Tokyo strongly disagrees with the Russian position on the Kuril Islands

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Japan considers the position of the Russian Federation on the South Kuriles unacceptable, but is not going to protest in connection with the statement of Sergey Lavrov on this issue, reports TASS report of the Deputy Secretary General of the Japanese Cabinet Koichi Hagiuda.



“We consider the position of the Russian side to be completely unacceptable,” Haguyda noted. “The position of the Japanese government on this issue is clearly expressed, and we do not think about taking any concrete action in connection with these statements (Lavrov).”

According to him, Tokyo "intends to continue to pursue an adequate policy in the matter of a territorial dispute with the Russian Federation."

On Tuesday, Sergey Lavrov said that the conclusion of a peace treaty with Japan does not mean the resolution of a territorial dispute over the Kuriles.

“Yes, there is an agreement between the President of Russia and the Prime Minister of Japan that among those issues to be resolved, the issue of a peace treaty is necessarily present. We do not believe that a peace treaty is synonymous with solving a territorial problem. This is a step that is necessary for the relations between the two countries to be normal not only in substance, but also in terms of legal content ”,
said the Russian Foreign Minister.

He also recalled that "the only document that was signed and ratified by the two countries in 1956, the so-called declaration puts the signing of a peace treaty in the first place very clearly."

“I repeat, this declaration, first of all, proceeded from the main thesis that it recorded recognition of the results of the Second World War by both the USSR and Japan,” Lavrov noted. - And without confirming this position, the results of the Second World War, as they are enshrined in the UN Charter, it is almost impossible to move forward. And our Japanese colleagues know about it. ”
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  1. +47
    27 January 2016 09: 48
    Well, and "who is their doctor"?
    Disagree, disagree! )))
    The main thing is that they heard what we told them!
    1. +79
      27 January 2016 09: 51
      Well, we categorically disagree on the position of Japan. They have a chance to return the Kuril Islands. If they become the Japanese Autonomous Okrug within the Russian Federation. May they thank fate that Hokkaido is still theirs. And then you can reunite the Ainu people ..
      1. +19
        27 January 2016 10: 02
        Let them write their disagreement on paper with beautiful hieroglyphs. So that we can turn it into a tube and put it in a hole.
        A hole to them from a public toilet, not the Kuril Islands
        1. +12
          27 January 2016 10: 07
          We consider the position of the Russian side completely unacceptable, ”Hagiuda noted.

          ... and made hara-kiri, himself and the whole Japanese cabinet
          1. +21
            27 January 2016 10: 17
            Quote: Bulls.
            We consider the position of the Russian side completely unacceptable, ”Hagiuda noted.

            ... and made hara-kiri, himself and the whole Japanese cabinet


            Sepuku, this is a whole ritual available only to born Samurai. End Great Warriors on the island. Only nagging and howling beyond. Let the Japanese prime minister challenge Putin to the battle)))) And then cry in the corner ....

            PS Lavrov so stuffed the topic ... just a sight for the sake !!! Calm and simple. Nefig was to fight! Signed commitments at the UN))) Nefig move like a hut on the ass! And then stop loving finally.
        2. +1
          27 January 2016 10: 20
          Quote: umah
          A hole to them from a public toilet, not the Kuril Islands
          - It should be softer somehow. And then from the insult, the hara-kiri will start to do ...
          1. 0
            28 January 2016 23: 41
            It’s softer, it’s softer ... Then the rolled-up paper with their position before stuffing them in ... we remember a little ... For softer.
            1. 0
              30 January 2016 08: 38
              KURILYOUR !!!
        3. +5
          27 January 2016 11: 07
          Quote: umah
          Let them write their disagreement on paper with beautiful hieroglyphs. So that we can turn it into a tube and put it in a hole.
          A hole to them from a public toilet, not the Kuril Islands

          directly offered the whole ritual)))
        4. 0
          30 January 2016 07: 50
          ... hieroglyphics - dense distance - the language of the dead times - not worth the present - let them live in years ..
      2. +19
        27 January 2016 10: 14
        And I disagree with the presence of American military bases in Japan - in fact - the American occupation of Japan. Well, Japan does not have sovereignty, this must be understood. Therefore, all these disagreements are an initiative of the USA. Well, the US needs military bases in the Kuril Islands !!! And that’s it.
      3. +4
        27 January 2016 10: 46
        It is also necessary to raise the question of the occupation of Hokkaido as expected after the end of World War II.
      4. +4
        27 January 2016 10: 55
        So there is no longer the Ainu people, maybe a few have remained. All were cut out in the last century, only old photographs remained. Imperial Japan's racial policies were cooler than Hitler's.
        1. +1
          29 January 2016 15: 42
          So there is no longer the Ainu people, maybe a few have remained. All were cut out in the last century, only old photographs remained. Imperial Japan's racial policies were cooler than Hitler's.

          Let them answer for this! And, at the same time, for the encephalitis tick! negative
      5. 0
        27 January 2016 11: 41
        Japan's dad hears only his own reasons. So the "owner" from the USA ordered them. Nothing changed.
      6. +2
        27 January 2016 12: 16
        Regardless of the solution to the Kuril issue, Japan will always have claims against Russia. This is the basis of the alliance of Japan with the United States. In which case, America will wage war with us through proxy countries, including Japan.
      7. +1
        28 January 2016 20: 50
        "If they become the Japanese Autonomous Region within the Russian Federation. Let them thank fate that Hokkaido is still theirs."

        Let them hold a referendum. We can help. Polite. But in general - it would be cool and everyone will benefit!
      8. -1
        29 January 2016 15: 41
        Well, we categorically disagree on the position of Japan. They have a chance to return the Kuril Islands. If they become the Japanese Autonomous Okrug within the Russian Federation. May they thank fate that Hokkaido is still theirs. And then you can reunite the Ainu people ..

        It is necessary to raise the question of Hokkaido with an edge: return to the Ainam and a point! You get a hole from a donut, not the Kuril Islands! angry
    2. +2
      27 January 2016 09: 52
      Quote: Mihalich17

      Disagree, disagree! )))
      The main thing is that they heard what we told them!
      Don't think they still hope laughing
    3. +16
      27 January 2016 09: 52
      How tired of this constant nagging. Is it really impossible, somehow diplomatically, to close this problem and not respond to their attempts?
      1. +28
        27 January 2016 09: 57
        Tokyo strongly disagrees with the Russian position on the Kuril Islands

        Russia strongly disagrees with the Japanese position on the Kuril Islands

        And then what ?!
        1. +22
          27 January 2016 10: 02
          Yes, they have such national fun - if a politician does not require the Kuril Islands, then he is a deer (from their point of view).
        2. +4
          27 January 2016 10: 47
          Quote: Dembel 77
          And then what ?!

          And then ... Putin’s visit to Japan seems to be postponed from spring.
          People don’t understand that Russia will not even just talk about the Kuril Islands, while they (the Japanese) are under the American umbrella. Well, we also can’t launch the hegemonic region.
          1. +14
            27 January 2016 11: 15
            And the American umbrella has nothing to do with it. The issue of the Kuril Islands should not even be discussed.
            You won’t save any volosts (J. Miloslavsky)
            1. +3
              27 January 2016 11: 39
              .... Some kind of volosts you will not stock up on (J. Miloslavsky) ...

              .... By the way - urka .... What he says, unlike many statesmen - had state and patriotic thinking .... Gaidai subtly noticed in due time .... And touched .... laughing
        3. +1
          27 January 2016 13: 02
          Quote: Dembel 77
          And then what ?!

          So what is next:
          Tokyo strongly disagrees with the Russian position on the Kuril Islands

          Russia strongly disagrees with the Japanese position on the Kuril Islands

          Somehow smile
      2. +7
        27 January 2016 09: 59
        Quote: Megatron
        How tired of this constant nagging.

        They need absolution. They understand that they can’t see the islands, but for the Japanese it is necessary to portray Russia as occupiers, not America, which it essentially is.
        1. +5
          27 January 2016 10: 25
          I wonder why the word goat is considered obscene. laughing
          1. +1
            27 January 2016 11: 18
            I wonder why the word goat is considered obscene,
            it can be seen depending on who and what.
          2. +1
            27 January 2016 11: 31
            Mountain goat. Obama kazel. Feel the difference? bully
            1. +1
              27 January 2016 12: 12
              In, you had to write lowered goat
            2. 0
              28 January 2016 23: 45
              Huh ... then write elegantly and scientifically, in Latin - capra ibex
              And add contextually: Obamicus or Japonica ... wassat
              Censorship script certainly will not cross out.
          3. 0
            29 January 2016 07: 11
            Quote: igordok
            why the word goat is considered obscene.

            Because his friend is Timur))
      3. +3
        27 January 2016 10: 46
        Quote: Wend
        Don't think they still hope laughing

        Funny hope, because historically these islands did not belong to Japan. They themselves seized from RI in Russian-Japanese, and now they whine that they have taken.
      4. +1
        27 January 2016 10: 46
        Quote: Wend
        Don't think they still hope laughing

        Funny hope, because historically these islands did not belong to Japan. They themselves seized from RI in Russian-Japanese, and now they whine that they have taken.
    4. +14
      27 January 2016 09: 54
      Well, I do not agree, and what of this. I was not upset.
    5. +14
      27 January 2016 09: 54
      "... she recorded the recognition of both the USSR and Japan of the results of the Second World War" - to the children of Fujiyama and their owners from the ocean, we must also recall that Uncle Joe forgave them Hokkaido, otherwise they would have riveted their robots on the top of the sacred mountain! laughing
    6. +9
      27 January 2016 09: 58
      Let them sit on the priest exactly ... Their consent is not required!
      1. +2
        27 January 2016 10: 44
        The argument is not worth a damn, soon from the rise in sea level this issue will be resolved on its own.
    7. 0
      27 January 2016 10: 29
      smoked we will not give it back to the Japanese
    8. Pig
      0
      27 January 2016 10: 50
      the question should be put like this:
      geldings from Okinawa and from Japan in general - then a bazaar for the islands ... maybe ... after a rain on Thursday ... when the cancer on the mountain whistles ...
      and then the samurai decided for the "liver" in the form of membership in the ji8 they right now, right now, they will drive the islands;) the "American advisers" advised the campaign
    9. +3
      27 January 2016 11: 14
      How bored they are, they set it up like a "stuck" record, like in the joke - "throw out the tree, throw out the tree." The question should be asked again - "if the land is so needed, why aren't the Americans expelled from Okinawa?"
    10. +2
      27 January 2016 13: 05
      Japan is the staunchest vassal of the United States, remembering the traditions of this country backed up by the military presence and economic stranglehold of the United States, there is no peace treaty, and therefore the beginning of full-fledged cooperation between Russia and Japan, is out of the question (this is death for the United States, similar to the beginning of full-scale cooperation between Russia with Germany) .. This is such an analogue of "Crimea" in Russian-Japanese relations .. And the United States will always stir up this far-fetched question, in Japan they are well aware that they will not see the islands, in the 90s there was a chance but did not put the squeeze on, now it is not real! And what is left for them? Constantly whine at the behest of the owner, and wait for either Russia will weaken and it will be possible to take its own, or when the owner loses his grip and cannot control the actions of his vassal .. So the choice of the Yap is not great .. If you hit the wheel, squeal, but run ..
    11. 0
      27 January 2016 13: 27
      Anyway - how much you can already chew it ... V.V. seems to be quite definitely summarized:
  2. +11
    27 January 2016 09: 49
    Japan considers the position of the Russian Federation on the South Kuril Islands unacceptable

    Well, do not agree, and what? Take a massive seppuku in protest. I’m not sure that this will help, but you will demonstrate the samurai spirit.
    1. +2
      27 January 2016 10: 12
      Where is Seppuku? ** Joke ** laughing
      1. 0
        27 January 2016 11: 43
        Quote: Private27
        Where is Seppuku? ** Joke **

        You would have to joke everything)))
        Seppuku is when "komutohrenovato" ie. in translation from the diplomatic language - the impending drop in the rating of the Deputy Secretary General of the Japanese Cabinet of Ministers Koichi Hagiuda and the entire Japanese government due to the lack of a positive solution to the Kuril issue, after which an unambiguous "hara-kiri" sets in.
  3. +10
    27 January 2016 09: 50
    Our Foreign Minister gave an excellent answer on this subject. It's time to close the question for all sorts of speculation.
    1. +5
      27 January 2016 10: 12
      Quote: Dwarfik
      Our Foreign Minister gave an excellent answer on this subject. It's time to close the question for all sorts of speculation.

      All this controversy surrounding the islands is only because every time we comment on, discuss, and refute at the level of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and senior officials. It is time to say in high tribunes that the QUESTION IS CLOSED !!!
      Recognizing the existence of this problem, we ourselves throw firewood into the fire!
      1. +3
        27 January 2016 12: 22
        Quote: APASUS
        All this controversy surrounding the islands is only because every time we comment on, discuss, and refute at the level of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and senior officials. It is time to say in high tribunes that the QUESTION IS CLOSED !!!
        Recognizing the existence of this problem, we ourselves throw firewood into the fire!

        Absolutely right! The results of World War II are not subject to revision; we, as winners in this war, must first of all remember this. The people remember something, but our corrupt bureaucratic "elite" .... H.re.n knows what to expect from her. On the one hand, Putin is striving to achieve independence from the West, but things are moving very slowly, one step forward, two steps back. First, you need to achieve economic independence, and then you can dictate your own conditions. But we don't have it. The Japs, incited by America, understand this and will not calm down until they are again imprinted on the oblique snouts. I think that the transfer of the Kuriles on the quiet will not work, as with the islands on the Amur. The people in Russia will arrange such a grandiose nix that all volcanoes in the Kuriles will wake up. But you rightly said that the discussions are continuing, although they should not be. The existing peace treaty cannot be signed, it was drawn up not by us, but by the Americans, and by signing it, we will be forced to make concessions to the Japanese on the territorial issue, since it was drawn up like that. Therefore, the Americans are pulling Japan by the strings, demanding that they sign the treaty, which Stalin refused to sign. If Lavrov promises to discuss the signing of this agreement, it means that he gives the Japanese hope for the return of the Kuriles.
  4. +1
    27 January 2016 09: 50
    And what do we have with their disagreement? Do not agree - choke on resentment and swing on the sakura silently.
  5. +2
    27 January 2016 09: 51
    Do not agree - and do not.
    Russia will continue to strengthen the Kuril Islands.
    Until they themselves agree.
    1. +20
      27 January 2016 10: 08
      This week, the Japanese have not yet shown concern about the ownership of the "northern islands." I really wondered if something happened ...? belay Ah no! Everything is fine, after this statement calmed down good
  6. bad
    +4
    27 January 2016 09: 51
    Tokyo strongly disagrees with the Russian position on the Kuril Islands
    ..we have laid our narrow-eyed opinion..you will answer us back in 1905 ..
  7. +2
    27 January 2016 09: 52
    from dohlova donkey ears to them and not Kuril bamboo let them smoke
  8. Boos
    +1
    27 January 2016 09: 52
    If the samurai does not succeed, but cannot change anything, he makes a seppuko!)
    1. 0
      27 January 2016 10: 44
      But what kind of a samurai is he, figs, a sneak that surfaced on the surface of an official bog, as a maximum. Where did he get the sword from? In the best case, a knife for opening correspondence. wink
  9. 0
    27 January 2016 09: 52
    They categorically disagree; we categorically disagreed with their categorical disagreement without unnecessarily categorical, lay and will lay.
  10. +1
    27 January 2016 09: 52
    I think bargaining is not appropriate here)))))
    1. 0
      27 January 2016 09: 53
      Give me back ..))
      1. +1
        27 January 2016 09: 55
        Let's pretend to some sort of territory .... let them prove that they are not camels) and there will be no peace treaty until it satisfies us))))
        1. 0
          27 January 2016 12: 20
          and there will be no peace treaty until it satisfies us))))


          What is the "peace treaty" with the surrendered?
          Enough 1956 decisions.
    2. +2
      27 January 2016 10: 06
      Quote: ILIA
      I think bargaining is not appropriate here)))))



      uh, you don’t have to rush. After two years the presidential election and it is not known who will win them. Maybe some liberal bastard who will sell not only the Kuril Islands will win.
  11. +2
    27 January 2016 09: 54
    We put a bolt on their consent or disagreement! Let the Americans say they disagree with their base in Okinawa!
    We are fucking for the Wishlist of the former samurai!
  12. +10
    27 January 2016 09: 55
    Not mine, well, terribly like:
    "Melted like a snowflake in my palm.
    Samurai life.
    Kalashnikov! " crying
  13. 0
    27 January 2016 09: 55
    (Japan considers the position of the Russian Federation on the South Kuril Islands unacceptable, but is not going to protest in connection with the statement of Sergey Lavrov on this issue.)

    And we US ​​... THAT! Let them repeat this mantra until they turn blue.
    "A hole for you from a donut, not the Kuril Islands ..." (G. Zhiglov). bully
  14. +7
    27 January 2016 09: 55
    Japan considers the position of the Russian Federation on the South Kuril Islands unacceptable

    Japan missed its chance to jointly develop the islands. Late to twitch when the process is complete. It may be necessary to write and remind the Japanese more often about the war crimes tribunal committed by Japan. And then they modestly do not remember the atomic bombing of the United States, but the islands they have in the foreground.
  15. +2
    27 January 2016 09: 56
    That's what restless, the eighth decade has gone, and they can’t sign the whole peace treaty, because they themselves are to blame, we didn’t start the war, so take offense gentlemen samurai.
  16. +1
    27 January 2016 09: 56
    They go to the goat ... with their Wishlist.
    Let them get ready for the cataclysm, narrow-film.
    Usually this is exactly what all their Wishlist ends at the expense of our islands.
    We need to equip our islands in terms of defense,
    so that they do not have such thoughts.
    And, you can also touch them nobly,
    arrange meetings with the Chinese there, discussions.
  17. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 05
    The main thing is that we agree. Including the fact that they do not agree with our consent.
  18. +4
    27 January 2016 10: 06
    The Kuril Islands are: beautiful places, huge reserves of hydrocarbons, natural resources (rare), huge stocks of seafood and the opportunity to consider the Sea of ​​Okhotsk -internal sea! I had to be, I know! Therefore, I consider the question of their affiliation settled, they are Russian forever and a point.
  19. +4
    27 January 2016 10: 06
    The Japs are dreaming of the Kuril Islands,
    To know not that they smoked again.
    Do not consume fly agaric
    And do not climb to us in the "Okhotsko sea".
    Let them hang in their brains
    Heavy weight:
    Is it time to make hara-kiri?
  20. Dam
    +1
    27 January 2016 10: 06
    Do not agree? There is only one way out - massive Harakiri. We got puppets already. To get started, take the American hand out of your ass, then it will be clear who is nodding, a Japanese politician or a State Department doll.
  21. +2
    27 January 2016 10: 07
    in my opinion so Japan is a toilet country - its America bent over with an atomic bomb, and they lick it backside - samurai negative
  22. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 07
    as Sharikov said "I do not agree"))
  23. +2
    27 January 2016 10: 12
    All their Japs islands profiled. Now - free. This is for Port Arthur and more.
  24. 3vs
    +1
    27 January 2016 10: 13
    As Russians, will we accept the Japanese region as part of Russia? laughing
    Then there will be no more questions!
    1. 0
      29 January 2016 06: 54
      The "Japanese region" will have the same population as the rest of Russia. And as citizens of Russia, they will legally begin to settle throughout the territory of our Motherland. And Russia will add crap with American bases, "now" already on its territory. Something like this is not a fusion to me.
  25. +2
    27 January 2016 10: 15
    We don’t need a foreign land, but we won’t give up our own. From a dead donkey ears and not the Kuril Islands to you Yapono mother. hi
  26. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 21
    Oh, the Japanese! Do you be sad?
  27. +1
    27 January 2016 10: 24
    the national fun of Japanese politicians to ask the Kuril Islands, well, that dreaming is not harmful, especially without sovereignty and being in occupation, damn figures
  28. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 24
    It is even strange that they "silently do not accept" only for the Kuril Islands, and they could also keep silent for Sakhalin.
  29. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 25
    Well, these Japanese already got it, they build themselves offended from themselves. Let them first free themselves from the US occupation, then maybe we can talk, but nothing more ...
  30. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 26
    “We consider the position of the Russian side to be completely unacceptable,” Haguyda noted. “The position of the Japanese government on this issue is clearly expressed, and we do not think about taking any concrete action in connection with these statements (Lavrov).”
    And we consider the position of the Japanese side completely unacceptable. The position of the Russian government on this issue is clearly expressed, and we are not thinking about taking any specific actions in connection with the statements of Hagiud.)))

    The South Kuril Islands became part of the USSR, the successor of which was Russia, according to the results of the Second World War, and Russian sovereignty over them, having the appropriate international legal design, is not in doubt.

    When it comes to the Kuril Islands, read it comes to the entire territory of the Asian component of the Russian Federation, and yes to everything. Not so sick, the Japanese want. I’m silent about the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. But without kaklov and their arming here it just could not have done.
  31. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 26
    "Tokyo" intends to continue to pursue an adequate policy on the issue of the territorial dispute with the Russian Federation. "
    And has she (Japan’s Kuril policy) ever been adequate?
  32. +2
    27 January 2016 10: 29
    Japan is a colony of the USA! Who is interested in the opinion of the colony?
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 10: 39
      that's just the point that no! Yes, there is ambition! But let THEY BEGIN TO US IN THE COURT will be filed for the NUCLEAR BOMBING of PEACE CITIES! then the conversation will be!
      and let them shut up!
  33. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 32
    The question is, who owns Okinawa, and what are the Americans doing there? You cannot decide what you have, because you are independent. Just give you, tomorrow there will be striped.
  34. +1
    27 January 2016 10: 33
    “We consider the position of the Russian side to be completely unacceptable,” Haguyda noted. “The position of the Japanese government on this issue is clearly expressed, and we do not think about taking any concrete action in connection with these statements (Lavrov).”

    We don’t think, because we can’t do anything. And indeed, they will stop supplying their goods to us.
    According to him, Tokyo "intends to continue to pursue an adequate policy in the matter of a territorial dispute with the Russian Federation."

    That is ... they will stupidly wait for Russia's weakening, for some reason. Or the corrupt liberals coming to power.

    I’m wondering ... do we ourselves need this peace treaty at all? What will it give us? And is it possible that there was some kind of piece of paper in the history that stopped anyone from the war? Ignore them completely! Goods? Let them carry it. Peace agreement? Only on the terms RF
  35. +1
    27 January 2016 10: 33
    So I look at all the attempts of Japan to return these islands and I have a question: WHY DO THEY WANT TO RETURN THEM THEM AND ONLY THEM !?
    If you look at the map of Japan after the First World War, then they can also sway at Sakhalin, part of Kamchatka, not to mention China, Vietnam and Korea.
    The question is THAT they there and ONLY forgot there! The islands are not so big, they will not be saved by this territory for the global expansion of the country.
    Perhaps they either hid something there in due time, well, or found something interesting, but could not take it out on time ...
    I understand that this is nonsense, but nevertheless, they reconciled after all with large losses of the territory!
  36. +2
    27 January 2016 10: 34
    Samurai go on the attack. Banzai!
  37. +2
    27 January 2016 10: 35
    In general, it is surprising - a country that has lost the war is trying to say something to the winners? Or there are no brains at all, or the American hand is so deep in theirs .. that holds them by the Adam's apple.
  38. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 46
    Quote: seti
    They have a chance to return the Kuril Islands.

    They have no chance
  39. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 49
    Iturup is the only economically viable rhenium deposit; Each year, the volcano emits, as part of volcanic gases, 20 tons of metal. World production, with 40-50 tons. Metal is very expensive and in demand.

    This is just one example, among other mineral wealth (which in Japan is tiny). Maybe this is the whole point?
    1. +2
      27 January 2016 11: 51
      add a little bit:
      On the islands and in the coastal zone, industrial reserves of non-ferrous metal ores, mercury, natural gas, and oil have been explored. On the island of Iturup, in the area of ​​the Kudryavy volcano, there is the richest rhenium mineral deposit known in the world. Here, at the beginning of the 1867th century, the Japanese mined native sulfur. The total gold resources in the Kuril Islands are estimated at 9284 tons, silver - 39,7 tons, titanium - 273 million tons, iron - XNUMX million tons. At present, there are few mining developments.
      по материалам https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D0%BA%D
      0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0
  40. +2
    27 January 2016 10: 55
    There is a document signed by Japan and the USSR. What kind of return can be discussed, gentlemen, the Japanese!? ...
  41. +1
    27 January 2016 10: 59
    We will start talking about the territories only if Japan is liberated from American occupation and there is a complete absence of a mattress-and-strip contingent on Japanese soil.
    We do not solve important issues with sixes. There is nothing to talk about.
    And what is not clear here? This small condition will long discourage the desire to raise the issue of the Kuril Islands.
  42. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 05
    Something the Japanese with their stupid obstinacy began to resemble crested monkeys))) That Crimea, yes put it down, this - the Kuril Islands ... The trend, however. Maybe I don’t understand something in high diplomacy, but it’s been very vain that they recently donated a piece of Russian territory to Norway and China. Apparently, the Japanese are genuinely perplexed - why are they worse than China. In general, others also wanted to.
  43. +2
    27 January 2016 11: 05
    The Japanese are not solos? well . they can clog into a corner and cry.
  44. +1
    27 January 2016 11: 05
    Met, exchanged views, diverged in views. Well, what do you need to set a date for a new meeting?
  45. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 05
    Quote: igordok
    I wonder why the word goat is considered obscene. laughing

    So is the goat, rooster, chicken, ram, sheep, bull, cow, donkey, deer, elk, pig, and almost half of all other animals, depending on the context. I.A. Krylov used this very subtly in his fables.
  46. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 11
    No need to distort and redraw maps, our Kuril Islands and the point.
  47. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 16
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Japan considers the position of the Russian Federation on the South Kuril Islands unacceptable

    Japan missed its chance to jointly develop the islands. Late to twitch when the process is complete. It may be necessary to write and remind the Japanese more often about the war crimes tribunal committed by Japan. And then they modestly do not remember the atomic bombing of the United States, but the islands they have in the foreground.

    So it has already reached the point of absurdity. Currently, most Japanese people strongly believe that the Russians dropped atomic bombs on Japan, and they chopped off the smokers from poor Japan. The results of American propaganda. Few people know the real story in Japan, and are not going to teach.
  48. +8
    27 January 2016 11: 17
    We don’t get tired and we giving out such an answer laughing
  49. +1
    27 January 2016 11: 23
    Japs broke off. Let them know and remember that it is impossible to fight with Russia, it will be unprofitable.
  50. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 25
    The Japanese do not agree well, rotten cuttlefish
    in their mouths.
  51. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 30
    Tokyo strongly disagrees with the Russian position on the Kuril Islands


    It’s as if Russia doesn’t ask Tokyo’s consent
  52. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 35
    Let these yapiks go to Evgenia. The ears are from a dead donkey. We will smoke like the Kuril Islands.
  53. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 36
    This peace treaty is needed exclusively for Japan. Japan still depends on the United States, so it will still fulfill its allied obligations, even to the point of military action against us. And the fact that we resolve the so-called territorial dispute will not change anything. We will not " good" under any circumstances. And any aggressors should know that if they attack Russia, they should prepare for losses.
  54. +1
    27 January 2016 11: 37
    A sucker-licker, not a Kuril Island!!!!
  55. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 38
    “We consider the position of the Russian side to be completely unacceptable,” Haguyda noted. “The position of the Japanese government on this issue is clearly expressed, and we do not think about taking any concrete action in connection with these statements (Lavrov).”

    No... You "think" all the time. It’s time to forget and “think.”
    #The Kuriles are ours.
  56. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 46
    The Japanese almost didn't make it in time. You had to grab everything they gave you. In the days of “the rampant democracy” (when the glorious EBN ruled, and even Kozyrev - the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and even Washington’s advisers in the government) for a good glass, and for a snack, they would even hand over to a friend - a samurai - whatever they wanted...
    EBN is “tired” at the wrong time...
    And now all that remains is to gnaw bamboo in impotent anger for missed opportunities....
  57. +1
    27 January 2016 11: 48
    Lavrov gave the answer and that’s it, there is no longer any need to react somehow to all their lamentations! hi
  58. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 54
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs must be moved from Smolensk Square to the Kuril Islands. To be heard better in Tokyo.
  59. 0
    27 January 2016 12: 45
    Quote: seti
    Well, we categorically disagree on the position of Japan. They have a chance to return the Kuril Islands. If they become the Japanese Autonomous Okrug within the Russian Federation. May they thank fate that Hokkaido is still theirs. And then you can reunite the Ainu people ..
    and without American bases on Japanese territory))
  60. 0
    27 January 2016 14: 09
    Previously, we and the Japanese at least held negotiations on this topic for the sake of appearance, thanks to which Japanese politicians could puff out their cheeks menacingly in front of their electorate, promising to return everything and soon. Then Japan supported sanctions against Russia, simultaneously expressing the hope that this would not affect good neighborly relations. For me personally, it’s the same as if my neighbor came up to me, hit me in the face with his fist and immediately asked sympathetically, “I hope you was not offended?". So paint a large “national Indian dwelling” on the wall for the Japanese and no negotiations on the Kuril Islands.
  61. 0
    27 January 2016 14: 27
    It must be openly stated that Japan cannot pursue an independent policy, since it is occupied by the United States. Therefore, at present, the Japanese do not have the right to raise the issue of the “disputed” islands.
    In fact, they are offering us to transfer the islands, including for the placement of new US military bases on their territory, which will be directed against Russia.

    DO WE NEED THIS?!
  62. 0
    27 January 2016 15: 19
    Quote: Mihalich17
    Well, and "who is their doctor"?
    Disagree, disagree! )))
    The main thing is that they heard what we told them!

    That’s it, now I won’t sleep, of course! Tokyo b..b. disagree! Categorically!
  63. 0
    27 January 2016 15: 27
    Quote: seti
    ... Let them thank fate that Hokkaido is still theirs. Otherwise we can reunite the Ainu people...


    Rather, it was not fate, but Stalin, who did not give the command of the Armed Forces to capture Hokkaido in 45. We limited ourselves to the Kuril Islands.
  64. 0
    27 January 2016 16: 08
    I immediately remember Port Arthur and Tsushima. ETERNAL MEMORY TO THE RUSSIAN SAILORS!
    They will never see our land!
  65. hartlend
    0
    27 January 2016 17: 16
    The Japanese leadership needs to think about what to do with the population when their islands go under water, and they are stubborn and cling to this piece of land. Everyone is trying to prove something to themselves.
  66. 0
    27 January 2016 17: 36
    We must close this issue regarding disputed territories forever!
    Declare to the Japanese government that Russia will never consider this issue again. Let him not even be raised in front of Russia.
    Or have you forgotten 1945? It was the Japanese who made harakiri for themselves, not us. We only cut off what belonged to us by right of history and the winner.
  67. 0
    27 January 2016 19: 54
    Tokyo strongly disagrees with the Russian position on the Kuril Islands

    Aaaahahahaha wassat Like or not, sleep my beauty! bully
  68. 0
    27 January 2016 20: 55
    It's not so simple with the islands.
    Khrushchev, Brezhnev and Gorbaty tried to solve this problem, there is no need to talk about EBN, he was ready to give up two islands.
    Yaps - no, all four and YuzhSakh.
    Only the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will cease to be inland. Those. our submarines can be cut down.
    In this case, all relations (economic, political, etc.) begin with the issue of “northern territories”.
    Who laid this bonbu into the most profitable relationship between the Yap and the USSR (ERAFIA). Again - the Yankees.
    Same bullshit with the Ukrainians, who put the “bonbu” in the relationship between Germany and the Russian Federation.
    Give back Crimea...
    Who is so smart and is in charge of the processes?
    And how to solve these problems?
  69. 0
    28 January 2016 00: 30
    Lavrov is handsome - my grandfather and I are only for it, let the yappies shut up and God forbid that there are no traitors in our government who would betray the blood of our ancestors
  70. +3
    28 January 2016 16: 59
    These Americans are bad people! They muddy the waters wherever they go. Here, as with Crimea, whoever owns Crimea owns the Black Sea. Whoever owns the Southern Kuril Islands owns the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and has strategic superiority in the entire Pacific theater of operations.
    I was born in Yuzhno-Kurilsk, for Kunashir and all the islands I will tear my mouth apart!
    I really don’t know how many of us there are like me.
  71. 0
    28 January 2016 20: 05
    For starters, let them return the royal gold if they really need these islands. The next step will be from this. And then it will be possible to conduct a constructive dialogue. From their side.
  72. 0
    28 January 2016 20: 12
    Quote: not a Jew
    Quote: ILIA
    I think bargaining is not appropriate here)))))



    uh, you don’t have to rush. After two years the presidential election and it is not known who will win them. Maybe some liberal bastard who will sell not only the Kuril Islands will win.

    That's exactly it, sorry! I just can’t imagine the future of Russia without Lavrov, Putin and Shoigu..
  73. 0
    28 January 2016 20: 34
    Well, then let's propose that the p...yz reconsider the results of the war of 1905, they don't want to return anything to us? True, I’ll have to take it away from China, if I haven’t completely forgotten the cards.
  74. 0
    28 January 2016 21: 54
    Their clowns change as often as our premieres under Yeltsin. And everyone should note that “he tried”...
  75. 0
    28 January 2016 22: 00
    This is such impudence, as if we attacked them at the beginning of the century (you never know what the Tsar of All Rus' can say), shoved our bogeyman into the Far East and now they should get away with everything. We need to pummel them with recognition of the results of World War II, every month, every week.
  76. 0
    29 January 2016 05: 31
    Quote: Max_Bauder
    We don’t get tired and we giving out such an answer laughing

    good
  77. 0
    29 January 2016 09: 06
    A donut hole for them, not the Kuril Islands.
  78. 0
    29 January 2016 10: 01
    I propose to change the emphasis and discuss with the Japanese the ownership of the island of Hokkaido as a disputed territory.
  79. 0
    29 January 2016 13: 53
    It is clear that there should be no talk at all about the Kuril Islands with Japan. But I often wonder. Sooner or later, the president will change. God willing, there will be the same person who is not afraid to say NO to the same Japanese. It won't be corrupt. What if the liberals, as a result of their betrayal and foreign force, seize power. Then how? Then the Kuril Islands will be sold, and Crimea will be given away, and so on. And the country will collapse. Why is the current government so liberal with all sorts of scumbags now? Maybe we need to introduce some tough measures against them? For the sake of future generations, and don’t be altruistic.....
  80. 0
    29 January 2016 17: 21
    The Ho...l Islands are in your palms, yellow-faced n..Japs...
  81. 0
    29 January 2016 17: 32
    Not so long ago, our former Prime Minister M. Kasyanov said that if he comes to power, he will return Crimea to Ukraine... and this is really a problem, who will come to power after V. Putin, because in our country a large number of people have divorced who, for the sake of they will sell their own mother...
    The Japanese will wait for such a traitor to their fatherland to resolve their issue regarding the Kuril Islands, for them, you see, it’s a “loss of face”, but for us, isn’t it? Just start with Japan, and then there’s Estonia, Finland, and there’s still “x” a cloud of people who want to tear apart ours borders and territories connect.
    They are all just waiting for our weakness, thoughtlessness and...betrayal at the highest level of power!!!
    That is why society, each of us, if he is a patriot of his Russia, must realize that the post of president of our country should, first of all, be a statesman, and not just any corrupt bastard serving other people’s, overseas interests. V. Putin is not ideal, but I don’t see an alternative to him yet!!
  82. gcn
    0
    29 January 2016 17: 45
    When it was weak, when everything was falling apart, they didn’t give it back, but now it’s better to butt heads with China, it will be more productive.
  83. gcn
    0
    29 January 2016 17: 56
    I once watched a film about the atrocities of the Japanese in World War II, in the year 2, and you know, I don’t want this nation to exist, these are my first impressions, of course, after watching it...And after that, this demands something from us.
  84. 0
    29 January 2016 18: 14
    I don’t understand the Russians... Send these Japs out into the forest and no longer conduct any negotiations with them on this topic. And for greater persuasiveness, INTRODUCTION TO THE TEXT OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE COUNTRY A PROVISION FORBIDDING ANYONE TO NEGOTIATE ON THIS TOPIC. To negotiate with an occupied country is to disrespect yourself!
  85. 0
    29 January 2016 19: 04
    It’s high time to bill Japan for the capture of Sakhalin Island and the murder of our people! For 32 thousand lives lost in 45 and send them to 3 words!!!!
  86. +1
    29 January 2016 19: 09
    The USA gave them an atomic bomb - friends, Russia returned itss - they are dissatisfied! Man, I don’t understand you cross-eyed people. request
  87. 0
    29 January 2016 19: 09
    What the heck is a “territorial dispute”? As a result of the Russo-Japanese War, ALL the Kuril Islands and South Sakhalin went to Japan. As a result of WW2, ALL, not only the Southern Kuril Islands, and South Sakhalin were ceded to the USSR.
    What dispute?
    IMHO this is not Japan, but the USA. Any officer of the surface navy will confirm that the value of Yu. Kuril lies only in the fact that the surface navy from Vladivostok can jump out into the ocean through the ice-free straits in the shortest possible way. Otherwise, we would have to bypass Japan from the south, i.e. + several thousand km.
  88. 0
    29 January 2016 19: 30
    And let them remain dissenters. Who cares? If they want to argue over territory, let them argue among themselves! We wouldn’t give them their toys for nothing.
  89. 0
    29 January 2016 19: 58
    Yes, Japan doesn’t need the Kuril Islands, the states need them, so they are making trouble. Will you dig up the land for sowing with poplars?))))) fellow
  90. Mih
    0
    29 January 2016 21: 28
    “We consider the position of the Russian side completely unacceptable. Japan considers the Russian position on the South Kuril Islands unacceptable.” belay

    And the slanted one who commanded the interrogation told me: the Vietnamese Li Si Tsin knocked down the crown. love
  91. 0
    30 January 2016 05: 26
    And all these things are the result of the fact that at the end of the Great Patriotic War (!) we were very relaxed and did not bring all matters to their logical conclusion. Of course, the people, the country, the wars - everyone was very tired of the war, Berlin was the finale. But for the present, it would be more logical to go to the English Channel (or perhaps further), and the Japanese islands definitely needed to be freed from the Japanese militarists.
  92. 0
    30 January 2016 06: 36
    Japan should not be allowed to raise this issue for discussion whenever it feels like it. It seems that it has crossed acceptable limits. Is it hoping to add pressure or something? But Russia, speaking correctly, is not going to give something to someone. Apparently that clientele once thought so.

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