Tokarev self-loading rifle bayonets

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In the second half of the thirties of the last century, several self-loading and automatic rifles of new types were adopted by the Red Army. The first was ABC-36 designer S.G. Simonova, adopted in 1936 year. it weapon had a number of characteristic flaws, because of which the development of self-loading and automatic rifles continued. The next representative of this class was the rifle SVT-38, created by F.V. Tokarev and subsequently upgraded to SVT-40. Like other rifles of the time, the new weapon was to get a bayonet for use in hand-to-hand combat.

At the end of the 1930s, military leaders believed, not without reason, that the bayonet battle did not outlive itself and would remain an important element of the nearest conflicts. Thus, all new rifles, including self-loading, had to be equipped with blades for use in melee. The 7,62-mm self-loading rifle of the Tokarev system arr. 1938 g. Or SVT-38. In developing this weapon, the experience of creating previous automatic systems, as well as blades, was actively used. For this reason, SVT-38 was supposed to receive a bayonet, somewhat similar to ABC-36 blade.

In the mid-thirties it was no longer believed that the bayonet should be constantly attached to the rifle. To fix it on the weapon (it concerned only new systems, but not old “Trekhliniek”) now followed only if necessary. The rest of the time the blade was to be in the sheath on the fighter's belt. This feature of the application, as well as the specifics of the use and the problems that arise, led to the final abandonment of needle bayonets. The future was only with bayonet knives.


SVT-40 rifle with a closed bayonet. Photo Huntsmanblog.ru


The SVT-38 rifle received a relatively long bayonet, the general structure of which resembled a blade for the ACB-36 rifle. A number of features of the previous weapon showed itself well and switched to a new product without noticeable changes. However, other design features have been reworked.

The main element of the new bayonet was a blade of one-sided sharpening with a pointed symmetrical combat end. With a total weapon length of 480 mm, the blade length was 360 mm. The heel and most of the blade had a width of 28 mm. Due to the great length of the blade, the valleys were used on the side surfaces. Unlike the bayonet for DIA-36, the new blade had straight valleys located along its longitudinal axis. According to some reports, early bayonets for Tokarev rifles had a sharpening on the edge located on the side of the ring, because of which, when installing the bayonet on the weapon, the blade was on top, under the barrel. According to other sources, the blades of different batches had a sharpening both on one and the other edge.

In the back part of the blade the crosspiece was fixed, made in the form of a metal plate with an elongated upper part. The latter provided for a ring with a diameter of 14 mm for mounting on the rifle barrel. The head of the handle was made of metal and had a device for mounting on the weapon. In its back surface there was a deep groove in the form of an inverted "T". There was also a spring-loaded latch operated by a button on the left side of the handle. The space between the crosspiece and the metal head was covered with two wooden cheeks on screws or rivets.


Bayonet knife arr. 1938 with scabbard. Photo Army.lv


Bayonets for SVT-38 were completed with a sheath for carrying. Their main part was made of metal. By means of one or two metal rings, leather or cloth tape was attached, bent into a loop. With the help of this loop, the sheath was fastened on the belt of a soldier. The design of the scabbard made it possible to transfer the blade and, if necessary, quickly remove it for mounting on a weapon or using it for other purposes.

The rifle systems for mounting the bayonet had a fairly simple design. The bayonet was to be mounted on the muzzle of the rifle muzzle and fixed with the help of an inverted “T” bracket mounted under the barrel. In this case, the blade was rigidly fixed in its place and could only be removed when acting on the latch. The design of the rifle and bayonet allowed stabbing and cutting blows.

To install the bayonet on the SVT-38 rifle, it was necessary to remove the blade from the scabbard and attach it to the front of the weapon. In this case, the muzzle of the trunk should have fallen into the ring of the cross, and the T-shaped bracket should be placed in the corresponding groove in the head of the handle. When the bayonet moved towards the butt, the ring was put on the barrel, and the barrel bracket entered the groove and was fixed in it with a latch. With comparative simplicity, this design of the installation systems provided the required rigidity and fastening strength.


Bayonet arr. 1938 g. With scabbard (top) and blade arr. 1940 with scabbard (bottom). Photo Knife66.ru


7,62-mm self-loading rifle Tokarev system arr. The 1938 of the year was put into service in the 1939, and shortly thereafter its mass production began. The assembly of new rifles was deployed at the Tula and Izhevsk weapons factories. There were also made bayonet knives. There is information about the production of bayonets for SVT-38 and at some other enterprises. Manufacturers labeled their products with the help of "branded" brands and numbers. Depending on the batch and the period of production, the marking could be applied on the side surface of the cross, the heel of the blade or even on the cheek of the handle. The designations used also depended on the time of manufacture and manufacturer.

During the first few months of operation, the SVT-38 rifle in the troops was able to identify various minor flaws that should be eliminated during modernization. Claims were expressed both to the rifle itself and to its bayonet. The appearance of such complaints has led to the creation of a modified rifle, which was put into service in April 1940 and is known under the designation SVT-40. Together with her adopted and new bayonet arr. 1940

One of the main objectives of the modernization project was to reduce the size and weight of the rifle. It was originally planned to shorten the weapon by reducing the length of the barrel, but tests have shown that in this case there are failures in the work of automation. Because of this, it was necessary to reduce the length of the weapon not by reducing the rifle, but by the bayonet. Thus, the main difference bayonet-knife arr. 1940 from the previous sample were the total length and dimensions of the blade.

General features of the design of the bayonet remained the same, but the length decreased. The total length of the bayonet was reduced to 360 mm, the length of the blade - to 240 mm. The width of the blade, the location of the valleys, the dimensions of the handle, etc. remained the same, because they did not affect the overall length of the rifle with melee weapons. Reducing the length of the blade also led to some reduction in mass: along with the sheath, the new bayonet weighed no more than 500-550.

Tokarev self-loading rifle bayonets
The shortened bayonet for the SVT-40 rifle and its scabbard. Photo Bayonet.lv


According to some sources, the bayonets for the early-release SVT-40 had a sharpened upper (located on the side of the cross ring) edge. Later had a blade on the other side. However, it cannot be excluded that the location of the cutting edge depended on the lot and the manufacturer and could be different for weapons from different periods.

The bayonets of the first lots had the same latch as their predecessors. In the future, this device has been modified. During the operation of weapons in the army, it turned out that during fencing on rifles, the enemy’s weapon could accidentally press the latch button, thereby disconnecting the bayonet or, at least, breaking the connection strength. In this case, the fighter remained virtually unarmed and lost chances to get out of the bout as a winner. To exclude such situations in the design of the bayonet arr. 1940, a new small detail.

The design of the latch itself with the spring and the button remained the same, but a small shoulder appeared on the outer surface of the handle head. He had to cover the button and protect it from accidental clicks. The shoulder almost completely closed the button above, behind and below, so that it could be completely pressed into the handle only when pressed in front. Due to this, the probability of accidental loss of the bayonet was sharply reduced.


The upper surfaces of the arms of bayonets arr. 1940 (top) and arr. 1938 (bottom). The safety edge of the button is clearly visible on a newer sample. Photo Knife66.ru


For several years, the Soviet defense industry has produced about 1,6 million Tokarev rifles in several versions. In addition to the main variants of the 1938 and 1940, sniper SVT-40 and automatic rifles AVT-40, as well as automatic carbine ACT-40 were produced. Not all of these samples were completed with bayonets, because of which the number of blades released was noticeably less than the number of rifles. In fact, bayonets were made only for rifles of the 38 model and 40 model. There is information about equipping automatic AVT-40 with bayonets. Other types of weapons did not receive bayonets.

After the end of World War II, Tokarev self-loading rifles and their modifications were considered obsolete and went to storage or disposal. In addition, a significant number of weapons were adapted for civilian use and sold to the public as hunting rifles. During this alteration, army rifles were deprived of some elements, primarily bayonets and T-shaped brackets under the barrel.

In addition to the Red Army, the Tokarev rifles and bayonets for them were used by the armed forces of some friendly states. Some of the outdated rifle systems were transferred to the Warsaw Pact countries, etc.

In connection with the termination of the production and operation of rifles designed by F.V. Tokarev bayonets actively written off and sent to the smelter. Nevertheless, a sufficiently large number of such cold weapons survived to our days. Now bayonet knives for SVT-38 / 40 are a popular sample among cold weapon collectors. At the same time, depending on the state stories etc., the price of the blade can vary within sufficiently large limits.


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  1. +2
    3 February 2016 06: 44
    The bayonet of the 38 sample is impressive, just a mini broadsword.
    1. 0
      3 February 2016 07: 19
      Well, so this was the beginning, we have not yet arrived at what we have now, we studied by trial and error and by the method of scientific poking.
  2. +6
    3 February 2016 07: 28
    Now, if you can apply the epithet to weapons - Beautiful, then for me it is LIGHT and it is with a bayonet! Thanks for the article!
  3. +4
    3 February 2016 07: 58
    In our internal dresses, the men of the day went with bayonet-knives not from AKM, but with some kind of ancient hatchets. Now I found out - this is from SVT-40. Thanks to the author! laughing hi
    1. +2
      3 February 2016 11: 36
      Actually, in the country's Air Defense Forces, in parts of which it was possible to visit, SKSs were in service with l / s, and the people stood with SVT-shnykh bayonets in their attire.
      They also screwed the wire to the scabbard and put some fillings so that the people in the attire would not dance! laughing
      With respect to the colleague.
      1. +1
        3 February 2016 11: 57
        Quote: Lekov L
        were armed with l / s were SCS

        We had conscripts with AKM, and officers and warrant officers with TT. smile hi
        1. +2
          3 February 2016 13: 31
          Probably you are closer to the borders of our homeland. Or later I was all watched.
          We have SKS fighters had until the end of 80x.
          Officers and warrant officers were half armed with TT and PM. Moreover, the TT holster on the harness was fastened with straps and absolutely "gorgeous" dangled from behind at the hip.
          In my youth I was a little jealous with my staff PM. smile
          Yours!
          soldier
          1. 0
            3 February 2016 19: 43
            Quote: Lekov L
            Probably you are closer to the borders of our homeland. Or later I was all watched.

            2nd RTBr, 15th Lviv Red Banner Air Defense Corps. The end of the 80s.
          2. +1
            3 February 2016 19: 53
            Quote: Lekov L
            In my youth I was a little jealous with my staff PM.

            In vain. They were very old - 42-46gg. release. belay One suddenly for no reason began to shoot bursts. laughing They are also very large and inconvenient to disassemble for cleaning. And when worn not in a holster, they "lose" the store. laughing
            Sincerely. hi
            1. 0
              4 February 2016 23: 19
              Sorry was on a business trip ..
              It was with great pleasure that I used TT (aliens) compared to the PM - a song!
              All 47-52 year of release (from which he shot). No problem.
              Then another warrant officer, Zhenya Galeyev, never even left his TT from 29 on a standard chest target. I never got out of his typewriter from 27. (although from his Makar too smile )
              Growth and everything else I have is not small because I was comfortable with the size. wink
              Respectfully..
              Threat Gorky Corps, Ministry of Defense VPVO, Ney, Kostroma. The middle of 80.
      2. +2
        3 February 2016 17: 41
        Quote: Lekov L
        Actually, in the country's Air Defense Forces, in parts of which it was possible to visit, SKSs were in service with l / s, and the people stood with SVT-shnykh bayonets in their attire.


        The same song in long-range aviation ... SCSs are in the guns, while the day ones have bayonets from SVT or AK-47.
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  4. +1
    3 February 2016 10: 05
    Cool products ..... stunned. I love cold ....
  5. +2
    3 February 2016 10: 10
    Quote: Good cat
    The bayonet of the 38 sample is impressive, just a mini broadsword.

    But a shortened one will be more convenient.
  6. +1
    3 February 2016 10: 51
    Thank you! It’s interesting and beautiful. Especially the bayonet-knife and the scabbard to it in the second photo, sort of gilded.
  7. -4
    3 February 2016 11: 12
    Quote: Ryabov Kirill
    After the end of World War II, Tokarev self-loading rifles and their modifications were considered obsolete and sent for storage or disposal.

    Recognized as having fatal structural defects. Why are they suddenly obsolete in 1945? Used to be mosquitoes.
    Quote: Ryabov Kirill
    In addition, a significant amount of weapons was adapted for civilian use and sold to the population as hunting rifles.

    NEVER not used on responsible hunting (serious predators).
  8. +3
    3 February 2016 12: 37
    Quote: 2news
    fatal structural defects

    Your untruth. A defect is a marriage, and a military receiver will not accept a serial rifle with it. Experienced rifle with a defect rejected by testers at the training ground.
    Quote: 2news
    NEVER used on responsible hunting (serious predators).

    That's right, never, never? The unspoken rule of the hunters?
    1. -2
      3 February 2016 12: 45
      Quote: Chtononibrator
      A defect is a marriage, and a military receiver will not accept a serial rifle with it.

      Take an interest in how the manufacturing defect differs from the constructive one.
      Quote: Chtononibrator
      Experienced rifle with a defect rejected by testers at the training ground.

      Yeah. And then they’ll catch up, and once again reject. It is very convenient to tell the testers of the KV tank with its gearbox. Who took it, and it was NOT rejected. Yes, and other examples, a bunch.
      Quote: Chtononibrator
      That's right, never, never? The unspoken rule of the hunters?

      It's never, never. Perhaps the "hunters". And without a huntsman, as a rule.
  9. +7
    3 February 2016 12: 53
    Quote: 2news
    NEVER used on responsible hunting (serious predators).
    Well, here you are wrong. Namely SVT-40 - of course not, but their hunting modifications - how! OSK-88 based on SVT-40, SVT-O (from "Hammer") based on AVT-40, good, very high quality and reliable weapon, not very widespread, of course, but nevertheless, it has a stable contingent of adherents.
    I know one hunter (very well-to-do) he has a sniper version of the SVT-40 with his own 3,5-fold launcher (pretty much modified) for 12 years already and he is not going to give it up. I went with him on a moose, of course not "on serious predators", but for those who are in the subject, the moose will be worse than a bear.
    PS: Although no, the bear is still more terrible. wassat
    1. -2
      3 February 2016 13: 17
      Quote: otto meer
      good, very high quality and reliable weapons

      You’re not me, you’re telling the Ministry of Defense. The specialists of which for 4 years of the war did not even guess which masterpiece they were dealing with. And immediately after the war, the SVT-40 was removed from service, and the remainder of the troops was seized.
      Also ask why during the war the small-scale production of the SVT-40 sniper was discontinued, and the production of the sniper mosinka was restored. Well, it is customary to call ordinary infantrymen in connection with the SVT-40 stupid rams (which is essentially a uniform disgrace), but snipers cannot be called uneducated felt boots. And they also refused the "masterpiece".
      Quote: otto meer
      OSK-88 based on SVT-40

      This is the same SVT-40, only with "fintiflyushki".
      Quote: otto meer
      He has a steady contingent of adherents.

      Even demonism has a stable contingent. This is from a lack of literacy in this matter.
      Quote: otto meer
      I know one hunter (very well-off) that he has a sniper version of the SVT-40 with his native 3,5-fold PU (fairly modified) for 12 years and he’s not going to refuse it.

      Why are you doing this? Does this say something about the qualities of SVT-40?
      Quote: otto meer
      I went with him to a moose, of course not "serious predators"

      And the bear will not do. The huntsman will advise. In categorical form.
      1. +2
        3 February 2016 16: 34
        Quote: 2news
        You’re not me, you’re telling the Ministry of Defense.
        Yes, actually I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. The reasons for the transition of snipers lie in a slightly different plane, independent of the reliability of the SVT-40 itself. If you are interested in this issue, you should know, this is, firstly, a cartridge, and secondly, the technology and equipment of production. Many by the end of the war, by the way, enjoyed and did not complain. And on either side. And some after the war.
        Quote: 2news
        And immediately after the war, the SVT-40 was removed from service, and the remainder of the troops was seized.
        Because something else appeared good
        Quote: 2news
        Even demonism has a stable contingent. This is from a lack of literacy in this matter.
        That is, people who love SVT, boots? Did I understand correctly?
        Quote: 2news
        Why are you doing this? Does this say something about the qualities of SVT-40?
        Nothing. Just an example of the fact that there are people who love this rifle and know how to use it.
        Quote: 2news
        The huntsman will advise. In categorical form.
        Hmm .. I don’t know. We have a captain with such a go and the responsible too. And nothing. request
        1. -3
          3 February 2016 17: 15
          Quote: otto meer
          this is, firstly, a cartridge, and secondly, the technology and equipment of production.

          No. First of all, it is the disgusting accuracy of fire from the SVT-40. This is a common problem with Soviet rifle and semi-automatic rifles. This problem is called "the absence of a rifle design school." Instead of dealing with this problem (raising personnel and forming a school), agitprop over and over again invented stories about how another cunning nugget peasant (without special education) allegedly came and won everyone in one fell swoop. It was, of course, easier than working.
          Quote: otto meer
          Many by the end of the war, by the way, enjoyed and did not complain.

          So many until the end of the war and TT, PPSh, PPS, P08, P38, MP40 used, and did not complain. And after the war, AK / AKM and PM used, and did not complain. They just did not understand what they were using. And it looks like what to use should be.
          Quote: otto meer
          Because something else appeared

          Nothing else in 1945 did not appear, do not fantasize.
          Quote: otto meer
          That is, people who love SVT, boots? Did I understand correctly?

          Not properly. You can use whatever definitions you want, it's up to you. But it is more correct to use the term "incompetence in this matter"Actually, after the decision of the Ministry of Defense of 1945, it amazes me, what other questions could there be about the SVT-40? Except to troll in the internet ...
          Quote: otto meer
          Just an example of the fact that there are people who love this rifle and know how to use it.

          Love is evil. And our ancestors could use it no worse than today's users. And they were not dumber. Just taking advantage in extreme conditions, they refused from SVT-40. In favor, paradoxically, things are older. And structurally less advanced. But, ultimately, more reliable and reliable. Although among European bolts Russian infantry rifle (in the USSR since 1930 it was called a mosin) was the most sloppy (except for the Italian Parravicino-Carcano 1891/28, the Greek Mannlicher-Schönauer, the Scandinavian Swedish Mauser and Dutch Mannlicher).
          Quote: otto meer
          We have a captain with such a go and the responsible too. And nothing.

          Let him walk. And prays that "what" would not happen. One time will be enough for him.
          1. +2
            4 February 2016 01: 52
            Quote: 2news
            First of all, this is disgusting accuracy of firing from SVT-40. This is a common problem with rifle and semi-automatic machines of the USSR.

            Share with us evidence of such high-profile statements. Do you have data on the accuracy of all?
            Quote: 2news
            lack of rifle design school

            They made fun. By the end of the war, the USSR had such a school, envy. For the first competition for an automatic machine in 1944, they just didn’t offer it, both the bulpap and ala brand.
            Quote: 2news
            agitprop invented stories over and over again

            But now, with an abundance of sources, it is shameful to invent some kind of defects, disgusting accuracy and amateur designers.
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            2. -2
              4 February 2016 03: 10
              Quote: Chtononibrator
              Share with us evidence of such high-profile statements. Do you have data on the accuracy of all?

              Of course. Why should I prove the obvious to you? If you lack special knowledge, this is your problem. Self-educate. Begin at least with a sign.
              Quote: Chtononibrator
              By the end of the war, the USSR had such a school, envy.

              This is you tell the boys of the lower grades. They will willingly believe you.
              By the way, can you give me examples of successful products of this "school"?
              Quote: Chtononibrator
              For the first competition for an automatic machine in 1944, they just didn’t offer it, both the bulpap and ala brand.

              I understood. You don’t know anything about the general idiocy of a 7.62x39 mm cartridge. Do you think a good weapon can be made on a defterium cartridge? You are mistaken.
              Quote: Chtononibrator
              But now, with an abundance of sources, it is shameful to invent some kind of defects, disgusting accuracy and amateur designers.

              Have I written to you about self-education? I wrote. So self-educate. You need.
              1. +2
                4 February 2016 10: 18
                Quote: 2news
                Why should I prove the obvious to you?

                And I, by my ignorance, thought that high-profile accusations should be supported by something, I was probably mistaken.
                Quote: 2news
                By the way, can you give me examples of successful products of this "school"?

                And why should I give you examples of obvious things. Oh well, start with PPP-43. I’ll tell you a secret, any weapon has controversial decisions, but babbling about a certain inferiority is the level of your junior friends.
                Quote: 2news
                About the general idiocy of a cartridge 7.62x39 mm

                And revelations again. And the floor of the world doesn’t know what they’re fighting.
                Quote: 2news
                About the general idiocy of a cartridge 7.62x39 mm

                And where on this plate are the catastrophic losses of the Soviet systems? Not only is it a spherocog in vacuum (from a machine tool and single), so even in such conditions the old AK at real ranges is almost not inferior to young rivals.
                1. -4
                  4 February 2016 11: 43
                  Quote: Chtononibrator
                  I, in my ignorance, thought that high-profile accusations should be supported by something

                  Actually, we are talking about well-known facts. If you do not know them, self-educate. So understandable?
                  Quote: Chtononibrator
                  Oh well, start with PPP-43

                  You are my dear. As a cartridge, PPS-43 used a cartridge of 7,62x25 mm TT. For the army, this is a sentence. There could be nothing good on such a cartridge in principle. That’s why you write about things you don’t understand at all?
                  Quote: Chtononibrator
                  And the floor of the world doesn’t know what they’re fighting.

                  They know. But for free and vinegar is sweet. The townspeople are free and happy about it.
                  Quote: Chtononibrator
                  So even in such conditions, the old AK at real ranges is almost not inferior to young rivals.

                  I understood. You also do not know how to read tables with results. Once again, I suggest you self-educate as much as possible.
                  1. +2
                    4 February 2016 13: 14
                    Quote: 2news
                    Actually, we are talking about well-known facts.

                    It seems they are well known only to you alone.
                    Quote: 2news
                    As a cartridge PPS-43 used a cartridge of 7,62x25 mm

                    Weird logic you have. Judge the technical perfection of the weapon by the cartridge, which was made by completely different people.
                    Quote: 2news
                    For the army, this is a sentence.

                    For Foshysd, yes, there was a sentence.
                    Quote: 2news
                    But for free and vinegar is sweet. The townspeople are free and happy about it.

                    Not only the wimps. After the WWII, the Yankees poured their weapons around the world and developed Europeans, including the latter, even imposing their outdated ideas on promising developments.
                    Quote: 2news
                    I understood. You also do not know how to read tables with results.

                    I understood. You bring the table, not knowing what the direct range of the shot and the real range of fire in battle.
                    Quote: 2news
                    Once again, I suggest you self-educate as much as possible.

                    Much wishes to you.
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                    2. -3
                      4 February 2016 14: 09
                      Quote: Chtononibrator
                      It seems they are well known only to you alone.

                      Striking you are the "teapot" in the shooter. Those. generally a complete zero. Why are you "commenting"?
                      Quote: Chtononibrator
                      Judge the technical perfection of the weapon by the cartridge, which was made by completely different people.

                      Damn, where are you going! You, damn it, do not even understand that a cartridge is the basis of a weapon. It is IMPOSSIBLE to make a good weapon on an unusable cartridge. And on a good cartridge bad, easily.
                      I got it already, honestly. Why not at school today?
                      Quote: Chtononibrator
                      the latter even imposed their outdated ideas in promising developments.

                      Who judges this? Vasya Perestukin, second-class and second-year student?
                      Quote: Chtononibrator
                      You bring the table, not knowing what the direct range of the shot and the real range of fire in battle.

                      Do not make me funny.
                      Quote: Chtononibrator
                      I understood.

                      I don’t think so. Not yours. You would master the general principles of multiplication and division at school. Already there would be great progress.
      2. PKK
        0
        3 February 2016 18: 55
        With regard to the sniper, the SVT 40 was surprised. It hurt her barrel very much when fired. There is such a video as a slow-motion shot of a shot from SVETka. So the barrel is visible as it bends almost by millimeters.
        1. 0
          3 February 2016 19: 34
          Quote: PKK
          As for the sniper, SVT 40 was surprised.

          What's this. There was also AVT-40. That was a miracle, so a miracle. Probably, the calculation consisted of 2 people. One held the rifle, the other aimed it at the target. And so in turn, while one held the other shoulder healed. The recoil was "horse" for automatic fire.
          Interestingly, it was possible to get somewhere with automatic fire from the AVT-40?
          1. 0
            4 February 2016 01: 57
            Quote: 2news
            Interestingly, it was possible to get somewhere with automatic fire from the AVT-40?

            Of course not, because it was taken into service at the height of the war just like that, with nothing to do.
            1. -1
              4 February 2016 03: 19
              Quote: Chtononibrator
              Of course not, because it was taken into service at the height of the war just like that, with nothing to do.

              See how the brow blows away with bestowal. You will be useful.
              1. +1
                4 February 2016 10: 37
                Video from YouTube is a huge proof, yes. And why do the poor military invent all sorts of OCD, research and proving ground tests? We looked that the man was shaking and decided no, we would not accept it. Well, at least now it’s clear on what you are building your sensational statements.
                1. -2
                  4 February 2016 11: 46
                  Quote: Chtononibrator
                  Well, at least now it’s clear on what you are building your sensational statements.

                  I understood. You have no arguments. Therefore, you are engaged in ordinary verbiage. Those. troll.
                  PS. Learn the terms "recoil momentum" and "recoil force". These indicators are easy enough to calculate without special knowledge.
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  10. +2
    3 February 2016 15: 01
    Kiril, ATP for the article.
    Regarding one-sided sharpening from the conveyor, it is not entirely clear, because with a sharpened false blade, the injection will be easier.
    And the shape of the dagger blade contributes.
  11. +3
    3 February 2016 15: 04
    Cyril maybe enough for a quick hack blurt out?
    In addition to the main variants of 1938 and 1940, the SVT-40 sniper and the AVT-40 automatic rifle, as well as the AKT-40 automatic rifle were produced. Actually, the bayonets were made only for rifles of the 38th and 40th years. There is information about equipping automatic ABT-40 bayonets. Other weapons of bayonets were not received.
    ALL samples of self-loading and automatic rifles and carbines were equipped with bayonets - this was a general rule. In addition to this, bayonets were made MORE than weapons since bayonets are lost, broken, etc. therefore, initially a certain amount is introduced into the production plan that will go into the spare parts.
    In addition, a significant amount of weapons was adapted for civilian use and sold to the population as hunting rifles. During this alteration, army rifles lost some elements, primarily bayonets and T-shaped brackets under the barrel.
    Maybe you do not need to write nonsense and fantasize? the first fencing of warehouse SVT - OSV-88 did not have any differences from SVT except for brand new brands, the only part of the OSV received brackets for optics. Modern fenced SVT also have bayonet tides.
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    3 February 2016 17: 41
    article is interesting, plus to the author.
    after modernization in 40, and it is known that modernization was carried out later, from the grandfathers who fought on the fields of the Second World War I heard good and not very good reviews. But the fascists did not disdain them. I read about several units of SVT-40 weapons after adaptation to their ammunition. as well as PPSh.
    ps. I got the impression that there are a lot of shooters on "KONTRSTRAYKU" here. or for urgent ones who have not learned (they do not shoot in the locker room or the office) to shoot from a Kalash.
    and one more thing: when the army warehouses were opened and converted into civilian ones, even the PM for gas did not change the barrel of the auger there to hot pressed. And the freaky "craftsmen" picked them back out. Well, I do not exclude other products that were taken from the army to civilian ones.
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      3 February 2016 21: 17
      Quote: serzh sibiryak
      .after adapting to their ammunition. Just like PPSh.

      One for both? or separately? laughing SVT was not altered under the German cartridge, and PPSh was used both with the native barrel-cartridges and re-mounted under 9X19 with an insert-magazine acceptor for MP-38 / MP-40 stores.
      Quote: serzh sibiryak
      I got the impression of "KONTRSTRAYKU" shooters

      You evaluate your knowledge very correctly. laughing
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    3 February 2016 18: 58
    A good rifle repaired and shot from it, you need to take care of it. About quality I will say one came across with the development of the barrel, and the mechanism worked. The bayonet was called a large sapper in the army.
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    5 February 2016 16: 49
    Responsibly declare the bayonet cool. The metal is otpadny. Truth shortened. The rest is changed. The tip itself is at home. I want to make a knife for peeling potatoes. (Although honestly and clearly it doesn’t work) Steel is super. It so happened, in his youth he cut it. I’m scolding myself now. Well, he was young, not smart. Wait a long time already, I regret it. Good luck.

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