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French Foreign Ministry: Syrian Kurds are not invited to Geneva

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French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said that UN Special Envoy Staffan de Mistura did not invite representatives of the Syrian Kurds Party to the talks in Geneva, the Democratic Union, reports RIA News.


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“Mr. de Mistura sent invitations ... the party of the Syrian Kurds Democratic Union caused the most problems, Mr. de Mistura told me that he did not send them an invitation letter,” said Fabius.

According to him, the special envoy confirmed that "the Syrian opposition group formed in Riyadh will lead the talks, although other government opponents may also be represented at the talks."

“I spoke with (coordinator of the Syrian Opposition Supreme Committee Riyadh) Hijab ... he will send a response to de Mistura and (UN Secretary General) Ban Ki-moon this morning,” said the minister.

“If I understand their position, they agree to negotiations ... but at the same time they want to know the details - who is involved, what is being done on the humanitarian front and what we will talk about,” Fabius added.

On Monday, de Mistura announced that the negotiation process will begin on January 29 and will last approximately 6 months.

On Tuesday, Sergey Lavrov noted that "without the participation of the Kurds, negotiations on a settlement in Syria will not be productive."
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 27 January 2016 18: 38 New
    24
    "the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party caused the most problems"

    Apart from the Turks, the Kurds do not cause any problems.
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 27 January 2016 18: 49 New
      +9
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Apart from the Turks, the Kurds do not cause any problems

      Exactly. But the Turks deliver a terrible firebrand to everyone. Lavrov is right, without the Kurds it will not be negotiations, but another blah blah blah. Kurdish militias actually control a significant part of Syria, in contrast to a certain "Syrian opposition group formed in Riyadh," whose armed representatives are successfully cut down by the Syrian army. Not without the help of our VKS, of course.
      1. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov 28 January 2016 00: 48 New
        +2
        And in vain. Beat ISIS, then participate, then have the right to share in the victory
    2. NIKNN
      NIKNN 27 January 2016 18: 53 New
      +7
      Lavrov is right, without the Kurds it will not be negotiations, but another blah blah blah.

      Do you think negotiations are being held for peace in Syria? How do you understand that?
      1. Negotiating the creation of an interim government during the war may be necessary for everyone except Syria. This means almost ending the fight against the igil.
      2. For what purpose is all this started? Crush Syria and, accordingly, deprive it of the opportunity to resist.
      3. It will agree on the suspension of the database and give the igil the opportunity to free themselves at a time when they must be crushed without stopping.

      One hope for Lavrov ... hi
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 27 January 2016 18: 59 New
        +1
        While the Europeans will breed bureaucracy and appoint negotiations, everything will end in Syria. hi
        1. cniza
          cniza 27 January 2016 19: 03 New
          10
          Kurds are the main military unit after the Syrian government army and they do not oppose the Government, they only interfere with Turkey.
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 27 January 2016 19: 16 New
            +5
            Quote: cniza
            Kurds are the main military unit after the Syrian government army and they do not oppose the Government, they only interfere with Turkey.

            .. Golden words and most importantly do not aspire to Kurdistan .. they themselves said autonomy in the SAR and the return of citizenship and rights .. no more .. hi
          2. Dembel77
            Dembel77 27 January 2016 19: 35 New
            0
            I am sure that I will express a common opinion - Russian Foreign Minister S. Lavrov has once again convincingly pointed to the weakest point in the negotiation process that has not even begun in Geneva. Even if we argue from a position of elementary common sense, then non-participation in the negotiations of any of the interested parties leads to a dead end solution to any problem. Moreover, such a politically and vitally important issue as the achievement of peace on Syrian soil. Any business cannot be done well, even if only part of it is done perfectly. For reference:
            Kurds are the largest ethnic minority in Syria (Kurds account for approximately 9% of the country's population)
            All clear?
            Photo: Kurdistan Workers' Party militants in a training camp
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 27 January 2016 19: 46 New
              +6
              Quote: Dembel 77
              Photo: Kurdistan Workers' Party militants in a training camp

              ... not militants .. but, Kurdistan Workers' Party Wars .. and this is TURKEY! .. but not Syria .. the PKK has no relation to Syria .. unless there is sympathy .. Would you still drag the Borzanists from Iraq .. hi
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 27 January 2016 20: 28 New
                0
                Quote: Inok10
                Kurdistan Workers Party wars .. and this is TURKEY!

                who said that this is Turkey? Rather, in the areas of Iraq and Syria, and a long-standing photo.
                Quote: Inok10
                and what does the PKK have to Syria .. is it not sympathy ..

                Actually, the YPG is the wing of the PKK. But Peshmerga and Barzani have a different story.
                1. Inok10
                  Inok10 27 January 2016 20: 53 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  who said that this is Turkey? Rather, in the areas of Iraq and Syria, and a long-standing photo.

                  .. it's not a photo .. it's old and it's a fact .. hi
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  Actually, the YPG is the wing of the PKK. But Peshmerga and Barzani have a different story.

                  .. YPG - Syrian Kurds:
                  The “movements for a democratic society” (Kurd. Tevgera Civaka Demokratîk), the foundation of Kurdish self-government, make anarchists around the world cry with envy. Strict separation of religion from politics, freedom of speech and religion, direct democracy, militia instead of the army and police, equal rights for men and women (including the service plan in self-defense units), nationalization of natural wealth - all this is there. At the same time, the Kurds claim that until recently they did not want to intervene in the war on any side, but only protect their land. Since the end of May 2013, the YPG has been fighting mainly against Islamists and militants of the Free Syrian Army trying to establish control over the Kurdish areas of Syria - thus, the Kurds play the role of a “third force” in the Syrian conflict. However, PYD was accused by the Syrian opposition of loyalism towards B. Assad (and even that the Assad government deliberately placed northeast Syria under PYD control)... To clarify: the Kurdish militia of Iraq called "Peshmerga" (Kurd. Pêşmerge) has much in common with the YPG, but is not the same structure with it.
                  More details: http://militaryreview.su/412-kurdskie-zhenschiny-na-peredovoy.html
                  .. They are all Kurds .. but they are all different .. and we understand that perfectly .. hi
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  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 27 January 2016 18: 44 New
    +3
    The Turks said no to the Kurds. It is clear that they will not be asked, but stupidly cut out another republic from Syria without asking for opinions.
  3. APASUS
    APASUS 27 January 2016 18: 45 New
    +5
    I don’t understand, is this a bow to Turkey or the belief that the Syrian issue can be solved without the Kurds? Fear of infringing on the interests of the Turks in Europe now is just some kind of paranoid character, there are and will be Kurds, Turkey will want to recognize them or not as a party to the conflict
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 27 January 2016 18: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      The fear of infringing on the interests of the Turks in Europe now is simply of some sort of paranoid character, there are and will be Kurds, whether Turkey wants to recognize them or not as a party to the conflict

      ... everything is much simpler and more banal .. just immediately form the composition of the "opposition" which, in fact, has nothing to do with the settlement in Syria .. it is not for nothing that it was formed in Riyadh .. the result of such negotiations is already easily predictable .. idle chatter .. well, they will accuse Assad of not observing the agreements reached, who will fight the barmaley, who no one decides .. A sand castle .. hi
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 27 January 2016 19: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: Inok10
        not for nothing that it was formed in Riyadh

        It's just that Riyadh did not speak out openly against the participation of the Kurds, as representatives of Turkey, this is precisely their merit, but with a "sand castle" it is quite possible
        1. Inok10
          Inok10 27 January 2016 20: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: APASUS
          "sand castle" is quite possible

          .. legalization of non-existent opposition to Assad at the International level .. remember 1982 and the Muslim Brotherhood in Hama .. nothing changes .. hi
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 27 January 2016 19: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Kurds are and will be

      They just have not yet been given the opportunity to speak out. And by all means try to prevent this. But do not forbid how much, but the truth will find a way out.
    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz 27 January 2016 20: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      I don’t understand, is this a bow to Turkey or the confidence that the Syrian issue can be resolved without the Kurds?

      This is simply a red line of Turkey that they cannot cross. The Kurds crossing to the other side of the Euphrates, their strengthening is a red line of Turkey. And here neither the US nor the EU of Turks can stop.
      Therefore, for the West to have at least some influence of the Kurds and control them in Syria, than to allow their complete destruction and leveling of their victories in Syria.
  4. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 27 January 2016 18: 46 New
    +7
    "the Syrian opposition group formed in Riyadh"
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 27 January 2016 19: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Tim Coconuts
      "the Syrian opposition group formed in Riyadh"

      With the support of 100 paratroopers from the SGA preparing an airfield in southern Syria, without asking Syria for permission! And if without demand?, Then you can ask for an adult! (Over Syria - a no-fly zone for everyone who does not answer "friend or foe"!
      1. -Traveller-
        -Traveller- 27 January 2016 23: 31 New
        0
        since when is the no-fly zone there? everyone flies.
  5. pest
    pest 27 January 2016 18: 47 New
    +2
    It is regrettable that the UN does not know that Kurds are almost 15% of the Syrian population. Or they know, but they sing under Obama there.
  6. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 January 2016 18: 52 New
    +1
    Instead of the Syrian Kurds, what will be two Turkish delegations at once ???
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 27 January 2016 22: 07 New
      0
      Well yes ! And for me, nothing new is expected!
  7. hartlend
    hartlend 27 January 2016 18: 53 New
    +1
    Need to squeeze an invitation for the Kurds. Russia can have political dividends in the Middle East. Again, Turkish Kurds ...
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 27 January 2016 23: 33 New
      +1
      again turkish kurds what?
      they’ll ruin Turkey, create Kurdistan, give the Greeks Constantinople, Ararat to the Armenians, and send Erdogan’s head to Putin for dinner?
      come down from heaven to earth.
  8. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 27 January 2016 19: 02 New
    +3
    The height of the cynicism of the "democratic" west.
    Kurds are a real opposition to the authorities of Turkey, Iraq and Syria, because constitutes numerous united groups of the population, having political contradictions with the authorities, claiming, quite justifiably, to the right to be heard by the international community.
    And the West is looking for mythical opposition, which was the source of the conflict, because these groups represent primarily the interests of other states, moreover, they are armed, paid and trained. The number of these groups, the level of support by the population is not clear. It is likely that among them there are not a few terrorists who have not yet been convicted of inhumane crimes.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 27 January 2016 20: 09 New
      0
      Quote: olimpiada15
      And the West is looking for mythical opposition, which was the source of the conflict, because these groups represent primarily the interests of other states, moreover, they are armed, paid and trained.

      Trained, armed and inculcated by the State Department - these are the forces that "deserve" "trust" in pseudo-negotiations!
  9. Dimontius
    Dimontius 27 January 2016 19: 05 New
    0
    Something reminds me of the surname of this comrade Demistura ... something wet, repulsive, always interfering and often inadequate. But seriously, HE IS NORMAL NO ?? Kurds pile up there on the very "neboluisya" !!! well, although it's clear ... the UN is in Washington recourse
  10. Siberian
    Siberian 27 January 2016 19: 08 New
    0
    Kurds in Syria are a big force. They were not deliberately invited, to exacerbate the situation.
  11. andrew42
    andrew42 27 January 2016 19: 15 New
    0
    Western politicians are once again trying to "negotiate" the process on Syria and bring it to the point of absurdity. They are also trying to a priori deprive both Assad and the Syrian Kurds of the fruits of their potential victory with a purely diplomatic tool. Truly, they do not sow, they do not plow, they only deftly wave a spoon. Especially those who, according to Keitel, "have these also defeated us?"
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 27 January 2016 23: 37 New
      0
      Quote: andrew42
      they are trying a purely diplomatic tool to a priori deprive both Assad and the Syrian Kurds of the fruits of their potential victory

      it’s good that it will be diplomatic, and if Russia and Iran begin to participate openly with aviation, artillery, etc., and not secretly throw up weapons and medicines to the partisans. Assad will be blown away very quickly and the VKS will not help.
  12. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 27 January 2016 19: 16 New
    0
    According to him, the special envoy (UN) confirmed that “the group of the Syrian opposition formed in Riyadh will lead the negotiations, ...

    Clear! The sponsors of the thugs in the person of the Saudis will put forward the same jihadist thugs for negotiations on behalf of the Syrian opposition only by dressing them in civilian suits and try to achieve the same goals with the pressure of the whole West, along with the Arab monarchies - Assad’s departure and the collapse of Syria, whom they have already been many years old It’s not possible to achieve it by armed means (Russia is in the way)!
  13. 4ekist
    4ekist 27 January 2016 20: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Apart from the Turks, the Kurds do not cause any problems

    Exactly. But the Turks deliver a terrible firebrand to everyone. Lavrov is right, without the Kurds it will not be negotiations, but another blah blah blah. Kurdish militias actually control a significant part of Syria, in contrast to a certain "Syrian opposition group formed in Riyadh," whose armed representatives are successfully cut down by the Syrian army. Not without the help of our VKS, of course.

    Didn't you forget to invite the "opposition" that sits in London and stinks?
  14. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 27 January 2016 20: 49 New
    +1
    This disrespect for the Kurds comes back to them. How to drink to give.
  15. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 27 January 2016 20: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: APASUS
    I do not understand, this is a bow towards Turkey

    Apparently so.
    Erdogan also bargained for the slowdown of refugees.
  16. -Traveller-
    -Traveller- 27 January 2016 23: 08 New
    0
    1-0 in favor of Turkey. the match continues.
  17. gray_angel
    gray_angel 27 January 2016 23: 26 New
    +1
    Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu stated that Ankara is ready to arrange a boycott of the Geneva talks if the delegation of the Syrian opposition includes representatives of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PDS). Turkish television broadcasts an angry statement from the Foreign Minister:
    In what general capacity will the representatives of the Party of the Democratic Union of Kurds be present (in Geneva)? This is a terrorist organization. How can she represent the interests of the people? Terrorists at the meeting can not be!
    ... That's right, therefore the Turkish (country of the aggressor) delegation has nothing to do at the Geneva talks negative
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 January 2016 01: 34 New
    +1
    It is strange that one of the strongest figures in the Syrian drama will not participate in the negotiations. By the way, what are the negotiations about? About the partition of Syria? About the legalization of the Barmaley? About the theft of Syrian oil by the Turks? It is easier to negotiate a garage cooperative ("Garage") than a hastily assembled gathering against the legitimate power of Assad. And time plays against the barmaley. For 4 months, the Syrian army with militias and the Aerospace Forces turned the tide. As far as can be judged, the Syrian Kurds "hold" their areas and do not help Assad, but they do not interfere. Keep the border. And here's another question. And the Syrian oil through whose regions did it go to the Turetchina? and are the Syrian Kurds really so disinterested?
  19. PKK
    PKK 28 January 2016 01: 40 New
    0
    They did not call the Kurds, apparently also because the United States made cash injections to the Kurds and pursued its own policy. Perhaps they did not want to hear US policy on these issues.
  20. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 28 January 2016 04: 46 New
    0
    But this, no matter what you say, is too much for Erdogan
  21. Wolka
    Wolka 28 January 2016 05: 16 New
    +1
    you need to show your will and give the Kurds the opportunity to find their own state, if Russia does this, we will have an eternal, ever faithful ally in the Middle East, however, the Yankees and, above all, the Turks will do everything to prevent this from happening ...
  22. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 30 January 2016 11: 51 New
    0
    And let's collect our gangway in Moscow or St. Petersburg? We invite the Syrians, and the entire Geneva gang. Those who do not come, the whole world will declare terrorists or accomplices of terrorism.