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Media: in Kiev, the issue of the special status of the Kharkiv region is discussed

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A forum was held in Kiev, the participants of which spoke in support of the adoption of the law “On a special development region - Slobozhanschyna”. The project is planned to be implemented in the Kharkiv region, reports RIA News message of the agency “Voice. UA ".


Media: in Kiev, the issue of the special status of the Kharkiv region is discussed


The forum was attended by public figures, political scientists and deputies from the Kharkiv region.

“If the draft law is passed, the regional budget will receive about three billion hryvnias due to the redistribution of tax collections between the center and the region, as well as the restoration of economic ties with Russia,” experts of the Slobozhanshchina Public Council believe.

The Ukrainian edition notes that "a number of well-known European politicians and deputies supported the introduction of the principle of electing governors in Ukraine." At the same time, they condemned the “undue pressure” of law enforcement agencies on members of Slobozhanshchina.

Kharkiv city council deputy Alexei Perepelitsa said at the forum: “US Vice President Joe Biden noted that Ukraine needs to create autonomous, independent states that solve their own problems, which define their own educational system, the government within the framework of a unified Constitution. I can say with confidence that this is the right course. ”

He stressed that the only goal of the project is to "improve the quality of life of the population and solve acute social problems."

Deputy Lozovsky City Council Irina Balyasina stated the need to abandon the practice of appointing heads of regions.

“I want to emphasize that each region of Ukraine should independently elect its own governor. Why in a democratic country, the president appoints the head of the whole region? Our bill provides for the solution of such issues, ”said Balyasina.

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    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 26 January 2016 19: 10
      +4
      We sat, battered, parted. Even Biden was dragged. What's next? Will the result be? They think that Porosenko will run an agreement with them to sign?
      1. 34 region
        34 region 26 January 2016 20: 13
        15
        Oleg gr! 19.10. Have you sat, parted? Or maybe the process of sharing begins? To whom, to whom nothing. Such a division into spheres of influence of the outlined circle of persons. The allocation of serfs to certain individuals. Autonomous states! Like independent field commanders! I do not believe in election there. Put on a minimum self-sufficiency, then I believe. To restore the economy? Why then destroyed? They can fix the EU country over the region (oversee). After all, it’s not the same amers who bear the costs. Expenses are shared! And Poroshenko will carry out the commands. In general, there will be Ukrainian Afghanistan. The circuit is simple, reliable, and so far works without failures.
        1. marna
          marna 26 January 2016 21: 00
          +9
          “US Vice President Joe Biden noted that in Ukraine it is necessary to create autonomous, independent states that solve their own problems, which define their own educational system, government within the framework of a unified Constitution. I can confidently say that this is the right course. ”

          Very reminiscent of the "parade of sovereignties" at the turn of the 80s - 90s and the famous Yeltsin
          Take power as much as you can swallow
          . Then the collapse of the USSR.
          1. krot
            krot 26 January 2016 23: 05
            +1
            These id..you posted quotes and the main inspiration - customer - Biden. Now the states are in full control of our "brothers" - who have betrayed themselves.
          2. not main
            not main 27 January 2016 02: 27
            +2
            Quote: marna
            Take power as much as you can swallow
            . Then the collapse of the USSR.

            Reply
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            Actually, it was the opposite! First, the collapse of the USSR, and then the "parade of sovereignties"! Although this does not remove the responsibility from the EBN!
            1. marna
              marna 27 January 2016 10: 14
              +1
              Quote: non-primary
              First the collapse of the USSR, and then the "parade of sovereignties"!

              Wrong! The "parade of sovereignties" just led to the collapse of the Union. The so-called "parade ..." began at the end of 1988. from the Baltic republics, in my opinion, even Estonia was the first. You can clarify in Wiki. And Belovezhskaya Pushcha was in December 1991, where an agreement was adopted on the termination of the existence of the USSR and the formation of the CIS. In December, the State Duma ratified it, or the Supreme Council was still there, it doesn't matter.
          3. Dry_T-50
            Dry_T-50 27 January 2016 13: 55
            0
            Quote: marna
            Very reminiscent of the "parade of sovereignties" at the turn of the 80s - 90s and the famous Yeltsin
            Take as much power as you can swallow. Then the collapse of the USSR.

            Actually, this was addressed to the republics of the RSFSR, and not to the allied ones, because the RSFSR also collapsed parallel with the collapse of the USSR. , and the Soviet Union collapsed as a result of the attempt of the State Emergency Committee to save the federation (the new union was proposed to be made Confederative)
      2. revnagan
        revnagan 26 January 2016 20: 17
        +4
        Quote: oleg-gr
        . Even Biden was dragged.

        That's right, you need to beat the enemy with his own weapon. Biden said "good" federalization? Biden himself! Who will trample on Biden in Ukraine? Give federalization! "The chief ordered!" (Cit.)
      3. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov 26 January 2016 21: 14
        +4
        That is how one should live. Residents of each region should choose the language of their communication and literature. The language of instruction for their children, the development of economic, political ties. The presence, absence of boundaries of their areas. What kind of TV do they want to watch. And of course, the election of all officials from rural to governor. Guaranteed compulsory service in the sun near your home. That is full federalization. This is exactly what Donbass wanted. And bomb him
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 26 January 2016 19: 22
      38
      And if dill federalized the regions 2 years ago, because how many people would have been alive, Donbass and Lugansk only asked for a special status, but there was no unitarity, Ukraine ponad mustache, vicious ghouls, so there would be no Slobozhanshchina, their own fascists and law-abductors stranglehold for their toadstool Ukraine ponad mustache.
      1. rotor
        rotor 26 January 2016 19: 36
        +4
        Joe Biden: "It is important that there are autonomous, independent states that solve their problems on their own, have their own educational system, government under a unified Constitution."


        Americans, unlike Ukrainians, do not see anything wrong with federalism, in the United States this is normal.

        So that Kiev does not get out. laughing
        1. Just me
          Just me 26 January 2016 19: 49
          +1
          YOUNG !!!
          1. bannik
            bannik 26 January 2016 21: 54
            +8
            Well done, well done, only this was necessary 2-3 years ago. Today - it will be GULIA_POLE, which is necessary for star-whale. Not to replace the current corrupt Kiev power with normal, sane people who care about the country, but to tear Ukraine apart, to pit them together - that’s their task. What a bastard you need to turn a self-sufficient, developing country into a truly outskirts of everything and everything!
      2. sever.56
        sever.56 26 January 2016 19: 47
        22
        Quote: vlad66
        , their own fascists and pravoseki strangle for their toadstool


        And let me ask you: - who is this "toadstool" ???
        Kharkov was ALWAYS a Russian city. My uncle and cousin lived there.
        In Soviet times, uncle studied at Kharkov University, married there, taught at the university, had a doctorate in geological and mineralogical sciences. He died three years ago, and in January of this year, my brother Sergey also died. He was only 53 years old. My heart could not stand looking at all this filth. And there are hundreds of thousands of such people there. Someone cannot stand it and dies, someone has been in prison for years, ordinary people simply survive.
        And "their", as you say, fascists there are thousandths of a percent. They caught up with scumbags and fans of football clubs from the "zapadenshchina", and they are led by ideological Bandera supporters, who every hour hammer into their heads the ideas of Ukrainian nationalism.
        So who are the "toadstools"? Answer.
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 26 January 2016 19: 59
          17
          Quote: sever.56
          Quote: vlad66
          , their own fascists and pravoseki strangle for their toadstool


          And let me ask you: - who is this "toadstool" ???
          Kharkov was ALWAYS a Russian city. My uncle and cousin lived there.
          In Soviet times, uncle studied at Kharkov University, married there, taught at the university, had a doctorate in geological and mineralogical sciences. He died three years ago, and in January of this year, my brother Sergey also died. He was only 53 years old. My heart could not stand looking at all this filth. And there are hundreds of thousands of such people there. Someone cannot stand it and dies, someone has been in prison for years, ordinary people simply survive.
          And "their", as you say, fascists there are thousandths of a percent. They caught up with scumbags and fans of football clubs from the "zapadenshchina", and they are led by ideological Bandera supporters, who every hour hammer into their heads the ideas of Ukrainian nationalism.
          So who are the "toadstools"? Answer.

          Dear Valery, in no way did Raz want to insult people, he simply did not look and did not edit, since I write on the phone and he edits himself, but my thought was this: They won’t give fascists and pravoseki strangle Ukraine with a mustache, that’s how it was more precisely, so I apologize if I offended, from now on I will be more attentive, with respect hi
          1. sever.56
            sever.56 26 January 2016 20: 05
            +6
            Vladislav, thanks! I got it. Yours faithfully hi
          2. Just me
            Just me 26 January 2016 20: 11
            0
            As if everything goes to that
        2. Just me
          Just me 26 January 2016 20: 08
          0
          Not very clear everything Very difficult
          1. krot
            krot 26 January 2016 23: 09
            +1
            Yes, everything is simple! Betrayed Russia, lick ass west!
        3. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 26 January 2016 20: 32
          +3
          I will answer this way .. "Toadstools" are those who watched reports with burning "Berkutites" with beer, no matter what language they speak .. And now they are plowing three shifts at military factories, arming this gang. And if they start lament about their bitter lot, about the dominance of the Westerners - there is nothing else but disgust for them .. They are greedy and toadstools in Africa ..
          Quote: sever.56
          Quote: vlad66
          , their own fascists and pravoseki strangle for their toadstool


          And let me ask you: - who is this "toadstool" ???
          Kharkov was ALWAYS a Russian city. My uncle and cousin lived there.
          In Soviet times, uncle studied at Kharkov University, married there, taught at the university, had a doctorate in geological and mineralogical sciences. He died three years ago, and in January of this year, my brother Sergey also died. He was only 53 years old. My heart could not stand looking at all this filth. And there are hundreds of thousands of such people there. Someone cannot stand it and dies, someone has been in prison for years, ordinary people simply survive.
          And "their", as you say, fascists there are thousandths of a percent. They caught up with scumbags and fans of football clubs from the "zapadenshchina", and they are led by ideological Bandera supporters, who every hour hammer into their heads the ideas of Ukrainian nationalism.
          So who are the "toadstools"? Answer.
        4. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 26 January 2016 20: 45
          +5
          Quote: sever.56
          So who are the "toadstools"? Answer.

          I agree with you "North", there are relatives there, above the roof, and those who grew up and studied in the Union understand the depth of humiliation and fall, but the youth who studied at the end of the Soviet period and in the 90s are no longer the same, that our generation, they do not understand the essence of what is happening, are not taught to analyze what they see, but hawala everything that is shoved into them. Hungry, angry, insane. And those who grew up in the nezalezhnaya - these, just darkness. They can only be re-educated by cold, hunger or a bullet. sad
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 26 January 2016 21: 21
            +5
            Last year, the last time I talked with my former MPEI fellow students living in Ukraine .. This is already six dozen people, and nine out of ten behaved like cattle in conversation .. By the way, two of them come from Russia, a Smolyan and a Kuryan .. I wanted to talk for life and learned a lot about myself and my country .. And you say youth ...
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            Quote: sever.56
            So who are the "toadstools"? Answer.

            I agree with you "North", there are relatives there, above the roof, and those who grew up and studied in the Union understand the depth of humiliation and fall, but the youth who studied at the end of the Soviet period and in the 90s are no longer the same, that our generation, they do not understand the essence of what is happening, are not taught to analyze what they see, but hawala everything that is shoved into them. Hungry, angry, insane. And those who grew up in the nezalezhnaya - these, just darkness. They can only be re-educated by cold, hunger or a bullet. sad
        5. a housewife
          a housewife 27 January 2016 01: 48
          0
          I'm so sorry. I really understand. (Sever.56)
      3. Persistent
        Persistent 26 January 2016 20: 28
        0
        And if dill federalized the regions 2 years ago, because how many people would be alive

        I doubt it ... Nats baht do not care.
    3. ars_pro
      ars_pro 26 January 2016 19: 27
      +1
      I put a minus, in such a subtle question, I can refer to the positive work experience in the agricultural sector, for example, Mogilchenko, but since the issue of electivity, it is probably hard for the average person to understand the meaning. I can only hope for a positive attitude towards the issue, then it’s certainly in my opinion, but if development is outlined, and positive trends for cooperation and socio-cultural development of the region, for example, although there are needs in other areas, it would not be bad, although such questions.
      1. hartlend
        hartlend 26 January 2016 19: 50
        +1
        Minus for bad news or a bad article. As I understood from the comment, I did not like the news itself. Let's write only about what we like and read only selected news. And life will change.
        1. ars_pro
          ars_pro 26 January 2016 21: 33
          0
          Less to the one who called names! I am neutral towards the news, and yes, I read selected news (resources) and, if possible (literature, music) only what I like. But the respected life is changing very, if not noticed, and so
      2. avt
        avt 26 January 2016 19: 55
        +4
        Quote: ars_pro
        I can only hope for a positive attitude towards the issue, then it’s certainly in my opinion, but if development is outlined, and positive trends for cooperation and socio-cultural development of the region, for example, although there are needs in other areas, it would not be bad, although such questions.

        wassat Yes-ah-ah-ah ..... How everything is started that .... laughing Excuse me, what dimension do you live in! ???? I don’t ask about the country, now the US doesn’t even know which country you will live in, well, except that after the Crimeans in LDNR they know for sure.
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Late brothers, late ...
        With all this "federalization-decentralization", it was necessary under Kuchma to decide when the zapadentsi were the first to scream about it, and now the train has left and not on the side track. Is it really not clear a simple and quite obvious fact - the oligarchs after the elections, when de facto fenced off estates, will now press and de yuro the status of their beloved in these very estates, knocked out for feeding, and "Slobozhanshchina" is simply Beni's protectorate under the supervision of his burgomaster Gepa and Dopa, who is dangling somewhere out there with his brother, a drug addict at the Rada? And you are still from this alignment
        Quote: ars_pro
        , it would be nice,

        want to track !! ??? wassat laughing ,, Well, you, damn it, give! "Yes, stupidly, after all that happened, there is NOTHING MORE TO FUCK in the Ruin and Kharkiv region specifically, now the turn has come to the PENNY DISTRIBUTED AT THE CENTER, which is actually honestly stated in the article
        “If the draft law is passed, the regional budget will receive about three billion hryvnias due to the redistribution of tax collections between the center and the region, as well as the restoration of economic ties with Russia,” experts of the Slobozhanshchina Public Council believe.
  2. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 January 2016 19: 09
    10
    as well as the restoration of economic ties with Russia

    Late brothers, late ...
  3. meriem1
    meriem1 26 January 2016 19: 09
    +7
    It started from where you need it! Question HOW will it end? I feel sorry for people. The fascists will not leave it like that.
    1. Sober
      Sober 26 January 2016 20: 29
      +1
      Well, why, if Biden himself took up the standardization.
  4. sever.56
    sever.56 26 January 2016 19: 10
    16
    But no, "robots" ... The train has already left !!! As you do not twist your "left" affairs, and soon Slobozhanshchina, the primordially Russian land - will either be independent from Kuev, or will return to Russia !!!
    You can find in the network that was part of the land called Slobozhanshchina. It included Sumy, Belgorod and Kharkov regions. It was also called: - Slobodskaya serif line, Slobozhansky outskirts. In the Belgorod region lived my ancestors - archers, who guarded the southwestern borders of Russia from Turkish raids in the Sloboda Khotezhskaya starting in 1643. Slobozhanshchina - primordially Russian land !!!
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 26 January 2016 19: 14
      11
      Quote: sever.56
      But no, "robyat" ... No matter how you twist your "left" affairs, and soon Slobozhanshchina, the primordially Russian land, will either be independent from Kuev. or will return to Russia !!!

      She is native throughout the coast !!! To Odessa Moms! Polish henchmen didn’t pour blood for her ... But they sing that they were digging something .............
  5. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 26 January 2016 19: 11
    0
    "it is necessary to create autonomous, independent states in Ukraine"

    Yes, yes, like the Cossacks in antiquity. smile
  6. Your friend
    Your friend 26 January 2016 19: 12
    +3
    “A number of well-known European politicians and European deputies supported the introduction of the principle of election of governors in Ukraine”

    Well, if the gentlemen gave the green light, the slaves must fulfill.
  7. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 January 2016 19: 13
    +5
    Yes guys, and who will feed Kiev? Redistribution, Millions of hryvnia back and forth.
    God help you if only you survived.
    In the hall, boys and girls have thin necks, how do you stand against Bendera?
    1. KVIRTU
      KVIRTU 26 January 2016 20: 14
      +2
      That's the point "who will feed Kiev".
      For comparison (at the household level): in 2013 in Kiev, heating for a kopeck piece with a heat meter for a house (during the heating period) was about 50 cu was, and a little for the district - all 100, twice.
      To paraphrase: where did the money come from, Zin, for Kiev?
      I mean, Kiev is about 5 million registered electorate, 2 million who came to work - they will not want to live "like everyone else" (in Ukraine) - it will be expensive.
      And 7 million voters across Ukraine will not want to lose anyone. So that...
    2. avt
      avt 26 January 2016 22: 35
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Yes guys, and who will feed Kiev? Redistribution, Millions of hryvnia back and forth.

      Well, what kind of "redistribution" ?? Benny and the lads want to eat just as satisfyingly in Switzerland. There is nothing to share in the ruins! Putin warned them morons - they don’t believe SO ALWAYS! The EU allocated quotas for them ... for the produced volume chicken -1%, which has already been CHOSEN in a month !! And so that's it! But with Russia they really broke and the GDP for Crimea added a pinchishche to their butt. So something happened that their smart people warned about Ishchenko at our TVC - the oligarchs divided the Krajina into uluses and now they say - Why do we need Kiev? To whom the IMF and USA DO NOT GIVE THE PROMISED TRANCHES IN 2015! And who moved somewhere in 2016! So the question arose - why, if we can’t give a damn about the loan, we’ll also take the money away from Kiev?
      Quote: KVIRTU
      For comparison (at the household level): in 2013 in Kiev, heating for a kopeck piece with a heat meter for a house (during the heating period) was about 50 cu was, and a little for the district - all 100, twice.
      To paraphrase: where did the money come from, Zin, for Kiev?
      I mean, Kiev is about 5 million registered electorate, 2 million who came to work - they will not want to live "like everyone else" (in Ukraine) - it will be expensive.

      And they don't give a shit about the ragul electorate! It is easier to dispose of them in the ATO and bury them under the sign - "Surgical waste", and it will also be useful if they are sent partially in the form of organs to the EU, well, they will have time to put in the refrigerator.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 January 2016 19: 19
    +3
    The ice has broken, gentlemen ...? Let Svidomity discuss the new boundaries of the regions, the laws of federalization, etc. They will be busy, m less will be sprayed with poisonous saliva.
  9. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 26 January 2016 19: 24
    +5
    In general, this already happened, we had in the days of ebony .. Give us as much sovereignty as we want ... Yes, take it, boobies, you don’t have enough blood ..
  10. Altona
    Altona 26 January 2016 19: 28
    10
    For what have you fought so furiously for 2 years? Two large regions were smashed to smithereens for the sake of independence, tens of thousands of people were laid. To run again in a circle and return to federalism, which matured yesterday, by the year 2004, which was actively discussed in 2013 and which was rejected by the "patriots of Ukraine". It is worth recognizing that the project Ukraine has finally collapsed, at least on the mental level, because they no longer think in terms of a single country. Kiev is still hovering in mriyas and hvantazies, and the regions are discussing delimitation and distancing.
  11. Masya masya
    Masya masya 26 January 2016 19: 30
    +7
    "as well as the restoration of economic ties with Russia", who will allow them to ...
    "The decree on the expanded list of goods prohibited in Ukraine from Russia comes into force on February 3, the press service of the State Fiscal Service of Ukraine said." - vz
    1. stonks
      stonks 26 January 2016 20: 43
      +2
      And nowhere to go ...
      Europe, Ukrainian goods and fuck are not needed.
      Therefore, ways are sought at least somehow sell products in the Russian Federation.
  12. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 26 January 2016 19: 32
    +5
    Cripples. Why then all the time flags of the European Union or America everywhere at all meetings or quotes of American speakers on screens. Well, you have to lick it so frankly.
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  14. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 26 January 2016 19: 45
    +3
    An imitation of democracy, everything will remain in place, except for those who talked a lot, they have already been rewritten by the SBU and soon they will be "withdrawn from circulation", and "mass suicide" in the basements of the SBU awaits the birds of the gagorunov ...
  15. Taygerus
    Taygerus 26 January 2016 19: 47
    +1
    for which there are so many deaths and devastations as a result of the reservation 404
  16. BOB044
    BOB044 26 January 2016 19: 50
    +3
    There will be a special status and special control of nationalists. Everything will be, dreamers. It was necessary to think and repulse the nationalists before.
  17. hartlend
    hartlend 26 January 2016 19: 52
    +2
    It is unclear what the special status is. Apparently have not decided yet. The main thing is that the issue is being discussed.
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 26 January 2016 20: 00
      +1
      They decided to play another performance.
  18. Just me
    Just me 26 January 2016 20: 05
    0
    The ice began to move, gentlemen, jurors. The ice began to break. Not really to be trusted, but what if !?
  19. vobels
    vobels 26 January 2016 20: 06
    +1
    ".. Joe Biden noted that it is necessary to create autonomous, independent states in Ukraine that solve their own problems .." It is clear where the wind blows, and who is the author of this idea. And the goal is clear: to tear apart and quarrel with each other in order to create another huge hemorrhoids near Russia.
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 26 January 2016 20: 17
      +9
      Will the USA be called? Or just a colony of states?
  20. shelva
    shelva 26 January 2016 20: 17
    +1
    Again, the Americans were concerned about the aspirations of the people of Ukraine. As a result - to separate all and subordinate one by one. But a double edged sword.
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 26 January 2016 20: 22
      +5
      Old as the world, divide and conquer ...
      1. Altona
        Altona 26 January 2016 21: 36
        0
        Quote: Masya Masya
        Old as the world, divide and conquer ...

        -------------------
        And do not feed anyone, eat yourself ...
        1. Masya masya
          Masya masya 26 January 2016 21: 59
          +5
          "And don't feed anyone, eat it yourself ..."
          "And taking bread and giving thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, This is my body, which is given for you; this do in remembrance of Me. Likewise, the cup after supper, saying: This cup is the New Testament in My blood, which is for you are spilled "
          Eating under the covers, it’s not very ...
    2. stonks
      stonks 26 January 2016 20: 36
      +6
      This was expected - too different people with completely opposite ideologies live in different regions of Ukraine.
      There’s a map, in the comment a little higher. Approximately reflects the real situation.
      Only in the west, not only Poland, but also Hungary and Romania are waiting for the right moment to bite off oily pieces of territory from Ukraine.
      And they won’t wait for a long time - it’s not without reason that they were issuing their passports to the border population.
  21. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 26 January 2016 20: 25
    +2
    Under the current government, who will let them restore economic ties with Russia? What federalization, if now the mere mention of LDNR causes violent attacks of insanity?
    1. stonks
      stonks 26 January 2016 20: 39
      +1
      Here, according to the principle: "If the party said, the Komsomol will answer - THERE IS!" laughing
      And the party in this case is Biden.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 26 January 2016 21: 47
        +3
        Quote: stonks
        Here, according to the principle: "If the party said, the Komsomol will answer - THERE IS!" laughing
        And the party in this case is Biden.

        ah, come on! here today at BP they were foaming about Kryvyi Rih, where they elected "from Yanukovych's team" as mayor, then re-elections and Petya appointed ... and here again they demand re-elections. Madhouse! The main thing is that they urgently want to remove the Rabbit and his team. That is the question. And all at once they began to make such correct speeches. All directly "for the people." Yes, the Ukrainian parliament and Biden will lead to a heart attack.
        1. avt
          avt 26 January 2016 22: 25
          +2
          Quote: Egoza
          The main thing is that they urgently want to remove the Rabbit with his team.

          Well, they didn’t put it and it wasn’t for them to clean it.
          Quote: Egoza
          ! here today at BP they were foaming about Kryvyi Rih, where they elected "from Yanukovych's team" as mayor, then re-elections and Petya appointed ... and here again they demand re-elections. Madhouse!

          It would be necessary to make fun of LDNR and agree with Vikul WHILE FOR GOOD, well, in terms of the implementation of Ukrainian legislation on the destruction of Soviet symbols - to remove the Donetsk Kryvyi Rih Republic from the capital back from Ukraine ..... in Kharkov laughing Which Artem headed and which he merged, on the rights of the FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF THE AGREEMENT, Lenin in the Ukrainian SSR and Lazar Moiseevich Kaganovich made Ukrainization work, which Stalin abolished in 1933. That would have combed the junta at Kiev! laughing
  22. stonks
    stonks 26 January 2016 20: 28
    +5
    Kharkiv city council deputy Alexei Perepelitsa said at the forum: “US Vice President Joe Biden noted that Ukraine needs to create autonomous, independent states that solve their own problems, which define their own educational system, the government within the framework of a unified Constitution. I can say with confidence that this is the right course. ”


    Interesting ...
    Remember one of the reasons for the outbreak of war in the Donbass? This is a reluctance to provide autonomy to Donbass IN THE STRUCTURE OF UKRAINE, a categorical reluctance to violate the principle of unitarity of Ukraine. And - WAR! ...
    And now Biden (America!) Demands to refuse it?
    What is called - jumped.
    I wonder how Poroshenko will explain the need to divide Ukraine into "states" to those who brought him to power on the Maidan? :-)
    1. Altona
      Altona 26 January 2016 21: 39
      +1
      Quote: stonks
      I wonder how Poroshenko will explain the need to divide Ukraine into "states" to those who brought him to power on the Maidan? :-)

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      What is unicellular to explain? He will say that everything will be like in the states. Ukraine will be divided into states ...))) 0
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 26 January 2016 22: 49
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        What is unicellular to explain

        Today, on 26 of January 2016 of the year, it became known that the Verkhovna Rada will not consider amendments to the Constitution providing for the main point of Minsk-2 - constitutional reform and decentralization. Because: a) 51 people's deputy appealed to the COP with a request to clarify what is "the next next session of the Verkhovna Rada" (formal reason for transfer); b) there are no 300 required votes in the Rada (genuine reason). And formally, this is a disruption of the “Minsk Agreements-2” by the Ukrainian side. If other negotiators disagree with the arguments of Kiev, then a new war is possible.
  23. Orionvit
    Orionvit 26 January 2016 20: 43
    +1
    Quote: rotor
    Americans, unlike Ukrainians, do not see anything wrong with federalism, in the United States this is normal.

    Only in the USA, in addition to local laws, are there federal laws that often contradict local laws, but are binding on them. And there is such a structure as the FBI, which also spit on local laws, and does what it wants under the jurisdiction of phishington.
  24. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 26 January 2016 20: 58
    +1
    what nafig the general system has no order in the country
  25. Sinecote
    Sinecote 26 January 2016 21: 19
    0
    The forum was attended by public figures, political scientists and deputies from the Kharkiv region.
    Now, if Yatsenyuk or Poroshenko were on the forum, then we could count on some kind of result. And so ... In Kiev, they are not interested. The junta will not agree to their terms. They do not care about the desire of people, on the statement of Joe Biden. Poroshenko did not stop either against the ban on phosphorus bombs, nor before the Minsk agreements. What will prevent him from doing the same now.
  26. Mikhalych 70
    Mikhalych 70 26 January 2016 21: 44
    0
    Biden, there is a light in the window!
    For locals - an iron argument in a dispute with Kiev. How did our former ambassador to Ukraine say there? "We wanted the best, did it work out as always?" Directly, about the content of the article.
  27. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 January 2016 22: 42
    +1
    Potroshenko and Rada cannot be taken seriously, the matter is about the complete collapse of Ukraine. Without industry, there is no state. Even schoolchildren know this. How many enterprises were killed, the inhabitants of Ukraine know this. It is not necessary to discuss a special status, it is necessary to discuss how to survive in these conditions at all, and to flee this madhouse, along with land, factories and people, and who will be against, under the caterpillars, they have the benefit.
  28. CKORPII
    CKORPII 26 January 2016 23: 27
    0
    Have you noticed in the photo that the young shaved skulls are split?
  29. Alfizik
    Alfizik 26 January 2016 23: 33
    +1
    Kharkovites should say thanks not to Biden, but to Crimea and Donbass.
  30. sergant67
    sergant67 27 January 2016 00: 17
    0
    Oleksiy Perepelitsa stated at the forum: “US Vice President Joe Biden noted that in Ukraine it is necessary to create autonomous, independent states that solve their own problems, which determine their own educational system, government within the framework of a unified Constitution. I can say with confidence that this is the right course. ”

    all life, the Anglo-Saxons ruled on the principle of divide and rule ... If this deputy is not a moron, then definitely paid ....
  31. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 27 January 2016 00: 28
    +1
    Strange news. It is strange that this forum was allowed in Kiev; there is only a mention of "undue pressure", but the forum is not dispersed? Cui podest, as they say?
    Kharkov and everyone who is lucky to get to Slobozhanshchina get a chance to survive, this is clear.

    And with regard to the interests of others, such considerations:
    Kiev in the case of the project will be able to:
    1. Report on the start of the decentralization process that is required of it under the Minsk Agreements, and will claim to be "Restoring full control of the state border by the Ukrainian government in the entire conflict zone", although this is due to the resolution of issues with the DPR and LPR, elections and etc.;
    2. In the framework of the "restoration of economic ties with Russia", under preferential conditions, to drive us European re-export, as it were, not from Ukraine, but from Slobozhanshchina.
    For this, the naturlich, a 100% reliable manager, for example, from the SGA, or the EU, will be planted in the region, if only to ensure that Kharkov strategic plants "cooperate correctly."

    States and other curators can:
    1. Collect applause: they did it! Settled! Despite the evil Putin! Forced the Russian Federation to work with non-stop against the will of the Russian Federation! They lifted the blockade on young democracy, well, etc., the elections are on the nose!
    The fact that this will not give anything non-stop will be revealed later, and there - "either the shah or the donkey ...";
    2. To get a reason for pressure on Russia, which they continue, and without having a reason; blame, for example, Russia if “it doesn’t cooperate that way”.

    We have the opportunity, in the course of the same “restoration of economic ties”, to try to stimulate Slobozhanshchina to completely separate from the non-upright one.
    ...
    Yes, fantasy and mysticism! .. But, in fact, "it's their turn."
  32. wandlitz
    wandlitz 27 January 2016 04: 54
    0
    The deputy of the Kharkov City Council Alexei Perepelitsa said at the forum: “US Vice President Joe Biden noted that in Ukraine it is necessary to create autonomous, independent states,... and reunite them with the American United ??? Did he mean this?
  33. adept666
    adept666 27 January 2016 06: 35
    0
    Something is not enough flags ... It was necessary to all two in hands and one more to another place, then it would be patriotic, then there would be a result! laughing
  34. pts-m
    pts-m 27 January 2016 09: 44
    0
    Kahly conduct their gatherings in the hope that Russia will support them and receive freebies from it. Approving their representatives on the maydaun, they really drank beer from the TV sets and talked about how their neighbor brought loot for participating in the maydaun and bought a car. And they did not recall the consequences.