Angola ordered weapons in Italy for € 212 million

Angola has signed a package of contracts with the Italian concern Finmeccanica for the purchase of military equipment and ammunition, the blog reports bmpd with reference to the resource www.girodivite.it.

324-mm torpedo Whitehead A244SM

According to the resource, the contract worth € 212,3 million implies the supply of the Angolan Defense Ministry "coastal monitoring radar centers equipped with an appropriate network communication system to install six helicopters (presumably AW139) and some 324-mm anti-submarine torpedoes A244S along the entire coast of the country equipment of Angolan boats ".

In addition, the concern has pledged to train Angolan military specialists.

Arms purchase is part of the program to modernize the Navy to 2017 g, adopted by the Angolan government.

“Our interest in acquiring modern technologies is based on the need to monitor coastal areas and borders to combat illegal immigration and drug trafficking,” a representative of the Angolan Navy explained to the publication.

Comments

[Dr. Bormental]

Why not with us? It seemed to me Italian specialists in pasta and pizza ... and then look at ... modern radar centers ... not khukhra-mukhra

[Pereira]

Interesting too. What did the Italians surpass us in?

[Baikonur]

Probably veiled veiled credit card! Corruption - it is in Africa - CORRUPTION!

[Hon]

Quote: Baikonur

Probably veiled veiled credit card! Corruption - it is in Africa - CORRUPTION!

Angola itself can give a loan

[forest park 86]

did not rely on kickbacks.

[Linkor9s21]

If they need radars, then definitely it was necessary to order from Russia.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Linkor9s21

If they need radars, then definitely it was necessary to order from Russia.

Why "unambiguously"? Italians also supplied radars to the Indians.

[Linkor9s21]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: Linkor9s21

If they need radars, then definitely it was necessary to order from Russia.

Why "unambiguously"? Italians also supplied radars to the Indians.

Well, if the Italians have better radar, then Russia is not in this life to compete with NATO.

[just exp]

Fiats are not cooler than BMW and Volkswagen, but someone else buys them.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Linkor9s21

Well, if the Italians have better radar, then Russia is not in this life to compete with NATO.

What does it have to do with steeper or not cooler, Italian radars are quite competitive, if they pour shit on us now, what will become easier?

[Dr. Bormental]

Maybe smoked bans them?

[Primus pilus]

That is why it is not with us, in a pile we helped them healthy.

[asiat_61]

Debts were forgiven. Although Angola can very well pay off its debts.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Dr. Bormental

Why not with us?

They are afraid ... The USA is in debt and everyone is obliged to purchase NATO standards! They are holding an African flag in their hands ...

[Hon]

Obama for Russia as Putin for Ukraine. Our mentality is clearly similar

[NDR-791]

For decades of free deliveries from the Union of everything and all the Angolans realized that our equipment for them, like all of Russia, is too ... in everything ... especially in the brain! You look and we will release them. Patrice Lumumba from all sorts of bongo-bongos in favor of those who really need ???

[Hon]

Quote: NDR-791

For decades of free deliveries from the Union of everything and all the Angolans realized that our equipment for them, like all of Russia, is too ... in everything ... especially in the brain! You look and we will release them. Patrice Lumumba from all sorts of bongo-bongos in favor of those who really need ???

why were the supplies free?

[Horst78]

Quote: Dr. Bormental

It seemed to me Italian specialists in pasta and pizza ... and then look at ... modern radar centers.

In general, the Italian military industry is at a very high level of development.

[Dr. Bormental]

I have heard about the Roman Empire, but I have not heard about "Italian industry at a very high level of development".

[Horst78]

Quote: Dr. Bormental

I have heard about the Roman Empire, but I have not heard about "Italian industry at a very high level of development". fellow

Problems with the information? Yandex to help you And so "whistle" is the lot of shkoloty (no offense. Take an interest in their developments in the field of air defense, naval forces, artillery systems, etc.)

[Hon]

Didn’t you hear about Italian cars too?

[corporal]

Quote: Dr. Bormental

Why not with us?

Two options are available:

1- Value for money satisfied in the Italian offer
2- We cannot offer products with the required performance characteristics. We simply do not have them.

[hartlend]

The third option is the political aspect.

[LÄRZ]

Quote: hartlend

The third option is the political aspect.

The fourth option is previously signed secret secret agreements / protocols / pacts / etc.

[Mavrikiy]

"It seemed to me the Italian specialists in pasta and pizza ..."

What kind of snobbery? This is not a distinguishing feature of an officer!
Don't remember "Otomat"? And from whom did we buy the leader of "Tashkent"?
Everything regarding the warm sea, the Italian will work. After all, no one requires sledge hammer resistance, reliability in extreme sports, maintainability. Here we are.
But to choose a suitable candy wrapper, this is not about us. Or maybe someone yawned.

[marlin1203]

Yes, and for a second, Ferrari-Maseratti-Bugatti ... so everything with the mechanics is normal!

[Horst78]

Quote: marlin1203

Yes, and for a second, Ferrari-Maseratti-Bugatti ... so everything with the mechanics is normal! laughing

Yes, and FIAT Chrysler crushed

[Vladimirets]

"a number of 324-mm anti-submarine torpedoes A244S, to equip Angolan boats" "

Torpedoes especially need Angola.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Vladimirets

"a number of 324-mm anti-submarine torpedoes A244S, to equip Angolan boats" "

Torpedoes especially need Angola.

As without them, Angola ..))) The order received everything, everyone buys the NATO standard! Russia alone goes its own way ...

[Hon]

Quote: MIKHAN

As without them, Angola ..))) The order received everything, everyone buys the NATO standard! Russia alone goes its own way ...

that is, when they buy ours, it’s right and honest, if they buy weapons from someone from NATO, then this is a mess.
Is India also buying in a random order?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Hon

Quote: MIKHAN

As without them, Angola ..))) The order received everything, everyone buys the NATO standard! Russia alone goes its own way ...

that is, when they buy ours, it’s right and honest, if they buy weapons from someone from NATO, then this is a mess.
Is India also buying in a random order?

India, Angola and so on. ..not they have a procurement system! They buy everything that glitters and is expensive .. I'm talking about it! We in Russia would also be able to buy imported weapons (for parades))) We need a simple, our own and reliable real war (they will climb again soon ..) These are the things in the tank and missile forces ..

[Hon]

That is, India is buying our equipment, because it is beautiful and expensive?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Hon

That is, India is buying our equipment, because it is beautiful and expensive?

No, of course, we protect them from China, but since they bought "Rafaeli" from the French ... Let them fight! If they can pick them up from the airfield in which case ... (and we will watch))))))

[Hon]

Quote: MIKHAN

No, of course, we protect them from China, but since they bought "Rafaeli" from the French ... Let them fight! If they can pick them up from the airfield in which case ... (and we will observe

And how is it that we protect them from China? If their army is not weaker than the Chinese, in the sixties they were able to pile on them. The presence of nuclear weapons in both countries reduces the likelihood of armed conflict to zero. In addition, both BRICS member countries probably do not really need our protection.

[Hon]

Quote: Vladimirets

Torpedoes especially need Angola.

if there is a navy then torpedoes are obviously needed

[Thunderbolt]

Angolans also take 12 dryers on orders from Washington? Angola is not under colonial rule and is not a member of military blocs. I even suspect that weapons are bought for their performance characteristics and reasonable prices. - Citizen Obama had time to put his bony hand everywhere. And when does he manage to do everything?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Hon

if there is a navy then torpedoes are obviously needed

Honestly, even Google did not help to know which torpedoes go to the Angola Navy boats.

[Thunderbolt]

Torpedoes will go on Israeli boats ordered by Angola. It is precisely this caliber that can be installed on them.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Torpedoes will go on Israeli boats ordered by Angola.

In the photo there is an Israeli boat without torpedo tubes, but does Angola have them?

[Hon]

Angola has an army comparable to South Africa

[Thunderbolt]

They said that Angola ordered 4 of these patrol boats. And there is a possibility in wartime to install a torpedo tube of this caliber on them. I think that "wartime" will come for them from the very beginning of operation.

[Hon]

On the Internet in general, extremely scarce information about Angola

[The black]

Quote: Pereira

Interesting too. What did the Italians surpass us in?

spears and bows do good

[Hon]

Quote: Black

spears and bows do good

and when you see the name of an African country, you immediately imagine the natives?
it looks like they have not only spears and bows

[The black]

and you think that this picture is just "the truth of life" .... do not tell me what kind of city this is in Africa in the photo?

[Hon]

Luanda in the photo. Do you think that with a GDP of 130 billion, they hang on trees there?

[Jan2016]

Even strange as it used to be, Angola was purchased in the USSR and then in Russia. In my opinion, they still have Mi-24 and Mi-28, not to mention the Kalashnikovs in the army.

[Vadim Zhivov]

I also think that we were treated differently in Africa ... With us, we used to mostly borrow (with forgiveness) and with Italy than they will pay ...

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: VadimLives

I also think that we were treated differently in Africa ... With us, we used to mostly borrow (with forgiveness) and with Italy than they will pay ...

Especially when you consider that Angola has had President Jose Eduardo dos Santos since 1979. That is, ever since Brezhnev, he has ruled the country. How quickly people turn away from Russia when you stop giving their country money.

[Hon]

Quote: VadimLives

I also think that we were treated differently in Africa ... With us, we used to mostly borrow (with forgiveness) and with Italy than they will pay ...

Well, probably a country with a GDP of more than one hundred and thirty billion dollars will find something to pay off. Tea is not poor, oil, gas, diamonds are present

[NDR-791]

“Our interest in acquiring modern technologies is based on the need to monitor coastal areas and borders to combat illegal immigration and drug trafficking,” a representative of the Angolan Navy explained to the publication.
Is it interesting to flee to Angola or from her darling? And drown gum torpedoes?
equipped with an appropriate network communication system for installation along the entire coast of the country,
To each Angolan border guard in his cell tower !!!
six helicopters (presumably AW139)
Take the seized drugs to the management without loss !!!
Finally Angola wound up money? YOU CAN SPEND !!! URAAA ...

[Hon]

Quote: NDR-791

Is it interesting to flee to Angola or from her darling? And drown gum torpedoes?

One of the richest countries in Africa, probably still run into it
And the armed forces are one of the strongest in the region, all the same, it’s not a simple relationship with South Africa, and South Africa’s army is far from weak

[NDR-791]

We teach their specialists on our own head! And those who run to Angola who need it? Angola Tse Europe ??? Probably the smartest are running. It’s warm there ... there is the sea ... And stupid ones flee to Norway! I really think such idiots.

[Hon]

Why on your own head? We have nothing to share with the Angolans

[A1L9E4K9S]

Quote: Vladimirets

Torpedoes especially need Angola.

And what did you think, Angola is looking to the future, Ukro ... is afraid of FDI, this country Limonia has changed its course, is heading to Africa. It is no longer CE Europe, it is Africa, but in connection with the latest statements by the commander of the submarine fleet, Ukrainian. ..pii, her submarine fleet will soon reach the vast oceans. So the Italian torpedoes are the most for Angola, hell knows what the maydanuts have in mind.

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

I wonder who paid the kickback to whom-Angola Italy, or vice versa-Italy Angola for pushing through contracts?

[Humpty]

Quote: Pereira

Interesting too. What did the Italians surpass us in?

Why did the widow give the pioneer, why did he and not me.

Persuaded. Damn eloquent.

[Barakuda]

And I personally drum Angola She does not solve anything there. Russia-Ukraine-Belarus, and so there are enough problems.
Although it would not hurt to "catch" .. just in case of fire ..

[A-Sim]

“Our interest in acquiring modern technology is based on the need to monitor coastal areas and borders to combat illegal immigration and drug trafficking”

torpedoes ????
Everyone has enough helicopters and boats, but did they need torpedoes?

***** how to breathe.

[made13]

In 1996, Russia wrote off $ 3,5 billion of the $ 9 billion debt of Angola. In view of the procurement not in Russia, the question is, why?

[Barakuda]

Yeltsin was a hangover. Anyway, they wouldn’t give it back .. Like Cuba, etc. And so the type of goodwill sign.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: made13

In 1996, Russia wrote off $ 3,5 billion of the $ 9 billion debt of Angola. In view of the procurement not in Russia, the question is, why?

Angola is a failed project, as is Ukraine now ... But everything can be returned, then! Russia has one goal now, it's not in vain that Western "partners" squeal ..)))

[Hon]

Angola is not a poor country, although in 96 it was in a difficult situation due to the war, but the prospects were good. It is not clear why it was necessary to write off debt. You could just delay. Probably someone rolled back for such generosity.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Hon

Angola is not a poor country, although in 96 it was in a difficult situation due to the war, but the prospects were good. It is not clear why it was necessary to write off debt. You could just delay. Probably someone rolled back for such generosity.

It’s easier to write off, though ...! I’m talking like a former bank employee) But then ..

Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.

It's a pity for Ukraine, "brothers" like, but there is nothing special to take, ALL OURS!

[Hon]

Quote: MIKHAN

It’s easier to write off, though ...! I’m talking like a former bank employee) But then ..

Why is it easier to write off debts to a country that is able to repay them?
I have a loan of about a million, I pay it without delay, but maybe the bank will write it off to me, is it easier?

And then what then?

[NDR-791]

And what did they take and have besides students in Lumumba? Indeed, the article does not say a word that Angola has already transferred money for all this happiness! BUT? Loshary Sapozhkovye is not yet aware that debtors in the desert cannot be found and caught up !!!

[Hon]

Quote: NDR-791

And what did they take and have besides students in Lumumba? Indeed, the article does not say a word that Angola has already transferred money for all this happiness! BUT? Loshary Sapozhkovye is not yet aware that debtors in the desert cannot be found and caught up !!!

You can take oil gas and diamonds, which Angola successfully trades and makes good money.

[DmitryK]

This is primitive corruption.

[minus]

I bought it, okay. There are boats, so torpedoes are needed. But why, this is not our business, they know better. It is possible that these torpedoes for such boats are just right.

[Old26]

Quote: MIKHAN

As without them, Angola ..))) The order received everything, everyone buys the NATO standard

And what for them Russian torpedoes if the Navy of Angola does not have a single Soviet-built ship. Striking forces - 4 RCAs equipped with missiles, again of French construction and NATO standard TA.

Quote: MIKHAN

No, of course, we protect them from China, but since they bought "Rafaeli" from the French ... Let them fight! If they can pick them up from the airfield in which case ... (and we will watch))))))

All the same we will not depart from imperial manners. But for a quarter of a century there has been no USSR, but we all dream of it in categories
What for us to protect India from China? And most importantly, what? Delivering hundreds of aircraft?
We ourselves are to blame for the fact that they do not buy from us. And the same India on the same frigates and aircraft carriers "burned out" when Russia changed the terms and prices. And we still continue to believe that we should buy exclusively from us. And they don't buy. They try to have different suppliers

Quote: Hon

Angola is not a poor country, although in 96 it was in a difficult situation due to the war, but the prospects were good. It is not clear why it was necessary to write off debt. You could just delay. Probably someone rolled back for such generosity.

Maybe not poor, but refused to buy 6 Brazilian patrol ships, citing the difficult financial situation

[koshmarik]

In any case, until the end of the 90s, the Angolan Navy was equipped with Russian equipment and was based on the infrastructure created by Russian specialists. The staff was trained in Soviet universities. Our advisers and specialists worked in the fleet. Therefore, the decision of the Angolan government to rely on Italians is not entirely clear, because everything needs to be broken and re-created. I think something is wrong here. In addition, our military-industrial complex takes the 2nd place in the world both in the quality of weapons and in its sales.

[Evgeny Khokhlov]

When we already understand that gratuitous aid and debt cancellation to all "banana" republics does not bring us fruit