Poland is going to pull the pipeline from Norway

On the eve of Poland, information began to arrive that the authorities of this state had gathered to “reduce dependence on Russian gas.” Information Agency Reuters reports that Warsaw is going to build a gas pipeline from Norway in order to purchase Norwegian gas for Polish needs. The Polish company PGNiG plans to reach the technical possibilities of supplying "several billion cubic meters of gas per year from Norway" to 2022.

The key word here is “plans.” At the same time, no one in Warsaw speaks about how much the Polish authorities will want the Polish authorities to declare that they do not want to conduct trade relations with Russia. Will the Polish economy have enough opportunities in modern conditions to finance such a costly project, or will they ask Frau Merkel for money? There is one more question: how much cheaper is it for the Polish economy to buy gas from Norway?

Today, the share of Russian gas purchased by Poland is almost two-thirds of the needs of the Polish economy. This share is about 11 billion cubic meters per year. If earlier Warsaw stated that it was ready to supply a part of the purchased gas by reverse with Ukraine, now they decided to forget about such promises - the winter is cold ...

Comments

[Hubun]

Well, well, such attempts of our "friends" touch me

[vyinemeynen]

Great idea! The Norwegians are just running out of gas! DB (s)

[st25310]

So they built a prot for receiving liquefied gas in vain?

[hydrox]

Quote: st25310

So they built a prot for receiving liquefied gas in vain?

These are not them, but their Lithuanian creepy associates, and at the same time they were so shitty that now the whole EU is laughing at them :: The Lithuanians decided to save money on the LNG liquefaction terminal, and for this they took a long-term lease on a Norwegian tanker for LNG transportation, but it turned out, that this gas is produced in one and a half times more expensive than Russian, and the contract was concluded on the principle of "take or pay". The Baltic extinctions have given up on expensive gas and Dooley mushroom now has a problem - what to do with the LNG already supplied by the Norwegians, and then the time of rent payments will arrive ...
The Psheks, it seems, are also going to step on the Lithuanian rake, but not in a liquid, but in a gaseous state - well, who in the world needs such an expensive gas pipeline to a depleted field to pump just a few lard cubic meters of gas to such a great distance (more than a thousand km!)?
Three jerks (Pshekia, Lithuania and Bukraina) can be seen competing in who will offer something even more idiotic and bad than their fellow fool.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: hydrox

It’s not them, but their Lithuanian idiotic associates, and at the same time they’ve gotten so dirty that now the whole EU is laughing at them

That's right. But the Poles also built an LNG terminal in иноwinoujцеcie (some name ) with a capacity of 5 billion cubic meters per year for receiving Qatari gas and in October of last year put it into operation. True, this gas is 2,5 times more expensive than Russian, but independence is not measured in money, right?

[alex-s]

And right away from the United States let them pull the pipe!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Ami du peuple

terminal in Иноwinoujцеcie (some name)

At first I thought that OCHEPATKA. Looked at Wikidia and was stunned

Pigman (Polish Świnoujście, until 1945 Swineemunde (German: Swinemünde) is a city in the West Pomeranian Voivodeship of Poland.

Well it is necessary to think of such ....

- Zadierinoguchezabraz!
- I!
...

Well, and so on ...

And what is the -woo and where is the pig?

[veksha50]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And what is -uytse and where is the pig?

There ... Where did you think ...

[ivanych]

... God gave the name ... yes.

[veksha50]

Quote: Ami du peuple

but independence is not measured in money, right?

Yeah ... But stupidity born of hatred of Russia, like acid, will corrode and empty their pockets ...

A fair wind and an anchor in the ass economics morons ...

[bobba94]

According to the estimates of one international expert organization, natural gas reserves in Norway in 2014 amounted to 1,6 trillion. cube meters, according to another - about 2,0 trillion. cube meters. The EU consumes about 700 billion cubic meters per year. m. Here you have the reserves, here you have a reliable supplier. The Poles climb into a deadlock, maybe they will last 5-8 years, and then what?

[inkass_98]

I would like to clarify the question: whose territory will the pipe pass through? And if it goes by sea, then how is it with the ecology of the Baltic Sea, about which the Poliks and Balts are yelling intensely in the context of the Nord Stream.
By the way, after the construction of the second string of the Nord Stream, the Poles will not be dependent on Russian gas at all, because it will be German, and let them figure out who the Negro is.

[The black]

the main thing is that between Poland and Norway suddenly there was no Ukraine

[just exp]

everywhere the pipe is built by the seller, and here the buyer is farting for himself to tear, he’s only ready to pry with Russia.

[Voha_krim]

Let them build. And they will ask the Labytes of advice. Those who have a lot of experience in communicating with the Norwegians about gas.

[Renat]

Through Ukraine ???

[marlin1203]

In my opinion, the Norgs had problems with the depletion of existing gas fields, but new ones did not open like ....

[APASUS]

I wonder where did the Polish plans for the extraction of its own gas go? Here they wrote that almost all of Europe can be supplied with Polish, but it turns out that they were also going to buy from the norgs?
Bad head gives peace of mind?

[Vend]

Quote: Hubun

Well, well, such attempts of our "friends" touch me

They will pull, they will not be able to stretch

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Hubun

Well, well, such attempts of our "friends" touch me

Gazprom very calmly accepts such "business deals" about the year 2022 ... In theory, you just need to reduce supplies to them to the lowest possible, and then completely stop ... so as not to blather ...

[kergudu straight]

The Poles will lay in the ukrov, they have experience, the "Black Sea" drip, so they will not give them a wooden pick in both hands, they will not give them a metal pick, they will immediately take it to metal acceptance

[Al_oriso]

Poland and Ukraine are twin brothers. Both "suffer" from Russian dependence, both suffer (without quotes) from their own helplessness.

[samoletil18]

A wooden kilo will be allowed for firewood.

[samoletil18]

A wooden kilo will be allowed for firewood.

[Semurg]

Quote: samoletil18

A wooden kilo will be allowed for firewood.

indeed, stupid Poles drown in gas and still want to find alternative suppliers in the future, and commentators such smart sexes of the Russian Federation live on firewood and coal and do not blow and they have no alternative and maybe will not.

[Mikhail m]

Patience, Poles, summer is coming.

[tol100v]

Quote: Mikhail M

Patience, Poles, summer is coming.

Apples will grow and ripen. Here they are for processing into alternative fuel!

[Koronik]

Yes, the flag is in their hands, let them pull at least from the USA. I think soon after the Ukrainians they will run to complain to the European court against the "monopolist" Russia, to reduce gas prices. I am still surprised by our conclusion of contracts with the EU for the supply of gas to Europe, where the courts of the same Europe are dealing with disputes - in an original way. It is high time to turn to the East, Hong Kong, China, Taiwan.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Koronik

Everything surprises me with our conclusion of contracts with the EU for the supply of gas to Europe, where the courts of the same Europe deal with disputes - originally. It is high time to turn to the east, Hong Kong, China, Taiwan.

The construction of a gas pipeline to China has already begun. As soon as we launch this Power of Siberia, the Europeans will bite the language. Now they trump the fact that Russia does not have an alternative market for them.
As far as I understand, they want to close the current gas transportation system into one circuit with the Power of Siberia, so that if something happens to redirect the flow to China, which can swallow this gas without choking. Considering that this project is receiving increased attention from Korea, Japan and India, then all "Europics" will soon disappear.

[vladimirw]

Yes, the Eurogays understand everything, and therefore they want to remove Putin and the Russian Federation in the treaty, so that the gas would go to them at the same price and supported Bendery by paying for transit

[Vadim Zhivov]

The Poles have spoken Ukrainians ahead of the planet in "freezing their ears to the evil of Russia" ... That's why it's not even funny anymore ...

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

A weak pipeline immediately stretch to the United States to receive gas from the owners directly?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus

A weak pipeline immediately stretch to the United States to receive gas from the owners directly?

Anyone who extends a pipe from America to Ukraine will not pay for this pipe in 150 years of operation! It will be cheaper to fly to Mars as a pioneer squad. My neighbor's son works at Gazprom, he had to pull the pipe first to Bulgaria, then to Turkey. In general, 3 months on the Black Sea blabbed to no avail. We do not have such a barge that pulls this pipe, rented. Lam Euros a day. But I don't remember who I rented - either in Italy, or else where ... And this is only this pipe-laying barge, and this is far from the main expense item, it turns out ...

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

Poland needs to pull two branches at once, gas will go one by one, and apples will be sent by the Poles on the other ...

[Delink]

Still, the cold is a little sobering the hot heads of Europeans.
It is better to have a tit in hand than a crane in the sky.

[Crucian]

The same Russophobic idiocy rolls over .....

[Stas157]

From the change of place of the terms, the amount does not change. How many pipes from Norway do not pull, this will not increase gas in Europe!

[Mountain shooter]

Nothing so "Wishlist". Many billions of greenery. And of course the Warsaw dreamers have this money. Or will rich Europeans give them them, just like that?
Germany does not pull pipelines from Norway, but "Great" Poland will.

[sisa29]

I want to understand the logic:
Germany does not pull pipelines: it’s expensive, the Germans are smart ... I see
"Great" Poland - planning means they are dreamers, if they want to, they cannot, and in general they are against us once ... At the same time, no one in Warsaw talks about how much the Polish population will cost the next desire of the Polish authorities that they do not want to trade with Russia.

Russia, was going to pull through Bulgaria, a bummer, started through Turkey .., wanted a Nord Stream 2 ... Then, by analogy with other countries, are we the one ?? And what do you think is not weak for the people of Russia to pay for the project of the third pipe.

[Wheel]

Quote: sisa29

And what do you think is not weak for the people of Russia to pay for the project of the third pipe.

"national property", however ...

[izya top]

so let them buy it from a distance. then it has an idle tanker

[nivander]

as I understand it, they will lay a thread on the bottom of the Baltic Sea, through the economic zones of Sweden, Germany, Denmark ---- well, well, it’s not harmful to dream.

[glasha3032]

The Poles will have no problems with this; they are their own for Europe; this is a problem for Russia — the economic zones of neighboring but hostile countries.

[rotmistr60]

Warsaw intends to build a gas pipeline from Norway

But first, at least, this issue needs to be discussed with Germany and Denmark, because Poland does not border Norway. Yes, and financially Poland will not pull one such project, and the Germans are planning their own from Russia. Therefore, while this is purely political blah blah. Yes, and up to 2022 g it is necessary to consume gas.

[mpzss]

Well, in principle, it is not difficult to build a gas pipeline from Norway, but there is one "BUT", whether Gazprom will allow them to pass their pipe over our "Nord Stream"! I would send either "ON ..." or "B ...."

[sisa29]

why do you think they should ask permission? He's not walking through our territory. And speaking in your words "send either" ON ... "or" B .... "can just us

[rotmistr60]

It's just that mpzss is probably a little tight with geography. Above, I wrote with whom, in fact, Poland should coordinate its ideas. But a person, obviously, does not read the above and has his own vision of geography and boundaries. I was especially pleased for the Poles

Well, in principle, building a gas pipeline from Norway is not difficult

[Riv]

The idea is not thought out. It is necessary to throw the pipeline from the Baltic. They’ve got gas there right now, and it’s just Norwegian.

[Barakuda]

Yes, let them plan .. Pink glasses and forward towards the steam locomotive with the flag .. Half of Ukraine "lives" like that, you see, the parosh shared his experience.

[LÄRZ]

I have a kindergarten under the windows. So our kids and conversations, and action games are more meaningful than these psheks.

[surrozh]

Chatter. And the company, probably, is going bankrupt, that’s attracting attention at the expense of Russia (again).

[avg-mgn]

But what about the EU antitrust law? The construction of the South Stream was blocked with reference to it. Or is the woof-master pshekam not a decree? And by and large, we are a military.

[tor978]

Well, they don’t want to buy gas from Russia, so let them refuse. What empty talk is to breed. You look, although there will be gas in Russian villages, although with our oligarchs, whose gasoline is not made from oil, and gas will not be from gas.

[Minstrel]

Knowing the swaggering and boastful character of the Poles firsthand (I lived there for 12 years), I dare to ask - is Norway aware of their plans? And then the 404th has already won the third world war (according to their words), and the world is neither a dream nor a spirit about a "great" victory.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Minstrel

Knowing the swaggering and boastful character of the Poles firsthand (I lived there for 12 years), I dare to ask - is Norway aware of their plans? And then the 404th has already won the third world war (according to their words), and the world is neither a dream nor a spirit about a "great" victory.

"A crest will remain a crest
Though you let him in Europe
Where to act with the mind,
He only annoys f * ck.

And that is why in Russia
Bequeathed as much by Monomakh:
"Contact God forbid!
With three - a Jew, a Khokhl and a Pig. "

The Jew is insidious, although blind;
Puffy Lyakh - worse than bl ** and,
Crest - eat the bread with you,
And then shit in your soup "(c).

"Ukrainians" T.G.Shevchenko 1851

No, Shevchenko was a genius, no matter who says anything.

[Maks-80]

Yes, let them build. The faster Poland’s economy will explode and run out faster, and so are Norway’s last gas reserves.

[Old Siberian]

Poles never differed in intelligence. Cognition and stupidity is their distinguishing feature.

[sisa29]

I'm not on the side of the Poles but tell me what is their stupidity? We decided to build a pipeline, on the contrary it is quite logical. Through Ukraine, not today, tomorrow a pipe may be laid, the northern stream will not be enough for everyone, Russia has only talk that if something is wrong then we will block the pipe. Read our Comments on gas topics, every second with a proposal to block someone valve or raise the price. So it seems to me to have an alternative supplier is not the most stupid thing. Another thing we start freaking out is that they want to buy not from us.

[AID.S]

Quote: sisa29

I'm not on the side of the Poles but tell me what is their stupidity? We decided to build a pipeline, on the contrary it is quite logical. Through Ukraine, not today, tomorrow a pipe may be laid, the northern stream will not be enough for everyone, Russia has only talk that if something is wrong then we will block the pipe.

You are incompetent. Poland receives gas through Belarus and not through Ukraine, as a separate gas pipeline, nevertheless it and the Baltic states were against SP1, although by your logic it improved the gas supply to all of Europe, and the Poles, including why the Poles’s dreams of a titmouse in the sky, in the presence of a crane in your hands and your similar perplexed questions cause quite adequate comments here.

[sisa29]

I admit that I am not competent, I did not know that they were not on the Ukrainian branch. Thank you

[sisa29]

But then the question is where Bulgaria and Slovakia will take gas if the Ukrainian pipe dies. May have to be shared by Poland

[AID.S]

Just by writing a comment, before clicking on the "add" button, try to check it yourself, to answer it, personally it helps me a lot, even just a wiki, sometimes I understand that I am not right or not Copenhagen and I do not publish. But sometimes I can forget to insert a word or zn. punctuation.

[glasha3032]

Russia has never had any talk that if something goes wrong, we will close the pipe. On the contrary, the Germans admit that it is Gazprom that is the most reliable supplier of gas and there are no complaints against it. All the cries about shutting down the valve are spread by the Western media, with the aim of denigrating Gazprom "and Russia in the eyes of Europeans. It's a pity that you think so too. And as for the idle talk on the VO website about cutting off the gas, well, it happens, but this is a personal opinion and everyone can express it, because we live in a free, democratic country.

[sisa29]

in terms of reliability of Gazprom, I agree with you, there were no punctures. But unfortunately the relations between the countries are becoming more tense, the vent is in our hands, and who will be the ambassador of the GDP? So we decided to play it safe

[glasha3032]

But we do not have any tension with Europe (although on the "Doomsday" clock it is 3 minutes at midnight) and it cannot be (and not only because they have money to pay for our gas), Russia simply has nothing to share with Europe! Russia benefits from a peaceful partnership with Europe. What is the point for us to attack Poland, Lithuania. Latvia? To feed and water them? To build them plants-factories-theaters-museums-hospitals again? Well, they do not want to live in friendship with Russia, well, they don’t need to. Because of this, it is stupid to shut off the gas ...

[dauria]

Fuck never mind different

Have you heard the element "Polonius"?

[A1L9E4K9S]

Here it is easier to do how to wean various gentlemen suffering from verbiage (only "our" oligarchs from Gazprom will not agree with this). Some of the very smart ones stumbled about the refusal of Russian gas, to the end to fulfill the conditions for the supply of gas, and not to conclude a new one and send their forest. Let the wood be prepared for heating, in Europe there are many forests, for a long time. Next time they will monitor the bazaar.

[Reptiloid]

THEY think that this is how they "scare" Russia! BLACKMAIL! Having heard about their grandiose plans, Russia will get scared and buy all kinds of vegetables and fruits! Not smart people !!

[colonel manuch]

Well. 2022 is still far away, but gas is needed now! For us now, it is the Nord Stream -2 that is important, and the "lords" are like that Pug _ which barks at an elephant. It is impossible to look so far now: either the "black padishah" will die - or the "donkey" (EU) will rest.

[afrikanez]

Well, if they don’t want to live a normal life, let them build a gas pipeline. Who is against it, they themselves have a head on their shoulders.

[silverwolf88]

As the saying goes ... the flag is in their hands ... BUT the gas pipeline for money Polyakov is a wonderful topic ... and if you consider ... that gas in Norway is more expensive than Russian ... so it's a wonderful project called "in spite of the enemies I will sell a goat"

[shax]

Trying to stretch the pipe does not
stretch your legs in a pan.

[jovanni]

When will they all abandon our gas? Maybe then we’ll start thinking about processing ourselves ...

[Ros 56]

Yes, let them pull, we are neither cold nor hot. I looked at the map, a flag in their hands and a drum around their neck, and at the head of a column of morons. They won’t stretch anything, if only their legs.

[hartlend]

Wanting is not harmful, the main thing is to shout louder. How many screams about TAP TANAP and other gas pipelines. How the question arises of who pays - everything is in the bushes. In addition, as correctly noted in the comments above, production in Norway is declining, now there is not enough gas there. For complete non-volatility, you need to throw the idea to build a terminal for receiving LNG. Let them pay. It’s still cheaper than we don’t have gas.

[Stariknv]

In Poland, yes, switching to an alternative source of heat is firewood and dung, and then gas is not needed.

[Gardamir]

It is good that there are no more problems in Russia and everyone rushed to discuss the affairs of Poland and Norway.

[glasha3032]

Well, it’s not always immersed in problems, you need to relax, relax and laugh, good luck and reason!

[Alex77]

That's right. We have half the Krasnodar Territory without gas, and Gazprom is thinking about where else to sell the national treasure.

[tommy717]

As long as the pipe is pulled out, Norway runs out of gas.

[Londa]

Yes, let them pull, let everyone refuse. Maybe even gas will reach the Russian village.

[kiparis]

I read somewhere that everything wasn’t easy there. The Poles were going to pull along the bottom of the Baltic Sea, but there is the Nord Stream. And in the future, the Nord Stream-2. And the Poles can’t get ahead of the Nord Stream-2. And the pipelines should not intersect. In this regard, the Poles and included in the protests against the Nord Stream-2 Baltic states, Bulgarians and other young Europeans.

[glasha3032]

They will go ashore in Denmark or Germany and will dock. No problem .

[guzik007]

With such measures, Europe will soon switch back to peat, since they have plenty of it. I remember, while serving in the GSVG, the whole of the GDR was drowned with peat briquettes and nothing fine fuel. You’ve got spoiled, you see, ecology, you see, they’re suffering. And so, you look and jobs will appear, let their migrants be attached, fortunately, there is no need for special qualifications.

[atamankko]

We sat, chatted, parted, PPR in Poland.

[Skym]

They are just darling!
You can not watch comedies, do not watch humorous TV shows, do not go to the circus. To do this, just read the modern world news about politics, and voila, the effect exceeds all expectations! :-D

[Bosk]

The Poles are all so clever and the Germans are overweight ... and they asked the Norwegians if they had "extra" gas? That the example of the Lithuanian neighbors did not mean anything to them? and they also planned ...

[Lelek]

(The key word here is “plans.”)

Flag in hand. After all, the "puppy" has a wealth of experience in laying international trunk pipelines, especially on the seabed "intersecting" with the "Nord Stream" pipeline.

[koksalek]

Let them pull right from phashington so for sure

[triglav]

Right Let them pull where they want. But these are all words. Poland does not have so much money to pull alone. And the Germans definitely won’t do it.

[Altona]

The Poles have such a good wish. Dear and stupid, as usual among the bourgeois. And gas is more expensive and infrastructure is expensive.

[Flat5160]

Class! Let them pull. According to experts, the reserves of Norway are coming to an end, in about 5 years. So far, only Norway itself will build gas. Or is it against this background a fake to inject Gazprom. In any case, the Poles began to zabushebalsya, then there is little gas.

[varov14]

Yes, let them bury, master, master, to extremes you can send refugees by air to Norway.

[fa2998]

Quote: hydrox

- Well, who in the world needs such an expensive gas pipeline to a depleted field in order to pump just a few lard cubic meters of gas over such a long distance (more than a thousand km!)?

And this despite the fact that there is a Russia-Germany gas pipeline running nearby in the sea. Why build the 2nd stage of Nord Stream 2 - it would be possible to make a branch to Poland. Direct deliveries, without any Ukrainian surprises! But this is probably simple, for the proud Poles, They are used to looking for difficulties, they storm peaks out of the blue!

[chelovektapok]

If Norway is so rich in gas, then why hasn’t it made money on such a sweet and profitable gas supply market before? Whose gas is Norway going to sell at a margin to Poland? If the Poles do not answer these questions for themselves, it means that swine flu is killing them from the bites of Ukrainian migrant workers.

[Igor V]

The Poles need a constant source of information so that they do not forget about the existence of a “great country.” They can’t offer anything good, so they spout all sorts of nonsense, from the demolition of monuments to the construction of a gas pipeline. There will be instructions, they will pull a pipeline from the Moon to pump helium-3.

[sharp-lad]

There is a new trend in Eastern Europe: harm Russia, step on a rake!

[4ekist]

Quote: vyinemeynen

Great idea! The Norwegians are just running out of gas! DB (s)

Why do they need Norway? Psheki can produce gas from rotten apples!

[will go]

Quote: guzik007

With such measures, Europe will soon switch back to peat, since they have plenty of it. I remember, while serving in the GSVG, the whole of the GDR was drowned with peat briquettes and nothing fine fuel. You’ve got spoiled, you see, ecology, you see, they’re suffering. And so, you look and jobs will appear, let their migrants be attached, fortunately, there is no need for special qualifications.

I remember we landed there in 82, got off the plane, and immediately a specific smell hit my nose, although the airfield was military and there were no cities nearby. Then they got drawn in and couldn’t smell the smell anymore.

[TOR2]

Reuters reports that Warsaw is going to build a gas pipeline from Norway,

Let them immediately pull out of the mattress...