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Influenza in Russia. What threatens public health and why not panic?

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Seasonal exacerbation of influenza diseases continues in Russia. In a number of regions of the country the epidemiological threshold of morbidity has been seriously exceeded, there are also lethal cases. In addition to the quite typical for this time of year SARS, the so-called “swine flu” - A (H1N1) is distributed.


In a number of mass media, and especially in social networks, rumors are spreading that you cannot call anything but panic. Some users write that the flu literally "mows down" the Russians, almost hundreds of them die in every city. Of course, the actual situation is very different from what conscious or spontaneous alarmists write about. Doctors ask people not to panic, keep calm and sober mind, but many do not always succeed. Of course, there are reasons for this - in the information society, any information, including negative information, is spread very quickly. And often - by the method of "spoiled phone". Each user adds to the information received their own conjectures, rumors, often without any basis, and in this form already translates the information further. In an interview with Lente.ru, the chief researcher of the Institute of Vaccines and Serums named after I.I. Mechnikova Yuri Gendon assures that there is no emergency situation associated with a massive flu epidemic. According to the doctor, this is the most common flu epidemic that occurs every year. Winter weather, temperature drops - all this leads to a wide spread of ARVI. But many people do not consider it necessary to be vaccinated, and pharmacies in insufficient quantities purchase pharmaceutical products. We can add to these words of a specialist only that the shortage of medicines in pharmacies in several cities is directly related to the spread of panic among the population. People rush to buy medicines, medical masks literally on an “industrial scale”.

Epidemiological threshold exceeded in regions

A difficult situation has developed in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Rospotrebnadzor reported that the epidemiological threshold in Moscow was exceeded by 40%, and therefore quarantine was announced in the Russian capital.

Elena Andreeva, the chief sanitary doctor of Moscow, told Russian journalists that the situation in the capital is estimated as epidemiological. According to Rospotrebnadzor, 61% of people with influenza are children. In St. Petersburg, as reported by the media, the 22 person has already died from pneumonia. Rospotrebnadzor also reported that last week 18-24 in January exceeded the epidemiological thresholds in 47 regions of the Russian Federation, and among large cities - in Vladimir, Kursk, Kaliningrad, Kazan, Cheboksary, Samara, Syktyvkar, Yekaterinburg.

Influenza in Russia. What threatens public health and why not panic?


The most severe epidemiological situation with the incidence of influenza has developed in the south of Russia. Mass incidence of influenza is noted in the Rostov and Volgograd regions, the Krasnodar Territory, Adygea, other territories, regions and republics of the region. In Adygea, according to press reports, 11 people died, on the Don - 8 people. Lyudmila Tsybalova, Deputy Director of the Flu Research Institute of the Ministry of Health and Social Development of the Russian Federation, explains the increased incidence of southerners by the fact that earlier the flu was not so common in the regions of Southern Russia and the North Caucasus, therefore the majority of people in the region are not immune to the disease. Recently it became known that the Ministry of Health of the Rostov Region acknowledged the fact that the epidemiological threshold for the incidence of influenza and ARVI in the region was exceeded. According to the regional Ministry of Health, in Rostov-on-Don, there were about 8 000 cases of influenza and ARVI. This figure is 73% higher than the incidence of a week ago. In addition, it is known only about those cases of the disease, when patients seek help from doctors. But many people prefer to carry the disease "on their feet." And this is especially dangerous - by endangering their own health, they infect other people by contacting them at work, school, in public transport, in crowded places. Eight deaths are also known. So, in one of the city hospitals died a three-year-old girl. Young men also died - 31 and 35 years. The disease does not spare health workers. So, January 26 became aware of the death of pneumonia by the head of the maternity ward of the Central City Hospital of Kamensk-Shakhtinsky Rostov region. Nina Fedorovna Shumilina died on January 25 near 22.00. An unprecedented incident occurred in one of the Rostov hospitals - a young 34-year-old man died of pneumonia right in the hospital lobby, not waiting for his turn to see a doctor. However, doctors say that the flu itself can not be fatal, but its complications, which include pneumonia, may well be fatal. But, according to the Minister of Health of the Rostov Region, Tatyana Bykovskaya, all deaths are associated with very late treatment for qualified medical care. As the head of the medical department noted, already on the second day, the doctors see changes in the lungs, on the third day pneumonia begins, and after five to six days the disease can become irreversible. Deputy Head of the Administration of Rostov-on-Don on Social Issues, Viktor Berezhnoy, stressed that the city’s epidemiological threshold was indeed exceeded, but it’s not worth talking about a critical situation. Most of the city’s institutions operate normally. It is known that 6 schools and 13 kindergartens were closed in the Rostov region in connection with cases of mass incidence of influenza and ARVI, 42 classes in 11 schools and 27 groups in 20 kindergartens were partially closed. All educational institutions are closed for quarantine, where the epidemiological threshold of morbidity has been exceeded. However, the overwhelming majority of schools and kindergartens of the region function normally. Deputy Head of the Administration of Rostov-on-Don on Social Issues, Viktor Berezhnoy, at a meeting with the Head of Administration Sergey Gorban, said that so far the city has not exceeded the epidemiological threshold for influenza in the city.

However, the fact that the incidence of influenza is indeed very increased, indicates the extension of the time of work of district clinics. Emergency help can now be obtained before 22.00. In addition, the leadership of the regional Ministry of Health agreed with the Rostov State Medical University that interns and interns will come to the aid of the current doctors and medical assistants. This decision was made in order to increase the speed of medical services for the population. After all, ambulance crews and district therapists are struggling to cope with large flows of patients. Polyclinics of the Krasnodar Territory also switched to enhanced operation. In the cities and villages of Kuban, the situation with the incidence of influenza also remains very serious. Although the regional authorities have not yet announced an epidemic, nevertheless, deaths also occur in the Krasnodar Territory. One of the first victims of the deadly flu in the Krasnodar Territory was a pregnant woman from a small Armavir. In late January, she was to give birth to a child. According to representatives of the regional medical department, the woman herself repeatedly refused to go to the hospital. On the other hand, the relatives of the deceased tell reporters that, on the contrary, medical facilities did not accept her. Krasnodar Region Health Minister Yevgeny Filippov claims that 40% of the population received flu vaccinations in the region and, like his Rostov colleague Tatyana Bykovskaya, stresses that in no case should you resort to self-treatment. The situation in neighboring Adygea, where about a thousand people got the flu, is no easier. The number of vaccinated, judging by the publications in the press, is less here than in the Krasnodar Territory - 25% of the population of the republic received vaccinations. The Adygea Health Minister Rustem Meretukov claims that it is premature to talk about the swine flu epidemic in the republic. But here, as well as in other regions of the South of Russia, hospitals are forced to open additional chambers - there are not enough places for all incoming patients with influenza and ARVI. In the Volgograd region, more than 30% of the population was vaccinated. However, here, as Anatoly Sebelev, deputy chairman of the oblast health committee, notes, swine flu is diagnosed in 75% of cases.

Influenza come from Ukraine?

Meanwhile, the Minister of Health and Social Development of the Russian Federation, Veronika Skvortsova, not so long ago stated that the massive incidence of influenza could be the consequence of bringing the disease from neighboring Ukraine. Indeed, in Ukraine, the situation with the medical care of the population and, especially, preventive maintenance, has deteriorated several times after the general destabilization of the political and socio-economic situation in the country. In the conditions of war, economic crisis, destruction of the former social infrastructure, the state of health of the population is much worse than it was before the authorities. And this is despite the fact that even before the events on Maidan, the Ukrainian healthcare system was not distinguished by high efficiency. Therefore, although the liberal opposition is skeptical about the assertion of the penetration of the disease from neighboring Ukraine, this version seems quite reasonable. On the other hand, in the conditions of a large-scale crisis in a neighboring country, the Russian authorities were supposed to take measures that minimize the risks of dangerous diseases entering the Russian Federation from the territory of Ukraine. In the first place - to tighten sanitary control over the citizens of this state entering the territory of the Russian Federation. Of course, these measures would not completely eliminate the spread of the flu, but at least they could contribute to more effective prevention of morbidity in Russia itself. The representatives of the Kiev regime themselves do not hide the fact that an extremely serious situation with the incidence of influenza has developed in Ukraine. Thus, the Minister of Health of Ukraine, Alexander Kvitashvili, told reporters that the epidemiological threshold for the incidence of influenza and ARVI was exceeded in 18 from 24 regions of Ukraine. Oleg Ruban, chief state sanitary doctor of the city of Kiev, told reporters that the situation with the incidence of influenza is severe in the Ukrainian capital - the growth rate is 50%, in just one day several thousand people visit Kiev hospitals. The main problem is that people go to a medical facility already at the 7-8 day of illness, when doctors may be powerless, because the process of destruction of the lungs has gone very far. In addition to Kiev, a very difficult situation is observed in the Rivne region, a rather difficult situation in a number of other regions of Western Ukraine. Thus, the epidemic has spread to almost the entire country. Against the background of mass impoverishment of the population, even the acquisition of elementary drugs for many Ukrainian citizens becomes a real problem.

The network has information that the flu "mows down" the ranks of the Ukrainian military in the Donbas. So, even representatives of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine recognized that more than 400 people were ill among Ukrainian soldiers and officers. True, there are no official reports of deaths among military personnel, but given the general reluctance of the Ukrainian command to draw attention to this problem, it is possible that they have already taken place - especially in the units operating in the Donbas. It is known that the Ukrainian soldiers fighting in the Donbas are in very poor living conditions. As a rule, they live in tents, in rainy weather the hastily built tent camps are flooded with water. In these conditions, even without an epidemic, many soldiers suffer from various forms of bronchitis and pneumonia. Naturally, the proper preventive work among the existing units is practically not conducted. Therefore, the spread of the influenza virus found fertile ground in the army units in the Donbas. Almost immediately after the start of the epidemic, the soldiers of the Ukrainian army began to get sick dozens. With medical care from 1 on January 2016, the hospital and medical units turned 189 soldiers and officers in the Donetsk area, 104 - in Lugansk and 67 in the Mariupol direction, - said the spokesman for the headquarters of the "antiterrorist operation" . However, representatives of the press service of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, called the situation satisfactory and asked not to raise panic - they say, there are not so many sick soldiers. Meanwhile, representatives of the Ministry of Defense of the Donetsk People's Republic speak about a much larger scale of the flu epidemic among Ukrainian servicemen. According to the information that is available in the Ministry of Defense of the DPR, there are already not enough places in the hospitals of the Ukrainian army, such a large number of sick soldiers. The version that the spread of the disease could have been caused by the leakage of the flu strain from some secret laboratory located near Kharkov was also voiced. In this laboratory, American bacteriological specialists could conduct their tests. arms, some media reported. By the way, representatives of the health system of the DPR do not deny the fact of the spread of the flu. According to Donetsk doctors, to date, people in the republic have already died from complications of influenza 12. That is, the situation with the spread of influenza in the DPR remains very difficult.

By the way, if we turn to the version of the spread of swine flu as a consequence of an accidental or intentional “leakage of strains” from a secret American laboratory, then we cannot ignore the strange events on the border between Armenia and Georgia. There are flu cases around 10 people. It is quite an ordinary situation, if it were not for the fact that even in this area, outbreaks of a variety of dangerous diseases occurred - anthrax, swine flu, bird flu. Some media outlets are suspected of being involved in the spread of disease by an American research center operating in Georgia.



"Spaniard" killed millions of people

History knows examples of mass epidemics of influenza, whose victims were thousands of people in various countries of the world. One of the largest such epidemics has become the famous epidemic of the “Spanish flu” - the Spanish flu. She followed in 1918-1919, immediately after the end of the First World War. However, in terms of the number of deaths from the disease, the “Spanish flu” fairly quickly exceeded human losses as a result of the First World War itself. There are several major versions of the origin of the flu epidemic in 1918-1920. According to the first of them, the flu to Europe was brought by American soldiers who landed to participate in the First World War. According to this version, the disease began at Fort Riley in the US state of Kansas in January-February 1918, from where it was subsequently brought to Europe. There were cases of bronchitis among British soldiers who fought on the territory of France. The second version claims not the American, but the Asian origin of the disease - according to this version, the Chinese labor battalions, also landed in France, brought the flu to Europe. Finally, the third version suggests the possibility of the emergence of influenza directly in Spain, where in 1918, mass cases of the incidence of bronchitis began to be noted. Doctors have identified the main symptoms of the disease - blue complexion (cyanosis), pneumonia, cough with hemoptysis. But in most cases, the disease was asymptomatic. Some people died the very next day after infection, and among the dead there were not only risk categories - pregnant women, children, the elderly, but also young people between the ages of twenty and forty. The cause of the high mortality rate of the disease is a particularly dangerous form of influenza, soon named “Spanish”, was hypercytokinemia, which resulted in the destruction of inflamed lung tissue and filling of the lungs with liquid.

The spread of the disease went very quickly. Since the period of the end of World War I was characterized by large displacements of people, the disease spread due to migration flows. European and then American states took a wide variety of measures to prevent the spread of the disease, most often prohibitive. Public places were closed - schools, theaters, cinemas, even churches and judicial institutions. The disease acquired the most epidemic character in France, where by the end of April 1918 it had spread to Paris. Almost simultaneously with France, the disease entered Italy, then - to Switzerland, Portugal, Serbia, Greece. In June 1918, the epidemic began in Great Britain, Germany, Sweden, and in July 1918 in Denmark, the Netherlands, Belgium, and Poland. In Spain alone, by May 1918, more than 8 million people had the flu, which at that time made up 39% of the country's population. Among the sick was the Spanish king Alfons XIII himself. Around the same time, the spread of the disease began outside of Europe - in North Africa, then - in India. However, by August 1918, a decline in the incidence of disease began. Given the initially low mortality from the disease, there was no particular panic at the beginning of 1918. The situation changed dramatically after the start of the second wave of the epidemic. Unlike the first wave, the second wave appeared outside Europe - in West Africa, and more precisely - in the British colony of Sierra Leone, from where at the end of August 1918 the disease spread again - first to all of West Africa, then to the United States. The disease was brought to North America by soldiers returning from Europe after the end of the First World War. The epidemic took on a catastrophic scale in India, where tens of millions of people fell ill. Entire villages died out of the epidemic in some parts of India, which was not surprising in general, given the general lack of hygiene, lack of drugs and medical specialists. By the end of 1918, the disease spread to almost all countries of the world, with the exception of Australia, New Caledonia and Madagascar. In Great Britain, the Spaniard was most widespread in London, where a massive disease of the working population began, accompanied by extremely high mortality. British only navy deaths amounted to 2 people, although military sailors are not the category that could have previously complained about poor health.



In February, 1919 began the third wave of the epidemic, which, unlike the first two waves, penetrated into remote island territories. The third wave was also accompanied by an extremely high mortality rate among sick people, and not only representatives of risk categories died, but also young people. The exact number of people who have been ill with the flu is still unknown, apparently, it’s about 500-600 million people. The disease has even penetrated Australia and New Zealand - and this despite the extremely tough quarantine measures taken by the leadership of these countries. Back in 1918, Australia was free from an epidemic, but at the beginning of 1919, Australian soldiers who had fought on the fronts of World War I began to return to the country. Accordingly, the quarantine regime weakened, and together with the “demobilization”, the epidemic of the “Spanish flu” penetrated into the country. In New Zealand, the epidemic "Spaniard" began even earlier - in August 1918, then it spread to the Samoa archipelago, where, due to insufficient level of medical care, the disease died to 25% of the island population. However, in Eastern Samoa, due to very tough quarantine measures, the epidemic has not penetrated - all the victims of the disease lived in Western Samoa.

It was 1920 the number of people who died of influenza on the territory of Soviet Russia (RSFSR) was 3 000 000 people, in China 9 500 000 people, in India 18 500 000 people, in Indonesia 1 500 000 people, in Mexico around 1000000675000XNUMX people in Mexico in the USA - XNUMX XNUMX people. As we can see, the greatest victims of the “Spanish flu” fall in the countries of Asia and Latin America, where there was an unsatisfactory level of medical care, and the population did not even have initial ideas about hygiene. But even in developed countries, the epidemic has caused the death of hundreds of thousands of people. Thus, in the United States of America, the second wave of influenza has spread 28 August 1918. Only in Massachusetts, from the "Spaniard" died for 4 of the month 15 thousands of people. In October 1918 the flu has spread to the largest cities in the country - New York, San Francisco and New Orleans. The disease has even penetrated Alaska. It is known that in 1918-1920's. "Spanish flu" has had about a third of the US population. 675 of thousands of American citizens died, and mortality was highest in certain social, age and ethnic groups of the American population. So, in one of the Eskimo settlements, 85% of the population died. The epidemic of "Spanish" has spread to the US Army. If during the First World War, 34 killed thousands of troops of the American army, then two years of an epidemic caused the death of 43 to thousands of American soldiers and officers. The epidemic dealt a severe blow to demographics in the United States of America. But in continental Europe, from where the Spaniard began its mass distribution, a large number of people died. Practically in every European country, from tens of thousands to several hundred thousand people died: in Spain there are about 300 000 people, in France - 420 000 people, in Germany - 600 000 people. Modern researchers, speaking of the number of victims of the "Spaniard", reported more than 41 million. man who died from this disease. Among the famous victims of the “Spaniard” are the famous Russian revolutionary and one of the leaders of the Soviet government, Jacob Sverdlov, the classic of sociology Max Weber, the French poet Guillaume Apollinaire, the Russian film actress Vera Cold. A serious situation has developed in Soviet Russia, where, as a result of the revolutionary confusion, the social infrastructure, including the medical care of the population, was significantly weakened. At the same time, it should be noted that in the terrible years of the Civil War, the “Spanish flu” was just one of the dangerous epidemics that swept over the territory of Russia. So, at the beginning of 1918 on the territory of present-day Kazakhstan, outbreaks of the plague began. Between 1920 and 1922 there were outbreaks of plague in Transbaikalia and Manchuria. In Manchuria, about 4,5 thousands of people died from plague in the Far East - 600 people died. In 1918 was outbreaks of cholera were observed in 40 Russian provinces in Central Asia and Siberia. In 1921 was cholera epidemic reached its apogee, differing enormous casualties among the population. At the same time, in 1918-1920, Russia was also overtaken by a colossal epidemic of typhus and relapsing typhus. People died from typhus by thousands, hospitals could not accommodate all patients. Among patients with typhus, dying to 18-20%. In a number of areas of the Volga region, the Caucasus, Central Asia, an epidemic of malaria has begun, which has spread far beyond the usual territories of the spread of this disease. Only in 1921 11,3% of the total number of cases of malaria died. However, it should be noted that at that time the diseases spread across Russia unevenly, covering different groups of the population. That is, the epidemiological picture was very complicated and "mosaic" - in one region cholera could rage, in the other - typhoid.

We must not panic, and engage in prevention

Although nowadays there are more and more parallels between the epidemic of the “Spanish flu” of the early twentieth century and the current rapid spread of the virus of “swine flu” in Russia, yet it would be wrong to put an equal sign between the two cases. First of all, because the scale of morbidity and the number of victims in both cases are extremely different. Chief Researcher, Institute of Vaccines and Serums Mechnikova, Yuri Gendon, in an interview with Lente.ru, reports that in comparison with ordinary epidemics, the current epidemic is not so terrible. The scientist connects the presence of a significant number of deaths of the disease with the fact that people diagnose the disease and begin treatment too late. Many Russians rely on their own health, self-medicating, while continuing to go to work. Yuri Gendon emphasizes that it is impossible to stop the massive spread of the virus without vaccination. But there are elementary rules that should be followed in case of illness. First of all, when symptoms of the disease appear, one should not leave the house - it is necessary to observe the regime, and not to go out. Otherwise, inevitable complications, and not only associated with pneumonia, but also with other serious diseases. For example, there is a risk of getting otitis and, as a result, deafness.



It should be noted that the spread of influenza in the Russian Federation, like any other epidemic, is a threat to the national security of the Russian state. Therefore, first of all, the state should take care to take the measures that will be directed: 1) to minimize the further spread of the disease, 2) to increase the overall efficiency of medical services for the population of the country, 3) to strengthen the external sanitary security of the Russian state. In particular, we are talking about increasing the control over foreign citizens arriving in the Russian Federation. It is widely known that in many former Soviet republics after the collapse of the USSR, the health care system turned out to be virtually destroyed. A full-fledged medical examination of the population is not being conducted; in schools, children practically do not inculcate ideas about hygiene and the prevention of dangerous diseases. Therefore, visitors from a number of socially and economically and politically unfavorable countries are a potential risk factor for the spread of diseases in Russia. Currently, it is known that Norway deports a part of Syrian refugees who have entered the country from the territory of Russia, back to the territory of the Russian Federation. Accordingly, materials appeared on the press about whether refugees from Syria would contribute to the further spread of a dangerous disease. However, Russian doctors have so far denied this threat, reporting that among Syrian refugees deported from Norway to the Russian Federation, no cases of influenza have been identified yet.

The second important point is the timely organization of preventive maintenance of the population. It is difficult to deny the fact that the collapse of the Soviet Union had a negative impact on the general state of domestic health care. Despite the fact that Soviet medicine was far from perfect, it covered the entire population of the country, including preventive control. In the Soviet Union, many dangerous diseases were defeated, and the general health of the population was seriously monitored. The collapse of large-scale industry, in which millions of Soviet citizens worked, led to the actual destruction of medicine in enterprises. The quality of medical control in educational institutions has significantly decreased. Naturally, all of this in aggregate affected the overall state of the Russian health care system and what we are seeing today - in connection with cases of massive flu-related illness - including is a natural consequence of the deterioration of the disease prevention system. However, no one has abolished the need for individual prophylaxis by every person seeking to protect himself, his family and friends from being infected with the flu. Former Chief Sanitary Inspector of the Russian Federation, Deputy Prime Minister Gennady Onishchenko called for special attention to be paid to the prevention of influenza. He advises citizens: 1) to wear a gauze bandage to protect others and himself; 2) get a flu shot; 3) adjust the food in the direction of the use of more vitamins; 4) reject attempts to treat colds through the use of alcoholic beverages - this will only adversely affect the general state of health; 5) air the room more often; 6) wash hands more often; 7) avoid hypothermia; 8) do not self-medicate and in the case of symptoms of the disease, consult a doctor. However, despite the undoubted correctness of Gennady Onishchenko in the cited recommendations, it is still worth noting that no individual prevention will be as effective on a national scale as a centralized strategy of preventive measures implemented by the state.

Another point - the state of pharmacies. Despite the fact that the number of private pharmacies in modern Russia has increased many times over the Soviet period of national history, in crisis and difficult situations, many pharmacy chains demonstrate their unwillingness to fulfill their main function - providing the population with topical drugs. It is known that the spread of the flu caught many of the country's pharmacies by surprise. Medical masks, ointments, pills were instantly bought up, after which in a number of cities residents began to complain about the shortage of pharmaceuticals. This is also a direct omission of the existing health care system, which, in fact, does not control the pharmacist-private owners and their work. Another extremely negative point should also be noted - the reluctance of local officials to inform about the real situation with the disease and the higher authorities and the population. And if the population is not informed for reasons of preventing panic, then regional and municipal officials are simply afraid to inform higher authorities. But after all, alarmists, including conscious, prepaid ones, who are trying to force the situation to make at least a small contribution to the destabilization of the political situation in the country, play on the hushing up of the real situation. It is possible that the deliberate fanning of the hype around a difficult situation with the flu is associated precisely with the desire of certain external and internal forces to destabilize the political situation in the country. Indeed, in the conditions of the spread of alarming rumors, the emergence of panic, the masses are becoming more susceptible to all sorts of manipulative technologies and “stuffing” than can be used by anti-state forces.

In fact, almost every year, about 40 000 people die from flu in Russia. Of course, the official cause of their death is not the flu, but its complications - pneumonia, meningitis, heart failure. But medical specialists are well aware of what is at stake. Unfortunately, people are mortal and there are always those whose body, weakened by chronic diseases or other factors, is not able to cope with the disease - especially if treatment is started out of time or doctors turned for help too late. In fact, every adult person should himself control his state of health and, when it changes for the worse, turn to medical specialists. But in order for such a concern for one’s own health to take root among the Russian population, it is necessary to create appropriate conditions on the part of the state. This - and increasing the availability of medicine - medical services, medicines, not only in the material sense of accessibility, but also in terms of the ability to find the right medicine at a pharmacy or visit a specialist doctor. Of course, to ensure the health of the population applies to monitoring compliance with employer labor legislation. It is known that many private entrepreneurs prefer not to give their employees sick leave, forcing even sick employees to come to work. This creates a threat to the health and life of not only the employees themselves, but also their colleagues, any other people with whom they communicate in the process of work. Therefore, such cases should be identified and severely punished, especially if the profile of the activity of a particular enterprise involves systematic work with people. In the meantime, the Russians can only wait for the end of the epidemic, observing the necessary preventive recommendations. According to the Chief Therapist of the Ministry of Health and Social Development of the Russian Federation, Alexander Chuchalin, the flu epidemic in Russia will end only by May 2016. Medic calls attention to three waves of flu. The most intense wave usually lasts two to three weeks, and then gradually subsides. The second wave comes five to six weeks after the start of the first wave and is characterized by a less active pace. Finally, the third wave comes in April-May and in these months the flu is no longer as aggressive as in the winter period, and the death rate from the flu significantly decreases.
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  1. 31rus
    31rus 27 January 2016 06: 38
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    Dear, but you are to blame for all Ukrainians, Americans, Georgians, or you can simply restore your medicine, prevent disease, citizens themselves take their health more seriously, which is when there are no ordinary masks in St. Petersburg, you don’t need to look for any machinations, covering up own negligence
    1. Skif83
      Skif83 27 January 2016 07: 45
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      Well, nonsense!
      I agree that the author is trying to look for reasons where they do not exist.
      But here it is:
      Lyudmila Tsybalova, deputy director of the influenza research institute of the Ministry of Health and Social Development of the Russian Federation, explains the increased incidence of southerners because earlier the flu was not so prevalent in the regions of southern Russia and the North Caucasus, therefore, the majority of the region’s inhabitants are characterized by a lack of immunity to this disease
      already from the series - Kashchenko’s day off ...
      These are our research institutes.
      Actually, this is the Twitter government, such as administrators, Duma thinkers of different stripes.
      The ignoramuses rule the ball in Russia!
      And, I agree, you just need to restore Soviet medicine!
      In general, it’s necessary not to spit everything Soviet, but to restore a lot that successfully competed and exceeded the capitalist!
      But for this, SPECIALISTS are needed everywhere, and not miscarriages of Gaidar's schools of "economics" (just from their economics, somewhere EK-aet all the time!) practice, in the sciences that have not been abolished by anyone, such as political economy, where, if you remove the excessive communist propaganda, everything was in the mind.
      I affirm that we are stepping on the same rake.
      Why did the USSR collapse, because at the time the country was ruled not by those who built and raised all this, but the "theoreticians" of Marxism-Leninism and the Komsomol leaders.
      Who went to the political workers in the 70-80s, who did not know how and who did not want to work! REMEMBER ,,,!
      Who is in power now?
      Those who raised plants and factories from scratch, agricultural production? It is from scratch and not at the expense of the stolen state funds!
      Those who raised the social sphere and education to "unprecedented" heights?
      Analyze yourself who rushed to EP? All bastards, ignoramuses, embezzlers, etc.
      Who is now in the local administrations in the regions? That we have only one governor stealing, taking bribes, etc.?
      Those. again in power the same upstarts, the same ignoramuses, the same mediocrity ...
      That's why we are not developing.
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 27 January 2016 08: 38
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        The ignoramuses rule the ball in Russia!
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        Meanwhile, homotolerant Canada again surprised. The Minister of Health was appointed a physician, the ministry teacher, and the miner of the coal industry. Well pid-ss, what do you take?
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        2. atalef
          atalef 27 January 2016 11: 01
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          Quote: guzik007
          The ignoramuses rule the ball in Russia!
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          Meanwhile, homotolerant Canada again surprised. The Minister of Health was appointed a physician, the ministry teacher, and the miner of the coal industry. Well pid-ss, what do you take?

          And here, the Minister of Health. rabbi. moreover, the orthodox - while (according to experts) one of the best ministers of health - there is no single prescription.
          The minister is still a manager, I’m not sure that the minister must be a doctor.
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 27 January 2016 22: 08
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            One of the largest such epidemics was the famous epidemic of the "Spanish woman" - the Spanish flu. It followed in 1918-1919, immediately after the end of the First World War.


            The opinion is not mine, the other day I read on the internet
            "Spanish flu" is "swine flu" - A (H1N1). poured its variety. request
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 27 January 2016 10: 44
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      Quote: 31rus
      or it can simply restore their medicine, disease prevention, citizens themselves take their health more seriously, which is when there are no ordinary masks in St. Petersburg, you don’t need to look for any machinations, covering up your negligence

      Here I already wrote that some "figures", acting according to a template, almost deprived half of the city of the hospital (the Volga city is divided into two halves and there is no bridge connecting, there is an emergency tunnel with a dam) .. and so, people protested and, as it were, the result ...
      And if there aren’t enough real beds for people, what to do

      - Though ssy in the eye, they will die and say God's dew ?.
      The powerful protest wave, as well as the efforts of the management of enterprises and local authorities, prompted the Ministry of Health of the Moscow Region, together with the FMBA of Russia, to begin revising the amount of the planned funding cuts in MSC No. 9.
      To reassure the public, on November 8, the head of the 11th territorial health department of the Moscow Region, Viktor Misharin, arrived at the Mir Palace of Culture to meet with residents. The meeting was held with the participation of representatives of the city leadership, JINR, MSC-9, The Public Chamber of the city of Dubna. At it, V. Misharin stated that the order to dismiss the doctors was canceled and the departments of anesthesiology and resuscitation, the surgical, operating unit, the blood transfusion department, and the gastroenterological department would be kept. And also, that the number of beds per day and round-the-clock hospital in MSC No. 9 will be increased from the originally planned.

      http://kprf-dubna.su/public/msch-9-dubnu-ne-uslyshali
      in the end, they got it too - the egg is only in profile.

      2015 g. 2016 g.
      Financing from the compulsory medical insurance fund, in total, mln. Rub. 214,8 127,1 (-40,8%)
      At a round-the-clock hospital, million rubles 129,5 - 52,2 (-59,6%)
      Day hospital, million rubles 12,4 - 16,6 (+ 33,8%)
      Clinic, million rubles 72,9 - 57,9 (-20,5%)
      The cost of a round-the-clock hospital, rubles / person 22 769 - 12 (-45,6%)
      The cost of a day hospital, rubles / person 14 102 - 7 (-46%)
      The cost of 1 visit to the clinic per person, rub. 356 270 (-24,1%)


      In general, for 2016, the budget of MSC No. 9 is made up of 127,1 million rubles. from the compulsory medical insurance fund and 79 million rubles. from the fund of FMBA of Russia.
      At the same time, only 9-75 million rubles are spent per year on the maintenance of MSC No. 80 (utilities, etc.). To implement the “May decrees” of President of the Russian Federation Putin from 2012 on salaries to medical workers, MSC No. 9 in 2016, about 240 million rubles are needed, which exceeds the total annual budget of the medical institution.
      That is, in fact, what was originally conceived was implemented.

      and then they start broadcasting - everything is calm in Baghdad.
      all that the link is OFFICIAL! Scans are attached and they say that social networks are to blame and word of mouth is not worth it)))
      for word of mouth too fat Joint Institute for Nuclear Research and specific names.
      http://kprf-dubna.su/public/msch-9-dubnu-ne-uslyshali
    3. atalef
      atalef 27 January 2016 10: 58
      +5
      Quote: 31rus
      Dear, but you are to blame for all Ukrainians, Americans, Georgians, or you can simply restore your medicine, prevent disease, citizens themselves take their health more seriously, which is when there are no ordinary masks in St. Petersburg, you don’t need to look for any machinations, covering up own negligence

      In general, everyone is sick with the flu now (we have a lot of the same thing) - in general, there are no drugs.
      As they say - if you heal, you are sick for 7 days, if not treated - a week. laughing
      But in my opinion. Of course, the main thing is to protect yourself and it is advisable to take vaccinations.
      Again, someone like whom, as I began to get a flu shot, it’s already about 6 years since I stopped getting sick.
      Although I understand that all this is very individual.
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    5. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 28 January 2016 13: 35
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      You know, colleague, I disagree. They are to blame. On whose instigation was medicine destroyed? For them. This means that they are to blame for the current situation. However, we do not have external, and partially, internal problems in which they are not to blame. Everything is serious, it is enough to analyze the facts and find where the legs grow from.
  2. Glot
    Glot 27 January 2016 06: 39
    +7
    In Russia, seasonal exacerbation of influenza diseases continues.


    Here! The usual thing is flu. Everything else, panic rumors inflated by all kinds of zhurnalyugami and spread by the people themselves and no more.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 27 January 2016 09: 59
      +1
      Quote: Glot
      ! The usual thing is flu.

      That's exactly what is common. Mortality from swine flu does not exceed mortality from normal. Only rumors are spread by people who want to earn extra money on this. Moreover, the media pay well for this.
      Yuri Gendon emphasizes that it is impossible to stop the mass spread of the virus without vaccination.
      The letter in the surname was confused. Lies pronounced from a high rostrum are many times more dangerous. The "vaccine" does not help. They saw the loot again. am
      1. bionik
        bionik 27 January 2016 10: 25
        +5
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: Glot
        ! The usual thing is flu.

        That's exactly what is common. Mortality from swine flu does not exceed mortality from normal. Only rumors are spread by people who want to earn extra money on this. Moreover, the media pay well for this.

        During the ad unit, they show all possible drugs for the prevention of influenza (with antiviral and immunomodulating properties: Kagocel,
        Amixin
        Viferon,
        Grippferon
        Arbidol,
        Ingavirin. etc.), which are not there. For me, garlic, lemons, broth from rose hips and other popular remedies are better.
        1. Glot
          Glot 27 January 2016 11: 04
          +5
          For me, garlic, lemons, broth from rose hips and other international remedies are better.


          Correctly !
          I’ve gotten garlic too now. It is better to eat it every day for prevention than to plant a liver with kidneys with antibiotics.
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        3. michajlo
          michajlo 30 January 2016 20: 15
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          Ingvar 72 (3) RU January 27, 2016 09:59 ↑

          Quote: Glot
          ! The usual thing is flu.

          That's exactly what is common. Mortality from swine flu does not exceed mortality from normal. Only rumors are spread by people who want to earn extra money on this. Moreover, the media pay well for this.
          Yuri Gendon emphasizes that it is impossible to stop the mass spread of the virus without vaccination.
          The letter in the surname was confused. Lies pronounced from a high rostrum are many times more dangerous. The "vaccine" does not help. They saw the loot again. am

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          bionik (4) SU January 27, 2016 10:25 ↑

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Glot
          ! The usual thing is flu.

          That's exactly what is common. Mortality from swine flu does not exceed mortality from normal. Only rumors are spread by people who want to earn extra money on this. Moreover, the media pay well for this.

          During the ad unit, they show all possible drugs for the prevention of influenza (with antiviral and immunomodulating properties: Kagocel,
          Amixin
          Viferon,
          Grippferon
          Arbidol,
          Ingavirin. etc.), which are not there. For me, garlic, lemons, broth from rose hips and other popular remedies are better.

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          atalef (7) IL January 27, 2016 11:06 p.m. ↑

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          That's exactly what is common. Mortality from swine flu does not exceed mortality from normal. Only rumors are spread by people who want to earn extra money on this. Moreover, the media pay well for this.

          Here in this, I absolutely agree with you.
          Let's remember
          Mad Cow
          Atypical pneumonia
          Bird flu
          Swine flu
          At the same time, hundreds of billions were spent on vaccines for these diseases, and the panic among the population simply went wild, except that the pharmacies did not smash.
          And how many died - well, with a hundred or two (across the planet), and even then it is not known from what.
          At the same time, more than a million people die from malaria per year, and in order to defeat it, it takes about 15 billion bucks ---- but who will give the money. you won’t bring panic to malaria and you won’t untwist peoples.

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Yuri Gendon emphasizes that it is impossible to stop the massive spread of the virus without vaccination. The letter in the surname was confused. Lies pronounced from a high rostrum are many times more dangerous. The "vaccine" does not help. They saw the loot again.

          But I agree with this, vaccination helps.
          All the same, it’s better to get a vaccine (with us it’s generally free) than to wallow in bed and get sick.


          Greetings to all forum users!

          The article delivered a BIG MINUS for tone, recommendations and conclusions!
          Although the article itself is on a relevant topic, but for me the comments of forum users to the article are more valuable.

          Engineer VR Mikhail Rusnak, Smolensk.
          1. michajlo
            michajlo 30 January 2016 21: 46
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            Ingvar 72 (3) RU January 27, 2016 09:59 ↑

            Quote: Glot
            ! The usual thing is flu.

            That's exactly what is common. Mortality from swine flu does not exceed mortality from normal. Only rumors are spread by people who want to earn extra money on this. Moreover, the media pay well for this ..

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            atalef (7) IL January 27, 2016 11:06 p.m. ↑

            Quote: Ingvar 72
            That's exactly what is common.
            And how many died - well, with a hundred or two (across the planet), and even then it is not known from what.
            At the same time, more than a million people die from malaria per year, and in order to defeat it, it takes about 15 billion bucks ---- but who will give the money. you won’t bring panic to malaria and you won’t untwist peoples.

            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Yuri Gendon emphasizes that it is impossible to stop the mass spread of the virus without vaccination.
            .... pronounced from a high rostrum is more dangerous at times. The "vaccine" does not help. They saw the loot again.

            But I agree with this, vaccination helps.
            All the same, it’s better to get a vaccine (with us it’s generally free) than to wallow in bed and get sick.

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            #
            Greetings to all forum users!

            The article delivered a BIG MINUS for tone, recommendations and conclusions!

            Although the article itself is on a relevant topic, but for me the comments of forum users to the article are more valuable.

            1) In some Comments above and below my given Comment there are some sensible observations and advice from life and a lot of all the past-medical dope, inspired by all sorts of MINISTERS / DEZ-organizers of Health care, tantrums from the media paid by pharmaceutical manufacturers !.

            2) Let's get back to the SCIENTIFIC medical and biological facts and my modest real medical experience and life observations.

            3) Influenza vaccination: A GREAT DECEPTION from pharmaceutical manufacturers, supported even by the Virology Research Institute and medical high-ranking officials, I call them Health DISORGANIZERS.
            3.1) A priori (i.e., INITIAL) CANNOT BE AN EFFECTIVE VACCINE FOR INFLUENZA, since the influenza virus is DIFFERENT from other viral pathogens of infectious diseases, just because the VIRUS INFLUENZA MURES QUICKLY, i.e. IT IS CHANGING, and therefore, any flu vaccine that started for example on 10-Jan-2016 in Kaliningrad and from which was quickly delivered (within 1-2 weeks an industrial large batch of ANTI-vaccine vaccine was PREPARED).
            3.2) But when it is used 2 weeks after the onset of influenza in the Kaliningrad region, THIS VACCINE in Smolensk, Pskov and St. Petersburg is ALREADY EFFICIENT, since for these 2 weeks VIRUS INFLUENZA ALREADY ROOT (up to 70-85% MUTED - changed his antigenic composition) ...
            3.3.) And the ADVERSE (HARMFUL) effects from ANY VACCINATION (not only from the flu), have remained, and IN MY PERSONAL OPINION and DOCTOR AND LIFE EXPERIENCE MUCH MUCH MORE advertised by pharmaceutical manufacturers USES !!!
            4) Regarding vaccination and other PREVENTIVE measures recommended by health workers, always ask ANY DOCTOR and NURSE: Have you personally introduced this VACCINE?
            5) In addition to the fact that after vaccination itself it takes a period (usually 2 or more weeks) for the body to WORK Antibodies to the pathogen ...
            6) The majority of ANTI-VIRAL DRUGS - for influenza - are SMALL-EFFECTIVE, but they provide a REVENUE from the sale of expensive low-effective drugs and advertised drugs to trusting patients and residents.

            Продолжение следует ...


            Engineer VR Mikhail Rusnak, Smolensk.
            1. michajlo
              michajlo 31 January 2016 20: 49
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              Continuation No. 2.

              7) From the flu itself - PEOPLE DO NOT DIE !!! There is no such pathoanatomical Diagnosis (at the autopsy of the patient), DEATH from the flu !!!
              All patients die from COMPLICATIONS caused by a decrease in immunity from the influenza virus, very often it is rapidly progressing pneumonia, one of the forms of which is "group pneumonia", "pulmonary edema", bronchitis, increased frequency of asthmatic attacks, the development of a secondary infection such as meningitis (not encephalitis), pyelonephritis, cholecystitis and other organs.
              "Swine", "bird" and other types of flu often cause a fulminant form of the disease, where the whole picture of inflammatory processes develops within 1-2 days and ends with respiratory and / or cardiovascular insufficiency!

              8) High temperature (above +38 degrees C / Celsius), indicates that the patient needs observation by a doctor or an experienced nurse, medical assistant or hospitalization.

              9) In the same way, a simple rhinitis, not always "simple", is a manifestation of the inflammatory protective reaction of the organism with edema and mucus secretion only from the NOSE.
              Moreover, the mucous membrane of the nose per day (24 hours) can allocate up to 1,5 liters (1.500 ml) of snot / fluid !?

              10) The epidemics / pandemics of influenza themselves, in their essence, SIMPLY CUT OUT like an ACUTE COSE of the most debilitated, weak, elderly patients, but the numbers about DEATH / MORTALITY, which so often with HYSTERIC and MALINATE INTONATION we are frightened by the print media, Radio and TV, REQUIRES CHECK without an Official Certificate from the Sanitary and Epidemiological Service of the region / region or country - this is an advertising and intimidating trick, because immediately after the number of cases, deaths, NEW HIGHLY EFFECTIVE ANTIVIRAL drugs, POLIVITAMINS "for non-Christian prices" or foreign production, and "other ineffective rubbish", which basically INCREASES ONLY THE INCOME OF PHARMACIES AND PHARMACY MANUFACTURERS, but helps PATIENTS a little.
              The rest of the residents are not sick, who have had a mild or moderate form of influenza (without hospitalization) - ALL PURCHASEDLY ACQUIRE short-term, mild immunity against influenza!

              11) Of natural remedies (non-pharmacolytic drugs, antiviral, anti-inflammatory, antipyretic, multivitamins, etc.), natural remedies have already been recalled and praised.
              There are many of them, of which the wider layers of philistines available and grown on the personal plot, in the village and in the country, 2 vegetables must be described.
              1. michajlo
                michajlo 31 January 2016 20: 50
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                Continuation No. 3.

                12) For example, "onions" and "garlic", which many ordinary people (not perfumed with perfumes, deodorants and colognes of women and men of feminine appearance) enjoy well-deserved attention and respect and are EXTREMELY USEFUL for both FLU and regular daily consumption.
                Garlic and onions are especially useful not from a store where you do not know how much and what fertilizers and pesticides you spent on them when growing, but from a village bed, where GUARANTEED except cow manure and wood ash - Nothing else was brought!

                12.1) So that you know, onions have ONLY AN ANTIBACTERICIDAL effect, onions practically DOESN’T WORK on viruses, that is, theoretically with influenza - it is NON-EFFECTIVE!
                However, when taken 2-3 times / day together with garlic, the onion itself suppresses the "vulgar" (habitual) microbial flora, which is activated by suppressing the immune system caused by the influenza virus!

                12.2) And the "GARLIC" itself has both a pronounced ANTI-VIRAL and BACTERICIDAL effect, suppressing the vital activity of ALL viruses, including the FLU viruses and and MANY BACTERIA!
                There is only one recommendation for eating garlic and onions. They have an IRRITANT, burning effect, so they should be eaten with a piece of bread spread with butter, pork fat, with slices of fat, with FAT FOOD !!!
                Since people who are not used to consuming raw garlic and onions daily can cause stomach irritation and even gastritis!
                1. michajlo
                  michajlo 31 January 2016 20: 52
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                  Continuation No. 4.

                  12.3) The very same "disgusting SMELL / VON" of garlic and onions, in the words of "perfumed geese" and "nude, effeminate boys", does not come from the mouth but from the lungs!
                  Therefore, brushing your teeth with toothpaste, chewing gum slightly suppresses the smell of garlic and onions, but after 15-20 it appears again, since volatile essential oils from garlic and onion juice are released from the blood in the lungs, and along with the exhaled air are lightly sterilized lower airways (alveloids, bronchioles in the lungs, bronchi) and upper airways (trachea, vocal cords, mouth and nasal cavity)!

                  12.4) The old method is also effective, for example, when you cut 2-3 cloves of garlic into slices on your table in front of you, and the volatile substances that evaporate them within 1-2 hours, in a radius of 40-50 cm from the plate, I provide a sterile atmosphere, and you will not get infected at the workplace with INFLUENZA from visitors or colleagues.

                  12.5) In the same way, a person who has planted 2-4 prongs of garlic and from which the smell of garlic emanates can calmly communicate with influenza colleagues and visitors, and he will NOT get INFLUENZA, although he was coughed in the face and got small droplets of saliva and sputum from sick people !!!


                  13) The term of "home treatment" or "home rest" in case of influenza disease is at least 1 week, since for most colds and viral diseases of the upper respiratory tract, one old observation from life is valid, which says that "Flu should be treated for 1 week, and if do not heal, then it will pass in 7 days "...

                  14) Hyperthermia, or an increase in temperature, is a PROTECTIVE REACTION of the body to an infectious pathogen and inhibits the multiplication of infection in the patient's body.
                  And only "febrile hyperthermia" / ie. above +38 degrees, up to 39-40-41 degrees, dangerous, requires cooling of the body and medical, paramedic supervision.

                  14.1) Such a high temperature (febrile) in infants and toddlers and kindergartens (1-6 years old) is dangerous for the development of seizures and requires an INSPECTION OF A CHILD DOCTOR and HOSPITALIZATION.

                  15) Relatively high doses of vitamins C, other vitamins, minerals, it is OPTIONAL to buy expensive drugs, dietary supplements / dietary supplements and tropical / exotic fruits.
                  You can and SHOULD just eat in large quantities in case of illness and for the prevention of influenza / ARVI at home, harvested fruits (raspberries, mountain ash, currants), it is not JAM that is especially useful, but simply sprinkled fruits with sugar, freshly frozen, dried, as with this method of conservation - vitamins "they SAVE much MORE" than when boiling and digesting fruits!

                  16) quality honey (not fake with sugar syrup) is also very useful with tea.

                  17) These medical details, recommendations, results can take several articles and not only 1-3 comments.


                  Engineer VR Mikhail Rusnak, Smolensk.
      2. tomket
        tomket 27 January 2016 10: 48
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Only rumors are spread by people who want to earn extra money on this.

        I mean, I come to absenteeism for the exam, and there half the group squinted, houses are at a temperature under 40, which does not go astray. What irresponsible citizens! They decided to earn extra money by spreading rumors, and even couples skip !!! What loot? Aw !!!! What are you about????
        1. Glot
          Glot 27 January 2016 11: 06
          -1
          I mean, I come to absenteeism for the exam, and there half the group squinted, the houses are at a temperature below 40, which does not go astray. What irresponsible citizens!


          Wimps. laughing I went to work from 39,6, and nothing. laughing
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 27 January 2016 15: 16
            +4
            Quote: Glot
            Wimps. I went to work from 39,6, and nothing.

            And what the hell is this "heroism"? And if the complication then bangs out (ugh ugh!), No one knows what? Grip, it just seems like a trifle. what
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        3. I am
          I am 27 January 2016 14: 22
          0
          Domestic drug - IBUPROFEN. And that’s all. After 20 minutes you can start working.
          1. AK64
            AK64 27 January 2016 21: 55
            +3
            Domestic drug - IBUPROFEN. And that’s all. After 20 minutes you can start working.

            would kill
            Myself is not sorry - they would think of others!
        4. Egevich
          Egevich 27 January 2016 15: 07
          +2
          Quote: tomket
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Only rumors are spread by people who want to earn extra money on this.

          I mean, I come to absenteeism for the exam, and there half the group squinted, houses are at a temperature under 40, which does not go astray. What irresponsible citizens! They decided to earn extra money by spreading rumors, and even couples skip !!! What loot? Aw !!!! What are you about????

          in the middle group of the kindergarten this morning there were 3 (three) children ... the rest either get sick or stay at home ... I don’t remember this at all ...
        5. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 27 January 2016 16: 24
          +4
          Quote: tomket
          They decided to earn extra money by spreading rumors, and even couples skip !!! What loot? Aw !!!! What are you about????

          Normal, but only big loot. Influenza has always been, and in Soviet times there were also epidemics. That's just they did not make money. The panic over swine and bird flu is deliberately escalating, the media regularly report casualties, but in reality the percentage of victims does not exceed the mortality rate from ordinary flu. A lot of money is earned on the sale of all kinds of antivirus drugs (at first, the demand is heated through the media). At the same time, they are sawing huge money on public procurement of vaccines, with very dubious effectiveness.
          Aw !!! I clearly explained? wink
      3. atalef
        atalef 27 January 2016 11: 06
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        That's exactly what is common. Mortality from swine flu does not exceed mortality from normal. Only rumors are spread by people who want to earn extra money on this. Moreover, the media pay well for this.

        Here in this, I absolutely agree with you.
        Let's remember
        Mad Cow
        Atypical pneumonia
        Bird flu
        Swine flu
        At the same time, hundreds of billions were spent on vaccines for these diseases, and the panic among the population simply went wild, except that the pharmacies did not smash.
        And how many died - well, with a hundred or two (across the planet), and even then it is not known from what.
        At the same time, more than a million people die from malaria per year, and in order to defeat it, it takes about 15 billion bucks ---- but who will give the money. you won’t bring panic to malaria and you won’t untwist peoples.

        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Yuri Gendon emphasizes that it is impossible to stop the massive spread of the virus without vaccination. The letter in the surname was confused. Lies pronounced from a high rostrum are many times more dangerous. The "vaccine" does not help. They saw the loot again.

        But I agree with this, vaccination helps.
        All the same, it’s better to get a vaccine (with us it’s generally free) than to wallow in bed and get sick.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 27 January 2016 15: 21
          0
          Quote: atalef
          All the same, it’s better to get a vaccine (with us it’s generally free) than to wallow in bed and get sick.

          We did it at work, it’s free and you don’t have to go anywhere, so more than half refused! The dense people. request
          1. atalef
            atalef 27 January 2016 15: 27
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            Quote: Bayonet
            Quote: atalef
            All the same, it’s better to get a vaccine (with us it’s generally free) than to wallow in bed and get sick.

            We did it at work, it’s free and you don’t have to go anywhere, so more than half refused! The dense people. request

            we have the same at work, half does the same - darkness.
            I won’t persuade my wife. already ill.
            That's right, the enemy of progress.
          2. atalef
            atalef 27 January 2016 15: 27
            -1
            Quote: Bayonet
            Quote: atalef
            All the same, it’s better to get a vaccine (with us it’s generally free) than to wallow in bed and get sick.

            We did it at work, it’s free and you don’t have to go anywhere, so more than half refused! The dense people. request

            we have the same at work, half does the same - darkness.
            I won’t persuade my wife. already ill.
            That's right, the enemy of progress.
          3. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 27 January 2016 16: 34
            -1
            Quote: Bayonet
            The dense people.

            Quote: atalef
            we have the same at work, half does the same - darkness.
            Read the interview with the virologist Galina Chervonskaya -http: //www.baby.ru/blogs/post/445290595-82417984/
            hi
            1. would
              would 28 January 2016 14: 13
              +1
              I love to read Chervonskaya with her ubiquitous "Wai mamay I swear!" She talks a lot, but she never goes to the specificity of the medical one. Just because she knows wonderfully that smart people will devour her and very quickly and as a result she is published only on all sorts of baby.ru (where "natural" parents and other interesting characters live), she appears only on talk shows and that's it.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 28 January 2016 16: 24
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                Quote: rait
                She speaks a lot, but she never goes on to specifics, much less medical.

                And what specifics do you need? Statistics on vaccine efficacy do not suit you? I watched a video where she abruptly broke off one major figure of the Ministry of Health, and having justified all the arguments with medical indicators. hi
                1. would
                  would 28 January 2016 17: 32
                  0
                  Statistics on the effectiveness of vaccines does not suit just the same Chervonskaya.

                  Let's start

                  with. The tests that such vaccines undergo - they, as they say, do not climb into any framework. Because, firstly, in our country there is no conditioned animals,


                  Since when is vaccine allowed to be used only after animal testing? Everywhere the next step is a test on people who are more than conditioned.

                  very opposed to the use of a live polio vaccine. Because this vaccine gave a high percentage of associated paralysis


                  Of course, this supposedly high percentage will not be voiced as well as the reasons for the appearance of such paralysis.

                  - The possibility of a pandemic is a complete lie! Moreover, this has already been proven.
                  Because there has never been a real pandemic in history. It is already recognized. This question, by the way - the current "horror stories" - became interested, thank God, even the prosecutor's office! And there are a lot of posts about this.


                  Of course, no concrete rebuttals to the fixation of the pandemic followed in the same way as the mythical interest of the prosecutor's office on an unknown occasion.

                  Susceptibility to influenza is the same as to diphtheria. 10-12-15% of all humanity.


                  Again, no references to sources or research. How I love to say "Wai mamai I swear!"

                  they frightened them with diphtheria, tetanus, and polio. And I immediately say in all audiences this way: believe in vaccinations? Do you think that they will save you from infectious diseases? Get vaccinated, for God's sake, but know: to vaccinate does not mean to protect. This is the first. Secondly, we must know: the principle “pricked and went” - this is for drug addicts. If vaccinated, then there must be follow-up monitoring, there must be a diagnosis. On the one hand, we need a vaccine, on the other hand, we need to observe its result. As with any other medical care.

                  it’s not according to the drug addiction “pricked and went”


                  It goes without saying that "to instill is not to protect" is streamlined, and young mothers often do not know how to think out specifics. So they interpret this as "vaccination does not protect." What exactly was meant by this: Effectiveness in preventing the development of the disease, effectiveness in reducing the severity of the disease, or something else, Mrs. Chervonskaya will not say by itself. But he uses the "this is for drug addicts", "drug addict principle" directed at emotions. Mommies are very suggestible and if they hear something bad from the Guru, it means that it is. It goes without saying that this vaccination tactic is bad, what is meant by monitoring and diagnosis will not be said. But any immunologist knows wonderfully that it is possible to determine the effectiveness of a vaccine only after the introduction of the pathogen and nothing else. Will we introduce the causative agent? And why if the effectiveness of the formation of immunity is already known?

                  And so is all her texts. Many streamlined, unsubstantiated unspecified formulations, pressing on emotions and lack of critical thinking.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 28 January 2016 18: 30
                    +1
                    Quote: rait
                    Everywhere the next step is a test on people who are more than conditioned.

                    As it were, yes, but flu vaccines began to be massively done when the vaccine did not pass the full cycle of clinical trials. With us, not abroad. Nonsense, but true.
                    Quote: rait
                    Of course, no concrete rebuttals to the fixation of the pandemic followed in the same way as the mythical interest of the prosecutor's office on an unknown occasion.

                    Pandemic? The swine flu mortality rate is lower than normal. The fact is that the information in the internet is full, and from reliable sources.
                    Quote: rait
                    Again, no references to sources or research. How I love to say "Wai mamai I swear!"

                    Google, and all will be to you. Both references and facts.
                    Quote: rait
                    It goes without saying that "to instill is not to protect"

                    Are they all vaccinated from the tube? Why, then, in zones do people still get sick? And hepatitis is the same?
                    Quote: rait
                    Many streamlined, unsubstantiated unspecified formulations that press on emotions and lack of critical thinking.

                    As well as the texts of vaccine supporters. Under a few really necessary vaccines they cram all crap, with no effectiveness, and with side effects. A type of vaccine for flu and cervical cancer. BCG - low efficiency, DTP - the same. Why stab?
                    Quote: rait
                    Mommies are very suggestible and if they hear from the Guru
                    I’m not a mom, I check everything logically through experience. And my experience reminds me that it was doctors who did the most harm to my health.
                    The question for you is how did humanity survive to the 20th century without vaccinations? Watch her video, everything is logical and intelligible there. hi
                    P.S. Are you a medical professional? Only honestly.
                    1. would
                      would 28 January 2016 20: 02
                      +1
                      As if yes, but flu vaccines began to be massively done when the vaccine did not pass the full cycle of clinical trials


                      I'd love to see the source, seriously.

                      Pandemic? The swine flu mortality rate is lower than normal.


                      And then the mortality rate? A pandemic is a global epidemic and has nothing to do with mortality. If tomorrow, in almost all countries of the world, they get a cold that lasts 1 day and no one dies, this will also be a pandemic.

                      Google, and all will be to you. Both references and facts.


                      Very specific.

                      Are they all vaccinated from the tube? Why, then, in zones do people still get sick? And hepatitis is the same?


                      The level of knowledge is immediately visible. Let's start with BCG: According to numerous studies, BCG does not protect children from primary infection with tuberculosis or from reactivation of latent pulmonary infection. This is written in the WHO document (google "WHO BCG position" and find the document) in black and white. They do it due to the fact that, according to the results of BCG studies, it seriously reduces the likelihood of the transition of pulmonary tuberculosis to complicated forms in children. The WHO itself is quite devastating in the document writing about this vaccine, but admit that it is better than nothing. By the way, the problem with BCG is not only limited effectiveness, there are a lot of jokes.

                      Further: At what age do they usually go to jail? What does it have to do with it? Despite the fact that immunity from BCG is far from lifelong and 2 booster shots should be done at 7 and 14 years of age. Did anyone make them? I have never heard of such a thing in my life. The presence of immunity is determined by the Mantoux test: Negative Mantoux-BCG is no longer working. I had a negative manta at the age of 13. We draw conclusions. In addition, the effectiveness of BCG in adults has not been studied and no one really knows if it works for them. I would very much like to clarify what he is talking about because after all, as far as I know, the incidence of hepatitis C vaccine against which there is currently no high.

                      As well as texts of supporters of vaccinations


                      That is, a sample of thousands of people, monitoring the incidence and course of the disease is not specific? Your right.

                      A type of vaccine for flu and cervical cancer. BCG - low efficiency, DTP - the same. Why stab?


                      I already wrote about BCG, DTP has gorgeous efficacy and the percentage of immunization is close to 100. And if a child has a low probability of contracting tetanus, then diphtheria and even more whooping cough (a terrible thing, those who see it sharply become vaccine advocates) easily. Reliably and seriously reduces the incidence, reduces the severity of the disease. Chic thing.

                      Flu vaccines are just as effective ... the only problem is that they only work against the strains that are in the vaccine, that is, against the old ones. WHO recommends that it be given only to people at risk who are very likely to not survive the flu. Bulk vaccination is an invention of local governments. The vaccine from human papillomavirus (yes, not directly from cervical cancer) is a controversial thing, including because the danger of this virus is not fully understood and there are questions about vaccines. There is no widespread use for this.

                      Side effects are extremely low and the influenza vaccine is in the lead here. But the tick-borne encephalitis vaccine is good, there are relatively many feverish ones. After it, I have 39 degrees Celsius, it works wonderfully.
                      1. would
                        would 28 January 2016 20: 02
                        0
                        The question for you is how did humanity survive to the 20th century without vaccinations?


                        It didn’t live well, even if you remember that they were vaccinated before that. Remind me how smallpox mowed people? The absence of smallpox on the face in many European countries was considered a hallmark. It was against her that the first vaccination appeared that had incomparably large side effects, but it was with her that the victory over this disease began. The vaccination against rabies went on, and if you don’t remember, I’ll remind you that before her, after the bite of a rabid animal, she could only die.

                        P.S. Are you a medical professional? Only honestly.


                        Not a medical worker, there are no doctors in the family either.
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  3. Riv
    Riv 27 January 2016 06: 40
    +7
    Well, the author writes correctly: there is no need to panic, but prevention is necessary. There are more vitamins (good, a penny), often walk on foot and stay away from buses and the metro.
    And not a single Khokhlyatsky mushroom :) will not become attached.
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 27 January 2016 08: 20
      +7
      Quote: Riv
      walk more often and stay away from buses and the metro.
      And not a single Khokhlyatsky mushroom :) will not become attached.

      You can still eat onion and garlic and wear a mask when going out, well, or smear your nose with oxolinic ointment.
      The problem is that when you get into transport, you sit down, and someone will start following you either coughing or sniffing, that’s how bad luck is. Or you’re walking along the sidewalk, people are coming towards you, and how they cough up to you right away.
      + As for complex vitamins, they also increase the tone, there is no feeling of weakness, always full of strength.
  4. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 January 2016 06: 46
    +1
    Yes, there are many more patients, you come to work and every day there are fewer and fewer people ... by the way, like at least one person in Rostov Oblast died of swine flu.
  5. Cat man null
    Cat man null 27 January 2016 07: 08
    +4
    Reminded:

    Quote: http://segal.livejournal.com/704669.html
    .

    Doctor: So you have goose bullshit!
    Patient: Thank you Doctor! (dies)
    Doctor (writes to the journal): The patient died of goose bullshit.
    Zimbabwean Ministry of Health Press Service: Over the past week, ZNUMX starved to death in Zimbabwe, 2500 from poisoning with rotten bananas and one person from goose bullshit.
    Journalist (writes): Goose bullshit entered the list of three main causes of death in Zimbabwe.
    News agency: In Zimbabwe, cases of incurable goose hogwash have become more frequent.
    TV channel: Previously unknown Zimbabwe goosebump disease. Zimbabwean Ministry of Health calls for no panic

    .

    Personally, I saw this flu .. in the coffin in slippers. The infection does not stick to the infection laughing
  6. qwert
    qwert 27 January 2016 07: 10
    +4
    As you can see, every year 40 000 people die of flu. But not every year is such hysteria as this one, which in time coincided with a sharp drop in the ruble and other sad processes in the economy. An accident? I do not know....
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 27 January 2016 08: 17
      +5
      Quote: qwert
      As you can see, 40 people die from the flu every year.

      Because you need to take sick leave and stay at home to be treated, rather than heroic and go to work, in addition, I often notice how people are in the cold - 20 walk along the street without a hat and are lightly dressed, it’s very easy to catch meningitis or a complication from the same flu if you are sick .
      1. Hyperion
        Hyperion 27 January 2016 10: 29
        +8
        Growing up is when you go down the street without a hat in a 30 degree frost and feel like a moron, not a hero.
      2. would
        would 27 January 2016 12: 33
        -1
        Meningitis from frost does not happen like many other diseases attributed to it. For such diseases, a pathogen is needed and while it is not there, you can freeze at least until hypothermia, but you will not get sick.
      3. I am
        I am 27 January 2016 14: 25
        +1
        Hospital - not paid. Here is the answer. even in a public institution it is necessary to provide an open sick leave on the first day of its beginning. What is it like???? Private traders do not stutter about sick leave. Just leave. You’ll complain, you will leave after this and everything in your place is already different.
      4. Bayonet
        Bayonet 27 January 2016 15: 26
        +1
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        I often notice how people are in the cold - 20 walk along the street without a hat and are easily dressed,
        If my head feeds me, why freeze her ??? And whoever has it only in order to have it - then it is possible without a hat! smile
  7. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 27 January 2016 07: 52
    +3
    And no one tried to combine the map of the spread of influenza and the location of American specialized laboratories in the territory of the former USSR, maybe a dog rummaged here? request
    1. PKK
      PKK 27 January 2016 08: 15
      0
      Influenza is a military weapon used in so-called peacetime.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 27 January 2016 15: 29
      0
      Quote: sergeyzzz
      And no one tried to combine the map of the spread of influenza and the location of American specialized laboratories in the territory of the former USSR, maybe a dog rummaged here?

      Do not walk in the cold without a hat!
  8. 31rus
    31rus 27 January 2016 08: 01
    +4
    Dear, without a card, I’ll say that while in Moscow and other regions there were frosts, the level of the disease was minimal, now it’s warming up and the level will jump sharply at times, that's why the Americans didn’t start from the south either. and bloggers write, so remember the bird flu, almost all of China should be infected, and they live and breed
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 27 January 2016 08: 18
      0
      Quote: 31rus
      Now it’s warming and the level will jump sharply at times,

      It is often necessary to ventilate the premises.
    2. sergeyzzz
      sergeyzzz 27 January 2016 13: 11
      0
      I do not agree with you, why exactly "swine" flu, which gives more serious complications to the patient's body?
  9. PKK
    PKK 27 January 2016 08: 13
    -8
    Dear! It's amazing that the green stuff was already being made at that time. And no one bothered to use the green stuff against "Spanish flu" and other flu! With the help of a solution of green stuff, the flu is treated in a day or two nights. Imagine how many millions of people could be saved by applying gargling with green stuff? And now this method is just beginning to take root, people are learning. But those who do not know about it die. Health to everyone!
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 27 January 2016 08: 31
      +7
      Quote: PKK
      With the help of a solution of green greens, flu is treated in a day or two nights

      Yah? Have you tried it yourself? Brilliant green is just an antiseptic, of which there are many .. something from fairy tales about "living and dead" water breathed ..

      Quote: PKK
      gargling green

      How? Is it right out of the bubble ?? Or can you still dilute with water? Or is it better NOT to water? wink

      Vitamins. As a preventive measure. Hardening (yeah, "pour cold water, if you want ..", exactly) - as the same prevention.

      This is what I tried (and try now). 50 + years - normal flight yes
      1. ayuric
        ayuric 27 January 2016 09: 28
        +1
        her greenhouse, and to work without a gauze bandage and even through the subway and minibus, the effect will be. wassat
      2. AK64
        AK64 27 January 2016 21: 53
        +2
        Quote: PKK
        gargling green


        How? Is it right out of the bubble ??

        /authoritatively/
        I need green stuff
        / and a little thought /
        or pranally
    2. guzik007
      guzik007 27 January 2016 09: 24
      +4
      When the ministry of health is alternately run by an economist, a lawyer, or a cathedral rat, who has not treated patients in life, there is nothing to wait. Suffice it to recall the autumn forecast from my ministry for influenza for 16 years: a common strain is expected without serious complications. Now, judging by the internal order of this, if I may say so, the minister, there is a slight panic in her department: "Doctors who diagnosed late and lost a patient will be summoned personally (PERSONALLY, Karl!) In front of Skvortsova's bright eyes! Abs!
      And it follows from this that on time imported drugs were not purchased in the proper amount. It is officially stated that 40 million doses of the vaccine were made this year, but there are no figures for the number of vaccinees anywhere. I suspect no more than 10-15 million.
      I remember the panic that reigned in the first outbreak of Н1N1, when at first they really did not know what to treat, and only the massive purchase of French Tamiflu saved the situation. Today the same rake, the same faces at the top.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 27 January 2016 09: 51
        -1
        Quote: guzik007
        .

        Here I am amazed at this childish manner - if something is wrong, I immediately shout "ma-a-aaama !!!!" ..

        "The state did not provide .. the state could not .."

        This is the flu ... just the flu, Carl! Not cancer, let it not be mentioned ..

        Why do you need a state for this? You do not sleep outside, I hope? Is the house warm and there is water? In the nearest pharmacy there are a lot of pills, among them there are some useful ones (not Tamiflu, by the way), you just need to be able to choose - so that there is good, and the wallet doesn’t hit hard. Wash your hands more often, by the way, do not get into the crowd, if possible .. walk sometimes (here it’s easier for me - I have a dog, I don’t want it, but wander around the street a couple of hours a day).

        And that’s all, kakbe ... and if they got sick - to the doctor, our medicine is working quite well, I just experienced it myself .. 2016 was celebrating the New Year in the hospital, under a dropper .. about how belay
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 27 January 2016 10: 42
          +2
          Health to you, cat. drinks And here I am flu. crying Tired of it already. It’s scary to go hunting, no matter how worse it is. what
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 27 January 2016 11: 35
            0
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Health to you, cat

            And to you - speedy healing.

            To me hell that pester, running like salted, stupidly no time to hurt. But today is almost a weekend in the middle of the week, paid .. song laughing

            Quote: Mordvin 3
            It’s scary to go hunting, no matter how worse it is

            Do not. I have a dad (and he’s healthier than me, a campaign. I’m definitely not going to live up to 79) - in 40 I ran the flu on my feet, so it was necessary. As a result - deaf in one ear, the doctor then said - he got off cheaply yet.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 27 January 2016 12: 05
              +2
              Thanks for the advice, I'll be idle. laughing
        2. guzik007
          guzik007 27 January 2016 19: 05
          +3
          Here I am amazed at this childish manner - if something is wrong, I immediately shout "ma-a-aaama !!!!" ..
          -------------------------
          Man, are you going to treat me? Read carefully, you can understand who I am by profession, and believe me, I ate more than one dog on this: =). IMHO
          And believe me, I have seen and treated hundreds of patients with common flu and only a few with "swine". Believe me, it's really creepy when you can't help. So bravado and disregard for this problem does not roll.
          and, by the way, Tamiflu and only Tamiflu with this variety. But by the way, if you are so stubborn, experiment on your health. Well, "... Wash your hands more often, by the way, do not climb into the crowd" This is the only reasonable phrase in your speech. I agree here.: =)
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 27 January 2016 22: 10
            0
            Quote: guzik007
            Read carefully, you can understand who I am by profession, and believe me, I ate more than one dog on this

            It's to blame, I didn’t understand right away .. but there are dogs - no need .. I’m breathing unevenly towards them.

            Quote: guzik007
            Believe me, it's really creepy when you can’t help with anything.

            I know, I’ve been tested on myself. Although I’m not a nirazu doctor. The man died, but I could not help. It is on me now, to the end.

            Quote: guzik007
            bravado and disregard for this problem does not roll

            I proceed from the well-known: "Whoever is destined to be hanged will not drown." And, it is true, from experience - while you dangle and strained - you do not get sick. Nothing at all. He relaxed - on, catch, on an even, practically, place.

            About Tamiflu - I’ll remember, just in case. And a case, as you know, it happens .. any.

            Yours faithfully - hi
  10. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 27 January 2016 09: 16
    +2
    music by V. Solovyov -Sedogo
    words of V. Lebedev-Kumach

    Temper
    If you want to be healthy
    Try to
    Forget about the doctors.
    Wipe with cold water
    If you want to be healthy!

    Be moderate
    And in clothes and in food,
    Be sure
    On land and on water
    Always and everywhere be sure
    And don't be scared, my friend, nowhere!

    You do not mess
    And don't hide your nose from the wind
    Even fierce
    Indicative frost.
    Walk straight, not bent
    Like any question!

    All useful
    Sun, air and water
    From Diseases
    They always help us.
    From all diseases all are more useful -
    Sun, air and water!

    All potions
    Pour all the medicine
    Physical education
    Master from a young age.
    Break your muscles -
    And win the victory!

    Cheerful and cheerful
    Real champion
    Many songs
    He knows many jokes.
    And who sadly hung his nose -
    Will be immediately defeated!

    Mom, Dad!
    Do not pamper you children -
    Hats come out
    Instead of the right people.
    I ask you very much, mothers, fathers:
    - Do not spoil your children!

    Me about sports
    Everything is known, my dear,
    Do not argue in vain
    You are therefore with me.
    Please, about sports
    You do not argue, my dear!

    1947
  11. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 27 January 2016 10: 02
    +2
    pork .. bird .. deer .. spider ... fu ... Here are the marketers well done ... everyone knows how to sell. Influenza is the flu. For an ordinary person, there should be no difference .. what. And then they came up with the names that cut uh.
  12. Aleksander
    Aleksander 27 January 2016 10: 33
    +2
    He advises citizens: 1) to wear a gauze bandage to protect others and himself; 2) get a flu shot; 3) adjust the diet in the direction of consuming more vitamins; 4) to abandon attempts to treat colds through the use of alcoholic beverages - this will only negatively affect the general state of health; 5) often ventilate the room; 6) wash your hands more often;

    Some tips are weird: getting the flu shot NOW is not only useless anymore, but also harmful-it was necessary to do in the fall (time is needed for the formation of immunity). Vitamins are only ascorbic and even moderately, often pure vitamins and complexes do more harm, vitamins only in natural forms - in fruits, vegetables, etc. And it’s also important to try not to touch your face with hands — this is often done automatically, and this is one of the main causes of infection, after the street and transport, wash not only hands, but also FACE and NECK.
  13. Vladimir
    Vladimir 27 January 2016 10: 47
    +1
    Unfortunately, the Ministry of Health has only recently been stating the presence of a particular virus. In Ukraine, thousands of people die every day simply from the high cost and lack of drugs, and most die at home knowing in advance that the medical institution will not help. So what kind of assessment should the Ministry of Health give to the work?
  14. ayuric
    ayuric 27 January 2016 11: 01
    0
    Quote: bionik
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote: Glot
    ! The usual thing is flu.

    That's exactly what is common. Mortality from swine flu does not exceed mortality from normal. Only rumors are spread by people who want to earn extra money on this. Moreover, the media pay well for this.

    During the ad unit, they show all possible drugs for the prevention of influenza (with antiviral and immunomodulating properties: Kagocel,
    Amixin
    Viferon,
    Grippferon
    Arbidol,
    Ingavirin. etc.), which are not there. For me, garlic, lemons, broth from rose hips and other popular remedies are better.


    only in all of these drugs the main active ingredients are interferon, dimexin, aspirin, etc., while the price is several times cheaper than the above drugs

    I’ll add from myself: onion, from all ailments.
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 27 January 2016 19: 08
      +2
      only in all of these agents the main active ingredients are interferon, dimexin, aspirin, etc., at the same time
      ----------------------------------------
      but I strongly advise against aspirin for influenza. may die of pulmonary edema. paracetamol is suitable.
  15. gorsten79
    gorsten79 27 January 2016 11: 39
    0
    About vaccinations. They showed a report on the first channel, that they were vaccinated against another flu. And yet, do not leave the house and go to the doctors. How is this? I’ll call an ambulance. If a person in the waiting room from pneumonia dies without waiting in line. So, of course, the ambulance should to rush at the first symptoms. There isn’t enough for all hospitals. And of course you don’t have to panic. Just think a few dozen children died ...
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 27 January 2016 15: 31
      0
      Quote: gorsten79
      And yet, do not leave the house and turn to the doctors. Is that how?

      Call a local doctor! Or do you have a phone? request
      1. gorsten79
        gorsten79 27 January 2016 23: 46
        +1
        About 10 years ago I was lying with a temperature and so on. I called an ambulance - it’s okay — they caught a cold, have a hot drink, lie down at home. The next day, my friends brought me to the hospital. And they said there — a couple more hours (literally) and would not help. that I’m safe now, I’ll stay at home for a couple of weeks. (I live alone) Do not reproach doctors, it's scary ...
  16. would
    would 27 January 2016 12: 26
    +4
    Remember: On flu hysteria, pharmaceutical companies row their money not even with a shovel, but with trains. At least in Russia, they row loot on this for non-working fuflomycins, homeopathy and other "urinotherapy". Procurement of influenza vaccines is going well, which, according to WHO, is not needed by everyone, but only by certain groups of people (people with chronic diseases, young children, the elderly, etc.) who have a seriously increased likelihood of a severe course. It is they who form the basis of deaths.

    Currently, science knows only two effective cures for influenza, and these are oseltamivir and zanamivir. The level of their effectiveness according to the analysis of Cochrane cooperation is a decrease in the duration of symptoms by an average of 2 days and there is no evidence of a decrease in mortality and complications. All. Draw conclusions, some organizations have made them and criticized the massive purchase of these drugs by Western countries as ineffective. Everything else is either fuflomcin, which has not passed any modern tests, or has stopped working (like rimantadine).

    It is also worth noting that the statistics of the incidence of influenza is seriously overstated. How does a doctor determine flu? No way. Influenza absolutely officially has no specific symptoms and proceeds just like a common cold. The only reliable way to determine is a specific laboratory analysis ... which is almost never done. Instead, they do this: A control group of patients is selected where there are not even a hundred people, they do this analysis, and when a positive result is obtained at a certain percentage, doctors are allowed to declare the flu. And they put it at their discretion, all the same, it does not change anything. So, for example, 15 million people with the flu get it, but it is not known how many of them really get the flu. It is worth noting that sometimes WHO criticized on the Internet as a stronghold of the pharmaceutical mafia in its statistics takes into account only laboratory-confirmed cases of the disease and as a result there are relatively few of them.

    The only really working preventive measure is to go into the forest, not to contact anyone and live in a tent. The medical mask is not only open on the sides, but also retains only large particles like dust. So rely on it entirely is not worth it. Hand washing is also useful, but the flu virus doesn’t care much through the airways wonderfully. The vaccine is effective only against old flu strains and only against it, you can also fall off with other ARI.

    And the main thing to remember: Influenza for a healthy and young person is almost always like a common cold, disgusting but not fatal and not long. But when you get sick, you will get extremely stable immunity not only to a specific strain, but to all similar ones.
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 27 January 2016 19: 11
      +2
      But when you get sick, you will get extremely stable immunity not only to a specific strain, but to all similar ones.
      ---------------------------------
      Another common misconception. This is for you, my friend. Not smallpox. Immunity is extremely weak and short-lived. Otherwise, there would have been no epidemics for a long time.
      1. would
        would 28 January 2016 09: 27
        +1
        This is a scientific fact confirmed by immunologists. Long, almost lifelong, cross-immunity. Immunity from vaccination is just the same weaker and relatively short-lived.

        Otherwise, there would have been no epidemics for a long time.


        I may surprise you, but ... A huge number of people with these epidemics do not get sick with old pathogens. Generally. They get sick only with new strains which, due to the miraculous ability of the influenza virus to mutate, to put it mildly, are not similar to their ancestors. And that is far from all, it may look like some kind of old one.

        Actually, if this were a delusion, we would, as a child, fall off with a cold monthly, there is no specific immunity.
  17. a housewife
    a housewife 27 January 2016 13: 53
    +2
    Oxolinic ointment when leaving the house. Onions, garlic - every day, at least 2 prongs, when you have dinner, mulled wine helps a lot before bedtime, only from the right red wine. Recipe: 150 gr. wine, 100 gr. water, bring to a boil, but in no case boil. Remove from heat, add cinnamon, cloves, ginger, nutmeg, cardamom to taste. Cover, let it brew for a few minutes, add lemon juice and honey, drink in a very warm, but not hot. Spices generally well kill any infection. As for the flu in Adygea - for the first time I hear that we here in the south almost did not have the flu. Yes every year! Children are vaccinated on time, so I do not remember severe cases. With adults - as everywhere else.
  18. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 27 January 2016 14: 04
    0
    It's a pity when people die from "swine flu", not political or moral pigs.
  19. stpv1
    stpv1 27 January 2016 14: 24
    +3
    We go to the pharmacy and see a bunch of drugs. Someone at the ministry of health can ensure that these drugs really work or are dummies. If our government would be interested in the health of its citizens and the economy, there would already be a long ago yes instruction or recommendation on drugs.
    Family budgets are spent on these dummies, citizens' welfare is spent
  20. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 27 January 2016 15: 02
    0
    We must not panic, and engage in prevention
    The author, would start with yourself. They did not publish the article and were not given to others.
  21. mihasik
    mihasik 27 January 2016 15: 51
    0
    In a number of mass media, and especially in social networks, rumors are spreading that you cannot call panic otherwise. Mass incidence of influenza is noted in the Rostov and Volgograd regions, Krasnodar Territory, Adygea, other territories, regions and republics of the region

    Thank you, author! That reassured!
    In the Rostov region, allegedly eight people died from the flu. Immediately local news writes that eight people died in Rostov-on-Don (so where eight died in the city or in the region), while after the "official statistics", a 12-year-old boy dies (the lungs simply "burned out." days on an intensive care unit in a hospital), a man dies right in line at the 4th City (officially confirmed), the head of the infectious diseases department dies (not confirmed)! And in the statistics, eight people died again either in Rostov-on-Don, or in the Rostov region! About statistics: the doctors themselves say that they write a diagnosis based on a complication, and not a root cause, i.e. flu so that there is no panic. And you want people not to panic ?! Schools and kindergartens are not closed, - fear for chairs. And so there is no panic! No losses! And in general a peremoga! Ukraine, their mother!
    1. would
      would 27 January 2016 16: 25
      +1
      Ask yourself: How many people are in Rostov-on-Don? And what percentage are these 8? Well, and yes the most important question: Was the fact of infection with the flu confirmed by laboratory? You can just die like this even from an ordinary non-influenza ARI.

      So there really is no panic, at least for me. "The death of one person is a tragedy, the death of millions of statistics." Such epidemics always take away the weakest, from year to year, from time to time. And there are still those who take the young and the strong. Panic every year or what?
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 27 January 2016 20: 50
        0
        Quote: rait
        So there really is no panic, at least for me.

        I don’t have it either, but the child’s wife hasn’t taken to school for the second week, and I’m only FOR.
        In the example above about eight people, isn't it clear that the statistics are lying, or have you read it inattentively?
        8 + 3 already does not work again 8th! And if someone examines these studies of corpses, then certainly not for general discussion. Talking about dozens of victims only in Rostov is pointless. To prove the flu epidemic with certificates is too costly to convince someone of his presence. Carry-consider your version correct, and someone does not think so already. And I want to have less. Good luck to you!
        1. would
          would 27 January 2016 21: 31
          +1
          but the child's wife has not been driving to school for the second week, and I am only "FOR".


          Only for real effectiveness, you need the whole family to sit at home and not contact anybody. And so on until the end of a child’s life ... well, or in a sealed capsule. Whether you want it or not, sooner or later it will encounter a huge number of pathogens and it is more than likely that some kind of flu among them will be one of the most harmless.

          In the example above about eight people, isn't it clear that the statistics are lying, or have you read it inattentively?


          If statistics were lying, hospitals would be packed with completely different people and buried oh how often. Just like the Spanish flu. So far, in none of the regions of our wonderful country, mortality from influenza and, in principle, acute respiratory infections does not exceed the norm and is not a reason for panic if you are not at risk. So it "carries" from time to time, from year to year, from one epidemic to another. And this is an absolutely normal state of seasonal epidemics of acute respiratory infections, otherwise the "Spanish flu" was just not the norm.
          1. mihasik
            mihasik 27 January 2016 21: 54
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            Quote: rait
            Only for real effectiveness, you need the whole family to sit at home and not contact anybody. And so on until the end of a child’s life ... well, or put it in a sealed capsule

            We try to do just that!)
  22. partizan86
    partizan86 27 January 2016 16: 48
    -1
    Prevention and mask itself. If already sick, wear a mask late. I even take off gloves only in living quarters, squeamish too. Not all die, but a decent percentage. In recent years, they have been scared by different viruses, since then people have got used to it as just horror stories and scored it all. Now the virus has returned and is not going to leave yet. And panic, this is already beyond science fiction, it's not a zombie virus.
    1. would
      would 27 January 2016 17: 28
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      . If already sick, wear a mask late.


      For others it is not too late.

      Not all die, but a decent percentage


      According to Harvard School of Public Health (based on statistics collected in the USA and model calculations), swine flu mortality is 0,007% from the number of cases. Seven thousandths of a percent in the USA ... a decent percentage, you can’t say anything.
  23. Bator
    Bator 27 January 2016 17: 29
    +1
    why don't they openly say that there is no bird flu (swine)? The lobby of the pharmaceutical companies is so powerful?
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 27 January 2016 19: 13
      +1
      why they do not openly say that no bird (swine) flu exists
      -------------------------------------------------- ----------------------
      Less often see: =)
  24. King, just king
    King, just king 27 January 2016 18: 51
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    1 medium onion per day, garlic at will (the wife somehow doesn’t have much garlic), a piece of fat for the lungs and heart, 4 times a week body wound in the gym and with a pear for 1,5-2 hours, morning and evening for 50 gr cognac, daily walk in any weather, periodically plump - that flu spun on the penis!
  25. igoza64
    igoza64 27 January 2016 20: 55
    +1
    The most interesting thing is that they forgot about Ebola, although a year ago, speaking Obama put her at risk at the level of Russia
  26. Sunseich
    Sunseich 27 January 2016 21: 10
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    Quote: Glot

    Here! The usual thing is flu. Everything else, panic rumors inflated by all kinds of zhurnalyugami and spread by the people themselves and no more.

    not rumors, unfortunately
    we already have three in our town: two guys, a man aged and a child of 8 months (it is debatable with him). First, the temperature is 42, then it drops, the pulmonary edema sharply (I can use the term incorrectly), if not in time - wheezing, suffocation and death.
    Godfather barely scrambled out, managed to dig into the infection. Already home.

    ps
    forgot: in the Smolensk part of the schools and kindergartens in quarantine. According to my godmother.
  27. Sunseich
    Sunseich 30 January 2016 17: 21
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    another death from the effects of flu in the city: a woman died.
    the wife just returned from the family gathering: another child will fall ill at school - they will quarantine them.

    and you are talking about "cheating emotions by magazines" :(
    1. would
      would 31 January 2016 11: 30
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      Well, actually yes, cheating emotions. The weakest have always died from such epidemics due to the fact that their body either cannot cope with the infection or survive the very typical disorders that the infection causes. Very, very few die, less than a percent of the total number of people. A panic is caused as if a Spaniard came and will mow the population without exception.
  28. Sunseich
    Sunseich 30 January 2016 22: 55
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    minus signs:
    mother - works at the hospital
    mother-in-law is a former gynecologist,
    wife’s aunt is a surgeon,
    buddy surgeon
    friends - nurse
    so I know what I'm writing