UAE acquire Patria armored personnel carriers

The Finnish group Patria announced yesterday that it had signed a contract with the UAE for the supply of Patria AMV armored personnel carriers with the wheel formula 8х8, all the conditions of the agreement are classified, the blog reports bmpd.

According to the head of the “land” division of the enterprise, Mika Kari, “armored vehicles for the UAE will have to be produced jointly with our Polish partners (the Polish company Rosomak SA)”.

According to bmpd, for the first time, the UAE Defense Ministry chose Patia AMV machines in 2008 g following an international tender.

“Then Patria presented a modification of this machine Patria AMV 8xNNXXL specially created for the UAE army with an armored corps extended to 8 and equipped with a fighting compartment of the Russian BMP-0,35. In 3-2008, Patria supplied the UAE with a pre-production batch of five AMV 2009x8L vehicles, armored corps manufactured under contract by the licensed production of AMV by the Polish company WZM (from 8 of the year, Rosomak SA), ”the author recalls.

Some of these vehicles were handed over to the United Arab Emirates Presidential Guard, others were run-in in Afghanistan. However, the promised large order did not happen. It is said that the reason for this was the global crisis that began in 2008.

Then another international competition was announced by the Emirates. Experts attributed the advantage of the French Nexter VBC. Reported that the order quantity can range from 300 to 700 machines. However, from the press release Patria it follows that the BTR Patria AMV won again in the tender.

According to information from unofficial sources, around 600 armored personnel carriers will be delivered to the UAE.

Comments

[Altona]

They take in such quantities. Who does it ride there?
PS The short balts, standing at the forefront of the West, talk about such numbers when they buy assault rifles and rifles.

[Thunderbolt]

4 mechanized brigades (35% of the personnel are foreign citizens).

[Now we are free]

Why be upset? If we had a ready and tested "Boomerang" then the UAE specialists would have thought. It is necessary to be glad that it is our "Bakhchu" from BMP-3 that is being put on Patria. And the wheels of the United Arab Emirates have always preferred caterpillars, that's the whole story ... By the way, the Americans with their shushpanzers - "Bradley" and "Starikers" fly like plywood over Paris.
The combination of a 100mm high explosive / ATGM spit and a 30mm automatic gun and a 7,62 machine gun proved to be very good in the war with irregular / partisan formations due to its versatility.
According to the 57 mm cannon to which many have claims, I can say the following, if 57 mm were correctly installed on a suitable wheeled / tracked vehicle and showed itself in battles (and in Donbass / Yemen / Syria / Iraq) it would have shown its best side believe me, then UAEshniki would have torn off a combat vehicle armed with a 57mm cannon with hands.

P.S. A "thoughtful" burst of 57 mm landmines (taking into account the presence of a modern fire control system on an armored vehicle with such a gun) will disassemble any post from 1,5 km in the frontal projection, a 57 mm projectile will "Transkluck" any enemy BM.

The ideal combination for BM is:
- 57 mm cannon with good UVR (adapted for her SLA / gun stabilization)
- ATGM * 2 as on "Bradley" to increase the ability to destroy the target Tank / bunker / armored vehicle with the first salvo of two missiles.
-Automatically 30/40 mm grenade launcher to suppress infantry (so as not to waste 57 mm of ammunition once again)
- 7,62 machine gun (if possible).

[zennon]

Quote: Now we are free

if 57 mm had been correctly installed on a suitable wheeled / tracked vehicle and showed itself in battles (and in Donbass / Yemen / Syria / Iraq), it would have shown itself from the best side

I'm not an expert. Confuses a little wheeled chassis. Of course, a long resource, but what about survivability?

[aba]

I read that the BTR-80 can continue to move when 1-2 wheels are damaged, and they write about the BTR-90 that it can leave the battlefield with up to 4 wheels damaged.

[Tor5]

Yes ... a decent amount, but I wonder how with combat quality?

[Lt. Air Force stock]

And what the American did not buy?

By the way, I read an article with replicas of the televised debates of presidential candidates from the Republican Party, they say that it was necessary to oblige Iran to invest US frozen money in Western banks only in American products (moreover, that Iran’s money was silent, and presented in the form that it was given by the USA this money to Iran), in exchange for lifting the sanctions, and when asked what to do now, they answer that they will introduce sanctions back.
This is so burning up in the United States due to the fact that Iran has already signed an agreement to purchase 110 Airbus passenger planes for $ 25 billion, only plans to buy about 500 planes. In addition, Iran has entered into a 600 billion trade deal with China.
In the comments in the English-language media, some write that Iran is not grateful, the United States lifted the sanctions, and they buy European planes, and they also echo that the money originally frozen in banks in the West is not Iran’s money, but US help.
And the fact that the United States imposed these same sanctions threatened with war is silent about this.

[Vladimir 23rus]

They take in such quantities. Who does it ride there?

Not who, but where are they going to go? This is interesting. It is not otherwise with Iran that they are going to "hack to death" (in the future).

[Russian German]

A mixture of a bulldog with a thoroughbred BMP-3?

[avt]

Quote: Russian German

A mixture of a bulldog with a thoroughbred BMP-3?

And moreover, not some kind of "Atom" with 57 mm stray, from which many trudge, as from a great, new breakthrough in armament, but with quite a lot of "Bakhchi" spat at us - "soviet sludge"! They are not looking for good, but order for themselves what they need and that they have even tried out in battles now - "Bakhchu", but on wheels!

[lukke]

something I did not understand - the American military-industrial complex in flight? Comrades, the Saudis, you, in a more accurate way, otherwise you will be ailing Arabia at such a pace.

[Lopatov]

You confuse them with the Saudis. The UAE has never focused on the United States in terms of procurement of arms and military equipment. Tanks - French, BMP - Russian

[lukke]

You confuse them with the Saudis

"- so he is not a Romanian, but a Bulgarian?
- what's the difference!)"
these countries are both in a coalition now against Yemen

[Primus pilus]

I don’t understand there Bahcha-U will stand. Are our people getting it?

[APASUS]

Quote: Primus Pilus

I don’t understand there Bahcha-U will stand. Are our people getting it?

Yes, in fact, we will supply the towers. And so, by and large, we squandered the tender ............

[Inok10]

Quote: APASUS

Yes, in fact, we will supply the towers. And so, by and large, we squandered the tender ............

.. and, with what should we go to it? .. from 82m? .. "Boomerang" is brought to mind ..

[Lopatov]

We did not "squander" anything, it was not even worth climbing there with the BTR-90.

[Maksus]

It seems that the Arabs finally decided to standardize their equipment fleet - a normal addition to the BMP-3 will work.

[lukewarm]

and equipped with a fighting compartment of the Russian BMP-3.

Where will they get it from? The pirate? Or to our military-industrial complex in the conditions of a practically ongoing war, absolutely where to put the goods? Or is it all a duck and a fake, and here I go for saliva?

[Lopatov]

They have a bunch of Russian BMP-3s. Some of them are modernizing, some are going to be changed to "wheels" for the sake of greater operational mobility.
But as far as I understand, the BMP-3 weapons are suitable for them, and they are not going to change it.

[Lopatov]

Jumped, the French ?!
But the leaders were ...

[rotmistr60]

“Armored vehicles for the UAE will have to be produced in conjunction with our Polish partners (Polish company Rosomak SA). "

That's right, Russia’s trade turnover with Finland has declined by 39% over the past year. Who will you lead ...

[Wolka]

a typical wheeled tank with all the pros and cons, it’s not at all the point, but the ability to fight, and the Arabs are far from the first or even the second ...

[gray_angel]

Quote: Altona

They take in such quantities. Who does it ride there?

UAE wants to get into the Guinness Book of Records by the amount of scrap metal per square kilometer

[Lopatov]

More accurate in the comments. They have about 600 BMP-3s in service 8)))

[25ru]

Clear. Able to Sluggish ImBicilli: Romanov is our everything !! Well, im for Romanov

[Alexez]

Interestingly - what percentage of the cost of an armored personnel carrier is occupied by a combat module?

[Zaurbek]

57 mm gun controversial, the tank will not break. And the installation, taking into account the return, weighs a lot. ATGM, if installed, will add mass. Therefore, 30mm + 100mm is a good choice, we additionally receive HE ammunition. In the future, it may replace 30mm with 37mm or 45mm to defeat the promising NATO heavy IFVs and armored personnel carriers.

[avt]

Quote: Zaurbek

. In the future, it may replace 30mm with 37mm or 45mm to defeat the promising NATO heavy IFVs and armored personnel carriers.

In the future, it is better, as Lopatov, who disappeared and appeared, has already spoken on this topic. , ,, Vienna "instead of a hundred and an ATGM to it, a new one in BC. Yes, not yet on a ,, Boomerang" and not on ,, Kurganets "- there ,, Bakhchi" behind the eyes, but on the T-15, Barberry "Here it will be really candy in the package! In support of "Armata" for arming the new ShISBR, all these notorious "Terminators" nervously smoke aside. Not to replace "Bakhche", but in addition to strengthening the first line.

[Navigator Basov]

Barberry, you say. And why not Buttercup or Podophyllus (Nogolist)?

[Zaurbek]

This tower will not pull a vein, a tank is needed, and therefore a hull too.

[avt]

Quote: Zaurbek

This tower will not pull a vein, a tank is needed, and therefore a hull too.

And what about this? I wrote

Quote: avt

... And even not on the "Boomerang" and not on the "Kurganets" - there "Bakhchi" behind the eyes, but on the T-15, Barberry "

[Zaurbek]

You wrote, and I discussed wheeled BMP. Not the fact that the T-15 needs such a gun. This is nazd, to the source, ISU-152! An attempt to put everything in an armored car and let it go to solve the problems itself is not entirely true. And if she is supported, in the form of other machines and helicopters, then she does not need so many weapons.

[Denimax]

To whom, and 57 mm is a perfectly sane caliber. Of course there were a lot of rumors and still no trials. And before, the main one was 76 mm, and somehow managed.
Now there is no intermediate, immediately from 30 to more than 100. Isn't it strange?

[Zaurbek]

Why? NATO has been switching to 40mm for 10 years already ... We have air guns 37mm, 45mm ..