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Angola ordered weapons in Italy for € 212 million

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Angola has signed a package of contracts with the Italian concern Finmeccanica for the purchase of military equipment and ammunition, the blog reports bmpd with reference to the resource www.girodivite.it.


Angola ordered weapons in Italy for € 212 million
324-mm torpedo Whitehead A244SM

According to the resource, the contract worth € 212,3 million implies the supply of the Angolan Defense Ministry "coastal monitoring radar centers equipped with an appropriate network communication system to install six helicopters (presumably AW139) and some 324-mm anti-submarine torpedoes A244S along the entire coast of the country equipment of Angolan boats ".

In addition, the concern has pledged to train Angolan military specialists.

Arms purchase is part of the program to modernize the Navy to 2017 g, adopted by the Angolan government.

“Our interest in acquiring modern technologies is based on the need to monitor coastal areas and borders to combat illegal immigration and drug trafficking,” a representative of the Angolan Navy explained to the publication.
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  1. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 28 January 2016 17: 09
    +3
    Why not with us? It seemed to me Italian specialists in pasta and pizza ... and then look at ... modern radar centers ... not khukhra-mukhra smile
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 28 January 2016 17: 10
      +2
      Interesting too. What did the Italians surpass us in?
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 28 January 2016 17: 22
        +3
        Probably veiled veiled credit card! Corruption - it is in Africa - CORRUPTION! laughing
        1. Hon
          Hon 28 January 2016 17: 47
          -1
          Quote: Baikonur
          Probably veiled veiled credit card! Corruption - it is in Africa - CORRUPTION!

          Angola itself can give a loan
      2. forest park 86
        forest park 86 28 January 2016 17: 31
        -3
        did not rely on kickbacks.
    2. Linkor9s21
      Linkor9s21 28 January 2016 17: 11
      -3
      If they need radars, then definitely it was necessary to order from Russia.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 28 January 2016 17: 15
        +3
        Quote: Linkor9s21
        If they need radars, then definitely it was necessary to order from Russia.

        Why "unambiguously"? Italians also supplied radars to the Indians.
        1. Linkor9s21
          Linkor9s21 28 January 2016 20: 20
          0
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: Linkor9s21
          If they need radars, then definitely it was necessary to order from Russia.

          Why "unambiguously"? Italians also supplied radars to the Indians.

          Well, if the Italians have better radar, then Russia is not in this life to compete with NATO.
          1. just exp
            just exp 28 January 2016 21: 10
            +2
            Fiats are not cooler than BMW and Volkswagen, but someone else buys them.
          2. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 28 January 2016 22: 52
            +1
            Quote: Linkor9s21
            Well, if the Italians have better radar, then Russia is not in this life to compete with NATO.

            What does it have to do with steeper or not cooler, Italian radars are quite competitive, if they pour shit on us now, what will become easier?
      2. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 28 January 2016 17: 26
        0
        Maybe smoked bans them?
    3. Primus pilus
      Primus pilus 28 January 2016 17: 12
      0
      That is why it is not with us, in a pile we helped them healthy.
      1. asiat_61
        asiat_61 28 January 2016 19: 58
        0
        Debts were forgiven. Although Angola can very well pay off its debts.
    4. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 28 January 2016 17: 15
      +6
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Why not with us?

      They are afraid ... The USA is in debt and everyone is obliged to purchase NATO standards! They are holding an African flag in their hands ... hi
      1. Hon
        Hon 28 January 2016 18: 26
        0
        Obama for Russia as Putin for Ukraine. Our mentality is clearly similar
    5. NDR-791
      NDR-791 28 January 2016 17: 24
      0
      For decades of free deliveries from the Union of everything and all the Angolans realized that our equipment for them, like all of Russia, is too ... in everything ... especially in the brain! You look and we will release them. Patrice Lumumba from all sorts of bongo-bongos in favor of those who really need ???
      1. Hon
        Hon 28 January 2016 17: 33
        -3
        Quote: NDR-791
        For decades of free deliveries from the Union of everything and all the Angolans realized that our equipment for them, like all of Russia, is too ... in everything ... especially in the brain! You look and we will release them. Patrice Lumumba from all sorts of bongo-bongos in favor of those who really need ???

        why were the supplies free?
    6. Horst78
      Horst78 28 January 2016 17: 25
      +3
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      It seemed to me Italian specialists in pasta and pizza ... and then look at ... modern radar centers.

      In general, the Italian military industry is at a very high level of development.
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 28 January 2016 19: 24
        0
        I have heard about the Roman Empire, but I have not heard about "Italian industry at a very high level of development". fellow
        1. Horst78
          Horst78 28 January 2016 19: 50
          0
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          I have heard about the Roman Empire, but I have not heard about "Italian industry at a very high level of development". fellow

          Problems with the information? Yandex to help you hi And so "whistle" is the lot of shkoloty (no offense. Take an interest in their developments in the field of air defense, naval forces, artillery systems, etc.)
        2. Hon
          Hon 28 January 2016 19: 56
          0
          Didn’t you hear about Italian cars too?
      2. The comment was deleted.
    7. corporal
      corporal 28 January 2016 17: 25
      +3
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Why not with us?

      Two options are available:

      1- Value for money satisfied in the Italian offer
      2- We cannot offer products with the required performance characteristics. We simply do not have them.
      1. hartlend
        hartlend 28 January 2016 18: 15
        +1
        The third option is the political aspect.
        1. LÄRZ
          LÄRZ 28 January 2016 20: 41
          +2
          Quote: hartlend
          The third option is the political aspect.

          The fourth option is previously signed secret secret agreements / protocols / pacts / etc.
    8. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 28 January 2016 17: 47
      +4
      "It seemed to me the Italian specialists in pasta and pizza ..."

      What kind of snobbery? This is not a distinguishing feature of an officer!
      Don't remember "Otomat"? And from whom did we buy the leader of "Tashkent"?
      Everything regarding the warm sea, the Italian will work. After all, no one requires sledge hammer resistance, reliability in extreme sports, maintainability. Here we are.
      But to choose a suitable candy wrapper, this is not about us. Or maybe someone yawned.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 28 January 2016 19: 38
        +2
        Yes, and for a second, Ferrari-Maseratti-Bugatti ... so everything with the mechanics is normal! laughing
        1. Horst78
          Horst78 28 January 2016 19: 51
          +1
          Quote: marlin1203
          Yes, and for a second, Ferrari-Maseratti-Bugatti ... so everything with the mechanics is normal! laughing

          Yes, and FIAT Chrysler crushed wassat
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 28 January 2016 17: 10
    +4
    "a number of 324-mm anti-submarine torpedoes A244S, to equip Angolan boats" "

    Torpedoes especially need Angola.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 28 January 2016 17: 20
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "a number of 324-mm anti-submarine torpedoes A244S, to equip Angolan boats" "

      Torpedoes especially need Angola.

      As without them, Angola ..))) The order received everything, everyone buys the NATO standard! Russia alone goes its own way ...
      1. Hon
        Hon 28 January 2016 17: 36
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        As without them, Angola ..))) The order received everything, everyone buys the NATO standard! Russia alone goes its own way ...

        that is, when they buy ours, it’s right and honest, if they buy weapons from someone from NATO, then this is a mess.
        Is India also buying in a random order?
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 28 January 2016 18: 12
          +1
          Quote: Hon
          Quote: MIKHAN
          As without them, Angola ..))) The order received everything, everyone buys the NATO standard! Russia alone goes its own way ...

          that is, when they buy ours, it’s right and honest, if they buy weapons from someone from NATO, then this is a mess.
          Is India also buying in a random order?

          India, Angola and so on. ..not they have a procurement system! They buy everything that glitters and is expensive .. I'm talking about it! hi We in Russia would also be able to buy imported weapons (for parades))) We need a simple, our own and reliable real war (they will climb again soon ..) These are the things in the tank and missile forces .. wink
          1. Hon
            Hon 28 January 2016 18: 27
            0
            That is, India is buying our equipment, because it is beautiful and expensive?
            1. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 28 January 2016 18: 48
              +1
              Quote: Hon
              That is, India is buying our equipment, because it is beautiful and expensive?

              No, of course, we protect them from China, but since they bought "Rafaeli" from the French ... Let them fight! If they can pick them up from the airfield in which case ... (and we will watch))))))
              1. Hon
                Hon 28 January 2016 20: 00
                0
                Quote: MIKHAN

                No, of course, we protect them from China, but since they bought "Rafaeli" from the French ... Let them fight! If they can pick them up from the airfield in which case ... (and we will observe

                And how is it that we protect them from China? If their army is not weaker than the Chinese, in the sixties they were able to pile on them. The presence of nuclear weapons in both countries reduces the likelihood of armed conflict to zero. In addition, both BRICS member countries probably do not really need our protection.
    2. Hon
      Hon 28 January 2016 17: 38
      -1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Torpedoes especially need Angola.

      if there is a navy then torpedoes are obviously needed
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 28 January 2016 17: 55
        +2
        Angolans also take 12 dryers on orders from Washington? Angola is not under colonial rule and is not a member of military blocs. I even suspect that weapons are bought for their performance characteristics and reasonable prices. - Citizen Obama had time to put his bony hand everywhere. And when does he manage to do everything? laughing
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 28 January 2016 17: 56
        0
        Quote: Hon
        if there is a navy then torpedoes are obviously needed

        Honestly, even Google did not help to know which torpedoes go to the Angola Navy boats.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 28 January 2016 18: 09
          +5
          Torpedoes will go on Israeli boats ordered by Angola. It is precisely this caliber that can be installed on them.
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 28 January 2016 18: 16
            0
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            Torpedoes will go on Israeli boats ordered by Angola.

            In the photo there is an Israeli boat without torpedo tubes, but does Angola have them?
            1. Hon
              Hon 28 January 2016 18: 28
              -1
              Angola has an army comparable to South Africa
              1. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 28 January 2016 18: 39
                0
                They said that Angola ordered 4 of these patrol boats. And there is a possibility in wartime to install a torpedo tube of this caliber on them. I think that "wartime" will come for them from the very beginning of operation.
        2. Hon
          Hon 28 January 2016 18: 47
          0
          On the Internet in general, extremely scarce information about Angola
  3. The black
    The black 28 January 2016 17: 11
    +1
    Quote: Pereira
    Interesting too. What did the Italians surpass us in?

    spears and bows do good laughing
    1. Hon
      Hon 28 January 2016 17: 50
      +5
      Quote: Black
      spears and bows do good

      and when you see the name of an African country, you immediately imagine the natives?
      it looks like they have not only spears and bows
      1. The black
        The black 28 January 2016 18: 11
        +1
        and you think that this picture is just "the truth of life" laughing.... do not tell me what kind of city this is in Africa in the photo? wink
        1. Hon
          Hon 28 January 2016 18: 25
          +3
          Luanda in the photo. Do you think that with a GDP of 130 billion, they hang on trees there?
  4. Jan2016
    Jan2016 28 January 2016 17: 15
    0
    Even strange as it used to be, Angola was purchased in the USSR and then in Russia. In my opinion, they still have Mi-24 and Mi-28, not to mention the Kalashnikovs in the army.
  5. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 28 January 2016 17: 17
    0
    hi I also think that we were treated differently in Africa ... With us, we used to mostly borrow (with forgiveness) and with Italy than they will pay ... hi
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 28 January 2016 17: 21
      +1
      Quote: VadimLives
      I also think that we were treated differently in Africa ... With us, we used to mostly borrow (with forgiveness) and with Italy than they will pay ...

      Especially when you consider that Angola has had President Jose Eduardo dos Santos since 1979. That is, ever since Brezhnev, he has ruled the country. How quickly people turn away from Russia when you stop giving their country money.
    2. Hon
      Hon 28 January 2016 17: 43
      0
      Quote: VadimLives
      I also think that we were treated differently in Africa ... With us, we used to mostly borrow (with forgiveness) and with Italy than they will pay ...

      Well, probably a country with a GDP of more than one hundred and thirty billion dollars will find something to pay off. Tea is not poor, oil, gas, diamonds are present
  6. NDR-791
    NDR-791 28 January 2016 17: 18
    0
    “Our interest in acquiring modern technologies is based on the need to monitor coastal areas and borders to combat illegal immigration and drug trafficking,” a representative of the Angolan Navy explained to the publication.
    Is it interesting to flee to Angola or from her darling? And drown gum torpedoes?
    equipped with an appropriate network communication system for installation along the entire coast of the country,
    To each Angolan border guard in his cell tower !!!
    six helicopters (presumably AW139)
    Take the seized drugs to the management without loss !!!
    Finally Angola wound up money? YOU CAN SPEND !!! URAAA ...
    1. Hon
      Hon 28 January 2016 17: 46
      +1
      Quote: NDR-791
      Is it interesting to flee to Angola or from her darling? And drown gum torpedoes?

      One of the richest countries in Africa, probably still run into it
      And the armed forces are one of the strongest in the region, all the same, it’s not a simple relationship with South Africa, and South Africa’s army is far from weak
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 28 January 2016 18: 13
        -2
        We teach their specialists on our own head! And those who run to Angola who need it? Angola Tse Europe ??? Probably the smartest are running. It’s warm there ... there is the sea ... And stupid ones flee to Norway! I really think such idiots.
        1. Hon
          Hon 28 January 2016 18: 40
          0
          Why on your own head? We have nothing to share with the Angolans
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  7. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 28 January 2016 17: 22
    +1
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Torpedoes especially need Angola.


    And what did you think, Angola is looking to the future, Ukro ... is afraid of FDI, this country Limonia has changed its course, is heading to Africa. It is no longer CE Europe, it is Africa, but in connection with the latest statements by the commander of the submarine fleet, Ukrainian. ..pii, her submarine fleet will soon reach the vast oceans. So the Italian torpedoes are the most for Angola, hell knows what the maydanuts have in mind.
  8. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 28 January 2016 17: 25
    0
    I wonder who paid the kickback to whom-Angola Italy, or vice versa-Italy Angola for pushing through contracts?
  9. Humpty
    Humpty 28 January 2016 17: 30
    +2
    Quote: Pereira
    Interesting too. What did the Italians surpass us in?

    Why did the widow give the pioneer, why did he and not me.

    Persuaded. Damn eloquent.
  10. Barakuda
    Barakuda 28 January 2016 17: 35
    0
    And I personally drum Angola winked She does not solve anything there. Russia-Ukraine-Belarus, and so there are enough problems.
    Although it would not hurt to "catch" .. just in case of fire .. what
  11. A-Sim
    A-Sim 28 January 2016 17: 35
    +2
    “Our interest in acquiring modern technology is based on the need to monitor coastal areas and borders to combat illegal immigration and drug trafficking”

    torpedoes ????
    Everyone has enough helicopters and boats, but did they need torpedoes?

    ***** how to breathe.
  12. made13
    made13 28 January 2016 17: 36
    +1
    In 1996, Russia wrote off $ 3,5 billion of the $ 9 billion debt of Angola. In view of the procurement not in Russia, the question is, why?
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 28 January 2016 17: 42
      +1
      Yeltsin was a hangover. wink Anyway, they wouldn’t give it back .. Like Cuba, etc. And so the type of goodwill sign.
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 28 January 2016 18: 19
      +1
      Quote: made13
      In 1996, Russia wrote off $ 3,5 billion of the $ 9 billion debt of Angola. In view of the procurement not in Russia, the question is, why?

      Angola is a failed project, as is Ukraine now ... But everything can be returned, then! Russia has one goal now, it's not in vain that Western "partners" squeal ..))) angry
      1. Hon
        Hon 28 January 2016 18: 43
        +1
        Angola is not a poor country, although in 96 it was in a difficult situation due to the war, but the prospects were good. It is not clear why it was necessary to write off debt. You could just delay. Probably someone rolled back for such generosity.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 28 January 2016 20: 09
          +1
          Quote: Hon
          Angola is not a poor country, although in 96 it was in a difficult situation due to the war, but the prospects were good. It is not clear why it was necessary to write off debt. You could just delay. Probably someone rolled back for such generosity.

          It’s easier to write off, though ...! I’m talking like a former bank employee) But then ..
          Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.

          It's a pity for Ukraine, "brothers" like, but there is nothing special to take, ALL OURS!
          1. Hon
            Hon 28 January 2016 20: 17
            0
            Quote: MIKHAN
            It’s easier to write off, though ...! I’m talking like a former bank employee) But then ..

            Why is it easier to write off debts to a country that is able to repay them?
            I have a loan of about a million, I pay it without delay, but maybe the bank will write it off to me, is it easier?

            And then what then?
    3. NDR-791
      NDR-791 28 January 2016 18: 20
      0
      And what did they take and have besides students in Lumumba? Indeed, the article does not say a word that Angola has already transferred money for all this happiness! BUT? Loshary Sapozhkovye is not yet aware that debtors in the desert cannot be found and caught up !!!laughing
      1. Hon
        Hon 28 January 2016 18: 45
        +1
        Quote: NDR-791
        And what did they take and have besides students in Lumumba? Indeed, the article does not say a word that Angola has already transferred money for all this happiness! BUT? Loshary Sapozhkovye is not yet aware that debtors in the desert cannot be found and caught up !!!

        You can take oil gas and diamonds, which Angola successfully trades and makes good money.
  13. DmitryK
    DmitryK 28 January 2016 18: 54
    0
    This is primitive corruption.
  14. minus
    minus 28 January 2016 19: 10
    0
    I bought it, okay. There are boats, so torpedoes are needed. But why, this is not our business, they know better. It is possible that these torpedoes for such boats are just right.
  15. Old26
    Old26 28 January 2016 22: 42
    0
    Quote: MIKHAN
    As without them, Angola ..))) The order received everything, everyone buys the NATO standard

    And what for them Russian torpedoes if the Navy of Angola does not have a single Soviet-built ship. Striking forces - 4 RCAs equipped with missiles, again of French construction and NATO standard TA.

    Quote: MIKHAN
    No, of course, we protect them from China, but since they bought "Rafaeli" from the French ... Let them fight! If they can pick them up from the airfield in which case ... (and we will watch))))))

    All the same we will not depart from imperial manners. But for a quarter of a century there has been no USSR, but we all dream of it in categories
    What for us to protect India from China? And most importantly, what? Delivering hundreds of aircraft?
    We ourselves are to blame for the fact that they do not buy from us. And the same India on the same frigates and aircraft carriers "burned out" when Russia changed the terms and prices. And we still continue to believe that we should buy exclusively from us. And they don't buy. They try to have different suppliers

    Quote: Hon
    Angola is not a poor country, although in 96 it was in a difficult situation due to the war, but the prospects were good. It is not clear why it was necessary to write off debt. You could just delay. Probably someone rolled back for such generosity.

    Maybe not poor, but refused to buy 6 Brazilian patrol ships, citing the difficult financial situation
  16. koshmarik
    koshmarik 29 January 2016 11: 55
    +1
    In any case, until the end of the 90s, the Angolan Navy was equipped with Russian equipment and was based on the infrastructure created by Russian specialists. The staff was trained in Soviet universities. Our advisers and specialists worked in the fleet. Therefore, the decision of the Angolan government to rely on Italians is not entirely clear, because everything needs to be broken and re-created. I think something is wrong here. In addition, our military-industrial complex takes the 2nd place in the world both in the quality of weapons and in its sales.
  17. Evgeny Khokhlov
    Evgeny Khokhlov 29 January 2016 16: 51
    0
    When we already understand that gratuitous aid and debt cancellation to all "banana" republics does not bring us fruit