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Because of the book on the genocide of Jews in Lithuania, relatives and friends turned away from the author (Delfi.lv, Latvia).

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“I have fulfilled my duty to my homeland”


Because of the book on the genocide of Jews in Lithuania, relatives and friends turned away from the author (Delfi.lv, Latvia).

Illiterate Lithuanians in sober mind and hard memory so diligently killed Jews, that they were brought to Lithuania for extermination from other countries. Schoolchildren also volunteered to take part in the killings, and the Church indifferently observed the Holocaust — even the slayers were absolved. For the sake of the purity of the race and the Jewish teeth, about 200 000 Jews were killed in Lithuania.

Because of the book on the genocide of Jews in Lithuania, relatives and friends turned away from the author

These conclusions were reached by Rūta Vanaguayta, who wrote the book “Mūsiškiai” (“Ours”). An important part of the book is “Journey with the enemy,” in which Vanaguite with the famous Nazi hunter Ephraim Zuroff embarks on a journey to places where Jews were killed and communicates with the surviving eyewitnesses of those events.

“I know that Lithuania did not wait for this book. That's why I wrote it. ” These are your words. Have you already encountered a negative reaction?

“Priest Richardas Doveika told me that all doors would close in front of my nose.” From the very beginning I faced a negative reaction - my relatives said that I was betraying relatives and I am Pavlik Morozov. Several friends turned away from me altogether - they said that the Jews pay me, and I betray the Motherland.

I needed a lot of courage. I asked my children, 20 and 28, if I was writing a book like this. They said that on 120% they support me. But some friends warned me that I would be left without readers who love me for books about caring for old people and women. I wondered why I should think about commerce. I see that no one else will write such a book.

- Why do you think that no one else will write? Are you afraid of this topic?

- To such an extent they are afraid that I am confronted with absolute panic - from the institutions of power to the villagers. For six months, I met only a few people who were not afraid. Even historians in the park had to meet on a bench ... I cannot quote some historians - they do not want to, one said that from now on he would not lecture on this topic - it is dangerous.

- Where does this fear come from? Lithuania reconciled with Israel; in 1995, President Algirdas Brazauskas apologized to the Jewish people, despite the fact that he was zealously criticized for it.

- They made peace with Israel so that he would not raise this topic. For this, Lithuania will support Israel in the UN. This is politics. Even the Israeli ambassador, having seen Zuroff in Lithuania, told him - why are you driving here, will you spoil the mood of people. Even the Jewish community does not raise this topic, neither Israel nor Lithuania raises, and there are practically no eyewitnesses to those events. And there is no money for research.

Yes, Brazauskas was convicted. I think he later regretted doing so. He promised to identify and name the killers, but they did not. Here in 2012, the Lithuanian Center for the Investigation of Residents' Genocide and Resistance made a list of 2055 people who might have been involved in the genocide. The list has been transferred to the government. Where is he now?

I went to the vice-chancellor of the government and said that something had to be done with this list, because he couldn’t lie for 5 for years. I was told that whatever we do, everything is not enough for the Jews. And this list goes on.

- Maybe everyone has already investigated and evaluated?

- I read the books of all Lithuanian historians - all claim that the Holocaust was observed in the province throughout Lithuania. We think that only in Paneriai - no, the whole province of Lithuania is littered with Jewish graves, people were destroyed. This is a white spot in our historiography. Why not investigated? There are only a few historians who do this - I was told that for five years 5 had to work for years to find out how many Lithuanians participated in the Holocaust. No five people and 5 years.

Zuroff and I drove through the whole of Lithuania - people who have seen and remembered the Holocaust are now 85-90 for years. How long will we wait?

- It is no secret that Zuroff in Lithuania is hated and he himself, to put it mildly, does not burn with love to us. How did you persuade him to go on a “journey” in Lithuania?

“In the spring I was preparing the conference, all the historians told me not to invite Zuroff - if he will, they would refuse to participate, because he might cry, start a fight.” It became very interesting to me. When he came to participate in the marches of the neo-Nazis, I met him. I asked him if he was working for Putin, and he asked me if I was doing Jewish projects for money.

I replied that among my relatives there were people who, I suspect, participated in the Holocaust. He said that in 25 years he had met the first person in Lithuania who recognized this. I told him - you are attacking Lithuania, so let's get into my car and drive around Lithuania, talk to people, see who is right. Since I do not know this.

He agreed, the trip lasted three weeks. We agreed to pay for gasoline equally.

- What did you saw? How many doors are closed in front of your nose?

- Most people said, but did not agree to be photographed and give their names. Others were afraid - they said they would come and kill. Who will kill? Lithuanians! They know that in most cases Jews were escorted, guarded or killed by their fathers or grandfathers of their neighbors. So they betray their neighbors. But remember very well.

- In an interview published in the book, Zuroff says that Lithuania is extraordinarily beautiful, but its beautiful forests hide several hundred places of massacres. When traveling in Lithuania, you can see signs indicating such places - Lithuania, at least, took care of this.

- But you will turn there, and you will see nothing. There is a pointer, and then you can wander through the woods, and nothing. But there are not specified places. I said Zuroff - we are not rich enough to look after 227 in places. He replied, it was necessary to watch when they were shot.

Zuroff cried in every place. I had to wait while he read the prayer. And then I thought - there are thousands of bones under the ground, these places are not marked. Later I could not calmly look at Lithuanian graves. It seemed too great importance to everything, everything is so theatrical.

I read the exhumation protocols — a lot of children with intact skulls — so they were buried alive. In the book there is a testimony of a military man - his father lay face down in a pit, covering the child. The military man was asked - who was the first to be shot - at the father or at the child? He replied: “What are we animals, perhaps, to shoot a child in front of my father?” Of course, a father. The child does not understand anything. "


- The book sounds terribly rhetorical about how many gold teeth were pulled out from the murdered Jews, melted down, and then used to make the teeth of the inhabitants of Joniškielis? This was about the murderer of the Jews, who then worked as a dental technician. Did the Lithuanians share the golden crowns of those killed?

- Not only in Joniškalis, many places. I remember, in Soviet times, when teeth were treated, they asked - will the gold be yours or mine? Where did dental technicians have gold? Where have all the gold crowns gone?

There is an even more interesting moment. I inherited from my grandparents an antique bed, a wardrobe, a clock. I read that in all of Lithuania there were about 50 000 Jewish houses, plus synagogues, shops, hospitals. Where did all this property go? All Lithuania has grown rich.

I read that in Panevezys things were handed over to the Drama Theater, a nursing home, a women's gymnasium, a hospital, and then sold off to residents. What failed to sell - distributed free of charge. When Jews were killed, in Panevezys there were 25 000 inhabitants, the things left after the murder of Jews were 80 000 - from bedding to cups. They were distributed free of charge. This means that every resident received for free several things.

My grandmother is from Panevezys, the bed is from Panevezys. Did she buy it? I do not know. Did my mother wear any of those clothes? All in Lithuania, who have antiques, we can ask where they came from.

The murderers of Jews were usually paid nothing, they took what they could, carried the sell or exchanged for vodka. It was their reward. in the evening they were returning home. Some had children - they came from work not empty-handed - they brought them some clothes, then something else.

- When you read a book, it seems that simple village guys were killed, who volunteered for the Lithuanian army.

- They went there themselves from nothing to do. Then there was such a logic: they were given food and shooting. And you can take clothes, shoes, chains of Jews, drink. Rimantas Zagryatskas conducted a study - a social portrait of the murderers of Jews - half of those who killed in the province - illiterate or graduated from two classes. Maybe if the Church took a different position or said that one of the commandments of God must be fulfilled - maybe it would stop them. But the Church was silent or did not call.

- When you read the memories of the murderers of the Jews, the conclusion is that the Germans did not force them to kill - they could refuse.

- First of all, these were volunteers - and white-wingers, who were volunteers. Some argued that they had been threatened with execution for refusal, but there is only one fact - a soldier who refused to kill was shot in Kaunas, in the valley of Mitskevičius.

The special detachment served 8 students of the craft school - 16-17 years. June came, there was nothing to do, they went to work - they were promised the things of the Jews. Summer is over, they left the squad. Is this violence - they themselves came, they themselves left.

In Lithuania, they say that they were forced to kill, to drink. Military Liaonas Stonkus said that if they saw that someone could not stand the nerves, the officers did not force them to shoot, they were afraid, as it were, against them weapon did not pay. And they did not drink - they gave after, in the evening, or very little - they were afraid that the commanders would not be shot. We can say that Jews were killed by young, illiterate and sober Lithuanians.

- They will attack you for the inconvenient truth and ask how you know what you rely on?

- In the book, I do not rely on any foreign source, only on what is said by Lithuanians and historians. I spent half a year in the Special Archive, read the cases, their confessions. Who will say that our boys were tortured and only after that they testified are stupid, no one talks about torture. One murderer of Jews complained of pain in his shoulder, took an x-ray, found out the cause, prescribed a massage and paraffin baths. It can be seen too much shot.

Secondly, the workers of the NKVD were consistent, accurate, each story of the murderer of the Jews was confirmed by the testimony of 15 persons, colleagues. Match every detail.

They all diminished their guilt. When asked how many times they participated in the shootings, they did not remember at first, then they remembered any one shooting, but in fact participated in 20 or 50. Everyone diminished his guilt because they did not want to sit. Many of the NKVD after the war were tried for convoy, and later 20-30 years, when it turned out that they were shooting, they were again arrested.

- In your opinion, to what extent has the tragedy been determined by the official position of the Lithuanian authorities?


- In many ways, determined. Many people say that the Lithuanian front of activists began, the provisional government continued, and then the Nazi accomplices continued: Kubiliunas, Raevitis, and others.

20 000 people worked in the Lithuanian administration: police officers, district police chiefs. Only 3% of them were Germans. A process was carried out by the Lithuanians. Of course, it was not the Lithuanians who planned, but they were told, they carried out, they did everything so well, that then they brought to Lithuania Jews from Austria and France.

In IX Fort, Jews from Austria and the Czech Republic were shot by 5000. Here they were taken to the vaccine - the Jews went into the pits with their sleeves rolled up in anticipation of vaccination. The Lithuanians worked so well that the battalion of Antanas Impulevicius was taken to Belarus - they killed 15 000 Jews. The Germans were very pleased.

- Where does such diligence come from? Many say - the Lithuanians suffered, the occupation was replaced by the occupation, we are not guilty, we suffered, we were taken to Siberia.

- Yes, this is true, but no one forced them to shoot people. There were volunteers, in part because of widespread anti-Semitism.

- So the Lithuanians killed Jews out of hate? However, it seems that until now the Lithuanians coexisted peacefully with the Jews.

- We had quite a few supporters of Voldemaras, nationalists who were influential army officers. Many of the murderers of Jews are aviators, associates of Darius and Girenas.

Under Smeton, the Jews could get along well, but when the Germans arrived, they were joined by Lithuanian nationalists, and everything became very simple. And anti-Semitism - everything went from Berlin, there was a hand of Goebbels there, the Lithuanians spread it. The first newspaper of the Provisional Government of Lithuania, “Towards Freedom,” wrote down Jews, their corpses is our path to freedom. They talked about it on the radio, wrote in the newspapers. Two months was enough, then the structures were created.

Without the approval of the Lithuanian government and without indulging Hitler, this would not have happened - we must admit, but we don’t want, we have streets and schools named after Kazys Škirpa and Juozas Ambrazevičius.

- Zuroff admitted that he did not realize that at the dawn of independence Lithuania was not able to face the past - even France took 50 years to admit its guilt for the pro-Hitler actions of the Vichy regime.

- We will need 90 years. Soon everyone will die, and the generation of my children will be interesting, only witnesses will be gone. That's why I talked with witnesses while they are alive. Let no one read this book; maybe it will be read in 10 or 15 years. I did my duty to my homeland, although she did not ask for it.

From where you can know that in the building where the well-known Panevezhe confectionery company is now located, a well-known yeshiva, a religious school, operated before. There is no sign. Students and teachers from all over the world came here.

- What do you think, what would Lithuania be like if it had not destroyed its inhabitants?

- I think we would have more scientists, great doctors. It would be a serious state. But we wanted racial purity and their teeth.

- You mentioned that relatives have renounced you. Did your relatives participate in the Holocaust?

- I dont know. My grandfather participated in the commission that made the list of 10 Jews, and my aunt's husband was the commander of white-livers, he worked in Panevezys in security structures. I know that all the police of Panevezys, under the influence of the Nazis, participated in this process. I know that none of them pulled the trigger - otherwise I would not write, it would be too hard for me.

The Holocaust consists of two crimes. One thing is that the administration is involved in drawing up lists, etc., the other is murder. I think if we all look at our relatives ...

- Are you ready for defamation charges against Lithuania with the help of Zuroff?

But I did a good job - Zuroff will stop traveling to Lithuania. He understands that what I did, what Richardas Doveika and Thomas Šarnas said, what the historians did - he knows that we are on the right track. He can not tell us anything new - it’s up to the Lithuanians to figure out their past.

Zuroff said that he had nothing more to do here - no foreigner can make Lithuania look at his past.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 28 January 2016 05: 44
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    Judging by the fact that in Lithuania the Jews themselves (except Zuroff) no longer raise the topic of Jewish genocide, the reason for the constant waking up of this topic in Germany is not moral, but purely material.
    Actually, I knew about this before, but now I have received confirmation.
    I believe that if there was something to take from Lithuania, it wouldn’t get away with it.

    I look forward to comments from our Israeli members of the forum regarding the inattention of Israeli officials to the topic of genocide. Or is there attention, but the article is biased?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 28 January 2016 07: 41
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      Quote: Pereira

      I look forward to comments from our Israeli members of the forum regarding the inattention of Israeli officials to the topic of genocide. Or is there attention, but the article is biased?

      Unfortunately in Israel, the Holocaust has long been a factor in history books and memorable dates. Young Israelis certainly remember the tragedy of their ancestors, but do not let it through themselves. Too many threats and challenges today. As for the official approach, he places the main blame for the Holocaust on Germany, as the ideologist and organizers of the genocide, and the Lithuanian killers and other voluntary helpers of the Nazis, is treated as rabble that could realize itself only under the conditions created for them by Germany. There is no question of forgiveness, of course, and Yad-Vashem studies and publishes materials on the topic, but the emphasis is put exactly that.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 28 January 2016 08: 08
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        Thanks, Aron, for the info. At one time they wrote that Jews are very actively hunting for Nazi criminals (Wiesenthal and others) and are not going to forgive anyone. Therefore, the current reaction surprises me.
        Germany is truly an organizer. That's only in the Baltic states, not only rabble, but almost the entire population was engaged in genocide. I read that in Latvia Jews went from the camp to forced labor without protection, because there was nowhere to run, not a single Latvian would give not only shelter, a piece of bread.
        So that I consider blaming only the German people wrong. Either the collective responsibility of all the countries involved, or no one.
        Most likely the Baltic states are forgiven for their shameful past for the current vehement Russophobia.
        And the Germans, judging by how they tolerate blacks with Arabs, broke down and degraded. Their spirit is undermined. In my opinion, spiritual death is worse than physical. They have already paid their future, which is now called into question already in the physical plane.
        1. Rarog
          Rarog 28 January 2016 08: 34
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          Why everyone remembers the genocide of the Jews, judging by the numbers, the third most affected ethnic group in the period from the 30s to the mid 40s (the fourth, if we add the culprits here - the Germans themselves, and maybe the fifth, I don't know what the Japanese have with losses), but forget about the first two? Is the destruction of 27 million citizens of the USSR, of whom the OVERALLY number were ethnic Russians (Belarusians, Great Russians and Little Russians) or 50 million Chinese citizens, of which the Oppressor was precisely the Han people (ethnic Chinese), not such a tragedy as the publicized Holocaust, not an ethnic genocide? ! Or the murder of tens of millions of Russians (not to mention our blood relatives Serbs, Poles ...) and Hans in comparison with the destruction of 6 million "God's chosen" is an insignificant fact ?!
          1. krot
            krot 28 January 2016 08: 46
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            It seems to me so and now give free rein to the Baltic states, they will do the same! Rotten folk! Together with the Anglo Saxons!
          2. Pereira
            Pereira 28 January 2016 08: 53
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            If we discard emotions, then first of all the total losses are not 27, but 20 millions. Of these, civilian 11,5 millions. This is a percentage of the entire population less than Jews. Although, if they lost, the interest would have equalized.
            1. Kaiten
              Kaiten 29 January 2016 12: 33
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              Quote: Pereira
              If we discard emotions, then first of all the total losses are not 27, but 20 millions. Of these, civilian 11,5 millions. This is a percentage of the entire population less than Jews. Although, if they lost, the interest would have equalized.

              100%
          3. Rumata
            Rumata 28 January 2016 10: 44
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            Quote: Rarog
            Why does everyone remember the Jewish genocide, judging by the numbers, the third most affected ethnic group from the 30s to the mid 40s (the fourth, if you add the culprits here - the Germans themselves, and maybe the fifth, I don’t know what the Japanese have with losses), but forget about the first two? Is the destruction of 27 million citizens of the USSR of which the overwhelming number were ethnic Russians (Belarusians, Great Russians and Little Russians) or 50 million citizens of China


            One more. When is the day of mourning for the dead Chinese in Russia? How often is this topic discussed? Nobody forbids the residents of the former CIS to honor their victims as they please, mourning, processions, museums, and school lessons. Jews remember the Holocaust of their people, but each time a genius appears, which requires the Jews to mourn for all the lost peoples, during the Second World War, before and after ...
            Every year there are events dedicated to the memory of those killed in Beslan, but where are the same about the genocide in Rwanda? Already 1 million people died there, and not so long ago.
            Double standarts? How do you remember the Days of Remembrance in Israel?
          4. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 28 January 2016 10: 54
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            Quote: Rarog
            Why does everyone remember the Jewish genocide

            So this is very beneficial to someone.
            Quote: Rarog
            Is the destruction of 27 million citizens of the USSR

            And that means to someone this is very unprofitable. Although among these people there were a small number of Jews. BUT these Jews seem to be transferred to the category of victims of the Holocaust. The rest is not interesting material.
          5. WKS
            WKS 28 January 2016 11: 47
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            Quote: Rarog
            It was the Han people (ethnic Chinese) who were OVERWHEELING, not such a tragedy as a publicized Holocaust, not an ethnic genocide ?! Or the murder of tens of millions of Russians (not to mention our blood relatives Serbs, Poles ...) and Hants in comparison with the destruction of 6 million "God's chosen" is an insignificant fact ?!

            The whole point is that the majority of the peoples who suffered the greatest losses from fascism suffered them in the fight against fascism. If we talk about the Russian people, the main losses were on the fronts in the first three years of the Second World War. Naturally, not only Russians, but also all other peoples of the USSR fought in the Soviet army. But if you now look at the lists of those lying in mass graves, then most of them are fighters with Russian surnames. But the Jewish population in the territories occupied by the Germans, as a rule, dutifully accepted the German occupation. Obediently carried out the orders of the German authorities and in time gathered with the set of things according to the announced lists for loading and sending to the extermination camps. In the same Auschwitz-Birkenau several trains arrived daily with Jews from all over Europe. None of them were caught in European forests and mountains. All of them with their feet with suitcases came to the collection points, they themselves went into the cars, they themselves got out of them. Moreover, in the camp, they did almost everything themselves, undressed before destruction, sorted the things of the dead, burned the corpses of compatriots in furnaces, sifted ash in search of gold, weighed and sorted this gold, handed it over to warehouses. And the ash itself was loaded onto carts and taken to the surrounding fields themselves. This is not fiction. This is all described in numerous memoirs of both prisoners and German camp staff.
            Now, if (although history knows it does not tolerate this decline), the USSR in 1943-44 lost the war, and Germany would have won. What would a world map look like now in our time? Would Israel be on it, the USA, the Baltic countries with Poland? Did anyone on Earth remember that there was once such a nation - the Jews? Would there be at least one Jew on Earth? Did the term itself arise - the Holocaust? This is the price of that Victory in May 1945.
            1. Kaiten
              Kaiten 29 January 2016 12: 54
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              Quote: wks

              But if you now look at the lists of those lying in mass graves, then most of them are fighters with Russian surnames.

              I agree 100%

              Quote: wks

              But the Jewish population in the territories occupied by the Germans, as a rule, dutifully accepted the German occupation. Obediently carried out the orders of the German authorities and in time gathered with the set of things according to the announced lists for loading and sending to the extermination camps. In the same Auschwitz-Birkenau several trains arrived daily with Jews from all over Europe. None of them were caught in European forests and mountains. All of them with their feet with suitcases came to the collection points, they themselves went into the cars, they themselves got out of them.

              Yes, if in the place of the Jews there would be a different nation, it would not be enough that has changed. The Russians strongly resisted in Chechnya in the early 90s, when they were expelled, and often killed in their own homes? The fate and behavior of the Russians in Chechnya mirrors the fate of the Jews. Did the Armenians strongly resist the Turks in 1915? The Yezidis strongly resisted when two years ago Daesh launched genocide against these people? The problem is not nationality, but that there was no core around which the Jews could unite. Where this nucleus was present, there the Jews fought no worse than others. For example, in the ranks of the Soviet Army (check the percentage of the number of heroes of the USSR), in the ranks of the countries participating in the anti-Hitler coalition, in partisan detachments in eastern Poland and Belarus.


              Quote: wks

              Moreover, in the camp, they did almost everything themselves, undressed before destruction, sorted the things of the dead, burned the corpses of compatriots in furnaces, sifted ash in search of gold, weighed and sorted this gold, handed it over to warehouses.


              Check how the Russian prisoners of war behaved in the camps. They also served in the probe teams, burned and buried the corpses of their murdered comrades. The system was like that among the Nazis. It was very hard to resist with this system. In the history of the war, there was only one case of a successful uprising in the death camp - Sobibor. And if you go a little deeper into the history of this uprising, you will understand that it owes its luck to the synthesis of two factors: thorough preparation and knowledge of the situation by local Jews and the courage of Soviet prisoners of war. More such cases were not in the camps with Soviet prisoners of war, nor in the camps where Jews were held.
          6. vladimirw
            vladimirw 28 January 2016 12: 30
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            I agree with you, this is unfortunately politics, not compassion for the murdered. it was profitable for the world's Jews after the war to speak ONLY about the suffering of their backgammon. The media were then controlled by Jews, and now even more so. And besides, this is the principle of "stop the thief" - Hitler came to power on the money of American Jews, British. And US President Roosevelt refused to accept wholesale Jewish refugees. They accepted only specialists like Einstein, but then Hitler's scientists, engineers and career intelligence officers. The US and Canada boosted their economies great on this
          7. Kaiten
            Kaiten 29 January 2016 12: 31
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            Quote: Rarog
            Why does everyone remember the Jewish genocide

            I wonder who is it all? In Yad Vashem, on all excursions, it is emphasized that in addition to 6 million Jews (this makes up about 50% of the total Jewish population), about 30 million Slavs died. The juggling of history takes place precisely in Russia. Every time this topic begins to be discussed, a clever man immediately appears who writes that Hitler was a Jew, Jews served in the Wehrmacht, that if there were no Bolshevik Jews in Russia, then Hitler would not have attacked the USSR. All this nonsense is written on the open spaces of the Russian Internet, in the Hebrew-speaking segment they do not even know about it. Yes, in Israel they know very little the history of World War II. I met young people who did not know the main points in the history of the 2nd MV, nor the participating countries, nor its period. Absolute ignorance among some Israelis in this topic.
        2. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 28 January 2016 08: 40
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          Quote: Pereira
          They have already paid their future, which is now called into question already in the physical plane.
          - It seems too early to bury Germany. In the last century, in the late 20s, the situation there was even worse. And on this "comrade" Hitler made such a mess! ...
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 28 January 2016 15: 37
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            Then the people were different. Tighter.
      2. cumastra1
        cumastra1 28 January 2016 08: 24
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        Could it be otherwise? Figures who distinguished themselves under the Germans now pass as "fighters for independence". They are national heroes. And heroes, even if they have a stigma in the cannon (hands up to the elbows in blood), are not subject to punishment. And Israel is useless to demand their punishment.
      3. padded jacket
        padded jacket 28 January 2016 12: 28
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        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Unfortunately in Israel, the Holocaust has long been a factor in history books and memorable dates. Young Israelis certainly remember the tragedy of their ancestors, but do not let it through themselves.

        This is absolutely true in Israel, the victims of this monstrous crime are not needed by anyone and they are remembered only on the anniversary of this tragedy or when the Israeli government needs to receive compensation for the Holocaust or some other "donation" such as the recent discount on arms from the FRG (Germany). So for Israel, they are just a way to show how "affected" they are and get more money and trade preferences from other countries.
        A quarter of Israeli Holocaust victims live below the poverty line
        1. Avantageur
          Avantageur 30 January 2016 17: 39
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          - The book sounds terribly rhetorical about how many gold teeth were pulled out from the murdered Jews, melted down, and then used to make the teeth of the inhabitants of Joniškielis? This was about the murderer of the Jews, who then worked as a dental technician. Did the Lithuanians share the golden crowns of those killed?

          - Not only in Joniškalis, many places. I remember, in Soviet times, when teeth were treated, they asked - will the gold be yours or mine? Where did dental technicians have gold? Where have all the gold crowns gone?

          To Jews, all tooth crowns do not give rest: - How so! - So much gold is not taken into account! - And if, however, where does the little gold come up? - It is urgent to calculate, multiply, divide, apply the formula to the survivors in the exel and divide ...
  2. SSR
    SSR 28 January 2016 05: 48
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    The units of people who can go against the tide, against .... I don’t even know what to call it ..... The position of our people praising Europe, Europeans and talking about the bestial nature of other nations is surprising, although, as historical practice shows, most people were destroyed Europeans, British, Germans, French, Spaniards (the British destroyed one nation altogether under the net) and even such a small European country like Lithuania was able to distinguish itself.
    Scary lines.

    I read the exhumation protocols.
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 28 January 2016 06: 32
      -27 qualifying.
      Quote: SSR
      Scary lines.

      I read the exhumation protocols.


      - Stupid lines, sorry for being straightforward. First, who wrote these protocols? Secondly, "intact skulls" only indicate that the skulls were not damaged. How about the hellish epidemics of typhus, which struck all living things both in the Germans and in ours? How about hunger? By the way, the famine in the German camps was often due to the "allies"; it was their aviation that bombed the food depots and supply lines of these camps. How many millions of Slavs died in these camps, who, for one reason or another, were captured? More than Jews lived in Europe, I guess. But we will only regret the nosy ones, because they are smart and raised a hell of a howl all over the earth, on which they cut down the money (and they still cut it to this day). On the blood of their "relatives". Despicable hucksters.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 28 January 2016 08: 26
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        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        - Stupid lines, sorry for being straightforward. First, who wrote these protocols? Secondly, "intact skulls" only indicate that the skulls were not damaged. How about the hellish epidemics of typhus, which struck all living things both in the Germans and in ours? How about hunger? By the way, the famine in the German camps was often due to the "allies"; it was their aviation that bombed the food depots and supply lines of these camps. How many millions of Slavs died in these camps, who, for one reason or another, were captured? More than Jews lived in Europe, I guess. But we will only regret the nosy ones, because they are smart and raised a hell of a howl all over the earth, on which they cut down the money (and they still cut it to this day). On the blood of their "relatives". Despicable hucksters.

        That is, according to your opinion, people in concentration camps were dying of hunger for the reason that - ATTENTION - Allied aviation bombed various military facilities in Germany, which include food warehouses and supply lines. And intact children's skulls only say that these children Didn't vaccinate against infectious diseases in a timely manner ?! It turns out, in your opinion, the Nazis brought people happiness and prosperity, but the Allied bombing led to the death of millions of people in concentration camps where the Germans drove them, oh sorry, invited ... "... Sorry, Ivan Vasilievich, but it seems to me that you are delusional. "
        1. Kaiten
          Kaiten 29 January 2016 13: 12
          -1
          Quote: Fitter65
          That is, according to your opinion, people in concentration camps were dying of hunger for the reason that - ATTENTION - Allied aviation bombed various military facilities in Germany, which include food warehouses and supply lines. And intact children's skulls only say that these children Didn't vaccinate against infectious diseases in a timely manner ?! It turns out, in your opinion, the Nazis brought people happiness and prosperity, but the Allied bombing led to the death of millions of people in concentration camps where the Germans drove them, oh sorry, invited ... "... Sorry, Ivan Vasilievich, but it seems to me that you are delusional. "

          He is not raving, he is one of those who are trying to change history. Now similar types to him, spud Russia. The Jews themselves were to blame for the war, but no one killed them in the concentration camps, there were no mass shootings, they supposedly died of a cold themselves, since the Jews are inherently poor health. Only now, when they are finished with us, with the Jews, in the sense that they will not remain in the European memory of the Jewish victims in that war, take over for you, for the Russians. It is people like him who destroy the monuments of owls in Poland. soldiers like him in Bulgaria paint them pink. People like him in Estonia wear SS uniforms. A few more years will pass, and people like him will bill the Russians for releasing them from Hitler's European. Draw your own conclusions.
        2. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 29 January 2016 19: 02
          +1
          Quote: Fitter65
          That is, it seems to you that people in concentration camps died of starvation for the reason that -ATTENTION-Allied aircraft bombed various military facilities in Germany, which include food stores and supply lines.


          - Not only for this reason, but also for this - no doubt also.

          Quote: Fitter65
          And intact children's skulls only say that these children were not promptly vaccinated against infectious diseases ?!


          - As one of the options. Of course, he is less tragic and infinitely less pretentious than the SS men, with twisted, sweaty red faces, strangling children with their bloody hands, but ... more realistic. Disease, hunger, inadequate care, extremely poor medicine - all this took more lives in the war than all the "gas chambers" combined. However, in Poland one notorious concentration camp first "exterminated" 1,5 million nosed ones ... then - bam! - and immediately 4, as they say, "everything is according to secret documents" ... so I would not be surprised if it soon turns out that not a single prisoner died from the reasons I listed, but the Nazis killed all of them. Or even Hitler personally. By oneself. A demon must be a demon, right?

          Quote: Fitter65
          It turns out, in your opinion, that the Nazis brought happiness and prosperity to people, but the bombing of the Allies led to the deaths of millions of people in concentration camps where the Germans drove them, sorry, invited ...


          “I don’t know how it happened to you like that.” It seems to me that you are unwell and you should consult a specialist. All the best.

          Quote: Kaiten
          He is not raving, he is one of those who are trying to change history. Now similar types to him, spud Russia.


          - Cry-cry. No, I'm not like that.

          Quote: Kaiten
          Only now, when they finish with us, with the Jews, in the sense that they will not remain in the European memory of the Jewish victims in that war, take over for you, for the Russians.


          - Tell me, O God-chosen one, why the Jews, who did not contribute to the victory over Nazism at all, suddenly became the first, who should be remembered because otherwise (and here is a listing of all the terrible horrors, the invention of which is so rich in the imagination of individual peoples)?

          Quote: Kaiten
          It is people like him who destroy the monuments of owls in Poland. soldiers like him in Bulgaria paint them pink. People like him in Estonia wear SS uniforms. A few more years will pass, and people like him will bill the Russians for releasing them from Hitler's European. Draw your own conclusions.


          - It is people like me who do not allow themselves to be fooled about the "poor Jews" and remember, first of all, the losses among their compatriots.
      2. SveTok
        SveTok 28 January 2016 08: 42
        +8
        Ruta Vanagayte accomplished more than a feat, such events cannot be kept silent otherwise criminals of all stripes are cloned from jumpers to Maidan.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 28 January 2016 11: 02
          0
          Quote: SveTok
          Ruta Vanagait accomplished more than a feat

          Maybe to some extent. But she exaggerated a lot.
          Quote: Ruta Vanagait
          I remember in Soviet times, when people were treating their teeth, they asked - will it be your or mine gold?
          I do not believe this. One crown weighs about one gram. How many of these crowns had to be pulled so that even in Soviet times this gold was enough even for her? And losses during remelting are not taken into account?
          Even a Jewish dentist offered me "his" gold for crowns. Where did he get it?
          It is possible to take note of the book of Ruta, but to trust everything written - never!
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 28 January 2016 13: 57
            0
            I would very much like to know what exactly did not like the minus speaker in my post? Either my doubts about the amount of gold confiscated from Lithuanian Jews, or the mention of a Jewish dentist with "his" gold? I hope for clarification!
        2. Koshak
          Koshak 28 January 2016 17: 27
          0
          That would be Nobel, and not Madame Aleksievich!
      3. Borets
        Borets 28 January 2016 09: 10
        10
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        Second, "intact skulls" only indicate that the skulls were not damaged.

        Yeah, adults with shot skulls and children with not shot lie in the same grave. Adults were shot and children died of typhoid !!!
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 29 January 2016 19: 07
          +1
          Quote: Borets
          Yeah, adults with shot skulls and children with not shot lie in the same grave. Adults were shot and children died of typhoid !!!


          - Who told you that they all lie there together? Who told you that they died at the same time? Who told you that different mass graves were dug for different "categories" of the victims? I understand that digging and searching is "not cool", boring and tedious, but such "vanagayts" with their "manuscripts" simply "shoot", rowing fame, money and universal recognition ... but history - suddenly! - also science, and this approach is quackery.

          Quote: Ka-52
          This is not a reason to drive people into camps and "spread rot" them there.


          - They are not the first, they are not the last ... the British, the Jews ... very vivid examples. What is Hitler.

          Quote: Ka-52
          If you sympathize with the Germans, Lithuanians, Estonians, "Balts", British, Japanese, French, Spaniards, Italians, Austrians, Vietnamese, Koreans, Chinese, Chechens and Russian "today", this does not mean that you need to whitewash their past. There are painful topics that should not be forgotten, otherwise the past will knock on "your" windows!


          - I sympathize with the Russians - "everlasting". Your grandfathers and grandmothers fought the Germans. Perhaps they died. But we must cry for the Jews ... this is very logical and correct!
          1. Rarog
            Rarog 29 January 2016 20: 22
            0
            Quote: Haettenschweiler

            - I sympathize with the Russians - "everlasting". Your grandfathers and grandmothers fought the Germans. Perhaps they died. But we must cry for the Jews ... this is very logical and correct!


            Bravo! This is with regard to the first sentence. And Bravo ... For everything else. In this phrase, the whole essence of the current absurdity in our information space.
      4. Ka-52
        Ka-52 28 January 2016 12: 17
        +2
        - Stupid lines, sorry for being straightforward. First, who wrote these protocols? Secondly, "intact skulls" only indicate that the skulls were not damaged. How about the hellish epidemics of typhus, which struck all living things both in the Germans and in ours? How about hunger? By the way, the famine in the German camps was often due to the "allies"; it was their aviation that bombed the food depots and supply lines of these camps. How many millions of Slavs died in these camps, who, for one reason or another, were captured? More than Jews lived in Europe, I guess. But we will only regret the nosy ones, because they are smart and raised a hell of a howl all over the earth, on which they cut down the money (and they still cut it to this day). On the blood of their "relatives". Despicable hucksters.

        This is not a reason to drive people into camps and "spread rot" them there.

        If you sympathize with the Germans, Lithuanians, Estonians, "Balts", British, Japanese, French, Spaniards, Italians, Austrians, Vietnamese, Koreans, Chinese, Chechens and Russian "today", this does not mean that you need to whitewash their past. There are painful topics that should not be forgotten, otherwise the past will knock on "your" windows!
        hi
  3. lwxx
    lwxx 28 January 2016 05: 50
    10
    A typical European country - all were Nazis. But they don’t want to answer, but Israel silently forgives, you won’t take money from the poor.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 28 January 2016 10: 57
      -5
      Quote: lwxx
      A typical European country - all were Nazis. But they don’t want to answer, but Israel silently forgives, you won’t take money from the poor.

      Is Russia also a beggar? She is the heiress of the USSR, where Jews were also killed a lot, both in Poland and in Spain. If in your sick brain everything rests only on money, then I'm sorry.
      1. sleeping sayan
        sleeping sayan 28 January 2016 11: 15
        +1
        Russia is not a poverty-stricken country. But for some reason, a "definite" nation, and climbs to lead Russia. Where only "them" are not. And in the State Duma and in the government I will not say anything about TV at all. They left, the air became cleaner. Why climb back?
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 28 January 2016 11: 21
          -4
          Quote: Sleeping Sayan
          Russia is not a poverty-stricken country. But for some reason a "definite" nation is trying to lead Russia. Wherever there are "them" not. And in the State Duma and in the government I will not say anything about TV at all. They left, the air became cleaner. Why climb back

          Even if one last Jew remains in Russia, all and sundry will roll barrels at him. If he leaves, they will find a relationship with anyone and he will automatically become a "Jew". The Russian mentality, which may change in the next generation, cannot be knocked out of people in any way. You open ANY site - the Jews are to blame for everything, although 1% of the oligarchs are Russians or Caucasians. You turn on any official channel - the State Department is to blame for everything. It doesn't matter that the rukoshope government is actually to blame for everything, there is someone to blame everything on, and this is a favorite Russian game.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 28 January 2016 12: 05
            +3
            Quote: Rumata
            You open ANY site - Jews are guilty of everything
            ... and cyclists. smile

            However, as M. Zhvanetsky said:
            - We do not have anti-Semitism, but everyone can continue the phrase "If there is no water in the tap ...". smile
          2. sleeping sayan
            sleeping sayan 28 January 2016 12: 29
            0
            Duc, "the last Jew" still in Russia, did not stay. To my deep regret.
  4. Wolka
    Wolka 28 January 2016 05: 50
    +8
    apparently this is a feat, but someone was the first to do it, i.e. say publicly aloud and admit that everyone is trying to remain silent under the guise of virtue, hiding their own inferiority, a sick society ...
  5. Barboskin
    Barboskin 28 January 2016 05: 51
    10
    There are lines about the investigations of the NKVD, perhaps all of these defendants have now become victims of the Soviet occupation.
  6. Koshak
    Koshak 28 January 2016 05: 54
    11
    "There would be more scientists, great doctors. It would be a serious state. But we wanted racial cleanliness and their teeth."

    and special brainwashing is not necessary - "no one forced them to shoot people. There were volunteers - partly because of widespread anti-Semitism," partly because of the "teeth." It's just that neighbors are against neighbors. There are people and non-people. am

    "Gentlemen of the anti-Semites", please do not worry. The Rothschilds and Rockefellers did not come close here.
  7. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 28 January 2016 06: 10
    +4
    Fascism began before with choosing the enemy and blaming him for all the troubles. It seems that now Europe is on this path and the Jews will again be "unlucky" ...
    1. not a Jew
      not a Jew 28 January 2016 06: 23
      0
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Jews are again "out of luck" ...

      They have such a fate, let them know ... they will say thanks.
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 28 January 2016 06: 28
      +8
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Fascism began before with choosing the enemy and blaming him for all the troubles. It seems that now Europe is on this path and the Jews will again be "unlucky" ...

      In Yandex News: Frank-Walter Steinmeier accused Lavrov of Lavrov interfering in the internal affairs of Germany, for the fact that Russia, represented by Lavrov, requested documents in the case of the Russian woman "Liza", raped by the Arabs. They are so telerant, can betray everything sell.
      http://ria.ru/world/20160127/1366129250.html
      This is a link to the news.
  8. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 28 January 2016 06: 14
    +4
    So much for the "quiet" Lithuanians, a pool with devils!
  9. Neophyte
    Neophyte 28 January 2016 06: 18
    +6
    Is the criminal silence of the Lithuanian priests from the Church striking? In fact, blessing her children for crimes?
  10. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 28 January 2016 06: 21
    +6
    Inhumans in Syria kill people because they have a different faith, and just nonhumans came to kill people, in Lithuania lovers to kill lived there and killed just like that by vocation.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 28 January 2016 06: 24
      +4
      They killed not just like that, but with the aim of robbery.
  11. Moore
    Moore 28 January 2016 06: 32
    11
    There, and other "unique" Baltic peoples were noted. In Latvia, about 65 thousand Jews were killed, and in Estonia, the territory was generally cleared under the definition of "Judenfrei".
    In Estonia, which is typical, the Jews have already heard about the Lithuanian "patriots" with crowbars and clubs, the Latvian national hero Arais, and, taking advantage of the Red Army's resistance to Hitler's pressure, most of them managed to evacuate. The rest of the optimists, numbering about a thousand, were respectfully detained by the local police, honestly carried out an "investigation" and no less respectably shot.
    1. ver_
      ver_ 28 January 2016 06: 46
      -7
      ... I wonder - why the hell are "Jews" like cockroaches spreading across all countries and .. undermining the authorities at home ..?
  12. V.ic
    V.ic 28 January 2016 06: 36
    13
    Solzhenitsin in "Archipelago ..." wrote with some degree of sympathy about the Bandera and "forest brothers" who ended up in the Gulag, ordinary people, hard-working, they say, calm. "Didn't know" what they were doing? By the way, was it not this endured horror that forced the surviving Jews to leave the cozy Europe, which they had "settled down" for more than a thousand years, and to leave "to master" Palestine?
    1. user
      user 28 January 2016 10: 58
      +2
      "Didn't know" what they were doing?


      Yes, he is from their own team, he just did not participate in the physical destruction. Read his opuses.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 28 January 2016 11: 38
        +1
        Quote: user
        "Didn't know" what they were doing?


        Yes, he is from their own team, he just did not participate in the physical destruction. Read his opuses.

        Irina Ginzburg, in her book "A Steep Route", also sympathizes with Western Ukrainians who ended up in the Kolyma camps.
  13. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 28 January 2016 06: 39
    +1
    Truth, nothing but the truth.
    A brave woman knows about the crimes of her ancestors and exposes them! She wants to separate herself from the killers!
    Soviet people restored the Baltic states after World War II.
    It turns out --- ours hushed up these crimes.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 28 January 2016 06: 45
      +4
      Should the Lithuanians be deported as Tatars and Chechens? Not bad idea.
  14. Bort radist
    Bort radist 28 January 2016 06: 49
    +8
    Ambivalent feeling. Much has been written about this tragedy. With documents and confirmations. Nothing new has been said. The tragedy of Lithuania: 1941-1944. http://iknigi.net/avtor-kollektiv-avtorov/30461-tragediya-litvy-1941-1944-gody-k
    ollektiv-avtorov / read / page-14.html
    The link can be found. Reading is scary ....
    Black PR? The only thing I can understand is that periodically it is necessary to remind that they would know what they would remember. I served urgently in Panevezys, I remember going to the shooting range with officers, that's when I heard about these events. We even went to the place of execution, which is not marked in any way. From the stories - they were told that an urgent evacuation was needed. They took with them everything that was most expensive and necessary. I also remember the words that they believed the Lithuanians and Germans to the last. "I don't understand" - said the narrator. "Everything was already clear, and they walked a hundred, accompanied by 5 guards with a rifle. They could sweep everyone and run away ..."
  15. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 January 2016 07: 07
    10
    The Germans are constantly hollowed and hollowed for fascism.
    But about the fascism of western Ukraine and the Baltic states
    we in the Union tried to forget.
    But the fascists themselves did not forget ...
  16. Bort radist
    Bort radist 28 January 2016 07: 11
    +4
    Europe is also the dovecote of the world
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 28 January 2016 10: 17
      0
      Quote: Bort Radist
      Europe is also the dovecote of the world

      Rather, the world "cockerel".
  17. Guevara
    Guevara 28 January 2016 07: 25
    +7
    A crowd of poor but greedy people is all that is needed to turn a small country into a large cemetery for another people.
  18. From Tver
    From Tver 28 January 2016 07: 41
    +1
    True eye pricks.
  19. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 28 January 2016 07: 50
    13
    Lithuanians remember everything perfectly. Argue with some. They say why wound up. I told them, but what did you get to the Soviet Union then, you demand money ... they are silent ... they boycott them -)))
  20. igorra
    igorra 28 January 2016 08: 20
    +5
    I am interested in how the millions of dead Russians, Belorussians, Ukrainians, Poles, Chinese, and all differ from the Jews? Why do they have a Holocaust, and in our country they just died? Why did the Germans bear all responsibility for the war, and the true arsonists and beneficiaries - wealthy Jewish bankers, did not suffer any punishment? The last two wars they unleashed did not teach us anything, so we will get a third, for them we are all goyim and do not cost anything when we understand what evil they represent for all mankind, then peace on the planet may improve.
    1. Stauffenberg
      Stauffenberg 28 January 2016 08: 46
      +9
      Here I strongly disagree with you. Jews were subject to categorical extermination, in contrast to the Russians and other peoples, who were to become the food base for the Aryan supermen. In the Baltic states, they were destroyed ruthlessly and brutally. The locals took such a lively part in this matter that the Germans themselves were horrified by the agility of their usually leisurely allies.
      The fact that Israel made money on this does not detract from the scale of the crimes. However, the descendants of the exterminated Soviet Jews received almost nothing. The USSR from Germany took nothing for them. But you need to remember this. Because it is the character of the Baltic peoples and the Russians who live there understand that the beast has not gone away, but simply hid under the guise of the EU.

      By the way, in the reports of the German yagdk teams that led the shootings, there are many Communists. They go as a separate line. And these are Russians and locals who were on the side of the Soviet government. Nobody remembers about them like that ....
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 28 January 2016 11: 06
        -2
        Quote: Stauffenberg
        The USSR from Germany took nothing for them.

        The USSR, like the other victorious countries, took a lot, ten times more than the victims of the Holocaust, in terms of 1 person.
        1. Rarog
          Rarog 28 January 2016 16: 44
          0
          How many USSR and first of all Russian people donated ?! Who actually liberated the world from the 3rd Reich? Whose victim does every living Jew owe? What is the percentage ratio between those Jews who rebuffed the Nazis and those who, on command without resistance, went to the end camp? Whose money was Hitler fighting for? A Jew remains a Jew, he even makes calculations here, who got more profit. And after that you don’t like the attitude of other people towards you?

          And who threw phrases about the "scoop" there? Yes, you are alive only because the "Scoop" won, with ... ungrateful. By the way, there was a "good" attitude towards Jews in the Russian Empire, which is why the Trotskys and Forms destroyed RI.

          "Good" attitude towards you from the whole world ... maybe it's time to look for the reason in yourself?
        2. Stauffenberg
          Stauffenberg 28 January 2016 18: 15
          +3
          Compared to the damage the Germans and their allies did to the USSR, I do not take the 27 million dead, the Soviet reparations were simply ridiculous. Oh yes, we got a gouged and deserted Kaliningrad region, in which we invested a huge amount of funds to restore
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 28 January 2016 10: 23
      +3
      Quote: igorra
      and the true arsonists and beneficiaries - rich Jewish bankers - have not suffered any punishment? The last two wars they unleashed did not teach us anything, so we will get a third, for them we are all goyim and do not cost anything when we understand what evil they represent for all mankind, then peace on the planet may improve.

      Henry Ford said: "Isolate the 50 richest Jews - and the wars will end" http://ursa-tm.ru/forum/index.php?/topic/93936-izolirujte-50-samykh-bogatykh-ame
      rikantcev-% E2% 80% 94-i-vojn /
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 28 January 2016 11: 13
        -1
        Quote: V.ic
        Henry Ford said: "Isolate the 50 richest Jews and the wars will end

        "The treatment of Jews in any country is a thermometer of its civilization."
        Napoleon Bonaparte
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 28 January 2016 19: 53
          +3
          Quote: Rumata
          "The treatment of Jews in any country is a thermometer of its civilization."
          Napoleon Bonaparte

          Briefly and clearly. Well done! Then how did he blunder in another case?
          Napoleon Bonaparte (from "Reflections" and a speech-address to the Council of State on April 30 and May 7, 1806) "They are the main troublemakers in the modern world ... They are the vultures of humanity ... They form a state within a state. Surely they are not law-abiding citizens ..." http : //cagal.clan.su/index/0-71
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 29 January 2016 16: 49
            -1
            Now find the translation and read about whom Napoleon was talking about, although what you can talk about with a person visiting sites using the link above. Good luck
    3. Rumata
      Rumata 28 January 2016 11: 01
      0
      Quote: igorra
      I am interested in how the millions of dead Russians, Belorussians, Ukrainians, Poles, Chinese, and all differ from the Jews? Why do they have a Holocaust, and with us so, they simply died

      Who's stopping you from creating your Day of Mourning and calling it whatever you like? Why should the Jews do this for you?
  21. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 28 January 2016 08: 29
    +6
    20 000 people worked in the Lithuanian administration: police officers, district police chiefs. Only 3% of them were Germans. A process was carried out by the Lithuanians. Of course, it was not the Lithuanians who planned, but they were told, they carried out, they did everything so well, that then they brought to Lithuania Jews from Austria and France.

    In IX Fort, Jews from Austria and the Czech Republic were shot by 5000. Here they were taken to the vaccine - the Jews went into the pits with their sleeves rolled up in anticipation of vaccination. The Lithuanians worked so well that the battalion of Antanas Impulevicius was taken to Belarus - they killed 15 000 Jews. The Germans were very pleased.

    Yeah, real Europeans.
  22. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 28 January 2016 08: 57
    +7
    Good, clever article. Our colleagues from Israel need to remember that once a betrayer will betray again, and a nation that has positioned the Jews for itself as subhuman inside itself will never change its attitude towards them, whatever it says. In the place of the Jews in the Baltic states, Germany, Poland, I would not forget about this. Benefits allowances, and uncover old crematoriums very briefly.
    1. Stauffenberg
      Stauffenberg 28 January 2016 09: 07
      +2
      They are stingy people. There is nothing to waste coal. They simply shot them without crematoria and "worked" with crowbars with axes. There, and so everything is fine, to the synagogues on holidays pigs' heads are thrown, processions are held.
    2. avva2012
      avva2012 28 January 2016 09: 25
      +2
      Do they consider the Russians, that is, the Balts, to be human beings? Only give free rein. We must not forget about such crimes. Let the s-ki repent. It was necessary to make it so that to the question, "What nation are you?", The Lithuanian blushed, turned pale and would answer, "I am Russian."
  23. _umka_
    _umka_ 28 January 2016 09: 05
    +2
    As if Lithuania did not repeat this way again. Americans will be cleaner than the Nazis.
  24. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 January 2016 09: 09
    +4
    I didn’t even read it to the end, I have long had an opinion on this.
    It’s just that almost all tribals are divided into groups, these are national fascists, these are their singers, these are cowards who are afraid of their own shadow and a very small number such as Ruta Vanagayte who want to know the truth, and not like these seafarers, the founders of humanity.
  25. avva2012
    avva2012 28 January 2016 09: 16
    +1
    8 students of the craft school, 16-17 years, served in a special detachment. June came, there was nothing to do, they went to work - they were promised the things of the Jews. Summer is over, they left the squad.

    It would be interesting to read the composition of these lads, on the topic: "How, did I spend the summer?"
    I understand that there is also a statement by the Foreign Ministry about "partners" in the person of the United States, France and England. BUT, why, there is no modern assessment of these facts. Why dip. relations with the state of Lithuania?
  26. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 28 January 2016 09: 17
    +3
    Ours in the USSR wanted to create friendship of all peoples.
    Quote: Zomanus
    about fascism in western Ukraine and the Baltic states
    we in the Union tried to forget.
    But the fascists themselves did not forget ...

    International relations cannot be changed, even though how much time will pass. I am not ashamed that I did not know about the Baltic states, but now I know and understand.
  27. sleeping sayan
    sleeping sayan 28 January 2016 09: 33
    0
    On January 26, there was an article about Patrushev. There was about the Jewish pogroms. After all, it is not for nothing that "them" were thrashed by the whole history. And here on the site what some of "them" are doing. They are swimming around us, our country, everything that surrounds us. And at the same time, certain Pros-ki remain citizens of the Russian Federation. But it's okay, I’m sharpened, SKS is smeared.
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 28 January 2016 17: 33
      +1
      and who are you aiming at? Are the pliers OK? Although gold crowns are rare now
  28. Aitvaras
    Aitvaras 28 January 2016 10: 16
    0
    The city of Ruta has not opened America. This topic has been discussed a lot in Lithuania for a long time. Many criminals, Lithuanians, were convicted of these murders during the Soviet era. These days, in the Lithuanian media, this topic was openly and actively discussed, with the participation of the author of the book. In Lithuania, these murderers of Jews have never been considered heroes; the people used to call them a contemptuous nickname "žydšaudis" (untranslated). In all the European countries occupied by the Germans, in relation to the Jews, in essence, the same thing happened as in Lithuania. In the USSR, in the occupied part of it, approx. 3 million i.e. 97 percent Jews living there, while local policemen, other fascist henchmen, including the "Vlasovites", also took an active part.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 28 January 2016 10: 34
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      You are justifying them, and it was not only Jews who were killed, by the way, the possibility of a tribalt would have destroyed all Russians even now.
      1. Aitvaras
        Aitvaras 28 January 2016 10: 52
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        Holocaust Day is celebrated in Lithuania these days. Many broadcasts on lit TV and media. Very correct. Representatives of the Jewish community of Lithuania take part in them. Lithuanian schoolchildren visit places of mass executions of Jews and bring flowers.
        Oh, Dear, you know that in Vilnius on February 6, in the Old Town, there will be a traditional Maslenitsa festival. There will be many performances by folklore ensembles, including from Russia - "Arinushka"? As usual there are many tourists from Russia.
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 28 January 2016 13: 19
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          Quote: Aitvaras
          As usual, there are many tourists from Russia.


          But I don’t need to tell tales; I was in Vilnius, and as it was in the early 80s, I remember very well, let’s say, compared to us, Lithuanians skated like cheese in butter. There was more on the beach in Vilnius than in our stores. My friend lived there, worked as a pilot in the Civil Air Fleet and left for Moscow, why would he give up a good job and get a new job?
          There is only one answer - nationalism, and even hurt him not so much as his children, that's the storyteller. And I traveled all over the Baltic states together with the Kaliningrad region.
          1. Aitvaras
            Aitvaras 28 January 2016 13: 52
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            And I not only visit but also live in Vilnius. We have a Russian Drama Theater, the Department of the Russian Language at the Vilnius University. Concerts in the Old Town of Russian folklore - "Pokrovskie bells", in the best concert hall of the Šv.Kotrynos church, concerts "Russian romance of the 19th century" are constantly popular with the Lithuanian public. Many of my friends in their home libraries have complete collections of works of some Russian classics, naturally in Russian. Annually, the Day of the Flag of Russia, Orthodox Christmas is held. Mayors of Vilnius personally congratulate the participants of these holidays in Russian
            1. Ros 56
              Ros 56 29 January 2016 07: 39
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              Vilnius mayors personally congratulate participants of these holidays in Russian


              And what, from this nationalism became less, did not. And how are the monuments to Soviet soldiers, and what about the names of the streets.
              By the way, the question is how about a resident of Vilnius. And something like the districts of Lazdinay, Zhirmunai, etc. built in the post-Soviet time. When we walked on a boat from the bridge (if I am not mistaken, bore the name Chernyakhovsky) to the beach, we admired the multi-storey buildings, all in colors, beauty.
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    2. lysyj bob
      lysyj bob 28 January 2016 10: 53
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      Quote: Aitvaras
      Many criminals, Lithuanians, were convicted of these killings during the Soviet era.


      And after the USSR, those who were not condemned and their sympathizers arrange parades of "veterans" under Nazi flags, and they are honored as heroes!
      Have you seen parades of former Vlasovites or policemen in Russia? And you will never see it, because our people will remember the "exploits" of both "our" fascist henchmen and your "veterans" for a very long time. The fact that this topic was discussed in your media does not mean that the correct conclusions will be drawn. And we will see the essence of the conclusions when in the new year your, Latvian and Estonian "veterans" will again parade under the SS-Soviet banners.
      1. Aitvaras
        Aitvaras 28 January 2016 11: 49
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        In each specific case of the murder of Jews, during the war in Lithuania, they are sorted out. No one will escape responsibility. About the SS parades, we do not have them because in Lithuania and Greece no SS troops were created. This is a rare case in Europe then occupied by the Germans. Lithuanians refused to swear allegiance to Hitler, for which many were shot or imprisoned in concentration camps in Germany, respectively, we cannot have such parades. And "skinheads" sometimes hang around the streets. So this trouble is still happening on the streets of England, Germany, Russia. "There is a freak in the family."
        1. lysyj bob
          lysyj bob 28 January 2016 17: 56
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          We have a Russian Drama Theater, a Russian Language Department at Vilnius University. Concerts in the Old Town of Russian folklore - "Pokrovskie bells", in the best concert hall of the Šv.Kotrynos church, concerts "Russian romance of the 19th century" are constantly popular with the Lithuanian public. Many of my friends in their home libraries have complete collections of works of some Russian classics, naturally in Russian. Annually, the Day of the Flag of Russia, Orthodox Christmas is held. Mayors of Vilnius personally congratulate the participants of these holidays in Russian


          Dear Aitvaras. But if this is so, then why is your government so aggressive rhetoric toward Russia? Do they see the Russian threat and propaganda in everything? I understand that you cannot answer for them, but you chose them yourself. Or...
          1. Aitvaras
            Aitvaras 29 January 2016 09: 11
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            Yes, I chose the current leadership of Lithuania. I basically agree with the policy of our President. I think that our leadership has grounds for criticism of the current foreign policy of Russia.
        2. Kaiten
          Kaiten 29 January 2016 16: 51
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          that SS and Lithuania were not created in Lithuania and Greece.

          2 Lithuanische Schutzmannschaftsbataillon
          The 2nd Lithuanian schutzmanbattalion, commander Major Antanas Impulevicius, was guarded by cc Majdanek.
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  29. Russia
    Russia 28 January 2016 10: 22
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    Because of the book on the genocide of Jews in Lithuania, relatives and friends turned away from the author (Delfi.lv, Latvia).

    In "civilized" Europe, you don't have to be crazy or a leper - just tell the Truth and you will be isolated.
  30. user3970
    user3970 28 January 2016 10: 39
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    I have an ambivalent attitude to this. I have an extremely negative attitude towards the Jews who confess the Torah and who worship Yahweh as a god. Further - a few letters ... "Seek from a foreigner, and what will be yours from your brother, forgive ..." "... and you will lend to many nations, but you yourself will not borrow; and you will rule over many nations and they will not rule over you. " "Give your brother neither silver nor bread, nothing, or anything else that can be given for growth. Give it to a stranger to grow, but don’t give it to your brother, so that the Lord your God will bless you in everything that is done with your hands on the land you are going to take possession of it. " Deuteronomy. The book of the prophet Isaiah. Otherwise and simpler - the bank loan interest - an invention of the Jews, who received the blessing of their God for this. And one more thing ... Two nations "distinguished themselves" by their bestial hatred of Jews: "Svidomye" Ukrainians - Kievans and Westerners and Balts. Even the Germans were more loyal to the Jews and often freed the latter for a ransom. And if you consider that, according to the Israeli press, more than 150 Jews fought against the USSR in the Wehrmacht, or rather "mishlinge" (born in mixed marriages) and fought well. And Ukrainians shouldn't forget Babi Yar. And it's time for the Jews to forget their invented tale of the Holocaust and to get involved in the business of squeezing money out of Germany under this fairy tale. There was no Holocaust!
    1. Aitvaras
      Aitvaras 28 January 2016 12: 29
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      A small clarification. In the Russian Military History Journal No. 9, for 1991 it was published that in the USSR, in the German army prisoner-of-war camps, there were 10 captured Jews who fought against the USSR. To Lithuania, Jews began to relocate in large numbers from Europe, at the invitation of the prince of Lithuania Gediminas, in the 173th century. Judging by the large growth of the Jewish community, good conditions were created in Lithuania for this. We never had Jewish pogroms. Before the war, there were sports and cultural Jewish societies in Lithuania. Theaters, etc. and so on. Such active participation of the Lithuanians in the Holocaust is explained by the fact that in the Lithuanian Communist Party, in 14 there were about half of the Jews and they actively took part in the Stalinist repressions against the Lithuanians in 1940-1940, but to understand is little to justify.
      1. Kaiten
        Kaiten 29 January 2016 16: 56
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        Quote: Aitvaras
        in the USSR, in the German army prisoners of war, there were 10 173 captured Jews who fought against the USSR.

        There is no need to lie, about 10 thousand Hungarian Jews were in Soviet captivity, whom the Khorty authorities mobilized into a Hungarian construction battalion for excavation work on the eve of the Soviet attack on Hungary at the end of the war. In the USSR, they were in the position of prisoners of war, since they were formally enlisted in the Hungarian army. Hungarians would never trust weapons to them since the wives and children of these Jews were expelled to Auschwitz when the ghetto was disbanded. The Swedish diplomat Wallenberg tried to save these Jews.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 28 January 2016 13: 08
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      Quote: user3970
      I have a dual attitude to this. I have a very negative attitude towards the Jews who profess the Torah and worship the god Yahweh.

      That is, anti-Semite, but half?
  31. Alexzora
    Alexzora 28 January 2016 12: 47
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    Why everyone remembers the genocide of the Jews, judging by the numbers, the third most affected ethnic group in the period from the 30s to the mid 40s (the fourth, if we add the culprits here - the Germans themselves, and maybe the fifth, I don't know what the Japanese have with losses), but forget about the first two? Is the destruction of 27 million citizens of the USSR, of whom the OVERALLY number were ethnic Russians (Belarusians, Great Russians and Little Russians) or 50 million Chinese citizens, of which the Oppressor was precisely the Han people (ethnic Chinese), not such a tragedy as the publicized Holocaust, not an ethnic genocide? ! Or the murder of tens of millions of Russians (not to mention our blood relatives Serbs, Poles ...) and Hans in comparison with the destruction of 6 million "God's chosen" is an insignificant fact ?!

    In addition to the post:
    The Holocaust is a promotion. Yes, indeed, many Jews were killed in WWII, but firstly, 6 million is an absolute figure, and if we take percentages of the Holocaust for Jews in history, those who did not like it: the Spaniards, the French, and other civilizers. but it’s not fashionable to talk about it, because if you recall everyone and stop doing business with them, you’ll be left without business partners, but what then should a Jew live on?
    And the genocide of the Russian-speaking is generally TABOO. if they "lagged behind" the Jews, giving them land with practically no resources.
    The surest way to be known as a holy fool is to start talking about the merits and achievements of those who speak "Slavic" (Russian, Bulgarian, Polish, Czech ....) languages.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 28 January 2016 13: 10
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      Quote: AlexZora
      Holocaust is a promotion

      It's nice to call the targeted extermination of one nation a PR action. Bravo. In the footsteps of the Nazis, my friend?
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 28 January 2016 18: 51
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        Quote: Pimply
        PR action.

        Well at least I didn’t call a flash mob ...