Problems of rearmament of the Bundeswehr continue

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Rearmament of the German army is delayed, it is not enough in volume and is more expensive than previously planned, leads the newspaper Look the words of the special Bundestag on the armed forces of the country Hans Bartels.

German Minister of Defense Ursula Gertrude von der Lyayen.

"Good news - Modern weapons today comes. The bad news is that everything is overdue, delayed, full of "childhood diseases", often occurs in too limited volume and at prices that are higher than planned, "
Bartels said during the presentation of his report on the development of the Armed Forces of Germany.

“Old ships are being decommissioned before new ships fall on the water. About weapon and the ammunition has nothing to say at all, ”he added.

Last autumn, DW TV and Radio Company reported on Germany’s intention to increase the defense budget under the pretext of a “Russian threat”. However, the implementation of plans to rapidly increase the power of the Bundeswehr is deliberately doomed to failure. "Since the end of the Cold War, the number of combat vehicles in Germany has decreased by three quarters, and the planned increase in military spending will not return these losses to the German armed forces," the publication noted.
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  1. +2
    27 January 2016 15: 59
    Nothing personal, just business laughing
    1. +10
      27 January 2016 16: 01
      Nothing to say about weapons and ammunition
      If this is in Germany, then what about the rest of Europe.
      1. +5
        27 January 2016 16: 08
        Quote: bort4145
        what can be said about the rest of Europe.

        "The rearmament of the German army is being delayed, it is insufficient in volume and is more expensive than previously planned." And they say that only everything is bad with us. what
        1. +9
          27 January 2016 16: 16
          It's just that everything became very expensive (for everyone): F35 - $ 100 million, SU-34 - 1.5 billion rubles. But during World War II, all sorts of theater and ballet figures + collective farmers from us, and in the West, bought planes and tanks for the front with the money they earned. At today's prices, massive and rapid rearmament is impossible - everything is being updated very slowly.
      2. +2
        27 January 2016 18: 15
        Scho again to release now only he is the American fascists what
      3. +1
        27 January 2016 18: 42
        No, I understand everything, but who would help us?
        Question: Why pull the ears of one who does not want to?
        In a moymu it is a rake. They pulled some, others, third, and what do we have in the end? see The whole western border.
    2. +3
      27 January 2016 16: 55
      Everything is as always when a furniture maker or a gynecologist becomes a minister, then the army plays in a box or goes to the female genitals.)))
    3. +2
      27 January 2016 17: 28
      Quote: Wend
      Nothing personal, just business

      ------------------------
      There is money to receive a million migrants, the maintenance of one costs 1000 euros / month. Here you are, Gertrude, and 12 billion euros a year.
      1. +3
        27 January 2016 17: 59
        Europe relaxed after the collapse of the USSR. 300 combat-ready Leopards, a little more than a hundred working fighters are very few to the former greatness of the Bundeswehr (by the way, in Kazakhstan there are as many working equipment). And they still rule and dictate conditions in the EU and teach life. And something new types of weapons are not particularly visible. All kinds of infarmation technologies are all the same secondary. The United States is also no different, the Navy is only being updated, but old models are being modernized. F-22 and 35 while something is not clear with them, the first has already been discontinued (they say expensively).
        It turns out that the EU needs to specifically invest in its armies - and there are not enough grandmas for refugees. It must be assumed that the military operations of the aerospace forces in Syria seriously perplexed the Europeans. They will not be able to act like this without the USA, especially in time - BC will not be enough. They need ten years to get fit. If we recall that instead of machine guns on the BTT, sticks were inserted in the exercises, the armies were cut, all gays were called up, women were to be led by the army — all this did not raise morale. And what did they turn the best warriors of Western Europe? hi
  2. +15
    27 January 2016 16: 01
    "Ikhnyaya Shoigu" is quite sad, however ...
    1. +5
      27 January 2016 16: 08
      Quote: AID.S
      "Ikhnyaya Shoigu" is quite sad, however ...

      Looks like New Year's Eve walked around Cologne. wink
      1. +8
        27 January 2016 16: 15
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Looks like New Year's Eve walked around Cologne.

        Looks like she was walking there. How is this notorious lady smile
        1. 0
          27 January 2016 19: 15
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Looks like she was walking there. How is this notorious lady

          Yes, even walk there, even walk. In a hungry year, no one will be for a bag of potatoes
      2. +3
        27 January 2016 16: 16
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: AID.S
        "Ikhnyaya Shoigu" is quite sad, however ...

        Looks like New Year's Eve walked around Cologne. wink


        Or maybe she didn’t walk on the contrary, but now she regrets that she was unlucky.
    2. +1
      27 January 2016 16: 17
      "Ikhnyaya Shoigu"

      ... and that is strange: they quote no one to bro Bartelsa, and on the fot they seem to Ursula.
      Mogbyt "Ikhnyaya Shoigu" doesn't have an opinion?
  3. +5
    27 January 2016 16: 01
    And the article below wrote that our productivity is 15 times lower than in Germany and automation is primitive. How does it happen?
    1. +2
      27 January 2016 16: 31
      So the Germans do not have such a mother, file and sledgehammer. wink Well this is secret nanotechnology. The red-headed reptile personally modifies from the blanks. laughing
  4. +1
    27 January 2016 16: 01
    Old ships are being disarmed before new ships fall on the water

    Oh damn. Brilliant translation laughing
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 16: 11
      ".. to leave, there is no such word" lay down ", there is a word to lay, it means ...." (c)
  5. +13
    27 January 2016 16: 03
    Interestingly, this Ursula served in the army? Many will criticize me, but it seems to me that a woman should be the Minister of Defense ... Well, maybe I'm wrong.
    1. +3
      27 January 2016 16: 20
      Right, right!
    2. +4
      27 January 2016 16: 46
      And the furniture maker was different from ursula? However, we rolled.
      1. +2
        27 January 2016 17: 55
        So here I am about the same. The army should be commanded by a man who knows how to do this, who later earned his rank and position with blood, and not some company or woman there.
  6. +1
    27 January 2016 16: 10
    They drank, ate - had fun; counted - wept. laughing
  7. +1
    27 January 2016 16: 19
    Ursula did the Bundeswehr soon finish off.
  8. +2
    27 January 2016 16: 25
    Great for the Germans "ambush" in the 40s, already the militant Prussian smell "disappeared". And for a long time! laughing
    1. +2
      27 January 2016 16: 43
      And after all, the matter is not even in the problems of the army and not even in the "Prussian darling", but this is the situation:
      My friends left in 93. Borya (the youngest) was born at them already there. In the 12 year I ask him, are you going to the army or what?
      The answer killed me !!! - I knew from the cradle that a man should serve in the army, and my father told you too, but I won’t go to what we call the army - we laugh at her !!!
      KAPETS !!!
      With his father, we served urgent in one part, though he is three years older than me (he came, I left), but to laugh at the army ??? True, I served 87-89, and Cat 85-87.
      1. +1
        27 January 2016 17: 30
        Quote: NDR-791
        My friends left at 93m.

        My wife, in the 90s, half of the family migrated to their historical homeland.
        Quote: NDR-791
        The answer killed me !!! - I knew from the cradle that a man should serve in the army, and my father told you too, but I won’t go to what we call the army - we laugh at her !!!

        Well, here, as, with Kokchetav, their distant relative is already fitfebel, or whatever the non-commissioned officer. Two trips to Afghanistan, through Bishkek, next to us, stopped by. So he managed to serve up to the sergeant in the SA, if not the nation could after training in WGV would have ended up near Irkutsk. "Stoned" still "pulls the strap."
        The joke is that their grandmother, still alive -95 years, the order of the "stooped" Labor Red Banner and Labor Victory over Germany, is something like for Courage. laughing Their grandfather, their late frame, was torn to the front. He died in Germany in the 2000s, and was barely brought alive, he managed to live another five years. laughing
        1. +2
          27 January 2016 18: 08
          There are many such jokes in life! Sergei Peres served with me, so he is generally a SPANISH by his passport !!! So it was written in the military man. Today, on the anniversary of the breakthrough of the BLOCKADE of Leningrad, on cable TV, I saw enough of the attempts of all non-state funds at the expense of - "We, BLOCKADISTS, despite the fact that after the war we left for different countries (both the United States and Brazil, and Japan - badges are hung on the map) REMEMBER !!! On the one hand, it is good that you remember, but on the other hand, where are the blockademen ??? And what do they remember ??? Once again, to poke us in the face that the children are dead, and Voroshilov ate chocolates ?? Sy-pasibiko, read a lot in the 90s and serials about innocently killed corps commanders have seen enough! We have here on October 25th, 15th there was an article "New propaganda center of the Bundeswehr", I snapped it up and got a bunch of minuses for the same Borkino - "they giggle at us." However, time finds the truth, and there is no escape from the truth ...
          1. +1
            27 January 2016 18: 17
            Quote: NDR-791
            Today, on the anniversary of the breakthrough of the BLOCKADE of Leningrad, on television on cable I saw enough of the attempts of any non-state funds to the account

            Congratulations and at the same time condolences, by the way why on the site about this is not!
            There was a relative on the maternal side, a blockade. I was even afraid when he came to Leningrad, Peter later came to them. One-eyed, blindfold, Then he lost. My father in Pushkino, as I do not know now, repairs radio-electronic equipment on an airplane.
            SO THAN CONGRATULATIONS ON REMOVAL OF THE BLOCKADE! And I also offer my condolences to the family and friends who have lost their family!
            1. +1
              27 January 2016 19: 28
              Yes, he flew on his father’s side, it was he who compensated for the time when he did not communicate with his family.
              Time passed I understand. Yes, I have problems with the language, Kazakh. The father thought that I would go to Balashovsoy. There is no school, here Chelyabinskoye Shturmanov is better to uncle in Kharkov.
              Chose closer to home!
  9. +2
    27 January 2016 16: 30
    Lord, what a mournful look the elderly monkey has. It seems that all sorts of Bartels and others like him completely shut up her.
  10. 0
    27 January 2016 16: 33
    constant blah blah blah, applause from the audience, and no change
  11. 0
    27 January 2016 16: 35
    What a minister, such a defense. Sarah to the chancellor!
  12. +2
    27 January 2016 16: 35
    Why do you need to rearm — spend your money wisely — order another three million refugees from Turkey and pay them the allowance for the fact that they have what they want and want.
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  14. 0
    27 January 2016 16: 52
    "Do not drink wine Ursula - drunkenness does not paint ladies"
  15. +2
    27 January 2016 17: 14
    In Germany, it is not necessary to rearm the army, but to strengthen the police. For her now, the internal situation is more terrifying, rather than the external ephemeral threat.
    There will be no peace in your house, no tanks and planes will help. It is less necessary to support "distribution of cookies".
  16. +2
    27 January 2016 17: 47
    German Minister of Defense Ursula Gertrude von der Lyayen.



    “The good news is that modern weapons are being supplied today. The bad news is that everything is delayed too late, full of "childhood illnesses", often happens in too limited amounts and at prices that are higher than planned ",

    Is this Leyen by any chance a relative of Eugenia, "The Red Slipper"?
    Or maybe they also have Deutschoboronservice?
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 19: 01
      No, she is a relative of Dale "Krasnogribochka" - said the chiefs 2% of GDP for our stale junk, you give it to me! Or maybe they also have Deutschoboronservice?
      And where is he going to get away !!!
  17. +1
    27 January 2016 20: 05
    I'd like to draw attention to the meeting room where Sara Wagenknecht spoke. Germany seems to be not the poorest country in Europe, but deputies can’t see any carpets, expensive furniture, or personal computers.
  18. 0
    27 January 2016 23: 11
    Ha ha The news is good. A trifle, but nice.
  19. 0
    28 January 2016 05: 38
    for the successful rearmament of Germany, first of all, it is worth abandoning the system of financing military projects imposed by the Yankees within NATO (the principle is work yourself let others earn money), which is unlikely to happen soon, now time works for us, but for how long ...
  20. 0
    28 January 2016 11: 03
    Here I read some comments and am surprised. Why worry about the Bundeswehr? For me, let them feed refugees better than restore the army.