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Belolentnoy treat "Bear in Strasbourg"

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It became clear during the week that representatives of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, after exchanging peculiar potions with Russian parliamentarians about the powers of the Russian delegation, decided to hold a meeting with members of the so-called extra-systemic Russian opposition. As a result, a person like Mikhail Kasyanov, who was reportedly invited by the head of the European Alliance of Liberals and Democrats, Khan van Balen, arrived in Strasbourg, France, where the official delegation of Russian deputies refused to go. In general, a liberal liberal ...


According to the channel LifeNews, Mr. Kasyanov was received in one of the Strasbourg VIP restaurants - La Vignette Robertsau. The restaurant in France is known for serving exclusively by pre-ordering influential people and is closed to the general public. Apparently, the closeness of this institution helped the former Russian prime minister, who was accompanied in Strasbourg by such persons as Vladimir Kara-Murza, Olga Shorina, Vadim Prokhorov and Zhanna Nemtsov, to talk about the possibility of financing the Russian ultra-liberal project, which Monsieur Kasyanov considers himself to be . After the murder of Boris Nemtsov, Mr. Kasyanov is increasingly trying on the "uniform" of the main Russian "extra-systemic oppositionist".

But only for the fact that someone called himself a liberal, Europeans (even if they are very liberal Europeans - like the same van Baalen) will not give money. That is why Mikhail Kasyanov had to indulge in a liberal “dance”, focusing on the attention of PASSERS in the main areas of his activities in the Russian Federation and the main problems for this kind of activity. And Kasyanov set off in his liberal “dance” in a separate room of the PACE, where he was originally invited - even before going to the restaurant ...

What are the most "sharp" topics raised by Mr. Kasyanov at the PACE session, to which (to the PACE) neither he personally nor his companions have any relation. The “main” problem, as the ex-premier stated, is, of course, “the deterioration of the situation with rights and freedoms in Russia.” Well, of course - 100% totalitarianism and dictate, in which the same Mr. Kasyanov is not particularly hampered by conducting frankly anti-Russian activities both in Russia itself and when going abroad (to the same Strasbourg). With the rights of Mr. Kasyanov, everything is “so bad” that he can afford to compile “sanctioned” lists and pass them on to those who impose sanctions on the basis of Kasyanov’s lists on Russia ... In general, the security issue is nothing else. .

Mr. Kasyanov was also brought to the PACE members by the fact that there is such a person in Russia as Ramzan Kadyrov, and this same Kadyrov, you see, insulted the most honest and immaculate Russian opposition (more precisely in this context, the fifth column) with his statements ... From the statements of Kasyanov, published in social network:

At the same time, I drew the attention of PACE members to the threats made by the leaders of Chechnya against politicians, human rights defenders and journalists of liberal views.

Ramzan Kadyrov’s words about “enemies of the people”, by which he understands critics of the current government, are clear evidence of the problems existing in the country. After all historical there is only one parallel - with the period of Stalinist repressions, when "enemies of the people" were to be destroyed. These statements of one of the officials of Russia speak about moods in the ruling circles. These sentiments are that criticism of the authorities, in their understanding, should not go unpunished. In fact, intolerance and hatred of dissidents are publicly incited, a clash with the democratic part of Russian society is provoked. And the rally held on Friday in Chechnya testifies to the intention to show the opposition that they are ready to deal with it. To show that, like Boris Nemtsov, who was killed a year ago, we are all supposedly on the fly, and the lists have already been drawn up.


An interesting statement, especially when you consider that Mr. Kasyanov clearly distorts the term "opposition". In any country, opposition means political forces that may express a different point of view from the state, but they will never allow themselves to trade in the interests of their native country. Kasyanovskaya is only busy with the fact that it spoils both Russia itself and its citizens. Or, according to Mr. Kasyanov, the transfer to Washington of the “recommended” sanctions lists, which are a blow to the Russian economy and at the same time - the position and ordinary citizens, too, is that dissent that benefits the Fatherland and its people? If so, then the question arises: where does Mikhail Mikhailovich have this very Fatherland? ..

In order to impress the PACE representatives, the ex-premier, for whom the nickname “Misha 2%” was fixed in Russia since the prime minister's time, stated the need for a thorough investigation of the murder of Boris Nemtsov. At the same time, Kasyanov urged (attention!) Not to trust the conclusions of the Investigative Committee? Yes ... And who then need to trust? Perhaps some regular “commission of Dutch experts,” which will suddenly form itself and “find evidence of the involvement, for example, of Vladimir Putin personally to the shots on the bridge in the center of Moscow” ... After all, how are you today with Western “partners ": A)" Putin was probably involved in the murder of Litvinenko ", b)" Putin probably hid the results of doping tests of Russian athletes from WADA ", c)" Putin may have personally bribed Blatter ", d)" Putin's traces probably on the Maidan. ” And then “d”, and “e”, and “e”, and “yat” too ...

On the Vkontakte page, Kasyanov publishes a photo on which, in addition to the delegation members mentioned above, you can see (suddenly!) Browder's “old days”. He publishes the same photo and Browder himself on his Twitter page.

Belolentnoy treat "Bear in Strasbourg"


Yes, yes ... This is the very “investor” Browder, who at one time heated his hands on predatory privatization in the Russian Federation. This is the same William Browder, who pulled the assets from Russia with two hands, using the notorious fund Hermitage Capital, with which Magnitsky is associated. It turned out that Mr. Browder also entered the Kasyanov delegation.

As the French say: oh, la-la ...

If Browder is a member of the Kasyanov delegation, then this is a transparent hint at who, forgive the dissident (Kasyanov) who sponsors this. The scammer, to whom the RF IC has a lot of questions, seems to have decided to try again to get close to Russian assets by providing sponsorship assistance to “non-systemic” (in other words, the fifth column). This is the second time when large-scale criminals decide to invest in the Russian “marshland” in order to try again to gain access to Russian finances and subsoil. The first case is financing M. Khodorkovsky of "necessary" candidates before the elections to the State Duma 2016 of the year. Although why the "first, second." It is more likely that these are just links of a single whole, when certain forces are trying to push into the Russian government, which, by the way, is enough for the ultra-liberals today, who are ready to sell the interests of Russia to satisfy the interests of their own spill.
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  1. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 28 January 2016 06: 12
    19
    For the ear of this "liberast", and into the sun! Right into the sun!
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 28 January 2016 06: 19
      -138 qualifying.
      Kadyrov is completely guarding ... a living creature, imagining himself to be something like the Black Lord. But. And "opposition" causes nausea and disgust in normal people. Still, I hope that money will be given to them in Europe - let them bribe students, revel in full steam in Moscow, after all, the benefits of the Russian economy, at least some "investment".
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 28 January 2016 06: 36
        34
        Great current article! And the author’s conclusions - this is a blow to the liberals not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
        Thanks to the author! Important information was noted - especially considering the autumn elections of 2016 of the year to the authorities in the Russian Federation.

        To author +
      2. morituri
        morituri 28 January 2016 08: 28
        33
        To call the head of one of the Russian republics with such words is the height of underdevelopment smelling of racism and incitement, you know what kind of hatred. And in general, talking about someone as a "living creature", and classifying yourself as "normal people" is fascism!
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 28 January 2016 16: 13
          -12 qualifying.
          Quote: morituri
          To call the head of one of the Russian republics with such words is the height of underdevelopment smelling of racism and incitement, you know what kind of hatred. And in general, talking about someone as a "living creature", and classifying yourself as "normal people" is fascism!


          - Fascism is a certain political system, in which, by the way, there are not many differences from communism. If you are hinting at Hitler's order, then I will allow myself to dispel your ignorance - there was National Socialism in Germany. The main difference between fascism and Nazism, in my opinion, is that Jews were never persecuted under the Nazis. Old Mussolini, it seems, was not interested in the racial issue, key to Hitler. Further. I do not incite hatred. It's just that I don't have such a girlish memory as you and your associates. For what Stalin exiled all these people to the wild [cut by the censor] You have already forgotten. Apparently, the events of the first and second Chechen war were also forgotten. And, most likely, they never knew how the rest of the peoples of the Caucasus relate specifically to the "Czechs". But today the trend is "Ramzan Krasaffcheg!", And you are enthusiastically "walking in a stream". Actually, I don't care, just attempts to "bind" "282" to me on this occasion cause nothing but slight irony. All the best.
          1. larand
            larand 28 January 2016 16: 45
            +5
            Quote: Haettenschweiler


            Your ignorance - in Germany there was National Socialism. It’s just that I don’t have such girlish memory as you and your like-minded people.


            You know everything, remember everything, open the eyes of the ignorant to us. Oh dear, I'm sorry, we did not recognize you.
            1. Haettenschweiler
              Haettenschweiler 28 January 2016 17: 28
              -8
              Quote: larand
              You know everything, remember everything, open the eyes of the ignorant to us. Oh dear, I'm sorry, we did not recognize you.


              - Here I pretend that I am not indifferent to your flat sarcasm. As for the rest, I expressed my point of view, including on "incitement". All the best.
          2. 222222
            222222 28 January 2016 21: 52
            0
            "" "" "......
            Moscow, January 28 - AIF-Moscow.
            How in China they fight corruption

            The Chinese government has punished 1148 officials convicted of laziness, negligence and inefficient work, the Xinhua News Agency reported.
            Internal audits have shown that some of the servants of the people disrupt the deadlines for large projects, neglect security issues and do work inefficiently. Most negligent officials identified in the field of health, education and social security, the agency said.

            As a result, some of the civil servants who had fined were fired, the rest were demoted. "" ""
          3. Old old
            Old old 30 January 2016 22: 03
            0
            Only for us, Fascist Germany attacked the USSR and we celebrate Victory over Fascist Germany, and leave the exact definitions for the "Theory of political parties" and scientific disputes.
        2. Pilgrim07
          Pilgrim07 30 January 2016 20: 26
          -3
          I didn’t understand something, but you are a sergeant, do you think Kadyrov’s possible? Can’t mortals be opened to us?
      3. oracul
        oracul 28 January 2016 09: 56
        +3
        And who is the judge?
      4. Ganssh
        Ganssh 28 January 2016 21: 01
        0
        What does your nickname mean? ?
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 28 January 2016 21: 09
          10
          After the murder of Boris Nemtsov, Mr. Kasyanov is increasingly trying on the “uniform” of the main Russian “off-system opposition”.


          Do not understand what "uniform" is trying on? The one in which Nemtsov is now?
      5. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 29 January 2016 14: 03
        +2
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler (8) Yesterday, 06:19 ↑
        Kadyrov is completely guarding ... a living creature, imagining himself to be something like the Black Lord. But. And "opposition" causes nausea and disgust in normal people.

        Haettenschweiler-font ... and the font is the font, it doesn’t matter what to write, the meaning is not important, it’s his job to scribble the paper ...
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 29 January 2016 18: 53
          0
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Haettenschweiler-font ... and the font is the font, it doesn’t matter what to write, the meaning is not important, it’s his job to scribble the paper ...


          - And all this sad pathetics only because I do not approve of Mr. Kadyrov in his own favorite style. It's a shame, comrades.
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 04
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          l, his job is to scum the paper ...

          And most likely not for free!
          1. Haettenschweiler
            Haettenschweiler 1 February 2016 20: 09
            0
            Quote: Tol100v
            And most likely not for free!


            - You bet, place your bets. Who pays me? CIA? State Department? Mossad? Mi-6? VNAUKRAINE? !! And most importantly, tell me someone, if I am "paid" - why I have almost nothing for my soul. And if they don't pay - and I still have almost nothing for my soul - why on earth should I not just love, but at least have a neutral attitude towards the Bloodsucker of All Russia - Kadyrov? Well, and the rest of the watering gang, the Chubais there with the Putin, the Gref with the Siluanov ... your patriotism is strange. Ah, we bombed Syria! Well, great. And in my city there were no pediatric doctors, and no, and will not be. I'm not even talking about roads, so that children can be transported to "regional centers" - this is not always possible on a hellish whip carrier. But Ramzan is a krosaffcheg !!! adynadynadyn Worse than children, by God ...
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    3. Blondy
      Blondy 28 January 2016 06: 39
      29
      They may call themselves as pleasing, even if they have unsystematic opposition, but if they take money over the hill, then, according to Russian laws, they are not necessarily spies, but foreign agents — which the Russian public must inform, according to the same Russian laws
      1. ava09
        ava09 28 January 2016 07: 54
        11
        In decent countries (the USSR, for example) foreign agents smeared their foreheads with greens, because then the goals of the West were, unlike today's Russia, known to everyone.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 28 January 2016 09: 08
          +9
          ex-prime minister, who has been nicknamed “Misha 2%” since the prime minister’s times

          Now he is more likely "2% of Misha" - the former "power" is zero, so he comes out with liberal saliva, in the hope of returning his significance. Only, I am sure, in the West he will only play the role of a "doormat" - they will squeeze it out properly and throw it away as unnecessary.
          1. kartalovkolya
            kartalovkolya 28 January 2016 09: 59
            +7
            Yes, Misha-2% is fussing because VVP proposed to seize property acquired by officials of all levels dishonestly, and Kasyanov is the most "honest of thieves" who have ever been in the Russian power structures! Liberal Democrat "so much has been stolen that the Investigative Committee of the Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation will have to work tirelessly, so the poor fellow" squealed "feeling that soon his" nuts "would be squeezed into a vice (or even torn off)!
          2. bhdir1946
            bhdir1946 28 January 2016 12: 43
            +1
            Where did the expression "2%" come from? A lot on this topic of conversation, specifically who knows?
            1. Cap.Morgan
              Cap.Morgan 28 January 2016 20: 59
              +4
              As prime minister, Kasyanov demanded 2% of any transaction to which he had a relationship.
              It is interesting that they pressed him by threatening to confiscate the cottage in one Moscow forest park which Kasyanov illegally built and appropriated.
          3. tol100v
            tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 10
            +1
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            - squeezed out properly and thrown out as unnecessary.

            They needed him when he was in power, and now he has spent material! Another is not very clear to me how the Hostayna media is freely released from the country. But if released, then DO NOT RETURN back, let the campaigns west!
        2. Old old
          Old old 30 January 2016 22: 13
          +3
          In decent countries (the USSR, for example) foreign agents smeared their foreheads with greens, because then the goals of the West were, unlike today's Russia, known to everyone.

          For example, in the United States there is the "Logan Act" - "any citizen of the United States, wherever he is, has no right to communicate with foreign authorities in order to influence their decision-making in relation to the United States or interfere in disputes that exist between the United States and this state ". Such actions are considered a serious federal crime, punishable by up to three years in prison.
          It is high time for our deputies to adopt a similar law to counter the "white swamps".
      2. bhdir1946
        bhdir1946 28 January 2016 12: 41
        0
        Surely, free cheese is only in a mousetrap. It’s hard to understand how a neighbor can complain about his family? And, most importantly, to which neighbor?
      3. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 28 January 2016 15: 54
        0
        Well, if they take money over the hill, then just right put them in striped
        Robot convict and Kasyanov foreman.
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 12
          0
          Quote: go21zd45few
          Well, if they take money over the hill, then just put them on

          Just right in a wooden pea jacket!
    4. Finches
      Finches 28 January 2016 09: 37
      +3
      Such insignificant personalities are all these Kasyanovs, that one simply wonders how Europeans like to mess around with such crap crap at the same time as Saint Yabukentiy ... What you just won’t go to do to annoy Russia! laughing

      Although, for example, the Anglo-Saxons never differed in moral cleanliness!
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 28 January 2016 06: 12
    16
    This is the second time that large-scale criminals decide to invest in Russian “swamps”, in order to then try again to gain access to Russian finances and mineral resources.


    Is there a bottom at the abyss of betrayal of his country ... to what baseness can KASYANOV and others like him strive to make citizens of the country in which they live badly?
    Sometimes it seems to me everything that happens is outright absurd and surrealism.
    In front of our eyes, the ex-prime minister is betraying the interests of his country ... and with complete impunity he will then live next to us ... madhouse.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 28 January 2016 06: 31
      +3
      I’m wondering how much he earns from his activities? I’m not a fan of counting money in someone else’s pocket, but I wonder how much is the betrayal of the Motherland now? How financially attractive is this? Or do all experiences live from hand to mouth and try to destroy our country solely out of harm?
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 28 January 2016 06: 41
        +4
        Quote: Pereira
        I’m wondering how much he earns from his activities?

        2% for which some officials have already sat down. This is the Kasyanov norm for signing. And the State Department knows how much he takes for the sale of Russia. There is a whole bunch of articles against him, from participation in the organized crime group to betrayal.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 28 January 2016 07: 09
          +7
          Quote: Pereira
          I’m wondering how much he earns from his activities?

          There is such a specialty - “professional revolutionaries” and “professional oppositionists”, whose task is to surrender their country under the external control of foreign powers. They, in fact, trade in their country and earn on it very decently - they are enough for a beautiful full life. And although their “sales” are very ephemeral, they ask foreign buyers for money, potential beneficiaries, forwards. And the money they usually give. The more nabolta and promise, the more money will receive. So they, as a professional political crooks, do not live in misery. True, then foreigners ask them for the result of the promise, and if it isn’t there, then they won’t be envied - they can simply be shot or settled somewhere on the bridge in some capital.
          1. bhdir1946
            bhdir1946 28 January 2016 12: 47
            0
            If in this category, then who are those who destroyed the USSR, plundered everything and everyone?
          2. Orionvit
            Orionvit 28 January 2016 16: 54
            +4
            "Professional revolutionaries" and "professional oppositionists" This is primarily the field of psychiatry. Moreover, the disease "professional revolutionary" is not cured and is inherited. JV Stalin knew this very well, and he treated this disease radically. This category of citizens also has another name, "permanent Trotskyists."
            1. the villain
              the villain 28 January 2016 22: 19
              0
              Quote: Orionvit
              This category of citizens also has another name, "permanent Trotskyists."

              And it can only be treated surgically, with the help of a non-permanent ice ax am
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 24
          0
          Quote: Amurets
          to betrayal.

          No one has yet canceled the article about treason to the Motherland! And the crime will be enough for life! But where is the Court?
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      3. 2С5
        2С5 28 January 2016 08: 44
        +3
        ... Danuna, dear! They are exclusively paid fighters, it was not for nothing that they raised a howl after the closure of several "amerofonds" in Russia ... well, not that, of course, fighters, but so-simply "" titties and asking "" titties ... who pays, he dances them and they cannot understand that there are real patriots who are rooting for their homeland with their souls, therefore they spit with poison and rush in all directions ... why do they do what the owner ordered, and sometimes they themselves show initiative (mostly verbally ) and sit on their hind legs waiting for a handout or pendel ... well, again, at the discretion of the owner hi
    2. zgd_se_1955
      zgd_se_1955 28 January 2016 07: 23
      +4
      Kasyanov’s end will be the same as that of Nemtsov ...
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    4. SOB
      SOB 28 January 2016 15: 07
      0
      The bottom of the abyss is allegorical, and so is the wall.
  3. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 28 January 2016 06: 14
    +6
    Mr., nus-already Dzhemilev has promised to return Crimea to Ukraine (though "if he is elected president.) I don't even know that Russia has already grown wiser.
    1. Altona
      Altona 28 January 2016 15: 16
      +8
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Mr., nus-already Dzhemilev has promised to return Crimea to Ukraine (though "if he is elected president.) I don't even know that Russia has already grown wiser.

      ---------------------
      In the photo is Fir Grandfather and a horse in a coat. laughing
      1. quote
        quote 28 January 2016 16: 43
        +5
        Near the place of residence of Kasyanov, what bridge is there?
        I'm waiting !!!
  4. veteran56
    veteran56 28 January 2016 06: 15
    +7
    Yes, when will this "finished brute" be deprived of citizenship?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 January 2016 06: 17
      +9
      Quote: veteran56
      Yes, when will this "finished brute" be deprived of citizenship?

      And I’ll be more pleased when they put him in prison. There he has the right place.
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 28 January 2016 06: 38
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And I’ll be more pleased when they put him in prison. There he has the right place.


        Good day, Alexander! It is necessary not to plant it, but to send it into oblivion so that the environment does not spoil.
      2. 2С5
        2С5 28 January 2016 08: 46
        0
        ... it is not necessary to deprive him of citizenship, but .... lol
        1. the villain
          the villain 28 January 2016 22: 24
          0
          Quote: 2C5
          ... it is not necessary to deprive him of citizenship, but .... lol

          All that is gained by overwork. This is for him, I think, it will be easier to shoot.
      3. tol100v
        tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 32
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .There is the place for him.

        Z.K. He will be explained where his place is!
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 30
      0
      Quote: veteran56
      Yes, when will this "finished brute" be deprived of citizenship?

      It is not necessary to deprive of citizenship (he has never been a citizen), but of a completely different thing, which he does not deserve for his foul affairs!
  5. Jarilo
    Jarilo 28 January 2016 06: 15
    +6
    Kasyanov is an off-system opposition of Russia. There were people in opposition to the authorities, but they did nothing against Russia because they loved their homeland, and they are ready to sell this scumbag for a penny.
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 28 January 2016 06: 22
      -19 qualifying.
      - Yes, only they were closed or liquidated, because they represented a real threat to the Kremlin clique. It is precisely because of the caricature and insignificance of the current position that they do not touch it. Threats - zero, but there is an appearance of "democracy".
      1. Jarilo
        Jarilo 28 January 2016 06: 37
        +4
        And what are the ultra-liberals doing in Ukraine now?
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      3. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 28 January 2016 06: 44
        12
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        - Yes, only they were closed or liquidated, because they represented a real threat to the Kremlin clique. It is precisely because of the caricature and insignificance of the current position that they do not touch it. Threats - zero, but there is an appearance of "democracy".

        Is it possible to announce the entire list of these "innocent" victims of democracy fighters? That would not be unfounded.
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 28 January 2016 07: 35
          -4
          Quote: Kos_kalinki9
          Is it possible to announce the entire list of these "innocent" victims of democracy fighters? That would not be unfounded.


          - Firstly, they did not suffer for "democracy", and secondly, there are no "innocents" in principle when it comes to politics (yes, yes, even the "all-great Putin" is one hundred percent smeared in dark deeds), but thirdly, I do not have the slightest desire to breed the discussion with a transition to personalities. I outlined my opinion: the current "opposition" is not touched because it is caricatured, not dangerous and allows one to talk about "freedom of speech and conscience" in Russia, because it is still not "closed." You can write down everything else to me in the negative - I am unfounded, lazy, unpatriotic and so on. The box with labels will never be empty.
          1. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 28 January 2016 07: 46
            +3
            Well, suppose I didn’t hang labels for you.
            The current "opposition" is half pocket - I almost agree.
            But OPPOSITIONER M.Kasyanov is a non-systemic oppositionist, a real oppositionist, because he sells his homeland wholesale and retail?
            And what did the real oppositionists suffer for if not for "democracy"?
            Sorry for more questions than answers.
            1. Haettenschweiler
              Haettenschweiler 28 January 2016 16: 22
              -1
              Quote: Kos_kalinki9
              Well, suppose I didn’t hang labels for you.
              The current "opposition" is half pocket - I almost agree.
              But OPPOSITIONER M.Kasyanov is a non-systemic oppositionist, a real oppositionist, because he sells his homeland wholesale and retail?
              And what did the real oppositionists suffer for if not for "democracy"?
              Sorry for more questions than answers.


              - Sorry, I probably got excited about the labels. Although, for her, this is much more common than a calm and equally respectful conversation between two adults. However, this trouble is not only and not so much "VO". Frankly, I do not know what exactly the term "non-systemic opposition" means. I can’t even say that I’m in any way interested in it. In my deep inner conviction, you need to look at the person who offers some solutions and programs, at these very programs and ways of their implementation. This is how the demonization of a particular character happens: we form a negative image of a certain community, then we assign the character to this community, and then everything happens as if by itself. However, even schoolchildren will have no illusions about Kasyanov - as they say, there is nowhere to put a sample. But he was a member of the Federation government and had a lot of benefits from it, right? Nobody even thought to "drown" him while he was on duty. Here is some information about him, if anyone is interested: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%8C%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%BE % D0% B2, _
              %D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BB_%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB%D0%BE%
              D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

              - And only Americans can suffer for "democracy". There are hardly those among us who perceive it in itself as a great value. What matters is what it can (or cannot) give us. And if any good runs counter to democratic principles - my belief is that they can and should be waived. For example, is it good or bad to appoint governors not by elections, but by decision of Moscow? Democracy or not?
              1. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 29 January 2016 10: 31
                0
                But what about the option for you - not direct elections of the governor, and not an appointment from Moscow, but free election by the regional councils after the normal elections?
                1. Haettenschweiler
                  Haettenschweiler 29 January 2016 20: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: Sergej1972
                  But what about the option for you - not direct elections of the governor, and not an appointment from Moscow, but free election by the regional councils after the normal elections?


                  - A huge field for abuse. First, again tons of money will be spent on nothing, on exhausting into the air in the form of an "electoral race." Secondly, this is one hundred percent pressure on the regional councils from the candidates - which means that we again spend money, people and time to protect the latter, and at the end we get a lot of dissatisfied people who will be sure that the elections were rigged if their candidate loses ... Remember how it was in the last presidential election? In principle, even a child could understand who would win (and I am not being ironic at all - Putin, in my opinion, really won peacefully without any falsifications), but the election commissions set up cameras, crowds of observers were prancing back and forth, somewhere. then they covered it "hot", somewhere they prevented someone from "throwing it in", that is, the measures were generally epic. And all the same, the “opposition” was terribly offended after the loss and started shouting about “falsifications”. And hr ... n you will convince them!
          2. tol100v
            tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 36
            -1
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            . You can write down the rest to me in a minus -

            Even minus the disgusting! You are not even a BAR, but just a barcode!
      4. Pereira
        Pereira 28 January 2016 08: 20
        0
        I will say more, looking at these people they think that there can be no other opposition, that the opposition is exclusively corrupt (the definition has been deleted by censorship).
        This is a very powerful PR move. Now anyone who criticizes the authorities is suspected of serving the State Department.
        1. Old old
          Old old 30 January 2016 23: 02
          0
          Now anyone who criticizes the authorities is suspected of serving the State Department.

          Criticizing the government and pouring mud on the government, the country, the people are two different things.
      5. your1970
        your1970 31 January 2016 16: 40
        0
        "Precisely because of the caricature and insignificance of the current position"
        Those. do you agree that these specific comrades (Kasyanov, Kasparov, Navalny, Prokhorov, etc.) - insignificants who can only take money and yap, and even if they get to any post in the Russian Federation - will not benefit the country? understand you correctly?
        then it is not clear why you are being minus - if you agree that the current "rabble are ready to sell for a penny."
    2. Serg koma
      Serg koma 28 January 2016 06: 34
      +5
      In Russia, there have always been Vlasovs, Krasnovs, Kulagins, etc. . But there was Anton Ivanovich Denikin, my class enemy, in front of whom I hi
      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma 28 January 2016 12: 02
        0
        28.01.2016 |
        In Strasbourg, Presidential Plenipotentiary for the Crimean Tatar People Mustafa Dzhemilev met with the leader of the opposition Russian People’s Freedom Party, former Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov.
        "Accept my assurances that Crimea will ultimately be liberated and returned to Ukraine", - said Mikhail Kasyanov
        - No comments
      2. Pereira
        Pereira 28 January 2016 15: 00
        +1
        Denikin was not a class enemy. His ancestors are serfs. Ironically, his personal co-interest interests were on the other side of the front.
    3. AK64
      AK64 28 January 2016 07: 48
      -8
      and they’re ready to sell this scum for a penny.


      Yes Yes. Those who are now in power are the ones who are in power, but they won’t sell it: they will sell it for two pennies, or even three.

      What did your authorities do besides deindustrializing the country, turning the country into a sales market and trading its resources (that is, according to Stalin, trading in the Motherland)?
      But they are not rabble, not - they sell for two pennies
    4. bhdir1946
      bhdir1946 28 January 2016 12: 51
      +2
      Exactly! Love the Motherland, while negatively related to the State, these are two big differences
  6. warriordima
    warriordima 28 January 2016 06: 20
    +1
    All to hard labor!
    1. Delink
      Delink 28 January 2016 06: 25
      +3
      Why to hard labor right away!
      Deprive citizenship while they are abroad and prohibit further entry into the territory of the Russian Federation.
      The passport automatically becomes fake upon presentation.
      1. asiat_61
        asiat_61 28 January 2016 06: 39
        0
        Because of the constitution, however.
      2. andj61
        andj61 28 January 2016 08: 01
        +5
        Quote: Delink
        Deprive citizenship while they are abroad and prohibit further entry into the territory of the Russian Federation.
        The passport automatically becomes fake upon presentation.

        For the time being, it is impossible by law to deny citizenship. But canceling a passport is easy! By the way, the United States did the same with Snowden at the time ...
    2. asiat_61
      asiat_61 28 January 2016 06: 41
      0
      Still, it’s better, as they say in the Aglitz court: .. You will be hanged, and certainly by the neck ...
    3. Old old
      Old old 30 January 2016 22: 30
      0
      All to hard labor!
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 28 January 2016 06: 28
    +1
    Mikhail Kasyanov- Are you the homeland, wholesale or retail?
  8. Darkboy2012
    Darkboy2012 28 January 2016 06: 29
    +2
    get together more often - we remember everyone ... am
    1. rusmat73
      rusmat73 28 January 2016 10: 08
      +1
      you also need the confiscation of their property and bank accounts - the Anglo-Saxons with their own weapons! and more INFORMATION about each figure with a description of all the dark affairs !!! And the vocabulary diarrhea of ​​this column against our homeland will begin to decline instantly! yes
      then their electorate to remember and write down! so that the Motherland knows what trash is hanging out and is torn in the salvors of Russia! got these rescuers am
      we now need to raise our homeland - to plow !!! and verbiage is not interesting to us hi
    2. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 28 January 2016 22: 00
      +2
      Quote: Darkboy2012
      get together more often - we remember everyone ... am
  9. oldav
    oldav 28 January 2016 06: 30
    +2
    Our opposition is Putin's plan. Promote degenerates, realizing that their people will never support. And the West bucks money in them, not realizing that there is no sense in them. Real opposition must be created from representatives of the people, not from stealing officials.
  10. Serg koma
    Serg koma 28 January 2016 06: 30
    0
    Oh, Turchinov and dill on him no laughing
  11. Neophyte
    Neophyte 28 January 2016 06: 33
    +2
    And VVP continues to be quietly silent and wait for the traitors to come to their senses? The chance of depriving the passports of those who lost their citizenship Mishka-2% with the company? And would these "sufferers" sit on suitcases at the airport, as a famous character from the movie "Italians in Russia" !
  12. KOH
    KOH 28 January 2016 06: 35
    +1
    How much you can endure this bastard, so the hunt for their face to soap, or a rope ...
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 28 January 2016 10: 44
      +8
      Quote: CON
      How much you can endure this bastard, so the hunt for their face to soap, or a rope ...

      Rope with soap still translate to this shell .... Soon they themselves will reach for a cardon with trunks
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 43
      0
      Quote: CON
      How much you can endure this bastard, so the hunt for their face to soap, or a rope ...

      Immediately - no! Only by the decision of the TRIBUNAL!
  13. emercom1979
    emercom1979 28 January 2016 06: 40
    +5
    The opposition should criticize the authorities. Point out flaws, propose solutions, but do it for the good of the motherland and only in the homeland, and not at the expense of the enemy and under his dictation. And those who go to these forums are just traitors. 10 years without the right of correspondence and the construction of roads or forests fell.
  14. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 28 January 2016 06: 42
    +2
    Doesn't Kasyanov violate the country's criminal code with his statements? Lawyers, why are we silent? The president, why is this all calling itself the opposition still at liberty? If planting enemies of the country “is not our method,” then use ours, walk them over the bridges of Moscow ...
    1. KOH
      KOH 28 January 2016 07: 02
      +2
      So this inaction also leads to the fact that they are shooting at bridges ..., they were tired of people before, such a hunch that there will be more sacred victims ...))))
  15. bad
    bad 28 January 2016 06: 47
    +3
    Apparently, the closeness of this institution helped the ex-prime minister of the Russian Federation, who was accompanied by such persons as Vladimir Kara-Murza, Olga Shorina, Vadim Prokhorov and Zhanna Nemtsova in Strasbourg, to talk about the possibility of financing the Russian ultra-liberal project, the leader of which Monsieur Kasyanov considers himself . After the murder of Boris Nemtsov, Mr. Kasyanov is increasingly trying on the “uniform” of the main Russian “off-system opposition”.
    ... if only this "cute" campache would have a seagull with polonium .. repeat
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 46
      0
      Quote: bad
      ... if only this "cute" campache would have a seagull with polonium ..

      And with candies "Assorti" from Sudoplatov!
  16. socol562
    socol562 28 January 2016 06: 55
    +3
    In general, in our country they are very strange about such shifters. Although there is a shortage of personnel in difficult and harmful work. It is necessary to help them earn extra money and bring the other world closer there everyone is equal.
  17. lablizn
    lablizn 28 January 2016 06: 57
    +2
    The choice of a place for meetings of the so-called. "opposition" is quite eloquent: Bolotnaya Square. According to Russian mythology, kikimors, goblin and other evil spirits are found in the swamp. Characteristic, however!
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 January 2016 07: 00
    +5
    Quote: Haettenschweiler
    yes, only they were closed or liquidated, because they represented a real threat to the Kremlin clique

    Again "innocent victims" of fighters against the authorities, signs 37 and further on the list. It's not even funny anymore. The way our "liberals" feel at ease, no one else in other countries feels.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 47
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      in other countries does not feel.

      In the SGA would have already skipped deadlines!
  19. boris-1230
    boris-1230 28 January 2016 07: 40
    +3
    It's a shame that Kasyanov is not in prison, openly talked about his theft on a huge scale. He appropriated the land, and when asked how it happened, he answered: that you should show the master class how it is now done. They prefer to take care of such people here: stools with Vasilyevs, Chubais, Kasyanovs, Khodorkovsky, who, after almost 20 years, were finally charged with the murder of Petukhov and others. Such a power ..
  20. nivander
    nivander 28 January 2016 07: 48
    10
    dull and corrupt bores
  21. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 28 January 2016 07: 50
    +1
    Shoot it like a mad dog and forget it. One nits already banged and forgotten. So this one even at the construction sites of the Arctic is not needed. Gathered a company of fetid nits.
    At the expense of the enemy!
  22. alex52
    alex52 28 January 2016 08: 02
    +5
    an employee admitted to state secrets, and the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation has access of at least 1 level, is limited in trips abroad. Kasyanov et al. - untouchable? or is there no reason for a criminal investigation and preventing the dissemination of classified information? We also want, but my appeal, of course, will not be shown
  23. alex52
    alex52 28 January 2016 08: 07
    -1
    I’ll add to the previous comment for European consumers - they probably let him talk to you because he signed a cooperation agreement with the FSB (or your favorite KGB?). I give a tip!
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 30 January 2016 21: 56
      0
      Quote: alex52
      l because he signed a cooperation agreement with the FSB

      Such female mammals (QMS) are not kept in the FSB!
  24. 31rus
    31rus 28 January 2016 08: 07
    +1
    Dear, and that only Kasyanov, but there is a dime a dozen of them, and even with support in Russia, that's the trouble, the house needs order, the thief must sit, the enemy must be destroyed, the game of "fake democracy" will produce many more such " figures ", but in fact a thief
  25. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 28 January 2016 08: 49
    +4
    “After the assassination of Boris Nemtsov, Mr. Kasyanov is increasingly trying on the“ uniform ”of Russia's main“ non-systemic oppositionist ”.
    Scarf Berezovsky, it’s better to try it on, or walk along the bridge near the Kremlin walls more often. Then his glory will overtake.
  26. Combitor
    Combitor 28 January 2016 08: 50
    +9
    As I understand it, Nemtsov’s laurels are haunted by all these Kasyanov-Khakamads. In their asses it’s overwhelming - passion, as they want to keep Bora company. So what's the deal? Bridges, perhaps not enough?
  27. morituri
    morituri 28 January 2016 09: 05
    +3
    Thanks for the good article. The obvious dullness and venality of this gang as, forgive me, vomit on the PACE jacket, this "assembly of jackals" no longer knows what to do while fulfilling the master's order. The point is not in Kasyanov and his dog, but in the fact that the Europoliticans do not have a worthy candidate who can be raised as a banner of struggle against Putin. This forces them to invite traitors, prostitutes and criminals. The cynicism of not understanding that the European parliamentary platform is dousing itself with such actions as it strikes with filth. As for these renegades, I think - don’t touch GUANO, they won’t stink, this means that they must and should be discussed, but by acting against them (outside the law) we will only add to them political brightness and variegation - this is exactly what is expected. We need a clear assessment of their "activity" by the court of the Russian Federation and real actions to bring to justice for "backbreaking work for the good of Russia" !!!
  28. surrozh
    surrozh 28 January 2016 09: 09
    0
    An interesting carousel: 90s: ruble fall - privatization - prime minister (Kasyanov) - Browder; 2016: ruble fall - privatization - prime minister (?) - again Browder.
  29. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 28 January 2016 09: 12
    +1
    After the murder of Boris Nemtsov, Mr. Kasyanov is increasingly trying on the “uniform” of the main Russian “off-system opposition”


    Isn't he trying on a wooden "uniform"?
  30. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 28 January 2016 09: 38
    +2
    I would very much like to live up to the moment when the corresponding services will be told "Fas!" I hope Ramzan will also take part in this fun.
  31. sir_obs
    sir_obs 28 January 2016 09: 58
    +2
    It has long been time to systematize the non-systemic opposition in one closed institution. And let them ask for money for their maintenance from there.
  32. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 28 January 2016 10: 08
    +1
    This PACE organization is a very strange organization: Russia was deprived of the right to vote and at the same time they demand a monetary contribution; and HOO-HOO not HO-HO, why should we feed our enemies with our money and also to throw mud at Russia for its own money ?! She died, so she died, and as Ilf and Petrov say, they act according to the principle: "... money in the morning, chairs in the evening, but is it possible the other way around? You can, only money in advance!" Only because all kinds of crooks, thieves and It is time for the scammers to send this "pack" to one well-known address, in short "GO to X--!" and only there! And for the money gentlemen - come the day before yesterday!
  33. Neko75
    Neko75 28 January 2016 10: 25
    +1
    It's time to put all the liberals headed by Kasyanov against the wall! They do not work and disturb others! They sit on the grants and handouts of the West, roughly speaking, they are paid for trying to undermine Russia from the inside. Kasyanov does not miss a single reception at the American embassy. This is not the opposition, these are traitors with passports of Great Britain, Switzerland and the USA.
  34. Eastern wind
    Eastern wind 28 January 2016 10: 30
    +1
    Oh, to spend them on the Moskvoretsky bridge, but at the very quiet little night ...
    1. the villain
      the villain 28 January 2016 22: 41
      0
      Quote: East Wind
      Oh, to spend them on the Moskvoretsky bridge, but at the very quiet little night ...

      And after that
  35. The Sparkle
    The Sparkle 28 January 2016 10: 37
    +1
    When one of the former senior officials / secret information carrier / runs into the camp of the enemy - there is only one way out: Remove the moratorium on the death penalty and bring him to trial for treason! Or just help him break his neck when falling from the stairs.
  36. am808s
    am808s 28 January 2016 10: 42
    +1
    Why does it seem to me that liberal squeals are starting to work for Russia? The more they spoil, the more cohesive the patriotic part of the population becomes and does not frighten 37 years for liberalists and that Kadyrov will become a receiver of GDP. In Russia, the need for firmness of power is increasingly felt.
  37. Yasondinalt
    Yasondinalt 28 January 2016 10: 46
    +2
    When will "Bears in the North" come into fashion again?
  38. koshmarik
    koshmarik 28 January 2016 11: 00
    +2
    The level of PACE and its political influence are consistent with the level of delegates invited to its session. In my opinion, Russia should return to this body, which is useless for Europe, only after it is strongly asked.
  39. gam1111
    gam1111 28 January 2016 11: 03
    -5
    I just can’t understand - the article is biased to insanity or mean to stupidity ?? )))))
    1. Avtopilot
      Avtopilot 28 January 2016 22: 58
      0
      the enemy is appointed, atu evo!))))
    2. Avtopilot
      Avtopilot 28 January 2016 22: 58
      0
      the enemy is appointed, atu evo!))))
  40. Chera
    Chera 28 January 2016 11: 07
    +1
    And he says that he is not an enemy of the people ??
  41. valokordin
    valokordin 28 January 2016 11: 36
    +2
    I completely agree with Volodin, one thing just infuriates me why Vasilyeva, Serdyukov and others are not 37 years old, why Misha uses 2% for theft and corruption and goes to Europe, Chubais is cutting billions of the budget, the Minister of Education rivets oligophrenics, and patriots are in prison on trumped-up charges, even those acquitted are put in a cage immediately after leaving the courtroom. Fair ?, or is diplomacy the art of the possible?
  42. izya top
    izya top 28 January 2016 11: 46
    +2
    Russian ultraliberal project, whose leader Monsieur Kasyanov considers himself. After the murder of Boris Nemtsov, Mr. Kasyanov is increasingly trying on the “uniform” of the main Russian “off-system opposition”.
    uh, and lehaim oval kuda? or is he not the main non-prolific one?
  43. uav80
    uav80 28 January 2016 12: 07
    +3
    I think that with his promise to Dzhamilev to return Crimea to Ukraine, Kasyanov hammered the last nail into the coffin of his political career in the Russian Federation, and it was necessary to blaspheme this way even half a year before the elections ...
    PS: although maybe he, like Mishiko, aims at what thread the chair in the country 404 ...
  44. Old Siberian
    Old Siberian 28 January 2016 12: 40
    +2
    Maybe some European Kasyanov will marry and he will calm down.
  45. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 28 January 2016 12: 47
    +2
    The people of Russia have not forgotten how liberals under Elzin spread rot in Russia in a row: industry, agriculture, education, etc. etc.
    And liberal Gref would rather be silent - he would be smart.
    Therefore, their chances of elections are zero.
  46. Alex Xorkam
    Alex Xorkam 28 January 2016 13: 20
    +4
    Kasyanov is not a liberal, he is an ordinary very cheap political prostitute. Unfortunately, prostitution is not criminally punishable. Liberast has at least some ideas, but here it is ... have, but only pay.
    He has no other, even primitive idea.
  47. lis-ik
    lis-ik 28 January 2016 13: 33
    +4
    Frankly speaking, the term coined by the media as "non-systemic opposition" must be replaced, since if you are outside the system, namely the state legal field, or rather, you call for the collapse of the country, a coup, etc., then you are no longer an oppositionist, but an elementary criminal, let's call a spade a spade!
  48. Karlos
    Karlos 28 January 2016 16: 06
    +1
    I noticed: as soon as someone is torn from the feeder, (budget and other kickbacks), in a moment they become the opposition.
  49. Gypsy girl
    Gypsy girl 28 January 2016 16: 26
    +1
    Yeah, opposition Er 2%. A little walk on the bridge?
  50. Orionvit
    Orionvit 28 January 2016 16: 37
    -1
    Quote: morituri
    To call the head of one of the Russian republics with such words is the height of underdevelopment smelling of racism and incitement, you know what kind of hatred. And in general, talking about someone as a "living creature", and classifying yourself as "normal people" is fascism!

    And you are not a liberal case yourself? From such Russian republics, so far there have been only problems.