The dollar, the ruble, the barrel and Putin - not a "good"?

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Well, dear readers, the ruble and the barrel is down, the dollar is up, and the number of shouts of "shit!" also went down dramatically. And if you carefully read your comments on some articles, you get the full impression that many suddenly saw the light.

The dollar, the ruble, the barrel and Putin - not a "good"?


And having come to their sight, they understood that Putin, as they say in common people, is "not a cake."

Well, it will be rewarded to everyone according to his deeds and thoughts, as was said in one clever book. But how about the fact that "do not judge, you will not be judged"?

Ay, patriots ... I can not remember how happy it was "Krymnash" and "VsehporemvSyrii." Reverently joyful and uniform. Sometimes nauseous.

But even now, I confess, sometimes he sweats. What all became smart and understand the essence of things. Every second you can go to the government, he will fix everything there. Why then? Life has become more difficult? And a year and a half ago, when smart people said that the Crimea just would not let us go, did not move anything? And when in Syria began with the Turks? What is so sad now, huh?

I will not quote anyone, unlike my colleagues, there’s no need. Everybody sees everything. But against the fact that Putin has promised something to some and has not fulfilled it, forgive me, I will not pass by. And by saying that Putin was allegedly guilty of success, and Russia's external enemies are in failure.

Excuse me, what do you want to get in return for your whining? What manna from heaven? And the most important question: why, actually, the president? Ah, yes, the guarantor of the Constitution ... Correct, if not right, where in the Constitution the price of a dollar in rubles is spelled out? Or barrels of oil? Searched, not found. Apparently, I was looking bad.

Well, of course, when there is someone to blame for all sins. Especially if the object of the prosecution is not yourself. Sumptuously. You chose, again, you understand, Putin, and again he is not a paradise for everyone and, in particular, for everyone. Totally worthless president. And the government is one of his zradnik. And all against the people of Russia every day work tirelessly.

Clearly need to change something. What, dear patriots, it's time to go to Maidan? Or to the Swamp?

Why? We will gather together with a formidable force, we will go out onto a place and declare a ganny to all Russian citizens. And the people will appoint other good. In accordance with the principles of democracy. Well, as in Ukraine. And we will have everything fine in the future for many years. Want to? Forward!

And if without jerking and malice, then forgive me, but in what is happening today, everyone yesterday put his hand to it. Yesterday is when the elections were. Let's take a little serious look at the situation.

Bad Medvedev and his government? Yes, I agree. Is bad. And Ulyukaev, and Nabiullina, and a bunch of others. Surely there is smarter, and more honest, and more professional. I don’t even try to judge and criticize, because everyone thinks he is a strategist, seeing the fight from the sidelines. But since my personal level of education does not really allow me to assess the professional suitability of the same Nabiullina, and I judge solely on her statements on the TV, I personally have no options for replacing.

But where did it come from, the best director of the Central Bank in the world in the English version?

That's right, Medvedev planted. Who is Medvedev appointed chairman? Right, Putin. That is, Putin is to blame. But there is a small "but." A little bit of excerpts from the text of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. 110-117 articles, if specifically.

"The Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation is appointed by the President of the Russian Federation with the consent of the State Duma.

A proposal on the candidacy of the Prime Minister is made to the State Duma no later than two weeks after taking office of the newly elected President of the Russian Federation or after the resignation of the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, or within a week from the date of rejection of the previous candidacy by the State Duma.

The State Duma considers the candidacy of the chairman of the government submitted by the President of the Russian Federation within a week from the date of the proposal on the candidature.

After a threefold rejection of the nominations of the Prime Minister by the State Duma, the President of the Russian Federation appoints the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, dissolves the State Duma and appoints new elections. "


And now the question is: did our Duma know that Medvedev was nothing? After his tenure as president? Yes, the whole country was in the know. Someone heard that Medvedev's candidacy was rejecting or provoking protests? Personally, I do not remember. Accepted.

By the way, the other day the same Duma rejected the initiative to remove from the post of Minister of the Executioner Education Livanov. Even the agenda did not bring the issue, so rejected. Let, say, a person works.

And behind our Duma many similar feats can be counted.

It turns out that in the State Duma also sit? Which together with Medvedev and Putin. It turns out so.

But sorry, they came to the Duma from Bolotnaya or something, after the popular elections in the square? It seems not. It's like our chosen ones. Elected during a popular election. You, dear readers. And me, yes.

So it turns out that bad man Putin pushed bad people to posts in the government, and our people's elected representatives are violet? No, maybe I am categorically wrong, and every second deputy was bought there, and every first deputy was frightened with a cruel death. Out of savings. It is doubtful. In terms of the second paragraph.

So, our chosen ones from the same berry field with Putin and Medvedev? And what then orem and cry? What are the claims?

Claims only to voters. I can voice, because during my life I skated 12 elections, and I am very aware of everything that is happening in this boiler. Who, how and whom to choose. And for how much.

I apologize in advance that part of the readers who voted with their heads. There are such, I know. Who did not ask the agitators: "How much?" The most common question: how much will the applicant for a vote unfasten. Or what he undertakes to do for a particular house, porch, street. Who did not take absentee ballots, and did not go to Tmutarakan, because they were told to do this at work. And then how, the authorities ordered ... and we need to feed the family, to lose the job in any way. And I watched these caravans more than once.

What is interesting is how such people later condemned the residents of Donbass for inertia. That all as one did not rise and did not go into battle. And yourself? I specifically promoted the turnout for the last elections in my region. From 37 to 43 percent. Every second stayed at home and did not deign to tear off the sofa from the sofa. And what do you want after this? What kind of gingerbread do you need? You yourself create all the conditions for every crook to use it.

And then on the same couch we lie and ache, they say how bad everything is. And we are looking for the guilty. And, which is the coolest, we find. Putin's I applaud.

An oil painting: a part of our absolutely inert and very corrupt electorate whines that the deputies she chose and the ministers appointed by the deputies are swindlers and muddle.

Well, what the electorate is and the government. Sign, as they say, in receipt. Moreover, for all his okolephepatatskaya and just civic activities, he never heard such that the voters would recall their deputy. This nafig nobody needs. They voted, snatched - and burn it all with fire. Until the next election.

Do you know when things will get better? And then, when every citizen (by definition, not by passport) will treat his civic duties as workers. And choose not a wallet, but your head. Then the deputies (who would still cut their somewhat inflated salaries once in 100) would think not about the reimbursement of their election expenses, but about the country. As it was in the USSR, when they chose what they deserved, and not if possible to pay for the campaign. Then it will be better. And even then not immediately. But there will be.

Well, since such a layout, which they themselves drew, so at least do not whine.
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  1. +169
    28 January 2016 10: 32
    Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is, I see them once a year and then on TV. And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.
    1. -65
      28 January 2016 10: 38
      Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad. If it was produced in Russia - then yes, do not care for the dollar.
      1. +93
        28 January 2016 10: 39
        "Almost everything" is a highly controversial statement.
        If you are not talking about iPhones of course.
        1. +14
          28 January 2016 10: 53
          Yes, and those needs in the yuan dominate)
          1. +53
            28 January 2016 11: 11
            Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad.

            You are very mistaken.
            If everything was directly tied to the dollar, then our prices would already have jumped 3 times.
            Even for fully imported goods, prices rose, but not so much.
            And all because importers are forced to dump prices for their goods in order not to lose their market share.
            Those. for buyers, of course, the goods are becoming more expensive - but the producer accounts for the bulk of the costs, because he cuts his own profit (or even works at zero).

            In the modern world, to increase the production of most goods to any volumes is not a problem. The problem is then to sell this product.
            Therefore, large manufacturers will go to any tricks in order to, despite the fall of the ruble, leave the market behind.
            If necessary, they will transfer the plants to us. If it is cheaper, they will hire our workers and buy our own raw materials. If everything is very bad, they will convert their own ruble revenue not into dollars, but into commodity barter.
            1. +8
              28 January 2016 11: 26
              Yes, in about two and a half to two times, and increased by drug products
              and essentials. Well, and how to live a city-old pennsionerka
              for seven thousand pensions (and probably the majority), which you have to pay for the apartment, ride a bus a couple of times a day and eat three times a day, not even talking about any medications, treat your sore sores.
              1. +33
                28 January 2016 11: 45
                Where did you get that sad ???
                What all have become smart and understanding the essence of things ...
                What is it all of a sudden? Is life harder?
                And a year and a half ago, when smart people said that Crimea would not be allowed to come to us for nothing, nothing moved? And when did the Turks begin in Syria?
                What is now so sad, huh?


                Everything is great!
                This is not sarcasm or "urya".
                This is a specific URA !!!
                Or are you counting on several lives?
                So life is one and there is no room for despondency in it.
                And Crimea URA! And Army URA!
                But Erdogan needs to be driven from Russian land.

                and Putin Hurray! for the fact that there is willpower in him, and for the fact that many remembered where they were born.

                There are many good things in life.
                Life is not so long as to spend time on drooling and snot.

                And there have always been a majority of smart people in Russia. And inquisitive God did not offend us. And the inventors of the sea.
                So I'm glad that I live in Russia.
                Everything is great !!!
                1. Boos
                  +4
                  28 January 2016 11: 57
                  Erdogan on Russian soil?) I have not heard any positive about Russian from Putin, in his understanding there are "dear Russians, population and taxpayers." The clumsy attempt to whitewash Putin led to the opposite effect, the article's rating states.
                  1. +3
                    28 January 2016 13: 50
                    This does not state the rating of the article, but simply shows that so far everything is fine - we are patriots, and when it squeezed a little and immediately "everything was gone."
                    1. +8
                      28 January 2016 15: 23
                      Recently I heard that pessimists are learning Chinese and English, and optimists are using a Kalashnikov assault rifle. I will say to myself that I am an optimist.
                      1. +1
                        28 January 2016 16: 17
                        Roma is still a tempter, plus an article, but on the verge ... on the verge .....
                      2. 0
                        30 January 2016 00: 25
                        Quote: severniy
                        Roma is still a tempter, plus an article, but on the verge ... on the verge .....

                        The author smeared it like this. I remembered the good old years, when all the speakers there with "people were not lucky." here and here the same. Putin us both this and that, and we turn up our ungrateful nose. You see, the jump in prices does not suit us and we do not want to tighten our belts for a long time.
                      3. +4
                        28 January 2016 17: 31
                        Quote: Kent0001
                        pessimists learn Chinese and English, and optimists device Kalashnikov

                        An optimist teaches English, a pessimist teaches Chinese, and a realist teaches a Kalashnikov assault rifle.
                    2. +10
                      28 January 2016 16: 15
                      This does not state the rating of the article, but simply shows that so far everything is fine - we are patriots, and when it squeezed a little and immediately "everything was gone."


                      This shows the attitude of people to power in the first place. Who else is power besides Putin? Dear Dmitry Anatolyevich or Aifonovich, beloved by all, Comrade Livanov from the Ministry of Destruction of Education, Comrade Ulyukaev from the Ministry of Economic Destruction, Comrade Golodets with a speaking surname - curator of the healthcare system, of course, the liberals are proud of Nabiullina - the head of the office serving speculators and many others! Let me remind you of Mr. Downshifter-Gref - among other things, he is the head of the main savings bank of Russia - until now!

                      People were fed up with listening to fairy tales from the so-called "statesmen", they got the lies and hypocrisy of politicians, they got traitors in power!

                      This shows that people don’t give a damn about their homeland, that they haven’t been completely brainwashed, and they perfectly see that the gentlemen from the Kremlin have them publicly.
                    3. +8
                      28 January 2016 17: 30
                      Quote: woron333444
                      we are patriots, and when a little pressed and immediately "everything was gone."

                      Do not speak for everyone, speak for yourself!
                      1. +1
                        28 January 2016 21: 55
                        I speak for myself. I did not evaluate the article, although I did not like it. I’m not screaming. I never took money for a voice, but by the way, no one offered. And about Nabiulina, Putin first proposed Glazyev, but the thought rejected.
                      2. +2
                        28 January 2016 23: 28
                        Quote: alecsis69
                        And about Nabiulina, Putin first proposed Glazyev, but the thought rejected.


                        And who represents the Duma? Is it not a party of crooks and thieves, cynically appropriating the name "United Russia"?
                      3. -1
                        30 January 2016 03: 47
                        Well, I'm just a member of the party. About "crooks and thieves" everyone thinks that Bulk has come up with - are you at the same time with him?
                      4. 0
                        1 February 2016 07: 03
                        Quote: alecsis69
                        I speak for myself. I did not evaluate the article, although I did not like it. I’m not screaming. I never took money for a voice, but by the way, no one offered. And about Nabiulina, Putin first proposed Glazyev, but the thought rejected

                        Yes, that's just the point, 99% of the inhabitants of Russia, no one has ever offered money for a vote ... Personally, I always vote for the Liberal Democratic Party and I have no idea how to manage the state, so I’m not getting into experts. The price of the dollar is not very worrying the last time I saw it during the default ... hi
                  2. 0
                    28 January 2016 14: 51
                    Erdogan in Russian Earth
                    1. 0
                      28 January 2016 23: 35
                      Quote: KaPToC
                      Erdogan on Russian Earth

                      Ha minus put, who is there with an atrophied sense of humor?
                      1. 0
                        30 January 2016 03: 47
                        a large percentage.
                2. +23
                  28 January 2016 12: 21
                  Quote: Temples
                  And there have always been a majority of smart people in Russia. And inquisitive God did not offend us. And the inventors of the sea.
                  So I'm glad that I live in Russia.

                  ... absolutely right .. hi .. what with regards to drugs .. I don’t remember who I pulled it off, but it was definitely in the VC .. imported drugs and our analogs with prices:
                  Nurofen (120rub) and Ibuprofen (10rub)
                  Mezim (300rub) and Pancreatin (30rub)
                  But-spa (150rub) and Drotaverina hydrochloride (30rub)
                  Panadol (50rub) and Paracetamol (5rub)
                  Belosalik (380rub) and Acriderm SK (40rub)
                  Bepanthen (250rub) and Dexpanthenol (100rub)
                  Betaserk (600rub) and Betagistin (250rub)
                  Bystrumgel (180rub) and Ketoprofen (60rub)
                  Voltaren (300rub) and Diclofenac (40rub)
                  Gastrozole (120rub) and Omeprazole (50rub)
                  Detraleks (580rub) and Venarus (300rub)
                  Diflucan (400rub) and Fluconazole (30rub)
                  Fornos (100) and Rhinostop (30)
                  Zantak (280rub) and Ranitidine (30rub)
                  Zirtek (220rub) and Cetirinax (80rub)
                  Zovirax (240rub) and Acyclovir (40rub)
                  Immunal (200rub) and Echinacea extract (50rub)
                  Imodium (300) and Loperamide (20 rub)
                  Yodomarin (220rub) and Potassium iodide (100rub)
                  Cavinton (580rub) and Vinpocetine (200rub)
                  Klaritin (180rub) and Loragexal (60rub)
                  Clathid (600rub) and Clarithromycin (180rub)
                  Lazolvan (320rub) and Ambroxol (20rub)
                  Lamisil (400rub) and Terbinafine (100rub)
                  Lyoton — 1000 (350 rubles) and Heparin — acrigel 1000 (120 rubles)
                  Lomilan (150rub) and Loragexal (50rub)
                  Maxidex (120rub) and Dexamethasone (40rub)
                  Midratsil (360rub) and Tropicamide (120rub)
                  Miramistin (200rub) and Chlorhexidine (10rub)
                  Movalis (410rub) and Meloksikam (80rub)
                  Neuromultivitis (250rub) and Pentovit (50rub)
                  Normodipine (620rub) and Amlodipine (40rub)
                  Omez (180) and Omeprazole (50)
                  Panangin (140rub) and Asparks (10rub)
                  Pantogam (350rub) and Pantokaltsin (230rub)
                  Rinonorm (50rub) and Rhinostop (20rub)
                  Sumamed (450rub) and Azithromycin (90rub)
                  Trental (200rub) and Pentoxifylline (50rub)
                  Trichopol (90rub) and Metronidazole (10rub)
                  Troxevasin (220rub) and Troxerutin (110rub)
                  Ultop (270rub) and Omeprazole (50rub)
                  Fastum — gel (250 rubles) and Ketoprofen (70 rubles)
                  Finlepsin (280rub) and Carbamazepine (50rub)
                  Fluxostat (200rub) and Fluconazole (20rub)
                  Furamag (380rub) and Furagin (40rub)
                  Hemomycin (300rub) and Azithromycin (100rub)
                  Enap (150) and Enalapril (70rub)
                  Ersefuril (400rub) and Furazolidone (40rub)
                  .. clearly ?! .. hi
                  1. +8
                    28 January 2016 12: 34
                    There is ...
                    But there are also "nuances" (if the prices do not "catch" me yet, thank God, I earn normally)
                    After he was ill with hepatitis during military service in the Soviet Army, he earned cholecystitis.

                    The best medicine, alas, is Geptral (France, it seems), but since the "effective managers" bought a non-working water purification unit for our field, healthy people suffer from the liver.
                    So you have to "throw away" a certain amount.

                    After a microstroke, which I suffered 14 years ago, my blood pressure started to jump, I had to sit on the "wheels".
                    I drink every day, otherwise- kirdyk (if you're lucky) in the worst case ..... (I even want to think e)

                    The tablets are imported, 635 rubles a month (garbage, in general), but they say that imported ones are "softer".

                    Of course, maybe the doctors will "nightmare" me (although there is a familiar doctor, my Kent, who pulled me out of the other world once on a watch, saying - don't you dare to switch to a domestic analogue!), But I am a little bit off to switch to a domestic one .. ...
                    - I repeat - death is not the worst.

                    Well, the wife earned asthma at the Chemical Plant (occupational disease), and there is liver damage.
                    And also uses "import"
                    So it's not so simple ...
                    1. +3
                      28 January 2016 13: 14
                      Quote: sherp2015
                      Quote: СРЦ П-15
                      No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence! I retired this year, I get 14 thousand

                      200 bucks /
                      Impressive. more precisely, this is not impressive, but the fact that the bulk of people ask - why is it so big?
                      1. +3
                        28 January 2016 13: 52
                        I have the same and do not whine that everything was gone.
                      2. +1
                        28 January 2016 13: 59
                        Quote: woron333444
                        I have the same and do not whine that everything was gone.

                        well, not all, just a year ago it was 500 bucks.
                        300 flew away, 200 left .... bye
                      3. +12
                        28 January 2016 14: 33
                        Quote: atalef
                        a year ago it was 500 bucks.
                        300 flew away, 200 left .... bye

                        And why again translate into bucks? Pensioners that greens are calculated in stores? Something I did not notice such. You need to look at the purchasing power of the ruble, and it fell by 30 percent, and according to your panic arithmetic, it turns out that the pension was reduced by more than half.
                        The dollar exchange rate has overcome an important psychological mark - "EVERYONE CARE HOW MUCH IT COST"
                      4. +3
                        28 January 2016 16: 34
                        Quote: Koshak
                        The dollar exchange rate has overcome an important psychological mark - "EVERYONE CARE HOW MUCH IT COST"


                        There is some truth in this, I agree. But you do not take into account how important the dollar exchange rate is for enterprises - you do not understand this! And it is important for several reasons.

                        First: machine tools! Most of the fleet of modern machine tools is of foreign manufacture. They need to be serviced, you need to buy new ones - for bucks! Tell me the way out for enterprises in the real sector, what should they do? Just do not need songs about import substitution - it is really only in the minds of Medvedev and Putin, in fact, with such a loan rate, import substitution is NOT POSSIBLE! Therefore, we move on to the second point.
                        Secondly, a large number of enterprises in the real sector have foreign currency loans in foreign banks. They were forced to take a loan there, because The BET IS BELOW, and many Russian state-owned banks refuse credit to small and medium enterprises. How to be? After devaluation, how to pay for foreign currency loans?

                        Are they to blame for the fact that during the 15 years of high oil prices, the authorities did not exert the slightest effort to create a competitive economy? They are not to blame, but pay them.

                        Russia got off the oil needle and sat on the oil stake! This is what the financial and economic authorities of Russia have done for 15 years. And who leads and covers them? That's right - the popularly elected.

                        I do not call for a revolution. Just turn on the brain, finally!
                      5. +6
                        28 January 2016 17: 56
                        I work with some enterprises, and you won’t believe, in 2015 who changed many of these enterprises, old machines to new ones, who installed automatic machines to replace working hands. Moreover, 90% of these machines Western bought for dollars. That is, enterprises were not scared by the price of these machines.
                        Moreover, in such an economic situation, it is not at all advisable to install machine tools that replace people. Machine tools are becoming more expensive, salaries, and, accordingly, staff costs are not increasing.
                        Many enterprises carried out modernization of production in 2015, of those with whom I work almost all. And yes, import substitution had a direct impact on this, normal enterprises go to increase costs, in order to justify these costs later by their readiness to receive orders. As an example: Novomoskovsky Aerosol increased its production in 2015 by 87%, and plans to open new production lines and increase production by another 60% in 2016. And this is only one of the enterprises I work with, while others have about the same indicators, as they say, plus or minus. A competent manager of the enterprise sees the picture as a whole and in the long term. But all sorts of managers live only momentary profit.
                      6. -1
                        28 January 2016 18: 03
                        znorick




                        Most of the fleet of modern machine tools is of foreign manufacture. They need to be serviced, you need to buy new ones - for bucks! Tell me the way out for enterprises in the real sector, what should they do?


                        To think how to make machines with these machines that you don’t have to buy abroad. but no one knows how to think. What is a modern engineer? This is a person who is designed to find the necessary equipment or unit and adjust. Imported preferably. About the fact that in Russia, with a good search, you can find something that will help to create something that is so lacking in production. There is no way to buy a Russian machine? There are only imported analogues, but expensive? And sit and think about how you can make of what is what you need.
                        Not always possible, but in some cases completely.

                        a large number of enterprises in the real sector have foreign currency loans in foreign banks. They were forced to take a loan there, because RATE BELOW


                        No need to take! what's the question? You understand that enterprises that take loans work only for loans. they do not have funds for development. Constantly have to lend and refinance.

                        Are they to blame for the fact that during the 15 years of high oil prices, the authorities did not exert the slightest effort to create a competitive economy? They are not to blame, but pay them.


                        What does power have to do with it? Why, with all their imported miracle machines, ultra-cheap Western loans, which they are now unable to repay, why couldn’t they launch competitive products on the market?

                        With all the delights of technological advances in certain areas of science and technology, Russia has enormous costs. At high costs, no competitive environment can help.
                      7. +3
                        28 January 2016 23: 25
                        Quote: mark2
                        With all the delights of technological advances in certain areas of science and technology, Russia has enormous costs. At high costs, no competitive environment can help.


                        The most powerful cost-creating factor in Russia is the overly corrupt bureaucracy. It’s worth cutting it for the most ya..tsa. In second place is the arbitrariness of monopolies. They constantly pick up tariffs, and no one punishes them for this - i.e. it turns out the norm for the Russian Federation. Another factor is the worn-out infrastructure; liberals have raped it for 25 years. And the development of infrastructure (not counting the connection and the Internet) is the competence of the state, and not business in the first place. Another significant factor is the liberal ideology in the minds of the Kremlin authorities.

                        Quote: mark2
                        What does power have to do with it? Why, with all their imported miracle machines, ultra-cheap Western loans, which they are now unable to repay, why couldn’t they launch competitive products on the market?

                        Well, the authorities, as always, have nothing to do with it - is it true, Dmitry Ayfonovich?
                      8. -1
                        30 January 2016 03: 56
                        Change Russia in your story to any other country - even the United States - and you will be right again.
                      9. +2
                        28 January 2016 21: 30
                        Quote: Koshak
                        that the pension was reduced more than twice.

                        The pension remained, but you can buy half as much.
                      10. -1
                        28 January 2016 21: 29
                        An interesting pension, I have 8500 - it's 100 bucks
                      11. -1
                        30 January 2016 03: 57
                        Already 110%)
                        I wonder why no one yells that they say "the ruble won 10 rubles per dollar in a week" - is it not interesting to yell?
                      12. +2
                        30 January 2016 05: 05
                        Quote: ferdiperdozzz
                        Already 110%)
                        I wonder why no one yells that they say "the ruble won 10 rubles per dollar in a week" - is it not interesting to yell?

                        Because it’s not won the ruble, it’s won the oil
                      13. +10
                        28 January 2016 14: 27
                        Dear, do not confuse sour with a long one ... If pensioners received their pension here and spent it there, such a "fall" would have sad consequences. But ... When the dollar was 30 each, my rent was 2100 rubles, i.e. 70 tanks, now the dollar is 70, and the rent is 2200 rubles, i.e. slightly more than 30 tanks. Thus, prices in Russia DECLINE TWICE (if you use your dollar calculator), and this is good news. It all depends not only on the point of view of the subject, but also on the chosen method of analysis and the scale of measurement ("And in parrots, I am much longer!" (C) Boa constrictor)
                      14. 0
                        28 January 2016 14: 36
                        Do not argue with him - the colonel general knows best))))
                      15. +2
                        28 January 2016 18: 24
                        Quote: weis223
                        Do not argue with him - the colonel general knows best))))

                        And you want to say that you won with the fall of the ruble in half?
                        Those. your income has quadrupled, right?
                      16. +1
                        28 January 2016 21: 35
                        When the dollar was 30 - my rent was 3200, now it is 5500, my pension remained the same - 8500 (I’m lying, I’ve got 700 more rubles), my salary fell by half - because my work was halved ...
                    2. +2
                      28 January 2016 18: 26
                      If in the countries of the Middle East you can get a bullet in the forehead for a fake or low-quality drug, or at least lose a license, then this is not punished in our country! So we are treated with all sorts of shit!
                  2. mihasik
                    +5
                    28 January 2016 12: 41
                    Quote: Inok10
                    .. clearly ?! ..

                    Not really!
                    Some fellow citizens (for example, several tens of millions) are not suitable or do not act positively, the cheap components of the women who are delivered to our country from Asia.
                    Sorry, accustomed to the components of the originals. So to say, the dose is no longer valid). And the originals prices are sky-high! How did you confirm this.
                    1. +3
                      28 January 2016 12: 54
                      Quote: mihasik
                      So to say, the dose is no longer valid). And the originals prices are sky-high! How did you confirm this.

                      .. with regard to the dose .. this is addiction to the drug .. and most of the drugs listed are not copies of, the originalsdeveloped even in the USSR .. the same pancreatin .. the boy was ill with pancreatitis so in the year 1978 .. they were treated with it .. hi
                      1. mihasik
                        +2
                        28 January 2016 13: 52
                        Quote: Inok10
                        . with regards to the dose .. this is addiction to the drug .. and most of the drugs listed are not copies, but the originals developed back in the USSR .. the same pancreatin

                        I would argue about the "majority"!
                        Yes, not all women, but indiscriminately 95 percent! And they "transplanted the people into addiction", not without the help of our doctors (nobody canceled kickbacks from pharmacists), and our pharmaceutical industry after the "revolutionary transformations of the 90s" is "lying." The situation with 1978 is not correct. The food was natural, the rivers and the air were clean, i.e. the ecological situation is not equal to the current one! Naturally, the human immune system was "slightly" different from the current one! For the current situation, the drugs should be different, but they are imported. Something like this.
                        Remember how it happened with domestic tobacco factories. Remained domestic?) The Americans bought everything except one: "Rostov-Tabak" Mr. Savidi, and that is because there was a very strong "support" from Greece. So it is with pharmaceutical companies.
                      2. +2
                        28 January 2016 13: 57
                        Quote: mihasik
                        The situation since 1978 is not correct. The food was natural, the rivers and air were clean, i.e. ecological situation is not equal to the present!

                        and life expectancy is lower, how do you explain?
                        Most of all I like these stories, in Africa everything is natural, but they live up to 35-40 years.
                      3. mihasik
                        0
                        28 January 2016 15: 15
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: mihasik
                        The situation since 1978 is not correct. The food was natural, the rivers and air were clean, i.e. ecological situation is not equal to the present!

                        and life expectancy is lower, how do you explain?
                        Most of all I like these stories, in Africa everything is natural, but they live up to 35-40 years.

                        My grandfather got married for the last 3rd time in 91 years! He lived in a farm, Krasnodar Territory. His name was Illarion Ivanovich Well, a participant in the Second World War. Do you call this "lower life expectancy"? laughing laughing laughing
                        True, he did not survive the "Changes of the 90s" ((Maybe because we took him to "civilization" (to the city)?
                      4. +2
                        28 January 2016 17: 36
                        Quote: atalef
                        everything is natural in Africa, but they live up to 35-40 years.

                        Still, this "natural" was in abundance!
                      5. -1
                        28 January 2016 18: 11
                        They will not have anything in abundance in Africa - because lazy people actually live in a garbage dump.
                      6. +2
                        28 January 2016 14: 04
                        Quote: mihasik
                        The food was natural, the rivers and the air were clean, i.e. the ecological situation is not equal to the current one! Naturally, the human immune system was "slightly" different from the current one! For the current situation, the drugs should be different, but they are imported. Something like this.
                        Remember how it happened with domestic tobacco factories. Remained domestic?) The Americans bought everything except one: "Rostov-Tabak" Mr. Savidi, and that is because there was a very strong "support" from Greece. So it is with pharmaceutical companies.

                        .. well, so everyone wanted a restructuring .. chewing gum and jeans .. the result is on the face .. why are we moaning now ?! .. laughing
                      7. +4
                        28 January 2016 14: 09
                        Quote: Inok10
                        .. result on the face ..

                        ... hi ...
                      8. mihasik
                        +2
                        28 January 2016 14: 44
                        Quote: Inok10
                        well, so everyone wanted a restructuring .. chewing gum and jeans .. the result is on the face .. why are we moaning now ?! ..

                        And who is aching?
                        I ate gum and jeans back in Soviet times fellow
                        And "Russian Maidan of the 90s" categorically did not support it. Yes, changes were needed, but now I would call them the Chinese version. But whoever tried to convince the angry crowd with stunned eyes?
                        So it turned out like Chernomyrdin: "We wanted the best, but it turned out ..."
                      9. +4
                        28 January 2016 15: 02
                        Quote: mihasik
                        And "Russian Maidan of the 90s" categorically did not support it. Yes, changes were needed, but now I would call them the Chinese version. But whoever tried to convince the angry crowd with stunned eyes?

                        .. similarly looked like idiots even though he was still green .. well, here I had a chance to talk to the crowd in Riga at 91m when the rich Latvians were disconnected .. and drive them from parts and warehouses .. an effective thing is removing the AK fuse .. instantly agility passes .. laughing
                        Quote: weis223
                        The point here is not addiction and doses. In the above list (it is far from complete), the active substance is exactly the same (the difference can only be in the fillers and packaging). They hung noodles on our ears with aggressive advertising that behind the hill it’s getting better and more effective (although we don’t really have many drugs), we smear it with zovirax, not knowing about acyclavir

                        ... absolutely true .. German clotrimazole 200 rub., ours and Indian 60 rub. .. same .. hi
                      10. +2
                        28 January 2016 14: 46
                        The point here is not addiction and doses. In the above list (it is far from complete), the active substance is exactly the same (the difference can only be in the fillers and packaging). They hung noodles on our ears with aggressive advertising that behind the hill it’s getting better and more effective (although we don’t really have many drugs), we smear it with zovirax, not knowing about acyclavir
                      11. bif
                        +1
                        28 January 2016 16: 42
                        Quote: weis223
                        The point here is not addiction and doses. In the above list (it is far from complete), the active substance is exactly the same (the difference can only be in the fillers and packaging). They hung noodles on our ears with aggressive advertising that behind the hill it’s getting better and more effective (although we don’t really have many drugs), we smear it with zovirax, not knowing about acyclavir

                        You cannot row all the preparations under one comb. Let's just say that drugs are prophylactic and supportive in nature (these most often require a long and constant intake), it is allowed to replace them with a domestic or cheaper generic ... But drugs for the treatment of life-threatening and acute conditions RECOMMENDED to use the original drug or European generic ...
                        Differences of generics from the original drug formally in fillers, their qualitative and quantitative composition determines the frequency and severity of ADVERSE EFFECTS. If we talk about domestic preparations, then after 90's in factories the situation is the same as in the army - NO RECEPTION .... Therefore, there can be no ACTIVE SUBSTANCE in a preparation for 50 rub of domestic production, only filler in the form of ordinary chalk, I myself know such cases.
                      12. 0
                        28 January 2016 17: 43
                        Quote: bif
                        But drugs for the treatment of life-threatening and acute conditions, it is RECOMMENDED to use the original drug or the European generic ...

                        Do you want to announce the statistics of the connection of doctors (prescribers) with pharmacies? She will not be in your crawl! An example from personal experience - the doctor prescribed Buscopan (250 rubles) not No-Shpa (150 rubles) and even more so not Drotaverin (15 rubles). Why???
                      13. +1
                        28 January 2016 19: 09
                        Inok10]. The situation with 1978 is not correct. The food was natural, the rivers and the air were clean, i.e. the ecological situation is not equal to the current one! Naturally, the human immune system was "slightly" different from the current one! For the current situation, the drugs should be different, but they are imported.
                        Yes, yes, yes, and the grass was greener, and the sky bluer, and the girls more beautiful, and we ourselves were completely different.
                        And the fact that I have one of the largest chemical associations in my country, the Chemical Plant is certainly one of the largest, and it is only half of all the city’s enterprises, and then the ecology was certainly better, pure ammonia, periods of colorfully colored nitrogen oxides, completely rarely chlorine spreads on the ground with the same green grass and the other delights of that ecology. You approach the city from the north-east, from a hill, and over the city there is such a black ecology, lightning is not enough. It was really possible to show photographs in the river, all in one bottle and the developer and fixer. And that’s the matter now, not of any ecology, no ammonia for you, no all kinds of oxides, chlorine is only in bleach, it’s completely trouble, life is simply not possible.
                        And children are all born sick now. Previously, how was it? Leg tone? Yes, no big deal, do a massage at home, and don’t bother with stupid things. And now? Legs in good shape? OH this is a pathology. Not standing on legs? Yes this is pathology, muscles are not well developed. What did he just open his eyes? Yes, it can’t be like that, it's all a pathology.
                      14. bif
                        0
                        28 January 2016 16: 18
                        Quote: Inok10
                        with regards to the dose .. this is addiction to the drug .. and most of the medicines listed are not copies, but the originals developed back in the USSR .. the same pancreatin .. he had pancreatitis as a kid, so in the year 1978 .. he was treated with it ..

                        1. There were no licensing and patents in the USSR ... so it's useless to speak and compare with modern Western drugs.
                        2. Comparing 1978 and 2016 is also not correct. Example, in the 40-50's, with severe forms of pneumonia or sepsis, ADULT was introduced 10.ED penicillin 2-4 once a day (40.t IU per day), and now CHILDREN are administered 6 million units 4 once a day (24 000t.U per day) to help with meningococcal infection.
                  3. +3
                    28 January 2016 15: 38
                    Quote: Inok10
                    clearly ?! .

                    Unfortunately, the indicated figures for a number of domestic medicines doubled at least. But still cheaper.
                  4. +2
                    28 January 2016 16: 20
                    . clearly

                    and then go through the pharmacies and ask the second column from the list ...
                    production is dead, and there’s no reason for pharmacies to sell cheap, so here’s a list of this-filkin letter.
                    with u ...
                    1. +2
                      28 January 2016 16: 37
                      Quote: severniy
                      and then go through the pharmacies and ask the second column from the list ...

                      .. and, mom didn’t teach that lying is not good? .. pancreatin in any Kaliningrad pharmacy .. just called a pharmacist friend ..
                      Latin name: Pancreatin
                      ATX Code: A09AA02
                      Active ingredient: Pancreatinum (Pancreatinum)
                      Producer: STI-MED-SORB, Valenta Pharmaceutics, AVVA-RUS, Irbitsky Chemical Farm, Biosynthesis OJSC, Aveksima OJSC, Pharmproekt, Russia; PJSC “Lekhim”, PJSC “Vitamins”, Ukraine
                      and the screen just typed in the search .. laughing
                  5. 0
                    28 January 2016 21: 25
                    Thank you very much for the list.
                  6. 0
                    30 January 2016 03: 50
                    Idiocy. Compare also Valtrex and Acyclovir, it is better on yourself - be surprised how the same thing works differently.
              2. +4
                28 January 2016 12: 10
                Quote: Blondy
                for seven thousand pensions (and probably the majority), which you have to pay for the apartment, ride a bus a couple of times a day and eat three times a day, not even talking about any medications, treat your sore sores.

                No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence! This year I retired, I get 14 thousand. Most of the grandmothers I know have more pension than mine, and even more so for 70-year-olds. Transport is free of charge. If the pension is small, then the pensioner is entitled to a subsidy to pay housing and communal services. Of course, it turns out a completely different calico, if the grandmother in the apartment still has someone registered, then she loses privileges.
                1. +6
                  28 January 2016 12: 26
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence!

                  ... the calculations about the jumped prices for basic products are especially striking, for some they have risen in price by 2-3 times .. well, if in "Victoria" pork shoulder - 380 rubles. .. it’s probably easier to go to the market and buy for 270 rubles. .. prices of Kaliningrad .. hi
                2. +2
                  28 January 2016 12: 42
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence! This year I retired, I get 14 thousand. Most of the grandmothers I know have more pension than mine, and even more so for 70-year-olds. Transport is free of charge. If the pension is small, then the pensioner is entitled to a subsidy to pay housing and communal services. Of course, it turns out a completely different calico, if the grandmother in the apartment still has someone registered, then she loses privileges.


                  Probably not everywhere the same.
                  Over 30 years of experience and a pension of 6500. with a coefficient of 1,6
                  1. +1
                    28 January 2016 13: 55
                    A terrible lie. I have a coefficient of 1,2 and a pension of 14150
                    1. 0
                      28 January 2016 14: 01
                      And here it seems you are lying.
                      Why, I do not expect.
                      Once again WHERE, IN WHICH REGIONS at retirement, such accruals?
                    2. 0
                      28 January 2016 18: 51
                      Quote: woron333444
                      woron333444 Today, 13:55 ↑
                      A terrible lie. I have a coefficient of 1,2 and a pension of 14150


                      Hear the "crow" watch the broom. If I tell you that the pension was assigned 6500 with a coefficient of 1,6, then I am responsible for my words.
                      I had to fight and correspond with the PF for over a year, they said that in our republic, more than 1.2 were not allowed. Well, and I yes, not Chernobyl. Those receive 40-60 thousand.
                      1. +1
                        28 January 2016 23: 47
                        My salary was large, but they said that they would not give more than the average for Russia with a coefficient of 1,2.
                  2. +1
                    28 January 2016 14: 07
                    Quote: sherp2015
                    Over 30 years of experience and a pension of 6500. with a coefficient of 1,6

                    What the hell? The minimum pension is 8100 - 8700. Or do you live in some other Russia?
                    1. +1
                      28 January 2016 18: 54
                      Quote: Ami du peuple
                      What the hell? The minimum pension is 8100 - 8700. Or do you live in some other Russia?


                      Are you a businessman
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Lies!!!


                      Romanov, but I did not expect rudeness from you. I thought you were better.
                      Once again I say 6500. I am from one republic of the North Caucasus Federal District. But not Chechnya, everything is covered in chocolate.
                    2. Hon
                      +1
                      28 January 2016 19: 01
                      5965 minimal
                  3. -2
                    28 January 2016 14: 39
                    Quote: sherp2015
                    Over 30 years of experience and a pension of 6500. with a coefficient of 1,6

                    Lies!!!
                3. +4
                  28 January 2016 12: 53
                  SRC P15:
                  ENLIGHTEN PLEASE WHERE DOES SUCH A RETIREMENT ARE GIVEN WHEN EXITING A RETIREMENT?
                  I only crawled up to 14 thousand after 12 years.
                  In what areas is such a pension accrued?
                  1. +1
                    28 January 2016 13: 57
                    Probably it was necessary to work, and the pension is calculated from income for 2000-2001
                    1. 0
                      28 January 2016 18: 58
                      Quote: woron333444
                      Probably it was necessary to work, and the pension is calculated from income for 2000-2001


                      I think he worked no less than yours. But just from 2000 to 2005, during my work in one organization, the experience was, as it were, to put it mildly, "blurred" by my immediate supervisor.
                  2. +1
                    28 January 2016 14: 00
                    Quote: Kuzyakin15
                    In what areas is such a pension accrued?

                    I live on the edge of the Moscow region. 40 years of experience, I continue to work, and not whine, that the pension is small. By the way, since 2000 on the 3rd group of disability. With retirement, I was transferred to a retirement pension, benefits remained. Moreover: I received about 12 thousand for a pension (at the very end).
                    1. +6
                      28 January 2016 14: 21
                      SRC P-15:
                      I also work. And as I wrote, he is 12 years old. And 34 years of special harm (asbestos production, if anyone knows what it is). And I worked and do not work as an OTC controller, this is according to the average salary. But something up to 14t. got in 12 years.
                      Last year, a retired work colleague left — 10 were not counted. More than 18 years of pure harmfulness.
                      Even if they leave on a common basis at 60, I don’t know anyone who accrued more than 11 thousand. With experience more than 40 years.
                      So there is no need to go out about average pensions for more than 13 thousand, especially postmen.
                      1. -1
                        28 January 2016 14: 40
                        Quote: Kuzyakin15
                        So there is no need to go out about average pensions for more than 13 thousand, especially postmen.

                        My wife works at the post office - a pension of 11 thousand with "kopecks".
                      2. 0
                        28 January 2016 19: 01
                        Quote: СРЦ П-15
                        My wife works at the post office - a pension of 11 thousand with "kopecks".


                        Who do you work as a "hard worker", didn't you say?
                      3. +1
                        28 January 2016 15: 01
                        But I don’t at all hope for retirement, I try, to the best of my ability and ability, to make a start for a calm old age, if it comes, if there is nobody to blame and whine and blame, I haven’t been paying the PFR and medical staff for several years now, that's all equal to zero sense.
                    2. 0
                      28 January 2016 19: 00
                      Quote: СРЦ П-15
                      I live on the edge of the Moscow region. 40 years of experience, I continue to work, and not whine, that the pension is small. By the way, since 2000 on the 3rd group of disability.


                      I would like to hear who you work with with such an experience "hardworking" you are OUR.
                      I am sure that a businessman or some engineering
                  3. 0
                    29 January 2016 07: 15
                    Quote: Kuzyakin15
                    ENLIGHTEN PLEASE WHERE DOES SUCH A RETIREMENT ARE GIVEN WHEN EXITING A RETIREMENT?

                    On the Far East pension and more. Still questions will be?
                4. +1
                  28 January 2016 13: 54
                  I have some subsidies 830r
              3. +3
                28 January 2016 12: 41
                What kind of Russia do you live in? I am sitting on a fully imported medicine - called Lodoz. Rose. At 1,5 compared to 2013. So do not lie.
              4. +1
                28 January 2016 12: 50
                Quote: Blondy
                Well, and how to live a city-old pennsionerka
                on seven thousand pensions (and such, probably, most)

                What? The average pension in Russia is 13700 rubles. My sister works as a postman, and, of course, carries out the pension too. I ask: "How much is the average pension at your site" - "Somewhere 15000". At the same time, her salary is 11000. So it is not known who lives well in Russia.
                1. -1
                  28 January 2016 18: 17
                  In Russia, it is good to live well for those who are engaged in their own business and do not expect "handouts" from the state.
                  1. Hon
                    +2
                    28 January 2016 19: 17
                    It is advisable not to pay taxes to the state either. So in fairness
              5. -2
                28 January 2016 14: 49
                Why has the "old pensioner" not acquired her own home in her entire life? Then there would be no need to pay for the apartment. I have never met a pensioner living in a rented apartment in my life.
                1. +2
                  28 January 2016 18: 38
                  And housing and communal services do not count, or pensioners do not need to pay?
                  1. 0
                    28 January 2016 23: 34
                    Quote: Koshak
                    And housing and communal services do not count, or pensioners do not need to pay?

                    I have a big family and ALL utility bills WINTER 3000 rubles. And what are the utility costs of a pensioner? Five refrigerators light guzzle? Heats an apartment of five hundred squares? Maybe watering a garden of five hectares?
                    The only overwhelming expense for senior citizens is medicines - but this is inevitable because old age has not yet been won.
                    1. Hon
                      0
                      29 January 2016 13: 48
                      Quote: KaPToC
                      I have a big family and ALL utility bills WINTER 3000 rubles. And what are the utility costs of a pensioner? Five refrigerators light guzzle? Heats an apartment of five hundred squares? Maybe watering a garden of five hectares?
                      The only overwhelming expense for senior citizens is medicines - but this is inevitable because old age has not yet been won.

                      Rates for a communal apartment depend on the region, somewhere in Moscow there is money for subsidies, and somewhere residents have to save
              6. +1
                28 January 2016 17: 29
                Quote: Blondy
                Well, and how to live a city-old pennsionerka
                for seven thousand pensions (and probably the majority), which you have to pay for the apartment, ride a bus a couple of times a day and eat three times a day, not even talking about any medications, treat your sore sores.

                You have not entirely correct information about "old women pensioners", about their lives, expenses, needs!
              7. KVS
                0
                28 January 2016 23: 58
                and about high prices for products - these are questions for retailers !!!
                after checking the prosecutor’s office, as they say in some media, it was found that these bad traders make a wrap on some goods from 100 to 700% !!!!!!!
                when the state establishes the maximum ceiling for the wrapping of goods, then the price tags for many goods will be adequate !!!!!!
            2. +7
              28 January 2016 11: 47
              Quote: Darkmor
              You are very mistaken.
              If everything was directly tied to the dollar, then our prices would already have jumped 3 times.
              Even for fully imported goods, prices rose, but not so much.
              And all because importers are forced to dump prices for their goods in order not to lose their market share.
              Those. for buyers, of course, the goods are becoming more expensive - but the producer accounts for the bulk of the costs, because he cuts his own profit (or even works at zero).
              - Prices have already jumped almost three times. There is only some delay - let's wait a bit.
              I bought CDs for my wife for tax reports - it costs 75 rubles, a year ago (one disk was left with a glued price tag on the box) - 29 rubles. But! A year ago they already managed to rise in price.

              Regarding "holding" the market - rest assured. They will compensate for this. With a profit, then.

              Quote: ferdiperdozzz
              "Almost everything" is a highly controversial statement.
              If you are not talking about iPhones of course.
              - Well enough already this rotten stamp "about iPhones".
              And that Alcatel did not rise in price? Or Samsung? Or call a domestic manufacturer? The only (and even that screwdriver) Explay flippers have already wrapped.
              Communication will rise in price - reptile providers do not want to buy domestic GSM equipment (for those who do not understand, it simply does not exist). We will refuse from cellular?

              All household appliances - stoves, washers, irons (b ... t!) All from behind the hill!

              Quote: Wedmak
              Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is ...
              - And my neighbor doesn’t care. The salary of about 12 thousand. The loafer kicked out. Two on hand.

              Now, clever Witcher, tell me why "domestic" products (meat, bread, cereals, milk, vegetables, sugar) have risen in price by 20-50%?
              I'm not even talking about "delicacies" such as bell peppers.

              And why should this people not care? Maybe because there is a small category of people who are well settled with salaries of 100+ thousand rubles?

              Please give me an economic scenario for my question. I think the rest will be interesting.
              1. +1
                28 January 2016 11: 52
                so the bulk of the products went up by 20-50 percent or 2-3 times?
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              2. +3
                28 January 2016 12: 28
                Quote: iConst
                I bought CDs for my wife for tax reports - it costs 75 rubles,

                Honestly, where is it on CD? we don’t sell them at all ... they just don’t exist! All with flash drives.
                Quote: iConst
                All household appliances - stoves, washers, irons (b ... t!) All from behind the hill!

                Data on the localization of production from 2010 on washing machines (similar for refrigerators and stoves)
                The top three also included LG Electronics Rus (LG) and Beko. [4]
                [edit] Indesit
                Brand washing machines Indesit and Hotpoint-Ariston are manufactured in Lipetsk. [5]
                Indesit has created an industrial cluster for the production of components for refrigerators and washing machines, these are 12 satellite enterprises with 6,5 thousand employees. [6]
                [edit] LG
                Plant LG is located in Ruza (Moscow region). [7]
                [edit] Beko
                Brand washing machines Beko are produced in Kirzhach (Vladimir region). [8]
                Beko factory in Russia produces 600 thousand washing machines per year. [9]
                [edit] Bosch
                In Strelna (St. Petersburg) there is a full-cycle plant for the production of machines under the brands Bosch and Siemens.
                Production capacity - 350 thousand washing machines per year. The plant belongs to the company BSH household appliances (Russian subsidiary Bosch und Siemens Hausgerate). [10] [11] [12]
                The plant was opened in mid-2012. Investments in it amounted to 1,2 billion rubles, another 800 million was invested in the expansion of the logistics complex. [13]
                The localization level of washing machine production at the plant is almost 40%. In May 2014, BSH CEO Hans-Kersten Hrubesh announced that the company wants to bring the localization level to 60-70% within three years.[14]
                [edit] Vestel
                Vestel washing machines are produced in Kirzhach (Vladimir region). [15]
                Vestel produces 600 thousand washing machines a year in Russia. [16]
                At the plant in Kirzhach there are three stages (input, internal and final) and two levels (selective and 100%) of control. Purchased components and components manufactured by the plant pass selective acceptance control and 100% inspection during assembly. The collected product is subjected to 100% functional control on the assembly line and selective control by the laboratory. [17]
                [edit] Candy
                Candy cars are produced at the Kirov plant. [18]
                Part of the parts for the machines produced is purchased from Russian manufacturers. Guillaume Aba, marketing director, said this in an interview. Candy Hoover Group Russia: “Many parts of washing machines are purchased in the same region where the factory is located. This means that we use many Russian components at the Kirov plant. ”[19]
                1. +1
                  28 January 2016 12: 45
                  Quote: Scoun
                  Russia: “Many parts of washing machines are purchased in the same region where the factory is located. This means that we use many Russian components at the Kirov plant. ”[19]


                  It’s time to use 100% of its components
                2. -2
                  28 January 2016 13: 07
                  Quote: Scoun
                  Quote: iConst
                  I bought CDs for my wife for tax reports - it costs 75 rubles,

                  Honestly, where is it on CD? we don’t sell them at all ... they just don’t exist! All with flash drives.
                  - In St. Petersburg. Give a flash drive - it will be too greasy.

                  Quote: Scoun
                  Quote: iConst
                  All household appliances - stoves, washers, irons (b ... t!) All from behind the hill!

                  Production Localization Data from 2010 years for washing machines (similar for refrigerators and stoves)
                  - Ohhhh ... Better look at the statistics now. Two big differences.

                  Quote: Scoun
                  The top three also included LG Electronics Rus (LG) and Beko. [4]
                  [edit] Indesit
                  Brand washing machines Indesit and Hotpoint-Ariston are manufactured in Lipetsk

                  .....

                  In Strelna (St. Petersburg) there is a full-cycle plant for the production of machines under the brands Bosch and Siemens. ....
                  - What is a full cycle? LIES!

                  Screwdriver technology. As an everywhere. Everywhere the law is broken that at least 50% of the components must be of domestic production. And if and which ones are used - again, from imported raw materials, etc.

                  Haha ... They close their eyes to this - otherwise the plants need to be closed.

                  And now the main summary: based on everything that happens (25 years already), two conclusions can be drawn:

                  - the Russian people do not know how / do not want / are not able to do business, work and all that jazz.
                  or
                  - the government is not able / unwilling / incapable create normal conditions for the prosperity of business in Russia.

                  It seems to me that the second reason is more probable.
                  1. +1
                    28 January 2016 13: 47
                    Quote: iConst
                    - In St. Petersburg. Give a flash drive - it will be too greasy.

                    I went to the accounting department and asked how our shipments ...
                    Ours have been sending and doing everything online for a long time.
                    So the endangered discs in price are from the reluctance of the management to buy an accounting "package", and you shouldn't complain about discs in this case.
                    Quote: iConst
                    - What is a full cycle? LIES!

                    Screwdriver technology. As an everywhere. Everywhere the law is broken that at least 50% of the components must be of domestic production.

                    Literally an hour ago I swore with our designer))) and that's what "surfaced".
                    By the end of 2014, the main export vector of Russian high-tech products was sent to the CIS countries, which accounted for over 30% of the total export of high-tech products. In 2015, it is logical to expect an increase in the share of these countries in the volume of domestic exports due to the presence of foreign trade sanctions by Western partners.

                    and another 70% where did it go?
                    and what kind of high-tech is it? )))
                    http://www.rusexporter.ru/news/detail/3317/
                    1. +5
                      28 January 2016 14: 00
                      Quote: Scoun
                      and what kind of high-tech is it? )))

                      - Not certainly in that way. I do not argue that there are enterprises producing high-tech products.

                      You did not carefully read or understand the vector: the question is how these products are produced. From what and on what.

                      And the second question: yes, what is it and where does 70% of this production go besides the CIS?

                      And one more thing: if you take away the RD-180 from your link - how many of these products will remain? smile

                      Summary: tears anyway. What is available is rather in spite of than "because of".

                      And for a country like Russia to have 99% of enterprises for the production of standard "household goods" with monkey conveyors is a shame.
                  2. +4
                    28 January 2016 14: 29
                    Everywhere the law is broken that at least 50% of the components must be of domestic production. And if and which ones are used - again, from imported raw materials, etc.


                    Don't like that Bosch is not 100% domestic production? buy a domestic washing machine "baby" "Vyatka". Support the domestic manufacturer!
                  3. +2
                    28 January 2016 16: 09
                    Quote: iConst
                    Give a flash drive - it will be too greasy.

                    Sorry, why give it away for good? Information was considered - immediately returned. Or from a paper report, the barcode was read by the scanner and that's it. Minute affair. So it is with us.
                    Py.Sy. I speak for SP. Maybe of course with large enterprises differently.
                3. 0
                  28 January 2016 15: 03
                  LG factory is located in the city of Ruza (Moscow region). [7
                  I have been giving cottages there for a long time, the LG factory did not meet, maybe I did not pay attention?
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                5. Hon
                  0
                  28 January 2016 19: 46
                  About two weeks ago, the data in the UBEP was given on a CD. What media do you offer? On a flash drive? Every time a flash drive is expensive then.
              3. +4
                28 January 2016 12: 31
                Quote: iConst
                I bought CDs for my wife for tax reports - it costs 75 rubles, a year ago (one disk was left with a glued price tag on the box) - 29 rubles. But! A year ago they already managed to rise in price.

                .. and, the prices of vegetables, butter, milk, bread are no more important ?! .. hi
              4. +1
                28 January 2016 13: 59
                Computer hardware is 100% import, and so the prices are.
              5. +4
                28 January 2016 14: 23
                Please give me an economic scenario for my question. I think the rest will be interesting.


                Yes, the layout is simple. Why do you want a salary increase? Because prices are up, right? Correctly.
                Why have the prices gone up? Because, in fact, among those who set prices, the salary fell in dollar terms. They don't want to shrink. "Let this" rabble "tighten their belts, but we, boyars, are not supposed to be in terms of status."
                Then many of our "locomotives" of the economy, Rosneft, Gazprom, Lukoy, NLMK, with colossal profits, took loans in the West. Should I give it back? It is necessary. They buy up currency in order to give it away, which leads to an increase in the bite in part, and they were also cut off, as they say, from lending. Therefore, they are trying to make up for their unjustified cost overruns at the expense of the domestic market. God forbid, they keep the prices for their products.

                So much for the rise in food prices.
                We humans are trying to combine our limitless greed and greed with social justice. And this is by no means compatible.
            3. 0
              28 January 2016 12: 08
              Quote: Darkmor
              If necessary, they will transfer the plants to us. If it is cheaper, they will hire our workers and buy our own raw materials. If everything is very bad, they will convert their own ruble revenue not into dollars, but into commodity barter.


              It would be good ...
            4. +4
              28 January 2016 12: 09
              And what is it all about dollars settled? Mr. Ulyukaev reported to Putin the day before yesterday that people were used to dollar fluctuations, and didn’t care much how much they cost. So, you have to sit quietly and sniff in two holes.
            5. +8
              28 January 2016 14: 04
              You are very mistaken.


              Dear thinking people! To articles of this kind, which link our standard of living with sanctions, the Crimea and Turkey. This is ordinary trolling.
              We received sanctions for the Crimea only in the field of deliveries of industrial goods: machine tools, technologies. Some individuals have received personal sanctions. These generally affect only the life of only that person.
              What have we lost? Well at a glance: some of the automakers (Chevrolet and Honda) left our market; The West does not supply us with equipment for oil production at sea. (now not relevant - oil is cheap); we ourselves refused from imported foodstuffs (it’s time to remember that cows can moo even in our country, and what are the harvests in recent years?); loss in microelectronics - a ban on the supply of dual-use chips (I don’t remember something that we had a powerful production of our own computers. IRBIS does not count this screwdriver assembly); clothes and shoes of world brands (well, they were not accessible to the majority anyway); shoes (this is not critical, in Russia they also know how to make shoes. I walk in such a way); parmesan and jamon (what is this?); machine tools and equipment (well, here it’s more difficult for me to judge what’s in mechanical engineering. I’m a builder, all that is needed for construction is there); oh yes, electronics and iPhones (didn’t you buy proc at the end of 2014?). No? It’s strange. Recklessly of you!
              And so why are prices rising?
              1. This is because no one wants to increase production. It’s easier to do less, but more expensive than many, but cheaper. Lack of normal competition. A simple example. From whatever you decide to build your house anyway, it will come out at about the same cost. Well, if it's not specifically garbage.
              2. The crisis in the country has already been serious for 2 years, and the people want to live like 6 years ago. Life has risen in price, and the costs must be replenished or shrunk. Not all are squeezed.
              That's the rise in prices. The owner of some "Magnet" also wants to rest in Courchevel and at the same time pay for the girls from the escort service. He just can't do it with a guitar on Baikal.
              3. A strong drop in oil prices. Here, Russia also had a hand in this. Russia and Saudi Arabia are the largest suppliers of oil to the market. Reduce volumes - a loss of the market, with the same income, while competitors will receive superprofits. Accusing the Saudis of a constant increase in oil production is unfounded. We are also constantly increasing it.
              4. The unwillingness of the Government of the Russian Federation to switch to a fixed exchange rate of the dollar and the euro. Say 60-70 rubles. There will simply be no negative consequences. An example of this is China. There are people in our government who assure us, or maybe they themselves believe that the market is everything. The market is a game on a foreign field by the rules of others. It was invented by the former metropolises in order to continue milking its former colonies.
              And why do you need dollars in everyday life? You are in Russia. It's all for rubles! Going to rest "there" - bought and drove off. What is the problem?

              Thus, neither Crimea, nor Syria, nor Turkey are the reasons for the deterioration of living standards in Russia. Only the growth of the exchange rate. And then right in the article it is written that if not for Crimea, then oil would not have fallen in price. We are apparently held here for suckers. There is really a lot of oil. And it’s getting bigger, and consumption is falling. With the low cost of the ruble, we would have one fig would be limited in the purchase of imported goods, since the price would be high.
              Well, everything seems to be. Maybe I forgot something else, but okay. The main reason is indicated.
            6. +4
              28 January 2016 16: 05
              Yes, instead of developing our own, we'd better launch "Uncle Joe" and let him build factories here. Again, these mantras are in the style of "foreign investment". We must not wait for some uncle to deign, for whatever reason, to build a factory here. We need to build this plant ourselves, we need to invest huge amounts of money, not the debt of the Federal Reserve or the ECB, we need to invest in science and production. It is clear that no one wants to do this, everyone wants to have a profit here, now and as soon as possible! This is a matter of national prestige, a matter of national security. Why can the Chinese make high-quality clothes, but the Russians can't, why the Germans can make high-quality cars and the Russians can't? It's just that the State is not interested in this in any way, these are risks, these are costs, the profit will be minimal and oh, how long ago. Look at what preferences manufacturers of products with high added value enjoy in the West, how the government licks them, at what percentage they are credited, etc. and compare with what we have. Ugh! Therefore, everyone is waiting for oil for 90 bucks and "an uncle from across the hill" who will build a plant, teach how to work, or tell a fairy tale about a beautiful life. Well wait, wait
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          3. +4
            28 January 2016 12: 51
            Quote: fn111
            Yes, and those needs in the yuan dominate)


            In fact, it is unlikely to dominate in RMB. At least in your own kitchen ....

            To the author: Roman, what happened?

            Mother-in-law came to visit? Did your wife add a car? Or indigestion?

            Let's go, go to the polls. You just take care of yourself and do not read all the comments on the site at night - it’s dangerous, you can be damaged by your health.
            1. +5
              28 January 2016 13: 18
              Quote: hrapon
              Roman, what happened?

              Mother-in-law came to visit? Did your wife add a car? Or indigestion?


              No, thank you, everything is in order. And the stomach is able to digest the crocodile, nazhivshego nails.

              Quote: hrapon
              Do not read all the comments on the site for the night - it is dangerous, it can be damaged by health.


              Here it is more difficult. This job.

              But in fact, this is really how my opinion is. Whining became colossal, and those who yesterday yelled "urrryayaya" and posted with beautiful pictures whine today.

              Again, on the "criticize - offer" principle. So I suggested. First, wipe away your tears, and then tear your backside off the sofa and go to build the Russia they want to see. Moreover, they even offered it in a very democratic way - either through elections or through Bolotnaya.

              By the way, there is one about the negative rating of the article meowed ...
              When will you, my dear, learn to read? At least through the line. Where I whitened Putin?
              I have slandered you, whiners. Something like this...
              1. +3
                28 January 2016 13: 27
                Quote: Banshee
                But in fact, this is really how my opinion is. Whining became colossal, and those who yesterday yelled "urrryayaya" and posted with beautiful pictures whine today.

                .. my respect Roman Batkovich .. hi .. I had a plus .. well, they earned a rating .. I have long noted a directly proportional dependence of the number of whining on the rank ..
                Quote: Banshee
                Again, on the "criticize - offer" principle. So I suggested. First, wipe away your tears, and then tear your backside off the sofa and go to build the Russia they want to see.

                ... here everything is much worse .. "they were not asked this, they did not pass it" .. it’s necessary to work and think .. hi
              2. +5
                28 January 2016 14: 33
                Banshee.
                In the elections, different filters are poked, but we don’t want to go through Bolotnaya. And what course our captain steers is completely incomprehensible. Here we are releasing steam.
              3. +1
                28 January 2016 19: 01
                Banshee:
                Here I 100% agree with you: you have to go to the polls and vote not for someone you will "recommend," but for someone you consider worthy of your vote. How many times did you ask your friends, did you go to vote?
                -And why, have I got nowhere to go?
                Or: Anyway, they will choose whom they need!
                And then we are really outraged that the r.v.o.l.o.s..e.
                Hence the turnout 50%, 60%. But in the Crimea, when the question arose, the turnout was 90% (if the media did not lie).
                And they made their fate themselves, it seems to me. Could after all!
                And we, in Russia? Most self-eliminates from any election. (Be the election of the chairman of the SNT, GSC or deputies to the State Duma) And then we are indignant: Where did these ... radishes come from?
                True, there is another reason that the same people are in the deputies - the fear that there will be others will suddenly become even worse! As if at present there will be an improvement. And after all, they completely reject the likelihood that others will be able to work better, more fruitfully. Those. we have those rulers whom we deserve. Something like that? Reread komenty even on our VO and make sure that it is so. There are many who think about that.
                Sorry for the confusion, comrades. But as he managed, he expressed his thought
          4. +2
            28 January 2016 20: 57
            Do you know when things will get better? And then, when every citizen (by definition, not by passport) will treat his civic duties as workers. And choose not a wallet, but your head. Then the deputies (who would still cut their somewhat inflated salaries once in 100) would think not about the reimbursement of their election expenses, but about the country. As it was in the USSR, when they chose what they deserved, and not if possible to pay for the campaign. Then it will be better. And even then not immediately. But there will be.


            The thought is correct. After the war, what devastation was restored, life was settled. So now we have to whine less and really bring the country to the lock, which is what the GDP does and God grant him health and longevity. And blah, blah by type:
            Well, and how to live a city-old pennsionerka
            for seven thousand pensions (and probably the majority), which you have to pay for the apartment, ride a bus a couple of times a day and eat three times a day, not even talking about any medications, treat your sore sores.
            the situation will not be corrected. An active life position will help here, and not "my hut is on the edge." We'll harness it for a long time, I hope we'll go as always.
        2. +2
          28 January 2016 12: 57
          For whom is calling ... an exchanger?
        3. +5
          28 January 2016 14: 15
          It is "Almost everything". I am engaged in fabrics, they are either bought abroad for foreign currency, or made from us and cotton was bought in China, respectively, for the currency (not for the yuan). All cotton produced in Central Asia (in the former Soviet republics) is bought by China, they quickly got everything in their hands there. For me personally, the rise in the dollar hits hard.

          And if you notice, I’m not talking about iPhones now.
        4. +3
          28 January 2016 15: 49
          No, not about iPhones, But Household appliances in 90% of cases are imported, AvtoTAZ uses all imported components, which are bought for? correctly dollars, with equipment for all types of industries (machines, conveyors, mills, furnaces, etc.) WOW! also overwhelmingly imported, maybe clothes and shoes oops! and then import! Since 2008 NIKHRENA (sorry, but I can't say otherwise) in terms of Real Import Substitution not s-e-l-a-n-o! The state does not do nichrome, and is not going to do in the pricing on the domestic market for energy resources (gas, electricity, gasoline) Oil has fallen in price in three, fuel at the gas station and did not scratch. Maybe since 2008 in Russia they began to sew high-quality clothes, yes no, the whole country dresses in China and Turkey. Maybe we began to make high-quality competitive cars, no, or rather, our car industry has finally gotten off the ground, but the dog is mainly on imported components from Bosch, Renault, etc. Maybe the country began to produce modern household appliances? Well, somewhere I saw an Atlant refrigerator in a store, again, only COLLECTED in Russia. The Irbis computer on the Chinese element base is also abruptly replaced so it was replaced. Therefore, YES THE DOLLAR RATE IS VERY STRONGLY INFLUENCING THE ORDINARY RESIDENT OF RUSSIA. Because under the guise of (rising import prices), "Domestic Producer" raises the prices of its products so that it can be boiled over again.
      2. +30
        28 January 2016 10: 41
        Is that really all? I don’t know what stores you are in, but in those where I go easily and naturally Russian goods are located. Moreover, foreign has become less.
        1. +13
          28 January 2016 11: 08
          A Russian citizen produces goods from Russian raw materials, using imported equipment (even light bulbs in the workshop) using foreign technology, and the company itself, if you dig around, is not entirely Russian. Question: Is the product manufactured by this company imported or domestic?
          PS Where do the money even 100% of domestic oligarchs go everyone knows.
          1. +9
            28 January 2016 11: 26
            Exactly - whose are all these Russian companies whose products are filled supermarket shelves? Big and. what is important, the main question is - in whose hands is our country.
            And I’ll tell the author - it’s better to lick ice cream.
            1. +6
              28 January 2016 11: 41
              Quote: NordUral
              in whose hands is our country.

              Everything according to the theory of historical materialism is in the hands of the big bourgeoisie and monetar ministers
            2. +8
              28 January 2016 12: 12
              Quote: NordUral
              Big and. what is important, the main question is - in whose hands is our country. And I’ll tell the author - it’s better to lick ice cream.

              Why so?
              The author, of course, wrote a lot of words, but the grain of the article is not in the dollar exchange rate or in what we buy on them with the weakness of our industrial potentials, but in the fact that our Russian voter is inert, like an educational model of the F-1 grenade.
              We moan, criticize, lament, four years in a row, and when election day comes, whoever you put craps at the polls - cinema, mimino, beer, fishing - in the end we have what we have - which then has the whole country in any form accessible to it .
              So it turns out that everything is to blame, just not ourselves.
              On the eve of the 2016 elections, the article is relevant - we want to change something, so it is necessary, according to the author's classification, "to tear the clear-cut ass off the sofa" and go to vote against this government, i.e. against United Russia, whose chairman is the above-mentioned D. Medvedev. There is no other, peaceful, way to express the people's FU yet.
              And all the graters on the dollar exchange rate and the price of oil are simply taking the discussion aside, since we obviously are not able to influence their quotes.
            3. +7
              28 January 2016 12: 23
              Quote: NordUral
              And I’ll tell the author - it’s better to lick ice cream

              Eh heh heh .... it's me to Roma ...
              You pissed in the article what the hell.
              Everything is fine. Everything is fine. Let's go on course and where? Tell you where? ... the moderators will say ...
              Ah Roma ... Roma what a mess in your little head, why do you "love" your people and haish, you call us whiners, ... they say we chose these ... to say sickeningly with G ... Duma and HEAD. We? Why such a fright ... let's go and vote? For them?
              And I’ll tell you Roma ... the Russian people do not ache, he mumbles in the kitchen for a cup, he kicks him like a roly-vodka, and he sways and gets up and so every day he is noticed.
              But you shouldn’t put it on your head ... there are many examples in history.
              ----------
              And about "ice cream" ... hard ... respect!
              1. +2
                28 January 2016 13: 27
                Quote: UralChel
                You pissed in the article what the hell.


                S! Yo Yes!

                Quote: UralChel
                Everything is good everything is fine, we are going the right course and where? I tell you where?


                I myself understand perfectly. Do not. I agree.

                Quote: UralChel
                Ah Roma ... Roma what a mess in your little head, why do you "love" your people so much and haish, you call us whiners


                Not all. Not all. Not all whine.

                Quote: UralChel
                they say we chose these ... say sickeningly with G ... Dumas and HEAD. We? This is why such a frightened ... went and voted? For them?


                Hmm ... funny. And who chose them? I??? No, I have an alibi, I counted the voices. And I will do this every election, a habit already. And every election is the same: they go and vote for the EP. And then whine. And then again they go and vote for the same ones. And again whine.

                And about the "stuffing" is complete garbage. No stuffing is needed, there are enough absentee ballots.

                I kind of described the problem, from where the legs grow, and you just about dislike for the people. And work in the counting on a couple of choices, the eyes will open too. And you will understand me.
                1. +1
                  28 January 2016 20: 08
                  Quote: Banshee
                  I kind of described the problem, from where the legs grow, and you just about dislike for the people. And work in the counting on a couple of choices, the eyes will open too. And you will understand me.

                  --------------
                  Something drew a cold ... maybe you believe it?
                  Everything is wrong ...
                  It’s hard on my soul .... by the way, is there really no way out?
                  And how to endure that kind of ignorance to your people?
                  ---
                  Well, for example, I personally will not trample on the "swamp", but how far away we will live ... think to give it, I will say so, not everything is so simple ... but also not tricky ... the time will come, oh it will come. .. pulled cold
          2. +4
            28 January 2016 11: 53
            so where does the money of our oligarchs go? share the secret.
            and remind me what was there in Cyprus? and where is the money going now?
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            2. +2
              28 January 2016 12: 40
              Quote: just explo
              remind me what was there in Cyprus

              There was a seizure (by the EC leadership) of 30% of the amount of large deposits in Cypriot banks - in exchange for providing these banks with euro-liquidity. That is, the "enlightened" monetary authorities of the EU simply took away from the depositors (and the Russian oligarchs as well) a very decent amount of funds ("acquired by overwhelming capitalist labor")
              1. 0
                28 January 2016 20: 33
                That's it, and who is now strongly going to keep money in the west? everything is either legalized in Russia or transferred to the East, but practically no one trusts the West now.
        2. mihasik
          +16
          28 January 2016 11: 36
          Quote: Wedmak
          Is that really all? I don’t know what stores you are in, but in those where I go easily and naturally Russian goods are located. Moreover, foreign has become less.

          That's not all!) I agree! But...
          One example:
          Cheese "Creamy" from the Salsk Dairy Plant (Rostov Region) cost 13 rubles / kg at the end of the 247th, but in the spring of 14th it was already 420 rubles / kg and so on with all the goods.
          Question. On the basis of what, such a take-off?) What, all the components from Europe brought? Or maybe workers were discharged sharply from France? Domestic now stands or also as an imported product, and somewhere even more expensive. And you know which argument?))) The product is domestic !!!! Be proud, s * ka! And eat what they give!
          Nothing like that?
          1. +3
            28 January 2016 11: 45
            Quote: mihasik
            Doesn't remind anything

            Take what is - the principle of unobtrusive Soviet service
            1. mihasik
              +4
              28 January 2016 12: 17
              Quote: OldWiser
              Quote: mihasik
              Doesn't remind anything

              Take what is - the principle of unobtrusive Soviet service

              Here I am about the same! In the wake of sanctions, etc., in the muddy water they began to cut "coupons" on the layman!
              They want me to be proud of our Government?
              But what about Medvedevskoe: "The collapse of the ruble is beneficial for the state budget"? I am happy for the State budget, but not very much for the population! And in another way, without "ripping off the skin" from the population, no matter how, eh, Prime Minister? Weak ?!
              If weak, what are you sitting there?
        3. +10
          28 January 2016 11: 47
          Quote: Wedmak
          Is that really all? I don’t know what stores you are in, but in those where I go easily and naturally Russian goods are located. Moreover, foreign has become less.

          You are wrong. If the product does not say made in USA, it does not mean that it is purely domestic.
          For example, you put food in a bag in a supermarket, this bag is made of domestic polyethylene, but there is no machine on which the bag is made. Anyone who makes bags should regularly repair equipment for which consumables are bought for US dollars. The fall of the ruble leads to an increase in production costs, the manufacturer will accordingly raise the price of bags.
          It’s a trifle, but a common star is made up of such trifles.
          And God forbid you get seriously ill, then you will feel the fall of the ruble on yourself at 100% ...
        4. 0
          29 January 2016 07: 21
          Please provide a list of goods offhand. Maybe I really do not go to those stores. That would not be unfounded I will say for example the ECU in all Bosh Vases is a Russian company? My phone is Sony. Can it be Russian? Samsung monitor - this is what our 100% did good Clothing almost all from Turkey, alas, I bought it back in the summer. And though stop !! Socks!!! Cotton socks on the label proudly written Made in Russia! Well now it’s definitely not lost!
      3. +13
        28 January 2016 10: 44
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad. If it was produced in Russia - then yes, do not care for the dollar.


        Yes you?! True?! For dollars ?! All that lies ?! In what stores do you shop, not in the Beryozochka network for an hour ?! I don’t observe any imports, and if I occasionally come across something, then I just pass by, I support exclusively the domestic manufacturer!
        1. +17
          28 January 2016 10: 46
          Medicines are almost all imported. Household appliances and electronics - too. In the food industry, a significant portion of raw materials comes from abroad.
          1. +6
            28 January 2016 10: 52
            Are you aware that, for example, more than 60% of Samsung monitors and TVs are manufactured in Russia and from Russian accessories?
            1. +15
              28 January 2016 10: 59
              I think that further more than 60%. Only they are not from Russian components ... We only have an assembly ....
              1. 0
                28 January 2016 18: 23
                Importing foreign components and spare parts from abroad has become damn expensive.
          2. +17
            28 January 2016 10: 53
            Medicines are almost all imported.

            Yeah, but Russian ones cost 5 cheaper, as you ask in pharmacies.

            The equipment is really foreign, but for the most part it is assembled in Russia.
            Eeemmm .. Food industry raw materials is that? Meat? Cereals? We are milking for export, last month pork export brought down prices for it throughout Europe. Huh ... Wait a bit, let our manufacturers spin up.
            1. +3
              28 January 2016 13: 17
              Wait a bit, let our manufacturers spin up. ,,
              but who’s against it, just pay attention, crowding out foreign companies, our prices right away twist like they live in the West. Moreover, the government does nothing to regulate this lawlessness. Roman insulted everyone in vain, do not confuse the lawlessness of officials, love for your country.
            2. +1
              28 January 2016 14: 52
              Quote: Wedmak
              We are milking for export, last month pork export brought down prices for it throughout Europe



              You imagine that. Well, I’m alive, it means in Europe in Germany, I wander around Europe in particular, Holland, France, Switzerland, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, and I haven’t seen pork cheaper anywhere. Yes, there are stocks in stores for a certain portion of meat, but this is only for a week. To attract customers and then the price rises. I can’t agree with your statement. This is what I myself have festively seen in the last 24 days.
          3. +10
            28 January 2016 10: 53
            Household appliances with labels are foreign, and all (90%) are assembled in Russia.
            Production is localized very seriously.

            Or do you have a concept that Russian is a Zil refrigerator? No, really, I myself would buy a ZIL refrigerator if it were the same in characteristics and consumer properties as Indesit or Virpul or Samsung, but it is mine!
            1. +2
              28 January 2016 12: 36
              Household appliances with labels are foreign, and all (90%) are assembled in Russia.
              Production is localized very seriously.

              Or do you have a concept that Russian is a Zil refrigerator? No, really, I myself would buy a ZIL refrigerator if it were the same in characteristics and consumer properties as Indesit or Virpul or Samsung, but it is mine!


              Haha, my friend laughed for a long time. You yourself said they were going to. And spare parts WHAT IN RUSSIA ARE MADE?
          4. +18
            28 January 2016 10: 57
            Quote: Kibalchish
            Medicines are almost all imported. Household appliances and electronics - too. In the food industry, a significant portion of raw materials comes from abroad.


            And you are aware that imported drugs due to the collusion of pharmacists! For example, in our pharmacies they do not sell Russian antiviral medicine, which costs 56 rubles, but they sell an imported analogue for 234 rubles! They say that they say there is no Russian on sale, but they themselves keep it for themselves, for their own people, so to speak! The information is accurate, received from a friend who works in this pharmacy!

            Is Putin also to blame ?!
            1. +7
              28 January 2016 12: 00
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Is Putin also to blame ?!

              Who?
              1. 0
                28 January 2016 13: 14
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Is Putin also to blame ?!
                Who?

                Obviously a friend. Tell me who your friend is .... I wanted to make money on "OPEL" ... no better I SAVE.
            2. +1
              28 January 2016 12: 56
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              For example, in our pharmacies they do not sell Russian antiviral medicine, which costs 56 rubles, but they sell an imported analogue for 234 rubles! They say that they say there is no Russian on sale, but they themselves keep it for themselves, for their own people, so to speak! The information is accurate, received from a friend who works in this pharmacy!

              You can advise your friend to start writing fairy tales. The drug has such an interesting feature as an expiration date. Ask your friend what delay measures apply to them. In addition, there is such an interesting event as an internal audit. And the inspector does not differ from the buyer in any way, but he knows for sure what is on the leftovers, since modern technologies allow this to be done. Written down by me from the words of a specialist. smile
          5. +4
            28 January 2016 11: 26
            And you ask instead of imported medicine to sell you ours. Perhaps you will be surprised when you are offered a domestic substitute, only the price will be three times lower, with the same result, of course, not all replacement with 100%, probably this is not in any country in the world .... Well, there are a lot of household appliances everything we need is collected from us, starting from styrene. cars and TV ending cars ... Well, about the food industry, I just said nothing, just wanted to know about a significant part?
            1. 0
              28 January 2016 18: 26
              The only thing we have is very few domestic anti-cancer drugs.
          6. 0
            5 February 2016 23: 42
            Quote: Kibalchish
            Medicines are almost all imported. Household appliances and electronics - too. In the food industry, a significant portion of raw materials comes from abroad.

            You're right. Here are just arrows on all the foreign countries if not paid up by the young reformers, then the weak-minded ones.
            Kybala, whose condensed milk are you eating? You an hour, not a bad guy? Or simply with information processing jambs.
        2. +4
          28 January 2016 11: 30
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          I support exclusively domestic producer!

          The same garbage, okromya auto. When quality will correspond to the price, then I’ll think about it.
          1. +7
            28 January 2016 11: 50
            Quote: subbtin.725
            The same garbage, okromya auto. When quality will correspond to the price, then I’ll think about it.


            Agree! Itself on "Opel" I go! We are in trouble with the auto industry and with football, and also fools and roads! Pichalka! crying
            1. +7
              28 January 2016 12: 09
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              With the car industry and with football, we have trouble
              - And one and the same.

              "Domestic" car industry (VAZ) - 60+ percent of the shares belong to the Renault-Nissan concern. The same alignment for components: most of it because of the hillock.

              So we draw conclusions.
              1. +3
                28 January 2016 12: 48
                Quote: iConst
                "Domestic" car industry (VAZ) - 60+ percent of the shares belong to the Renault-Nissan concern. The same alignment for components: most of it because of the hillock.

                ... and what of that ?! .. when we were engaged in civilian products? .. since the 8th century, we have not crawled out of the wars with Eurointegrators .. we are constantly forced to engage in weapons development we do it best of all ! .. and, we will focus on irons and washers from a country called Russia that the gentlemen mentioned above will not leave a shred above .. to them our land oh how you need .. hi
              2. +4
                28 January 2016 15: 24
                Quote: iConst
                "Domestic" car industry (VAZ) - 60+ percent of the shares belong to the Renault-Nissan concern

                Last year, the concern had a half +1 share. When did you manage to sell another 10%?
                In general, VAZ is the most slandered Russian plant. Even in VO there are figures who are harassing our mechanical engineering.
                We draw conclusions and do not participate in the persecution ...
                1. +1
                  28 January 2016 15: 34
                  Quote: Perun's grandson

                  Last year, the concern had a half +1 share. When did you manage to sell another 10%?

                  - Good morning! Fuck knows, years! Welkem on the official website of AvtoVAZ. Shareholders section.

                  Ochch be surprised ... laughing laughing
                  1. +1
                    2 February 2016 11: 26
                    Quote: iConst
                    Welkem on the official website of AvtoVAZ. Shareholders section.
                    Ochch be surprised ...

                    I went and looked.
                    Quote from the "Share Capital" section:
                    74,5% Alliance Rostec Auto BV
                    25,5% Minority Shareholders

                    Nearby distribution of ownership within the alliance:
                    32,87% Russian Technology
                    67,13% Renault Nissan Alliance

                    Calculation on the calculator gives:
                    74,5% * 67,13% = 50,01185% of shares owned by Renault-Nissan
                    Where is the mistake?
            2. -2
              28 January 2016 12: 54
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Quote: subbtin.725
              The same garbage, okromya auto. When quality will correspond to the price, then I’ll think about it.


              Agree! Itself on "Opel" I go! We are in trouble with the auto industry and with football, and also fools and roads! Pichalka! crying

              and whose cell phone? wink
              1. +1
                28 January 2016 13: 38
                Quote: atalef
                and whose cell phone?

                And you? winked
                And with computers the same way! Yes
                Stop harassing yourself, bullshit!

                Skomorokhov decided to shake the crowd wassat he succeeded, spruce!
                1. +1
                  28 January 2016 13: 44
                  Quote: SklochPensioner
                  And you?

                  samsung galaxy s6
                  Quote: SklochPensioner
                  And with computers the same way!

                  INTEL, a world leader in the production of computer microprocessors and chipsets, today announced the launch of its new, sixth-generation Intel® Core ™ processor, developed in Israel, today, September 2.

                  The new processor, dubbed Skylake, has become the most advanced and most powerful company ever made. Most of the research and production of the new processor was carried out at the Haifa branch of the giant computer company, which employs thousands of Israeli engineers.

                  By the way, someone heard from me that I have everything Israeli /
            3. mihasik
              0
              28 January 2016 21: 14
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              With the auto industry and with football, we have trouble, and also plus fools and roads! Pichalka!

              This is gender discrimination! laughing
              Dur driving we have even more! lol (do not take it personally).
            4. 0
              6 February 2016 01: 14
              Diana, I "rode" and Nisane, Merina are not the last ones. I have a higher education in the technical part. Now I "go" on a dvenashke. No worries, no hassle.
              those. The auto industry will reach the level of PAK FA-50. No doubt. Roads and fools will learn and tone.
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          3. 0
            28 January 2016 12: 52
            Quote: subbtin.725
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            I support exclusively domestic producer!

            The same garbage, okromya auto. When quality will correspond to the price, then I’ll think about it.

            and with computers how? wink
          4. +1
            28 January 2016 14: 13
            I have a friend in Germany at the assembly of a BMW. I asked him, "Like a Chinese." He said that they collect it in Germany. The components are bad, but they are installed anyway. Since 1998, they began to collect in China. And since 2002, almost 70% of the components are Chinese. And most importantly, BMW declares that no matter where the car is made, the main thing is that it is made by BMW.
        3. +4
          28 January 2016 12: 06
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          I don’t see import at home, but if something occasionally comes across, I just pass by and support exclusively the domestic producer!

          Why dissemble that? The computer from which you write our assembly too?
          1. +7
            28 January 2016 12: 21
            [quote = WUA ​​518] Why dissemble that? The computer from which you also write our assembly? / Quote]

            So what?! Should I go drown myself with grief now ?! I have a Sony TV too! I urgently need to throw it out ?! India and China are buying our weapons and imagine what a disaster they use it ....! Wow! And the Americans buy our rocket engines and also somehow do not panic about it!

            What a crazy childish "argument" about imported computers, iPhones and other equipment ?! Think of something more original, otherwise it has already set you on edge!
            1. +7
              28 January 2016 12: 37
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              What a crazy childish "argument"

              Crazy? The fact that you support the domestic manufacturer your words?
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              I urgently need to throw him out ?! India and China are buying our weapons and imagine what a misfortune, use it ....! Wow! And the Americans are buying our rocket engines and also somehow do not panic about this!

              What does this have to do with it?
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              and then already sore mouth!

              Oskomin already filled such comments.
              1. +1
                28 January 2016 12: 47
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                I urgently need to throw him out ?! India and China are buying our weapons and imagine what a misfortune, use it ....! Wow! And the Americans are buying our rocket engines and also somehow do not panic about this!
                What does this have to do with it?

                http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/%C6%E5%ED%F1%EA%E0%FF_%EB%EE%E3%E8%EA%E0
              2. +7
                28 January 2016 13: 51
                Quote: WUA 518
                Oskomin already filled such comments.


                And, I realized, the comments that would suit you should sound something like this:
                - Putin all the time;
                - Lelikusyopropalo;
                - All around are thieves and, alone I am white and fluffy:
                - Etc. etc.

                I do not like it in Russia, there is a well-known path! Suitcase-Station-West is waiting for its heroes! Bon voyage, good riddance!
                1. +5
                  28 January 2016 14: 33
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Ah, I get the comments,

                  This is exactly what you have problems with.
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  I do not like it in Russia, there is a well-known path! Suitcase-Station-West is waiting for its heroes! Bon voyage, good riddance!

                  Who are you to indicate what should I do?
            2. +3
              28 January 2016 12: 57
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              So what?! Should I go drown myself with grief now ?! I also have a Sony TV! Do I need to throw it out urgently?

              a kak?
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              I’m somehow not observing import at home, and if something occasionally comes across, I just pass by

              ?????
      4. +9
        28 January 2016 10: 47
        As it was in the USSR when they chose according to their deserts, and not if possible, to pay for the campaign.


        The article is not unambiguous, but this phrase is generally tin ... how old is the author? (I'm 56 years old). I agree on one thing, you cannot be indifferent, and you must try to exercise your rights.
        1. +9
          28 January 2016 11: 12
          Quote: cniza
          cniza RU Today, 10:47 ↑ New

          As it was in the USSR when they chose according to their deserts, and not if possible, to pay for the campaign.


          The article is not unambiguous, but this phrase is generally tin ... how old is the author? (I'm 56 years old). I agree on one thing, you cannot be indifferent, and you must try to exercise your rights.

          I remember 59 how one candidate was always chosen. All honestly. Movie. Sausage.....
          1. 0
            28 January 2016 11: 49
            "Order table" - such were the elections
        2. +3
          28 January 2016 11: 51
          Quote: cniza
          The article is not straightforward ...

          So the surrounding "objective reality" is also not unambiguous.
          There are successes. The people bought cars even in the provinces. When you walk to work on foot in the morning, it is impossible to cross the road - the cars go in a row.
          There are also failures. For instance. In Citylink, the ASUS smartphone went up by 30% in just 10 days: before the New Year price is 10.390 rubles, immediately after the new year - 13.500 rubles.
          Well, with household appliances it’s clear - they buy it for American rubles.
          But why did domestic food prices rise, for example, chicken?
          But in general it doesn’t happen that everything would be good for everyone, everywhere and in everything.
          Others Mikhailo Vasilievich Lomonosov formulated the law of conservation of matter, which is universal and in our case sounds like this:
          "If nishtyaks arrive in one place, in another place they will surely decrease and it will turn out to be a complete mess!"
          Yours! hi
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      6. +3
        28 January 2016 11: 00
        In fact, it was not under the current government that they began to destroy their own production and purchase everything necessary abroad ...
        1. Boos
          +7
          28 January 2016 11: 33
          But with the current one they continued, the course of the article - "you are to blame, but Putin is not in business ..."
          Quote: Lesovik
          In fact, it was not under the current government that they began to destroy their own production and purchase everything necessary abroad ...
        2. mihasik
          +5
          28 January 2016 11: 44
          Quote: Lesovik
          In fact, it was not under the current government that they began to destroy their own production and purchase everything necessary abroad ...

          For that, they got into the WTO at the present! But they warned: Let's put our industry and agribusiness! So it came around!
          1. +3
            28 January 2016 12: 16
            I won’t say how throughout Russia, but in the area where I came from in 15 built two plants (small ones, it’s true) and are now negotiating two, and on the former collective farm they found funds to repair the remaining yards, and bought two new tractors, without loans, by the way, and the water supply system was repaired for the first time since it was built, and two years ago the sawmill was launched there ... Maybe for some it is nothing, but for the locals it is serious event.
      7. +2
        28 January 2016 11: 06
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad

        You are some kind of wrong Kibalchish. Change your nickname to "Bad" - he also selflessly loved "a basket of cookies and a jar of jam" purchased for bourgeois currency. And we have our own Russian products in bulk. For food, so 80 - 90%
        1. +3
          28 January 2016 12: 24
          The raw materials for our products are in bulk. Percent 80. And the products are made on imported equipment.
        2. 0
          28 January 2016 13: 03
          Brand: Dairy products “Merry Milkman”, “House in the Village”, water “Essentuki”, juices “Orchard”, “Favorite”, “Tonus”, “I”
          Owner: PepsiCo
          Brand: Chocolate “Russian”, Ice cream “48 kopecks”
          Owner: Nestle
          Brand: “Mug and barrel” kvass, “Good” juice
          Owner: Coca-Cola
          This is not all. You can not comment ....


        3. 0
          5 February 2016 23: 48
          Oops. Litter for violation of intellectual rights. I also called Kibalchish Bad.
      8. +4
        28 January 2016 11: 07
        not everything is produced in foreign countries, but what’s interesting is that what we produce at a foreign price is offered to us sad
      9. +6
        28 January 2016 11: 13
        I just really do not care about the dollar and the price of oil! And for all the rest, our Western partners have created a defeatist-liberal criminal organization "PARNAS" - they love and respect dollars there! They even worship them! The main thing is more dirt on your homeland and you are in kings!

        I see society divided in half, as on the eve of 1917 .... On white and red! This is observed in all social groups: in our army, industry, science ... And if we assume a similar scenario for the development of events (God forbid), then personally I will be on the side of the Reds! And some of my friends will be for the whites ... This will be the next largest tragedy in Russia! That is why all these panic attacks about the fall of the ruble are pouring water into the mill of our western opponents! It has long been necessary to understand Russia - this is the ruble, not the dollar! Russian open spaces, this is not the sands of Texas!
      10. +2
        28 January 2016 11: 26
        Well, I don’t know ... Change shops. Go to those in which OUR sell.
        1. 0
          28 January 2016 14: 20
          Quote: BecmepH
          Well I do not know... Change shops. Go to those in which OUR sell.

          Or change the country.
          Americans, by the way, do not follow the ruble (and even the dollar !!!) exchange rate! wassat
      11. 0
        28 January 2016 11: 39
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad.

        Well, well.
        Andrey Derevyanchenko, President of Golder Electronics and owner of the Vitek brand ...
        Evgeny Nazarov, founder of the lesser-known brand of household appliances Vigor ...
        Scarlett (owned by Arima Holding Corp., a joint brainchild of Chinese and Russians) ...
        Rolsen is a brand invented in 1995 by MIPT graduate Sergei Belousov ...
        Kaiser, operating on the market as a German company since the mid-90s and invented by founding father Pavel Loginov ...
        And so on: Techno, Trony, Elenberg, Bork, Erisson, Akira, Prology, Milagro, Greenfield, Faberlic, Carlo Pazolini, Gloria Jeans, Gee Jey, Oggi, Camelot, Erich Krause and hundreds of other companies - purely Russian ...
      12. +3
        28 January 2016 11: 51
        Urya Urya and again Urya.
        We are for cheap oil and ruble devaluation.
        This will reduce (I'm not talking about a complete cessation), at least reduce the outflow of capital from Russia. This will increase the competitiveness of production, at least in the domestic market. Stop selling priceless resources for nothing.
      13. Boos
        +7
        28 January 2016 11: 52
        And the watches from Putin’s team at the Russian watch factory?
      14. +3
        28 January 2016 12: 12
        In Kazakhstan, we have almost the whole Russian-made perch, and of course local and a little Belarusian! What are you talking about, dear and what are you eating!
      15. 0
        28 January 2016 14: 28
        You're lying shallow and with a sweetheart ...
      16. +2
        28 January 2016 16: 55
        Quote: Wedmak
        Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is, I see them once a year and then on TV. And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.

        Your statement would be correct if inflation did not follow the devaluation of the ruble! And so, the dollar will jump a little and the consumer basket will be tightened afterwards. And salaries do not grow! The result is an impoverishment of the population. The average RFP of a Russian, someone has already calculated has become less than the average RFP of a Chinese. That's where we got to. But officials and oligarchs have lost the least, and some who have earned on the course, because all their savings in foreign currency are offshore. The crisis, as usual, pulls on itself. No, well, everything is clear, the crisis! But you need to shake our elite! Why are all the time extreme people?
      17. 0
        28 January 2016 17: 26
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Almost everything that is in stores is bought for dollars abroad.

        If you live in Moscow and go shopping at Shops, then it is possible that way. And those who live in Russia and go shopping in stores did not see this!
      18. 0
        28 January 2016 23: 27
        Pretty strange statement.
        I went into the refrigerator looked.
        I confess that the meat in the freezer is from Argentina.
        But everything else is ours, Russian.
        Strange statement.
    2. +7
      28 January 2016 10: 39
      Oh, how many minuses to the article! And what is wrong gentlemen are good ?! What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!
      1. Hon
        +10
        28 January 2016 10: 52
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Oh, how many minuses to the article! And what is wrong gentlemen are good ?! What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!

        Of course, Rafik is naturally not to blame.
        But only as the author’s point of view and references to the articles of the constitution, is the stubborn lobbying of the interests of Putin’s friends in combination with the Rotenberg oligarchs explained?
        As I understand it, the author does not see the corruption of the country's leadership, including the guarantor.
      2. +17
        28 January 2016 10: 57
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!

        What is he right about? The author complains that everyone is to blame, not just Putin ... But all, at least the majority, do not want to see in the power frank thieves, vile Chubais, hypocritical Ulyukaevs, Nabiulins, presumptuous oligarchs, etc. The people rightly want to see Serdyukov, Vasilyev and other henchmen in prison.
        Private Vasya Pupkin lives law-abiding, regularly goes to work, gets his beggarly salary, what else do they want to blame him? Who should comply with the law? From where the fish rots ... Those in power have completely overthrown, write off their failures to the electorate. Swota.
        1. +14
          28 January 2016 11: 03
          The author complains that everyone is to blame, not just Putin ...


          The leader is always to blame, no matter what rank he is, he bears responsibility for all. And especially for his subordinates, because it is he who forms the team around him.
        2. +9
          28 January 2016 11: 09
          Quote: Oorfene Deuce
          What is he right about?


          Why are you surrounded by thieves and ghouls, and poor people toil ?! And how many people came to the polls, to any, to local, to federal ?! I take my Rostov region! Whatever ask Golubev a thief, roads are bad, etc. etc ..., I immediately ask a question, but who did you vote for, well ....., for Golubev ............, mmm-dya! So who is to blame ?! And this despite the fact that the turnout was below 50% !!! That is, every second simply did not come, and almost every first voted for Golubev, although everyone knew who he was!

          Conclusion?! Apparently Putin is to blame, I guessed ?!
          1. +11
            28 January 2016 12: 37
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Apparently Putin is to blame, I guessed ?!

            No, he was so ... Passed by lol
            I never voted for Edro, Medvedev, Putin only the first term ... There was no point further, he turned brown, picked up a parasite company, rose due to rising oil prices, threw people, and even more oligarchs, who began to hatch like mushrooms after rain . The nomenclature is all rotten, and the terms of government only increase ... Leonid Ilyich would envy.
            Low voter turnout ... Yes, the people are already dull and don't believe in anything. Is it a joke to ruin education for 25 years, pour obscene shit from all the media, and talk about the "great accomplishments" of our "benefactors" in the news.
            He worked with election commissions, that’s where the essence of the abomination of the entire current government is ... More to come up with such illicitism and deflection. Or do you naively think that elections are a model of legality? Therefore, there is an opinion - vote, do not vote, you will still receive (censorship) ...
          2. 0
            6 February 2016 00: 13
            Oops. Diana - IN let me go in the comments.
            I'm talking about your phrase - Conclusion ?! Apparently Putin is to blame, I guessed ?!
            Diana ..........., mmm-dya!
            Did not guess.
            Blame (determined) the Lord. Putin is not lord. And it’s not his fault, the reason, which is multidimensional, is to blame. The reason is not to blame. Cause is a link in the chain of cause and effect relationships of its level. This is a consequence of the consequences of the consequences of the consequences. Well, etc.
            Diana, do not bother with the rationalization of the foolish.
      3. +7
        28 January 2016 11: 04
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        And what is wrong gentlemen are good ?! What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!

        I don’t know what the author happened there for his near-parliamentary life, but here are my 5 kopecks for the article. I won’t lie to the elections personally, I never went and I won’t go, I think this is a circus and profanity (my opinion). But parents walk, or rather walked up to one point. Once again there were elections to local authorities (a single day it seems), they come to vote as usual, they are given a list, and there they look, and they have already voted !!! Here are those on !!! To the question of the inspector, the answer was shocking - you have already voted, here are your signatures, why you came the second time, according to the law, it is not allowed to vote 2 times !!! belay Well then, of course, it started (military father and truth-seeker), but how do you think how it all ended? And nothing, a bunch of complaints, written paper and red tape, the result is that the votes anyway left for the purpose !!! A minus article clearly, the author pushed all under one comb!
        1. +10
          28 January 2016 11: 18
          Quote: OMEDB
          I don’t know what the author happened there for his near-parliamentary life, but here are my 5 kopecks for the article.


          What are you ?! I did not vote and I will not, but Putin is to blame! Iron logic! And about the stolen votes, I can admit that it was, but that's all the rest is nonsense! You don’t have Internet, to shoot a video and post it is not fate, the prosecutor’s office doesn’t work ?!

          It's just that you are too lazy to fight for your rights, that’s the whole truth! And under a lying stone, water does not flow!

          "And yet yes, Putin is to blame, but not you!" lol
          1. +8
            28 January 2016 11: 44
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            "And yet yes, Putin is to blame, but not you!"

            And you’re a direct ardent Putinist, I’ll see! It seems I did not give a reason, in my comment, to convince you that Putin is to blame. I just spoke out against the author and the article itself with regards to the elections! About the fact that I do not vote, I also indicated (my opinion) that I was not going to discuss it (for this I need to create a separate branch). The situation is such that my father spent a lot of work on establishing justice in the elections and killed a lot of time. His last straw was that he would turn to the prosecutor. Justice has triumphed, only ATTENTION !!! The elections were in September, and a positive answer (final) was received in April. of the year!!! Well, how do you like it? Fake voices I repeat, left for the purpose! And in our country, in order to achieve the truth, you need to have good health and patience!
          2. +2
            28 January 2016 12: 25
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            It's just that you are too lazy to fight for your rights, that’s the whole truth! And under a lying stone, water does not flow!


            Daria, I completely agree with you. Moreover, this picture is observed in all countries of the world, regardless of the state and nationality. Turn around the world a lot breakfast in one country, dinner in another. I communicate both with ordinary people and with those who "stand" higher. ALL the same, only in different languages.
          3. +2
            28 January 2016 14: 23
            I’m sorry, are you serious about the prosecutor’s office? Are all the authorities in the EDR there, and indeed, what inspires confidence in the normal work of this punitive body? And I go to the polls fundamentally, although I understand that I’m crap, but I don’t want to facilitate any work (censorship).
          4. 0
            6 February 2016 00: 33
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            It's just that you are too lazy to fight for your rights, that’s the whole truth!

            Diana, unwillingness to fight can be not laziness, but disbelief, cowardice, weakness of the personality’s energy, etc.
            And for, etc. there may be an understanding of the humiliation of an intellectual before the same voter who was not hidden in a psychiatric hospital because of a budget deficit for the maintenance of those who are not worthy of the right to vote in a fool or the machinations of political technologists.
        2. +1
          28 January 2016 12: 05
          . I won’t lie to the polls personally, I never went and I won’t go

          He went to the polls, although he was on the shift. Mom, brothers, and I voted for GDP, and my father for the Communists - democracy in action.
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        1. 0
          28 January 2016 11: 41
          No need to compare conditions. In the 30 years, you would have plowed for days somewhere in the factory without days off and holidays, but now you sit somewhere in the office and think out where to grind something and blame the management that the economy is not growing. Be so kind as to work as in 30, and don't kick the blame on all the others without doing anything at the same time.
          1. 0
            28 January 2016 15: 23
            Oh, nah .. Learn the story, not set out in cliches. Another right teacher teaches how to live right.
            1. -2
              28 January 2016 16: 03
              I also teach. Here you, in the course, do not know anything. Do you think you can achieve something without straining? Yeah, good luck.
              1. 0
                1 February 2016 14: 53
                Find and show the laws, charters, instructions in which a 24-hour working day with a 7-day working week was prescribed. Otherwise yap.
        2. +1
          28 January 2016 11: 49
          Quote: Mareman Vasilich
          The author, you would have better traveled to the regions, talked to pensioners, teachers, educators and doctors.

          Who have chosen for themselves ... (and further on in the article)
        3. SOF
          +2
          28 January 2016 14: 38
          Why so soon?
          The author, in this sandbox, is far from new, no rudeness was observed for him, and the context of the article is the context of the article. Emotions can, too, and nothing more.
          But is the author completely wrong? Well, of course, the fish rots from the head, right? But only, as it turns out, not at all always.
          A simple question from life (answer it yourself and try to do it very honestly):
          ...so...
          The day before you sat (yes, yes, in the same sense) without fanaticism, of course.
          In the morning of the next day, we got behind the wheel (to work, to the country house, or / etc.). "Exhaust" almost no.
          At the intersection you are slowed down by a traffic police officer.
          Further on patrol. The inspector makes you a veiled and ambiguous proposal to resolve the misunderstanding. And you tell him (to choose):
          1. Thank you friend, that you understand me!
          2. No! You can not do it this way! It’s my fault and you must punish me with deprivation of rights for two years!
          ________________________________________________________________________________
          ______
          Depending on how you answer (... myself, I don’t need to answer) and it will become clear whether decomposition always starts from the head. And whether the head can always make an urgent amputation of the tail, if it is about its existence, sometimes does not even suspect.

          I have a son, he is fond of LEGO constructor, and so - whatever one may say, but any complexity, the design, it turns out, starts from the very first block. And if the block is deformed, then the design can not be assembled.

          "You need to love the Motherland as it is." Lieutenant General A.N. Tupolev
          1. +5
            28 January 2016 17: 22
            Quote: SOF
            At the intersection you are slowed down by a traffic police officer.

            I consider incorrect comparison with DPS ...
            The level of responsibility is different. And besides, I did not hear that any snickering bureaucrat in this situation admitted his guilt. Faster traffic police will fly out of work ...
            Then, such a greasy ch.m. sits, it is important that he lounges in an armchair and calls for law and order. If someday they’ll take for eggs - so after all he is essentially a victim of the system. Everyone is stealing, am I worse ...? And on the other hand, you can’t hold out in power. You steal there, lick here ... Bend, lobby, roll away. System.
            But they are broadcasting brainwashed by Putin’s liberal propaganda - start with yourself, and all will be happy!
            Beauty!
            It is unlikely that there will be any sense in such appeals; they have not given examples. And they filed just the opposite. They have discredited themselves sufficiently, and there is no faith in them. They have come off so much that they cannot even understand this.
            Do not rock the boat type - while purposefully leading the country to shocks, which they themselves are afraid of like fire.
            I’m all of this to the fact that you can be a highly moral and deeply moral person, but you won’t get this country out of * experience. We are here taking care of the fate of the motherland, and not of the philosophy of the individual.
            The system and approaches need to be changed. Then there will be a result.
      5. +17
        28 January 2016 11: 21
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Oh, how many minuses to the article! And what is wrong gentlemen are good ?! What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!


        Minus the article for the fact that the author shifted responsibility from the authorities to the voters. And I have never voted for this power! Not for Putin, not for the LADY. And I'm not going to vote for Edrasov. I go to elections regularly. And the topic is familiar. "Begin rebuilding with yourself." The case ended with the destruction of the USSR, if anyone has forgotten.
      6. -5
        28 January 2016 11: 21
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!

        I also cringed on the number of minuses. It seems like adults, they read smart articles ... But how it all came to money, everything seems to break loose and splash with negativity. It’s understandable, it just so happened today if there is money — then Ivan Petrovich, there is no money — Vanka (removed by the censorship of the site). Food seems to be there, no one dies of hunger. Well, you didn’t go on vacation abroad to rest, well, the purchase of a car, a TV set, a computer was lost ... Where have my great people gone who won any war? What kind of big-bellied monkeys that feel comfortable while shopping surround me? What (removed by censorship of the site), denyuzhkov is not enough, wuxi-pusi he did not buy anything there ... They robbed the poor.
        1. mihasik
          +2
          28 January 2016 11: 58
          Quote: Alexej
          And how it all came to money, everything, as if they were breaking the chain and splashing with negativity.

          And it always has been! And why wonder?
          When the USSR was "brought down" what were they bothering about, can you remember? Not about freedom, hamburgers and jeans? Not about the stomach? And the hell that the country is falling apart!
          In the USSR, ALL the people were in an equal position (not counting the "confidants", but according to statistics it was minuscule) and the difficulties were more easily endured together.
          And now? And now every man for himself! Yes, and thick skin for crises is now different for everyone. From there, and the replicas are different: someone "zashibis everything", and someone "zhva". Capitalism however! Well, they did what they wanted!
      7. +5
        28 January 2016 11: 25
        Where is the truth? Under any article there are comments of smart, adequate people and freaks like the author. (banned for this, and with him). The article is slang from the "screams" and "screams" of the offended. So they are in place. They work, plow, get paid. Much not bothering to understand what's what. They are not paid for understanding, but for "shouting" and "screaming". I don’t understand why VO publishes such articles here? If only it looked like an alternative point of view ... And then there are obvious grant eaters.
      8. +4
        28 January 2016 11: 27
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Oh, how many minuses to the article! And what is wrong gentlemen are good ?! What is the author wrong about ?! Or is it really pricking my eyes ?!

        Diana, I don’t know your age ... and it’s not correct to ask him .... but, anyway, in the second half of the 80s it was even worse. My favorite dish (from despair) I had - noodles with sugar (and they sold them on coupons). My father was an officer, there were three children in the family, I am the eldest. I note that we then lived in the USSR and the country (according to the author), honored people ruled the country. And what have we come to ???
        One thing I can say - it is impossible to allow revolutionary processes in the country. What this leads to (like any revolution) can be seen in many examples. The last is Ukraine. And the author stopped his attention on this!
        1. KOH
          +5
          28 January 2016 11: 49
          At that time I was already 27-28 years old as an adult, is this a well-deserved hunchback? ...
        2. +1
          28 January 2016 12: 08
          Quote: Patriot 1
          One thing I can say - it is impossible to allow revolutionary processes in the country.

          I agree, we do not need revolutions (coups) under any sauce.
        3. +5
          28 January 2016 12: 22
          Quote: Patriot 1
          One thing I can say - it is impossible to allow revolutionary processes in the country.
          - To whom is this appeal? To the snickering "elite" or to the already not boisterous general population?

          The country is dying out because it does not give birth, because there are no conditions, because they cannot be created, because there is little money and you need to plow.

          The West is dying out - women need to work too, what the hell are children ?!

          Germany, observing the KKK (not to be confused with the American one!) Managed for a couple of decades after the losses of the First World War not only to restore, but also significantly increase the population.

          Do not believe in a positive "offspring" of statistics - this is fiction due to migration.
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      10. +3
        28 January 2016 11: 55
        Accidentally clicked on "-", sorry.
      11. +7
        3 February 2016 18: 22
        Apparently strongly hooked!
    3. +24
      28 January 2016 10: 39
      But you are not embarrassed that the salary is not growing, and the prices are rising very quickly. And I, for example, already physically cannot work anymore, what can I do?
      1. +6
        28 January 2016 10: 43
        About the rapid rise in prices, you turned it down. They really have grown, but objective reasons are sanctions. But I will tolerate, if only to put in place the snickering impudent Anglo-Saxons.
        1. +11
          28 January 2016 10: 48
          Look at the dynamics of rising gas prices: in 2008 a liter of 95 cost 23 rubles, now it costs 39 rubles. At 2,15 rubles per year on average. And it is growing constantly, regardless of the sanctions and the ruble exchange rate.
          1. +1
            28 January 2016 11: 49
            Quote: Maksus
            Look at the dynamics of rising gas prices: in 2008 a liter of 95 cost 23 rubles, now it costs 39 rubles. At 2,15 rubles per year on average. And it is growing constantly, regardless of the sanctions and the ruble exchange rate.

            No need to panic. Panic is only beneficial because it is going to bring people to the Maidan.
            Now calmly and essentially:
            Firstly, about the increase in gas prices by 2,15 rubles per year. But given inflation, there is no growth!
            Secondly, half of the cost of gasoline is made up of fees and excise taxes. Which are not connected in any way with exchange speculation in futures, but which are also influenced by inflation.
            Now the question is backfill: does inflation depend on sanctions or not?
            Thirdly, most of the second half of the cost of gasoline is the cost of production and logistics. Which are also in no way connected with the exchange games of "partners", but which are influenced by the imposed restrictions on the sale of equipment to us and the rise in its cost.
            Now the question is backfill: and the restrictions on sales of equipment to us and the increase in its cost depends on sanctions and the ruble exchange rate or not?
            So ...
            1. +8
              28 January 2016 11: 59
              You again? Are you chasing me? People, save !!! The grandson of Perun follows me on the heels !!!
              Do you want a simple answer to all your questions? In 2008, my salary as a doctor was 16 thousand rubles, now 17300. Strongly grown over 7 years, taking into account the fact that experience and category? The correct answer is that they have not grown. So, adiez!
              1. +1
                28 January 2016 12: 25
                Quote: Maksus
                simple answer to all your questions? In 2008, my salary as a doctor was 16 thousand rubles, now 17300.

                I didn’t understand how the complaint about low wage growth answers my questions "Does the rise in the price of gasoline depend on sanctions and the ruble exchange rate or not?" winked
                Explain, otherwise it looks very much like taking the conversation aside, when you don’t want to admit your wrongness, but there’s nothing to object essentially ... wink
                1. +3
                  28 January 2016 12: 32
                  This is a response to your statements about sanctions, inflation and more. There is no increase in salaries, but indexation should be taking place for state employees, no? and what sanctions were imposed on the Russian Federation from 2008 to 2014 year? Answer, and the mystery?
                  1. +2
                    28 January 2016 13: 08
                    Wait a minute, we'll talk about your salary after we finish with gasoline. I repeat, taking the conversation aside, taking revenge and insulting is immoral.
                    So, earlier I gave three arguments that explain the increase in the cost of gasoline and the dependence of growth on sanctions.
                    You didn’t refute my arguments, you just put a minus. Is that revenge?
                    Further, do not talk to me in the tone of "Answer, and the mystery man?" and "People, save me !!! Perun's grandson is following me !!!" Let's leave the antics and unnecessary emotions to the trolls, and we ourselves will talk like all other VO readers with logic and facts.
                    So, back to the cost of gasoline. Explain why you think the growth of 2,15 rubles per year is too large and independent of sanctions and the ruble exchange rate, as stated at the very beginning.
                    PS: and do not write me nasty things in PM ...
                    1. -3
                      28 January 2016 13: 18
                      I want to talk like that. You are stalking me, aren't you? And I do not like obsession and, what if you are a pervert ???
                      Answer me - what explains the increase in the price of a liter of gasoline from 2008 to 2014 year? There are no sanctions, oil is stably expensive, inflation is not strong. What is the reason for the increase in gas prices since September 2014 - oil prices are creeping down, sanctions are working. But sanctions apply to equipment for oil production, how does this concern processing?
                      1. +1
                        28 January 2016 13: 49
                        So far I see that you do not like obsession, but do not like to be responsible for your words and your actions.
                        What explains the rise in gas prices, I answered at the very beginning - inflation. In figures, the price increase is approximately equal to inflation.
                        I also wrote at the very beginning that exchange speculations with futures (what you call the "oil price") have nothing to do with either excise taxes or the cost of production / transportation / processing.
                        On the ALL I answered your questions. Will I get an answer to at least one question or at least one reasoned objection? Or will there again be throws in slogans, attempts to withdraw from the topic, answers to a question with a question, switching to personalities, etc., which is usually called Internet trolling?
                    2. 0
                      28 January 2016 13: 38
                      Yes, who needs you, write to you in PM, do not fill your price ...
                      1. +1
                        28 January 2016 17: 13
                        Quote: Maksus
                        Yes, who needs you, write to you in PM

                        This is not a place to clarify the relationship, but you are clearly asking me to poke your nose into the screenshot of your letter.
                        And of course you will not apologize either for your rudeness or for your deceit.
              2. +5
                28 January 2016 15: 13
                But doctors and teachers do not specifically increase the salary, because, at the next election, there will be nothing to promise ... And as for the price increase, our helmsmen can always explain why prices are rising, this is perhaps the only thing they do professionally, because many people believe It’s bad that our self-chosen leaders didn’t even hear about such concepts as economic security of the country, food security and other security ... And the consequences of any sanctions would be much weaker if the government were to develop its country, and not just put it in your pockets all that their playful little hands can reach.
            2. +4
              28 January 2016 13: 06
              Grandson of Perun:
              And how much did salaries increase on the pr-ve? Do not know? Not how much! And the work basically did not decrease, but even vice versa. At the expense of those who have been reduced.
              You see the crisis!
              1. +1
                28 January 2016 14: 25
                Quote: Kuzyakin15
                And how much did salaries increase on the pr-ve? Do not know? Not how much!

                Why dont know? Of course I know, because I myself work in production.
                "No" wage growth for what period are you interested in?
                I can answer immediately for my production. But this will be a special case. To tell in figures about the growth of salaries in other regions, I will need to contact former classmates. But if without numbers, then I can say that they also increased salaries ...
                1. +3
                  28 January 2016 19: 24
                  Grandson of Perun:
                  And I, in turn, know how much the salary has grown since 2013 at US on the pr-ve.
                  Five percent! Great?
                  1. +1
                    28 January 2016 23: 10
                    Quote: Kuzyakin15
                    And I, in turn, know how much the salary has grown since 2013 at US on the pr-ve.
                    Five percent! Great?

                    Since I am not a populist, collecting advantages from offended and freeloaders, I will try to answer objectively:
                    The 5% salary growth you indicated for two years is several times less than inflation during this time.
                    Why so - there are several reasons. Among them there are both objective (for example, an increase in costs due to sanctions) and subjective (for example, the desire of any capitalist to pay less and get more)
                    Since there are several reasons, there is no simple universal recipe for correcting the bias between inflation and wage growth. And if someone tells you that there is such a simple universal recipe, then carefully look at this populist. Does he want to call you to the Maidan under beautiful slogans?
        2. +11
          28 January 2016 10: 57
          And why not put (or better put) in the place of snickering impudent ministers and TOP managers?
          1. +3
            28 January 2016 12: 57
            again, a classic of historical materialism - "the working masses can remove the big bourgeoisie from power only by establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat through a socialist revolution." And in another way
            Quote: Makcim
            (and better to plant)

            will not work out in any way (from the word TOTALLY).
        3. +11
          28 January 2016 11: 06
          with what fright is the Anglo-Saxon sanction the objective reason for the increase in kindergarten fees? take the trouble to explain.
        4. +11
          28 January 2016 11: 29
          30-100-200 percent. On vegetables and fruits, is this not a rapid growth? In France, I remember for raising prices by 3 percent, they began to beat the windows
          1. 0
            28 January 2016 11: 57
            Quote: dzeredzavkomimu
            in France, I remember for raising prices by 3 percent, the shop windows began to beat

            What time to shop windows to beat? Everything - to France !!!
          2. 0
            28 January 2016 13: 03
            So what kind of traditions do the Franks have - our 90s hyperinflation in the 18th century (and ended with the Great Revolution of 1789), the execution of the royal family - 1792 (we have 1918), and so on and so forth. Therefore, for the Franks - and three percent is already a lot; and to us - like the Komsomol members of the 80s - everything is knee-deep.
        5. +16
          28 January 2016 12: 06
          And I will tolerate ..
          But what’s interesting
          -30 years of "perestroika", her mother!

          1985 - Be patient a little and there will be Heavenly Manna, let us live! (Judas with a map of America on his forehead)
          1991 - Patience, everything will be OK, and by 2000 every family will get an apartment, a car and a villa in the Canaries (just kidding) - Borka Alkash
          2000 - Be patient, everything will hurt! - "Infallible"
          2015- Suffer a little, about 20 years, a New Generation will be born, get up from our knees!

          TIRED !!!!
          I have never voted for "Eat Russia", and even more so for Putin.
          I have never been a fan of him - I soberly assess his "activities":
          - It is enough to look, for example, at the Tomsk Military Hospital, Sibelectromotor, and at least at my TNHK (TNHZ) - and there are a lot of such facilities destroyed during the years of his "reign".

          Yes, and I worked either on a construction site or on a shift, where there are enough different people, from all over our country, I heard enough and saw enough of everyone ...

          Yes, what is the empty grind?
          -Igor Rasteryaev sang excellently about this in the song "Daisies" (by the way, I consider this song the Anthem of "perestroika" and "shitty" reforms)

          Well, I honestly worked (34 years of work experience) - only in Production and Construction, I survived in spite of all this "shitty" trash.

          And what is the bottom line, the result of these 30 years of "perestroika"?
          After 3 years I will retire (2 "hot grid"):
          - Will the "Guarantor" give it to me?

          Of course, I won't die of hunger - I have my own house and personal farming (taught by the bitter experience of "perestroika"), but the fact that my only joy in old age, my favorite toy, an old well-groomed American SUV (yes, yes, it is American and I will tear into shreds anyone who says that I did not deserve it with my honest labor) will stand because of the lack of money for spare parts, although it will be sad, I will survive.

          Yes, and Oil-Mother and Gas-Father will still be needed, but it is difficult to get them without my profession.

          So there will be health - I will work as I now work as a shift.
          In principle, the son is also a shift worker, so I think we will survive.

          But what is annoying is that another "perestroika" is starting again!
          Now the Chinese are to blame for their productivity drop, the Americans and ISIS, the Great Ukrainians and the Mumbo-Yumbo tribe in the Congo mountains (just kidding).

          What kind of State have you BUILT, "Uncle Vova" (I can call it that, our age difference is not that big), which "sausage" from the "price of palm wine" in the Republic of Chad?

          I don’t want the Revolution, 30 years of "perestroika" are many, too many for one person.
          But hatred for the "crap", all those who destroyed my country of the USSR, seethes in my heart ...

          And now I understand those who once stood under the Red Banner of the Bolsheviks ...

          But fear not, there will be no revolution
          Patient Russian people ..
          And after 30 years, a 52 year old man will say like me
          -Oh, Nichrome did not come true, from what Vova promised ...

          And you know, since I think I'm not alone. There are many of us, honest, simple hard workers and who have exceeded as much as 6 dozen and older and young people who are not even 30.
          1. +2
            28 January 2016 14: 07
            Quote: Former
            TIRED !!!!
            You will die not having lived as you would like, very sorry.
          2. +2
            28 January 2016 15: 35
            A cry from the soul ... I agree with you 100. But you can make our shobla at the top work for the country, people don’t need revolutions and riots for this, people ’unity, society need to be united, I understand it is pathetic and beaten, but ... If one says no, nothing will happen, but if 50 million. say no, believe me that they will not only hear, but also do as it was said. Any government wants to be loved and can not stand the noise.
        6. +2
          28 January 2016 15: 52
          Well, Gyulchitai showed her face - she’s ready to live in a * ram, if only Obama could be ruined!
          Glory to the king! Well, or what kind of welcome do you have there ...
    4. +2
      28 January 2016 10: 41
      strange treatment! I don’t know what’s in my head, but I’ll say that there are still a lot of problems!
      1. 0
        28 January 2016 11: 59
        Including the one that the author raised, not one of the latter.
    5. Hon
      +18
      28 January 2016 10: 41
      Quote: Wedmak
      Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is, I see them once a year and then on TV. And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.

      yes, only here the prices in rubles are rising and there is no salary
      1. +4
        28 January 2016 10: 44
        Do you know when things will more or less work out for us? And then, when every citizen (by concepts, not by passport) will treat his civic duties as workers. And choose not with your wallet, but with your head. Then the deputies (who would have to cut their somewhat higher salaries once in 100) will not think about compensation for their election expenses, but about the country. As it was in the USSR, when they chose what they deserved
        What are you saying, deservedly. And Khrushchev, and Brezhnev, and Gorbachev were also chosen according to their deserts. laughing
        1. +7
          28 January 2016 10: 58
          Sorry, I’ll get in line. Do not touch Brezhnev from this list.
          1. +1
            28 January 2016 11: 59
            Quote: user3970
            Sorry, I’ll get in line. Do not touch Brezhnev from this list.

            Throne and still as a throne, do not exact. Before Brezhnev's arrival in Omsk in the 80s, the city had everything. After his departure and the phrase "What is this in some kind of shit..on Omsk communism", and then, like in a movie - empty shelves and counters in stores. I was already at school at that time, so I remember.
      2. +1
        28 January 2016 10: 47
        Give up a bottle of beer in the evening, something.
        1. Hon
          +8
          28 January 2016 11: 18
          and I don’t drink beer. prices are rising not only for beer, clothes, products from eggs, milk, meat, too, need to refuse? reductions in medicine, obviously soon you will have to refuse medical care, there are paid clinics, but can everyone afford it?
          in fact, you can refuse a lot, you can tighten your belts, but this is against the background of an increase in the salaries of deputies to 800 thousand per month, this is a question of leadership in general, and against the backdrop of the Chubais and Rotenbergs, whose people are personally covered by the guarantor.
        2. +10
          28 January 2016 11: 22
          Quote: Wedmak
          Give up a bottle of beer in the evening, something.

          And who will refuse it, because they’ve got used to this bottle of beer with fish, but on a soft sofa near the TV or laptop, and a little shame, you need to choose either a fish or a beer, as they take away the holy things, because they are used to it, they think that this is already a mandatory ritual Putin himself had to provide. The 90s forgot how they waited several months for salaries and pensions, but they needed to feed their families. hi
          1. Hon
            +5
            28 January 2016 11: 28
            Quote: vovanpain
            And who will refuse it, because they’ve got used to this bottle of beer with fish, but on a soft sofa near the TV or laptop, and a little shame, you need to choose either a fish or a beer, as they take away the holy things, because they are used to it, they think that this is already a mandatory ritual and Putin must personally provide. 90s forgot how

            How much oil was then? how would the 90s again not remember
          2. +8
            28 January 2016 15: 47
            I didn’t forget the 90s ..
            Although I spent only 2 months without money, I remember everything.

            And a bottle of beer in front of the TV (in my case, it’s a trip after a shift on my favorite toy, an old American SUV, I haven’t been drinking anything after a micro stroke for 12 years already), I and many other honest hard workers have earned!

            They deserved it themselves, without any "Putin" and others, by their honest work!
            Rather, in spite of the "efforts" of all these "shitcrats" who have raped the Country, for more than 30 years!

            Well, the 90s ...
            I doubt very much that our "guarantor" and his "entourage" in the 90s, as I worked day and night, as simple laborers, to hell, with him, masters in Production - from work to kalym (construction, electrical installation, general construction), from kalym to work, and in between taxis (I hate the word "bomb") - sometimes for 24 hours I did not get out from behind the steering wheel!
            - Everything to keep the welfare of his family at the level of the USSR.

            I think that our "Infallible" and his "Brigade" are directly related to what happened in the 90s (their current consequences).

            So don’t, about "beer and sofa", don’t, about the fact that they say, "zazhralis", there is nowhere to step from the cars:
            -Simple people, hard workers on whom this Country rests, has the right to rest and to fulfill their, in general, simple desires.

            I am constantly writing about this:
            -Come and tell them that they do not work or do not have the right to the "notorious" "sofa with beer", for example, a cattle foreman, a production operator, a driver leading a fuel truck (for example) along the Siberian winter roads, and any honest worker!
      3. +3
        28 January 2016 13: 15
        Quote: Hon
        prices in rubles are rising and there is no salary

        There are two explanations for this phenomenon -
        (1) liberal (according to Kudrin and Nechaev): for wages to grow, labor productivity must grow, and it must grow faster than the growth of s / n
        (2) the reduction in real wages (compared with the cost of living) is an expression of the growth in the degree of exploitation of wage labor by capital.

        Dear <Gon>, which option do you like more?
    6. +6
      28 January 2016 10: 48
      We still have not decided for 25 years what type of orientation our state should be, socially oriented, oak capitalist with the imposition of a big bolt on the needs of the population and constant haymaking of taxes and fees, or the a'la Yeltsyn system, do what you want, feed yourself as you want, but don't bother the state, the main thing is to vote, otherwise you will lose! Therefore, government ministers, having come to office, furnished and fed, build a management system for their direction the way he sees it, and how it is easier and more profitable for him. The result is obvious, and therefore nothing changes from the change of ministers. hi
    7. +4
      28 January 2016 10: 49
      It is necessary to invest money in the economy, and Siluanov and Ulyukaev only put sticks in the wheels. They have a task - there is money in the country, but we will give them ... So what?
    8. +15
      28 January 2016 11: 02
      The child wrote an article. Come to the polls and choose the honest one. Honest ones are cut off at the stage of candidate candidates.
      As for Putin, it seems that he really thinks that the front with the enemies of Russia passes through the Euphrates River. And inside there is silence and grace, with the exception of minor misunderstandings. But in order to continue to keep him in a similar informational cocoon, the head of the administration serves.
    9. 0
      28 January 2016 11: 43
      Quote: Wedmak
      I do not care,

      Do not care ... who are you
      Throw out his TV and that's it ... all the news will be told by the grandmother sitting on the blockade, which is even better. Yeah ... how so about the New Year's "Ogonyok" forgot ... nothing to run to your neighbor to see and for one glass on the way to overturn ... after all, a year flew by, did not die. Why do we need to watch the courses in moors, dollars soldar, we still buy for the scars. And the computer is in the trash, why does it ... interfere ... well. There will be no need to think, there will be nothing to compare ... how good is that aaaaaaa, not life but grace, I bought "TRUTH" benefit.
      Quote: Wedmak
      purchases for rubles

      What are you talking about ... for what rubles a mubli?
      You tell this to the collective farmer, maybe he will believe it, he won’t send it right yet, they also began to read and count, among other things they know how ... I think you aren’t stupid, so they will show the right direction to go and say good.
      And what this or that price of a product is made up of and how many dollars it sits there, so the Almighty knows about ... and in the production of the product how many swells are green, but they must be given ... so the cursor came to you ... WELL TRACKS?
      So ... what do we pay for in the store? and to whom and how much, etc., etc.
      Quote: Wedmak
      there is food in stores, clothes are

      but about FOOD and CLOTHING you just don’t want to talk here ...
      This is another topic ...
    10. +1
      28 January 2016 12: 22
      Quote: Wedmak
      Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are.

      I agree with this, I had no and no dollars, but additional hemorrhoids appeared at work.
      Quote: Wedmak
      I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is,

      Due to the nonsense of our dollar, Europeans began to contact us with requests for a comprehensive supply (which I can answer in a personal message to people, I won’t advertise here) in our country this position costs 60-70 rubles with VAT per m2 and in Europe 2.34 euros without VAT per m2 + VAT 22% In total, this material costs 187 rubles m2 in rubles and 228 rubles m2 with VAT (I calculated 80 for each euro) and it turns out that our product group is three times cheaper than theirs. So we are working hard.

      And now for "urya"! comrades .. at the expense of how their business is supported.
      Builders erecting a house for someone, from the customer receive money only for services / work and for the cost of materials BUT! they don’t try to sell and somehow increase the price of materials since then they get 11% from the state (they have 22% VAT) and a lot of other things ..)) but it’s not so simple. Personally, I would drop oil to the value of $ 0 per barrel.
      1. +2
        28 January 2016 12: 40
        Quote: Scoun
        Due to the nonsense of our dollar, Europeans began to contact us with requests for a comprehensive supply (which I can answer in a personal message to people, I won’t advertise here) in our country this position costs 60-70 rubles with VAT per m2 and in Europe 2.34 euros without VAT per m2 + VAT 22% In total, this material costs 187 rubles m2 in rubles and 228 rubles m2 with VAT (I calculated 80 for each euro) and it turns out that our product group is three times cheaper than theirs. So we are working hard.
        - Everything is fine, but: how much does this your secret position depend on imported raw materials and equipment? If you say - not at all, then I will not believe.

        I have not seen anything 100% domestic: raw materials / components, machines, technologies.

        Well, except for the children - and that’s because they are not made with hands ... laughing

        Therefore, the situation is this: a competitive advantage in the form of a price has a short-term effect. Moreover - this is a harmful effect. Essentially dumping.
        And, when the stocks of raw materials bought earlier come to an end and components for machine tools or the machines themselves have to be purchased, the only factor will be the salary of workers.

        Are you interested in the prospect of being a Vietnamese? I don’t.

        So enough fairy tales about the positive effect of national currency subsidence.
        1. 0
          28 January 2016 14: 34
          Quote: iConst
          Everything is fine, but: how much does this your secret position depend on imported raw materials and equipment? If you say - not at all, then I will not believe.

          2007 year

          ... The TechnoNICOL concept Vladimir Markov: “It's time to move from import substitution to increasing exports” After the introduction ... About 3-5 years elapsed from planning to the start of serious export sales, the same amount ...
          TekhnoNIKOL increases stone wool exports ...
          st.finam.ru ›ipo / memorandum \ 2657_Technonicol_2 ...
          Currently, TekhnoNIKOL Group of Companies is exporting four types of products: • rolled bitumen and bitumen-polymer ... 2007 export sales growth planned Only in these areas is more than 30%.
          See

          2015 from England to China
          Export - page 6 - Made with us
          sdelanounas.ru ›blogs /? id = 74 & page = 5
          Since mid-2015 TechnoNICOL began active promotion of its products in the People's Republic of China. ... The decline in export growth was primarily due to a decrease in sales of services provided ...
          January 22 2016

          The Russian company Eidos-medicine from Kazan, which is a resident of the Skolkovo Foundation's biomedical technology cluster, has delivered its simulation robots to Tokyo's largest medical university in Japan, Djuntendo, to train students in surgical operations.

          Production equipment successfully launched at Severnaya TPP (Estonia) Kaluga Turbine Plant

          EVRAZ is now represented in all segments of the European market of railway wheels: wheel blanks, draft and finishing wheels for freight cars. The first batch of wheel billets (NLZ 430) was shipped by EVRAZ NTMK to Germany in the summer of 2015. In the near future, an experimental batch of procurement will be delivered to the Czech Republic.

          Export
          Altai equipment purchased in Germany directly at the exhibition
          When visitors to the stand found out that we were Russians, they asked in surprise: “Do you really produce it in Russia?” And respectfully shook hands with us, ”says Maxim Savinkov, director of the company.

          You probably just have a different internet)))
          Tomsk Polytechnic University received the gold medal of the national award "Exporter of the Year" and was among the 20 leading enterprises that this year showed the best results in terms of export of technical equipment. At the same time, TPU became the only university among the award winners. Over the past five years, the Tomsk Polytechnic University delivered more than 200 betatrons to the UK alone.
          1. +1
            28 January 2016 14: 52
            Quote: Scoun
            You probably just have a different internet)))

            - So how about a question? What is the percentage of "purebred"? Huh?

            All the examples above are laughter. These are single and piece moments. And again: from what and on what is this all made?

            The question is rhetorical. smile

            Here people are fuming about 100% of the "domestic" Bosch.
            There is not a single factory producing household microchips, displays. And Bosch is 100%! Even the name! Piss yourself! laughing
            1. +1
              28 January 2016 15: 21
              Quote: iConst
              - So how about a question? What is the percentage of "purebred"? Huh?

              Quote: iConst
              All the examples above are laughter.

              I don’t know what’s funny, but there are no such examples from you. I do not shrug and do not srupolymers, there are a lot of difficulties and difficulties, but things are worth looking at realistically. Somewhere it is quite a misfortune, somewhere it is better, and I myself have personally cited the export links of the nuclear industry of South Korea and the Russian Federation ... where the indicator is very sad for us .. but just do not put everything in one basket "pro-salipolymer".
              Quote: iConst
              There is not a single factory producing household microchips, displays.

              The key word "household use" and then slyness, in your opinion, how to organize the production of "household schemes" if there was a continuous dominance akin to that of aviation.
              Where is our civil aviation and where is the military? ... Yes? different levels ?!
              Literally in November, the 18th superjet went to Mexico and just recently there was a decision in the CIS countries to transfer communications and communications connected with PCs to domestic equipment, and by the way, this very crisis gives our manufacturers a chance to reach the level of "household production"
              Domestic PCs are very much in demand in their sector, but the cost of one PC in a set was 400.000 thousand rubles.
              And work in this direction has been ongoing for a long time.
              Initially, the production of the 65-45nm factory was supposed to be made partially under state order: domestic chips for new biopassports, for the GLONASS system, for replacing imported processors in devices for the defense industry. The commercial part of demand was poorly predictable - this has not changed even now. However, the state’s interest in import substitution is growing, and recent state projects involving Mikron are quite grandiose - for example, the introduction of civilian electronic passports, which are planned to be issued everywhere in 2016.
              In July of this year, Mikron invited the state to jointly produce 28 nm chips, similar to those made by Samsung and Qualcomm. The project costs $ 1,5 billion, and to create such a factory, Mikron will probably have to develop its own next technology, since foreign technologies for manufacturing chips of the last three topological levels - 22 nm, 28 nm and 32 nm - are prohibited for sale in a number of countries including Russia. Now the project is being discussed by the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the Ministry of Economy and the Ministry of Finance, Dianov said.
              “It is still possible to reach the production of microcircuits using 45 nm technology through a thorough modernization of existing production capacities, but for 28 nm it is necessary to create a fundamentally new production.
              1. +1
                28 January 2016 16: 21
                Quote: Scoun
                I don’t know what’s funny, but from you there are no such examples.

                “I'm at a standstill: you either don’t understand, or you play the pipe.”
                I’m talking about Thomas: any more or less efficient production is stopped by amepicos at a time. They poke a finger at a specific Russian enterprise and command the whole world: do not buy / do not sell. That's it - production is covered. Because either raw materials or machines / spare parts / consumables im-port-n-e. This is not to mention the price.


                Quote: Scoun
                The key word "for household use" and then slyness
                - It is household! They don’t count money for war. Amerikos with F35 will not soon come out in profit (if they come out). But you have to!
                How many people from the entire working-age population work for the "war"? That's it.

                The main GDP is made up of household goods and services.

                Quote: Scoun
                Just in November, the 18th superjet went to Mexico

                - Yeah. Bankrupt enterprise. Well, well ... Especially in the context of sanctions in these areas of the filling.

                Quote: Scoun
                ... literally recently there was a decision in the CIS countries to transfer and PC-related communications to domestic equipment ...

                - My dear, we have heard about these decisions for decades. Why did you decide that a government that, contrary to the logic of even inexperienced people did nothing, will solve this problem?
                Quote: Scoun
                ... but for 28 nm you need to create a fundamentally new production.

                - Do you imagine what it means to establish the production of microchips? Yes, even on an industrial scale.
                I'm afraid not so much.

                I think this project will go to dust, because the Americans will not allow this. Be calm - they are closely following Russian technology and will do everything possible to slow down development.

                In the table of ranks they assigned for Russia the place of a regional raw-material power. They do not hide it.
    11. -7
      28 January 2016 12: 31
      There is still such an option for the interpretation of recent events in the world.
    12. +11
      28 January 2016 12: 41
      One question for the author, but how is it?
      1. 0
        28 January 2016 13: 34
        And why, at least, did not bring their s / n for an example?
        1. +3
          28 January 2016 15: 49
          Quote: dgiguli1962
          And why, at least, did not bring their s / n for an example?

          If I stayed to work where I worked in 2000, then 11000 are now 21000 ..
          The fact that I completely changed my life and now making more money is my merit and my mistake, I gained something and lost something .. But the fact is that the salary in the old place doubled, and the price tag is FOUR ..
      2. +1
        28 January 2016 15: 13
        Quote: max702
        One question for the author, but how is it?

        I'll try to guess ...
        Maybe because of excise taxes, of which half in the price of gasoline?
        1. +3
          28 January 2016 15: 54
          Quote: Perun's grandson

          I'll try to guess ...
          Maybe because of excise taxes, of which half in the price of gasoline?

          Sorry, but who prescribes these excise taxes? And who puts these people in this work, and who controls their work? No way we are with you .. So the claims are justified ..
      3. +1
        28 January 2016 18: 41
        Easy - costs are increasing, and gasoline is growing, as more than half of the cost of a liter of gasoline goes to the treasury.
    13. +3
      28 January 2016 12: 45
      And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.


      Why stupid? To deny everything is of course a solution. Calm yourself to find an excuse. Well, this is a solution.
      But I'm glad that in RUSSIA an understanding comes that something is wrong in the country. AU RUSSIA WAKE up enough to pay tribute of a billion a day. A country that pays tribute cannot be a world power.
    14. +4
      28 January 2016 13: 09
      Drive everything! Once a year he looks.
      Then you probably don’t have a car, and they are known from foreign components. Even city buses that drive around your city consist of 90% of them. Our people, except the frame and the body, can do nothing.
      And you are probably sitting at the computer of your neighbor. And so you would know that all this equipment is tied to the dollar. The same is about household equipment. And you wear Hopnite clothes on a hike. Because high-quality clothes are also tied to the dollar. stores now this is a low-grade product. This used to be lying around for a penny in stores. So when a pipe starts flowing in your apartment, you will be pleasantly surprised to learn that all sorts of fittings and taps are also tied to the dollar. Everything that surrounds us is done abroad or in the best case from foreign components. Even poor bolts and nuts, self-tapping screws - "pieces of iron" we have forgotten how to make.
    15. +4
      28 January 2016 14: 08
      It's not about the dollar, it's about the fact that we don’t have a government, we have mother hens sitting on their eggs and waiting for oil to rise in price or grab something else, especially now, a good time, you can grab it for nothing. It’s just evil not enough until this continues!
    16. 0
      28 January 2016 14: 22
      Quote: Wedmak
      Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is, I see them once a year and then on TV. And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.

      I get the impression that interest in the value of the dollar / euro in ruble terms is being fueled deliberately, everywhere in the "news" they try to talk about it ... as if there are no normal topics.
    17. 0
      28 January 2016 14: 24
      "Every nation has the government it deserves": -
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  2. +19
    28 January 2016 10: 32
    It’s time to get off the oil needle.
    Earth is, sensible people are. Resources rampart.
    Could provide themselves all.
    1. Hon
      -2
      28 January 2016 10: 53
      Quote: ram_design
      Could provide themselves all.

      could but cannot
    2. +8
      28 January 2016 11: 02
      Yes, just a shaft.
      But only after "Sam" nods his head, only after that something starts to move with a creak.
      And why not?
      Yes, because any independence of subordinates causes a higher suspicion among those above that someone has created a feeding trough for himself.
      And this is in power structures "The first deadly sin".
      So you can run into "Loss of trust".

      Therefore, while the supreme, of any level - the city, district, region-region-republic, etc. if he does not give consent and does not determine how much to him or his relatives - nothing will go.
      ABSOLUTELY.

      I’m talking about what I know very well.
      He began to promote certain topics.
      ALL has passed!
      From a simple clerk in a city district to the President of the Russian Federation.
      Everywhere the same thing.

      But he did not stop believing in Russia.
      He lived. I live and I will live here.
      Both children and grandchildren live here.

      And what a pity that the ruble did not become the promised reserve currency.
      But they were so horoing!

      You just have to open the bread for the mind.
      And do not caress your tongue for nothing.
      For a world-class official, this is not excusable.
    3. +2
      28 January 2016 11: 55
      Quote: ram_design
      It’s time to get off the oil needle.

      How did this liberal mantra get you! This is not a "needle", but a resource that many countries trade. Why does no one blame them for oil dependence? The same Norway, for example?
    4. 0
      28 January 2016 12: 50
      It’s time to get off the oil needle.
      Earth is, sensible people are. Resources rampart.
      Could provide themselves all.


      Bravo author good
  3. +6
    28 January 2016 10: 33
    In fact, everything is true, but poking readers in the face in their own g .... - is not good.
    1. +6
      28 January 2016 10: 47
      The issue of voter turnout was raised correctly! I have many acquaintances who do not go to the polls at all, believing that everything is already decided there, and so on, to take relatives - last fall with difficulty I dragged my wife to the polls, and she went only for that so that the former mayor does not become governor, he was not elected in the city, but he was elected in an area where no one knew what kind of guy he was. I went because everything was decided there, HOW SO? When will people start judging by their deeds and not by fiery speeches from blue screens? what The year is just beginning, the region is heavily incurring debts, but debts have to be paid, but we cannot complete the construction of the cosmodrome, but they don’t know what to do with the last one, after the flood of 2013 the construction has calmed down, there is no money .. ... hiMore about the elections, just count, out of 100 voters, 40 (40 percent!) Came, of which 1–20 were for the candidate, the rest were divided between the three candidates. What we have is 50 percent for the number 1 candidate, FIFTY PERCENT, Karl, but this is 20 percent of a hundred, so think about whose interests candidate No. 1 represents and how failure to appear contributes to his advancement in power!
      1. +1
        28 January 2016 11: 09
        More about the elections, just count - out of 100 voters, 40 came (40 percent!),


        In fact, the percentage of those who voted is slightly higher, there is simply such a technology of spoiling bulletins to get the desired result for the candidate, which was lowered from above.
        1. +1
          28 January 2016 14: 12
          Judging by the minuses, for some I apparently discovered a state secret? Naive, do you really believe in fair elections?
      2. +5
        28 January 2016 16: 09
        There was once a point in the ballot "against all" then it would make sense to go to the polls now NO! Having an admin resource before the elections, only "correct" people are allowed, weed out those who are unpleasant at the early stages from those who have a million admin resources! And the abolition of "against all" in general turned the elections into a profanation! then the people could out of spite twice vote against the "correct" and all candidates are closed to them! So they removed it so that there was less hemorrhage ..
        RS: In general, I consider the elections to be a vain hypocritical affair absolutely not necessary, for they have chosen .. and then the author broadcasts they themselves have chosen! yeah .. yourself .. Let our biggest boss (he has real power) appoint his neighbors himself, and they vertically follow .. And you can always see who put this thief and idiot? Not some kind of abstract people, but Ivan Ivanovitch ... so let him be responsible for this action .. otherwise they had a good power, but no responsibility!
    2. 0
      28 January 2016 17: 45
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      In fact, everything is true, but poking readers in the face in their own g .... - is not good.

      Call everyone and poke everyone Yes Like - I’m done well alone, but you sons profiled the country, and you are in demand.
  4. +5
    28 January 2016 10: 34
    Putin is the president, so he is responsible for all the failures. Direct. He recruited a team of officials, he chose a strategy. It was he, and not VO forum users or Uncle Vasya from a neighboring entrance.

    Attempts to blame responsibility for the failures of the last 16 years on Lenin, the State Department and the Martians are absurd, absurd and only make the people angry.
    1. +1
      28 January 2016 10: 37
      Like Putin himself sits and tackle everything and everyone? What then does the government do? And this whole fraternity called the Duma? So what for all to blame, there are many idiots everywhere.
      1. +12
        28 January 2016 10: 42
        Personally, he should not be taxed. But he must recruit people who, in turn, will recruit people - and so on - who must taxi out at a particular site.

        Putin scored those who overwhelmed everything: Ukraine, the economy, science, everything. But at the same time only the boyars are bad ...
        1. +6
          28 January 2016 10: 50
          Quote: Kibalchish
          . But he must recruit people who in turn will recruit people -

          You have a strange logic, he must recruit people who will recruit people, who will still recruit people, and so on, and all will be happy. hi
          1. +7
            28 January 2016 10: 52
            Quote: vovanpain

            You have a strange logic, he must recruit people who will recruit people who will still recruit people and so on and there will be all happiness.


            Confusedly wrote yes - but in general the meaning is this.
        2. +1
          28 January 2016 10: 59
          Quote: Kibalchish
          Putin scored those who overwhelmed everything: Ukraine, ....

          about Ukraine - more in detail what
        3. +11
          28 January 2016 11: 33
          yeah, like the tsar in 1905, the poor man didn’t know anything, so people went to complain to him and he shot them. People at least don’t tell me that Putin should respond to the failures of the ministers and not block them, why is he needed then? commander in chief?
        4. 0
          29 January 2016 11: 00
          Quote: Kibalchish
          Personally, he should not be taxed. But he must recruit people who, in turn, will recruit people - and so on - who must taxi out at a particular site.

          Power is a flow of money. It is difficult to "recruit" people in power. "Elite" has been and will be at all times. And you can't pick up people from the street - if you please choose from what is nearby. And if the "elite" is not satisfied with your choice, then you can part with the chair and life. Maneuver, maneuver, but don’t get out. So the president is twisting his tails, but apparently so far he cannot be stronger. Another option is a variant of the Stalinist maintenance of order. But here it is for sure - the wood is chopped, the chips will fly. And the chips will be bloody and innocent will get to the full. This is what the operation requires, healthy tissues also suffer.
          Would you put things in order if you became president? You would say menacingly to the LADY and Chubais - "Oh, you devils! Yes, I will take you to Siberia!"
          Or they will look at you with a grin and say, "they will" fit in "for us, but for you?"
      2. Hon
        +10
        28 January 2016 10: 54
        Quote: Wedmak
        Like Putin himself sits and tackle everything and everyone?

        he would at least steer
      3. -4
        28 January 2016 11: 07
        Putin, probably, also raises the price of gasoline himself, and he personally dictates the price of the products to each store ... And the owners of gas stations and shops, well, absolutely nothing to do with it, they probably starve themselves)))
        1. +5
          28 January 2016 11: 38
          and what do you think, why gasoline is cheap in the usa, but because there are laws protecting consumers, and prices will not jump 100%, otherwise you’ll fly out of the market, because they have a bunch of inspectors who are observing business and even residents and tenants, can we also take an example from them? Or do we have a different path? As they say, through thorns to the stars? Look at their rate of the central bank, they understand that cheap credits are a development, give us such and the economy will rise, money will increase -goods-money, everywhere they understand it, but ours are either pretending or really fools, they have not departed from speculation
          1. +9
            28 January 2016 12: 50
            Quote: dzeredzavkomimu
            and what do you think, why gasoline is cheap in the usa, but because there are laws protecting consumers, and prices will not jump 100%, otherwise you’ll fly out of the market, because they have a bunch of inspectors who are observing business and even residents and landlords, can we also take an example from them?

            All this is called in one word. control... As soon as we talk about state control over someone, a wild howl, diligently "fanned" by the media, begins. Business shouts that the state presses, does not allow to work, to present statistics on capital outflow. Conversations reach the point that communism is returning. Immediately, foreign parliaments and departments begin to show concern. And then everything / everything calms down, talk about control stops, moratoriums on business checks are introduced - everyone is happy. And the dissatisfied are themselves to blame, because "the authorities themselves chose."
        2. Boos
          +2
          28 January 2016 11: 48
          No, of course not Putin, Lenin gets up from the Mausoleum at night and walks, raises the price tags ... Your Putin’s icon blew up, why are there such cries about the people’s not being fair to him?
          Quote: Lesovik
          Putin, probably, also raises the price of gasoline himself, and he personally dictates the price of the products to each store ... And the owners of gas stations and shops, well, absolutely nothing to do with it, they probably starve themselves)))
          1. 0
            28 January 2016 12: 35
            why such cries about not justice of the people to him?


            Because we BELIEVE him!
            But I don’t have icons with Putin))) I trust him as a person)))
    2. +1
      28 January 2016 11: 05
      He just got a little late with these explanations.
      About twenty years.
      After all, everything was clear to me, his peer, but he didn’t! Why?
      It was just tiptop.
      That was not necessary.
  5. +10
    28 January 2016 10: 34
    Rzhaka, not an article!
    I read everything and concluded for myself: "How many more such shit will come out in the near future!" Although...
    With this author's name - Skomorokhov, he justifies it 100% !!!)))))))
    1. KOH
      -3
      28 January 2016 11: 05
      For dollars, the straight howling of marshals and generals ...)))) Intoesno it even groans when the dollar becomes 100, will the whiners hang themselves? ...)))))
    2. +3
      28 January 2016 11: 08
      Do not get personal.
      The author is in many ways right.
      But the goal of the article, as it seemed to me, is not to face us in our own city ... but to make us more responsible towards the person we choose.
      And they whined less and thought more "in front".
      And then in hindsight, everyone is strong.
    3. +7
      28 January 2016 11: 44
      Mihalich17 .... I read it all and made a conclusion for myself: "How many more such shit will come out in the near future!" ...

      The closer to the elections, the greater the flow of "criticism" not only from abroad, but also from within. We have already gone through this. There are a lot of critics, and creators, one or two, and got it. Casting a vote is not a problem, the problem is in a short list of worthy ones.
      The author had to be frank to the end and publish his list of "rescuers of Russia." Although this list is not new: Kasyanov, Navalny, Ryzhkov,
      Kasparov, Nadezhdin, Khodorkovsky, Kudrin, Gref .....
      These are all political corpses. The lessons of the 90s, and a fresh "Ukrainian democracy" have already been deposited in the genes of Russians. Russians cannot be driven into a rake without weapons.
  6. +22
    28 January 2016 10: 35
    Here, what, what, and the tendency to whine I have lost in the days of the USSR. To grumble, yes, I can and can. Maybe just because I didn't feel "dollar up, barrel down"! I did not feel it! Yes, groceries and some consumer goods have risen a little, but gasoline has dropped a little in price. Let it be a penny, but nice. And, whine, well, what an example for my children and grandchildren?! And, whining under the covers, there is no point: whining, in my opinion it is necessary in public and with a tear, otherwise what is the use ?! So he grumbled and felt better ...
  7. +3
    28 January 2016 10: 39
    If in short, when you go to vote, think. I do not like Ulyukaev, so do not vote for the current deputies and the current president. If you leave deputies or the president. then again there will be Ulyukaev or someone similar to him, but with a different surname.
  8. 0
    28 January 2016 10: 41
    Strange, the author had more adequate articles and the analysis was kind of good. And here in the style of "take it out and put it down, I want it so much." Only cats will be born quickly.j And if there is any trust in the leader, it should not be thrown away at every whim or in the mood
  9. -6
    28 January 2016 10: 41
    Second-rate author Ch.M.O. the article shows that the first crybaby is just the same! The situation that is happening now does not depend on Crimea or Syria, this situation has been brewing since the 90s. Only our enemies relaxed and decided that we would fall apart on our own. And now realizing that this will not happen, they are tripled to put down their country. The author of the campaign is very Glad to be lowered. The author look around the world now all sausages and this is because of = Syria and Crimea ????
    1. +13
      28 January 2016 10: 55
      Quote: Andrey Draganov
      Second-rate author Ch.M.O. the article shows that the first crybaby is just the same!

      And you better take a look at yourself, for which the author calls on everyone. hi
    2. +6
      28 January 2016 11: 11
      I completely agree. If they returned Crimea, they would demand to cut the army in half, reduce it, demand to place their military bases on our territory ... they will press and put forward demands until they complete what they have not completed. in the 90s. Either they will ruin us, or they themselves will fall apart. There will be no "peace, friendship, chewing gum".
  10. +8
    28 January 2016 10: 42
    As it was in the USSR when they chose according to their deserts, and not if possible, to pay for the campaign. Then it will be better.

    Do not tell my slippers. In the USSR, the elections were a complete fiction. How old are you, Roman? Did you go to the polls in those days? Now it’s kind of shitier and there is a choice, but for the most part, the same eggs are current in profile. Yes, everything has risen in price but not critical for someone who wants to live a normal life. I have the honor hi


    Wedmak (1) RU  Today, 10:32 New


    Salary in rubles, purchases for rubles, food in stores is, clothes are. I don’t care what the dollar exchange rate is, I see them once a year and then on TV. And to assess the standard of living at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the price of oil is generally stupid.

    I agree to all 1000%.
  11. +23
    28 January 2016 10: 43
    Dear author, did you sit in the election committee, didn’t see the lawlessness? Yes, the people before United Russia, as it were, to put it mildly, but I won’t be better, they will be banned. If you again enter the graph against all, then those in power will be greatly surprised by popular love.
    1. +8
      28 January 2016 12: 40
      It was not for nothing that under Putin the column "AGAINST ALL" was removed from the ballot papers ...
      Democracy, tudyt her to the swing ....
  12. +7
    28 January 2016 10: 43
    And then on the same couch we lie and ache, they say how bad everything is. And we are looking for the guilty. And, which is the coolest, we find. Putin's I applaud.


    Do not stand feet ROMAN or something got up today what
    I decided to press the sofa category of people ....
    smile ... by pressing further what?

    People will always whine, cry, suffer and curse ...
    Is there an object of criticism? ...there is.
    The form of criticism is chosen depending on the character of the person .... ROMAN will never be able to redo this.
    Well, in general, with a cold mind, you need to relate to the emotions of people ... calmly, without noise and dust.
    And we can achieve a single opinion only by lying in orderly rows in the cemetery.
    smile As a joke, I propose introducing into NVO subsections for violent, especially violent, couch warriors, specialists and people who do not care.
  13. -3
    28 January 2016 10: 45
    According to the content of the article, I agree with the author. Many began to break. Correctly poked, with a file on an oak table. If you’re going to the barrage tank, then don’t turn off and don’t.
    1. +6
      28 January 2016 13: 06
      Dad, you're wrong!
      The author simply acted as a helpful scribbler!
      In childhood, such "correct boys" who were gearing up to older and stronger ones simply arranged the "dark" one!
      One thing infuriates - how can you indiscriminately accuse the whole people of "inaction" - they say you, idiots, are not voting for those!
      The Tsar and the boyars are good, and you rabble are stupid and lazy, and therefore "serve you right" ... this is the main message of his writings!

      Ugh, disgusting ...
  14. +5
    28 January 2016 10: 45
    A masochist or something? Do you like how you are dipped in the city, but go to work as an asinizer. They predicted a fall in oil prices when they did, they would catch up to 100 dollars and collapse again. They said about this last jump / fall. Vali from the resource .
  15. +3
    28 January 2016 10: 45
    In short, the essence of the article is, as always, the same "Now, if they voted for Navalny, everyone would wear white trousers!"
  16. +4
    28 January 2016 10: 46
    "Obviously, something needs to be changed. What, dear patriots, is it time for Maidan? Or for Bolotnaya?" Go through the forest with calls like this
    1. +1
      28 January 2016 11: 33
      Maybe it makes sense at first to think well about what you read, and then send it to addresses.
  17. +2
    28 January 2016 10: 47
    "It all depends on me" (serf blacksmith from the movie / "Formula of Love").
  18. +15
    28 January 2016 10: 47
    And choose not with your wallet, but with your head.
    He always voted his head and always went to the polls. Only my voice disappeared in the unknown. But out of harm, I will go and vote!
    And it is a pity that there is no column "AGAINST ALL"! hi
  19. 0
    28 January 2016 10: 47
    yes let it bring down from the country to Europe, it’s better there to cry here, go abroad and enjoy life there together with the migrants and mom Merkel
  20. -3
    28 January 2016 10: 50
    High-quality muck. And decorated with taste. And the facts are given, you can’t argue. But, most importantly, why this provocation was written, two words: Putin is to blame.
  21. +3
    28 January 2016 10: 52
    Maybe rude, but on the topic! good Every citizen is responsible for the country, this is different from a resident, it does not matter in the elections, at work, in raising children - remember about the Motherland!
    Sorry for the pathos ... feel
    (personally, the last elections in 5t.r. cost me a fine for speeding, I was in a hurry to work from the hut, so I don’t know who and how they paid for the votes smile )
    1. +4
      28 January 2016 12: 12
      17 times I was in the commission, so for your haste I would have written a fine in triple the amount for naivety:) - good luck
      1. -1
        28 January 2016 14: 04
        Quote: Leshy74
        17 times I was in the commission, so for your haste I would have written a fine in triple the amount for naivety:) - good luck

        If you were in the commission, then, probably, the fake protocols were signed? Yes, you, it turns out, are ready for a crime for a day off! Of course, Putin is also to blame for this?
        wink
  22. +17
    28 January 2016 10: 52
    I wanted to give a damn about your dollar, I don’t have them.
    Regarding criticism of the government, the author is absolutely wrong, criticism on the contrary says that people wake up and give an assessment of the reality surrounding them.
    And they support the president not for beautiful eyes, but for giving the opportunity to be proud of their country, and for the Crimea, and for Syria, and for the Armed Forces, and for howling in the west, looking like they seemingly before their eyes - killed, drunken, crumbling Russia is getting back on its feet, launching "Caliber", building "Armata", "Bastions" from which different "cookies" run without looking back. And here's a horseradish from a tubercle, would you like?
    So do not whine, there will be a holiday on our street.
  23. +9
    28 January 2016 10: 52
    The novel decided to cause a heated discussion)))
    He grabbed everyone under one comb: and cheers of patriots and patriots, and even Patriots, by whom
    he actually considers himself - a Patriot with the letter P.
    It turned out maliciously.
    For the thinker with his head, whom Roman considers himself to be, it should be clear that 90% of the mass of the population is inert, because they cannot all be commanders and leaders, here comes the lord - the lord will always judge this is the majority position, therefore the lord is to blame when life is getting worse. Well, if you Roman decided to poke his nose with the people in his weakness, and cause in his soul shame and determination to be different from the moment you read your opus, then your impulse is noble, but I hope it will remain without a response. Since it’s better to let the people sit on the couch, raise children, suck the news on the Internet, drink beer - in general, they live peacefully because waking up and displeased people are scary, and no leader can cope with this element.
    Revolutions, as you know, never grew out of the people, the people were patient, all coups were thirsty for power and ordinary people playing in weak places, hungry for power or glory, indulging in their pride. Everyone remembers how many good deeds you did when you traveled to New Russia, and you did it with the help of VO readers, but this does not give you the right to judge, for you are not God. Good deeds are done in silence, and not for glory and pride, but for God.
    Sorry if offended by anything.
  24. +5
    28 January 2016 10: 54
    I did not vote for Yeltsin, and neither did Medvedev. Yes, for Putin, and if there are elections tomorrow, I will vote for him again. Well, I don’t see a single candidate or person of Stalin level in our country. Maybe somewhere there, in the shade, but so far there is no alternative to GDP.
  25. -1
    28 January 2016 10: 54
    Quote: BRUTAL
    That's what, what, and I lost the penchant for whining back in the days of the USSR. Grumble, yes, I can and can.

    The same "trick" and me, comrade!
    "Smear the snot" is useless!
  26. 0
    28 January 2016 10: 54
    An oil painting: a part of our absolutely inert and very corrupt electorate whines that the deputies she chose and the ministers appointed by the deputies are swindlers and muddle.

    Here neither diminish nor add.
  27. -2
    28 January 2016 10: 54
    Crap. In my attitude to GDP, nothing has changed. I still approve of what I do. I still support
  28. +6
    28 January 2016 10: 55
    Enough of bullshit about oil to drive. Oil was cheaper not so long ago, but it did not affect the dollar. Take at least the 2008 crisis. This is a question for Naebulina.
    Tales about the oil needle and allow you to twirl the ruble, as you like.
    It is necessary to work, not to grind the tongue. And those voting about what and how to do it are an order of magnitude more than those who really work hard.
    Meet the author of the article, give him a bribe.
    1. +1
      28 January 2016 12: 13
      Quote: sir_obs
      Meet the author of the article, give him a bribe.

      So he already seems to be a bribe taker. Or do you mean something else. Then I agree.
  29. +4
    28 January 2016 10: 56
    And then, when every citizen (by concepts, not by passport) will treat his civil duties as workers.


    Oh, I beg you, most of the citizens treat their work duties with the same disdain. This world is ruled by Pofig. For what they didn’t bother - then don’t care. It doesn’t care, it don’t care, it doesn’t matter. And where does the rest of the ambition come from and the desire to do at least something when he is immediately told - "but you don't care?" You have to work for yourself, and not look at your neighbor's payroll. and to work well, because it is bad - it always works by itself. And from such citizens who, if only to lie on the stove and chew rolls, who do not read, and form their opinion on the basis of information received in the smoking room, a majority is formed who will not do anything, but that there is nothing done blame Putin.
  30. +5
    28 January 2016 10: 57
    The main news in the morning is the dollar and euro, the cost of a barrel of oil. Ask any schoolchild or old man, everyone knows the approximate or exact cost.
    I support Putin’s foreign policy, but inside the country there’s a complete mess in everything except the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs
  31. +2
    28 January 2016 10: 57
    I don’t understand the author escaped from a psychiatric hospital, or slipped on ice and hit his head?
    1. +1
      28 January 2016 11: 08
      Ebundey Mukhryuev
      Oh well laughing
  32. +1
    28 January 2016 10: 58
    I do not quite agree with the author. VV is not a god and does not distribute manna, but he built up a political system for himself. The good thing is that he is a living politician and reacts to the masses.
  33. +2
    28 January 2016 10: 58
    Where did the "urya" go — we closed our mouths and plowed, and the buffoons from not fucking making articles write and shit into the soul. Well, nothing, it wipes off with a piece of paper, and then we will return "ICE KRIM" to ourselves in the near future, to the evil of all the dumbbells
  34. +2
    28 January 2016 10: 58
    As it was in the USSR when they chose according to their deserts, and not if possible, to pay for the campaign. Then it will be better.


    Was it, like, a sweetener at the end? So that they do not throw an article with minuses? .. Again, Putin is to blame for everything ... But the author did not forget how they lived in the 90s? So would compare, as then and how now ... Or the author compares with zero? So then again Putin was ... Or do we live in a fairy tale that the Akhalai-Mahalai whispered and everything worked out right away? .. It doesn’t happen like that.
    In the 90s, Crimea is not ours, and take whatever freedom you want, and any wish of our Western partners was fulfilled by a run - and what, did you live very well? For example, I do not. And the salary, for example, on time only at zero began to pay ...

    And personally, I don’t know anyone who would be paid for voting, I really don’t know ...
  35. +4
    28 January 2016 10: 58
    Us sleeves higher
    Yes belts tighter
    We stand with you, bro
    It was worse.
    1. +1
      28 January 2016 11: 10
      Of course, we will not get used to it ...
  36. +3
    28 January 2016 10: 58
    And what is not written correctly in the article? Where does such a VAL of minuses come from? At the moment, only 6 (six comments) and the rating of the article in the "minuses" -17 / 9 +. Did they come running from the "censor"? There is a country in the west of Russia with a "zhovto-blakitny ensign", in which kaklyatskaya truth rules the ball, they say "my house is on the edge", that's where the situation is even worse, with criminals in the "Rada". If the hunchback-marked with Elson the alkanaut have brought our country (again with our connivance) to its current position, then except us it will not direct it on the right path, only we are all together and each in our place. A kind, or rather kind-hearted tsar never existed, and the boyars were not always happy for their pockets ... Remember the Drama of Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin "Boris Godunov" the last words of the text "The people are silent". Then there were False Dmitry, Shuisky, the seven-boyars, the Polish invaders in the Kremlin, in short, SMUTA and GIL. Because the PEOPLE SILENT!
    1. +8
      28 January 2016 11: 10
      And here I am evaluating an article by ROMAN as a psychologist-psychiatrist who evaluates a patient.
      If on the shelves lay out the outline of the article ..
      introduction
      content,
      focus
      ending
      skillfully docked stimuli,
      skillfully used factual material.

      Superbly ROMAN started the people ... everyone rushed to the embrasures and under the tracks of the tank ....
      in my memory this is the second such article by ROMAN.
      Respect ROMAN ... hi you are capable of many things.
      1. +5
        28 January 2016 11: 21
        Sleight of hand and not any fraud))) But the facts are such a thing ... You can simply keep silent about some facts, which the author did with brilliance. And the article, as a result, turned out to be resonant. The author is a connoisseur of his craft)
        You, by the way, plus)))
  37. +10
    28 January 2016 11: 01
    "What the electorate is, so is the government." Not true. For example, the second time we did not choose Yeltsin, but the results were rigged and it turned out to be Chubais and me and others like that. And Putin is to blame, he is the main manager, he must recruit professionals. And in the current composition of the government, apparently they are either not enough or not. But we have no claim for Syria and Crimea.
    1. +2
      28 January 2016 11: 20
      Quote: boris-1230
      And Putin is to blame, he is the chief manager, he must recruit professionals.

      Even Joseph Vissarionovich did not rule without errors. And in order to finally find professionals it took years of trial and error, as well as the hardest war. This is a wildly pressed time. What to say about Putin. He wants something, but he cannot, but he does not know something, because even the president cannot know everything. He is a man, not a god.
      1. +8
        28 January 2016 13: 09
        Quote: Alex_59
        Even Joseph Vissarionovich did not rule without errors. And in order to finally find professionals it took years of trial and error, as well as the hardest war. This is a wildly pressed time. What to say about Putin. He wants something, but he cannot, but he does not know something, because even the president cannot know everything. He is a man, not a god.

        I.V. Stalin led the country from 1929 to 1953 year. Those. about the same as Putin. During the years of Stalin's rule, the country turned from an agrarian into an industrial one and won the war. What have we really achieved under the current leadership?
        1. -3
          28 January 2016 13: 20
          Quote: zyablik.olga
          I.V. Stalin led the country from 1929 to 1953 year. Those. about the same as Putin. During the years of Stalin's rule, the country turned from an agrarian into an industrial one and won the war. What have we really achieved under the current leadership?

          Well, do you personally? at least not visited with a tour of Dallag - already good.
      2. +5
        28 January 2016 17: 34
        Putin has been in power for 15 years and he could figure it out
  38. +11
    28 January 2016 11: 02
    And with what fright did the respected Roman Skomorokhov decide that we are whining here? Both "KRYMNASH" and "VSIRIVSEKHPORVEM" have not gone anywhere. And if you need to tighten the belts, we will. And it is not the fault of the regulars of our site that certain characters sit in the Duma and the Government. We just voted with our heads, but unfortunately not only sober people go to the polls. What idiots do not appear at the polling stations, to whom nothing can be explained simply. DO NOT PERCEPT. A minus to the author.
    1. 0
      28 January 2016 12: 23
      I agree with you.
      But, the author is a plus. With brute force, but thoughts in the subject. And if there is a question - do not turn away, as if it weren’t. Turn away - and he stayed ...
  39. +1
    28 January 2016 11: 03
    An article about painful, but I do not like the use of the words "zrada", "zradniki", "ganba" ... somehow not in our opinion. No.
  40. +5
    28 January 2016 11: 03
    Well, let's see. I personally have already formed an opinion .. that if less than half comes to the polls in the fall .. and they still vote for edrosov .. that there will be no future for the country.
  41. PVM
    +1
    28 January 2016 11: 04
    The question is a little off topic.
    Why the ruble is tied to the price of oil, and not to all natural
    Russian resources. Why the yuan suffered, China does not export oil.
    The answer is the "fun" of the powerful. Russia, like many others, is forced to play these "fun".
  42. 0
    28 January 2016 11: 05
    Whatever our ministers do now, they will not succeed in securing the ruble. There are reasons for this, they are called differently, some conspiracy, others conspiracy and so on. For those who have started all this, one task is to make our life unbearable (according to their vision, but we should do our best ...) and blame Putin and his team for everything. They have it like a bone in the throat. Whoever was friends and friends with all these poking around with the Dolar rate is like a boring mosquito, but who at one time decided to be the most cunning and got currency loans now prays that foreign policy will change and we will be forgiven. Even if it changes, they will still finish us off, and they will do a control shot in the head. So that all these whiners are naive and all the opposition there let them pack their bags, the borders are open.
    1. +7
      28 January 2016 11: 57
      I think the point is that they ruin people, devalue enterprises. Look, under the pretext of saving the economy, our thieves' government proposed to sell shares of enterprises owned by the state, naturally at minimal prices. Better yet, go bankrupt and then sell, to your loved ones. Considering the positions of the agents of the State Department Nabiulina, Medvedev, etc. all this will pass with a bang. They introduced a tax on all residents of the country in favor of Rotenberg Jr., calling him "Plato"
  43. +6
    28 January 2016 11: 05
    Putin alone doesn’t decide anything; he is simply not able to do it. And when each bastard strives to steal from the state-va ....
    I dream of surviving to the collapse of the dollar, not because I don’t like Americans, but to look at the faces of the thief of officials who profit from the fall of the ruble and thereby aggravate the situation. It will be fun to look at the owners of millions of green pieces of paper.
    1. -1
      28 January 2016 12: 14
      America, love or not love, Great country. Safety margin of 200 years))) they need to learn)))
  44. +5
    28 January 2016 11: 08
    I wish Russia rapid economic growth. smile And I wish myself rapid economic growth. That would flood me with a stream of material abundance and excess. smile
  45. +9
    28 January 2016 11: 10
    For an article of good quality such a minus to the author !!!
    There is such a way of communication between bosses and subordinates from an anecdote about the circus. When the cannon fires at the excrement barrel. The barrel scatters and stains everyone. Everything is "good" and then I go out, all in white!
    Here we are all in the shit .., oh in "good" and then he came out, all in white.
    Personally, I've never voted for Edrosov in my life! The same as before for "Our Home Russia". But I go to the polls precisely because my ballot paper is not used against me during the counting of votes, when polling stations are closed and what is happening there, only God knows. Observers from the opposition are not always left there.
    I am sure that most of the participants on this site are the same as me. And the author of all from one barrel!
    Besides, I'm far from happy with what Putin is doing. Everyone understands that Medvedev, as prime minister, is a zero leader. But he keeps it! Stubbornly and persistently! What the "educational" minister is doing is not criticized except perhaps by children who cannot speak. But they keep him too. Apparently they are waiting for education to collapse irreversibly!
    And there are many such incomprehensible actions by the president. This is where perhaps I am to blame! I chose him. But I think that no one is better than him. Not Zyuganov is with Zhirinovsky.
    1. +1
      28 January 2016 12: 23
      Quote: indifferent
      But I think that no one is better than him. Not Zyuganov is with Zhirinovsky.

      Exactly!!! A critical and wise approach.
  46. 0
    28 January 2016 11: 11
    And I do not agree with the author, because since 1991 I do not go to the polls and I do not advise others, like Preobrazhensky, "not to read Soviet newspapers before dinner! It's not about the barrels and the ruble-dollar pair, but about the social responsibility of the state to its pensioners - every month to pay pensions and benefits to 40 million (!) War and labor veterans, disabled people and orphans! Such an unreasonably high ruble exchange rate is precisely due to this - monthly payments of 600 - 700 billion rubles of budgetary rubles of pensions. For example, the rate is 25 rubles per dollar, the price of a barrel is 100 dollars or 2500 rubles. means. to get 10 billion rubles to the budget. need to sell 4 million barrels of oil. and for 700-280 million oil. now a barrel costs 30 dollars - we divide 700 by 280 and by 30. we get the current exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar! I hope that this arithmetic lesson was useful to you, dear "experts" - because every gopher is an agronomist, every rabbit (Egg scent) is a commander? But that's why Ukrainians in opium are adjusting their hryvnia for us? Apparently they are afraid that through the low exchange rate of the hryvnia - the ruble, their dollars will flow like a river from Kiev to Moscow, and instead of the market, the laws of the Odessa policeman or Privoz will operate! Oh - la - la? And what does Putin have to do with it?
  47. -1
    28 January 2016 11: 12
    not everything, or you can say nothing is determined by elections, so the author is not right here. Yes, and you have to choose the best of the worst, this is not an election, it’s profonation.
  48. +2
    28 January 2016 11: 13
    What a pack is such a leader.
  49. +3
    28 January 2016 11: 14
    The author probably scored foreign currency loans, as the article looks like a cry from the heart.
  50. +6
    28 January 2016 11: 14
    The gentlemen of the extreme have started to look! I think that Putin is in his place. And many factors do not depend on his activity. At least he did not bend under the pressure of the West, and even put many in their place! And the economic situation now in many states is no better. In China, the recession, in Europe, prices rose for many goods, unemployment in the EU reached record levels. It is always easier to blame anyone, including "careless" voters. I voted for Putin not for money or points, and most of my friends, too! And I believe that at the current stage of development there is no other person who would keep the country intact and did not merge it into the West. It is impossible to be good for everyone and will never be in power of a person who absolutely suits everyone!
  51. +6
    28 January 2016 11: 16
    People, you forgot. We, in Russia, had and still have a Byzantine style of governing the country. The king (emperor, general secretary, president, it doesn’t matter) is always right. If he is wrong, see point one. I would like to remind you from history... When Nicholas 2 did not like the work of the government. thoughts - he dissolved them. When ЁБН did not like the work of the state. thoughts - he shot her. And what do you want from the St. Petersburg gopnik from the Tambov organized crime group? He has the mentality of the environment where he grew up. Where do the expressions “to soak in the toilet”, “to hit first” come from? Did you pick it up at Leningrad State University? You need to be more careful in the elections, use the rest of your brain if possible.
  52. +5
    28 January 2016 11: 17
    Quote: FDA
    The answer is the "fun" of the powerful. Russia, like many others, is forced to play these "fun".

    Complete nonsense. If lovers of capitalism from the 90s had not begun to destroy our country, but raised it, then they would have put money on all these “games”. We used to feed the WHOLE world, but now what? NOTHING!
    In our country it’s even stupid that in order to deliver milk to you in stores, they are packaged in NOT our packaging, but in IMPORTED ones! That is, if packaging manufacturers refuse to supply/produce them to us (here), then you won’t drink milk. Seeds, the eggs from which chickens hatch to produce eggs that you are already eating - all from over the hill! Is it really impossible for us to do this? So why not be so happy and zealously defend our super-duper excellent government!
    It's still just little things. But the fact that all kinds of support for our entrepreneur were promised - where is it? That's all, populism and nothing practical. Everyone, motherfucker, is waiting for some kind of investment... From enemies! Investment! It's funny, oh my god...
  53. +1
    28 January 2016 11: 23
    I re-read it twice and still don’t understand what Roman wanted to say with his article?
    Have WE ever had a good time for at least half an hour?
    We already have stones instead of tears, who even whines?
    Yes, my head hurts from drinking too much and it’s Putin’s fault, of course)))))
  54. +3
    28 January 2016 11: 23
    The author is inadequate! You can’t judge everyone by yourself. The smart ones understood that in the Ukrainian crisis in Washington they decided to finish us off. And thank God that we are not yet at war for real. Therefore, after the annexation of Crimea, I personally expected pressure and not for one year. Even more! I am sure that what Kasparov voiced is in the minds of our Western friends. So, no concessions will save us. And we don’t need it. The tandem of the government and the president, in my opinion, are acting quite adequately. I think no one can do better in this situation. There is still room for maneuver in the direction of increasing restrictions in the economy. But this is an extreme case. We must not forget that restrictions imposed by one side cause restrictions on the other. And only because we have not closed ourselves down and are trying with all our might to stay within the framework of global markets causes the fact that many of our opponents are also having a hard time with these sanctions. And everything else is husk. Where are there fair elections in the world? Where is there no corruption? Yes with this must be fought. But it is impossible to get rid of it.
  55. +1
    28 January 2016 11: 23
    The author needs to read the Constitution of the Russian Federation so that he clearly understands the role of the president and example minister in the country. But to say that Putin is to blame doesn’t require much intelligence, there is no need for it at all.
    1. +1
      28 January 2016 13: 13
      Quote: Engineer
      The author needs to read the Constitution of the Russian Federation so that he clearly understands the role of the president and example minister in the country. And to say that Putin is to blame You don’t need a lot of intelligence, you don’t need it at all.

      And you need to read the article to the end. The author blames us more for our amorphousness, short-sightedness and venality. The authorities use this accordingly.
  56. +2
    28 January 2016 11: 26
    Well, dear readers, the ruble and the barrel are down, the dollar is up, and the number of shouts of “hurray!” also went down sharply.
    Hey, patriots... I can’t help but remember how happy “Crimea is ours” and “We’ll destroy everything in Syria” were. Touchingly joyful and uniform.
    Dear author! Why are you so! Saint with condescension towards us mortals... Throw your mentoring statements and philosophical attempts back through the excretory system, which the LSBT community loves so much. Don't lump everyone together and you will be respected...
    1. +1
      28 January 2016 12: 27
      Quote: edeligor
      Saint with condescension towards us mortals...

      Well, he started the article very maliciously. Further, everything is already clear.
  57. +3
    28 January 2016 11: 26
    The article is complete nonsense! Verbal diarrhea of ​​some weakling. The author greatly exaggerates the negative, clearly rejoicing at the problems that have arisen in the country, as proof of his own “rightness,” previously unappreciated by those around him. Having listed the problems in the state, known to everyone for a long time, he hit the mark, hoping to make an impression, imagining himself to be a brilliant seer. Ignoring the fact that Putin is not an autocrat, and there are no simple solutions in his work. His last name is not Yatsenyuk, etc. But about the State Duma and the hedgehog, everything has been clear for a long time. Personally, I see a way to fight this evil, I mean the State Duma, by boycotting parliamentary elections. The institution of elections in our country has outlived its usefulness, having been a freak from birth.
    1. -2
      28 January 2016 16: 39
      Can you provide specific examples of the ineffective work of the Duma? Maybe there are some laws you don’t like?
      And let's see what the Kremlin has to do with them. Who signs them? What prevents you from choosing worthy people to the Duma? Vote for the party in power. For the party that Putin supports?
      1. +2
        28 January 2016 18: 13
        What specific examples do you need? The situation in the country is not a specific example? And the party in power, which Medvedev heads? In which all known ghouls are members?
        1. -1
          29 January 2016 10: 43
          In your opinion, is the Duma to blame for the situation in the country?
          That is, our Duma is responsible for the economy?
          And then EP received more than 80% of the votes. Our citizens. Respect their opinion.
          1. +1
            29 January 2016 16: 03
            It would be wrong to appoint an extreme person for the general situation in the country. The whole system is slipping. The Duma passes laws, sometimes quite controversial, or even simply absurd. He approves of the initiatives of our prime minister, such as, for example, the transfer of time back and forth, the police to the police, they are seriously discussing the issue of juvenile justice at the instigation of Medvedev, the creation of Skolkovo as a structure accumulating all the money for science also went like clockwork, Rosnanotech and Ryzhiy are also a fruit activities of this body, an increase in the price of alcohol, which is explained by the fight against palenka, with the cost of homemade rectified alcohol being 15-18₽/l. , generally the nonsense of a madman. They treat us like idiots, and that's what infuriates us the most. It would take a long time to list all the absurdities in the actions of the people’s elected representatives, but why? All this is obvious; anyone with eyes will see it. Looking at the work of the State Apparatus, one gets the impression that this is just an imitation of public functions, reduced to patching up holes, and at the expense of the population, and not effective solutions. An example of the latest: oil revenues have fallen, the budget has sank, the Central Bank is devaluing the ruble in order to increase the ruble supply, and our elected representatives declare that all budget obligations will be fulfilled, with the air of winners, and the fact that the ruble is turning into garbage is not particularly discussed. Regarding United Russia in the elections: people supported Putin personally by voting for United Russia, and there was little choice. They chose between Reds and Whites, between statists, nominals, and outright compradors. They chose “our own”, and this does not mean that their own do not need cleaning. We have been placed in such conditions, and there is no way out of this circle if we play by these rules. I mean elections. In short, here it is. And I ask you, my dear, in the future not to ask provocative questions about things that are obvious to everyone except you, I will not answer.
            Thank you.
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  58. +3
    28 January 2016 11: 29
    From love to hate one step. The author is right about this. And the elections... EBN was taught by those who are now singing especially pitifully about fair elections. When candidates are nominated by work collectives, as a rule, it is on the basis of business qualities tested in this collective. And when they impudently nominate themselves, and even buy up votes, or co-opt accomplices in the “party” into the Duma, then, vote or vote, you will still get... an impudent know-it-all - a people's deputy, or, worse, an outright swindler. Such people should not be allowed within a shot of elected positions. A normal person cannot get through the gauntlet of those who want to help the republic with such an electoral system.
  59. +2
    28 January 2016 11: 31
    I caught myself thinking that it’s disgusting for me to even read this “truth teller” Roman Skomorokhov, let alone listen to him “everyone is lost, we died”... In my mind, the image of a small and dirty alcoholic peasant in a dirty cap, standing with a poster on the street, among the “liberals” who paid him for a one-time participation in an anti-Putin rally, whose only dream is: “I wish this rally would end soon so I can run for a bottle”...
    How many of these have already been and how many more there will be, who, for a small handout, but NOW, are ready to sell everything big that could be LATER...
    And as soon as it got a little harder, these “Caucasians” immediately climb onto their palm trees and begin to howl at the top of their voices, holding in their hand the banana given to them, for which they still have to work for...
    But to hell with you, Caucasians!!! Don't forget that for any evil monkey there is always a "man with a gun"!!! And then it will be too late to bite your elbows...
  60. 0
    28 January 2016 11: 32
    As one parrot everyone knew said: “Eh, Roma, Roma!” “...But since my personal level of education does not really allow me to assess the professional suitability of the same Nabiullina, and I judge solely by her statements on TV, then I personally have no options for a replacement...” Well, where can I get a replacement in our small country indispensable? As for GDP, the Constitution does not say about the exchange rate of the ruble, but the one who is popularly elected must a priori meet the aspirations of the people who elected him and promptly replace the idiots in the government with more adequate specialists. And further; the people really want the People's Chosen One to hear him. Nothing personal, as they say.
  61. 0
    28 January 2016 11: 32
    To have your own, you need to invest, but we have a problem with this, you’re not watching Channel 1, it’s better to listen to Russian business wink
    http://trinixy.ru/124578-predprinimatel-oleg-tinkov-ob-investiciyah-v-rossii.htm
    l
  62. +6
    28 January 2016 11: 33
    Who to vote for? Where is the party that stands for production and development? Read the programs of most parties - they basically say “take away and divide”, but then what? Basically, all the “carrots” are for pensioners and state employees, but in Russia there are many other taxpayers who also need support - you can’t endlessly “milk” them, you also need to “feed”. The author somehow easily transferred all the arrows to the forum, saying that you are not “crying”, it would be nice to look at him himself, but why did he make “Yaroslavna’s cry”? Maybe we should change the situation? If he is so talented, then when criticizing, make suggestions, but throwing feces is not at that level. Okay, Putin assembled a bad team, but who will assemble a good one instead of him? Obviously not the author of the article. When the Government was formed after the elections, I hoped that new people would come, but the CLAN came, and they are already ruling in a way that suits their interests, and all those who are dissatisfied can receive the label of “Maidanovite”
    1. +1
      28 January 2016 12: 15
      You don't need to vote for anyone. Of the ten candidates, ten are ghouls. Total non-appearance, disruption of the elections, a reason for the authorities to think about it.
  63. +2
    28 January 2016 11: 33
    Quote: Wedmak
    Is that really all? I don’t know what stores you are in, but in those where I go easily and naturally Russian goods are located. Moreover, foreign has become less.

    This is true, everything is correct, there should be more domestic products, the only question is the price.
    Only now it turns out that in many Russian goods there is a certain part of import left, as we are told. We somehow succeed in comparison with the West, where the state provides assistance to farmers and producers, and for some reason the majority of our population pays at “good prices”, apparently it’s convenient to shift all your costs onto our shoulders rather than strive to reduce them .
    Also, for example, some services have increased in cost, such as caller ID (landline telephone) or radio, etc. to the question in honor of what “holiday” the answer is that the dollar has increased, but this is how this affected the caller ID, despite the fact that the equipment remained the same, etc.
    Question: why have our Russian apples increased in price, etc. The same dollar has an influence on them, or as the wholesalers say, they are cheating.
  64. +2
    28 January 2016 11: 33
    We entered the WTO - now suck it..... There was no need to get involved in the global economy, it was GDP and LADIES............
  65. +3
    28 January 2016 11: 34
    Elected by popular vote. By you, dear readers. And me, yes.
    No, I didn’t choose. And none of my good friends and just acquaintances and strangers. It’s just necessary for United Russia to win. And who votes for what is not important. And in the next elections, like all my friends and little acquaintances, I will vote for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. And United Russia will win again.
  66. vmo
    +5
    28 January 2016 11: 37
    Roman Skomorokhov, who is this smart guy, how much was he paid and who? But it’s strange to talk about big things and do nothing except nasty things! Who decided that we are whining? "SMART GUYS".
  67. +7
    28 January 2016 11: 39
    The article gave me mixed feelings. If the authorship had not been Roman Skomorokhov, whose articles I read with pleasure earlier, and I give him due respect for his sober and adequate assessment of reality, then, honestly, I would not have read beyond the first two paragraphs. I dare to suggest that somewhere the author was hooked by the authorities with their affection. I observed a similar state of mind in one of my friends (a businessman), who, after revoking the license of the bank in which he kept a bank account, suddenly became a third-priority lender. Those. With a 3% probability he can forget about his money. The words and thoughts of him and the author of the article are almost identical. Well, if according to the text of the article, then:
    “how happy “Krymnash” was,” “smart people said that Crimea wouldn’t just be released to us” I may not fall into the category of “smart people,” but in my opinion you don’t have to be a genius to assume that such a tasty morsel like Crimea (because of it, this homosexuality actually began in Ukraine) taken away from under the noses of the n-s, will cause them an attack of epilepsy. Russia's actions in Syria also did not add calm and confidence to the n-sam. The whole world sees everything. And in general, any more or less significant successes of Russia have been and will be met with ardent opposition in the West. While we, during the time of Gorbaty and EBN, sat in our puddle evenly, traded resources and bought “Bush legs” with the proceeds, we all arranged.
    Karosh, karosh, russish Ivan. We started playing not according to the rules of the world hegemon - we got a goat's face from them. But no one said it would be easy.

    I agree with the author about elections (especially local elections). He himself has great doubts about their reliability. The inertia of the population in the election process is explained by the lack of results.
    How is S. Shnurov doing? "Elections, elections. Candidates-..."

    It’s difficult to say anything about the personnel issue in the government. I myself don’t understand and don’t accept much of what they do. But here He knows better. I think that He understands that people’s love is not eternal. From love to hate one step.

    I wrote a lot of letters. Sorry if I'm tired. Time will put everything in its place. Good luck, health and patience to all forum members. To the author of new creative successes and optimism.
  68. +2
    28 January 2016 11: 39
    ...These are like our chosen ones...
    The key expression here is “as if”...
    Anyone who has retained the ability to think and analyze, and simply see and hear, knows that the voices and opinions of people and the composition of the Duma are slightly different things. Therefore, it is not correct to blame “they chose it themselves.”
    PS Are there many difficulties? Yes. But immediately “paradise” happens to you know who, some people there, someone with Alla in a bar.
    Compare the level of our country with its level 15 or 20 or even 5 years ago.
    If you imagine, even for a moment, that a just patriot has come to power (“miraculously chosen”) and immediately begins to “restore order,” how long do you think he will live? That's right - very little. And there are plenty of examples from history.
    And as for “it’s their own fault” - yes, many people are now thinking not how to make their contribution, but how to take away more of these contributions. And this is at the level of consciousness of a huge number of people of different ages. And as long as this happens, there will only be collapse, because it will not be possible to build strong walls from bulk materials. As representatives of one Trans-Jordanian people once said about us: “none of us, in the sense of non-Trans-Jordanian ones, will sacrifice their interests for the sake of the interests of the whole people, but without hesitation, they will sacrifice the interests of the whole people for the sake of their own.”
    You need to change yourself first, and then talk about the authorities.
  69. VP
    +1
    28 January 2016 11: 39
    False start.
    Closer to the elections there will be a lot of such teachings “I’m not calling for anyone, but think about it” on voting.
  70. +1
    28 January 2016 11: 42
    At first I wanted to immediately put a minus, it looked like hysteria. However, the last paragraph regarding the deputies changed my mind. This is a sore subject - deputies. Far from it, they are mostly not popular, but even anti-national. The system and motivation of these “people's deputies” must be changed.
  71. +2
    28 January 2016 11: 44
    After the collapse of the USSR, the expressions “squeezing a slave out of myself drop by drop” and “I’m ashamed that I’m Russian” were often circulated. The Balts and buffoons like the author of the article especially loved to flaunt these expressions. But they remained slaves. They have always been slaves. And they will never squeeze out their slave psychology.
    They will forever remain slaves to the stomach, their base needs and other “bad excesses.”
    And everyone stands up for some kind of “freedom.” And everyone owes them something.
    Putin - should, Yeltsin was - should, Brezhnev - there’s nothing to talk about at all.
    And they whine and complain, “but they eat Russian lard.”
    You might think the whole world is in chocolate, we are the only ones sitting here in the shit. Each hut has its own rattles.
    And I would advise people like the author, if you want to make the world a better place, hang yourself!
  72. 0
    28 January 2016 11: 46
    And why go far, here they are selling out their products. How much did they sell for?
    Read it. http://www.kramola.info/vesti/protivostojanie/neft-zoloto-i-dollar-pobedit-li-ro
    ssiya-v-globalnoy-smertelnoy-game
  73. +1
    28 January 2016 11: 46
    I didn’t understand from the article what the author wants from us? Here's what it calls for (in my opinion):
    1-go to Red Square (or anywhere else) and start organizing a revolution of any color or under any other name;
    2-demand Medvedev’s resignation;
    3-demand the resignation of deputies;
    4-all people go to the polls;
    5-and choose someone, no matter who (I don’t see or have seen a single candidate other than Putin), and so on.
    I STRICTLY disagree with a single point!
    Points 1 to 3 are a change of power, and who benefits from it? Well, definitely not Russia!
    point 4, well, this is a complicated question, yes, it is the duty of a CITIZEN of Russia to participate in elections, but NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO FORCE us to do it!
    point 5 contradicts itself
    I apologize in advance to those of the readers who voted with their heads.
    I always CHOOSE in elections, like many here.
    Therefore, author, before you sow confusion in society, think about how society will respond to this, because you have to live in it!
    Well, if you are planning to leave or live abroad, then for God’s sake, this, but remember the saying:
    What goes around comes around!
    1. VP
      +1
      28 January 2016 11: 51
      It's simple - there are Duma elections in September.
      That’s why the articles “how wrong the Duma is, it’s all their fault, you don’t live well, right?” will be up to "above the knee". From different ones.
      Girkin and Limonov recently put together a joint batch and will start promoting it wherever they can get their hands on.
  74. +5
    28 January 2016 11: 46
    The article looks like a fake, it smelled like hydrogen sulfur, did anyone want to survey the mood of the people?
  75. +1
    28 January 2016 11: 47
    But since my personal level of education does not really allow me to assess professional suitability the same Nabiullina, and I judge solely by her statements on TV, then I personally have no options for replacement.
    I read it,... the impression is twofold, what the author wanted - “everything is gone, the plaster is being removed,” whoever is literate can see for himself what is happening, both in the country and in the world! Well, in short, the author’s words - “no education” are nothing to write about! Who is the article intended for?
  76. +1
    28 January 2016 11: 47
    mnogabukafniasilil.
  77. Erg
    +1
    28 January 2016 11: 47
    The article is surprising. It seems that the author, in principle, does not understand the world, and has completely lost touch with reality. He has no idea how and by whom the country and the world as a whole are governed. I don’t see the point in going through everything point by point. But I would like to “hint” to the author that elections are a toy given to the people by the ruling elites. so that they (the people) feel their “significance” and “responsibility” for the fate of the country. Yes
  78. +2
    28 January 2016 11: 48
    Sometimes I read comments and am more and more inclined to think that we have a whole generation of potential traitors, for whom their shirt is closer to their body. And who are ready to betray everyone and everything, but so that only they feel good. But they do not want to understand that if something happens to them, then they should not hope for the help of others.
  79. +5
    28 January 2016 11: 48
    Some kind of incomprehensible cry from the heart, not an article. How are Crimea, Ukraine, Syria, and the dollar exchange rate related to Oil? All of you are bad, the President and the Chairman of the Government and the Duma, and the system as a whole is not shining either. But how can everything change? Who can lead the country better? Or will you not know until you try? But these people with a 99% probability will not be held responsible for their actions. There is a cry from the soul, but there are no own thoughts about what to do and what to do. It turns out to be some kind of dummy.
  80. +1
    28 January 2016 11: 52
    Regarding the elections. The people, basically, do not go to elections because they do not believe in their honesty, which creates the possibility of manipulating their votes. And fundamentally, an honest, decent and intelligent person does not get involved in politics, because it is a dirty business.
  81. VP
    +1
    28 January 2016 11: 55
    Quote: RPG_
    There is a cry from the soul

    What is the cry of the soul?
    The author has lost weight, is malnourished, is he wearing his last socks?
    What sucks is that politicking has gotten into topvar
  82. +5
    28 January 2016 11: 59
    Boorish style of expressing thoughts. Not too far away from the liberals. This is a certain level. I consider it beneath my dignity to enter into polemics with this buffoon! I would just like to add that if people’s lives are really getting worse, in the author’s opinion, they should clap their hands with joy. And further. Scolding GDP does not mean being an enemy of Russia.
  83. +4
    28 January 2016 12: 00
    It seems that the author has again started testing public opinion on VO, otherwise the article looks more like trolling, you see, it’s the people’s fault, they say, they don’t go to elections. Well, let’s imagine that the ENTIRE people voted, and those for whom they voted turned out to be thieves. They will tell me that you need to look at who you vote for, so, that’s the problem: we don’t know anything about those for whom we vote. Everyone mimics the “good” ones, go figure out which of them is corrupt and which is honest, and there is no guarantee that this honest one will not be crushed by the system and turn everyone into the same corrupt official.
    1. +2
      28 January 2016 12: 29
      You have to vote not for a candidate, but for a party, which, according to the party lists, is already dragging just about anyone into the Duma. The voter is deprived of the opportunity to protest vote, return the “against all” column to the ballot! Or fuck them... These elections!
  84. +1
    28 January 2016 12: 03
    I agree that Putin is in place. There is simply no alternative to him. Another issue is the economic block of the Government. They all whine painfully and curse with horror stories. No one voiced a clear program. There were rumors that we would “get rid of” dollars and euros and would not “peg” the ruble to oil. At all times, currency was backed by gold reserves, not oil and gas. By the way, about gas. Since we are one of the main suppliers of gas, let's sell it for rubles. So we will strengthen the ruble. And there is no need to talk about the quality of imported goods (especially consumer goods). Our sewing is no worse. By the way, sewing was great in the Union.
  85. +1
    28 January 2016 12: 03
    What is the strength of “brother” Roma? - that’s right in the TRUTH! And it seems that today’s situation worries YOU personally much more than others. And apparently you are not very happy about Crimea, and the fact that WE responded to Syria’s request not to abandon them to be torn to pieces by the stones inspires you little either. But you quickly realized with your turnip who designate guilty. The truth of Roma is that the price of oil is artificially low, The truth is that the people have the right to determine for themselves where they want to live, The truth is that those who destroy the people should be punished. And also getting up from your knees into a pack of jackals is not easy and this is also a truth that needs to be understood.
    1. 0
      28 January 2016 12: 38
      No pasaran! Buddy! +
  86. +1
    28 January 2016 12: 09
    Putin V.V. Of course he makes mistakes, he is also not without sin. But let's remember what kind of Russia it was when he came to power, or have we already forgotten? The fact that Crimea is ours is great; you can’t exchange Crimea for a piece of blue cheese. Syria is the same, everything is correct, one clarification should have started earlier. But it turned out the way it did. Türkiye has never been our friend; it always kept a scimitar in its bosom. And lastly, stop focusing on the west or east, you need to live with your own mind. If you were smart enough to destroy everything Soviet, you should be smart enough and strong enough to restore what was destroyed. There is simply no other option, otherwise we are all worthless.
  87. +5
    28 January 2016 12: 10
    I read Roman’s article. In general, there is no analysis in it. Only a propaganda attempt to cross a tremulous doe with something is visible. In general, we ate up the beginnings of the fat 2007, it was probably the most magical year, when money poured in at the snap of a finger. And Now reality, described by the formula of $30 for 200 liters of oil or $78 rubles, has taken us by the throat. Moreover, it took it hard, from the inside and outside, both in the form of falling commodity markets and the lack of cheap refinancing of the economy, which was undertaken in the West. In general, the consensus from below began to support the consensus from above. And it turned out, or rather, indecent things were revealed. The elite does not want to bear the burden of the crisis and stupidly dumped the costs on society, in the form of a decrease in the parity purchasing power of the national currency. liberal Government of Medvedev in office. And what did they get? Pieces of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, although they could have gotten the entire Left Bank. Further, it turned out that the problem of the legitimacy of the “privatization of the 90s through share-for-shares auctions” has not been resolved. That is, some, for the promise to pay once 100 or 200 thousand dollars, received huge pieces of public property. In Great Britain, as a result of Thatcher’s privatization, those who became very rich were forced to pay for this wind flow, that is, a tax on excess profits. They have not separated speculative capital from the capital of the main economy and are not maximizing the capacity of their real sector. Yes, something is being done, but where are the enterprises with 3000-5000 employees? City-formers who feed the families of these 5000 and create the infrastructure of the city. There is nothing like that. The Vostochny cosmodrome and that, a disgrace, has become synonymous with the plunder of public money by private individuals. I can list many shortcomings. I go to elections and know those who are running for deputies locally and beyond. These people only want to receive and not give anything. They are directors of some enterprises, their charter states only “making a profit at any cost.” I don’t blame Putin, he is a liberal, he leads this rotten consensus, he created the ONF, because he alone will be killed if he fights with the “elite”, as has already happened with many. On the other hand, he himself is a figure put forward by part of the elite in exchange for the status quo “as it was under Yeltsin.” Only the implementation of a state policy with the economy working only for noble grabbers already led us 100 years ago to social upheavals; we would not want us to find ourselves on the same turn of the spiral again.
  88. -2
    28 January 2016 12: 11
    Roman wrote everything correctly. In fact, the question constantly arises about Donbass - why didn’t the miners come out, why are so many people fleeing the war? We don’t have a war, but are we ready at our work, in our city, to go out with the same caring people to the LOCAL and lay everything out in the open? Not under bullets and shells, but only under the menacing eyes of your boss, director, mayor or governor. It’s easier to go incognito, putting pressure on the keyboard to find fault with everything and everyone! They don’t change horses at the crossing, and worse has happened...
  89. +2
    28 January 2016 12: 12
    Epiphany, We were mistaken, we captured the wrong peninsula. It should have been Sinai.
    With a city of federal significance: Sharm el-Sheikh!!!!!
    Mayor Luzhkov Yu.!!!))))
    1. 0
      28 January 2016 13: 10
      I appreciate healthy humor.
      1. +1
        28 January 2016 14: 20
        This is not healthy humor at all!
        Sober, cold calculation of the insidious Russian!

        And in general: where is the moderator looking?!! Valdis reveals state secrets, DedLuka exposes himself as an FSB agent, trying to pass it off as a joke.
        But no one pressed the peninsula, of course, it left on its own (with God’s help smile ), having good reasons and finally getting a reason.
        drinks
  90. 0
    28 January 2016 12: 17
    Dear, does anyone see a reasonable alternative to the president? Navalny or what? Or Kasyanov? It's funny. Unless it's Kadyrov... The rest don't work at all. Yes, the president is far from the imaginary ideal, and our government is not entirely ideal, but what is “ideal government”? Oxymoron. Like snow-white soot or the honest word of a cop. The author certainly amused me in one passage. This is when he spoke about 12 years of election experience. Even with all the references to his knowledge of the system of bribing voters, he still believes that there are “fair elections.” In fact, “fair elections” is exactly the same oxymoron. And all this “bribing voters” is needed solely for information noise. Why bribe someone if we have a whole State Automated System “Elections”? As they order, so he will count. It was not for nothing that the Americans admitted at one time that they were supplying it or analogues “to developing countries with the aim of quickly establishing democracy.” By the way, does anyone know that in the United States there has long been a whole movement for the abolition of electronic voting and a return to traditional paper ballots from beginning to end? They also understand: “What is written with a pen cannot be cut out with an ax.”
  91. +2
    28 January 2016 12: 18
    The author presses on the “elections”, they say, go and vote in the “elections” for “the right ones” and everything will be fine, there will be “prosperity and good things” for everyone. Author - I...T (a literary word and this is the name of even one famous work of a Russian classic). Why? I'll explain it point by point. 1) the country has already developed a system of “weeding out” candidates for the Duma and other power structures that do not suit the established system of power of the “oligarchy from the circle of “close associates”.
    2) those candidates from the people who somehow managed to make it to the elections do not receive any support from the authorities, and are subject to all kinds of obstruction in the media in order to discredit them as individuals, etc.
    3) when promoting into power structures, a candidate needs money, money and again money and the patronage of existing power structures; candidates from the people have none of this and will not have any of this.
    4) the authorities like to “play around” with the electorate by nominating “dark horses” who, with their inadequate promises, “wind up” the people and draw votes away from real candidates (like Mr. Prokhorov with his “e-mobile”).
    5) and finally, the most important thing - despite the number of votes, regardless of the results of the real elections, those percentages will finally be shown, those candidates who suit the authorities will be chosen. Then you will be able to “wave your hands” for a long time, be indignant and say that the “percentages” are incorrect, do not correspond to reality, etc., by and by, “the train has already left” and no one will “replay” something there, they will say the stock phrase - “ go to court" where everything will end in an understandable way, an example of this is the lawsuit of Zyuganov and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation on the falsification of the 1996 elections, which was "voluptuous" for many years and was eventually recognized as "overdue" due to the "prescription of years."
  92. +1
    28 January 2016 12: 23
    Quote: Oorfene Deuce
    What is he right about? The author complains that everyone is to blame, not just Putin...

    No, you misunderstood, the author means that everyone is to blame, yes, but for the fact that they have not yet overthrown the current government.
    Amorphous, they say.
    Well, that is, “narodnetot”. Yes, this is an old song, citizens!
    Well, of course, the author and some commentators personally held in their hands documents about the accounts of Putin and officials and stood with candles during the signing of the relevant agreements. It’s bullshit that real evidence is needed to accuse, and even more so to accuse the head of state. Any honest, non-living citizen already knows everything, who are swindlers and thieves, and who is crystal honest and cares about the good of Russia.
    Oh, the liberals have become so excited even here on this site.
    And these are not yet the real problems in the country. may be cooler.
  93. -3
    28 January 2016 12: 24
    All sorts of organisms crawled out of all the cracks and began to whine that everything was bad and Putin was to blame for everything. What are you personally doing to make things better?
    1. 0
      29 January 2016 08: 35
      Well, for example, I have been working only in Production for 34 years.
      Worked in mechanical engineering, energy, petrochemistry, oil refining, oil and gas production. And of course, in construction.

      30 years of work as an electrician (mainly kalyms), 20 years as a mechanic, 10 years as a low-level manager (shift supervisor, deputy and site manager).

      But, forgive me, I don’t recognize Putin!
      I was never for him (however, I already wrote about this in previous comments)
      I don’t believe in the fairy tale: “The king is good, the boyars are bad”

      So there’s no need to harp on this boring “crapcratic” phrase:
      -Start with yourself, work!

      What about an alternative to Putin?
      Alternative to Government?
      -Yes, as much as you like!
      But they won’t be allowed to climb up!
      Thieves hold on to their power and will not give it up so easily...

      And when I talk about an alternative to the thieves who climbed to the top, I’m not talking about the Navalnys or the Zyuganovs.
      For example, a good friend of mine, the General Director of one of the monopolistic enterprises producing products for the oil industry, may well be a minister.
      Why?

      Yes, simply, he was my foreman at kalyma for general construction (how many projects we delivered turnkey!), worked as a boiler operator, studied, and under the Presidential program became General
      -Yegorych went through everything, from the very bottom!
      "Fumbling" in economics and business and technology, of course
      And there are many of them in our country, I answer!
  94. +6
    28 January 2016 12: 31
    The author is either naive or something...
    Have you ever wondered who the people are being asked to elect deputies from? Could a random person be there? Of course not! Only in THEORY! Well, more coincidences are possible. In reality, these are sophisticated political technologies, PR, lies, etc. + significant financial resources. Who is the author fooling?
    Who to choose from? It's like being asked to choose cow, cat, or bird feces to eat. Which one does the author prefer?
    So people choose the lesser of evils and the more predictable.
    In addition, social elevators are completely disabled! The ball is ruled by clans, kinship, nepotism, etc. and so on.
    A decent, honest and worthy person can only get into government structures or run for deputy in very exceptional cases.
    The mechanism for recalling deputies has not been worked out and thought out. Elections in Russia so far are a farce, which everyone knows about, but is not particularly advertised. Here in Samara in 2008 everyone voted for the communists, and United Russia won! Author, explain to me - how does this happen? How could such a nonentity and enemies of Russia, how could the Gudkovs even get into the State Duma? And the majority of people believe that their place is in the logging area. And there are a legion of such beepers, and completely open ones.
    In general, complete nonsense, but it turns out that the people are to blame! Of course it’s my fault - I should have gone out on time, and hung Chubais and his gang and other liberal evil spirits on poles, who for 25 years have not been able to do a damn thing due to their thieving corruption. Only the people still have 1917, 1941, 1991-93 fresh in their memory, so they will endure until the last. The people do not want unrest. Well, if, God forbid, it happens, it will be such a mess that the planet will wash itself with blood. Compared to the Russian revolt, IS will seem like a pathetic ballet.
    But the authorities don’t want to change anything in an evolutionary way! Who would voluntarily give up the curly-haired life? It turns out to be a raskoryak! Everything is as usual.
    How long have Zhirik and Zyuganov been smoking the ceilings in the State Duma? Everyone is already sick of them, but where are the young, violent leaders? We can talk about this for a long time, but what’s the point?
    Using the example of the LDNR, it is very good to observe similar processes.
    The article is a fat minus!
    1. +1
      28 January 2016 12: 55
      In this case, when choosing a lesser evil, we end up getting a greater one. This is what we are counting on. And this system is precisely well thought out by those who use it for selfish purposes. This is a scam, and the voter is a sucker. A lesser evil, or even a blessing, would be the disposal of the election ballot, as a sign of protest, against everyone, if there is no such column.
  95. +5
    28 January 2016 12: 39
    And in Tolyatti there was almost a scandal after the last elections, when the Communist Party of the Russian Federation came out with a slight advantage. Some United Russia officials promised us a sweet life. I don’t know whose hands it was, but now the plant is owned by foreigners who don’t consider the workers as people, local enterprises are closing one after another, foreign ones are opening, where they also don’t care about the workers. Salaries have fallen, prices are rising. Starting from the new year, travel is not 20r but 25r within the district, between districts it is not 22r but 27r. Medvedev flew in and promised to pay 50 lard, but like last time, the money practically won’t reach the city. VAZ components are imported from Turkey and other EU countries. We write letters to Moscow, but apparently they don’t arrive.
    Oh, it doesn’t fit with what they say on the box, oh, it doesn’t fit. Oh yes, I forgot, our mayor is a Bobtist, we chose him ourselves, although the choice was not great, we had to choose the criminal former head of the Tolyatti City Internal Affairs Directorate. We are not whining here, this is for reference, for everyone to see.
    1. -1
      28 January 2016 15: 04
      Quote: Bedrovich
      Oh, it doesn’t fit with what they say on the box, oh, it doesn’t fit. Oh yeah, I forgot, our mayor is a Bobtist, they chose it themselves,


      Oh, isn’t it time for a bobista in the neck? I wonder if this is a dog?

      Dear Bedrovich! If you were smart enough to speak out HERE, and even rise to the rank of foreman, then your groan
      Quote: Bedrovich
      We write letters to Moscow, but apparently they don’t arrive.
      seems strange...

      Well, tense up, Bedrovich! You are not alone, apparently, your letters will definitely end up in Moscow! No.
  96. 0
    28 January 2016 13: 23
    I read it - I smiled lol
    The “Imperials” crawled out to the pre-election marathon after the group of watering cans named after “JANUARY 25” gathered together. So Roman Skomorokhov rolled up his knees... a familiar character from "RIGHT VIEW - information portal of the RUSSIAN IMPERIAL MOVEMENT" http://rusimperia.tv/catalog/5170.html
    It’s disgusting to even say something about THIS. Fuck him am
  97. +4
    28 January 2016 13: 30
    Dear, I don’t consider criticism of Putin and his team, as Roman puts it, “crying”, it was the lack of a clear policy, and not Crimea, that led to what we have, and this is Roman’s mistake, Crimea is only part of the component of our crisis, remember 2-3 years ago they predicted a drop in oil prices to 30-20 dollars, our budget is set at 40, they say that the economy around the world is going to fall, we have an expected growth of 3-4%, that this is sabotage or lack of professionalism and why should people pay for it, about guilty not guilty, but we ourselves brought United Russia and the Duma and the government and the president to power, now is the time to think, because in the fall there are elections to the Duma
  98. +3
    28 January 2016 13: 33
    And who aspires to be a deputy, if you look closely - a turner, a collective farmer, a barman. No, it’s a little different - people with great ambitions - the director of a plant, the chairman of a collective farm, the head of a wholesale warehouse. They probably want the turner and collective farmer to have a better life. I would like to believe, but statistics say otherwise. They seem to be showing a report on the screen about who stole where. And regarding the elections, even if no one comes, they will still be chosen, because the trough beckons them and they do not have the strength to stop.
  99. +2
    28 January 2016 13: 35
    I just don’t understand why the author was so excited and whining?
    Probably, the spring in his sofa burst, somewhere in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe ass. Well, at that time they showed Putin on TV, so the author started whining and wailing, everything is wrong!
    Here, don’t touch Crimea, don’t argue with the Americans, don’t get involved with ISIS, don’t go into Syria - better, tie a white ribbon to the cause and most importantly (he really didn’t dare say about this): “REMOVE PUTIN.”
    Now, I can’t understand, is the author submitting his entry for peace or for health?
    And also, if the author doesn’t remember, in the USSR only extras were chosen; the director, i.e., the Political Bureau, appointed “artists” to the main roles.
  100. 0
    28 January 2016 13: 59
    If I were a US citizen (censorship!), I would say, chewing a cigar: “words are cheap, but whiskey costs money...”

    “Well, since this is the situation that you yourself drew, then at least don’t whine.”

    Yes, we don’t seem to be whining, in general crying

    No matter what happens, Roman, hang in there, we are with you! smile

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