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The dollar, the ruble, the barrel and Putin - not a "good"?

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Well, dear readers, the ruble and the barrel is down, the dollar is up, and the number of shouts of "shit!" also went down dramatically. And if you carefully read your comments on some articles, you get the full impression that many suddenly saw the light.


The dollar, the ruble, the barrel and Putin - not a "good"?


And having come to their sight, they understood that Putin, as they say in common people, is "not a cake."

Well, it will be rewarded to everyone according to his deeds and thoughts, as was said in one clever book. But how about the fact that "do not judge, you will not be judged"?

Ay, patriots ... I can not remember how happy it was "Krymnash" and "VsehporemvSyrii." Reverently joyful and uniform. Sometimes nauseous.

But even now, I confess, sometimes he sweats. What all became smart and understand the essence of things. Every second you can go to the government, he will fix everything there. Why then? Life has become more difficult? And a year and a half ago, when smart people said that the Crimea just would not let us go, did not move anything? And when in Syria began with the Turks? What is so sad now, huh?

I will not quote anyone, unlike my colleagues, there’s no need. Everybody sees everything. But against the fact that Putin has promised something to some and has not fulfilled it, forgive me, I will not pass by. And by saying that Putin was allegedly guilty of success, and Russia's external enemies are in failure.

Excuse me, what do you want to get in return for your whining? What manna from heaven? And the most important question: why, actually, the president? Ah, yes, the guarantor of the Constitution ... Correct, if not right, where in the Constitution the price of a dollar in rubles is spelled out? Or barrels of oil? Searched, not found. Apparently, I was looking bad.

Well, of course, when there is someone to blame for all sins. Especially if the object of the prosecution is not yourself. Sumptuously. You chose, again, you understand, Putin, and again he is not a paradise for everyone and, in particular, for everyone. Totally worthless president. And the government is one of his zradnik. And all against the people of Russia every day work tirelessly.

Clearly need to change something. What, dear patriots, it's time to go to Maidan? Or to the Swamp?

Why? We will gather together with a formidable force, we will go out onto a place and declare a ganny to all Russian citizens. And the people will appoint other good. In accordance with the principles of democracy. Well, as in Ukraine. And we will have everything fine in the future for many years. Want to? Forward!

And if without jerking and malice, then forgive me, but in what is happening today, everyone yesterday put his hand to it. Yesterday is when the elections were. Let's take a little serious look at the situation.

Bad Medvedev and his government? Yes, I agree. Is bad. And Ulyukaev, and Nabiullina, and a bunch of others. Surely there is smarter, and more honest, and more professional. I don’t even try to judge and criticize, because everyone thinks he is a strategist, seeing the fight from the sidelines. But since my personal level of education does not really allow me to assess the professional suitability of the same Nabiullina, and I judge solely on her statements on the TV, I personally have no options for replacing.

But where did it come from, the best director of the Central Bank in the world in the English version?

That's right, Medvedev planted. Who is Medvedev appointed chairman? Right, Putin. That is, Putin is to blame. But there is a small "but." A little bit of excerpts from the text of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. 110-117 articles, if specifically.

"The Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation is appointed by the President of the Russian Federation with the consent of the State Duma.

A proposal on the candidacy of the Prime Minister is made to the State Duma no later than two weeks after taking office of the newly elected President of the Russian Federation or after the resignation of the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, or within a week from the date of rejection of the previous candidacy by the State Duma.

The State Duma considers the candidacy of the chairman of the government submitted by the President of the Russian Federation within a week from the date of the proposal on the candidature.

After a threefold rejection of the nominations of the Prime Minister by the State Duma, the President of the Russian Federation appoints the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, dissolves the State Duma and appoints new elections. "


And now the question is: did our Duma know that Medvedev was nothing? After his tenure as president? Yes, the whole country was in the know. Someone heard that Medvedev's candidacy was rejecting or provoking protests? Personally, I do not remember. Accepted.

By the way, the other day the same Duma rejected the initiative to remove from the post of Minister of the Executioner Education Livanov. Even the agenda did not bring the issue, so rejected. Let, say, a person works.

And behind our Duma many similar feats can be counted.

It turns out that in the State Duma also sit? Which together with Medvedev and Putin. It turns out so.

But sorry, they came to the Duma from Bolotnaya or something, after the popular elections in the square? It seems not. It's like our chosen ones. Elected during a popular election. You, dear readers. And me, yes.

So it turns out that bad man Putin pushed bad people to posts in the government, and our people's elected representatives are violet? No, maybe I am categorically wrong, and every second deputy was bought there, and every first deputy was frightened with a cruel death. Out of savings. It is doubtful. In terms of the second paragraph.

So, our chosen ones from the same berry field with Putin and Medvedev? And what then orem and cry? What are the claims?

Claims only to voters. I can voice, because during my life I skated 12 elections, and I am very aware of everything that is happening in this boiler. Who, how and whom to choose. And for how much.

I apologize in advance that part of the readers who voted with their heads. There are such, I know. Who did not ask the agitators: "How much?" The most common question: how much will the applicant for a vote unfasten. Or what he undertakes to do for a particular house, porch, street. Who did not take absentee ballots, and did not go to Tmutarakan, because they were told to do this at work. And then how, the authorities ordered ... and we need to feed the family, to lose the job in any way. And I watched these caravans more than once.

What is interesting is how such people later condemned the residents of Donbass for inertia. That all as one did not rise and did not go into battle. And yourself? I specifically promoted the turnout for the last elections in my region. From 37 to 43 percent. Every second stayed at home and did not deign to tear off the sofa from the sofa. And what do you want after this? What kind of gingerbread do you need? You yourself create all the conditions for every crook to use it.

And then on the same couch we lie and ache, they say how bad everything is. And we are looking for the guilty. And, which is the coolest, we find. Putin's I applaud.

An oil painting: a part of our absolutely inert and very corrupt electorate whines that the deputies she chose and the ministers appointed by the deputies are swindlers and muddle.

Well, what the electorate is and the government. Sign, as they say, in receipt. Moreover, for all his okolephepatatskaya and just civic activities, he never heard such that the voters would recall their deputy. This nafig nobody needs. They voted, snatched - and burn it all with fire. Until the next election.

Do you know when things will get better? And then, when every citizen (by definition, not by passport) will treat his civic duties as workers. And choose not a wallet, but your head. Then the deputies (who would still cut their somewhat inflated salaries once in 100) would think not about the reimbursement of their election expenses, but about the country. As it was in the USSR, when they chose what they deserved, and not if possible to pay for the campaign. Then it will be better. And even then not immediately. But there will be.

Well, since such a layout, which they themselves drew, so at least do not whine.
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  1. Wedmak
    Wedmak 28 January 2016 10: 32
    169
    Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is, I see them once a year and then on TV. And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 28 January 2016 10: 38
      -65 qualifying.
      Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad. If it was produced in Russia - then yes, do not care for the dollar.
      1. ferdiperdozzz
        ferdiperdozzz 28 January 2016 10: 39
        93
        "Almost everything" is a highly controversial statement.
        If you are not talking about iPhones of course.
        1. fn111
          fn111 28 January 2016 10: 53
          14
          Yes, and those needs in the yuan dominate)
          1. Darkmor
            Darkmor 28 January 2016 11: 11
            53
            Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad.

            You are very mistaken.
            If everything was directly tied to the dollar, then our prices would already have jumped 3 times.
            Even for fully imported goods, prices rose, but not so much.
            And all because importers are forced to dump prices for their goods in order not to lose their market share.
            Those. for buyers, of course, the goods are becoming more expensive - but the producer accounts for the bulk of the costs, because he cuts his own profit (or even works at zero).

            In the modern world, to increase the production of most goods to any volumes is not a problem. The problem is then to sell this product.
            Therefore, large manufacturers will go to any tricks in order to, despite the fall of the ruble, leave the market behind.
            If necessary, they will transfer the plants to us. If it is cheaper, they will hire our workers and buy our own raw materials. If everything is very bad, they will convert their own ruble revenue not into dollars, but into commodity barter.
            1. Blondy
              Blondy 28 January 2016 11: 26
              +8
              Yes, in about two and a half to two times, and increased by drug products
              and essentials. Well, and how to live a city-old pennsionerka
              for seven thousand pensions (and probably the majority), which you have to pay for the apartment, ride a bus a couple of times a day and eat three times a day, not even talking about any medications, treat your sore sores.
              1. Temples
                Temples 28 January 2016 11: 45
                33
                Where did you get that sad ???
                What all have become smart and understanding the essence of things ...
                What is it all of a sudden? Is life harder?
                And a year and a half ago, when smart people said that Crimea would not be allowed to come to us for nothing, nothing moved? And when did the Turks begin in Syria?
                What is now so sad, huh?


                Everything is great!
                This is not sarcasm or "urya".
                This is a specific URA !!!
                Or are you counting on several lives?
                So life is one and there is no room for despondency in it.
                And Crimea URA! And Army URA!
                But Erdogan needs to be driven from Russian land.

                and Putin Hurray! for the fact that there is willpower in him, and for the fact that many remembered where they were born.

                There are many good things in life.
                Life is not so long as to spend time on drooling and snot.

                And there have always been a majority of smart people in Russia. And inquisitive God did not offend us. And the inventors of the sea.
                So I'm glad that I live in Russia.
                Everything is great !!!
                1. Boos
                  Boos 28 January 2016 11: 57
                  +4
                  Erdogan on Russian soil?) I have not heard any positive about Russian from Putin, in his understanding there are "dear Russians, population and taxpayers." The clumsy attempt to whitewash Putin led to the opposite effect, the article's rating states.
                  1. woron333444
                    woron333444 28 January 2016 13: 50
                    +3
                    This does not state the rating of the article, but simply shows that so far everything is fine - we are patriots, and when it squeezed a little and immediately "everything was gone."
                    1. Kent0001
                      Kent0001 28 January 2016 15: 23
                      +8
                      Recently I heard that pessimists are learning Chinese and English, and optimists are using a Kalashnikov assault rifle. I will say to myself that I am an optimist.
                      1. severniy
                        severniy 28 January 2016 16: 17
                        +1
                        Roma is still a tempter, plus an article, but on the verge ... on the verge .....
                      2. tomket
                        tomket 30 January 2016 00: 25
                        0
                        Quote: severniy
                        Roma is still a tempter, plus an article, but on the verge ... on the verge .....

                        The author smeared it like this. I remembered the good old years, when all the speakers there with "people were not lucky." here and here the same. Putin us both this and that, and we turn up our ungrateful nose. You see, the jump in prices does not suit us and we do not want to tighten our belts for a long time.
                    2. region58
                      region58 28 January 2016 17: 31
                      +4
                      Quote: Kent0001
                      pessimists learn Chinese and English, and optimists device Kalashnikov

                      An optimist teaches English, a pessimist teaches Chinese, and a realist teaches a Kalashnikov assault rifle.
                  2. znorick
                    znorick 28 January 2016 16: 15
                    10
                    This does not state the rating of the article, but simply shows that so far everything is fine - we are patriots, and when it squeezed a little and immediately "everything was gone."


                    This shows the attitude of people to power in the first place. Who else is power besides Putin? Dear Dmitry Anatolyevich or Aifonovich, beloved by all, Comrade Livanov from the Ministry of Destruction of Education, Comrade Ulyukaev from the Ministry of Economic Destruction, Comrade Golodets with a speaking surname - curator of the healthcare system, of course, the liberals are proud of Nabiullina - the head of the office serving speculators and many others! Let me remind you of Mr. Downshifter-Gref - among other things, he is the head of the main savings bank of Russia - until now!

                    People were fed up with listening to fairy tales from the so-called "statesmen", they got the lies and hypocrisy of politicians, they got traitors in power!

                    This shows that people don’t give a damn about their homeland, that they haven’t been completely brainwashed, and they perfectly see that the gentlemen from the Kremlin have them publicly.
                  3. Homo
                    Homo 28 January 2016 17: 30
                    +8
                    Quote: woron333444
                    we are patriots, and when a little pressed and immediately "everything was gone."

                    Do not speak for everyone, speak for yourself!
                    1. alecsis69
                      alecsis69 28 January 2016 21: 55
                      +1
                      I speak for myself. I did not evaluate the article, although I did not like it. I’m not screaming. I never took money for a voice, but by the way, no one offered. And about Nabiulina, Putin first proposed Glazyev, but the thought rejected.
                    2. znorick
                      znorick 28 January 2016 23: 28
                      +2
                      Quote: alecsis69
                      And about Nabiulina, Putin first proposed Glazyev, but the thought rejected.


                      And who represents the Duma? Is it not a party of crooks and thieves, cynically appropriating the name "United Russia"?
                    3. ferdiperdozzz
                      ferdiperdozzz 30 January 2016 03: 47
                      -1
                      Well, I'm just a member of the party. About "crooks and thieves" everyone thinks that Bulk has come up with - are you at the same time with him?
                  4. linadherent
                    linadherent 1 February 2016 07: 03
                    0
                    Quote: alecsis69
                    I speak for myself. I did not evaluate the article, although I did not like it. I’m not screaming. I never took money for a voice, but by the way, no one offered. And about Nabiulina, Putin first proposed Glazyev, but the thought rejected

                    Yes, that's just the point, 99% of the inhabitants of Russia, no one has ever offered money for a vote ... Personally, I always vote for the Liberal Democratic Party and I have no idea how to manage the state, so I’m not getting into experts. The price of the dollar is not very worrying the last time I saw it during the default ... hi
            2. KaPToC
              KaPToC 28 January 2016 14: 51
              0
              Erdogan in Russian Earth
              1. KaPToC
                KaPToC 28 January 2016 23: 35
                0
                Quote: KaPToC
                Erdogan on Russian Earth

                Ha minus put, who is there with an atrophied sense of humor?
                1. ferdiperdozzz
                  ferdiperdozzz 30 January 2016 03: 47
                  0
                  a large percentage.
          2. Inok10
            Inok10 28 January 2016 12: 21
            23
            Quote: Temples
            And there have always been a majority of smart people in Russia. And inquisitive God did not offend us. And the inventors of the sea.
            So I'm glad that I live in Russia.

            ... absolutely right .. hi .. what with regards to drugs .. I don’t remember who I pulled it off, but it was definitely in the VC .. imported drugs and our analogs with prices:
            Nurofen (120rub) and Ibuprofen (10rub)
            Mezim (300rub) and Pancreatin (30rub)
            But-spa (150rub) and Drotaverina hydrochloride (30rub)
            Panadol (50rub) and Paracetamol (5rub)
            Belosalik (380rub) and Acriderm SK (40rub)
            Bepanthen (250rub) and Dexpanthenol (100rub)
            Betaserk (600rub) and Betagistin (250rub)
            Bystrumgel (180rub) and Ketoprofen (60rub)
            Voltaren (300rub) and Diclofenac (40rub)
            Gastrozole (120rub) and Omeprazole (50rub)
            Detraleks (580rub) and Venarus (300rub)
            Diflucan (400rub) and Fluconazole (30rub)
            Fornos (100) and Rhinostop (30)
            Zantak (280rub) and Ranitidine (30rub)
            Zirtek (220rub) and Cetirinax (80rub)
            Zovirax (240rub) and Acyclovir (40rub)
            Immunal (200rub) and Echinacea extract (50rub)
            Imodium (300) and Loperamide (20 rub)
            Yodomarin (220rub) and Potassium iodide (100rub)
            Cavinton (580rub) and Vinpocetine (200rub)
            Klaritin (180rub) and Loragexal (60rub)
            Clathid (600rub) and Clarithromycin (180rub)
            Lazolvan (320rub) and Ambroxol (20rub)
            Lamisil (400rub) and Terbinafine (100rub)
            Lyoton — 1000 (350 rubles) and Heparin — acrigel 1000 (120 rubles)
            Lomilan (150rub) and Loragexal (50rub)
            Maxidex (120rub) and Dexamethasone (40rub)
            Midratsil (360rub) and Tropicamide (120rub)
            Miramistin (200rub) and Chlorhexidine (10rub)
            Movalis (410rub) and Meloksikam (80rub)
            Neuromultivitis (250rub) and Pentovit (50rub)
            Normodipine (620rub) and Amlodipine (40rub)
            Omez (180) and Omeprazole (50)
            Panangin (140rub) and Asparks (10rub)
            Pantogam (350rub) and Pantokaltsin (230rub)
            Rinonorm (50rub) and Rhinostop (20rub)
            Sumamed (450rub) and Azithromycin (90rub)
            Trental (200rub) and Pentoxifylline (50rub)
            Trichopol (90rub) and Metronidazole (10rub)
            Troxevasin (220rub) and Troxerutin (110rub)
            Ultop (270rub) and Omeprazole (50rub)
            Fastum — gel (250 rubles) and Ketoprofen (70 rubles)
            Finlepsin (280rub) and Carbamazepine (50rub)
            Fluxostat (200rub) and Fluconazole (20rub)
            Furamag (380rub) and Furagin (40rub)
            Hemomycin (300rub) and Azithromycin (100rub)
            Enap (150) and Enalapril (70rub)
            Ersefuril (400rub) and Furazolidone (40rub)
            .. clearly ?! .. hi
            1. Former
              Former 28 January 2016 12: 34
              +8
              There is ...
              But there are also "nuances" (if the prices do not "catch" me yet, thank God, I earn normally)
              After he was ill with hepatitis during military service in the Soviet Army, he earned cholecystitis.

              The best medicine, alas, is Geptral (France, it seems), but since the "effective managers" bought a non-working water purification unit for our field, healthy people suffer from the liver.
              So you have to "throw away" a certain amount.

              After a microstroke, which I suffered 14 years ago, my blood pressure started to jump, I had to sit on the "wheels".
              I drink every day, otherwise- kirdyk (if you're lucky) in the worst case ..... (I even want to think e)

              The tablets are imported, 635 rubles a month (garbage, in general), but they say that imported ones are "softer".

              Of course, maybe the doctors will "nightmare" me (although there is a familiar doctor, my Kent, who pulled me out of the other world once on a watch, saying - don't you dare to switch to a domestic analogue!), But I am a little bit off to switch to a domestic one .. ...
              - I repeat - death is not the worst.

              Well, the wife earned asthma at the Chemical Plant (occupational disease), and there is liver damage.
              And also uses "import"
              So it's not so simple ...
              1. atalef
                atalef 28 January 2016 13: 14
                +3
                Quote: sherp2015
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence! I retired this year, I get 14 thousand

                200 bucks /
                Impressive. more precisely, this is not impressive, but the fact that the bulk of people ask - why is it so big?
                1. woron333444
                  woron333444 28 January 2016 13: 52
                  +3
                  I have the same and do not whine that everything was gone.
                2. atalef
                  atalef 28 January 2016 13: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: woron333444
                  I have the same and do not whine that everything was gone.

                  well, not all, just a year ago it was 500 bucks.
                  300 flew away, 200 left .... bye
                3. Koshak
                  Koshak 28 January 2016 14: 33
                  12
                  Quote: atalef
                  a year ago it was 500 bucks.
                  300 flew away, 200 left .... bye

                  And why again translate into bucks? Pensioners that greens are calculated in stores? Something I did not notice such. You need to look at the purchasing power of the ruble, and it fell by 30 percent, and according to your panic arithmetic, it turns out that the pension was reduced by more than half.
                  The dollar exchange rate has overcome an important psychological mark - "EVERYONE CARE HOW MUCH IT COST"
                4. znorick
                  znorick 28 January 2016 16: 34
                  +3
                  Quote: Koshak
                  The dollar exchange rate has overcome an important psychological mark - "EVERYONE CARE HOW MUCH IT COST"


                  There is some truth in this, I agree. But you do not take into account how important the dollar exchange rate is for enterprises - you do not understand this! And it is important for several reasons.

                  First: machine tools! Most of the fleet of modern machine tools is of foreign manufacture. They need to be serviced, you need to buy new ones - for bucks! Tell me the way out for enterprises in the real sector, what should they do? Just do not need songs about import substitution - it is really only in the minds of Medvedev and Putin, in fact, with such a loan rate, import substitution is NOT POSSIBLE! Therefore, we move on to the second point.
                  Secondly, a large number of enterprises in the real sector have foreign currency loans in foreign banks. They were forced to take a loan there, because The BET IS BELOW, and many Russian state-owned banks refuse credit to small and medium enterprises. How to be? After devaluation, how to pay for foreign currency loans?

                  Are they to blame for the fact that during the 15 years of high oil prices, the authorities did not exert the slightest effort to create a competitive economy? They are not to blame, but pay them.

                  Russia got off the oil needle and sat on the oil stake! This is what the financial and economic authorities of Russia have done for 15 years. And who leads and covers them? That's right - the popularly elected.

                  I do not call for a revolution. Just turn on the brain, finally!
                5. korvin1976
                  korvin1976 28 January 2016 17: 56
                  +6
                  I work with some enterprises, and you won’t believe, in 2015 who changed many of these enterprises, old machines to new ones, who installed automatic machines to replace working hands. Moreover, 90% of these machines Western bought for dollars. That is, enterprises were not scared by the price of these machines.
                  Moreover, in such an economic situation, it is not at all advisable to install machine tools that replace people. Machine tools are becoming more expensive, salaries, and, accordingly, staff costs are not increasing.
                  Many enterprises carried out modernization of production in 2015, of those with whom I work almost all. And yes, import substitution had a direct impact on this, normal enterprises go to increase costs, in order to justify these costs later by their readiness to receive orders. As an example: Novomoskovsky Aerosol increased its production in 2015 by 87%, and plans to open new production lines and increase production by another 60% in 2016. And this is only one of the enterprises I work with, while others have about the same indicators, as they say, plus or minus. A competent manager of the enterprise sees the picture as a whole and in the long term. But all sorts of managers live only momentary profit.
                6. mark2
                  mark2 28 January 2016 18: 03
                  -1
                  znorick




                  Most of the fleet of modern machine tools is of foreign manufacture. They need to be serviced, you need to buy new ones - for bucks! Tell me the way out for enterprises in the real sector, what should they do?


                  To think how to make machines with these machines that you don’t have to buy abroad. but no one knows how to think. What is a modern engineer? This is a person who is designed to find the necessary equipment or unit and adjust. Imported preferably. About the fact that in Russia, with a good search, you can find something that will help to create something that is so lacking in production. There is no way to buy a Russian machine? There are only imported analogues, but expensive? And sit and think about how you can make of what is what you need.
                  Not always possible, but in some cases completely.

                  a large number of enterprises in the real sector have foreign currency loans in foreign banks. They were forced to take a loan there, because RATE BELOW


                  No need to take! what's the question? You understand that enterprises that take loans work only for loans. they do not have funds for development. Constantly have to lend and refinance.

                  Are they to blame for the fact that during the 15 years of high oil prices, the authorities did not exert the slightest effort to create a competitive economy? They are not to blame, but pay them.


                  What does power have to do with it? Why, with all their imported miracle machines, ultra-cheap Western loans, which they are now unable to repay, why couldn’t they launch competitive products on the market?

                  With all the delights of technological advances in certain areas of science and technology, Russia has enormous costs. At high costs, no competitive environment can help.
                7. znorick
                  znorick 28 January 2016 23: 25
                  +3
                  Quote: mark2
                  With all the delights of technological advances in certain areas of science and technology, Russia has enormous costs. At high costs, no competitive environment can help.


                  The most powerful cost-creating factor in Russia is the overly corrupt bureaucracy. It’s worth cutting it for the most ya..tsa. In second place is the arbitrariness of monopolies. They constantly pick up tariffs, and no one punishes them for this - i.e. it turns out the norm for the Russian Federation. Another factor is the worn-out infrastructure; liberals have raped it for 25 years. And the development of infrastructure (not counting the connection and the Internet) is the competence of the state, and not business in the first place. Another significant factor is the liberal ideology in the minds of the Kremlin authorities.

                  Quote: mark2
                  What does power have to do with it? Why, with all their imported miracle machines, ultra-cheap Western loans, which they are now unable to repay, why couldn’t they launch competitive products on the market?

                  Well, the authorities, as always, have nothing to do with it - is it true, Dmitry Ayfonovich?
                8. ferdiperdozzz
                  ferdiperdozzz 30 January 2016 03: 56
                  -1
                  Change Russia in your story to any other country - even the United States - and you will be right again.
          3. alex86
            alex86 28 January 2016 21: 30
            +2
            Quote: Koshak
            that the pension was reduced more than twice.

            The pension remained, but you can buy half as much.
        2. alex86
          alex86 28 January 2016 21: 29
          -1
          An interesting pension, I have 8500 - it's 100 bucks
        3. ferdiperdozzz
          ferdiperdozzz 30 January 2016 03: 57
          -1
          Already 110%)
          I wonder why no one yells that they say "the ruble won 10 rubles per dollar in a week" - is it not interesting to yell?
        4. atalef
          atalef 30 January 2016 05: 05
          +2
          Quote: ferdiperdozzz
          Already 110%)
          I wonder why no one yells that they say "the ruble won 10 rubles per dollar in a week" - is it not interesting to yell?

          Because it’s not won the ruble, it’s won the oil
  2. Amur_tiger
    Amur_tiger 28 January 2016 14: 27
    10
    Dear, do not confuse sour with a long one ... If pensioners received their pension here and spent it there, such a "fall" would have sad consequences. But ... When the dollar was 30 each, my rent was 2100 rubles, i.e. 70 tanks, now the dollar is 70, and the rent is 2200 rubles, i.e. slightly more than 30 tanks. Thus, prices in Russia DECLINE TWICE (if you use your dollar calculator), and this is good news. It all depends not only on the point of view of the subject, but also on the chosen method of analysis and the scale of measurement ("And in parrots, I am much longer!" (C) Boa constrictor)
  3. weis223
    weis223 28 January 2016 14: 36
    0
    Do not argue with him - the colonel general knows best))))
  4. Kuzyakin15
    Kuzyakin15 28 January 2016 18: 24
    +2
    Quote: weis223
    Do not argue with him - the colonel general knows best))))

    And you want to say that you won with the fall of the ruble in half?
    Those. your income has quadrupled, right?
  5. alex86
    alex86 28 January 2016 21: 35
    +1
    When the dollar was 30 - my rent was 3200, now it is 5500, my pension remained the same - 8500 (I’m lying, I’ve got 700 more rubles), my salary fell by half - because my work was halved ...
  • Saratoga833
    Saratoga833 28 January 2016 18: 26
    +2
    If in the countries of the Middle East you can get a bullet in the forehead for a fake or low-quality drug, or at least lose a license, then this is not punished in our country! So we are treated with all sorts of shit!
  • mihasik
    mihasik 28 January 2016 12: 41
    +5
    Quote: Inok10
    .. clearly ?! ..

    Not really!
    Some fellow citizens (for example, several tens of millions) are not suitable or do not act positively, the cheap components of the women who are delivered to our country from Asia.
    Sorry, accustomed to the components of the originals. So to say, the dose is no longer valid). And the originals prices are sky-high! How did you confirm this.
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 28 January 2016 12: 54
      +3
      Quote: mihasik
      So to say, the dose is no longer valid). And the originals prices are sky-high! How did you confirm this.

      .. with regard to the dose .. this is addiction to the drug .. and most of the drugs listed are not copies of, the originalsdeveloped even in the USSR .. the same pancreatin .. the boy was ill with pancreatitis so in the year 1978 .. they were treated with it .. hi
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 28 January 2016 13: 52
        +2
        Quote: Inok10
        . with regards to the dose .. this is addiction to the drug .. and most of the drugs listed are not copies, but the originals developed back in the USSR .. the same pancreatin

        I would argue about the "majority"!
        Yes, not all women, but indiscriminately 95 percent! And they "transplanted the people into addiction", not without the help of our doctors (nobody canceled kickbacks from pharmacists), and our pharmaceutical industry after the "revolutionary transformations of the 90s" is "lying." The situation with 1978 is not correct. The food was natural, the rivers and the air were clean, i.e. the ecological situation is not equal to the current one! Naturally, the human immune system was "slightly" different from the current one! For the current situation, the drugs should be different, but they are imported. Something like this.
        Remember how it happened with domestic tobacco factories. Remained domestic?) The Americans bought everything except one: "Rostov-Tabak" Mr. Savidi, and that is because there was a very strong "support" from Greece. So it is with pharmaceutical companies.
      2. atalef
        atalef 28 January 2016 13: 57
        +2
        Quote: mihasik
        The situation since 1978 is not correct. The food was natural, the rivers and air were clean, i.e. ecological situation is not equal to the present!

        and life expectancy is lower, how do you explain?
        Most of all I like these stories, in Africa everything is natural, but they live up to 35-40 years.
      3. mihasik
        mihasik 28 January 2016 15: 15
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: mihasik
        The situation since 1978 is not correct. The food was natural, the rivers and air were clean, i.e. ecological situation is not equal to the present!

        and life expectancy is lower, how do you explain?
        Most of all I like these stories, in Africa everything is natural, but they live up to 35-40 years.

        My grandfather got married for the last 3rd time in 91 years! He lived in a farm, Krasnodar Territory. His name was Illarion Ivanovich Well, a participant in the Second World War. Do you call this "lower life expectancy"? laughing laughing laughing
        True, he did not survive the "Changes of the 90s" ((Maybe because we took him to "civilization" (to the city)?
      4. Homo
        Homo 28 January 2016 17: 36
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        everything is natural in Africa, but they live up to 35-40 years.

        Still, this "natural" was in abundance!
      5. Vadim237
        Vadim237 28 January 2016 18: 11
        -1
        They will not have anything in abundance in Africa - because lazy people actually live in a garbage dump.
  • Inok10
    Inok10 28 January 2016 14: 04
    +2
    Quote: mihasik
    The food was natural, the rivers and the air were clean, i.e. the ecological situation is not equal to the current one! Naturally, the human immune system was "slightly" different from the current one! For the current situation, the drugs should be different, but they are imported. Something like this.
    Remember how it happened with domestic tobacco factories. Remained domestic?) The Americans bought everything except one: "Rostov-Tabak" Mr. Savidi, and that is because there was a very strong "support" from Greece. So it is with pharmaceutical companies.

    .. well, so everyone wanted a restructuring .. chewing gum and jeans .. the result is on the face .. why are we moaning now ?! .. laughing
  • Inok10
    Inok10 28 January 2016 14: 09
    +4
    Quote: Inok10
    .. result on the face ..

    . hi .
  • mihasik
    mihasik 28 January 2016 14: 44
    +2
    Quote: Inok10
    well, so everyone wanted a restructuring .. chewing gum and jeans .. the result is on the face .. why are we moaning now ?! ..

    And who is aching?
    I ate gum and jeans back in Soviet times fellow
    And "Russian Maidan of the 90s" categorically did not support it. Yes, changes were needed, but now I would call them the Chinese version. But whoever tried to convince the angry crowd with stunned eyes?
    So it turned out like Chernomyrdin: "We wanted the best, but it turned out ..."
  • Inok10
    Inok10 28 January 2016 15: 02
    +4
    Quote: mihasik
    And "Russian Maidan of the 90s" categorically did not support it. Yes, changes were needed, but now I would call them the Chinese version. But whoever tried to convince the angry crowd with stunned eyes?

    .. similarly looked like idiots even though he was still green .. well, here I had a chance to talk to the crowd in Riga at 91m when the rich Latvians were disconnected .. and drive them from parts and warehouses .. an effective thing is removing the AK fuse .. instantly agility passes .. laughing
    Quote: weis223
    The point here is not addiction and doses. In the above list (it is far from complete), the active substance is exactly the same (the difference can only be in the fillers and packaging). They hung noodles on our ears with aggressive advertising that behind the hill it’s getting better and more effective (although we don’t really have many drugs), we smear it with zovirax, not knowing about acyclavir

    ... absolutely true .. German clotrimazole 200 rub., ours and Indian 60 rub. .. same .. hi
  • weis223
    weis223 28 January 2016 14: 46
    +2
    The point here is not addiction and doses. In the above list (it is far from complete), the active substance is exactly the same (the difference can only be in the fillers and packaging). They hung noodles on our ears with aggressive advertising that behind the hill it’s getting better and more effective (although we don’t really have many drugs), we smear it with zovirax, not knowing about acyclavir
  • bif
    bif 28 January 2016 16: 42
    +1
    Quote: weis223
    The point here is not addiction and doses. In the above list (it is far from complete), the active substance is exactly the same (the difference can only be in the fillers and packaging). They hung noodles on our ears with aggressive advertising that behind the hill it’s getting better and more effective (although we don’t really have many drugs), we smear it with zovirax, not knowing about acyclavir

    You cannot row all the preparations under one comb. Let's just say that drugs are prophylactic and supportive in nature (these most often require a long and constant intake), it is allowed to replace them with a domestic or cheaper generic ... But drugs for the treatment of life-threatening and acute conditions RECOMMENDED to use the original drug or European generic ...
    Differences of generics from the original drug formally in fillers, their qualitative and quantitative composition determines the frequency and severity of ADVERSE EFFECTS. If we talk about domestic preparations, then after 90's in factories the situation is the same as in the army - NO RECEPTION .... Therefore, there can be no ACTIVE SUBSTANCE in a preparation for 50 rub of domestic production, only filler in the form of ordinary chalk, I myself know such cases.
  • Homo
    Homo 28 January 2016 17: 43
    0
    Quote: bif
    But drugs for the treatment of life-threatening and acute conditions, it is RECOMMENDED to use the original drug or the European generic ...

    Do you want to announce the statistics of the connection of doctors (prescribers) with pharmacies? She will not be in your crawl! An example from personal experience - the doctor prescribed Buscopan (250 rubles) not No-Shpa (150 rubles) and even more so not Drotaverin (15 rubles). Why???
  • korvin1976
    korvin1976 28 January 2016 19: 09
    +1
    Inok10]. The situation with 1978 is not correct. The food was natural, the rivers and the air were clean, i.e. the ecological situation is not equal to the current one! Naturally, the human immune system was "slightly" different from the current one! For the current situation, the drugs should be different, but they are imported.
    Yes, yes, yes, and the grass was greener, and the sky bluer, and the girls more beautiful, and we ourselves were completely different.
    And the fact that I have one of the largest chemical associations in my country, the Chemical Plant is certainly one of the largest, and it is only half of all the city’s enterprises, and then the ecology was certainly better, pure ammonia, periods of colorfully colored nitrogen oxides, completely rarely chlorine spreads on the ground with the same green grass and the other delights of that ecology. You approach the city from the north-east, from a hill, and over the city there is such a black ecology, lightning is not enough. It was really possible to show photographs in the river, all in one bottle and the developer and fixer. And that’s the matter now, not of any ecology, no ammonia for you, no all kinds of oxides, chlorine is only in bleach, it’s completely trouble, life is simply not possible.
    And children are all born sick now. Previously, how was it? Leg tone? Yes, no big deal, do a massage at home, and don’t bother with stupid things. And now? Legs in good shape? OH this is a pathology. Not standing on legs? Yes this is pathology, muscles are not well developed. What did he just open his eyes? Yes, it can’t be like that, it's all a pathology.
  • bif
    bif 28 January 2016 16: 18
    0
    Quote: Inok10
    with regards to the dose .. this is addiction to the drug .. and most of the medicines listed are not copies, but the originals developed back in the USSR .. the same pancreatin .. he had pancreatitis as a kid, so in the year 1978 .. he was treated with it ..

    1. There were no licensing and patents in the USSR ... so it's useless to speak and compare with modern Western drugs.
    2. Comparing 1978 and 2016 is also not correct. Example, in the 40-50's, with severe forms of pneumonia or sepsis, ADULT was introduced 10.ED penicillin 2-4 once a day (40.t IU per day), and now CHILDREN are administered 6 million units 4 once a day (24 000t.U per day) to help with meningococcal infection.
  • Oorfene Deuce
    Oorfene Deuce 28 January 2016 15: 38
    +3
    Quote: Inok10
    clearly ?! .

    Unfortunately, the indicated figures for a number of domestic medicines doubled at least. But still cheaper.
  • severniy
    severniy 28 January 2016 16: 20
    +2
    . clearly

    and then go through the pharmacies and ask the second column from the list ...
    production is dead, and there’s no reason for pharmacies to sell cheap, so here’s a list of this-filkin letter.
    with u ...
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 28 January 2016 16: 37
      +2
      Quote: severniy
      and then go through the pharmacies and ask the second column from the list ...

      .. and, mom didn’t teach that lying is not good? .. pancreatin in any Kaliningrad pharmacy .. just called a pharmacist friend ..
      Latin name: Pancreatin
      ATX Code: A09AA02
      Active ingredient: Pancreatinum (Pancreatinum)
      Producer: STI-MED-SORB, Valenta Pharmaceutics, AVVA-RUS, Irbitsky Chemical Farm, Biosynthesis OJSC, Aveksima OJSC, Pharmproekt, Russia; PJSC “Lekhim”, PJSC “Vitamins”, Ukraine
      and the screen just typed in the search .. laughing
  • alex86
    alex86 28 January 2016 21: 25
    0
    Thank you very much for the list.
  • ferdiperdozzz
    ferdiperdozzz 30 January 2016 03: 50
    0
    Idiocy. Compare also Valtrex and Acyclovir, it is better on yourself - be surprised how the same thing works differently.
  • SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 28 January 2016 12: 10
    +4
    Quote: Blondy
    for seven thousand pensions (and probably the majority), which you have to pay for the apartment, ride a bus a couple of times a day and eat three times a day, not even talking about any medications, treat your sore sores.

    No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence! This year I retired, I get 14 thousand. Most of the grandmothers I know have more pension than mine, and even more so for 70-year-olds. Transport is free of charge. If the pension is small, then the pensioner is entitled to a subsidy to pay housing and communal services. Of course, it turns out a completely different calico, if the grandmother in the apartment still has someone registered, then she loses privileges.
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 28 January 2016 12: 26
      +6
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence!

      ... the calculations about the jumped prices for basic products are especially striking, for some they have risen in price by 2-3 times .. well, if in "Victoria" pork shoulder - 380 rubles. .. it’s probably easier to go to the market and buy for 270 rubles. .. prices of Kaliningrad .. hi
    2. sherp2015
      sherp2015 28 January 2016 12: 42
      +2
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence! This year I retired, I get 14 thousand. Most of the grandmothers I know have more pension than mine, and even more so for 70-year-olds. Transport is free of charge. If the pension is small, then the pensioner is entitled to a subsidy to pay housing and communal services. Of course, it turns out a completely different calico, if the grandmother in the apartment still has someone registered, then she loses privileges.


      Probably not everywhere the same.
      Over 30 years of experience and a pension of 6500. with a coefficient of 1,6
      1. woron333444
        woron333444 28 January 2016 13: 55
        +1
        A terrible lie. I have a coefficient of 1,2 and a pension of 14150
        1. Kuzyakin15
          Kuzyakin15 28 January 2016 14: 01
          0
          And here it seems you are lying.
          Why, I do not expect.
          Once again WHERE, IN WHICH REGIONS at retirement, such accruals?
        2. sherp2015
          sherp2015 28 January 2016 18: 51
          0
          Quote: woron333444
          woron333444 Today, 13:55 ↑
          A terrible lie. I have a coefficient of 1,2 and a pension of 14150


          Hear the "crow" watch the broom. If I tell you that the pension was assigned 6500 with a coefficient of 1,6, then I am responsible for my words.
          I had to fight and correspond with the PF for over a year, they said that in our republic, more than 1.2 were not allowed. Well, and I yes, not Chernobyl. Those receive 40-60 thousand.
          1. woron333444
            woron333444 28 January 2016 23: 47
            +1
            My salary was large, but they said that they would not give more than the average for Russia with a coefficient of 1,2.
      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 28 January 2016 14: 07
        +1
        Quote: sherp2015
        Over 30 years of experience and a pension of 6500. with a coefficient of 1,6

        What the hell? The minimum pension is 8100 - 8700. Or do you live in some other Russia?
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 28 January 2016 18: 54
          +1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          What the hell? The minimum pension is 8100 - 8700. Or do you live in some other Russia?


          Are you a businessman
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Lies!!!


          Romanov, but I did not expect rudeness from you. I thought you were better.
          Once again I say 6500. I am from one republic of the North Caucasus Federal District. But not Chechnya, everything is covered in chocolate.
        2. Hon
          Hon 28 January 2016 19: 01
          +1
          5965 minimal
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 January 2016 14: 39
        -2
        Quote: sherp2015
        Over 30 years of experience and a pension of 6500. with a coefficient of 1,6

        Lies!!!
    3. Kuzyakin15
      Kuzyakin15 28 January 2016 12: 53
      +4
      SRC P15:
      ENLIGHTEN PLEASE WHERE DOES SUCH A RETIREMENT ARE GIVEN WHEN EXITING A RETIREMENT?
      I only crawled up to 14 thousand after 12 years.
      In what areas is such a pension accrued?
      1. woron333444
        woron333444 28 January 2016 13: 57
        +1
        Probably it was necessary to work, and the pension is calculated from income for 2000-2001
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 28 January 2016 18: 58
          0
          Quote: woron333444
          Probably it was necessary to work, and the pension is calculated from income for 2000-2001


          I think he worked no less than yours. But just from 2000 to 2005, during my work in one organization, the experience was, as it were, to put it mildly, "blurred" by my immediate supervisor.
      2. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 28 January 2016 14: 00
        +1
        Quote: Kuzyakin15
        In what areas is such a pension accrued?

        I live on the edge of the Moscow region. 40 years of experience, I continue to work, and not whine, that the pension is small. By the way, since 2000 on the 3rd group of disability. With retirement, I was transferred to a retirement pension, benefits remained. Moreover: I received about 12 thousand for a pension (at the very end).
        1. Kuzyakin15
          Kuzyakin15 28 January 2016 14: 21
          +6
          SRC P-15:
          I also work. And as I wrote, he is 12 years old. And 34 years of special harm (asbestos production, if anyone knows what it is). And I worked and do not work as an OTC controller, this is according to the average salary. But something up to 14t. got in 12 years.
          Last year, a retired work colleague left — 10 were not counted. More than 18 years of pure harmfulness.
          Even if they leave on a common basis at 60, I don’t know anyone who accrued more than 11 thousand. With experience more than 40 years.
          So there is no need to go out about average pensions for more than 13 thousand, especially postmen.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 28 January 2016 14: 40
            -1
            Quote: Kuzyakin15
            So there is no need to go out about average pensions for more than 13 thousand, especially postmen.

            My wife works at the post office - a pension of 11 thousand with "kopecks".
          2. sherp2015
            sherp2015 28 January 2016 19: 01
            0
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            My wife works at the post office - a pension of 11 thousand with "kopecks".


            Who do you work as a "hard worker", didn't you say?
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 28 January 2016 15: 01
          +1
          But I don’t at all hope for retirement, I try, to the best of my ability and ability, to make a start for a calm old age, if it comes, if there is nobody to blame and whine and blame, I haven’t been paying the PFR and medical staff for several years now, that's all equal to zero sense.
      3. sherp2015
        sherp2015 28 January 2016 19: 00
        0
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        I live on the edge of the Moscow region. 40 years of experience, I continue to work, and not whine, that the pension is small. By the way, since 2000 on the 3rd group of disability.


        I would like to hear who you work with with such an experience "hardworking" you are OUR.
        I am sure that a businessman or some engineering
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 January 2016 07: 15
      0
      Quote: Kuzyakin15
      ENLIGHTEN PLEASE WHERE DOES SUCH A RETIREMENT ARE GIVEN WHEN EXITING A RETIREMENT?

      On the Far East pension and more. Still questions will be?
  • woron333444
    woron333444 28 January 2016 13: 54
    +1
    I have some subsidies 830r
  • Yaqen
    Yaqen 28 January 2016 12: 41
    +3
    What kind of Russia do you live in? I am sitting on a fully imported medicine - called Lodoz. Rose. At 1,5 compared to 2013. So do not lie.
  • Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 28 January 2016 12: 50
    +1
    Quote: Blondy
    Well, and how to live a city-old pennsionerka
    on seven thousand pensions (and such, probably, most)

    What? The average pension in Russia is 13700 rubles. My sister works as a postman, and, of course, carries out the pension too. I ask: "How much is the average pension at your site" - "Somewhere 15000". At the same time, her salary is 11000. So it is not known who lives well in Russia.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 January 2016 18: 17
      -1
      In Russia, it is good to live well for those who are engaged in their own business and do not expect "handouts" from the state.
      1. Hon
        Hon 28 January 2016 19: 17
        +2
        It is advisable not to pay taxes to the state either. So in fairness
  • KaPToC
    KaPToC 28 January 2016 14: 49
    -2
    Why has the "old pensioner" not acquired her own home in her entire life? Then there would be no need to pay for the apartment. I have never met a pensioner living in a rented apartment in my life.
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 28 January 2016 18: 38
      +2
      And housing and communal services do not count, or pensioners do not need to pay?
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 28 January 2016 23: 34
        0
        Quote: Koshak
        And housing and communal services do not count, or pensioners do not need to pay?

        I have a big family and ALL utility bills WINTER 3000 rubles. And what are the utility costs of a pensioner? Five refrigerators light guzzle? Heats an apartment of five hundred squares? Maybe watering a garden of five hectares?
        The only overwhelming expense for senior citizens is medicines - but this is inevitable because old age has not yet been won.
        1. Hon
          Hon 29 January 2016 13: 48
          0
          Quote: KaPToC
          I have a big family and ALL utility bills WINTER 3000 rubles. And what are the utility costs of a pensioner? Five refrigerators light guzzle? Heats an apartment of five hundred squares? Maybe watering a garden of five hectares?
          The only overwhelming expense for senior citizens is medicines - but this is inevitable because old age has not yet been won.

          Rates for a communal apartment depend on the region, somewhere in Moscow there is money for subsidies, and somewhere residents have to save
  • Homo
    Homo 28 January 2016 17: 29
    +1
    Quote: Blondy
    Well, and how to live a city-old pennsionerka
    for seven thousand pensions (and probably the majority), which you have to pay for the apartment, ride a bus a couple of times a day and eat three times a day, not even talking about any medications, treat your sore sores.

    You have not entirely correct information about "old women pensioners", about their lives, expenses, needs!
  • KVS
    KVS 28 January 2016 23: 58
    0
    and about high prices for products - these are questions for retailers !!!
    after checking the prosecutor’s office, as they say in some media, it was found that these bad traders make a wrap on some goods from 100 to 700% !!!!!!!
    when the state establishes the maximum ceiling for the wrapping of goods, then the price tags for many goods will be adequate !!!!!!
  • iConst
    iConst 28 January 2016 11: 47
    +7
    Quote: Darkmor
    You are very mistaken.
    If everything was directly tied to the dollar, then our prices would already have jumped 3 times.
    Even for fully imported goods, prices rose, but not so much.
    And all because importers are forced to dump prices for their goods in order not to lose their market share.
    Those. for buyers, of course, the goods are becoming more expensive - but the producer accounts for the bulk of the costs, because he cuts his own profit (or even works at zero).
    - Prices have already jumped almost three times. There is only some delay - let's wait a bit.
    I bought CDs for my wife for tax reports - it costs 75 rubles, a year ago (one disk was left with a glued price tag on the box) - 29 rubles. But! A year ago they already managed to rise in price.

    Regarding "holding" the market - rest assured. They will compensate for this. With a profit, then.

    Quote: ferdiperdozzz
    "Almost everything" is a highly controversial statement.
    If you are not talking about iPhones of course.
    - Well enough already this rotten stamp "about iPhones".
    And that Alcatel did not rise in price? Or Samsung? Or call a domestic manufacturer? The only (and even that screwdriver) Explay flippers have already wrapped.
    Communication will rise in price - reptile providers do not want to buy domestic GSM equipment (for those who do not understand, it simply does not exist). We will refuse from cellular?

    All household appliances - stoves, washers, irons (b ... t!) All from behind the hill!

    Quote: Wedmak
    Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is ...
    - And my neighbor doesn’t care. The salary of about 12 thousand. The loafer kicked out. Two on hand.

    Now, clever Witcher, tell me why "domestic" products (meat, bread, cereals, milk, vegetables, sugar) have risen in price by 20-50%?
    I'm not even talking about "delicacies" such as bell peppers.

    And why should this people not care? Maybe because there is a small category of people who are well settled with salaries of 100+ thousand rubles?

    Please give me an economic scenario for my question. I think the rest will be interesting.
    1. just exp
      just exp 28 January 2016 11: 52
      +1
      so the bulk of the products went up by 20-50 percent or 2-3 times?
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    2. Scoun
      Scoun 28 January 2016 12: 28
      +3
      Quote: iConst
      I bought CDs for my wife for tax reports - it costs 75 rubles,

      Honestly, where is it on CD? we don’t sell them at all ... they just don’t exist! All with flash drives.
      Quote: iConst
      All household appliances - stoves, washers, irons (b ... t!) All from behind the hill!

      Data on the localization of production from 2010 on washing machines (similar for refrigerators and stoves)
      The top three also included LG Electronics Rus (LG) and Beko. [4]
      [edit] Indesit
      Brand washing machines Indesit and Hotpoint-Ariston are manufactured in Lipetsk. [5]
      Indesit has created an industrial cluster for the production of components for refrigerators and washing machines, these are 12 satellite enterprises with 6,5 thousand employees. [6]
      [edit] LG
      Plant LG is located in Ruza (Moscow region). [7]
      [edit] Beko
      Brand washing machines Beko are produced in Kirzhach (Vladimir region). [8]
      Beko factory in Russia produces 600 thousand washing machines per year. [9]
      [edit] Bosch
      In Strelna (St. Petersburg) there is a full-cycle plant for the production of machines under the brands Bosch and Siemens.
      Production capacity - 350 thousand washing machines per year. The plant belongs to the company BSH household appliances (Russian subsidiary Bosch und Siemens Hausgerate). [10] [11] [12]
      The plant was opened in mid-2012. Investments in it amounted to 1,2 billion rubles, another 800 million was invested in the expansion of the logistics complex. [13]
      The localization level of washing machine production at the plant is almost 40%. In May 2014, BSH CEO Hans-Kersten Hrubesh announced that the company wants to bring the localization level to 60-70% within three years.[14]
      [edit] Vestel
      Vestel washing machines are produced in Kirzhach (Vladimir region). [15]
      Vestel produces 600 thousand washing machines a year in Russia. [16]
      At the plant in Kirzhach there are three stages (input, internal and final) and two levels (selective and 100%) of control. Purchased components and components manufactured by the plant pass selective acceptance control and 100% inspection during assembly. The collected product is subjected to 100% functional control on the assembly line and selective control by the laboratory. [17]
      [edit] Candy
      Candy cars are produced at the Kirov plant. [18]
      Part of the parts for the machines produced is purchased from Russian manufacturers. Guillaume Aba, marketing director, said this in an interview. Candy Hoover Group Russia: “Many parts of washing machines are purchased in the same region where the factory is located. This means that we use many Russian components at the Kirov plant. ”[19]
      1. sherp2015
        sherp2015 28 January 2016 12: 45
        +1
        Quote: Scoun
        Russia: “Many parts of washing machines are purchased in the same region where the factory is located. This means that we use many Russian components at the Kirov plant. ”[19]


        It’s time to use 100% of its components
      2. iConst
        iConst 28 January 2016 13: 07
        -2
        Quote: Scoun
        Quote: iConst
        I bought CDs for my wife for tax reports - it costs 75 rubles,

        Honestly, where is it on CD? we don’t sell them at all ... they just don’t exist! All with flash drives.
        - In St. Petersburg. Give a flash drive - it will be too greasy.

        Quote: Scoun
        Quote: iConst
        All household appliances - stoves, washers, irons (b ... t!) All from behind the hill!

        Production Localization Data from 2010 years for washing machines (similar for refrigerators and stoves)
        - Ohhhh ... Better look at the statistics now. Two big differences.

        Quote: Scoun
        The top three also included LG Electronics Rus (LG) and Beko. [4]
        [edit] Indesit
        Brand washing machines Indesit and Hotpoint-Ariston are manufactured in Lipetsk

        .....

        In Strelna (St. Petersburg) there is a full-cycle plant for the production of machines under the brands Bosch and Siemens. ....
        - What is a full cycle? LIES!

        Screwdriver technology. As an everywhere. Everywhere the law is broken that at least 50% of the components must be of domestic production. And if and which ones are used - again, from imported raw materials, etc.

        Haha ... They close their eyes to this - otherwise the plants need to be closed.

        And now the main summary: based on everything that happens (25 years already), two conclusions can be drawn:

        - the Russian people do not know how / do not want / are not able to do business, work and all that jazz.
        or
        - the government is not able / unwilling / incapable create normal conditions for the prosperity of business in Russia.

        It seems to me that the second reason is more probable.
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 28 January 2016 13: 47
          +1
          Quote: iConst
          - In St. Petersburg. Give a flash drive - it will be too greasy.

          I went to the accounting department and asked how our shipments ...
          Ours have been sending and doing everything online for a long time.
          So the endangered discs in price are from the reluctance of the management to buy an accounting "package", and you shouldn't complain about discs in this case.
          Quote: iConst
          - What is a full cycle? LIES!

          Screwdriver technology. As an everywhere. Everywhere the law is broken that at least 50% of the components must be of domestic production.

          Literally an hour ago I swore with our designer))) and that's what "surfaced".
          By the end of 2014, the main export vector of Russian high-tech products was sent to the CIS countries, which accounted for over 30% of the total export of high-tech products. In 2015, it is logical to expect an increase in the share of these countries in the volume of domestic exports due to the presence of foreign trade sanctions by Western partners.

          and another 70% where did it go?
          and what kind of high-tech is it? )))
          http://www.rusexporter.ru/news/detail/3317/
          1. iConst
            iConst 28 January 2016 14: 00
            +5
            Quote: Scoun
            and what kind of high-tech is it? )))

            - Not certainly in that way. I do not argue that there are enterprises producing high-tech products.

            You did not carefully read or understand the vector: the question is how these products are produced. From what and on what.

            And the second question: yes, what is it and where does 70% of this production go besides the CIS?

            And one more thing: if you take away the RD-180 from your link - how many of these products will remain? smile

            Summary: tears anyway. What is available is rather in spite of than "because of".

            And for a country like Russia to have 99% of enterprises for the production of standard "household goods" with monkey conveyors is a shame.
        2. mark2
          mark2 28 January 2016 14: 29
          +4
          Everywhere the law is broken that at least 50% of the components must be of domestic production. And if and which ones are used - again, from imported raw materials, etc.


          Don't like that Bosch is not 100% domestic production? buy a domestic washing machine "baby" "Vyatka". Support the domestic manufacturer!
        3. region58
          region58 28 January 2016 16: 09
          +2
          Quote: iConst
          Give a flash drive - it will be too greasy.

          Sorry, why give it away for good? Information was considered - immediately returned. Or from a paper report, the barcode was read by the scanner and that's it. Minute affair. So it is with us.
          Py.Sy. I speak for SP. Maybe of course with large enterprises differently.
      3. lis-ik
        lis-ik 28 January 2016 15: 03
        0
        LG factory is located in the city of Ruza (Moscow region). [7
        I have been giving cottages there for a long time, the LG factory did not meet, maybe I did not pay attention?
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      5. Hon
        Hon 28 January 2016 19: 46
        0
        About two weeks ago, the data in the UBEP was given on a CD. What media do you offer? On a flash drive? Every time a flash drive is expensive then.
    3. Inok10
      Inok10 28 January 2016 12: 31
      +4
      Quote: iConst
      I bought CDs for my wife for tax reports - it costs 75 rubles, a year ago (one disk was left with a glued price tag on the box) - 29 rubles. But! A year ago they already managed to rise in price.

      .. and, the prices of vegetables, butter, milk, bread are no more important ?! .. hi
    4. woron333444
      woron333444 28 January 2016 13: 59
      +1
      Computer hardware is 100% import, and so the prices are.
    5. mark2
      mark2 28 January 2016 14: 23
      +4
      Please give me an economic scenario for my question. I think the rest will be interesting.


      Yes, the layout is simple. Why do you want a salary increase? Because prices are up, right? Correctly.
      Why have the prices gone up? Because, in fact, among those who set prices, the salary fell in dollar terms. They don't want to shrink. "Let this" rabble "tighten their belts, but we, boyars, are not supposed to be in terms of status."
      Then many of our "locomotives" of the economy, Rosneft, Gazprom, Lukoy, NLMK, with colossal profits, took loans in the West. Should I give it back? It is necessary. They buy up currency in order to give it away, which leads to an increase in the bite in part, and they were also cut off, as they say, from lending. Therefore, they are trying to make up for their unjustified cost overruns at the expense of the domestic market. God forbid, they keep the prices for their products.

      So much for the rise in food prices.
      We humans are trying to combine our limitless greed and greed with social justice. And this is by no means compatible.
  • sherp2015
    sherp2015 28 January 2016 12: 08
    0
    Quote: Darkmor
    If necessary, they will transfer the plants to us. If it is cheaper, they will hire our workers and buy our own raw materials. If everything is very bad, they will convert their own ruble revenue not into dollars, but into commodity barter.


    It would be good ...
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 28 January 2016 12: 09
    +4
    And what is it all about dollars settled? Mr. Ulyukaev reported to Putin the day before yesterday that people were used to dollar fluctuations, and didn’t care much how much they cost. So, you have to sit quietly and sniff in two holes.
  • mark2
    mark2 28 January 2016 14: 04
    +8
    You are very mistaken.


    Dear thinking people! To articles of this kind, which link our standard of living with sanctions, the Crimea and Turkey. This is ordinary trolling.
    We received sanctions for the Crimea only in the field of deliveries of industrial goods: machine tools, technologies. Some individuals have received personal sanctions. These generally affect only the life of only that person.
    What have we lost? Well at a glance: some of the automakers (Chevrolet and Honda) left our market; The West does not supply us with equipment for oil production at sea. (now not relevant - oil is cheap); we ourselves refused from imported foodstuffs (it’s time to remember that cows can moo even in our country, and what are the harvests in recent years?); loss in microelectronics - a ban on the supply of dual-use chips (I don’t remember something that we had a powerful production of our own computers. IRBIS does not count this screwdriver assembly); clothes and shoes of world brands (well, they were not accessible to the majority anyway); shoes (this is not critical, in Russia they also know how to make shoes. I walk in such a way); parmesan and jamon (what is this?); machine tools and equipment (well, here it’s more difficult for me to judge what’s in mechanical engineering. I’m a builder, all that is needed for construction is there); oh yes, electronics and iPhones (didn’t you buy proc at the end of 2014?). No? It’s strange. Recklessly of you!
    And so why are prices rising?
    1. This is because no one wants to increase production. It’s easier to do less, but more expensive than many, but cheaper. Lack of normal competition. A simple example. From whatever you decide to build your house anyway, it will come out at about the same cost. Well, if it's not specifically garbage.
    2. The crisis in the country has already been serious for 2 years, and the people want to live like 6 years ago. Life has risen in price, and the costs must be replenished or shrunk. Not all are squeezed.
    That's the rise in prices. The owner of some "Magnet" also wants to rest in Courchevel and at the same time pay for the girls from the escort service. He just can't do it with a guitar on Baikal.
    3. A strong drop in oil prices. Here, Russia also had a hand in this. Russia and Saudi Arabia are the largest suppliers of oil to the market. Reduce volumes - a loss of the market, with the same income, while competitors will receive superprofits. Accusing the Saudis of a constant increase in oil production is unfounded. We are also constantly increasing it.
    4. The unwillingness of the Government of the Russian Federation to switch to a fixed exchange rate of the dollar and the euro. Say 60-70 rubles. There will simply be no negative consequences. An example of this is China. There are people in our government who assure us, or maybe they themselves believe that the market is everything. The market is a game on a foreign field by the rules of others. It was invented by the former metropolises in order to continue milking its former colonies.
    And why do you need dollars in everyday life? You are in Russia. It's all for rubles! Going to rest "there" - bought and drove off. What is the problem?

    Thus, neither Crimea, nor Syria, nor Turkey are the reasons for the deterioration of living standards in Russia. Only the growth of the exchange rate. And then right in the article it is written that if not for Crimea, then oil would not have fallen in price. We are apparently held here for suckers. There is really a lot of oil. And it’s getting bigger, and consumption is falling. With the low cost of the ruble, we would have one fig would be limited in the purchase of imported goods, since the price would be high.
    Well, everything seems to be. Maybe I forgot something else, but okay. The main reason is indicated.
  • Finntroll
    Finntroll 28 January 2016 16: 05
    +4
    Yes, instead of developing our own, we'd better launch "Uncle Joe" and let him build factories here. Again, these mantras are in the style of "foreign investment". We must not wait for some uncle to deign, for whatever reason, to build a factory here. We need to build this plant ourselves, we need to invest huge amounts of money, not the debt of the Federal Reserve or the ECB, we need to invest in science and production. It is clear that no one wants to do this, everyone wants to have a profit here, now and as soon as possible! This is a matter of national prestige, a matter of national security. Why can the Chinese make high-quality clothes, but the Russians can't, why the Germans can make high-quality cars and the Russians can't? It's just that the State is not interested in this in any way, these are risks, these are costs, the profit will be minimal and oh, how long ago. Look at what preferences manufacturers of products with high added value enjoy in the West, how the government licks them, at what percentage they are credited, etc. and compare with what we have. Ugh! Therefore, everyone is waiting for oil for 90 bucks and "an uncle from across the hill" who will build a plant, teach how to work, or tell a fairy tale about a beautiful life. Well wait, wait
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  • hrapon
    hrapon 28 January 2016 12: 51
    +4
    Quote: fn111
    Yes, and those needs in the yuan dominate)


    In fact, it is unlikely to dominate in RMB. At least in your own kitchen ....

    To the author: Roman, what happened?

    Mother-in-law came to visit? Did your wife add a car? Or indigestion?

    Let's go, go to the polls. You just take care of yourself and do not read all the comments on the site at night - it’s dangerous, you can be damaged by your health.
    1. Banshee
      28 January 2016 13: 18
      +5
      Quote: hrapon
      Roman, what happened?

      Mother-in-law came to visit? Did your wife add a car? Or indigestion?


      No, thank you, everything is in order. And the stomach is able to digest the crocodile, nazhivshego nails.

      Quote: hrapon
      Do not read all the comments on the site for the night - it is dangerous, it can be damaged by health.


      Here it is more difficult. This job.

      But in fact, this is really how my opinion is. Whining became colossal, and those who yesterday yelled "urrryayaya" and posted with beautiful pictures whine today.

      Again, on the "criticize - offer" principle. So I suggested. First, wipe away your tears, and then tear your backside off the sofa and go to build the Russia they want to see. Moreover, they even offered it in a very democratic way - either through elections or through Bolotnaya.

      By the way, there is one about the negative rating of the article meowed ...
      When will you, my dear, learn to read? At least through the line. Where I whitened Putin?
      I have slandered you, whiners. Something like this...
      1. Inok10
        Inok10 28 January 2016 13: 27
        +3
        Quote: Banshee
        But in fact, this is really how my opinion is. Whining became colossal, and those who yesterday yelled "urrryayaya" and posted with beautiful pictures whine today.

        .. my respect Roman Batkovich .. hi .. I had a plus .. well, they earned a rating .. I have long noted a directly proportional dependence of the number of whining on the rank ..
        Quote: Banshee
        Again, on the "criticize - offer" principle. So I suggested. First, wipe away your tears, and then tear your backside off the sofa and go to build the Russia they want to see.

        ... here everything is much worse .. "they were not asked this, they did not pass it" .. it’s necessary to work and think .. hi
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 28 January 2016 14: 33
        +5
        Banshee.
        In the elections, different filters are poked, but we don’t want to go through Bolotnaya. And what course our captain steers is completely incomprehensible. Here we are releasing steam.
      3. Kuzyakin15
        Kuzyakin15 28 January 2016 19: 01
        +1
        Banshee:
        Here I 100% agree with you: you have to go to the polls and vote not for someone you will "recommend," but for someone you consider worthy of your vote. How many times did you ask your friends, did you go to vote?
        -And why, have I got nowhere to go?
        Or: Anyway, they will choose whom they need!
        And then we are really outraged that the r.v.o.l.o.s..e.
        Hence the turnout 50%, 60%. But in the Crimea, when the question arose, the turnout was 90% (if the media did not lie).
        And they made their fate themselves, it seems to me. Could after all!
        And we, in Russia? Most self-eliminates from any election. (Be the election of the chairman of the SNT, GSC or deputies to the State Duma) And then we are indignant: Where did these ... radishes come from?
        True, there is another reason that the same people are in the deputies - the fear that there will be others will suddenly become even worse! As if at present there will be an improvement. And after all, they completely reject the likelihood that others will be able to work better, more fruitfully. Those. we have those rulers whom we deserve. Something like that? Reread komenty even on our VO and make sure that it is so. There are many who think about that.
        Sorry for the confusion, comrades. But as he managed, he expressed his thought
  • NIKNN
    NIKNN 28 January 2016 20: 57
    +2
    Do you know when things will get better? And then, when every citizen (by definition, not by passport) will treat his civic duties as workers. And choose not a wallet, but your head. Then the deputies (who would still cut their somewhat inflated salaries once in 100) would think not about the reimbursement of their election expenses, but about the country. As it was in the USSR, when they chose what they deserved, and not if possible to pay for the campaign. Then it will be better. And even then not immediately. But there will be.


    The thought is correct. After the war, what devastation was restored, life was settled. So now we have to whine less and really bring the country to the lock, which is what the GDP does and God grant him health and longevity. And blah, blah by type:
    Well, and how to live a city-old pennsionerka
    for seven thousand pensions (and probably the majority), which you have to pay for the apartment, ride a bus a couple of times a day and eat three times a day, not even talking about any medications, treat your sore sores.
    the situation will not be corrected. An active life position will help here, and not "my hut is on the edge." We'll harness it for a long time, I hope we'll go as always.
  • twviewer
    twviewer 28 January 2016 12: 57
    +2
    For whom is calling ... an exchanger?
  • Evgeny Petrovich
    Evgeny Petrovich 28 January 2016 14: 15
    +5
    It is "Almost everything". I am engaged in fabrics, they are either bought abroad for foreign currency, or made from us and cotton was bought in China, respectively, for the currency (not for the yuan). All cotton produced in Central Asia (in the former Soviet republics) is bought by China, they quickly got everything in their hands there. For me personally, the rise in the dollar hits hard.

    And if you notice, I’m not talking about iPhones now.
  • Finntroll
    Finntroll 28 January 2016 15: 49
    +3
    No, not about iPhones, But Household appliances in 90% of cases are imported, AvtoTAZ uses all imported components, which are bought for? correctly dollars, with equipment for all types of industries (machines, conveyors, mills, furnaces, etc.) WOW! also overwhelmingly imported, maybe clothes and shoes oops! and then import! Since 2008 NIKHRENA (sorry, but I can't say otherwise) in terms of Real Import Substitution not s-e-l-a-n-o! The state does not do nichrome, and is not going to do in the pricing on the domestic market for energy resources (gas, electricity, gasoline) Oil has fallen in price in three, fuel at the gas station and did not scratch. Maybe since 2008 in Russia they began to sew high-quality clothes, yes no, the whole country dresses in China and Turkey. Maybe we began to make high-quality competitive cars, no, or rather, our car industry has finally gotten off the ground, but the dog is mainly on imported components from Bosch, Renault, etc. Maybe the country began to produce modern household appliances? Well, somewhere I saw an Atlant refrigerator in a store, again, only COLLECTED in Russia. The Irbis computer on the Chinese element base is also abruptly replaced so it was replaced. Therefore, YES THE DOLLAR RATE IS VERY STRONGLY INFLUENCING THE ORDINARY RESIDENT OF RUSSIA. Because under the guise of (rising import prices), "Domestic Producer" raises the prices of its products so that it can be boiled over again.
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak 28 January 2016 10: 41
    30
    Is that really all? I don’t know what stores you are in, but in those where I go easily and naturally Russian goods are located. Moreover, foreign has become less.
    1. Makk
      Makk 28 January 2016 11: 08
      13
      A Russian citizen produces goods from Russian raw materials, using imported equipment (even light bulbs in the workshop) using foreign technology, and the company itself, if you dig around, is not entirely Russian. Question: Is the product manufactured by this company imported or domestic?
      PS Where do the money even 100% of domestic oligarchs go everyone knows.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 28 January 2016 11: 26
        +9
        Exactly - whose are all these Russian companies whose products are filled supermarket shelves? Big and. what is important, the main question is - in whose hands is our country.
        And I’ll tell the author - it’s better to lick ice cream.
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 28 January 2016 11: 41
          +6
          Quote: NordUral
          in whose hands is our country.

          Everything according to the theory of historical materialism is in the hands of the big bourgeoisie and monetar ministers
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 28 January 2016 12: 12
          +8
          Quote: NordUral
          Big and. what is important, the main question is - in whose hands is our country. And I’ll tell the author - it’s better to lick ice cream.

          Why so?
          The author, of course, wrote a lot of words, but the grain of the article is not in the dollar exchange rate or in what we buy on them with the weakness of our industrial potentials, but in the fact that our Russian voter is inert, like an educational model of the F-1 grenade.
          We moan, criticize, lament, four years in a row, and when election day comes, whoever you put craps at the polls - cinema, mimino, beer, fishing - in the end we have what we have - which then has the whole country in any form accessible to it .
          So it turns out that everything is to blame, just not ourselves.
          On the eve of the 2016 elections, the article is relevant - we want to change something, so it is necessary, according to the author's classification, "to tear the clear-cut ass off the sofa" and go to vote against this government, i.e. against United Russia, whose chairman is the above-mentioned D. Medvedev. There is no other, peaceful, way to express the people's FU yet.
          And all the graters on the dollar exchange rate and the price of oil are simply taking the discussion aside, since we obviously are not able to influence their quotes.
        3. UralMan
          UralMan 28 January 2016 12: 23
          +7
          Quote: NordUral
          And I’ll tell the author - it’s better to lick ice cream

          Eh heh heh .... it's me to Roma ...
          You pissed in the article what the hell.
          Everything is fine. Everything is fine. Let's go on course and where? Tell you where? ... the moderators will say ...
          Ah Roma ... Roma what a mess in your little head, why do you "love" your people and haish, you call us whiners, ... they say we chose these ... to say sickeningly with G ... Duma and HEAD. We? Why such a fright ... let's go and vote? For them?
          And I’ll tell you Roma ... the Russian people do not ache, he mumbles in the kitchen for a cup, he kicks him like a roly-vodka, and he sways and gets up and so every day he is noticed.
          But you shouldn’t put it on your head ... there are many examples in history.
          ----------
          And about "ice cream" ... hard ... respect!
          1. Banshee
            28 January 2016 13: 27
            +2
            Quote: UralChel
            You pissed in the article what the hell.


            S! Yo Yes!

            Quote: UralChel
            Everything is good everything is fine, we are going the right course and where? I tell you where?


            I myself understand perfectly. Do not. I agree.

            Quote: UralChel
            Ah Roma ... Roma what a mess in your little head, why do you "love" your people so much and haish, you call us whiners


            Not all. Not all. Not all whine.

            Quote: UralChel
            they say we chose these ... say sickeningly with G ... Dumas and HEAD. We? This is why such a frightened ... went and voted? For them?


            Hmm ... funny. And who chose them? I??? No, I have an alibi, I counted the voices. And I will do this every election, a habit already. And every election is the same: they go and vote for the EP. And then whine. And then again they go and vote for the same ones. And again whine.

            And about the "stuffing" is complete garbage. No stuffing is needed, there are enough absentee ballots.

            I kind of described the problem, from where the legs grow, and you just about dislike for the people. And work in the counting on a couple of choices, the eyes will open too. And you will understand me.
            1. UralMan
              UralMan 28 January 2016 20: 08
              +1
              Quote: Banshee
              I kind of described the problem, from where the legs grow, and you just about dislike for the people. And work in the counting on a couple of choices, the eyes will open too. And you will understand me.

              --------------
              Something drew a cold ... maybe you believe it?
              Everything is wrong ...
              It’s hard on my soul .... by the way, is there really no way out?
              And how to endure that kind of ignorance to your people?
              ---
              Well, for example, I personally will not trample on the "swamp", but how far away we will live ... think to give it, I will say so, not everything is so simple ... but also not tricky ... the time will come, oh it will come. .. pulled cold
      2. just exp
        just exp 28 January 2016 11: 53
        +4
        so where does the money of our oligarchs go? share the secret.
        and remind me what was there in Cyprus? and where is the money going now?
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        2. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 28 January 2016 12: 40
          +2
          Quote: just explo
          remind me what was there in Cyprus

          There was a seizure (by the EC leadership) of 30% of the amount of large deposits in Cypriot banks - in exchange for providing these banks with euro-liquidity. That is, the "enlightened" monetary authorities of the EU simply took away from the depositors (and the Russian oligarchs as well) a very decent amount of funds ("acquired by overwhelming capitalist labor")
          1. just exp
            just exp 28 January 2016 20: 33
            0
            That's it, and who is now strongly going to keep money in the west? everything is either legalized in Russia or transferred to the East, but practically no one trusts the West now.
    2. mihasik
      mihasik 28 January 2016 11: 36
      16
      Quote: Wedmak
      Is that really all? I don’t know what stores you are in, but in those where I go easily and naturally Russian goods are located. Moreover, foreign has become less.

      That's not all!) I agree! But...
      One example:
      Cheese "Creamy" from the Salsk Dairy Plant (Rostov Region) cost 13 rubles / kg at the end of the 247th, but in the spring of 14th it was already 420 rubles / kg and so on with all the goods.
      Question. On the basis of what, such a take-off?) What, all the components from Europe brought? Or maybe workers were discharged sharply from France? Domestic now stands or also as an imported product, and somewhere even more expensive. And you know which argument?))) The product is domestic !!!! Be proud, s * ka! And eat what they give!
      Nothing like that?
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 28 January 2016 11: 45
        +3
        Quote: mihasik
        Doesn't remind anything

        Take what is - the principle of unobtrusive Soviet service
        1. mihasik
          mihasik 28 January 2016 12: 17
          +4
          Quote: OldWiser
          Quote: mihasik
          Doesn't remind anything

          Take what is - the principle of unobtrusive Soviet service

          Here I am about the same! In the wake of sanctions, etc., in the muddy water they began to cut "coupons" on the layman!
          They want me to be proud of our Government?
          But what about Medvedevskoe: "The collapse of the ruble is beneficial for the state budget"? I am happy for the State budget, but not very much for the population! And in another way, without "ripping off the skin" from the population, no matter how, eh, Prime Minister? Weak ?!
          If weak, what are you sitting there?
    3. Mera joota
      Mera joota 28 January 2016 11: 47
      10
      Quote: Wedmak
      Is that really all? I don’t know what stores you are in, but in those where I go easily and naturally Russian goods are located. Moreover, foreign has become less.

      You are wrong. If the product does not say made in USA, it does not mean that it is purely domestic.
      For example, you put food in a bag in a supermarket, this bag is made of domestic polyethylene, but there is no machine on which the bag is made. Anyone who makes bags should regularly repair equipment for which consumables are bought for US dollars. The fall of the ruble leads to an increase in production costs, the manufacturer will accordingly raise the price of bags.
      It’s a trifle, but a common star is made up of such trifles.
      And God forbid you get seriously ill, then you will feel the fall of the ruble on yourself at 100% ...
    4. Finntroll
      Finntroll 29 January 2016 07: 21
      0
      Please provide a list of goods offhand. Maybe I really do not go to those stores. That would not be unfounded I will say for example the ECU in all Bosh Vases is a Russian company? My phone is Sony. Can it be Russian? Samsung monitor - this is what our 100% did good Clothing almost all from Turkey, alas, I bought it back in the summer. And though stop !! Socks!!! Cotton socks on the label proudly written Made in Russia! Well now it’s definitely not lost!
  • Diana Ilyina
    Diana Ilyina 28 January 2016 10: 44
    13
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad. If it was produced in Russia - then yes, do not care for the dollar.


    Yes you?! True?! For dollars ?! All that lies ?! In what stores do you shop, not in the Beryozochka network for an hour ?! I don’t observe any imports, and if I occasionally come across something, then I just pass by, I support exclusively the domestic manufacturer!
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 28 January 2016 10: 46
      17
      Medicines are almost all imported. Household appliances and electronics - too. In the food industry, a significant portion of raw materials comes from abroad.
      1. Rebus
        Rebus 28 January 2016 10: 52
        +6
        Are you aware that, for example, more than 60% of Samsung monitors and TVs are manufactured in Russia and from Russian accessories?
        1. minus
          minus 28 January 2016 10: 59
          15
          I think that further more than 60%. Only they are not from Russian components ... We only have an assembly ....
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 28 January 2016 18: 23
            0
            Importing foreign components and spare parts from abroad has become damn expensive.
      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak 28 January 2016 10: 53
        17
        Medicines are almost all imported.

        Yeah, but Russian ones cost 5 cheaper, as you ask in pharmacies.

        The equipment is really foreign, but for the most part it is assembled in Russia.
        Eeemmm .. Food industry raw materials is that? Meat? Cereals? We are milking for export, last month pork export brought down prices for it throughout Europe. Huh ... Wait a bit, let our manufacturers spin up.
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 28 January 2016 13: 17
          +3
          Wait a bit, let our manufacturers spin up. ,,
          but who’s against it, just pay attention, crowding out foreign companies, our prices right away twist like they live in the West. Moreover, the government does nothing to regulate this lawlessness. Roman insulted everyone in vain, do not confuse the lawlessness of officials, love for your country.
        2. Heinrich ruppert
          Heinrich ruppert 28 January 2016 14: 52
          +1
          Quote: Wedmak
          We are milking for export, last month pork export brought down prices for it throughout Europe



          You imagine that. Well, I’m alive, it means in Europe in Germany, I wander around Europe in particular, Holland, France, Switzerland, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, and I haven’t seen pork cheaper anywhere. Yes, there are stocks in stores for a certain portion of meat, but this is only for a week. To attract customers and then the price rises. I can’t agree with your statement. This is what I myself have festively seen in the last 24 days.
      3. Gxash
        Gxash 28 January 2016 10: 53
        10
        Household appliances with labels are foreign, and all (90%) are assembled in Russia.
        Production is localized very seriously.

        Or do you have a concept that Russian is a Zil refrigerator? No, really, I myself would buy a ZIL refrigerator if it were the same in characteristics and consumer properties as Indesit or Virpul or Samsung, but it is mine!
        1. Douglas
          Douglas 28 January 2016 12: 36
          +2
          Household appliances with labels are foreign, and all (90%) are assembled in Russia.
          Production is localized very seriously.

          Or do you have a concept that Russian is a Zil refrigerator? No, really, I myself would buy a ZIL refrigerator if it were the same in characteristics and consumer properties as Indesit or Virpul or Samsung, but it is mine!


          Haha, my friend laughed for a long time. You yourself said they were going to. And spare parts WHAT IN RUSSIA ARE MADE?
      4. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 28 January 2016 10: 57
        18
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Medicines are almost all imported. Household appliances and electronics - too. In the food industry, a significant portion of raw materials comes from abroad.


        And you are aware that imported drugs due to the collusion of pharmacists! For example, in our pharmacies they do not sell Russian antiviral medicine, which costs 56 rubles, but they sell an imported analogue for 234 rubles! They say that they say there is no Russian on sale, but they themselves keep it for themselves, for their own people, so to speak! The information is accurate, received from a friend who works in this pharmacy!

        Is Putin also to blame ?!
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 28 January 2016 12: 00
          +7
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          Is Putin also to blame ?!

          Who?
          1. Makk
            Makk 28 January 2016 13: 14
            0
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Is Putin also to blame ?!
            Who?

            Obviously a friend. Tell me who your friend is .... I wanted to make money on "OPEL" ... no better I SAVE.
        2. TOR2
          TOR2 28 January 2016 12: 56
          +1
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          For example, in our pharmacies they do not sell Russian antiviral medicine, which costs 56 rubles, but they sell an imported analogue for 234 rubles! They say that they say there is no Russian on sale, but they themselves keep it for themselves, for their own people, so to speak! The information is accurate, received from a friend who works in this pharmacy!

          You can advise your friend to start writing fairy tales. The drug has such an interesting feature as an expiration date. Ask your friend what delay measures apply to them. In addition, there is such an interesting event as an internal audit. And the inspector does not differ from the buyer in any way, but he knows for sure what is on the leftovers, since modern technologies allow this to be done. Written down by me from the words of a specialist. smile
      5. Russich
        Russich 28 January 2016 11: 26
        +4
        And you ask instead of imported medicine to sell you ours. Perhaps you will be surprised when you are offered a domestic substitute, only the price will be three times lower, with the same result, of course, not all replacement with 100%, probably this is not in any country in the world .... Well, there are a lot of household appliances everything we need is collected from us, starting from styrene. cars and TV ending cars ... Well, about the food industry, I just said nothing, just wanted to know about a significant part?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 January 2016 18: 26
          0
          The only thing we have is very few domestic anti-cancer drugs.
      6. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 5 February 2016 23: 42
        0
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Medicines are almost all imported. Household appliances and electronics - too. In the food industry, a significant portion of raw materials comes from abroad.

        You're right. Here are just arrows on all the foreign countries if not paid up by the young reformers, then the weak-minded ones.
        Kybala, whose condensed milk are you eating? You an hour, not a bad guy? Or simply with information processing jambs.
    2. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 28 January 2016 11: 30
      +4
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      I support exclusively domestic producer!

      The same garbage, okromya auto. When quality will correspond to the price, then I’ll think about it.
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 28 January 2016 11: 50
        +7
        Quote: subbtin.725
        The same garbage, okromya auto. When quality will correspond to the price, then I’ll think about it.


        Agree! Itself on "Opel" I go! We are in trouble with the auto industry and with football, and also fools and roads! Pichalka! crying
        1. iConst
          iConst 28 January 2016 12: 09
          +7
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          With the car industry and with football, we have trouble
          - And one and the same.

          "Domestic" car industry (VAZ) - 60+ percent of the shares belong to the Renault-Nissan concern. The same alignment for components: most of it because of the hillock.

          So we draw conclusions.
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 28 January 2016 12: 48
            +3
            Quote: iConst
            "Domestic" car industry (VAZ) - 60+ percent of the shares belong to the Renault-Nissan concern. The same alignment for components: most of it because of the hillock.

            ... and what of that ?! .. when we were engaged in civilian products? .. since the 8th century, we have not crawled out of the wars with Eurointegrators .. we are constantly forced to engage in weapons development we do it best of all ! .. and, we will focus on irons and washers from a country called Russia that the gentlemen mentioned above will not leave a shred above .. to them our land oh how you need .. hi
          2. grandson of Perun
            grandson of Perun 28 January 2016 15: 24
            +4
            Quote: iConst
            "Domestic" car industry (VAZ) - 60+ percent of the shares belong to the Renault-Nissan concern

            Last year, the concern had a half +1 share. When did you manage to sell another 10%?
            In general, VAZ is the most slandered Russian plant. Even in VO there are figures who are harassing our mechanical engineering.
            We draw conclusions and do not participate in the persecution ...
            1. iConst
              iConst 28 January 2016 15: 34
              +1
              Quote: Perun's grandson

              Last year, the concern had a half +1 share. When did you manage to sell another 10%?

              - Good morning! Fuck knows, years! Welkem on the official website of AvtoVAZ. Shareholders section.

              Ochch be surprised ... laughing laughing
              1. grandson of Perun
                grandson of Perun 2 February 2016 11: 26
                +1
                Quote: iConst
                Welkem on the official website of AvtoVAZ. Shareholders section.
                Ochch be surprised ...

                I went and looked.
                Quote from the "Share Capital" section:
                74,5% Alliance Rostec Auto BV
                25,5% Minority Shareholders

                Nearby distribution of ownership within the alliance:
                32,87% Russian Technology
                67,13% Renault Nissan Alliance

                Calculation on the calculator gives:
                74,5% * 67,13% = 50,01185% of shares owned by Renault-Nissan
                Where is the mistake?
        2. atalef
          atalef 28 January 2016 12: 54
          -2
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          Quote: subbtin.725
          The same garbage, okromya auto. When quality will correspond to the price, then I’ll think about it.


          Agree! Itself on "Opel" I go! We are in trouble with the auto industry and with football, and also fools and roads! Pichalka! crying

          and whose cell phone? wink
          1. SklochPensioner
            SklochPensioner 28 January 2016 13: 38
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            and whose cell phone?

            And you? winked
            And with computers the same way! yes
            Stop harassing yourself, bullshit!

            Skomorokhov decided to shake the crowd wassat he succeeded, spruce!
            1. atalef
              atalef 28 January 2016 13: 44
              +1
              Quote: SklochPensioner
              And you?

              samsung galaxy s6
              Quote: SklochPensioner
              And with computers the same way!

              INTEL, a world leader in the production of computer microprocessors and chipsets, today announced the launch of its new, sixth-generation Intel® Core ™ processor, developed in Israel, today, September 2.

              The new processor, dubbed Skylake, has become the most advanced and most powerful company ever made. Most of the research and production of the new processor was carried out at the Haifa branch of the giant computer company, which employs thousands of Israeli engineers.

              By the way, someone heard from me that I have everything Israeli /
        3. mihasik
          mihasik 28 January 2016 21: 14
          0
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          With the auto industry and with football, we have trouble, and also plus fools and roads! Pichalka!

          This is gender discrimination! laughing
          Dur driving we have even more! lol (do not take it personally).
        4. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 6 February 2016 01: 14
          0
          Diana, I "rode" and Nisane, Merina are not the last ones. I have a higher education in the technical part. Now I "go" on a dvenashke. No worries, no hassle.
          those. The auto industry will reach the level of PAK FA-50. No doubt. Roads and fools will learn and tone.
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      3. atalef
        atalef 28 January 2016 12: 52
        0
        Quote: subbtin.725
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        I support exclusively domestic producer!

        The same garbage, okromya auto. When quality will correspond to the price, then I’ll think about it.

        and with computers how? wink
      4. woron333444
        woron333444 28 January 2016 14: 13
        +1
        I have a friend in Germany at the assembly of a BMW. I asked him, "Like a Chinese." He said that they collect it in Germany. The components are bad, but they are installed anyway. Since 1998, they began to collect in China. And since 2002, almost 70% of the components are Chinese. And most importantly, BMW declares that no matter where the car is made, the main thing is that it is made by BMW.
    3. WUA 518
      WUA 518 28 January 2016 12: 06
      +4
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      I don’t see import at home, but if something occasionally comes across, I just pass by and support exclusively the domestic producer!

      Why dissemble that? The computer from which you write our assembly too?
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 28 January 2016 12: 21
        +7
        [quote = WUA ​​518] Why dissemble that? The computer from which you also write our assembly? / Quote]

        So what?! Should I go drown myself with grief now ?! I have a Sony TV too! I urgently need to throw it out ?! India and China are buying our weapons and imagine what a disaster they use it ....! Wow! And the Americans buy our rocket engines and also somehow do not panic about it!

        What a crazy childish "argument" about imported computers, iPhones and other equipment ?! Think of something more original, otherwise it has already set you on edge!
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 28 January 2016 12: 37
          +7
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          What a crazy childish "argument"

          Crazy? The fact that you support the domestic manufacturer your words?
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          I urgently need to throw him out ?! India and China are buying our weapons and imagine what a misfortune, use it ....! Wow! And the Americans are buying our rocket engines and also somehow do not panic about this!

          What does this have to do with it?
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          and then already sore mouth!

          Oskomin already filled such comments.
          1. Makk
            Makk 28 January 2016 12: 47
            +1
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            I urgently need to throw him out ?! India and China are buying our weapons and imagine what a misfortune, use it ....! Wow! And the Americans are buying our rocket engines and also somehow do not panic about this!
            What does this have to do with it?

            http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/%C6%E5%ED%F1%EA%E0%FF_%EB%EE%E3%E8%EA%E0
          2. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 28 January 2016 13: 51
            +7
            Quote: WUA 518
            Oskomin already filled such comments.


            And, I realized, the comments that would suit you should sound something like this:
            - Putin all the time;
            - Lelikusyopropalo;
            - All around are thieves and, alone I am white and fluffy:
            - Etc. etc.

            I do not like it in Russia, there is a well-known path! Suitcase-Station-West is waiting for its heroes! Bon voyage, good riddance!
            1. WUA 518
              WUA 518 28 January 2016 14: 33
              +5
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Ah, I get the comments,

              This is exactly what you have problems with.
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              I do not like it in Russia, there is a well-known path! Suitcase-Station-West is waiting for its heroes! Bon voyage, good riddance!

              Who are you to indicate what should I do?
        2. atalef
          atalef 28 January 2016 12: 57
          +3
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          So what?! Should I go drown myself with grief now ?! I also have a Sony TV! Do I need to throw it out urgently?

          a kak?
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          I’m somehow not observing import at home, and if something occasionally comes across, I just pass by

          ?????
  • cniza
    cniza 28 January 2016 10: 47
    +9
    As it was in the USSR when they chose according to their deserts, and not if possible, to pay for the campaign.


    The article is not unambiguous, but this phrase is generally tin ... how old is the author? (I'm 56 years old). I agree on one thing, you cannot be indifferent, and you must try to exercise your rights.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 28 January 2016 11: 12
      +9
      Quote: cniza
      cniza RU Today, 10:47 ↑ New

      As it was in the USSR when they chose according to their deserts, and not if possible, to pay for the campaign.


      The article is not unambiguous, but this phrase is generally tin ... how old is the author? (I'm 56 years old). I agree on one thing, you cannot be indifferent, and you must try to exercise your rights.

      I remember 59 how one candidate was always chosen. All honestly. Movie. Sausage.....
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 28 January 2016 11: 49
        0
        "Order table" - such were the elections
    2. Suhov
      Suhov 28 January 2016 11: 51
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      The article is not straightforward ...

      So the surrounding "objective reality" is also not unambiguous.
      There are successes. The people bought cars even in the provinces. When you walk to work on foot in the morning, it is impossible to cross the road - the cars go in a row.
      There are also failures. For instance. In Citylink, the ASUS smartphone went up by 30% in just 10 days: before the New Year price is 10.390 rubles, immediately after the new year - 13.500 rubles.
      Well, with household appliances it’s clear - they buy it for American rubles.
      But why did domestic food prices rise, for example, chicken?
      But in general it doesn’t happen that everything would be good for everyone, everywhere and in everything.
      Yet Mikhailo Vasilievich Lomonosov formulated the law of conservation of matter, which is universal and in our case sounds like this:
      "If nishtyaks arrive in one place, in another place they will surely decrease and it will turn out to be a complete mess!"
      Yours! hi
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  • Woodman
    Woodman 28 January 2016 11: 00
    +3
    In fact, it was not under the current government that they began to destroy their own production and purchase everything necessary abroad ...
    1. Boos
      Boos 28 January 2016 11: 33
      +7
      But with the current one they continued, the course of the article - "you are to blame, but Putin is not in business ..."
      Quote: Lesovik
      In fact, it was not under the current government that they began to destroy their own production and purchase everything necessary abroad ...
    2. mihasik
      mihasik 28 January 2016 11: 44
      +5
      Quote: Lesovik
      In fact, it was not under the current government that they began to destroy their own production and purchase everything necessary abroad ...

      For that, they got into the WTO at the present! But they warned: Let's put our industry and agribusiness! So it came around!
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 28 January 2016 12: 16
        +3
        I won’t say how throughout Russia, but in the area where I came from in 15 built two plants (small ones, it’s true) and are now negotiating two, and on the former collective farm they found funds to repair the remaining yards, and bought two new tractors, without loans, by the way, and the water supply system was repaired for the first time since it was built, and two years ago the sawmill was launched there ... Maybe for some it is nothing, but for the locals it is serious event.
  • Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 28 January 2016 11: 06
    +2
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad

    You are some kind of wrong Kibalchish. Change your nickname to "Bad" - he also selflessly loved "a basket of cookies and a jar of jam" purchased for bourgeois currency. And we have our own Russian products in bulk. For food, so 80 - 90%
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 28 January 2016 12: 24
      +3
      The raw materials for our products are in bulk. Percent 80. And the products are made on imported equipment.
    2. Makk
      Makk 28 January 2016 13: 03
      0
      Brand: Dairy products “Merry Milkman”, “House in the Village”, water “Essentuki”, juices “Orchard”, “Favorite”, “Tonus”, “I”
      Owner: PepsiCo
      Brand: Chocolate “Russian”, Ice cream “48 kopecks”
      Owner: Nestle
      Brand: “Mug and barrel” kvass, “Good” juice
      Owner: Coca-Cola
      This is not all. You can not comment ....


    3. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 5 February 2016 23: 48
      0
      Oops. Litter for violation of intellectual rights. I also called Kibalchish Bad.
  • Conscience
    Conscience 28 January 2016 11: 07
    +4
    not everything is produced in foreign countries, but what’s interesting is that what we produce at a foreign price is offered to us sad
  • Finches
    Finches 28 January 2016 11: 13
    +6
    I just really do not care about the dollar and the price of oil! And for all the rest, our Western partners have created a defeatist-liberal criminal organization "PARNAS" - they love and respect dollars there! They even worship them! The main thing is more dirt on your homeland and you are in kings!

    I see society divided in half, as on the eve of 1917 .... On white and red! This is observed in all social groups: in our army, industry, science ... And if we assume a similar scenario for the development of events (God forbid), then personally I will be on the side of the Reds! And some of my friends will be for the whites ... This will be the next largest tragedy in Russia! That is why all these panic attacks about the fall of the ruble are pouring water into the mill of our western opponents! It has long been necessary to understand Russia - this is the ruble, not the dollar! Russian open spaces, this is not the sands of Texas!
  • BecmepH
    BecmepH 28 January 2016 11: 26
    +2
    Well, I don’t know ... Change shops. Go to those in which OUR sell.
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 28 January 2016 14: 20
      0
      Quote: BecmepH
      Well I do not know... Change shops. Go to those in which OUR sell.

      Or change the country.
      Americans, by the way, do not follow the ruble (and even the dollar !!!) exchange rate! wassat
  • vladimir_krm
    vladimir_krm 28 January 2016 11: 39
    0
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad.

    Well, well.
    Andrey Derevyanchenko, President of Golder Electronics and owner of the Vitek brand ...
    Evgeny Nazarov, founder of the lesser-known brand of household appliances Vigor ...
    Scarlett (owned by Arima Holding Corp., a joint brainchild of Chinese and Russians) ...
    Rolsen is a brand invented in 1995 by MIPT graduate Sergei Belousov ...
    Kaiser, operating on the market as a German company since the mid-90s and invented by founding father Pavel Loginov ...
    And so on: Techno, Trony, Elenberg, Bork, Erisson, Akira, Prology, Milagro, Greenfield, Faberlic, Carlo Pazolini, Gloria Jeans, Gee Jey, Oggi, Camelot, Erich Krause and hundreds of other companies - purely Russian ...
  • KaPToC
    KaPToC 28 January 2016 11: 51
    +3
    Urya Urya and again Urya.
    We are for cheap oil and ruble devaluation.
    This will reduce (I'm not talking about a complete cessation), at least reduce the outflow of capital from Russia. This will increase the competitiveness of production, at least in the domestic market. Stop selling priceless resources for nothing.
  • Boos
    Boos 28 January 2016 11: 52
    +7
    And the watches from Putin’s team at the Russian watch factory?
  • YGV-97219
    YGV-97219 28 January 2016 12: 12
    +3
    In Kazakhstan, we have almost the whole Russian-made perch, and of course local and a little Belarusian! What are you talking about, dear and what are you eating!
  • weis223
    weis223 28 January 2016 14: 28
    0
    You're lying shallow and with a sweetheart ...
  • Stas157
    Stas157 28 January 2016 16: 55
    +2
    Quote: Wedmak
    Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is, I see them once a year and then on TV. And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.

    Your statement would be correct if inflation did not follow the devaluation of the ruble! And so, the dollar will jump a little and the consumer basket will be tightened afterwards. And salaries do not grow! The result is an impoverishment of the population. The average RFP of a Russian, someone has already calculated has become less than the average RFP of a Chinese. That's where we got to. But officials and oligarchs have lost the least, and some who have earned on the course, because all their savings in foreign currency are offshore. The crisis, as usual, pulls on itself. No, well, everything is clear, the crisis! But you need to shake our elite! Why are all the time extreme people?
  • Homo
    Homo 28 January 2016 17: 26
    0
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad.

    If you live in Moscow and go shopping at Shops, then it is possible that way. And those who live in Russia and go shopping in stores did not see this!
  • SergGrey318
    SergGrey318 28 January 2016 23: 27
    0
    Pretty strange statement.
    I went into the refrigerator looked.
    I confess that the meat in the freezer is from Argentina.
    But everything else is ours, Russian.
    Strange statement.
  • Diana Ilyina
    Diana Ilyina 28 January 2016 10: 39
    +7
    Oh, how many minuses to the article! And what is wrong gentlemen are good ?! What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!
    1. Hon
      Hon 28 January 2016 10: 52
      10
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      Oh, how many minuses to the article! And what is wrong gentlemen are good ?! What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!

      Of course, Rafik is naturally not to blame.
      But only as the author’s point of view and references to the articles of the constitution, is the stubborn lobbying of the interests of Putin’s friends in combination with the Rotenberg oligarchs explained?
      As I understand it, the author does not see the corruption of the country's leadership, including the guarantor.
    2. Oorfene Deuce
      Oorfene Deuce 28 January 2016 10: 57
      17
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!

      What is he right about? The author complains that everyone is to blame, not just Putin ... But all, at least the majority, do not want to see in the power frank thieves, vile Chubais, hypocritical Ulyukaevs, Nabiulins, presumptuous oligarchs, etc. The people rightly want to see Serdyukov, Vasilyev and other henchmen in prison.
      Private Vasya Pupkin lives law-abiding, regularly goes to work, gets his beggarly salary, what else do they want to blame him? Who should comply with the law? From where the fish rots ... Those in power have completely overthrown, write off their failures to the electorate. Swota.
      1. aleks_29296
        aleks_29296 28 January 2016 11: 03
        14
        The author complains that everyone is to blame, not just Putin ...


        The leader is always to blame, no matter what rank he is, he bears responsibility for all. And especially for his subordinates, because it is he who forms the team around him.
      2. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 28 January 2016 11: 09
        +9
        Quote: Oorfene Deuce
        What is he right about?


        Why are you surrounded by thieves and ghouls, and poor people toil ?! And how many people came to the polls, to any, to local, to federal ?! I take my Rostov region! Whatever ask Golubev a thief, roads are bad, etc. etc ..., I immediately ask a question, but who did you vote for, well ....., for Golubev ............, mmm-dya! So who is to blame ?! And this despite the fact that the turnout was below 50% !!! That is, every second simply did not come, and almost every first voted for Golubev, although everyone knew who he was!

        Conclusion?! Apparently Putin is to blame, I guessed ?!
        1. Oorfene Deuce
          Oorfene Deuce 28 January 2016 12: 37
          11
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          Apparently Putin is to blame, I guessed ?!

          No, he was so ... Passed by lol
          I never voted for Edro, Medvedev, Putin only the first term ... There was no point further, he turned brown, picked up a parasite company, rose due to rising oil prices, threw people, and even more oligarchs, who began to hatch like mushrooms after rain . The nomenclature is all rotten, and the terms of government only increase ... Leonid Ilyich would envy.
          Low voter turnout ... Yes, the people are already dull and don't believe in anything. Is it a joke to ruin education for 25 years, pour obscene shit from all the media, and talk about the "great accomplishments" of our "benefactors" in the news.
          He worked with election commissions, that’s where the essence of the abomination of the entire current government is ... More to come up with such illicitism and deflection. Or do you naively think that elections are a model of legality? Therefore, there is an opinion - vote, do not vote, you will still receive (censorship) ...
        2. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 6 February 2016 00: 13
          0
          Oops. Diana - IN let me go in the comments.
          I'm talking about your phrase - Conclusion ?! Apparently Putin is to blame, I guessed ?!
          Diana ..........., mmm-dya!
          Did not guess.
          Blame (determined) the Lord. Putin is not lord. And it’s not his fault, the reason, which is multidimensional, is to blame. The reason is not to blame. Cause is a link in the chain of cause and effect relationships of its level. This is a consequence of the consequences of the consequences of the consequences. Well, etc.
          Diana, do not bother with the rationalization of the foolish.
    3. OMEDB
      OMEDB 28 January 2016 11: 04
      +7
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      And what is wrong gentlemen are good ?! What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!

      I don’t know what the author happened there for his near-parliamentary life, but here are my 5 kopecks for the article. I won’t lie to the elections personally, I never went and I won’t go, I think this is a circus and profanity (my opinion). But parents walk, or rather walked up to one point. Once again there were elections to local authorities (a single day it seems), they come to vote as usual, they are given a list, and there they look, and they have already voted !!! Here are those on !!! To the question of the inspector, the answer was shocking - you have already voted, here are your signatures, why you came the second time, according to the law, it is not allowed to vote 2 times !!! belay Well then, of course, it started (military father and truth-seeker), but how do you think how it all ended? And nothing, a bunch of complaints, written paper and red tape, the result is that the votes anyway left for the purpose !!! A minus article clearly, the author pushed all under one comb!
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 28 January 2016 11: 18
        10
        Quote: OMEDB
        I don’t know what the author happened there for his near-parliamentary life, but here are my 5 kopecks for the article.


        What are you ?! I did not vote and I will not, but Putin is to blame! Iron logic! And about the stolen votes, I can admit that it was, but that's all the rest is nonsense! You don’t have Internet, to shoot a video and post it is not fate, the prosecutor’s office doesn’t work ?!

        It's just that you are too lazy to fight for your rights, that’s the whole truth! And under a lying stone, water does not flow!

        "And yet yes, Putin is to blame, but not you!" lol
        1. OMEDB
          OMEDB 28 January 2016 11: 44
          +8
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          "And yet yes, Putin is to blame, but not you!"

          And you’re a direct ardent Putinist, I’ll see! It seems I did not give a reason, in my comment, to convince you that Putin is to blame. I just spoke out against the author and the article itself with regards to the elections! About the fact that I do not vote, I also indicated (my opinion) that I was not going to discuss it (for this I need to create a separate branch). The situation is such that my father spent a lot of work on establishing justice in the elections and killed a lot of time. His last straw was that he would turn to the prosecutor. Justice has triumphed, only ATTENTION !!! The elections were in September, and a positive answer (final) was received in April. of the year!!! Well, how do you like it? Fake voices I repeat, left for the purpose! And in our country, in order to achieve the truth, you need to have good health and patience!
        2. Heinrich ruppert
          Heinrich ruppert 28 January 2016 12: 25
          +2
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          It's just that you are too lazy to fight for your rights, that’s the whole truth! And under a lying stone, water does not flow!


          Daria, I completely agree with you. Moreover, this picture is observed in all countries of the world, regardless of the state and nationality. Turn around the world a lot breakfast in one country, dinner in another. I communicate both with ordinary people and with those who "stand" higher. ALL the same, only in different languages.
        3. godun
          godun 28 January 2016 14: 23
          +2
          I’m sorry, are you serious about the prosecutor’s office? Are all the authorities in the EDR there, and indeed, what inspires confidence in the normal work of this punitive body? And I go to the polls fundamentally, although I understand that I’m crap, but I don’t want to facilitate any work (censorship).
        4. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 6 February 2016 00: 33
          0
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          It's just that you are too lazy to fight for your rights, that’s the whole truth!

          Diana, unwillingness to fight can be not laziness, but disbelief, cowardice, weakness of the personality’s energy, etc.
          And for, etc. there may be an understanding of the humiliation of an intellectual before the same voter who was not hidden in a psychiatric hospital because of a budget deficit for the maintenance of those who are not worthy of the right to vote in a fool or the machinations of political technologists.
      2. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 28 January 2016 12: 05
        +1
        . I won’t lie to the polls personally, I never went and I won’t go

        He went to the polls, although he was on the shift. Mom, brothers, and I voted for GDP, and my father for the Communists - democracy in action.
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      1. Forest
        Forest 28 January 2016 11: 41
        0
        No need to compare conditions. In the 30 years, you would have plowed for days somewhere in the factory without days off and holidays, but now you sit somewhere in the office and think out where to grind something and blame the management that the economy is not growing. Be so kind as to work as in 30, and don't kick the blame on all the others without doing anything at the same time.
        1. Mareman Vasilich
          Mareman Vasilich 28 January 2016 15: 23
          0
          Oh, nah .. Learn the story, not set out in cliches. Another right teacher teaches how to live right.
          1. Forest
            Forest 28 January 2016 16: 03
            -2
            I also teach. Here you, in the course, do not know anything. Do you think you can achieve something without straining? Yeah, good luck.
            1. Mareman Vasilich
              Mareman Vasilich 1 February 2016 14: 53
              0
              Find and show the laws, charters, instructions in which a 24-hour working day with a 7-day working week was prescribed. Otherwise yap.
      2. udincev
        udincev 28 January 2016 11: 49
        +1
        Quote: Mareman Vasilich
        The author, you would have better traveled to the regions, talked to pensioners, teachers, educators and doctors.

        Who have chosen for themselves ... (and further on in the article)
      3. SOF
        SOF 28 January 2016 14: 38
        +2
        Why so soon?
        The author, in this sandbox, is far from new, no rudeness was observed for him, and the context of the article is the context of the article. Emotions can, too, and nothing more.
        But is the author completely wrong? Well, of course, the fish rots from the head, right? But only, as it turns out, not at all always.
        A simple question from life (answer it yourself and try to do it very honestly):
        ...so...
        The day before you sat (yes, yes, in the same sense) without fanaticism, of course.
        In the morning of the next day, we got behind the wheel (to work, to the country house, or / etc.). "Exhaust" almost no.
        At the intersection you are slowed down by a traffic police officer.
        Further on patrol. The inspector makes you a veiled and ambiguous proposal to resolve the misunderstanding. And you tell him (to choose):
        1. Thank you friend, that you understand me!
        2. No! You can not do it this way! It’s my fault and you must punish me with deprivation of rights for two years!
        ________________________________________________________________________________
        ______
        Depending on how you answer (... myself, I don’t need to answer) and it will become clear whether decomposition always starts from the head. And whether the head can always make an urgent amputation of the tail, if it is about its existence, sometimes does not even suspect.

        I have a son, he is fond of LEGO constructor, and so - whatever one may say, but any complexity, the design, it turns out, starts from the very first block. And if the block is deformed, then the design can not be assembled.

        "You need to love the Motherland as it is." Lieutenant General A.N. Tupolev
        1. Oorfene Deuce
          Oorfene Deuce 28 January 2016 17: 22
          +5
          Quote: SOF
          At the intersection you are slowed down by a traffic police officer.

          I consider incorrect comparison with DPS ...
          The level of responsibility is different. And besides, I did not hear that any snickering bureaucrat in this situation admitted his guilt. Faster traffic police will fly out of work ...
          Then, such a greasy ch.m. sits, it is important that he lounges in an armchair and calls for law and order. If someday they’ll take for eggs - so after all he is essentially a victim of the system. Everyone is stealing, am I worse ...? And on the other hand, you can’t hold out in power. You steal there, lick here ... Bend, lobby, roll away. System.
          But they are broadcasting brainwashed by Putin’s liberal propaganda - start with yourself, and all will be happy!
          Beauty!
          It is unlikely that there will be any sense in such appeals; they have not given examples. And they filed just the opposite. They have discredited themselves sufficiently, and there is no faith in them. They have come off so much that they cannot even understand this.
          Do not rock the boat type - while purposefully leading the country to shocks, which they themselves are afraid of like fire.
          I’m all of this to the fact that you can be a highly moral and deeply moral person, but you won’t get this country out of * experience. We are here taking care of the fate of the motherland, and not of the philosophy of the individual.
          The system and approaches need to be changed. Then there will be a result.
    5. Sergey Medvedev
      Sergey Medvedev 28 January 2016 11: 21
      17
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      Oh, how many minuses to the article! And what is wrong gentlemen are good ?! What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!


      Minus the article for the fact that the author shifted responsibility from the authorities to the voters. And I have never voted for this power! Not for Putin, not for the LADY. And I'm not going to vote for Edrasov. I go to elections regularly. And the topic is familiar. "Begin rebuilding with yourself." The case ended with the destruction of the USSR, if anyone has forgotten.
    6. Alexei
      Alexei 28 January 2016 11: 21
      -5
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!

      I also cringed on the number of minuses. It seems like adults, they read smart articles ... But how it all came to money, everything seems to break loose and splash with negativity. It’s understandable, it just so happened today if there is money — then Ivan Petrovich, there is no money — Vanka (removed by the censorship of the site). Food seems to be there, no one dies of hunger. Well, you didn’t go on vacation abroad to rest, well, the purchase of a car, a TV set, a computer was lost ... Where have my great people gone who won any war? What kind of big-bellied monkeys that feel comfortable while shopping surround me? What (removed by censorship of the site), denyuzhkov is not enough, wuxi-pusi he did not buy anything there ... They robbed the poor.
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 28 January 2016 11: 58
        +2
        Quote: Alexej
        And how it all came to money, everything, as if they were breaking the chain and splashing with negativity.

        And it always has been! And why wonder?
        When the USSR was "brought down" what were they bothering about, can you remember? Not about freedom, hamburgers and jeans? Not about the stomach? And the hell that the country is falling apart!
        In the USSR, ALL the people were in an equal position (not counting the "confidants", but according to statistics it was minuscule) and the difficulties were more easily endured together.
        And now? And now every man for himself! Yes, and thick skin for crises is now different for everyone. From there, and the replicas are different: someone "zashibis everything", and someone "zhva". Capitalism however! Well, they did what they wanted!
    7. prostorabochiy
      prostorabochiy 28 January 2016 11: 25
      +5
      Where is the truth? Under any article there are comments of smart, adequate people and freaks like the author. (banned for this, and with him). The article is slang from the "screams" and "screams" of the offended. So they are in place. They work, plow, get paid. Much not bothering to understand what's what. They are not paid for understanding, but for "shouting" and "screaming". I don’t understand why VO publishes such articles here? If only it looked like an alternative point of view ... And then there are obvious grant eaters.
    8. Patriot 1
      Patriot 1 28 January 2016 11: 27
      +4
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      Oh, how many minuses to the article! And what is wrong gentlemen are good ?! What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!

      Diana, I don’t know your age ... and it’s not correct to ask him .... but, anyway, in the second half of the 80s it was even worse. My favorite dish (from despair) I had - noodles with sugar (and they sold them on coupons). My father was an officer, there were three children in the family, I am the eldest. I note that we then lived in the USSR and the country (according to the author), honored people ruled the country. And what have we come to ???
      One thing I can say - it is impossible to allow revolutionary processes in the country. What this leads to (like any revolution) can be seen in many examples. The last is Ukraine. And the author stopped his attention on this!
      1. KOH
        KOH 28 January 2016 11: 49
        +5
        At that time I was already 27-28 years old as an adult, is this a well-deserved hunchback? ...
      2. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 28 January 2016 12: 08
        +1
        Quote: Patriot 1
        One thing I can say - it is impossible to allow revolutionary processes in the country.

        I agree, we do not need revolutions (coups) under any sauce.
      3. iConst
        iConst 28 January 2016 12: 22
        +5
        Quote: Patriot 1
        One thing I can say - it is impossible to allow revolutionary processes in the country.
        - To whom is this appeal? To the snickering "elite" or to the already not boisterous general population?

        The country is dying out because it does not give birth, because there are no conditions, because they cannot be created, because there is little money and you need to plow.

        The West is dying out - women need to work too, what the hell are children ?!

        Germany, observing the KKK (not to be confused with the American one!) Managed for a couple of decades after the losses of the First World War not only to restore, but also significantly increase the population.

        Do not believe in a positive "offspring" of statistics - this is fiction due to migration.
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    10. Anita
      Anita 28 January 2016 11: 55
      +3
      Accidentally clicked on "-", sorry.
    11. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 3 February 2016 18: 22
      +7
      Apparently strongly hooked!
  • Maksus
    Maksus 28 January 2016 10: 39
    24
    But you are not embarrassed that the salary is not growing, and the prices are rising very quickly. And I, for example, already physically cannot work anymore, what can I do?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 28 January 2016 10: 43
      +6
      About the rapid rise in prices, you turned it down. They really have grown, but objective reasons are sanctions. But I will tolerate, if only to put in place the snickering impudent Anglo-Saxons.
      1. Maksus
        Maksus 28 January 2016 10: 48
        11
        Look at the dynamics of rising gas prices: in 2008 a liter of 95 cost 23 rubles, now it costs 39 rubles. At 2,15 rubles per year on average. And it is growing constantly, regardless of the sanctions and the ruble exchange rate.
        1. grandson of Perun
          grandson of Perun 28 January 2016 11: 49
          +1
          Quote: Maksus
          Look at the dynamics of rising gas prices: in 2008 a liter of 95 cost 23 rubles, now it costs 39 rubles. At 2,15 rubles per year on average. And it is growing constantly, regardless of the sanctions and the ruble exchange rate.

          No need to panic. Panic is only beneficial because it is going to bring people to the Maidan.
          Now calmly and essentially:
          Firstly, about the increase in gas prices by 2,15 rubles per year. But given inflation, there is no growth!
          Secondly, half of the cost of gasoline is made up of fees and excise taxes. Which are not connected in any way with exchange speculation in futures, but which are also influenced by inflation.
          Now the question is backfill: does inflation depend on sanctions or not?
          Thirdly, most of the second half of the cost of gasoline is the cost of production and logistics. Which are also in no way connected with the exchange games of "partners", but which are influenced by the imposed restrictions on the sale of equipment to us and the rise in its cost.
          Now the question is backfill: and the restrictions on sales of equipment to us and the increase in its cost depends on sanctions and the ruble exchange rate or not?
          So ...
          1. Maksus
            Maksus 28 January 2016 11: 59
            +8
            You again? Are you chasing me? People, save !!! The grandson of Perun follows me on the heels !!!
            Do you want a simple answer to all your questions? In 2008, my salary as a doctor was 16 thousand rubles, now 17300. Strongly grown over 7 years, taking into account the fact that experience and category? The correct answer is that they have not grown. So, adiez!
            1. grandson of Perun
              grandson of Perun 28 January 2016 12: 25
              +1
              Quote: Maksus
              simple answer to all your questions? In 2008, my salary as a doctor was 16 thousand rubles, now 17300.

              I didn’t understand how the complaint about low wage growth answers my questions "Does the rise in the price of gasoline depend on sanctions and the ruble exchange rate or not?" winked
              Explain, otherwise it looks very much like taking the conversation aside, when you don’t want to admit your wrongness, but there’s nothing to object essentially ... wink
              1. Maksus
                Maksus 28 January 2016 12: 32
                +3
                This is a response to your statements about sanctions, inflation and more. There is no increase in salaries, but indexation should be taking place for state employees, no? and what sanctions were imposed on the Russian Federation from 2008 to 2014 year? Answer, and the mystery?
                1. grandson of Perun
                  grandson of Perun 28 January 2016 13: 08
                  +2
                  Wait a minute, we'll talk about your salary after we finish with gasoline. I repeat, taking the conversation aside, taking revenge and insulting is immoral.
                  So, earlier I gave three arguments that explain the increase in the cost of gasoline and the dependence of growth on sanctions.
                  You didn’t refute my arguments, you just put a minus. Is that revenge?
                  Further, do not talk to me in the tone of "Answer, and the mystery man?" and "People, save me !!! Perun's grandson is following me !!!" Let's leave the antics and unnecessary emotions to the trolls, and we ourselves will talk like all other VO readers with logic and facts.
                  So, back to the cost of gasoline. Explain why you think the growth of 2,15 rubles per year is too large and independent of sanctions and the ruble exchange rate, as stated at the very beginning.
                  PS: and do not write me nasty things in PM ...
                  1. Maksus
                    Maksus 28 January 2016 13: 18
                    -3
                    I want to talk like that. You are stalking me, aren't you? And I do not like obsession and, what if you are a pervert ???
                    Answer me - what explains the increase in the price of a liter of gasoline from 2008 to 2014 year? There are no sanctions, oil is stably expensive, inflation is not strong. What is the reason for the increase in gas prices since September 2014 - oil prices are creeping down, sanctions are working. But sanctions apply to equipment for oil production, how does this concern processing?
                    1. grandson of Perun
                      grandson of Perun 28 January 2016 13: 49
                      +1
                      So far I see that you do not like obsession, but do not like to be responsible for your words and your actions.
                      What explains the rise in gas prices, I answered at the very beginning - inflation. In figures, the price increase is approximately equal to inflation.
                      I also wrote at the very beginning that exchange speculations with futures (what you call the "oil price") have nothing to do with either excise taxes or the cost of production / transportation / processing.
                      On the ALL I answered your questions. Will I get an answer to at least one question or at least one reasoned objection? Or will there again be throws in slogans, attempts to withdraw from the topic, answers to a question with a question, switching to personalities, etc., which is usually called Internet trolling?
                  2. Maksus
                    Maksus 28 January 2016 13: 38
                    0
                    Yes, who needs you, write to you in PM, do not fill your price ...
                    1. grandson of Perun
                      grandson of Perun 28 January 2016 17: 13
                      +1
                      Quote: Maksus
                      Yes, who needs you, write to you in PM

                      This is not a place to clarify the relationship, but you are clearly asking me to poke your nose into the screenshot of your letter.
                      And of course you will not apologize either for your rudeness or for your deceit.
            2. godun
              godun 28 January 2016 15: 13
              +5
              But doctors and teachers do not specifically increase the salary, because, at the next election, there will be nothing to promise ... And as for the price increase, our helmsmen can always explain why prices are rising, this is perhaps the only thing they do professionally, because many people believe It’s bad that our self-chosen leaders didn’t even hear about such concepts as economic security of the country, food security and other security ... And the consequences of any sanctions would be much weaker if the government were to develop its country, and not just put it in your pockets all that their playful little hands can reach.
          2. Kuzyakin15
            Kuzyakin15 28 January 2016 13: 06
            +4
            Grandson of Perun:
            And how much did salaries increase on the pr-ve? Do not know? Not how much! And the work basically did not decrease, but even vice versa. At the expense of those who have been reduced.
            You see the crisis!
            1. grandson of Perun
              grandson of Perun 28 January 2016 14: 25
              +1
              Quote: Kuzyakin15
              And how much did salaries increase on the pr-ve? Do not know? Not how much!

              Why dont know? Of course I know, because I myself work in production.
              "No" wage growth for what period are you interested in?
              I can answer immediately for my production. But this will be a special case. To tell in figures about the growth of salaries in other regions, I will need to contact former classmates. But if without numbers, then I can say that they also increased salaries ...
              1. Kuzyakin15
                Kuzyakin15 28 January 2016 19: 24
                +3
                Grandson of Perun:
                And I, in turn, know how much the salary has grown since 2013 at US on the pr-ve.
                Five percent! Great?
                1. grandson of Perun
                  grandson of Perun 28 January 2016 23: 10
                  +1
                  Quote: Kuzyakin15
                  And I, in turn, know how much the salary has grown since 2013 at US on the pr-ve.
                  Five percent! Great?

                  Since I am not a populist, collecting advantages from offended and freeloaders, I will try to answer objectively:
                  The 5% salary growth you indicated for two years is several times less than inflation during this time.
                  Why so - there are several reasons. Among them there are both objective (for example, an increase in costs due to sanctions) and subjective (for example, the desire of any capitalist to pay less and get more)
                  Since there are several reasons, there is no simple universal recipe for correcting the bias between inflation and wage growth. And if someone tells you that there is such a simple universal recipe, then carefully look at this populist. Does he want to call you to the Maidan under beautiful slogans?
      2. Maksim
        Maksim 28 January 2016 10: 57
        11
        And why not put (or better put) in the place of snickering impudent ministers and TOP managers?
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 28 January 2016 12: 57
          +3
          again, a classic of historical materialism - "the working masses can remove the big bourgeoisie from power only by establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat through a socialist revolution." And in another way
          Quote: Makcim
          (and better to plant)

          will not work out in any way (from the word TOTALLY).
      3. ayuric
        ayuric 28 January 2016 11: 06
        11
        with what fright is the Anglo-Saxon sanction the objective reason for the increase in kindergarten fees? take the trouble to explain.
      4. dzeredzavkomimu
        dzeredzavkomimu 28 January 2016 11: 29
        11
        30-100-200 percent. On vegetables and fruits, is this not a rapid growth? In France, I remember for raising prices by 3 percent, they began to beat the windows
        1. udincev
          udincev 28 January 2016 11: 57
          0
          Quote: dzeredzavkomimu
          in France, I remember for raising prices by 3 percent, the shop windows began to beat

          What time to shop windows to beat? Everything - to France !!!
        2. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 28 January 2016 13: 03
          0
          So what kind of traditions do the Franks have - our 90s hyperinflation in the 18th century (and ended with the Great Revolution of 1789), the execution of the royal family - 1792 (we have 1918), and so on and so forth. Therefore, for the Franks - and three percent is already a lot; and to us - like the Komsomol members of the 80s - everything is knee-deep.
      5. Former
        Former 28 January 2016 12: 06
        16
        And I will tolerate ..
        But what’s interesting
        -30 years of "perestroika", her mother!

        1985 - Be patient a little and there will be Heavenly Manna, let us live! (Judas with a map of America on his forehead)
        1991 - Patience, everything will be OK, and by 2000 every family will get an apartment, a car and a villa in the Canaries (just kidding) - Borka Alkash
        2000 - Be patient, everything will hurt! - "Infallible"
        2015- Suffer a little, about 20 years, a New Generation will be born, get up from our knees!

        TIRED !!!!
        I have never voted for "Eat Russia", and even more so for Putin.
        I have never been a fan of him - I soberly assess his "activities":
        - It is enough to look, for example, at the Tomsk Military Hospital, Sibelectromotor, and at least at my TNHK (TNHZ) - and there are a lot of such facilities destroyed during the years of his "reign".

        Yes, and I worked either on a construction site or on a shift, where there are enough different people, from all over our country, I heard enough and saw enough of everyone ...

        Yes, what is the empty grind?
        -Igor Rasteryaev sang excellently about this in the song "Daisies" (by the way, I consider this song the Anthem of "perestroika" and "shitty" reforms)

        Well, I honestly worked (34 years of work experience) - only in Production and Construction, I survived in spite of all this "shitty" trash.

        And what is the bottom line, the result of these 30 years of "perestroika"?
        After 3 years I will retire (2 "hot grid"):
        - Will the "Guarantor" give it to me?

        Of course, I won't die of hunger - I have my own house and personal farming (taught by the bitter experience of "perestroika"), but the fact that my only joy in old age, my favorite toy, an old well-groomed American SUV (yes, yes, it is American and I will tear into shreds anyone who says that I did not deserve it with my honest labor) will stand because of the lack of money for spare parts, although it will be sad, I will survive.

        Yes, and Oil-Mother and Gas-Father will still be needed, but it is difficult to get them without my profession.

        So there will be health - I will work as I now work as a shift.
        In principle, the son is also a shift worker, so I think we will survive.

        But what is annoying is that another "perestroika" is starting again!
        Now the Chinese are to blame for their productivity drop, the Americans and ISIS, the Great Ukrainians and the Mumbo-Yumbo tribe in the Congo mountains (just kidding).

        What kind of State have you BUILT, "Uncle Vova" (I can call it that, our age difference is not that big), which "sausage" from the "price of palm wine" in the Republic of Chad?

        I don’t want the Revolution, 30 years of "perestroika" are many, too many for one person.
        But hatred for the "crap", all those who destroyed my country of the USSR, seethes in my heart ...

        And now I understand those who once stood under the Red Banner of the Bolsheviks ...

        But fear not, there will be no revolution
        Patient Russian people ..
        And after 30 years, a 52 year old man will say like me
        -Oh, Nichrome did not come true, from what Vova promised ...

        And you know, since I think I'm not alone. There are many of us, honest, simple hard workers and who have exceeded as much as 6 dozen and older and young people who are not even 30.
        1. Alexei
          Alexei 28 January 2016 14: 07
          +2
          Quote: Former
          TIRED !!!!
          You will die not having lived as you would like, very sorry.
        2. godun
          godun 28 January 2016 15: 35
          +2
          A cry from the soul ... I agree with you 100. But you can make our shobla at the top work for the country, people don’t need revolutions and riots for this, people ’unity, society need to be united, I understand it is pathetic and beaten, but ... If one says no, nothing will happen, but if 50 million. say no, believe me that they will not only hear, but also do as it was said. Any government wants to be loved and can not stand the noise.
      6. Governor
        Governor 28 January 2016 15: 52
        +2
        Well, Gyulchitai showed her face - she’s ready to live in a * ram, if only Obama could be ruined!
        Glory to the king! Well, or what kind of welcome do you have there ...
  • shooter18
    shooter18 28 January 2016 10: 41
    +2
    strange treatment! I don’t know what’s in my head, but I’ll say that there are still a lot of problems!
    1. udincev
      udincev 28 January 2016 11: 59
      0
      Including the one that the author raised, not one of the latter.
  • Hon
    Hon 28 January 2016 10: 41
    18
    Quote: Wedmak
    Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is, I see them once a year and then on TV. And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.

    yes, only here the prices in rubles are rising and there is no salary
    1. Vend
      Vend 28 January 2016 10: 44
      +4
      Do you know when things will more or less work out for us? And then, when every citizen (by concepts, not by passport) will treat his civic duties as workers. And choose not with your wallet, but with your head. Then the deputies (who would have to cut their somewhat higher salaries once in 100) will not think about compensation for their election expenses, but about the country. As it was in the USSR, when they chose what they deserved
      What are you saying, deservedly. And Khrushchev, and Brezhnev, and Gorbachev were also chosen according to their deserts. laughing
      1. user3970
        user3970 28 January 2016 10: 58
        +7
        Sorry, I’ll get in line. Do not touch Brezhnev from this list.
        1. Vend
          Vend 28 January 2016 11: 59
          +1
          Quote: user3970
          Sorry, I’ll get in line. Do not touch Brezhnev from this list.

          Throne and still as a throne, do not exact. Before Brezhnev's arrival in Omsk in the 80s, the city had everything. After his departure and the phrase "What is this in some kind of shit..on Omsk communism", and then, like in a movie - empty shelves and counters in stores. I was already at school at that time, so I remember.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 28 January 2016 10: 47
      +1
      Give up a bottle of beer in the evening, something.
      1. Hon
        Hon 28 January 2016 11: 18
        +8
        and I don’t drink beer. prices are rising not only for beer, clothes, products from eggs, milk, meat, too, need to refuse? reductions in medicine, obviously soon you will have to refuse medical care, there are paid clinics, but can everyone afford it?
        in fact, you can refuse a lot, you can tighten your belts, but this is against the background of an increase in the salaries of deputies to 800 thousand per month, this is a question of leadership in general, and against the backdrop of the Chubais and Rotenbergs, whose people are personally covered by the guarantor.
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 28 January 2016 11: 22
        10
        Quote: Wedmak
        Give up a bottle of beer in the evening, something.

        And who will refuse it, because they’ve got used to this bottle of beer with fish, but on a soft sofa near the TV or laptop, and a little shame, you need to choose either a fish or a beer, as they take away the holy things, because they are used to it, they think that this is already a mandatory ritual Putin himself had to provide. The 90s forgot how they waited several months for salaries and pensions, but they needed to feed their families. hi
        1. Hon
          Hon 28 January 2016 11: 28
          +5
          Quote: vovanpain
          And who will refuse it, because they’ve got used to this bottle of beer with fish, but on a soft sofa near the TV or laptop, and a little shame, you need to choose either a fish or a beer, as they take away the holy things, because they are used to it, they think that this is already a mandatory ritual and Putin must personally provide. 90s forgot how

          How much oil was then? how would the 90s again not remember
        2. Former
          Former 28 January 2016 15: 47
          +8
          I didn’t forget the 90s ..
          Although I spent only 2 months without money, I remember everything.

          And a bottle of beer in front of the TV (in my case, it’s a trip after a shift on my favorite toy, an old American SUV, I haven’t been drinking anything after a micro stroke for 12 years already), I and many other honest hard workers have earned!

          They deserved it themselves, without any "Putin" and others, by their honest work!
          Rather, in spite of the "efforts" of all these "shitcrats" who have raped the Country, for more than 30 years!

          Well, the 90s ...
          I doubt very much that our "guarantor" and his "entourage" in the 90s, as I worked day and night, as simple laborers, to hell, with him, masters in Production - from work to kalym (construction, electrical installation, general construction), from kalym to work, and in between taxis (I hate the word "bomb") - sometimes for 24 hours I did not get out from behind the steering wheel!
          - Everything to keep the welfare of his family at the level of the USSR.

          I think that our "Infallible" and his "Brigade" are directly related to what happened in the 90s (their current consequences).

          So don’t, about "beer and sofa", don’t, about the fact that they say, "zazhralis", there is nowhere to step from the cars:
          -Simple people, hard workers on whom this Country rests, has the right to rest and to fulfill their, in general, simple desires.

          I am constantly writing about this:
          -Come and tell them that they do not work or do not have the right to the "notorious" "sofa with beer", for example, a cattle foreman, a production operator, a driver leading a fuel truck (for example) along the Siberian winter roads, and any honest worker!
    3. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 28 January 2016 13: 15
      +3
      Quote: Hon
      prices in rubles are rising and there is no salary

      There are two explanations for this phenomenon -
      (1) liberal (according to Kudrin and Nechaev): for wages to grow, labor productivity must grow, and it must grow faster than the growth of s / n
      (2) the reduction in real wages (compared with the cost of living) is an expression of the growth in the degree of exploitation of wage labor by capital.

      Dear <Gon>, which option do you like more?
  • Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 28 January 2016 10: 48
    +6
    We still have not decided for 25 years what type of orientation our state should be, socially oriented, oak capitalist with the imposition of a big bolt on the needs of the population and constant haymaking of taxes and fees, or the a'la Yeltsyn system, do what you want, feed yourself as you want, but don't bother the state, the main thing is to vote, otherwise you will lose! Therefore, government ministers, having come to office, furnished and fed, build a management system for their direction the way he sees it, and how it is easier and more profitable for him. The result is obvious, and therefore nothing changes from the change of ministers. hi
  • Gxash
    Gxash 28 January 2016 10: 49
    +4
    It is necessary to invest money in the economy, and Siluanov and Ulyukaev only put sticks in the wheels. They have a task - there is money in the country, but we will give them ... So what?
  • Mahmut
    Mahmut 28 January 2016 11: 02
    15
    The child wrote an article. Come to the polls and choose the honest one. Honest ones are cut off at the stage of candidate candidates.
    As for Putin, it seems that he really thinks that the front with the enemies of Russia passes through the Euphrates River. And inside there is silence and grace, with the exception of minor misunderstandings. But in order to continue to keep him in a similar informational cocoon, the head of the administration serves.
  • UralMan
    UralMan 28 January 2016 11: 43
    0
    Quote: Wedmak
    I do not care,

    Do not care ... who are you
    Throw out his TV and that's it ... all the news will be told by the grandmother sitting on the blockade, which is even better. Yeah ... how so about the New Year's "Ogonyok" forgot ... nothing to run to your neighbor to see and for one glass on the way to overturn ... after all, a year flew by, did not die. Why do we need to watch the courses in moors, dollars soldar, we still buy for the scars. And the computer is in the trash, why does it ... interfere ... well. There will be no need to think, there will be nothing to compare ... how good is that aaaaaaa, not life but grace, I bought "TRUTH" benefit.
    Quote: Wedmak
    purchases for rubles

    What are you talking about ... for what rubles a mubli?
    You tell this to the collective farmer, maybe he will believe it, he won’t send it right yet, they also began to read and count, among other things they know how ... I think you aren’t stupid, so they will show the right direction to go and say good.
    And what this or that price of a product is made up of and how many dollars it sits there, so the Almighty knows about ... and in the production of the product how many swells are green, but they must be given ... so the cursor came to you ... WELL TRACKS?
    So ... what do we pay for in the store? and to whom and how much, etc., etc.
    Quote: Wedmak
    there is food in stores, clothes are

    but about FOOD and CLOTHING you just don’t want to talk here ...
    This is another topic ...
  • Scoun
    Scoun 28 January 2016 12: 22
    +1
    Quote: Wedmak
    Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are.

    I agree with this, I had no and no dollars, but additional hemorrhoids appeared at work.
    Quote: Wedmak
    I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is,

    Due to the nonsense of our dollar, Europeans began to contact us with requests for a comprehensive supply (which I can answer in a personal message to people, I won’t advertise here) in our country this position costs 60-70 rubles with VAT per m2 and in Europe 2.34 euros without VAT per m2 + VAT 22% In total, this material costs 187 rubles m2 in rubles and 228 rubles m2 with VAT (I calculated 80 for each euro) and it turns out that our product group is three times cheaper than theirs. So we are working hard.

    And now for "urya"! comrades .. at the expense of how their business is supported.
    Builders erecting a house for someone, from the customer receive money only for services / work and for the cost of materials BUT! they don’t try to sell and somehow increase the price of materials since then they get 11% from the state (they have 22% VAT) and a lot of other things ..)) but it’s not so simple. Personally, I would drop oil to the value of $ 0 per barrel.
    1. iConst
      iConst 28 January 2016 12: 40
      +2
      Quote: Scoun
      Due to the nonsense of our dollar, Europeans began to contact us with requests for a comprehensive supply (which I can answer in a personal message to people, I won’t advertise here) in our country this position costs 60-70 rubles with VAT per m2 and in Europe 2.34 euros without VAT per m2 + VAT 22% In total, this material costs 187 rubles m2 in rubles and 228 rubles m2 with VAT (I calculated 80 for each euro) and it turns out that our product group is three times cheaper than theirs. So we are working hard.
      - Everything is fine, but: how much does this your secret position depend on imported raw materials and equipment? If you say - not at all, then I will not believe.

      I have not seen anything 100% domestic: raw materials / components, machines, technologies.

      Well, except for the children - and that’s because they are not made with hands ... laughing

      Therefore, the situation is this: a competitive advantage in the form of a price has a short-term effect. Moreover - this is a harmful effect. Essentially dumping.
      And, when the stocks of raw materials bought earlier come to an end and components for machine tools or the machines themselves have to be purchased, the only factor will be the salary of workers.

      Are you interested in the prospect of being a Vietnamese? I don’t.

      So enough fairy tales about the positive effect of national currency subsidence.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 28 January 2016 14: 34
        0
        Quote: iConst
        Everything is fine, but: how much does this your secret position depend on imported raw materials and equipment? If you say - not at all, then I will not believe.

        2007 year

        ... The TechnoNICOL concept Vladimir Markov: “It's time to move from import substitution to increasing exports” After the introduction ... About 3-5 years elapsed from planning to the start of serious export sales, the same amount ...
        TekhnoNIKOL increases stone wool exports ...
        st.finam.ru ›ipo / memorandum \ 2657_Technonicol_2 ...
        Currently, TekhnoNIKOL Group of Companies is exporting four types of products: • rolled bitumen and bitumen-polymer ... 2007 export sales growth planned Only in these areas is more than 30%.
        See

        2015 from England to China
        Export - page 6 - Made with us
        sdelanounas.ru ›blogs /? id = 74 & page = 5
        Since mid-2015 TechnoNICOL began active promotion of its products in the People's Republic of China. ... The decline in export growth was primarily due to a decrease in sales of services provided ...
        January 22 2016

        The Russian company Eidos-medicine from Kazan, which is a resident of the Skolkovo Foundation's biomedical technology cluster, has delivered its simulation robots to Tokyo's largest medical university in Japan, Djuntendo, to train students in surgical operations.

        Production equipment successfully launched at Severnaya TPP (Estonia) Kaluga Turbine Plant

        EVRAZ is now represented in all segments of the European market of railway wheels: wheel blanks, draft and finishing wheels for freight cars. The first batch of wheel billets (NLZ 430) was shipped by EVRAZ NTMK to Germany in the summer of 2015. In the near future, an experimental batch of procurement will be delivered to the Czech Republic.

        Export
        Altai equipment purchased in Germany directly at the exhibition
        When visitors to the stand found out that we were Russians, they asked in surprise: “Do you really produce it in Russia?” And respectfully shook hands with us, ”says Maxim Savinkov, director of the company.

        You probably just have a different internet)))
        Tomsk Polytechnic University received the gold medal of the national award "Exporter of the Year" and was among the 20 leading enterprises that this year showed the best results in terms of export of technical equipment. At the same time, TPU became the only university among the award winners. Over the past five years, the Tomsk Polytechnic University delivered more than 200 betatrons to the UK alone.
        1. iConst
          iConst 28 January 2016 14: 52
          +1
          Quote: Scoun
          You probably just have a different internet)))

          - So how about a question? What is the percentage of "purebred"? Huh?

          All the examples above are laughter. These are single and piece moments. And again: from what and on what is this all made?

          The question is rhetorical. smile

          Here people are fuming about 100% of the "domestic" Bosch.
          There is not a single factory producing household microchips, displays. And Bosch is 100%! Even the name! Piss yourself! laughing
          1. Scoun
            Scoun 28 January 2016 15: 21
            +1
            Quote: iConst
            - So how about a question? What is the percentage of "purebred"? Huh?

            Quote: iConst
            All the examples above are laughter.

            I don’t know what’s funny, but there are no such examples from you. I do not shrug and do not srupolymers, there are a lot of difficulties and difficulties, but things are worth looking at realistically. Somewhere it is quite a misfortune, somewhere it is better, and I myself have personally cited the export links of the nuclear industry of South Korea and the Russian Federation ... where the indicator is very sad for us .. but just do not put everything in one basket "pro-salipolymer".
            Quote: iConst
            There is not a single factory producing household microchips, displays.

            The key word "household use" and then slyness, in your opinion, how to organize the production of "household schemes" if there was a continuous dominance akin to that of aviation.
            Where is our civil aviation and where is the military? ... Yes? different levels ?!
            Literally in November, the 18th superjet went to Mexico and just recently there was a decision in the CIS countries to transfer communications and communications connected with PCs to domestic equipment, and by the way, this very crisis gives our manufacturers a chance to reach the level of "household production"
            Domestic PCs are very much in demand in their sector, but the cost of one PC in a set was 400.000 thousand rubles.
            And work in this direction has been ongoing for a long time.
            Initially, the production of the 65-45nm factory was supposed to be made partially under state order: domestic chips for new biopassports, for the GLONASS system, for replacing imported processors in devices for the defense industry. The commercial part of demand was poorly predictable - this has not changed even now. However, the state’s interest in import substitution is growing, and recent state projects involving Mikron are quite grandiose - for example, the introduction of civilian electronic passports, which are planned to be issued everywhere in 2016.
            In July of this year, Mikron invited the state to jointly produce 28 nm chips, similar to those made by Samsung and Qualcomm. The project costs $ 1,5 billion, and to create such a factory, Mikron will probably have to develop its own next technology, since foreign technologies for manufacturing chips of the last three topological levels - 22 nm, 28 nm and 32 nm - are prohibited for sale in a number of countries including Russia. Now the project is being discussed by the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the Ministry of Economy and the Ministry of Finance, Dianov said.
            “It is still possible to reach the production of microcircuits using 45 nm technology through a thorough modernization of existing production capacities, but for 28 nm it is necessary to create a fundamentally new production.
            1. iConst
              iConst 28 January 2016 16: 21
              +1
              Quote: Scoun
              I don’t know what’s funny, but from you there are no such examples.

              “I'm at a standstill: you either don’t understand, or you play the pipe.”
              I’m talking about Thomas: any more or less efficient production is stopped by amepicos at a time. They poke a finger at a specific Russian enterprise and command the whole world: do not buy / do not sell. That's it - production is covered. Because either raw materials or machines / spare parts / consumables im-port-n-e. This is not to mention the price.


              Quote: Scoun
              The key word "for household use" and then slyness
              - It is household! They don’t count money for war. Amerikos with F35 will not soon come out in profit (if they come out). But you have to!
              How many people from the entire working-age population work for the "war"? That's it.

              The main GDP is made up of household goods and services.

              Quote: Scoun
              Just in November, the 18th superjet went to Mexico

              - Yeah. Bankrupt enterprise. Well, well ... Especially in the context of sanctions in these areas of the filling.

              Quote: Scoun
              ... literally recently there was a decision in the CIS countries to transfer and PC-related communications to domestic equipment ...

              - My dear, we have heard about these decisions for decades. Why did you decide that a government that, contrary to the logic of even inexperienced people did nothing, will solve this problem?
              Quote: Scoun
              ... but for 28 nm you need to create a fundamentally new production.

              - Do you imagine what it means to establish the production of microchips? Yes, even on an industrial scale.
              I'm afraid not so much.

              I think this project will go to dust, because the Americans will not allow this. Be calm - they are closely following Russian technology and will do everything possible to slow down development.

              In the table of ranks they assigned for Russia the place of a regional raw-material power. They do not hide it.
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 28 January 2016 12: 31
    -7
    There is still such an option for the interpretation of recent events in the world.
  • max702
    max702 28 January 2016 12: 41
    11
    One question for the author, but how is it?
    1. dgiguli1962
      dgiguli1962 28 January 2016 13: 34
      0
      And why, at least, did not bring their s / n for an example?
      1. max702
        max702 28 January 2016 15: 49
        +3
        Quote: dgiguli1962
        And why, at least, did not bring their s / n for an example?

        If I stayed to work where I worked in 2000, then 11000 are now 21000 ..
        The fact that I completely changed my life and now making more money is my merit and my mistake, I gained something and lost something .. But the fact is that the salary in the old place doubled, and the price tag is FOUR ..
    2. grandson of Perun
      grandson of Perun 28 January 2016 15: 13
      +1
      Quote: max702
      One question for the author, but how is it?

      I'll try to guess ...
      Maybe because of excise taxes, of which half in the price of gasoline?
      1. max702
        max702 28 January 2016 15: 54
        +3
        Quote: Perun's grandson

        I'll try to guess ...
        Maybe because of excise taxes, of which half in the price of gasoline?

        Sorry, but who prescribes these excise taxes? And who puts these people in this work, and who controls their work? No way we are with you .. So the claims are justified ..
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 January 2016 18: 41
      +1
      Easy - costs are increasing, and gasoline is growing, as more than half of the cost of a liter of gasoline goes to the treasury.
  • Douglas
    Douglas 28 January 2016 12: 45
    +3
    And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.


    Why stupid? To deny everything is of course a solution. Calm yourself to find an excuse. Well, this is a solution.
    But I'm glad that in RUSSIA an understanding comes that something is wrong in the country. AU RUSSIA WAKE up enough to pay tribute of a billion a day. A country that pays tribute cannot be a world power.
  • TROG
    TROG 28 January 2016 13: 09
    +4
    Drive everything! Once a year he looks.
    Then you probably don’t have a car, and they are known from foreign components. Even city buses that drive around your city consist of 90% of them. Our people, except the frame and the body, can do nothing.
    And you are probably sitting at the computer of your neighbor. And so you would know that all this equipment is tied to the dollar. The same is about household equipment. And you wear Hopnite clothes on a hike. Because high-quality clothes are also tied to the dollar. stores now this is a low-grade product. This used to be lying around for a penny in stores. So when a pipe starts flowing in your apartment, you will be pleasantly surprised to learn that all sorts of fittings and taps are also tied to the dollar. Everything that surrounds us is done abroad or in the best case from foreign components. Even poor bolts and nuts, self-tapping screws - "pieces of iron" we have forgotten how to make.
  • shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 28 January 2016 14: 08
    +4
    It's not about the dollar, it's about the fact that we don’t have a government, we have mother hens sitting on their eggs and waiting for oil to rise in price or grab something else, especially now, a good time, you can grab it for nothing. It’s just evil not enough until this continues!
  • _my opinion
    _my opinion 28 January 2016 14: 22
    0
    Quote: Wedmak
    Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is, I see them once a year and then on TV. And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.

    I get the impression that interest in the value of the dollar / euro in ruble terms is being fueled deliberately, everywhere in the "news" they try to talk about it ... as if there are no normal topics.
  • EngineerP
    EngineerP 28 January 2016 14: 24
    0
    "Every nation has the government it deserves": -
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  • ram_design
    ram_design 28 January 2016 10: 32
    19
    It’s time to get off the oil needle.
    Earth is, sensible people are. Resources rampart.
    Could provide themselves all.
    1. Hon
      Hon 28 January 2016 10: 53
      -2
      Quote: ram_design
      Could provide themselves all.

      could but cannot
    2. demo
      demo 28 January 2016 11: 02
      +8
      Yes, just a shaft.
      But only after "Sam" nods his head, only after that something starts to move with a creak.
      And why not?
      Yes, because any independence of subordinates causes a higher suspicion among those above that someone has created a feeding trough for himself.
      And this is in power structures "The first deadly sin".
      So you can run into "Loss of trust".

      Therefore, while the supreme, of any level - the city, district, region-region-republic, etc. if he does not give consent and does not determine how much to him or his relatives - nothing will go.
      ABSOLUTELY.

      I’m talking about what I know very well.
      He began to promote certain topics.
      ALL has passed!
      From a simple clerk in a city district to the President of the Russian Federation.
      Everywhere the same thing.

      But he did not stop believing in Russia.
      He lived. I live and I will live here.
      Both children and grandchildren live here.

      And what a pity that the ruble did not become the promised reserve currency.
      But they were so horoing!

      You just have to open the bread for the mind.
      And do not caress your tongue for nothing.
      For a world-class official, this is not excusable.
    3. Manul
      Manul 28 January 2016 11: 55
      +2
      Quote: ram_design
      It’s time to get off the oil needle.

      How did this liberal mantra get you! This is not a "needle", but a resource that many countries trade. Why does no one blame them for oil dependence? The same Norway, for example?
    4. Douglas
      Douglas 28 January 2016 12: 50
      0
      It’s time to get off the oil needle.
      Earth is, sensible people are. Resources rampart.
      Could provide themselves all.


      Bravo author good
  • Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 28 January 2016 10: 33
    +6
    In fact, everything is true, but poking readers in the face in their own g .... - is not good.
    1. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 28 January 2016 10: 47
      +6
      The issue of voter turnout was raised correctly! I have many acquaintances who do not go to the polls at all, believing that everything is already decided there, and so on, to take relatives - last fall with difficulty I dragged my wife to the polls, and she went only for that so that the former mayor does not become governor, he was not elected in the city, but he was elected in an area where no one knew what kind of guy he was. I went because everything was decided there, HOW SO? When will people start judging by their deeds and not by fiery speeches from blue screens? what The year is just beginning, the region is heavily incurring debts, but debts have to be paid, but we cannot complete the construction of the cosmodrome, but they don’t know what to do with the last one, after the flood of 2013 the construction has calmed down, there is no money .. ... hiMore about the elections, just count, out of 100 voters, 40 (40 percent!) Came, of which 1–20 were for the candidate, the rest were divided between the three candidates. What we have is 50 percent for the number 1 candidate, FIFTY PERCENT, Karl, but this is 20 percent of a hundred, so think about whose interests candidate No. 1 represents and how failure to appear contributes to his advancement in power!
      1. aleks_29296
        aleks_29296 28 January 2016 11: 09
        +1
        More about the elections, just count - out of 100 voters, 40 came (40 percent!),


        In fact, the percentage of those who voted is slightly higher, there is simply such a technology of spoiling bulletins to get the desired result for the candidate, which was lowered from above.
        1. aleks_29296
          aleks_29296 28 January 2016 14: 12
          +1
          Judging by the minuses, for some I apparently discovered a state secret? Naive, do you really believe in fair elections?
      2. max702
        max702 28 January 2016 16: 09
        +5
        There was once a point in the ballot "against all" then it would make sense to go to the polls now NO! Having an admin resource before the elections, only "correct" people are allowed, weed out those who are unpleasant at the early stages from those who have a million admin resources! And the abolition of "against all" in general turned the elections into a profanation! then the people could out of spite twice vote against the "correct" and all candidates are closed to them! So they removed it so that there was less hemorrhage ..
        RS: In general, I consider the elections to be a vain hypocritical affair absolutely not necessary, for they have chosen .. and then the author broadcasts they themselves have chosen! yeah .. yourself .. Let our biggest boss (he has real power) appoint his neighbors himself, and they vertically follow .. And you can always see who put this thief and idiot? Not some kind of abstract people, but Ivan Ivanovitch ... so let him be responsible for this action .. otherwise they had a good power, but no responsibility!
    2. Manul
      Manul 28 January 2016 17: 45
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      In fact, everything is true, but poking readers in the face in their own g .... - is not good.

      Call everyone and poke everyone yes Like - I’m done well alone, but you sons profiled the country, and you are in demand.
  • Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 28 January 2016 10: 34
    +5
    Putin is the president, so he is responsible for all the failures. Direct. He recruited a team of officials, he chose a strategy. It was he, and not VO forum users or Uncle Vasya from a neighboring entrance.

    Attempts to blame responsibility for the failures of the last 16 years on Lenin, the State Department and the Martians are absurd, absurd and only make the people angry.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 28 January 2016 10: 37
      +1
      Like Putin himself sits and tackle everything and everyone? What then does the government do? And this whole fraternity called the Duma? So what for all to blame, there are many idiots everywhere.
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 28 January 2016 10: 42
        12
        Personally, he should not be taxed. But he must recruit people who, in turn, will recruit people - and so on - who must taxi out at a particular site.

        Putin scored those who overwhelmed everything: Ukraine, the economy, science, everything. But at the same time only the boyars are bad ...
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 28 January 2016 10: 50
          +6
          Quote: Kibalchish
          . But he must recruit people who in turn will recruit people -

          You have a strange logic, he must recruit people who will recruit people, who will still recruit people, and so on, and all will be happy. hi
          1. Kibalchish
            Kibalchish 28 January 2016 10: 52
            +7
            Quote: vovanpain

            You have a strange logic, he must recruit people who will recruit people who will still recruit people and so on and there will be all happiness.


            Confusedly wrote yes - but in general the meaning is this.
        2. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 28 January 2016 10: 59
          +1
          Quote: Kibalchish
          Putin scored those who overwhelmed everything: Ukraine, ....

          about Ukraine - more in detail what
        3. dzeredzavkomimu
          dzeredzavkomimu 28 January 2016 11: 33
          11
          yeah, like the tsar in 1905, the poor man didn’t know anything, so people went to complain to him and he shot them. People at least don’t tell me that Putin should respond to the failures of the ministers and not block them, why is he needed then? commander in chief?
        4. Manul
          Manul 29 January 2016 11: 00
          0
          Quote: Kibalchish
          Personally, he should not be taxed. But he must recruit people who, in turn, will recruit people - and so on - who must taxi out at a particular site.

          Power is a flow of money. It is difficult to "recruit" people in power. "Elite" has been and will be at all times. And you can't pick up people from the street - if you please choose from what is nearby. And if the "elite" is not satisfied with your choice, then you can part with the chair and life. Maneuver, maneuver, but don’t get out. So the president is twisting his tails, but apparently so far he cannot be stronger. Another option is a variant of the Stalinist maintenance of order. But here it is for sure - the wood is chopped, the chips will fly. And the chips will be bloody and innocent will get to the full. This is what the operation requires, healthy tissues also suffer.
          Would you put things in order if you became president? You would say menacingly to the LADY and Chubais - "Oh, you devils! Yes, I will take you to Siberia!"
          Or they will look at you with a grin and say, "they will" fit in "for us, but for you?"
      2. Hon
        Hon 28 January 2016 10: 54
        10
        Quote: Wedmak
        Like Putin himself sits and tackle everything and everyone?

        he would at least steer
      3. Woodman
        Woodman 28 January 2016 11: 07
        -4
        Putin, probably, also raises the price of gasoline himself, and he personally dictates the price of the products to each store ... And the owners of gas stations and shops, well, absolutely nothing to do with it, they probably starve themselves)))
        1. dzeredzavkomimu
          dzeredzavkomimu 28 January 2016 11: 38
          +5
          and what do you think, why gasoline is cheap in the usa, but because there are laws protecting consumers, and prices will not jump 100%, otherwise you’ll fly out of the market, because they have a bunch of inspectors who are observing business and even residents and tenants, can we also take an example from them? Or do we have a different path? As they say, through thorns to the stars? Look at their rate of the central bank, they understand that cheap credits are a development, give us such and the economy will rise, money will increase -goods-money, everywhere they understand it, but ours are either pretending or really fools, they have not departed from speculation
          1. Tu-214R
            Tu-214R 28 January 2016 12: 50
            +9
            Quote: dzeredzavkomimu
            and what do you think, why gasoline is cheap in the usa, but because there are laws protecting consumers, and prices will not jump 100%, otherwise you’ll fly out of the market, because they have a bunch of inspectors who are observing business and even residents and landlords, can we also take an example from them?

            All this is called in one word. control... As soon as we talk about state control over someone, a wild howl, diligently "fanned" by the media, begins. Business shouts that the state presses, does not allow to work, to present statistics on capital outflow. Conversations reach the point that communism is returning. Immediately, foreign parliaments and departments begin to show concern. And then everything / everything calms down, talk about control stops, moratoriums on business checks are introduced - everyone is happy. And the dissatisfied are themselves to blame, because "the authorities themselves chose."
        2. Boos
          Boos 28 January 2016 11: 48
          +2
          No, of course not Putin, Lenin gets up from the Mausoleum at night and walks, raises the price tags ... Your Putin’s icon blew up, why are there such cries about the people’s not being fair to him?
          Quote: Lesovik
          Putin, probably, also raises the price of gasoline himself, and he personally dictates the price of the products to each store ... And the owners of gas stations and shops, well, absolutely nothing to do with it, they probably starve themselves)))
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 28 January 2016 12: 35
            0
            why such cries about not justice of the people to him?


            Because we BELIEVE him!
            But I don’t have icons with Putin))) I trust him as a person)))
    2. demo
      demo 28 January 2016 11: 05
      +1
      He just got a little late with these explanations.
      About twenty years.
      After all, everything was clear to me, his peer, but he didn’t! Why?
      It was just tiptop.
      That was not necessary.
  • Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 28 January 2016 10: 34
    10
    Rzhaka, not an article!
    I read everything and concluded for myself: "How many more such shit will come out in the near future!" Although...
    With this author's name - Skomorokhov, he justifies it 100% !!!)))))))
    1. KOH
      KOH 28 January 2016 11: 05
      -3
      For dollars, the straight howling of marshals and generals ...)))) Intoesno it even groans when the dollar becomes 100, will the whiners hang themselves? ...)))))
    2. demo
      demo 28 January 2016 11: 08
      +3
      Do not get personal.
      The author is in many ways right.
      But the goal of the article, as it seemed to me, is not to face us in our own city ... but to make us more responsible towards the person we choose.
      And they whined less and thought more "in front".
      And then in hindsight, everyone is strong.
    3. askort154
      askort154 28 January 2016 11: 44
      +7
      Mihalich17 .... I read it all and made a conclusion for myself: "How many more such shit will come out in the near future!" ...

      The closer to the elections, the greater the flow of "criticism" not only from abroad, but also from within. We have already gone through this. There are a lot of critics, and creators, one or two, and got it. Casting a vote is not a problem, the problem is in a short list of worthy ones.
      The author had to be frank to the end and publish his list of "rescuers of Russia." Although this list is not new: Kasyanov, Navalny, Ryzhkov,
      Kasparov, Nadezhdin, Khodorkovsky, Kudrin, Gref .....
      These are all political corpses. The lessons of the 90s, and a fresh "Ukrainian democracy" have already been deposited in the genes of Russians. Russians cannot be driven into a rake without weapons.
  • Brutal
    Brutal 28 January 2016 10: 35
    22
    Here, what, what, and the tendency to whine I have lost in the days of the USSR. To grumble, yes, I can and can. Maybe just because I didn't feel "dollar up, barrel down"! I did not feel it! Yes, groceries and some consumer goods have risen a little, but gasoline has dropped a little in price. Let it be a penny, but nice. And, whine, well, what an example for my children and grandchildren?! And, whining under the covers, there is no point: whining, in my opinion it is necessary in public and with a tear, otherwise what is the use ?! So he grumbled and felt better ...
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 28 January 2016 10: 39
    +3
    If in short, when you go to vote, think. I do not like Ulyukaev, so do not vote for the current deputies and the current president. If you leave deputies or the president. then again there will be Ulyukaev or someone similar to him, but with a different surname.
  • Putinets
    Putinets 28 January 2016 10: 41
    0
    Strange, the author had more adequate articles and the analysis was kind of good. And here in the style of "take it out and put it down, I want it so much." Only cats will be born quickly.j And if there is any trust in the leader, it should not be thrown away at every whim or in the mood
  • Andrey Draganov
    Andrey Draganov 28 January 2016 10: 41
    -6
    Second-rate author Ch.M.O. the article shows that the first crybaby is just the same! The situation that is happening now does not depend on Crimea or Syria, this situation has been brewing since the 90s. Only our enemies relaxed and decided that we would fall apart on our own. And now realizing that this will not happen, they are tripled to put down their country. The author of the campaign is very Glad to be lowered. The author look around the world now all sausages and this is because of = Syria and Crimea ????
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 28 January 2016 10: 55
      13
      Quote: Andrey Draganov
      Second-rate author Ch.M.O. the article shows that the first crybaby is just the same!

      And you better take a look at yourself, for which the author calls on everyone. hi
    2. Sergei 34
      Sergei 34 28 January 2016 11: 11
      +6
      I completely agree. If they returned Crimea, they would demand to cut the army in half, reduce it, demand to place their military bases on our territory ... they will press and put forward demands until they complete what they have not completed. in the 90s. Either they will ruin us, or they themselves will fall apart. There will be no "peace, friendship, chewing gum".
  • Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 28 January 2016 10: 42
    +8
    As it was in the USSR when they chose according to their deserts, and not if possible, to pay for the campaign. Then it will be better.

    Do not tell my slippers. In the USSR, the elections were a complete fiction. How old are you, Roman? Did you go to the polls in those days? Now it’s kind of shitier and there is a choice, but for the most part, the same eggs are current in profile. Yes, everything has risen in price but not critical for someone who wants to live a normal life. I have the honor hi


    Wedmak (1) RU  Today, 10:32 New


    Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is, I see them once a year and then on TV. And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.

    I agree to all 1000%.
  • igorra
    igorra 28 January 2016 10: 43
    23
    Dear author, did you sit in the election committee, didn’t see the lawlessness? Yes, the people before United Russia, as it were, to put it mildly, but I won’t be better, they will be banned. If you again enter the graph against all, then those in power will be greatly surprised by popular love.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 28 January 2016 12: 40
      +8
      It was not for nothing that under Putin the column "AGAINST ALL" was removed from the ballot papers ...
      Democracy, tudyt her to the swing ....
  • Same lech
    Same lech 28 January 2016 10: 43
    +7
    And then on the same couch we lie and ache, they say how bad everything is. And we are looking for the guilty. And, which is the coolest, we find. Putin's I applaud.


    Do not stand feet ROMAN or something got up today what
    I decided to press the sofa category of people ....
    smile ... by pressing further what?

    People will always whine, cry, suffer and curse ...
    Is there an object of criticism? ...there is.
    The form of criticism is chosen depending on the character of the person .... ROMAN will never be able to redo this.
    Well, in general, with a cold mind, you need to relate to the emotions of people ... calmly, without noise and dust.
    And we can achieve a single opinion only by lying in orderly rows in the cemetery.
    smile As a joke, I propose introducing into NVO subsections for violent, especially violent, couch warriors, specialists and people who do not care.
  • Batia
    Batia 28 January 2016 10: 45
    -3
    According to the content of the article, I agree with the author. Many began to break. Correctly poked, with a file on an oak table. If you’re going to the barrage tank, then don’t turn off and don’t.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 28 January 2016 13: 06
      +6
      Dad, you're wrong!
      The author simply acted as a helpful scribbler!
      In childhood, such "correct boys" who were gearing up to older and stronger ones simply arranged the "dark" one!
      One thing infuriates - how can you indiscriminately accuse the whole people of "inaction" - they say you, idiots, are not voting for those!
      The Tsar and the boyars are good, and you rabble are stupid and lazy, and therefore "serve you right" ... this is the main message of his writings!

      Ugh, disgusting ...
  • shinobi
    shinobi 28 January 2016 10: 45
    +5
    A masochist or something? Do you like how you are dipped in the city, but go to work as an asinizer. They predicted a fall in oil prices when they did, they would catch up to 100 dollars and collapse again. They said about this last jump / fall. Vali from the resource .
  • Gavril
    Gavril 28 January 2016 10: 45
    +3
    In short, the essence of the article is, as always, the same "Now, if they voted for Navalny, everyone would wear white trousers!"
  • svarog888
    svarog888 28 January 2016 10: 46
    +4
    "Obviously, something needs to be changed. What, dear patriots, is it time for Maidan? Or for Bolotnaya?" Go through the forest with calls like this
    1. Anita
      Anita 28 January 2016 11: 33
      +1
      Maybe it makes sense at first to think well about what you read, and then send it to addresses.
  • surrozh
    surrozh 28 January 2016 10: 47
    +2
    "It all depends on me" (serf blacksmith from the movie / "Formula of Love").
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 28 January 2016 10: 47
    15
    And choose not with your wallet, but with your head.
    He always voted his head and always went to the polls. Only my voice disappeared in the unknown. But out of harm, I will go and vote!
    And it is a pity that there is no column "AGAINST ALL"! hi
  • Tuchkis
    Tuchkis 28 January 2016 10: 47
    0
    yes let it bring down from the country to Europe, it’s better there to cry here, go abroad and enjoy life there together with the migrants and mom Merkel
  • Sober
    Sober 28 January 2016 10: 50
    -3
    High-quality muck. And decorated with taste. And the facts are given, you can’t argue. But, most importantly, why this provocation was written, two words: Putin is to blame.
  • engineer74
    engineer74 28 January 2016 10: 52
    +3
    Maybe rude, but on the topic! good Every citizen is responsible for the country, this is different from a resident, it does not matter in the elections, at work, in raising children - remember about the Motherland!
    Sorry for the pathos ... repeat
    (personally, the last elections in 5t.r. cost me a fine for speeding, I was in a hurry to work from the hut, so I don’t know who and how they paid for the votes smile )
    1. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 28 January 2016 12: 12
      +4
      17 times I was in the commission, so for your haste I would have written a fine in triple the amount for naivety:) - good luck
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 28 January 2016 14: 04
        -1
        Quote: Leshy74
        17 times I was in the commission, so for your haste I would have written a fine in triple the amount for naivety:) - good luck

        If you were in the commission, then, probably, the fake protocols were signed? Yes, you, it turns out, are ready for a crime for a day off! Of course, Putin is also to blame for this?
        wink
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 January 2016 10: 52
    17
    I wanted to give a damn about your dollar, I don’t have them.
    Regarding criticism of the government, the author is absolutely wrong, criticism on the contrary says that people wake up and give an assessment of the reality surrounding them.
    And they support the president not for beautiful eyes, but for giving the opportunity to be proud of their country, and for the Crimea, and for Syria, and for the Armed Forces, and for howling in the west, looking like they seemingly before their eyes - killed, drunken, crumbling Russia is getting back on its feet, launching "Caliber", building "Armata", "Bastions" from which different "cookies" run without looking back. And here's a horseradish from a tubercle, would you like?
    So do not whine, there will be a holiday on our street.
  • viktorrymar
    viktorrymar 28 January 2016 10: 52
    +9
    The novel decided to cause a heated discussion)))
    He grabbed everyone under one comb: and cheers of patriots and patriots, and even Patriots, by whom
    he actually considers himself - a Patriot with the letter P.
    It turned out maliciously.
    For the thinker with his head, whom Roman considers himself to be, it should be clear that 90% of the mass of the population is inert, because they cannot all be commanders and leaders, here comes the lord - the lord will always judge this is the majority position, therefore the lord is to blame when life is getting worse. Well, if you Roman decided to poke his nose with the people in his weakness, and cause in his soul shame and determination to be different from the moment you read your opus, then your impulse is noble, but I hope it will remain without a response. Since it’s better to let the people sit on the couch, raise children, suck the news on the Internet, drink beer - in general, they live peacefully because waking up and displeased people are scary, and no leader can cope with this element.
    Revolutions, as you know, never grew out of the people, the people were patient, all coups were thirsty for power and ordinary people playing in weak places, hungry for power or glory, indulging in their pride. Everyone remembers how many good deeds you did when you traveled to New Russia, and you did it with the help of VO readers, but this does not give you the right to judge, for you are not God. Good deeds are done in silence, and not for glory and pride, but for God.
    Sorry if offended by anything.
  • Funnels
    Funnels 28 January 2016 10: 54
    +5
    I did not vote for Yeltsin, and neither did Medvedev. Yes, for Putin, and if there are elections tomorrow, I will vote for him again. Well, I don’t see a single candidate or person of Stalin level in our country. Maybe somewhere there, in the shade, but so far there is no alternative to GDP.
  • Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 28 January 2016 10: 54
    -1
    Quote: BRUTAL
    That's what, what, and I lost the penchant for whining back in the days of the USSR. Grumble, yes, I can and can.

    The same "trick" and me, comrade!
    "Smear the snot" is useless!
  • Flinky
    Flinky 28 January 2016 10: 54
    0
    An oil painting: a part of our absolutely inert and very corrupt electorate whines that the deputies she chose and the ministers appointed by the deputies are swindlers and muddle.

    Here neither diminish nor add.
  • Hubun
    Hubun 28 January 2016 10: 54
    -2
    Crap. In my attitude to GDP, nothing has changed. I still approve of what I do. I still support
  • sir_obs
    sir_obs 28 January 2016 10: 55
    +6
    Enough of bullshit about oil to drive. Oil was cheaper not so long ago, but it did not affect the dollar. Take at least the 2008 crisis. This is a question for Naebulina.
    Tales about the oil needle and allow you to twirl the ruble, as you like.
    It is necessary to work, not to grind the tongue. And those voting about what and how to do it are an order of magnitude more than those who really work hard.
    Meet the author of the article, give him a bribe.
    1. Sober
      Sober 28 January 2016 12: 13
      +1
      Quote: sir_obs
      Meet the author of the article, give him a bribe.

      So he already seems to be a bribe taker. Or do you mean something else. Then I agree.
  • el coyote
    el coyote 28 January 2016 10: 56
    +4
    And then, when every citizen (by concepts, not by passport) will treat his civil duties as workers.


    Oh, I beg you, most of the citizens treat their work duties with the same disdain. This world is ruled by Pofig. For what they didn’t bother - then don’t care. It doesn’t care, it don’t care, it doesn’t matter. And where does the rest of the ambition come from and the desire to do at least something when he is immediately told - "but you don't care?" You have to work for yourself, and not look at your neighbor's payroll. and to work well, because it is bad - it always works by itself. And from such citizens who, if only to lie on the stove and chew rolls, who do not read, and form their opinion on the basis of information received in the smoking room, a majority is formed who will not do anything, but that there is nothing done blame Putin.
  • Million
    Million 28 January 2016 10: 57
    +5
    The main news in the morning is the dollar and euro, the cost of a barrel of oil. Ask any schoolchild or old man, everyone knows the approximate or exact cost.
    I support Putin’s foreign policy, but inside the country there’s a complete mess in everything except the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs
  • Ebundey Mukhryuev
    Ebundey Mukhryuev 28 January 2016 10: 57
    +2
    I don’t understand the author escaped from a psychiatric hospital, or slipped on ice and hit his head?
    1. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 28 January 2016 11: 08
      +1
      Ebundey Mukhryuev
      Oh well laughing
  • Berber
    Berber 28 January 2016 10: 58
    +1
    I do not quite agree with the author. VV is not a god and does not distribute manna, but he built up a political system for himself. The good thing is that he is a living politician and reacts to the masses.
  • demandy1
    demandy1 28 January 2016 10: 58
    +2
    Where did the "urya" go — we closed our mouths and plowed, and the buffoons from not fucking making articles write and shit into the soul. Well, nothing, it wipes off with a piece of paper, and then we will return "ICE KRIM" to ourselves in the near future, to the evil of all the dumbbells
  • Woodman
    Woodman 28 January 2016 10: 58
    +2
    As it was in the USSR when they chose according to their deserts, and not if possible, to pay for the campaign. Then it will be better.


    Was it, like, a sweetener at the end? So that they do not throw an article with minuses? .. Again, Putin is to blame for everything ... But the author did not forget how they lived in the 90s? So would compare, as then and how now ... Or the author compares with zero? So then again Putin was ... Or do we live in a fairy tale that the Akhalai-Mahalai whispered and everything worked out right away? .. It doesn’t happen like that.
    In the 90s, Crimea is not ours, and take whatever freedom you want, and any wish of our Western partners was fulfilled by a run - and what, did you live very well? For example, I do not. And the salary, for example, on time only at zero began to pay ...

    And personally, I don’t know anyone who would be paid for voting, I really don’t know ...
  • Oznob
    Oznob 28 January 2016 10: 58
    +4
    Us sleeves higher
    Yes belts tighter
    We stand with you, bro
    It was worse.
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 28 January 2016 11: 10
      +1
      Of course, we will not get used to it ...
  • V.ic
    V.ic 28 January 2016 10: 58
    +3
    And what is not written correctly in the article? Where does such a VAL of minuses come from? At the moment, only 6 (six comments) and the rating of the article in the "minuses" -17 / 9 +. Did they come running from the "censor"? There is a country in the west of Russia with a "zhovto-blakitny ensign", in which kaklyatskaya truth rules the ball, they say "my house is on the edge", that's where the situation is even worse, with criminals in the "Rada". If the hunchback-marked with Elson the alkanaut have brought our country (again with our connivance) to its current position, then except us it will not direct it on the right path, only we are all together and each in our place. A kind, or rather kind-hearted tsar never existed, and the boyars were not always happy for their pockets ... Remember the Drama of Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin "Boris Godunov" the last words of the text "The people are silent". Then there were False Dmitry, Shuisky, the seven-boyars, the Polish invaders in the Kremlin, in short, SMUTA and GIL. Because the PEOPLE SILENT!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 28 January 2016 11: 10
      +8
      And here I am evaluating an article by ROMAN as a psychologist-psychiatrist who evaluates a patient.
      If on the shelves lay out the outline of the article ..
      introduction
      content,
      focus
      ending
      skillfully docked stimuli,
      skillfully used factual material.

      Superbly ROMAN started the people ... everyone rushed to the embrasures and under the tracks of the tank ....
      in my memory this is the second such article by ROMAN.
      Respect ROMAN ... hi you are capable of many things.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 28 January 2016 11: 21
        +5
        Sleight of hand and not any fraud))) But the facts are such a thing ... You can simply keep silent about some facts, which the author did with brilliance. And the article, as a result, turned out to be resonant. The author is a connoisseur of his craft)
        You, by the way, plus)))
  • boris-1230
    boris-1230 28 January 2016 11: 01
    10
    "What the electorate is, so is the government." Not true. For example, the second time we did not choose Yeltsin, but the results were rigged and it turned out to be Chubais and me and others like that. And Putin is to blame, he is the main manager, he must recruit professionals. And in the current composition of the government, apparently they are either not enough or not. But we have no claim for Syria and Crimea.
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 28 January 2016 11: 20
      +2
      Quote: boris-1230
      And Putin is to blame, he is the chief manager, he must recruit professionals.

      Even Joseph Vissarionovich did not rule without errors. And in order to finally find professionals it took years of trial and error, as well as the hardest war. This is a wildly pressed time. What to say about Putin. He wants something, but he cannot, but he does not know something, because even the president cannot know everything. He is a man, not a god.
      1. zyablik.olga
        zyablik.olga 28 January 2016 13: 09
        +8
        Quote: Alex_59
        Even Joseph Vissarionovich did not rule without errors. And in order to finally find professionals it took years of trial and error, as well as the hardest war. This is a wildly pressed time. What to say about Putin. He wants something, but he cannot, but he does not know something, because even the president cannot know everything. He is a man, not a god.

        I.V. Stalin led the country from 1929 to 1953 year. Those. about the same as Putin. During the years of Stalin's rule, the country turned from an agrarian into an industrial one and won the war. What have we really achieved under the current leadership?
        1. atalef
          atalef 28 January 2016 13: 20
          -3
          Quote: zyablik.olga
          I.V. Stalin led the country from 1929 to 1953 year. Those. about the same as Putin. During the years of Stalin's rule, the country turned from an agrarian into an industrial one and won the war. What have we really achieved under the current leadership?

          Well, do you personally? at least not visited with a tour of Dallag - already good.
      2. boris-1230
        boris-1230 28 January 2016 17: 34
        +5
        Putin has been in power for 15 years and he could figure it out
  • tommy717
    tommy717 28 January 2016 11: 02
    11
    And with what fright did the respected Roman Skomorokhov decide that we are whining here? Both "KRYMNASH" and "VSIRIVSEKHPORVEM" have not gone anywhere. And if you need to tighten the belts, we will. And it is not the fault of the regulars of our site that certain characters sit in the Duma and the Government. We just voted with our heads, but unfortunately not only sober people go to the polls. What idiots do not appear at the polling stations, to whom nothing can be explained simply. DO NOT PERCEPT. A minus to the author.
    1. udincev
      udincev 28 January 2016 12: 23
      0
      I agree with you.
      But, the author is a plus. With brute force, but thoughts in the subject. And if there is a question - do not turn away, as if it weren’t. Turn away - and he stayed ...
  • Vladimir57
    Vladimir57 28 January 2016 11: 03
    +1
    An article about painful, but I do not like the use of the words "zrada", "zradniki", "ganba" ... somehow not in our opinion. No.
  • Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 28 January 2016 11: 03
    +5
    Well, let's see. I personally have already formed an opinion .. that if less than half comes to the polls in the fall .. and they still vote for edrosov .. that there will be no future for the country.
  • PVM
    PVM 28 January 2016 11: 04
    +1
    The question is a little off topic.
    Why the ruble is tied to the price of oil, and not to all natural
    Russian resources. Why the yuan suffered, China does not export oil.
    The answer is the "fun" of the powerful. Russia, like many others, is forced to play these "fun".
  • Gloomy Hedgehog
    Gloomy Hedgehog 28 January 2016 11: 05
    0
    Whatever our ministers do now, they will not succeed in securing the ruble. There are reasons for this, they are called differently, some conspiracy, others conspiracy and so on. For those who have started all this, one task is to make our life unbearable (according to their vision, but we should do our best ...) and blame Putin and his team for everything. They have it like a bone in the throat. Whoever was friends and friends with all these poking around with the Dolar rate is like a boring mosquito, but who at one time decided to be the most cunning and got currency loans now prays that foreign policy will change and we will be forgiven. Even if it changes, they will still finish us off, and they will do a control shot in the head. So that all these whiners are naive and all the opposition there let them pack their bags, the borders are open.
    1. xoma58
      xoma58 28 January 2016 11: 57
      +7
      I think the point is that they ruin people, devalue enterprises. Look, under the pretext of saving the economy, our thieves' government proposed to sell shares of enterprises owned by the state, naturally at minimal prices. Better yet, go bankrupt and then sell, to your loved ones. Considering the positions of the agents of the State Department Nabiulina, Medvedev, etc. all this will pass with a bang. They introduced a tax on all residents of the country in favor of Rotenberg Jr., calling him "Plato"
  • wadulya
    wadulya 28 January 2016 11: 05
    +6
    Putin alone doesn’t decide anything; he is simply not able to do it. And when each bastard strives to steal from the state-va ....
    I dream of surviving to the collapse of the dollar, not because I don’t like Americans, but to look at the faces of the thief of officials who profit from the fall of the ruble and thereby aggravate the situation. It will be fun to look at the owners of millions of green pieces of paper.
    1. Valdis
      Valdis 28 January 2016 12: 14
      -1
      America, love or not love, Great country. Safety margin of 200 years))) they need to learn)))
  • doctor
    doctor 28 January 2016 11: 08
    +5
    I wish Russia rapid economic growth. smile And I wish myself rapid economic growth. That would flood me with a stream of material abundance and excess. smile
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent 28 January 2016 11: 10
    +9
    For an article of good quality such a minus to the author !!!
    There is such a way of communication between bosses and subordinates from an anecdote about the circus. When the cannon fires at the excrement barrel. The barrel scatters and stains everyone. Everything is "good" and then I go out, all in white!
    Here we are all in the shit .., oh in "good" and then he came out, all in white.
    Personally, I've never voted for Edrosov in my life! The same as before for "Our Home Russia". But I go to the polls precisely because my ballot paper is not used against me during the counting of votes, when polling stations are closed and what is happening there, only God knows. Observers from the opposition are not always left there.
    I am sure that most of the participants on this site are the same as me. And the author of all from one barrel!
    Besides, I'm far from happy with what Putin is doing. Everyone understands that Medvedev, as prime minister, is a zero leader. But he keeps it! Stubbornly and persistently! What the "educational" minister is doing is not criticized except perhaps by children who cannot speak. But they keep him too. Apparently they are waiting for education to collapse irreversibly!
    And there are many such incomprehensible actions by the president. This is where perhaps I am to blame! I chose him. But I think that no one is better than him. Not Zyuganov is with Zhirinovsky.
    1. Sober
      Sober 28 January 2016 12: 23
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      Quote: indifferent
      But I think that no one is better than him. Not Zyuganov is with Zhirinovsky.

      Exactly!!! A critical and wise approach.
  • Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 28 January 2016 11: 11
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    And I do not agree with the author, because since 1991 I do not go to the polls and I do not advise others, like Preobrazhensky, "not to read Soviet newspapers before dinner! It's not about the barrels and the ruble-dollar pair, but about the social responsibility of the state to its pensioners - every month to pay pensions and benefits to 40 million (!) War and labor veterans, disabled people and orphans! Such an unreasonably high ruble exchange rate is precisely due to this - monthly payments of 600 - 700 billion rubles of budgetary rubles of pensions. For example, the rate is 25 rubles per dollar, the price of a barrel is 100 dollars or 2500 rubles. means. to get 10 billion rubles to the budget. need to sell 4 million barrels of oil. and for 700-280 million oil. now a barrel costs 30 dollars - we divide 700 by 280 and by 30. we get the current exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar! I hope that this arithmetic lesson was useful to you, dear "experts" - because every gopher is an agronomist, every rabbit (Egg scent) is a commander? But that's why Ukrainians in opium are adjusting their hryvnia for us? Apparently they are afraid that through the low exchange rate of the hryvnia - the ruble, their dollars will flow like a river from Kiev to Moscow, and instead of the market, the laws of the Odessa policeman or Privoz will operate! Oh - la - la? And what does Putin have to do with it?
  • fire44
    fire44 28 January 2016 11: 12
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    not everything, or you can say nothing is determined by elections, so the author is not right here. Yes, and you have to choose the best of the worst, this is not an election, it’s profonation.
  • dtlmvfr11
    dtlmvfr11 28 January 2016 11: 13
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    What a pack is such a leader.
  • Dyagilev
    Dyagilev 28 January 2016 11: 14
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    The author probably scored foreign currency loans, as the article looks like a cry from the heart.
  • Neko75
    Neko75 28 January 2016 11: 14
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    The gentlemen of the extreme have started to look! I think that Putin is in his place. And many factors do not depend on his activity. At least he did not bend under the pressure of the West, and even put many in their place! And the economic situation now in many states is no better. In China, the recession, in Europe, prices rose for many goods, unemployment in the EU reached record levels. It is always easier to blame anyone, including "careless" voters. I voted for Putin not for money or points, and most of my friends, too! And I believe that at the current stage of development there is no other person who would keep the country intact and did not merge it into the West. It is impossible to be good for everyone and will never be in power of a person who absolutely suits everyone!