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One hundred years grazing

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Ankara does not leave the idea of ​​a chastity belt


Pan-Turkism remains the political and ideological basis of Turkey’s foreign and domestic policy. In a country above 20, non-governmental and secular organizations that directly or indirectly advocate the creation of a belt of countries that are friendly and supported by Ankara. It includes at least 20 flags.

After the collapse of the USSR, Pan-Turkism is served along with neo-Ottomanism, which rests on history and the experience of the Ottoman Ports. It is about the promotion of social and state structure, which most effectively provides, as they continue to believe in Turkey, Turkic unity.

“According to the Kars Treaty, in the event of a threat to national security, Turkey has the right to send troops into Ajaria.”
It is noteworthy that the national government since September 2014 was headed by Ahmed Davutoglu - the main ideologist of Pan-Turkism in the country. By the way, he was previously Minister of Foreign Affairs.

Neo-Ottoman interpretation by Mr. Davutoglu of Pan-Turkism includes not so much nostalgia as promotion of the idea of ​​the “usefulness” of the Ottoman Empire, which, as the ideologue reminds, extends from the Adriatic and North Africa to the Dnieper and the Caspian basin.

During his visit to the self-proclaimed “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus”, Davutoglu, being Minister of Foreign Affairs, commented as follows: “The past century has become the page that we turned over. Now we will establish new connections between Sarajevo and Damascus, between Benghazi and Batumi. We will do it in a peaceful way, not fighting with anyone, respecting borders. This is our strength ... 110 years ago, Yemen and Skopje, Batumi and Benghazi were part of the same country - the Ottoman Empire. Speaking about this, we call upon ourselves the fire of accusations of neo-Ottomanism, but why, then, those who united all of Europe are not called unedited? ”

Many experts believe that this passage Davutoglu, albeit concise, signifies the preservation of Ankara’s adherence to the concept of Pan-Turkism, according to which all peoples speaking Turkic languages ​​are one nation. And therefore must unite with the rule of Turkey. This may be a federative, confederative entity, or at least a political-economic bloc under the auspices of Ankara.

Late to be with Batumi


The Georgia Times expert (Tbilisi) Ramaz Sakvarelidze said: “The idea of ​​pan-Turkism may well overlap with the idea of ​​Islamic fundamentalism, and this is dangerous not only for Georgia. Many want to change the map of political spheres of influence, and the same Turkey has long shown increased attention to the Caucasus. But Europe itself does not know how to reduce the danger of Pan-Turkism. ”

One hundred years grazingThe analyst of the same edition, Niko Chiatdze, has a more specific opinion. He believes that the mentioned “message” by Davutoglu is a transparent hint that Ankara, forming a “Turkic analogue of the European Union”, intends in this way to acquire the status of a great power, with which it will be necessary to reckon with everything.

The mention by Mr. Davutoglu of Batumi is very significant. Recall that Adjara, dominated by the Muslim population, has been part of the Russian Empire since 1879, and belongs to Georgia under the Treaty of Kars. According to this document, Turkey has the right to send troops to Ajaria in the event of a threat to national security.

The strategic importance of the port of Batumi, through which oil and products of its processing were exported even before the First World War, coupled with the deep water and vastness of its quays, has long attracted Ankara. In 1918 – 1920, Batum was periodically occupied by Turkey. It was he who was designated among the first objects of the plans of the Anglo-Turkish military invasion of the USSR in 1940 and intervention on the German side in 1941 – 1943. Moreover, Azerbaijani oil today is partially exported by the same route.

Georgian media now say: “The financial and economic expansion of Turkey has reached colossal proportions. All new facilities in Adjara were built by the Turks and are their property. The Turks are buying up land and building their objects, probably in the hope that soon they can be realized as residential apartments for compatriots. Today thousands of Turks are registered in Batumi. There have never been so many Turks in the whole of Adjara when it was part of the Ottoman Empire. ” By the way, the term of the Treaty of Kars expires in 23.

In Adjara, Ankara has the most systemic effect after 1991. But the infiltration of Pan-Turkist and pro-Turkish organizations in the USSR began at the end of the 20. And with 1987 – 1989, Pan-Turkist, including Islamist structures, many of which were secretly created in the USSR regions in 70 and even earlier, sharply increased their activity, established new branches and began to receive legal status. This is not only about the North Caucasus, Azerbaijan, Ajaria, but also about the Volga region, Yakutia, Altai, Crimea.

Many such groups have been transformed for accelerated legalization into trade, construction, manufacturing companies of Turkey. Or they acted and, it seems, continue their “work” under the roof of companies and seemingly humanitarian organizations that rushed to Russia and in general to post-Soviet Eurasia since 1990 – 1992. Judging by the separatist actions in the North Caucasus, for the time being there is no reason to assume that absolutely all organizations of the Pan-Turkist profile have been identified by the competent authorities and neutralized.

Anti-Soviet Socialist Republic


At the end of 20 - the beginning of 30 - among the Tatar and Bashkir communists, not without a hint from Turkish emissaries, the project of education in Central Russia of the “Socialist Republic of Turan”, which also included the Chuvash ASSR, was popular. And in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan at that time there was a secret group "Irk". She considered the whole of Turkestan as an education independent of Russia - the future “Turan state”. This structure had connections with Great Britain and Turkey.

In Azerbaijan, Dagestan, Karachay-Cherkessia, Chechen-Ingushetia, in the middle of 30, secret departments of the Council of the Confederation of the Caucasus, illegal in the USSR, founded in Turkey by immigrants from the mentioned regions at the end of 20's, were created. Quite a few members of this underground survived the war years, survived deportations to Kazakhstan and Central Asia, and then returned to their homelands.

After the sudden death of Stalin, the pressure on Pan-Turkism began to weaken. Moreover, some party-state leaders directly or indirectly supported relevant attitudes in society, which in fact was a guarantee for the preservation of pro-Turkish groups in the USSR.

Perhaps the most striking example is synchronism in lobbying and a kind of saving Pan-Turkism. In September, 1967, during the days when the then head of the Communist Party of Azerbaijan, Veli Akhundov, was in Constance (Romania), where he met with the Turkish ambassador to that country, the party leadership of the Tatar ASSR addressed Moscow with a proposal to unite autonomy with Bashkiria and "create a Tatar-Bashkir Soviet Union" Republic as part of the USSR. That is the idea of ​​the end of 20-x not sunk into oblivion.

A clear answer was given to the question of the Political Bureau of the Central Committee on the rationale of this proposal: “The Turkic peoples in this region want to unite just like the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia.” That is, already in those years, the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict was provoked by the Jesuit.

Obviously, the Kazan initiative was not passed, but the party leadership of Azerbaijan, Bashkiria and Tataria was replaced only at the end of the 60-x and the beginning of the 70-s. Is it any wonder the survivability of the Pan-Turkic projects in the now former USSR?

Border conversion courses


As for the financial and economic support of exporting such ideas to the disintegrating Soviet Union, back in 1990, Turkey actually approved an indefinite program for the development of political, economic and cultural ties with Turkic-speaking countries and territories of the USSR. Many Turkish media noted at that time that the Soviet empire was about to collapse and that “alien cosmopolitan influence” was affirmed in the republics and autonomies culturally ethnically related or close to Turkey. To implement the program from 1990 to 2010 in Turkey, over 60 financial-industrial structures and organizations of humanitarian cooperation were created in Turkey. Their “daughters”, branches appeared in Azerbaijan, Ajaria, Gagauzia, in all countries of Central Asia, as well as in the Crimea and Tatarstan, Bashkiria and Chuvashia, the Gorno-Altai Republic and Tuva, Yakutia and Khakassia, in the republics of the North Caucasus (except North Ossetia ). In Turkey, free courses were organized for media workers, educational and scientific institutions from these countries and regions. Listeners are taught not only Turkish, but also - mainly in the Pan-Turkic interpretation - the political and economic history of the Ottoman Empire and Turkey.

For employees of economic departments from the same countries and regions, 1989 – 1991 has organized training courses in the management of industries, enterprises and financial institutions that are used in Turkey. Actively training and retraining of military-technical personnel for the Turkic republics of the ex-USSR. Recreation areas for children and young people from the same place are organized.

Ankara’s total direct investment in the CIS countries, according to Webeconomy.ru and Turkish statistics, has more than tripled by the end of 2014, compared to 2000, to 15 billions of dollars. Moreover, the share of Turkic-speaking countries and territories in these investments increased over 1998 – 2014 years from 40 to 55 percent. The money is directed to industrial sectors, including the defense industry, to energy, transport infrastructure and food self-sufficiency projects. Leaders among the Turkic-speaking territories of the CIS in terms of investment from Turkey are now Azerbaijan (about 15%), Turkmenistan (approximately the same), Uzbekistan (10%), Kazakhstan (almost 10%), and also Tatarstan and Bashkiria (in 6%).

In fact, at the end of the 80s, a complex political, economic and ideological offensive of Turkey began, and in fact Pan-Turkism in many regions of the now-former USSR. What could not but lead to the growth of Ankara's political, economic and ideological influence in these territories. A characteristic feature: after the Second World War, the Pan-Turkic worldview abroad is being introduced without condemnation of Western political and ideological concepts, although they are still recognized as incapable of uniting the Turkic-speaking peoples and countries.

Such a metamorphosis is due to the fact that Turkey has been a NATO member since 1952. Since then, the main foreign policy objectives of other countries of the alliance and Ankara coincide at the official level. At the same time, materials of a pan-Turkic orientation still contain, although less provocative than before the middle of the 50's, attacks against the “colonial” policy of the Russian Empire and the USSR “to eradicate the national and cultural identity of the Turkic peoples and ethnic minorities traditional ties with the people of Turkey and its culture. ”

The practical activities of Pan-Turkist and pro-Turkish organizations in Russia and the CIS are far from officially declared. Because it includes activities that are usually qualified as interference in internal affairs. In Russia, over the past 15 years, the activities of the 15 order of such organizations and groups have been suspended or discontinued. Among them, for example, "Hizmet", "Nurdzhular", "Suleymandzhi", "Gray Wolves". But in the Turkic-speaking countries of the CIS, in Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine, such measures were taken much less.

For example, in 2008, the activities of the aforementioned “Nurcular” were banned in Russia. But its cells remained in the Turkic-speaking regions of the Russian Federation, albeit under different names. The total number of followers and sympathizers of “Nurdzhular” is estimated by experts of the special services at least four million people, and the main task of the organization is the propaganda of Pan-Turkic ideology and accelerated rapprochement with Turkey of other countries and territories. By the middle of 90's, Nurdzhular created over 30 schools in the Russian Federation, three language courses and even a university department. But only five years later, these educational institutions were redeveloped or closed in accordance with the decision of the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation as inconsistent with the general orientation of the Russian education system. In Turkic-speaking countries of the CIS, from 1992 to 2003, up to one hundred educational institutions in Central Asia were opened by this organization or with its participation, including the university and 30 lyceums in Kazakhstan. Almost all of them continue to work.

Another example: the banned in the Russian Federation Pan-Turkist extremist organization Gray Wolves, created by Turkish intelligence (MIT) in the fall of 1948, participated (possibly still participating) in supporting terrorists and separatists in the North Caucasus republics, extremists in Adjara, Crimea, Central Asian countries.

At the end of 2015, Russia discontinued its cooperation with the International Organization of Turkic Culture (Turksei). On November 29, the Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation Vladimir Medinsky sent an order to the heads of the republics of Altai, Bashkortostan, Sakha (Yakutia), Tatarstan, Tyva and Khakassia about the immediate cessation of all contacts with Turkse.

The headquarters of the organization is in Ankara, and the main funding is provided by Turkey. The structure is based on 12 July 1993. The officially declared goal is cooperation for the preservation, development and transfer to future generations of common material and cultural monuments of the Turkic peoples. But this organization, according to the available data, was also engaged in related activities aimed at promoting Pan-Turkic views, towards a more active rapprochement of the participating countries and territories with Turkey.

In a word, Ankara's geopolitical aspirations are based, as before, on the pan-Turkic ideology. Moreover, it began to be actively introduced into politics and external propaganda even before the collapse of the USSR. Therefore, today complex, carefully verified countermeasures are required both in the regions of Russia and in the republics of the former USSR subject to Turkish influence.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 31 January 2016 07: 18 New
    +4
    Even if the Turks fail with pan-Turkism, they can no longer be expelled from Batum. For Georgia, these territories are practically lost. Will Georgia not fight the country of her beloved NATO?
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 31 January 2016 07: 20 New
      +3
      A wonderful, relevant and very useful article! I learned from it a lot of new and very important for myself.
      I take an article on the note.

      To author +
      1. Talgat
        Talgat 31 January 2016 10: 12 New
        +9
        The article is interesting. but still the danger of pan-Turkism for the Russian Federation is exaggerated

        The plan for the consolidation of the Turkic peoples of the perished USSR around Turkey began immediately after the collapse of the 90's - and the Americans and the Turks spent a lot of money. And I remember the gifts from Turkey - including Kazakhstan gave military equipment. some hammers and jeeps to generals. Real investment went from Turkey

        But everything turned out to be in vain - no real result
        The Eurasian idea, Gumilev and all geopolitics (Mac Kmdera Spykmena) and theory have once again proved their point. The laws of nature cannot be changed and the river does not flow back

        Both Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan chose the Eurasian vector (it is understandable - the heirs of the Golden Horde - and not the Mediterranean), and with it the CSTO and the Eurasian Union. The Turks of Russia - the descendants of the nomadic steppe - will always be the basis and core of the Eurasian Empire.

        Pan-Turkism is popular in some narrow marginal strata of the "pseudo-intelligentsia" who read the political propaganda of the 90s
        In the masses it is absent at all - and even vice versa (even in the business environment in Almaty they speak with a smirk about "Turkish management", etc.)

        Russia should not be afraid of the consolidation of the Türks of the steppes - Altai Yakuts Tatars Bashkirs Kazakhs Kyrgyz will always be drawn to each other - but this does not mean that Turkey is against the foreign state and against Russia.

        For example, the Poles also have a language similar to Russian - but not much proximity
        1. Aleks.Antonov
          Aleks.Antonov 31 January 2016 10: 36 New
          +6
          Talgat, let's wait for the death of Nursultan Abishevich!
          1. -Traveller-
            -Traveller- 31 January 2016 12: 54 New
            +2
            It will be interesting to look at the region after the "departure" of Nazarbayev and Karimov.
        2. -Traveller-
          -Traveller- 31 January 2016 11: 05 New
          -3
          how many strange ideas can be moved - humilism, heartland, etc. heresy?
          and why did you suddenly record the Tatars with the Bashkirs in company with the Kazakh-Kyrgyz? Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan will cling to Russia or China rather because of “friendship” with the Uzbeks, and not because of fictitious Eurasianism, a yurt and koumiss.
          on the contrary, the Tatars and Bashkirs, experiencing the long-term demographic pressure of the Russians, are more likely to be pro-Turkish, which will increase as the born and raised in the USSR die out. these moods are mostly latent, but they are and are being strengthened, which, incidentally, at the present stage is also promoted by the anti-Sunni position of Russia in the Syrian conflict.
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        4. avt
          avt 31 January 2016 11: 21 New
          +6
          Quote: Talgat
          The article is interesting. but still the danger of pan-Turkism for the Russian Federation is exaggerated

          No. Well, in the first place - even if you only smell sulfur, it is better to arrange the production of holy water on an industrial scale in advance; in the second - I have already written more than once, Erdogan moves pan-Turkism in front of him like a carrot for rabbits, but in fact he is building a new Ottoman empire and if he succeeded, he would have thrown this pan-Turkism into the trash without looking. Since the cementing factor for him is Islamism itself as an ideological basis, and the level of radicalization is above average, ideally like that of the Saudis. But on the fact of the development of events in Syria on Today, he is really driving national civil war into TURKEY. A whole 2nd field army has been thrown to the aid of the gendarmerie and police against the Kurds and is already deploying tanks in Dyarbakir, and field artillery is working not only in the adjacent Syrian territory, and more recently, aviation bombed Iraqi and Syrian Kurds.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 31 January 2016 12: 40 New
            +6
            Quote: avt
            A whole 2nd field army has been thrown to the aid of the gendarmerie and police against the Kurds and is already deploying tanks in Dyarbakir, and field artillery is working not only in the adjacent Syrian territory, and more recently, aviation bombed Iraqi and Syrian Kurds.
            - It seems like the Russians do not sleep either - the SU-35S link was transferred to Syria ("05 red", "04 red", 03 "red" and 02 "red"), the A-50U is also planned for permanent deployment in Syria ... The A-50U in conjunction with the SU-30 and SU-35S, and also with the SU-34, which can operate as fighters - this is actually a very solid group, which the Turks with their hundred and a half F-16s (I don't even consider the rest due to the complete slop) it will be very problematic to crush.
            And in Turkey, the "orange" level of danger has been declared, and the Air Force has been put on full alert.
            Something will happen. Again "the Russian bomber violated the Turkish border", this time NATO and the United States unequivocally supported the Turks. This is a bad sign.
            But it seems that Putin and his allies are not going to surrender. So, NATO, Turks and Yusovtsy will have to tear the fifth point on the British flag, but it's a pity, like the good guys were laughing
            1. avt
              avt 31 January 2016 13: 19 New
              +3
              Quote: aksakal
              But it seems that Putin and his allies are not going to surrender.

              Well, his upbringing is not like that " laughing But he will not get stupidly on the rampage and, like a true fighter, he will prepare the technique for use at the right time, but do not hesitate what he will do. Erdogan specifically offended him, and if Putin has broken through - "they won't get off with tomatoes alone," then he was torn apart quite specifically.
              Quote: aksakal
              Again "the Russian bomber violated the Turkish border", this time NATO and the United States unequivocally supported the Turks. This is a bad sign.

              what I’m not ready to answer unequivocally, but Erdogan’s campaign is hysterical, and then why did he IMMEDIATELY request a meeting with "respected Putin" laughing
              Quote: aksakal
              And Turkey has declared an "orange" hazard level,
              This is understandable - they actually close the border, well, at least they occupy key heights and there will be no rampages, as before. Again, we and the Syrians are making close contact with the Kurds and not by some Borzanists fed from two hands - by us and Erdogan's family, but by the Ajalanists of the PKK! And what is going on in Turkish Kurdistan - “human rights activists” are silent, but there are already hundreds of thousands of internal refugees, the ATO is no worse than in the Donbass! And the Turks did not crush them with overwhelming superiority in equipment and heavy weapons!
        5. Mangel olys
          Mangel olys 31 January 2016 12: 41 New
          +3
          Both Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan chose the Eurasian vector (it is understandable - the heirs of the Golden Horde - and not the Mediterranean), and with it the CSTO and the Eurasian Union. The Turks of Russia - the descendants of the nomadic steppe - will always be the basis and core of the Eurasian Empire.

          Talgat, I give you "+" for the "Eurasian idea".
  2. Mangel olys
    Mangel olys 31 January 2016 07: 38 New
    -6
    Rafael Khakimov: "Today Erdogan rules in Turkey, tomorrow there may be a completely different leader, but the country and the people remain ... Tatarstan has always been able to find a common language in the most difficult political situations. We can say that our whole republic is diplomatic by nature. Our trick. By preserving good relations with Turkey, we can remain the platform where it will be convenient to conduct negotiations on the restoration of broken ties. "
    1. ZYRYANIN
      ZYRYANIN 31 January 2016 08: 50 New
      +2
      Even V.I. Lenin raised the issue of the role of the individual in history. I agree that after Erdogan's departure, everything can change radically. Turks are practical people and, unlike the Slavs, they can trample their own "I" for profit. Therefore, there will be no special problems with the people of Turkey, but only with the leaders, whose forceful methods of implanting their own ideas in the country prevail over political
    2. avt
      avt 31 January 2016 11: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: Mangel Olys
      By preserving good relations with Turkey, we can remain the platform where it will be convenient to conduct negotiations to restore broken ties. "

      what “It's a pity that neither me nor you will have to live a wonderful time at that time ..." "Changes are coming." laughing Something tells me that if a positive scenario develops for Assad in Syria, the Naglosaki will not object too much to the unleashing of a full-scale civil war in Turkey, and will even help, but actually they are already helping even the terrorist PKK declared by them, or rather the structures that are involved with it. "Changes are coming," and they have already drawn and published maps of the new states and Kurdistan in particular. Say nonsense? Well, look and find HOW the Entente ALREADY once dismembered the "Sick Man of Europe" according to their patterns and how Lenin and the Bolsheviks I didn't let him be cut to the end - I helped him with gold and weapons.
  3. Sirocco
    Sirocco 31 January 2016 07: 58 New
    12
    What can I say? Thanks to the author, it is interesting, and once again confirms that peace with Turkey is not a priori possible in Russia. All the wars with Turkey began with the Turks at the suggestion of England, as now the same ears stick out. A Caucasian shower was arranged for us by our "partners" as well as English. And the EU as a whole, with funding from the CA and Qatar, again through the hands of Turkish partners.
    In general, it is time to treat this disease until the metastases have spread.
    1. Aleks.Antonov
      Aleks.Antonov 31 January 2016 11: 00 New
      0
      A "Caucasian shower" was arranged for us by a certain Yeltsin. Regretting the medal to General Dudaev. In all our troubles, we ourselves are to blame. And only then, there are good people hurrying to help us, dig deeper with a stick or a sapper shovel in a fresh wound.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 31 January 2016 14: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: Aleks.Antonov
        . And then, there are kind people rushing to our aid,

        You are a little mistaken, Yeltsin is a separate issue here. And in an article in Russian on white it is written that Turkey, incited by England and not only, for the last couple of centuries, certainly, has been picking its dirty little hands in the wounds of Russia.
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 31 January 2016 08: 14 New
    +6
    Turkey's hostile actions in Syria are a good reason to limit "cultural" contacts as much as possible ...
    I think that the Moscow owners of Russian-speaking hotels on the Turkish Riviera have a different opinion.
    Unfortunately, in modern Russia: the business is the Tsar, and God and Mother are dear.
  5. fa2998
    fa2998 31 January 2016 08: 30 New
    +7
    Quote: Tatiana
    A wonderful, relevant and very useful article!

    And what is the article about? That Turkey is trying to create a kind of union of countries that were part of the Ottoman Empire and others where the Turks live. And this makes us nervous. And this is very nervous against the background of the fact that Russia has always been the core of the great state of the Russian Empire and USSR. And a whole camp of allies starting from Eastern Europe and the Mongolian People's Republic and the DPRK. After all, ANY state seeks to push back its borders, to form a kind of "foreground" against potential adversaries. And who to ask that to this day, for 25 years already, our "foreground" is shrinking like shagreen skin! We are all dissatisfied with all sorts of "color" revolutions, we need to take this weapon of the enemy into our arsenal. It is necessary to promote the arrival of regimes friendly to Russia. It is necessary to enclose Russia with a belt of pro-Russian countries (or simply neutral). And at the moment we have "Arambs" under Pskov stand! hi
  6. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 31 January 2016 08: 31 New
    +9
    The attempts of the neo-Ottomanists in Bulgaria reach the point of absurdity. Their last "pearl" is a statement that there was no Ottoman yoke in Bulgaria, but "cohabitation"! They want to "prove" that the Bulgarians lived well in the Ottoman Empire, Russia "did not free" us and other nonsense.

    Now, rallies are going on in Bulgaria against this mockery of national memory, and the Minister of Education has resigned.
    1. igordok
      igordok 31 January 2016 09: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: ivanovbg
      Now rallies in Bulgaria против this mockery of national memory, and the Minister of Education resigned.

      Time will pass, and overseas friends will give evidence that the Proto-Bulgarians dug up the Black Sea, the prophet Muhammad from the Bulgarians, the Russians did not release, but occupied Bulgaria. People will grab. In Ukraine, this happened in Cheers.
    2. avt
      avt 31 January 2016 12: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: ivanovbg
      The attempts of neo-Ottomans in Bulgaria reach the point of absurdity

      It really could be called the theater of the absurd ... BUT! Take into account the factual change in the ethnic composition of the population of Bulgaria, the movement of refugees to Europe with a quota for their settlement in the EU countries, Bulgaria seems to be included in it, and now the picture is RADICALLY changing, and "old Europe" will, if possible, "squeeze out", , refugees "to the Balkans. And this is no longer an absurdity, but quite a normal PR action of a completely launched process of new resettlement of peoples. So this is a payment for a membership card in the EU and NATO.
  7. am808s
    am808s 31 January 2016 08: 50 New
    +5
    Quote: Sirocco


    Turkish metastases, as the article shows, are not only preserved, they are trying to maintain growth and penetrate the head. When we feel it will be too late!
  8. -Traveller-
    -Traveller- 31 January 2016 09: 59 New
    -6
    the author has put everything together - pan-Turkism, Adjara, neo-Ottomanism, gray wolves ... recorded Davutoglu among the ardent pan-Turkists.
    ideology of the so-called Neo-Ottomanism, adhered to by the current leaders of Turkey, obviously implies the restoration of the influence of Turkey in countries formerly part of the Ottoman Empire. What side is Pan-Turkism, if all these countries are non-Turkic?
    pan-Turkism is the trump card of just the opponents of Erdogan and Davutoglu - the party of the nationalist movement (gray wolves - the military wing of the party, and emerged after the appearance of the mhp, and not in 1948) and to some extent the Kemalists from the Republican People's Party.
  9. zczczc
    zczczc 31 January 2016 10: 06 New
    +4
    Quote: Pereira
    Even if the Turks fail with pan-Turkism, they can no longer be expelled from Batum

    difficult but possible in the old way.

    who "sits" in Batumi, he looks at 1000km around, and even more.
    Quote: ZYRYANIN
    Turks are practical people and, unlike the Slavs, they can trample on their own "I"

    yes but for the time being.

    Thanks to the author.
    1. avt
      avt 31 January 2016 13: 26 New
      0
      Quote: zczczc
      Quote: ZYRYANIN
      Turks are practical people and, unlike the Slavs, they can trample on their own "I"
      yes but for the time being.

      “If you can’t cut off your hand, kiss it” - it seems that the saying is translated by them. By the way - Erdogan himself, this “pan-Turkist” born in Istanbul, his parents are ethnic Georgians Ajarians Muslims .... well, nakraynyak mengrels laughing Here is such a "Turk" ponimash.
  10. teacher
    teacher 31 January 2016 11: 26 New
    +4
    you need to invest money in Kurdistan, help the PKK, declare the "Gray Wolves" a terrorist organization, sway the topic of the Armenian genocide, etc., only then will they forget pan-Turkism and other heresy
    1. Karlos
      Karlos 31 January 2016 12: 52 New
      -1
      What does "rocking the topic of the Armenian Genocide" mean? That is, when the relationship between Russia and Turkey has worsened, the topic needs to be swayed, if everything goes well, then how should it be forgotten?
      1. -Traveller-
        -Traveller- 31 January 2016 13: 00 New
        -2
        and what does the topic of genocide give? I don’t understand what the struggle is for. monetary compensation to the descendants of the victims? so the Turks are not Germans - where you sit down, you get down. ears don’t even get from a dead donkey.
  11. teacher
    teacher 31 January 2016 15: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: Karlos
    What does "rocking the topic of the Armenian Genocide" mean? That is, when the relationship between Russia and Turkey has worsened, the topic needs to be swayed, if everything goes well, then how should it be forgotten?

    normal pragmatic campaign, did the Republic of Armenia (by the way, like Belarus) support us a lot in connection with the events in Ukraine and Syria? No, they also have a pragmatic approach, so nothing personal, just business.
    Now you can only hope for your army and navy
  12. Lelek
    Lelek 31 January 2016 16: 44 New
    +3
    “The financial and economic expansion of Turkey has reached tremendous proportions. All new facilities in Adjara were built by the Turks and are their property. The Turks are buying up land and building their facilities, probably in the expectation that soon they can be realized as residential apartments for compatriots. Today, 23 thousand Turks are registered in Batumi. In all Adjara, so many Turks never lived when it was part of the Ottoman Empire ”

    And so it will be. You and your Georgian longevity ... yourself destroyed the unity of your small country, destroyed the foundation on which the multinational balance was held, proclaimed the priority of the Georgians over the other nations. minorities - that's what they got. And this is not yet evening.
  13. maxim1987
    maxim1987 31 January 2016 16: 47 New
    +4
    I remember in 2001, Turks came to our school (Chuvashia) to invite them to study in the Chuvash-Turkish lyceum. They dumped me (I was pretty), but I told them that I come from the hero city of Sevastopol so drop off
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 31 January 2016 19: 36 New
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      Quote: maximNNX
      I remember in 2001, Turks came to our school (Chuvashia) to invite them to study in the Chuvash-Turkish lyceum. They dumped me (I was pretty), but I told them that I come from the hero city of Sevastopol so drop off

      we have KTL a prestigious educational institution where a competition as a prestigious university 10 people per place. And not a few applicants are not Kazakhs, though there they give preference to Muslims, at least in our south of Kazakhstan.
  14. zczczc
    zczczc 31 January 2016 20: 14 New
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    [quote = avt] this ,, pan-Turkist "who was born in Istanbul, his parents are ethnic Georgians Ajarians Muslims .... well, nakraynyak mengrels Here is such a ,, Turk" ponimash [/ quote]

    so what? what's the difference who the parents are? it contains exactly as much Georgian as Chinese.

    [quote = Lelek] In all of Adjara, so many Turks never lived when it was part of the Ottoman Empire ”[/ quote]

    Do you have data from the Ottoman Empire? share, please, I will be very grateful.
    for reference: the Turks in Batumi were prescribed by personal order of Saakashvili. In other areas of Adjara they are not and never have been. But Batumi of Ottoman times was a dirty and marshy village the size of 1,5 streets where in the summer no one lived practically, everyone was mowed down by a malaria. Who and how began to improve it is a separate and interesting story.
    By the way, in Batumi in the central park there are two trees that were planted by Alexander III and young Nikolai II. There is a good book about old Batumi with photographs in Georgian. You can make a translation, but who will be interested? to nobody.

    [quote = Lelek] You, with your Georgian dolbo ... ostvo yourself destroyed the unity of your small country [/ quote]
    And where there is no ... dolstva? it is enough everywhere. What, in Russia he is not?
    quote = Lelek] proclaimed the priority of Georgians over other nat. minorities [/ quote]
    Who proclaimed it and when? paper on the table! I will tell you thanks.
  15. Xent
    Xent 31 January 2016 20: 56 New
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    For Russia, Georgia, Iran and Armenia, pan-Turkism and pan-Islamism have always beaten and will remain more than just a threat.
  16. zczczc
    zczczc 1 February 2016 09: 31 New
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    Quote: Xent
    For Russia, Georgia, Iran and Armenia, pan-Turkism and pan-Islamism have always beaten and will remain more than just a threat.

    Yes and yes again! that says it all, nothing to add!