girls"!
  • Atigay
    Atigay 3 February 2016 15: 42
    +2
    Apparently, the hope that the enemy will regret the woman, and she, taking advantage of this weakness, will bang him.
    And to be honest, it’s exactly someone who’s kidding me.

    By the way, the specific motivation to defeat the enemy.
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 3 February 2016 15: 44
    +1
    Who is this? The soldiers?
  • Koshak
    Koshak 3 February 2016 18: 48
    +2
    But I have a proposal - immediately, with families (husband / wife, traditional), to take people to such centers ... repeat
  • Massik
    Massik 3 February 2016 18: 55
    +5
    The presence of any military training is much better than its complete absence. A person gets used to everything and the only limitation in any achievements is his desire.
  • Egevich
    Egevich 3 February 2016 19: 02
    +4
    there is a set of "cannon fodder" ... what's the difference, what gender it is? .. not for good all this ...
  • a housewife
    a housewife 3 February 2016 19: 42
    +3
    And I have a question - why do they have numbers written with a marker on their hands? Do you need to number and count the herd? What clever man did they think of the women in the marines to send? You can’t argue against nature - well, women cannot compete with men in force, even kill! In dexterity, in accuracy, in quick wit - yes, but not in brute force. If you take in the total mass, not individual representatives. And what is the result? Part of it is pederasts, part of it is women, few people suffer from intelligence in their army, normal people do not join the army. It is enough to see how Americans behave in foreign countries, even, like, allied ones. McCain is a bright representative, not wiser over the years.
  • vovashturman
    vovashturman 3 February 2016 20: 01
    +2
    Wretchedness ....
  • Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 3 February 2016 20: 09
    +1
    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    why are they always yelling in the face of each other, is this such a psychological preparation or what?

    So you can see from the lips that they are yelling: "a soldier out of you, like a projectile out of Mr.
  • shura7782
    shura7782 3 February 2016 21: 59
    +2
    Quote: Poppy
    and why the heck are American sergeants yelling all the time? Americans do not understand in a normal voice or what?

    Of course, it looks defiant. Some of our former compatriots in the French Legion, on the course of a young fighter, were beaten for such an approach. But these are nothing. This is called stress tolerance.
    1. Forest
      Forest 4 February 2016 10: 34
      0
      This is apparently a reflex, aggressive erysipelas and naked)))
  • Captain45
    Captain45 4 February 2016 07: 50
    +2
    Quote: Captain45
    In the year 97 or 98, I don’t remember for sure, the Amers company and our peacekeepers conducted joint exercises in Totsk. Here is a comrade from Totsk telling joke (I am passing it on from his words): he ripped through their "Hammer" wheel (well, nails on our roads were not translated and will be worse than mines). They noticed when the tire flattened, stopped, decided to change. At this time, our ZIL stops with a household with a carrier and an escorting warrant (slightly drunk, as it should be a warrant officer). And the technical tool in the case, feast for the eyes, all shines, the driver took out a special rug so as not to get dirty, gloves, jacked up, push

    I apologize, colleagues, for cutting off the comment, but not through my fault, I inserted it completely. So, they tried hard, they tried, it is not possible to unscrew the nut, they called for technical assistance. The rapist is interested in what the problem is, what kind of help is needed (all this is done with gestures and mostly in obscene Russian), but he understood what was going on and gave the command to the driver to help this " to friends. "He takes a" balloon ", a sledgehammer, the Americans explain that it is not necessary, they say, the specialists will come now and do everything. Well, I drove .. hit the" balloon "a couple of times with a sledgehammer, unscrewed the nuts, changed the wheel. so, not according to the instructions, to which the ensign reasonably remarked, ah ... and then until nightfall, something to hang around and left. Here is such a brotherhood in arms.
    So they will fight according to the instructions and the plan. You noticed in all the films, as soon as the arctic fox comes, they start to rush like in the wounded lynx, shouting "Joe, do you have a plan ?!" and if there is no smart guy with a plan, then everything is lost.
  • AlexSam
    AlexSam 4 February 2016 20: 36
    +1
    looked at the pictures ... and these are the vaunted American marines ... women, bespectacled, hysterical sergeants ... the other day at VO I read about the 101st division, damn it ... if they have marines SUCH, then yes, damn it ... and sergeants? ours will do, the collar will be unfastened, the badge is where it should be, handsome! he pats on the shoulder in a friendly manner, asks in an insinuating voice about the hardships of army service, takes an interest in difficulties in fulfilling the assigned combat mission, health and the intimate side of mother’s life, paternally charges his chest ... a human soul! and these monkeys - it’s all that glamorous, nasty, squeals, sputters, it suppresses, you see, it develops unquestioning submission ... a sexual minority, not a sergeant ...
  • brotishka
    brotishka 4 February 2016 21: 35
    0
    In the treatise Democracy in America, a XNUMXth-century French humanist and thinker Alexis de Tocqueville stated:
    There are people who strive not only for equality, but also for the identity of men and women. By endowing both with the same rights, they impose the same duties on them. They want men and women to work together and have fun equally. It is clear that nothing good will come of such “egalitarianism,” but it will lead to mutual degradation, to “weak men and indecent women”