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Igor Girkin-Strelkov teams up with Eduard Limonov and creates the "January 25 Committee"

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It became known that the “25 Committee of January” association was created the day before. This was announced on the website of the movement. "New Russia" Igor Strelkov (Girkin), as well as on a specially created VK page. The committee, which positions itself as an association of patriots and nationalists, in addition to Igor Strelkov himself (Girkin) included such notorious people as a writer and politician Eduard Limonov, blogger El Murid (Anatoly Nesmiyan), editor-in-chief of “Sputnik and Pogrom” Egor Prosvirnin.


Igor Girkin-Strelkov teams up with Eduard Limonov and creates the "January 25 Committee"


The creators of the “25 Committee of January” say that the unification of its initial goal is to discuss the question of what will happen in Russia after the expiration of Vladimir Putin’s term in office. From the statement of representatives committeewhich, they themselves declare, was named after the date of its formation:

We, being of different political views, red, white and representatives of newer political views, turned out to be united in the fact that:

We need to first save the country within the borders of the Russian Federation, to prevent its collapse (as in 1991). And in the future - to pursue a policy on the reunification of the Russian people in one state. At the same time, the Russians for us are (as before 1917) the trinity of Great Russians, Little Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians.
We need the equality of the Russian people with all other nations (we are not satisfied with the privileges for small ethnocracies in the Russian Federation).

The state of the reunited Russian people should be fair, sovereign in all respects, developed scientifically, industrially and agrarianly. That would require not a liberal monetarist policy.

A strong central authority must be combined with a strong local government. This ensures the state-forming role of the majority (and this is the Russians), conditions for separatism disappear.

Our position on the current government: neutrality.


In this case, the creators of the "Committee 25 January" claim that the modern Russian government "is sick and engaged in self-destruction, ... turning into a walking dead." It is also noted that "belolentochniki" are not their allies. Strelkov-Girkin, Limonov, Prosvirnin and other members of the newly-formed committee declare themselves to be a "third force" that aims at no less than "saving the country" and "getting rid of dead-end branches of evolution."

What more representatives of the new political committee: the rating or anti-rating - a separate issue.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 26 January 2016 19: 01
    0
    Yes, Igor Ivanovich, have come. No.
    1. makst83
      makst83 26 January 2016 19: 02
      +8
      a cheerful company gathered (people - weathercocks), Girkin, Tolya Nesmiyan and Yegorushka Prosvirin, but what did it forget, dear Eduard Limonov? request
      Admirers of the talents of Nesmiyan and Girkin will go mad, but I'm not offended! wink
      1. Inok10
        Inok10 26 January 2016 19: 14
        21
        Quote: makst83
        a cheerful company gathered (people - weathercocks), Girkin, Tolya Nesmiyan and Yegorushka Prosvirin, but what did it forget, dear Eduard Limonov? request
        Admirers of the talents of Nesmiyan and Girkin will go mad, but I'm not offended! wink

        ... yes, it’s not a matter of personal sympathies .. they voiced noble and high goals and objectives .. that's just by what means, with a difference of views, they will achieve this .. for some reason I remembered an old proverb: .. the road to hell .. hi
        1. 34 region
          34 region 26 January 2016 19: 43
          80
          Monk10! 19.14. They will probably register as a party, go to elections like mountains and state councils. They will vote for the adoption of the laws that they think are right. What is wrong with that? We are breaking the spears in VO proving our point. What's the point? Is there a result? One boltology. Expressed to each other their wishes and in lyuli. Or is there an opinion that Strelkov with a gun at the ready will take the Kremlin? There are only demagogues !? And ourselves, the better? Are we happy with everything today? Or have we created our organization and are promoting our ideas? hi
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 26 January 2016 23: 27
            +5
            Quote: Region 34
            Are we happy with everything today?


            In my opinion, this is the main question today, and I think the answer to it is 95% - no. And mainly in the economic, or rather financial terms, and in terms of employment. We survive the rest, and it happened worse.
          2. Sirocco
            Sirocco 27 January 2016 03: 59
            +1
            Quote: Region 34
            We are breaking the spears in VO proving our point. What's the point? Is there a result? One boltology.

            I think there is, so to speak, a social survey on-line.
            What people breathe, what they think, and what, most importantly, they expect from the authorities.
            1. varov14
              varov14 27 January 2016 10: 38
              +3
              And that, someone listened, began to act, some talkers. A couple of days ago, the public popular front happened to watch on TV. In the best traditions of my youth, Straight Leonid Ilyich was resurrected, glorification in the eyes, washed bones in the kitchen, but now you understand that he lived in the golden age. For 15 years, the dog has been down the drain, but the eyelid is also golden (though it’s already on the pipe), - by analogy to the next collapse. And the guarantor seems to want to fade, he did the thing.
          3. just exp
            just exp 27 January 2016 07: 59
            +2
            and where did you get the idea that they will defend your interests and the interests of the people?
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 26 January 2016 20: 27
          +3
          Quote: Inok10
          . that's just what means with a difference of views they will achieve this.
          1. Olkass
            Olkass 26 January 2016 20: 58
            -12 qualifying.
            Swan. Doggy style. Pike
            Classic!!!
        3. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 30 January 2016 00: 29
          +1
          Quote: Inok10
          yes, it’s not a matter of personal sympathies .. they voiced noble and high goals and objectives .. that's just what means with a difference of views they will achieve this ..

          Yes, just everything


          Well, if in Russian, then like that!

        4. The comment was deleted.
      2. Legotian
        Legotian 26 January 2016 22: 13
        +6
        "Girkin, Yegorushka, Tolya" - such an address is a marker of an infantile, ahem, individual. Talk to your mother like that, there's no need to go online, it makes you stupid
        1. makst83
          makst83 27 January 2016 08: 59
          +3
          Oh how !? Is Girkin’s surname not Girkin? Egorushka .... you look at who is friends and how friends, read his posts! And about Tolya .... why not Tolya, because it is diminutively affectionate from Anatoly, so what am I wrong about?
          Talk to your mom like that, there’s nothing to go online, he’s getting dull from you
          - this is an indicator of your mental development, just for the word "mother" I would hit you in the place where your face is, but I'm afraid to get dirty, because there you have the place where they sit!
          Py. Sy.1 The Internet is already full of stupidity and ignorance, so you supplement it with your comment too!
          Py. Sy.2 If you think that you are right, but I am not, then - "The truth should be served as a coat is served, and not thrown in the face, like a wet towel." Mark Twain (c)
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 27 January 2016 09: 29
            +1
            "The truth should be served the way a coat is served, not thrown in the face like a wet towel." Mark Twain (c)

            Thank you, I have not met such a statement before.
            What, you say, is capacious, worthy, on the topic. Here are just 16 "for" confusing. Although, on the other hand, not so much.
          2. Grandfather Luka
            Grandfather Luka 27 January 2016 14: 46
            +1
            About the coat it is beautifully said, although it is debatable, not everyone is ready to accept this coat, it usually shakes. More often the truth is in the form of a club, and the bruises left after acquaintance with this subject make you think.
            1. Aleksandr Tot
              Aleksandr Tot 27 January 2016 21: 28
              0
              Hi Sly Grandfather.
              Interestingly, the writers of the description and comments DIFFICULT themselves by expanding the information base?
              The prefrontal zone of their brain stands between information and hallucination.
              "the bruises left after acquaintance with this subject make you think." - Grandfather, do you really believe in "make you think" ?. My daughter often scratched the bruised spot for the first time, thought again. This is so, according to parenting experience.
              Your beads are very small and dim. It will not be a guide to changing anchors. Alas.
              1. Grandfather Luka
                Grandfather Luka 28 January 2016 06: 05
                +1
                Hello! Beads, which is already there, and I'm not preoccupied with messianism. And nobody canceled reactive thinking, if we are not talking about the most primitive, Ukrainians, for example, broad. Although there is a much more complicated pathology. But that's another story.
                1. Aleksandr Tot
                  Aleksandr Tot 29 January 2016 22: 27
                  +1
                  I envy you for the good. I’m not that I’m preoccupied with messianism, but I have USSR leaven. Do not tear and throw, but there is a desire for messianism. Sinful.
                  As for the pathology, the Ukrainians probably have not so much a pathology as an induced hallucination. This equals the methods of Milton Erickson or, almost sadistic methods, which Putin does.
                  Good luck.
      3. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 26 January 2016 22: 35
        10
        Quote: makst83
        a cheerful company gathered (people - weathercocks), Girkin, Tolya Nesmiyan and Yegorushka Prosvirin, but what did it forget, dear Eduard Limonov?

        You want, but I, both Limonov and Girkin respect! I don’t know the rest.
        But if these two are united, then I am with them. I have been waiting for this for a long time. smile
        1. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 27 January 2016 01: 05
          +2
          By the way, I recommend the original: http://novorossia.pro/25yanvarya/1538-sovet-25-yanvarya.html
          There on the word neutrality doesn't end there. It’s just that for some reason they didn’t finish writing on VO ... wink
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 27 January 2016 10: 13
            +6
            The position regarding the current government is neutrality. The current government is sick and preoccupied with self-destruction. We do not intend to impose on her as assistants.


            Who will dispute what is marked in red?

            I agree with this conclusion. Liberal power will lead us to the abyss. Only chatter and unwillingness to do the real thing. If only what they do is not their real task. Russia needs change to move forward towards prosperity and progress.
            1. varov14
              varov14 27 January 2016 10: 49
              -1
              "The current government is sick and busy with self-destruction." --- Personally, I do not care what the current government is doing - self-destruction, self-torture, self-satisfaction, the main thing is it drags the country into a hole, so there is no neutrality, only discrediting. It's time to change iPhones.
              1. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 18: 04
                0
                Quote: varov14
                IPhone time to change

                Quote: varov14
                Personally, I do not care

                No matter, then not flicker. Change your iPhone.
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 26 January 2016 19: 05
      +4
      Goodbye Igor Strelkov (from Slavyansk) We will remember you! ...
      Hello Girkin .... am
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 26 January 2016 19: 06
        10
        which is on the pictures. Fat Natsik generally delivers.

        And I at one time really believed in Girkin. So it happens ... Here it is the Russian spring, through the Natsik in the background.

        Nesmiyan and Yegorushka Prosvirin are two victims of the totalitarian regime, for me as a savchenko in fact. Less lemons now, but the company is hellish yes

        Here he is the guardian of the Russian nation. The conscience of the nation is embodied in this character as I understand it

        This is hell. Total we have: for me, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, Kasparov, Limonov, and this one in the photo are worried



        Something went wrong somewhere

        1. Legotian
          Legotian 26 January 2016 22: 16
          +1
          As I had a conversation with one Ukrainian. He writes in his volapuk in the Russian-speaking community. I tell him - write in Russian, dear man. He told me - oh, you natsyk! 111

          So here I am for what. They like to smear with Nazism, but only without arguments and weakly, they merge for two times. As a rule, paid pro-Kremlin provocateurs.

          Oh yes, they forgot to add that Prosvirnin is FAT. To fit a completely marginal line
          1. ArcanAG
            ArcanAG 27 January 2016 07: 11
            +3
            Read "The Day of Vengeance" by Prosvirnin. He wrote everything to himself.
        2. Avantageur
          Avantageur 27 January 2016 00: 23
          +2
          Quote: c-Petrov
          Fat Natsik generally delivers.

        3. avva2012
          avva2012 27 January 2016 04: 59
          0
          Quote: c-Petrov Nesmiyan and Yegorushka Prosvirin are two victims of the totalitarian regime, for me as a savchenko in fact. Less lemons now, but the company is hellish yes. Here he is the guardian of the Russian nation. The conscience of the nation is embodied in this character as I understand it

          "I form the consciousness of people. And their consciousness forms their actions. And their actions are the surrounding reality. The real result is that the first Russian people appeared in the world. With the Russian consciousness, the Russian perception of the world. One fine moment they will accumulate a critical mass. There is an interesting study about the dissemination of ideas - when the number of carriers of an idea in society becomes more than 10%, they begin to irreversibly change the reality around them. This work on “recruiting” ten percent is very difficult and dreary. " This is the kind of nonsense that the guardian of the Russian world writes. About strap-ons, I generally keep quiet. As they say, beyond.
          1. varov14
            varov14 27 January 2016 11: 00
            +1
            As the method is written correctly, the goal is driven into the head - the stone wears away water.
      2. alone
        alone 27 January 2016 20: 28
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Goodbye Igor Strelkov (from Slavyansk) We will remember you! ...
        Hello Girkin ....

        Didn’t you Vitaly swear to him like an icon a year ago? And you didn’t think that suddenly he was right? This is politics.
        1. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 18: 09
          +1
          Quote: lonely
          Didn’t You Vitaly swore to him like an icon

          "lonely" You are not alone in the opinion that Meehan is not of the teachable world. Rather, he is from the world of "agents of influence."
    3. The black
      The black 26 January 2016 19: 07
      +3
      I agree. Girkin did something wrong. Unite edichkoy? ...this is too much..
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 26 January 2016 20: 01
        -3
        This is how, from the hero of Donbass, it smoothly turns into a petty "politician", in the company of clowns, traitors, and of course, ediches. I don’t know, the idea may appeal to most Russians, but with such an environment.
        1. Oorfene Deuce
          Oorfene Deuce 26 January 2016 20: 18
          18
          Quote: Orionvit
          in the company of clowns, traitors

          Kalashnikov also recorded in the traitors? Hmm ...
        2. arane
          arane 26 January 2016 21: 50
          +3
          Quote: Orionvit
          This is how, from the hero of Donbass, it smoothly turns into a petty "politician", in the company of clowns, traitors, and of course, ediches. I don’t know, the idea may appeal to most Russians, but with such an environment.


          What the fuck idea. Their program is the right path to the civil war in Russia.
          If the clowns, led by Natsik Limonov, do not understand this, then Girkin must understand. Did you want to steer?
          1. Sergey S.
            Sergey S. 27 January 2016 03: 30
            +8
            Quote: arane
            If the clowns, led by Natsik Limonov, do not understand this, then Girkin must understand. Did you want to steer?

            Too primitive and unfair in the current state.

            There are fewer nationalists of lemons than they write about him.
            Limonov is a kind of leftist - on a whim or without political theory ... not a communist. not a socialist, but .. Limonov.
            This is his strength and weakness. Strength - he is extremely independent and free, and can ... blurt out the truth-uterus.
            Weakness - long-term political prospects - none.
            Limonov is a sincere and rather strong, self-igniting revolutionary with a thirst for action.
            1. Turkir
              Turkir 28 January 2016 13: 59
              +1
              You want to say that honest people don’t get politics?
              Perhaps I agree with your opinion.
              But politicians make full use of the ideas and views of decent people.
        3. Turkir
          Turkir 26 January 2016 22: 36
          10
          I don’t think that Strelkov has changed.
          Rather, it changed your opinion of him.
        4. varov14
          varov14 27 January 2016 11: 10
          -4
          And you do not find that from a petty "politician", in addition and not known by anyone, and even the bearer of other people's ideas, HE was born here.
          1. Aleksandr Tot
            Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 18: 13
            0
            Quote: varov14
            no one knows

            Quote: varov14
            the carrier of other people's ideas

            varov14, You really are very stupid. In vain you get paid.
        5. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 22: 05
          0
          Quote: Orionvit
          the idea can and impresses most Russians

          Whose will you be? Change the flag to star stripe.
      2. lukke
        lukke 26 January 2016 22: 26
        22
        Unite edichkoy?
        I am not a fan of the work of Eduard Limonov (I know nothing about him), I don’t know even more of his watered. program, BUT I know that during the war in the Balkans he was personally there and helped the Serbs as much as he could, but what did you do at that time?
    4. Asadullah
      Asadullah 26 January 2016 19: 12
      0
      Yes, Igor Ivanovich, have come


      laughing It was Nesmiyan who took him into circulation. By the way, Nesmiyan resembles an agent of influence, who failed the task, from which the x-th is feverishly engaged in order to portray the need.
    5. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 26 January 2016 19: 12
      +1
      N, in Russian history this has already happened .. Octabrists, Black Hundreds, etc. .. People have different views on patriotism. Hello, followers of the murderer Stolypin ..
    6. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 January 2016 19: 21
      14
      Interestingly, so many minuses were stuck to those who, to put it mildly, were surprised by such a passage, but not a single comment was in defense, what would it be? what
      1. Asadullah
        Asadullah 26 January 2016 20: 50
        17
        but not a single defense comment, why would it?


        This is a matter of personal attitude to power. That is, anyone patriotic with a stretch, but against the authorities, is good. In fact, real opposition is necessary. But this is another clown show. Personally, I see the real opposition in the Communist Party, but it should be updated in the leadership. For example, a person like Alferov instead of Zyuganov. The opposition should be smart and inspire confidence that if anything, they won’t do worse.
        1. Tambov Wolf
          Tambov Wolf 26 January 2016 21: 55
          24
          I’ll give you a comment. If white, red, monarchists, national bolsheviks, just nationalists and other patriotic forces begin to unite, then it means finally that the country has reached a bifurcation point due to weak and I’m not afraid to say the external governance of our country, in which liberal the board destroyed industry, education, the army, medicine and other industries, where a handful of Abramovich and Rotenberg mowed down the country and people, appropriating all their money, where people began to be considered blds, where thieves and swindlers pro-governmental Kumyovs dragged away a country where the country has no responsibility for the crimes of large wallets and senior dignitaries, where the people should survive instead of creating, and the authorities themselves do this by spitting on the people. But the stated provisions of the new movement are just the same, that you all write in your comments every time. Why did the universal howl rise? And this is the howl of liberals and Abramovich for fear that soon you will have to bear responsibility for what you have done. to that.
          1. luxprofi
            luxprofi 26 January 2016 22: 20
            +7
            ... "If White, Red, Monarchists, National Bolsheviks, just nationalists and other patriotic forces begin to unite ..."
            All of the above are patriots? Prosvirnin too?

            Neo-Nazi-Vlasovist Yegor Prosvirnin, in an interview with Ksenia Sobchak on the Dozhd TV channel, stated the following:
            “Strelkov,” says Prosvirnin, “is a monarchist.” EU
            whether he would have been given the opportunity to rebuild Russia, we
            would be a constitutional monarchy.
            - And who would be a monarch? - Sobchak asks.
            - Like who? Michael of Kent
            “And if Michael of Kent doesn't want to go to the kingdom?”
            - We, Ksenia, will gather a delegation, we will go
            to London, kneel before him and crawl,
            and call him to the kingdom. According to the old Russian tradition.
            I'm completely serious.
            "" June 22 is celebrated as the Day of Remembrance and Mourning. I don’t think this is a day of memory and sorrow. This is a DAY OF VENGEANCE ... On June 22, 1941, White Europe returned to Russia ... "Prosvirnin.
            In 1999, Boris Yordan established the Fund for Assistance to the Cadet Corps named after his grandfather Alexei Yordan, who fought in parts of the Wehrmacht. One of the donors of this fund is Sputnik and Pogrom Prosvirnina.
            Still need to write something about the "patriots"?
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 26 January 2016 23: 18
              +5
              Quote: luxprofi
              Still need to write something about the "patriots"?

              Well .. if such a booze - go for the rest too! Open our eyes wassat
              Somehow .. easily you, by "exposing" one Prosvirnin, send everyone else to the ranks of "national traitors"!
              Personally, it seems to me that these citizens united so as not to be "buried" one by one. And if they "do not pretend to be a political struggle" - this means that they, with such a difference in views, were able to come to an agreement among themselves - which many acting politicians cannot always boast of! wink
              PS Infa yours would be more interesting, being provided with links to sources. I’m not a minus, but I won’t be surprised if there will be a dump near your rating laughing
              1. Shadowcat
                Shadowcat 27 January 2016 02: 26
                -1
                You know, the Bolsheviks also agreed at first, but according to the results, they realized that he should go to the south, it’s better to pull the strap themselves.

                Girkin-Strelkov, I don’t know, I was not near Slavyansk, but as for me there is a lot of PR, little work. And considering how he gives our special equipment in an interview in the spirit of Grebenshchikov’s song (It’s a pity she didn’t come to help), if he were to be an agent of the Kremlin, I would unscrew him as his guide. And in the end, one who lies once, lies two.

                Limonov ... this is generally a wonderful miracle - for some reason, he reminds me of Hitler with his program, and God forbid to give him power, he will arrange for us the Nazi program of the 35-45th with a not-so-excellent ending and an excellent spot on the country's reputation. More precisely, what will remain of it.
              2. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 31 January 2016 00: 03
                0
                Quote: avia1991
                Well ... if such a booze

                Seen in a penchant for "times such a booze."
                And in passing, as it were, avionics on a light wing with emoticons of easy virtue. Do not get clever with requests for links. Links are a camouflage thing.
                Like it's not my fault. Itself appeared in the form of a fact.
                Avionic, you are not at all original in the ORIGINALITY of references to nonsense.
                In fact, on your PS Infa your laughter * vnaya and your smirking smiles next to Napoleon too cf * it.
                Quote: avia1991
                I’m not a minus, but I won’t be surprised if there will be a dump near your rating

                I do not even doubt it.
              3. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 18: 28
                0
                Quote: avia1991
                Well ... if such a booze

                avia1991 yes how much can you stick into a topic in a drunken frenzy !?
                Quote: avia1991
                It seems to me personally

                When you "give up", read the textbooks on the Russian language or be baptized.
                Quote: avia1991
                Infa yours would be more interesting, being provided with links to sources.

                You will need to use links and sources to understand. Moreover, to understand not only your history, but also to "walk in moccasins" of your opponent.
                I do not believe that you shoe moccasins are not fashionable (not affordable) for you.
          2. ArcanAG
            ArcanAG 27 January 2016 07: 16
            -2
            If white, red, monarchists, national bolsheviks, simply nationalists and other patriotic forces begin to unite

            You forgot to add fascists to your list. Or are they like "other patriotic forces"are marked?

            In Ukraine, in front of the Maidan, a variety of political forces united against the thieves' power. With a known result.
        2. avva2012
          avva2012 27 January 2016 05: 23
          +1
          Quote: Asadullah
          Personally, I see the real opposition in the Communist Party, but it should be updated in the leadership. For example, a person like Alferov instead of Zyuganov. The opposition should be smart and inspire confidence that if anything, they won’t do worse.

          Unfortunately, you have no influence on politics, and so, I would vote for you. The Communists really would be the real opposition. That's just to interfere. Looking at the Communist Party, there is a feeling of deja vu from the Communist Party of the 80's. Zyuganov, still grow eyebrows, and correct diction.
        3. cap
          cap 27 January 2016 06: 21
          +1
          Quote: Asadullah
          The opposition should be smart and inspire confidence that if anything, they won’t do worse.

          The temperature at which the liquid boils is called the boiling point.

          The boiling point depends on the pressure exerted on the free surface of the liquid. This is explained by the temperature dependence of the saturated vapor pressure. The vapor bubble rises while the saturated vapor pressure inside it slightly exceeds the pressure in the liquid, which is the sum of the external pressure and the hydrostatic pressure of the liquid column.
          Here it’s all about boiling. hi... "But this is another clown show" (+)
      2. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 26 January 2016 20: 55
        +6
        You see, it is necessary to protect people who need this protection .. Here is something like the "Union of Sword and Plowshare" ... Yes, the goals are good .. But they have no FAITH, their actions look more like a provocation ..
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Interestingly, so many minuses were stuck to those who, to put it mildly, were surprised by such a passage, but not a single comment was in defense, what would it be? what
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 26 January 2016 22: 48
          10
          Quote: dmi.pris
          .Yes, good goals .. But they have NO FAITH

          And who is there? .. And whose actions do you think deserve more respect?
          I will not "break lances" now - we need to figure it out, first of all, how are they going to achieve something while maintaining "neutrality to the current government" - if they do not intend to become a political force, WHO will be engaged in IDEOLOGY in this committee? Because, without having the first or the second - or both - it is difficult to achieve "the unification of the Russian people."
          ... I must say, I personally like this phrase:
          We need equality of the Russian people with all other peoples (we are not satisfied with privileges for small ethnocracies in the Russian Federation).
          I myself would have expressed it even harder. For these privileges really have a place to be, and the only people in Russia (!) Who are not allowed to CATEGORALLY defend their identity are Russians. Although from the high stands they shout that "we are all equal"!
          And this:
          A strong central authority should be combined with a strong local government. This ensures the state-forming role of the majority (and these are Russians), the conditions for separatism disappear
          in fact, a response to Putin's attack on Lenin, who allegedly "planted an atomic bomb under Russian statehood": if you want to avoid this, Mr. President - rely on the national majority! No need to flirt with everyone else, to the detriment of the Russians! If we talk about equality - so let EVERYONE be equal! And that in the West they will start yelling about "trampling on democratic freedoms" ... wassat Yes, no-e - they will not start: they are now sipping their "freedoms" with a full spoon, thanks to the refugees - they just do not choke yet! But not far from that either.
      3. ASK505
        ASK505 26 January 2016 21: 32
        +7
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Interestingly, so many minuses were stuck to those who, to put it mildly, were surprised by such a passage, but not a single comment was in defense, what would it be?


        More recently, the mountain stood for Girkin. And how many copies were broken by his supporters in the heated debate of the forum? Where are they?
      4. Wheel
        Wheel 26 January 2016 21: 33
        +1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Interestingly, so many minuses were stuck to those who, to put it mildly, were surprised by such a passage, but not a single comment was in defense, what would it be?

        What protection?
        Who?
        This union shows either an absolute "crisis of the genre" in the ranks of all the forces represented, or the complete hopelessness of the situation.
        In two words: insanity grew stronger!
      5. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 26 January 2016 22: 21
        +6
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Interestingly, so many minuses were stuck to those who, to put it mildly, were surprised by such a passage, but not a single comment was in defense, what would it be?

        Interesting,....
        As an option - Perhaps, in contrast to the liberal pro-Western opposition of the belolentochniks, which discredited itself by links with Western sponsors, a pro-Russian opposition is being created. When the "financiers" surface, we will know whose mill this newborn opposition will pour water.
        Politics and finance are inextricably linked.
        We will see, but for now ....
      6. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 27 January 2016 21: 56
        0
        And here I am, covered with minuses.
        You have the opportunity to satisfy your curiosity by reading my comments in connection and in response.
    7. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 26 January 2016 19: 48
      15
      Shooters in politics are zero and they use it in the dark, everyone who is not lazy and those who have forgotten. He listens to people, he himself does not understand where they lie to him, and where they tell the truth. Honestly, I feel very sorry for him.
      And what is this position "we are not against Putin, but the government is destroying Russia" or "there will be a Maidan, we will not go to it" ???
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 January 2016 20: 01
        -1
        And if they start something - a rebellion or something else - they will immediately hide everyone for a long time.
      2. vlade99
        vlade99 26 January 2016 22: 03
        +8
        Quote: Sith Lord
        but power destroys Russia

        Is this not true? Aren't the liberals in power brought us to the almost complete destruction of the economy, education, science?
      3. Legotian
        Legotian 26 January 2016 22: 18
        +8
        Delightful analytics about stupid Strelkov. I talked with him and shook my hand, a person is not stupid and not a dreamer, but a purely practitioner and pragmatist. It is not necessary to judge people scorched by the fire of war, defenders of the Russian people
        1. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 18: 34
          0
          Quote: Legotian
          Delightful analytics about stupid Strelkov

          Legotian, that's really true - "delightful". Drank narcissism from the couch!
      4. Avantageur
        Avantageur 26 January 2016 23: 52
        -3
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Shooters in politics are zero and they use it in the dark, everyone who is not lazy and those who have forgotten. He listens to people, he himself does not understand where they lie to him, and where they tell the truth.

        Shooters competent strategist - though a little shell-shocked. In principle, this can then be referred to ... Well, when they accept ...
        1. EvgNik
          EvgNik 27 January 2016 06: 49
          -6
          Quote: Avantageur
          Shooters competent strategist - though a little shell-shocked

          They all gathered there - a little shell-shocked. There is no opposition - so you need to create. So they collected all the garbage, trying to change something in Russia. Only, I think, this is another futile attempt.
          1. tomket
            tomket 27 January 2016 10: 28
            +2
            Quote: EvgNik
            and collected all the garbage, trying to change something in Russia. Only, I think, this is another futile attempt.

            Scum in power, scum below against power, scum everywhere?
          2. Avantageur
            Avantageur 27 January 2016 16: 03
            -4
            Quote: EvgNik
            Quote: Avantageur
            Shooters competent strategist - though a little shell-shocked

            They all gathered there - a little shell-shocked. There is no opposition - so you need to create. So they collected all the garbage, trying to change something in Russia. Only, I think, this is another futile attempt.

            Of course, I don’t know about all of them, but the fact that half of these quarters are neo-Nazis of Jewish origin is a well-known fact. On YouTube, I repeatedly had to observe the "oil paintings" of this bunch of garbage-hamsters ...


          3. Aleksandr Tot
            Aleksandr Tot 27 January 2016 22: 09
            +1
            Dear EvgNik.
            I already know you. You are a senior citizen! Senior citizen reading a lot.
            I am sure that you respect the wife of your idol - Krupskaya.
            I bring her opinion - the value is not in many books, but in the right books, their correct understanding, and correct application.
            In other words, not many knowledge is valor. Age and regalia are not indulgence from senility.
      5. tomket
        tomket 27 January 2016 00: 02
        10
        Quote: Sith Lord
        And what is this position "we are not against Putin, but the government is destroying Russia" or "there will be a Maidan, we will not go to it" ???

        But does the activity of Gref, Ulyukaev, Siluanov not destroy Russia ??? while the people really are not against Putin. Such are the paradoxes .....
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 27 January 2016 00: 59
          +4
          Quote: tomket
          while the people really are not against Putin. Such are the paradoxes .....

          The people, as Mikhail Delyagin put it, supports the actions of the President in foreign policy - and that is where Putin has high ratings! And if the question is formulated differently, in the light of the attitude to domestic economic steps, the rating is exactly the opposite ..
          BE ABLE TO USE STATISTICS! wassat
    8. Observer2014
      Observer2014 26 January 2016 20: 00
      23
      "Vladimir Yes, Igor Ivanovich, we got there"
      Well, can you tell me where Igor Ivanovich went to?
      You don’t know how to ruin his authority. Girkin painted at the first opportunity. Shooters he! Hero of the defense of Slavyansk! And I will be honored that we would have such a politician.
      1. garnik64
        garnik64 26 January 2016 20: 53
        0
        I didn’t understand, plus, but the number was reduced.
        1. Yura
          Yura 26 January 2016 20: 57
          +5
          Quote: garnik64
          I didn’t understand, plus, but the number was reduced.

          At the same time, the two of you put a minus, and you have already seen the overall result, this sometimes happens.
        2. Observer2014
          Observer2014 26 January 2016 21: 19
          10
          "garnik64"
          Don't take it to heart! Two years ago, because of my idea of ​​"Strelkov for the presidency" in general, the article "Advice to Igor Ivanovich Strelkov" was removed. So don't worry. And be yourself!
          1. obraztsov
            obraztsov 27 January 2016 00: 02
            +1
            It turns out not only I have such an idea. Strelkov is worried about Russia with all his heart; he is a deeply religious person, with great military experience, well-read. I would really like him to be in the lead after Putin.
            Limonov’s articles have also recently been pleasing.
            1. EvgNik
              EvgNik 27 January 2016 07: 00
              -1
              Quote: obraztsov
              Limonov’s articles have also recently been pleasing.

              I wonder if you've read "It's me, Eddie"? After this book for me, the writer Limonov ended without beginning. And as a politician - there is no such thing. There is a gang of Natsiks claiming to be something.
              1. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 27 January 2016 22: 16
                0
                Dear EvgNik.
                In addition to ticketing, you should read science.
                But Limonov is not for you to judge. Ah Moska she know ...
                However, for VO is suitable.
                1. avia1991
                  avia1991 28 January 2016 00: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: Aleksandr Tot
                  In addition to ticketing, you should read science.

                  Dear Alexander, if such a booze has gone .. "BELLETRISTIKA" is spelled correctly. This is the question of "the correct understanding of books, and the correct application." If we are to recommend scientific literature, then the Russian language should be at the forefront. And it turns out that they themselves are illiterate - and so we raise children! And then we try to ask something else from them.
                  Quote: Aleksandr Tot
                  And it’s not for you to judge Limonov.

                  And why, actually? Lemons publishes his books not for the elite - for all comers. And express your opinion about the book - Everyone’s Right (who read, of course). Just as in VO everyone is free to express their point of view!
                  I am not happy with the literary pearls of Limonov - but he is not trying to betray my homeland! Unlike many power holders .. hi
                  1. Aleksandr Tot
                    Aleksandr Tot 29 January 2016 23: 16
                    +1
                    Dear avia1991. Thank you for "if such a booze has gone."
                    If you position yourself as a fighter for spelling, correct your "Russian" into Russian if you are a Rusin, not a Jew.
                    Read Rusinov, not chewing gum.
                    I didn’t want to put up the acute question of the dirtied Rus and their history in the military.
                    That's just because of drunkenness and you can "respect" those who "went deep into the meaning" and "the correct use" of those who have reached the marshal's epaulettes on the VO.
                    The military review, unfortunately, does not allow the site to review military topics, but it is also complicated to erase the brains.
                    Your "Everyone's Right" is already in the throat of the whole liberalized Europe.
                    Mr. avia1991, Mr. EvgNik, let it be thoughtful for you, he threw me in a personal recommendation to dump me from VO to Echo of Moscow or where to go - Censor. This is me about your "Just like in VO, everyone is free to express their point of view!" I despise the echo of Moscow, and your client, with all his regalia, is far from the most primitive knowledge of human studies.
                    Street law warns the third - do not get into a fight. I’m talking about a saying - you don’t know ford, do not get into the water.
                    And finally - "And it turns out that they themselves are illiterate - and we raise children like that! And then we try to ask something else from them."
                    Sometimes it’s good to remember - be quiet ....
                    Sincerely. Sincerely.
        3. EvgNik
          EvgNik 27 January 2016 06: 53
          0
          Quote: garnik64
          I didn’t understand, plus, but the number was reduced.

          And rightly so. At the same time, several more people voted. The result is plus, minus - before my eyes. We all went through this.
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 26 January 2016 20: 55
        +5
        Quote: Observer2014
        Girkin painted at the first opportunity. Shooters he!

        I wrote Igor Ivanovich, you have to be careful.
        Quote: Observer2014
        Hero of the defense of Slavyansk!

        This cannot be taken away from him.
        Quote: Observer2014
        so that we have such a politician.

        But the politician is bad, alas. Politics is generally a dirty business, it is hard for dreamers in it.
        1. FREGATENKAPITAN
          FREGATENKAPITAN 26 January 2016 21: 35
          10
          Indeed ... there are (was) Strelkov ... there is Girkin now ....... In any case, Limonov is not a traitor to the Motherland .... extreme right-wing views .... but does not change the general meaning ..
          1. arane
            arane 26 January 2016 21: 58
            +3
            Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
            Indeed ... there are (was) Strelkov ... there is Girkin now ....... In any case, Limonov is not a traitor to the Motherland .... extreme right-wing views .... but does not change the general meaning ..


            Of course not a traitor. Just Natsik! Radical nationalism can probably be cultivated in a mono-ethnic state. In Russia, this will lead to a split in the state.
            The dictatorship of the titular nation? I have always believed that there should be a dictatorship of the law, in the sense that before the law everyone should be equal.
            1. Yura
              Yura 26 January 2016 22: 09
              +9
              Quote: arane
              I have always believed that there should be a dictatorship of the law, in the sense that before the law everyone should be equal.

              Exactly so, and when this happens then it will probably be easier for us all to live and Russia will be a prosperous country.
            2. avia1991
              avia1991 26 January 2016 23: 36
              +6
              Quote: arane
              I have always believed that there should be a dictatorship of the law, in the sense that before the law everyone should be equal.

              Well? They also want to achieve this!
              Have you tried to "equalize everyone before the Law"? How many times have I come across different stories that were decided in court - God forbid, a couple of times, according to the Law, everything was decided. And the rest - NOT EVERYTHING, dear man, it turns out, are equal - some are STRONGLY EQUAL to all others wassat
              1. arane
                arane 27 January 2016 00: 19
                -1
                Quote: avia1991
                Quote: arane
                I have always believed that there should be a dictatorship of the law, in the sense that before the law everyone should be equal.

                Well? They also want to achieve this!
                Have you tried to "equalize everyone before the Law"? How many times have I come across different stories that were decided in court - God forbid, a couple of times, according to the Law, everything was decided. And the rest - NOT EVERYTHING, dear man, it turns out, are equal - some are STRONGLY EQUAL to all others wassat


                Reread the article carefully again.
                What they are seeking has already been implemented in the Baltic states. Where Russians are non-citizens. They did not invent anything new.

                I mean, they will make everyone who does not fall under their concept of "Russians" as second-class people.
                1. avia1991
                  avia1991 27 January 2016 01: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: arane
                  I mean, they will make everyone who does not fall under their concept of "Russians" as second-class people.

                  You are misinterpreting their goals, Vyacheslav. the problem has been brewing for a long time, but its reasons are not at all in "Russian nationalism." See below my comment hi
                  1. Aleksandr Tot
                    Aleksandr Tot 31 January 2016 00: 22
                    +1
                    Quote: avia1991
                    See my comment below.

                    Do not try to look GURUOY.
                    You can see the difference between those who want to look, who want to be true.
              2. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 31 January 2016 00: 14
                0
                Yeah. Others cannot be taught to control themselves. It's me about
                Quote: avia1991
                EQUAL
                A fool.
              3. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 18: 43
                0
                Quote: avia1991
                nice man

                avia1991, do not humiliate the humiliation of the interlocutor and people will be drawn to you.
                Quote: avia1991
                I’ve come across different stories how many times

                The rams also push their foreheads.
            3. Suvorov
              Suvorov 27 January 2016 00: 29
              +5
              Quote: arane
              The dictatorship of the titular nation? I have always believed that there should be a dictatorship of the law, in the sense that before the law everyone should be equal.

              Since the end of the 80s of the last century and throughout the 90s, there was a breakdown of historical Russia. In the 2000s, the collapse was suspended, but the “ideology” was not created for the new ideology, so the process of “decay” was “inertia”. This inertia was supported by numerous "NCO-grant-eaters" and various agreements and conventions signed in the minutes of "Russia's weakness" by the EBN, implying the continuation of the movement along the path of "universal values." By this, our "Western friends" meant endless "tolerance", "liberalization", the rights of minorities to dictate their will to the majority and other "civilized joys". This “gradual destruction” would continue this way if the “Western partners” did not begin to “accelerate” the process. A series of “orange revolutions” began in the CIS countries (in some places unsuccessful), then they made a “face on the asphalt” (this is about an openly Nazi coup in Ukraine). Then our “woke up” and “gave the insoles a physiognomy” (this is me about the Crimea and the Donbass). In this crisis, "a new ideology" was born of Russia - the Great Russian, the great-power. It certainly implies moderate Russian nationalism (not to be confused with extreme Nazi who took power in Ukraine and the treacherous “Vlasov” in Russia who supported him). Russians as a nation have always absorbed other peoples, without violating their identity. The only thing that the Russians lack in today's multinational Russia is equal rights with other peoples. And this is not about creating privileges for the Russian people, but about eliminating privileges for small nations to the detriment of the big Russian. It is the equality of all citizens, regardless of national or social (class) affiliation, that is the guarantee of the integrity and unity of Russia. This should include the liquidation of national state formations within Russia (which give an advantage to ethnocratic classes in the distribution of finances and property), while strengthening the role of local self-government. It was on this “idea” that Igor Ivanovich teamed up with these comrades. And with whom else will they unite if the majority do not understand what the main threat to Russia is, how did they not understand it in 1989, when the collapse of the USSR began?
              1. avia1991
                avia1991 27 January 2016 01: 07
                +3
                Quote: Suvorov
                It is the equality of all citizens, regardless of national or social (class) affiliation, that is the guarantee of the integrity and unity of Russia.

                fellow What a pity - there is no applauding emoticon! lol
                True, I do not quite agree with you about
                Quote: Suvorov
                This should include the elimination of national government entities within Russia.
                Ideally, yes. But this will not be done in the nearest foreseeable - there will be "Big Trouble". But the first moment - no options are NECESSARY, and the sooner the better good
                1. Suvorov
                  Suvorov 27 January 2016 10: 52
                  +2
                  Quote: avia1991
                  Quote: Suvorov This should include the elimination of national government entities within Russia

                  Quote: avia1991
                  Ideally, yes. But in the nearest foreseeable this will not be done - there will be "Big Trouble".

                  And I did not say that it should be done tomorrow. The process will be long. Initially, it is necessary to strike a blow at the ethnocracies in the national republics, make them respect the rights of representatives of other peoples in their constituent entities, and not impose their "narrow national agenda." It is about the right to study in the native language and other cultural characteristics of local communities. All this is achieved through strengthening the role of local government. By the way, United Russia could take it as a rule: in national entities to nominate representatives of all peoples and ethnic groups living in the region, and not just "titular peoples", to positions in government bodies and legislative bodies. Gradually, notions will be formed that national problems (such as the preservation of culture, language) can be solved at the level of local self-government and there will be no need for the existence of "national subjects". What kind of policy local nationalists are trying to pursue in "national subjects" in relation to other ethnic groups we can see well in the example of "Ukrainization". And ours in Tatarstan, Bashkiria and in other regions are no better, give them free rein ...
                  1. avia1991
                    avia1991 27 January 2016 14: 55
                    0
                    Quote: Suvorov
                    By the way, United Russia could take as a rule:
                    It is high time to write off United Russia as a party to a landfill: being the “party of power,” it completely discredited itself with its anti-popular policy!
                    Individual members of EdRa, probably, should be considered separately, "each - according to his deeds", but on the whole, EdRo is, in a way, a vestige of the CPSU, politically. For it was intended, initially, for guaranteed advancement of the line of power, regardless of opposition disagreement.
                    1. Suvorov
                      Suvorov 27 January 2016 16: 57
                      0
                      Quote: avia1991
                      United Russia ", as a party, is high time to write off to a landfill: being a" party of power ", it completely discredited itself with an anti-popular policy! Individual members of the United Russia, probably, should be considered separately,“ each - according to his deeds, ”but in general, United Russia - in a way, it is a rudiment of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, in political terms, because it was originally intended to guarantee the advancement of the line of power, regardless of the opposition's disagreement.

                      The fact that EdRo looks like the Communist Party is not a secret for anyone. Moreover, let him pursue a line of strengthening the state and must have its own ideology and "personnel policy". And now local national elites, hiding behind EdRom, are pursuing their policy (often nationalist), taking advantage of the fact that EdRo does not have a clearly expressed ideology (so some general phrases about the welfare of the people, under which anything can be summed up). In general, this is more a party of officials and persons dependent on the state (state employees, pensioners, employees of state corporations and large budget contractors). But, at least, it "smacks" of at least some kind of "officialdom" (as from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, which in the classical sense of the word was not a party). Other parties look more like "private organizations" when they still develop internal party democracy and political culture. I don't vote for EdRo, but I think that such a party (for lack of a better one) is still needed.
                      1. avia1991
                        avia1991 28 January 2016 00: 44
                        0
                        Quote: Suvorov
                        at least she "smells" of at least some kind of "official"
                        "Smells" from her, Vyacheslav, Rot. It is due to the fact that it
                        Quote: Suvorov
                        more party officials and state-dependent individuals
                        - to be more precise - mainly state officials of all ranks, diluted, to give the appearance of "nationwide", by famous athletes, cultural and scientific workers - people who have earned real authority among the people. For me personally, for today, the authority of these "diluents" is in the category "it was a long time ago and not true", because, in the light of the activities of "EdRovtsev", any real patriot from this "party" must leave! So that Conscience is not dirty, and Honor is not dropped.
                        Quote: Suvorov
                        EdRo does not have a clear ideology

                        This is typical not only for EdRa - all the acting parties sin with this, because everyone has the same ideology: to break through to the power levers, and, under the guise of slogans about protecting the people's interests, to snatch their piece of the economic "pie"
                        That is, the main ideology, in the last 25 years, remains access to money. And that "party - iron and hardened in the struggle ...", armed with an Idea uniting the people, and ready to die for this Idea! ... Alas, there is no such party at all. And it cannot exist under the "free market" capitalism of the Russian model.
                      2. Aleksandr Tot
                        Aleksandr Tot 31 January 2016 01: 40
                        0
                        Quote: avia1991
                        under the "free market" capitalism of the Russian model.

                        avia1991, do you have a sample? You dropped "This is typical not only for EdRa - all acting parties sin with this." It is not necessary to export a lot of mind to g ***. Do you have anything to show in addition to "hiding behind slogans about protecting the people's interests"?
                        We already ate about the economic pie.
                    2. Aleksandr Tot
                      Aleksandr Tot 31 January 2016 01: 29
                      +1
                      I agree Suvorov. Cancer is not fish, but at least something. I hope that GDP will succeed in replacing the remaining key and not very positions of power with its SHOIGUMS.
                      It’s not so easy to summarize the degenerates of the 90s. There aren’t enough normal followers and prosecutors for a full-scale cleansing of the consequences of rampant democracy.
                  2. Aleksandr Tot
                    Aleksandr Tot 31 January 2016 00: 53
                    0
                    Quote: avia1991
                    For it was intended, initially, for guaranteed advancement of the line of power

                    Air, you are either a provocateur or a rare idiot.
                    Who can really hold power now. Certainly not Zyuganov, Zhirik. About scum like Yablokov, Kasyanovich even in a nightmare I do not want ....
                    It is convenient to be in the position "and Baba Yaga is against" - against - not for. There is nothing to be responsible for.
                    The communists have already destroyed everything "and then" did not come. The young reformers destroyed what the Bolsheviks did not put the squeeze on. You, too, are translating arrows from ... to ..., or from from now to do not understand where to "regardless of the opposition's disagreement." Conveniently. According to Popandopalovski.
                    From the 90s to the XNUMXs, Russia was privatized by the pockets, and now "smart" privatizers are broadcasting moldy formulas in the languages ​​of liberated, half-dead psychopaths. D * fuckers. Fuck *.
                  3. Aleksandr Tot
                    Aleksandr Tot 6 February 2016 23: 55
                    0
                    Well, oh my goodness.
                    If you want to be heard, try to be more objective.
                    Objectivity is not a vice, it is a hobby of lovers of democracy.
                    Valuable value is value-valued by the valued value of the evaluating appraiser.
                    Do you want to go in the moccasins of your opponents and do not annoy them with blisters?
                    How would you put in your head the understanding of the need to COMPETE, not to tear it from the threshold, but to take note of all the information. Those. if you didn’t get it right the first time, turn your cheek under the slap in the face and feel again not your opinion.
                    Quote: "United Russia", as a party, is high time to write off to a landfill. "
                    avia1991, do you have any job offers, or do you work part-time on an Internet field? Separated due to taxation or mental inclinations.
              2. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 18: 58
                0
                Quote: avia1991
                I do not quite agree with you about
                that is, you have a bad logic and with the Russian language. You already decide what matters to you on the Account, or about. If it does not fall into the account, you do not take this into account.
                Use the powerful not in the image of Ellochka, read and absorb the Russian language of the classics.
                Smileys, of course, in your case are a good help if the vocabulary is Ellochkin.
      3. luxprofi
        luxprofi 26 January 2016 23: 03
        +3
        June 22, 1941 not only the Soviet state and the council
        The Russian people, but also those Russians to whom everything Soviet was deeply alien, appealed to the same thing. Like, let's forget about the ideological differences and come forward as a united front against Hitler - this enemy of our beloved Motherland and humanity.
        Someone really forgot about the ideological differences
        siyah - Denikin, for example. But the others have not forgotten. Krasnov has not forgotten. Skin. Von Pannwitz, that SS executioner praised by Strelkov. From the book. "Strelkov and others."
    9. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 26 January 2016 20: 56
      +5
      Shooter-military is good, Girkin-politician is terrible.
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    11. luxprofi
      luxprofi 26 January 2016 22: 29
      -16 qualifying.
      Seriously, is Girkin a "hero"? Without a fight and without an order, he surrendered Kramatorsk, Druzhkovka, Slavyansk and was preparing to surrender Donetsk. Is it called heroism now? Lying about the lack of weapons, and leaving Slavyansk in a column in which there were about 20 tanks, not counting other "little things", about 200 pieces of equipment? How did Slavyansk defend itself? Was he stormed? Did they want to kill Girkin personally? Or did someone provide him with a corridor to get out of Slavyansk? Stop trying to reanimate a living corpse. Everything is known. The rotten stuff is complete. Coward and poser. No honor or dignity.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 26 January 2016 23: 55
        +9
        Quote: luxprofi
        Neither honor nor dignity.

        My dear - and you, it turns out, are PADAL. Not in the sense of "he fell," but in the same - smelly and rotten. So casually throwing insults you don't seem to know about! What are you ready to answer "for the bazaar", except for other people's rewritten phrases? Maybe you can tell us the History of Russia from .. American, for example, textbooks? Why are you sure that the affluor of the book you mentioned is writing the Truth ?!
        Quote: luxprofi
        In addition to the Arrow
        Kova successfully fought Bolotov, Mozgovoy, Bezler, Zakharchenko, Khodakovsky,
        Do you remember the chronology of the "battles"? Especially Mr. Khodakovsky - was it not he who had a hand in the memorable storming of Donetsk airport, when most of the replenishment from Russian volunteers was put in? And later, with his "special purpose battalion", he was essentially hiding in a forest plantation in an elite suburb of Donetsk? IS THIS YOUR HERO?
        In general, you catch your brain in vain - if he could read your comments, he would tear to shreds without thinking! However, there is enough evidence of his attitude to Strelkov - so you got the wrong arguments, unkind.
        1. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 19: 16
          0
          [quote = avia1991] Most gracious - and yet you, it turns out, are PA.DAL [/ quote]
          [quote = avia1991] So casually throwing insults, [/ quote]
          [quote = avia1991] enough evidence left [/ quote]
          [quote = avia1991] You got it, unkind. [/ quote]
          avia1991 Do you read yourself? I'm talking about the "Beloved" and "unfriendly" and other dump of your breach.
          I’m talking about that .- [quote = avia1991] [quote = avia1991] if he could read your comments [/ quote]
          And about "You got the grip, unfriendly" - this is worthy of VO and his marshals.
      2. tomket
        tomket 27 January 2016 00: 06
        +8
        Quote: luxprofi
        Without a fight and without an order, he passed Kramatorsk, Druzhkovka, Slavyansk and was preparing to surrender Donetsk.

        And who should give the order to Strelkov?) Was it not you?)))))
    12. luxprofi
      luxprofi 26 January 2016 23: 11
      +1
      "And what about Strelkov? Like Lebed, he has military
      servants - in the organization of defense of New Russia. He is two with a half
      the fault of the month restrained superior enemy forces under
      Slavic. But the battles went not only near Slavyansk, but also in other places of the Donetsk and Lugansk republics. In addition to the Arrow
      Kova successfully fought Bolotov, Mozgovoy, Bezler, Zakharchenko, Khodakovsky, who occupied the strategic height of Saur-Mogila.
      But the promotion was exclusively the image of Strelkova. According to
      logistics, the number of references Strelkova in the media more than
      the number of mentions of other commanders at times, and in some
      ry specific media - dozens of times. Posters were drawn.
      about "300 riflemen", memes such as "Igor Ivanovich were introduced
      sad ”, on public resources controlled by Prosvirnin
      vivid phrases Strelkova. Doesn't that remind Swan’s vibrant phrases? And the genius of the military talent of the Minister of Defense of the DPR, who unexpectedly surrendered the city without a fight, was immediately contested by the militias withdrawn from Slavyansk, accusing him of betrayal. In any case, some of them and, as we can guess, are considerable if, literally the next day, the number of Khodakovsky’s units increased from a battalion to a brigade. From Prince Strelkov and others.
    13. avia1991
      avia1991 26 January 2016 23: 30
      +4
      Quote: Observer2014
      And I consider it an honor that we would have such a politician.
      Sergei, he's not a politician! Yes - the hero of the defense of Slavyansk, yes - he confused all the cards for those who planned the uprising in Donbass "to release the brakes" .. But doesn't THIS indicate directly that he is not a politician ?!
      Moreover, I think that "not a politician" is an extremely positive title! good If you can point me (with evidence) to HONEST POLICIES - I’ll take off my hat and shut up on ... well, well - don’t hope! laughing FOR A FEW-THREE DAYS! .. Fortunately, the next business trip is short .. wink
  2. Yura
    Yura 26 January 2016 20: 11
    +7
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Yes, Igor Ivanovich, have come.

    A tale about Ivanushka the fool: ... and Princess Nesmeyana says to him: "If you dive Ivan into this cauldron of shit, you will emerge as a handsome man." Ivan went to the platform, prayed and dived. A handsome handsome man emerged, written with everything written, but ... all in shit.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 26 January 2016 20: 31
      +5
      Prosvirin long ago sticking to Strelkov, in fact, like the veil Nesmiyan.
      But why did Lemons get there? fool

      For the sake of completeness, all that is needed is Bulk and Yashin, and even Dyomushkin with Mitrokhin, then there will be a complete adish. negative
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 26 January 2016 23: 32
        0
        Quote: Sid.74
        with mitrokhin


        there already nesmyan. So liberals are present.
  3. not Russian
    not Russian 26 January 2016 20: 29
    0
    Well, as analysts. When last year I wrote that this Girkin some kind of muddy type threw me down with minuses. What this time you analyze. Incidentally, I mean 2014. Good luck.
  4. Homo
    Homo 26 January 2016 20: 44
    -2
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Yes, Igor Ivanovich, have come.

    Here's the answer to the question - Who is all the same Strelkov and for whom he is!
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  • killganoff
    killganoff 26 January 2016 19: 03
    14
    We need the equality of the Russian people with all other nations (we are not satisfied with the privileges for small ethnocracies in the Russian Federation).

    To begin with, it is necessary to legislatively introduce the term "Title nation" into the Russian Federation.
    1. not Russian
      not Russian 26 January 2016 20: 33
      +3
      And then you offer blood for genetic analysis to donate. Are you sure that then you will be the majority. So do not grind nonsense. We are all one nation and for the adversary we are all Russian
      1. Heimdall47
        Heimdall47 26 January 2016 21: 05
        -4
        You don’t need to donate blood, it’s enough to pierce the ancestors before a certain date ...
      2. arane
        arane 26 January 2016 22: 05
        +6
        Quote: non-Russian
        And then you offer blood for genetic analysis to donate. Are you sure that then you will be the majority. So do not grind nonsense. We are all one nation and for the adversary we are all Russian


        Yeah, nobody will go down to analysis, they won’t invent anything, dear.
        Everything as usual! Hachei, Jews and narrow-film to the wall. And an old song about Arias! Such a ruin, only on a much larger scale.
        1. Heimdall47
          Heimdall47 26 January 2016 22: 22
          0
          Everything as usual! Hachei, Jews and narrow-film to the wall

          Not quite understood - Do you approve or condemn? wink
          1. arane
            arane 26 January 2016 22: 28
            +2
            Quote: Heimdall47
            Everything as usual! Hachei, Jews and narrow-film to the wall

            Not quite understood - Do you approve or condemn? wink


            I'm trying to convey that this cannot be allowed in any case.
        2. arane
          arane 26 January 2016 22: 23
          13
          Quote: arane
          Quote: non-Russian
          And then you offer blood for genetic analysis to donate. Are you sure that then you will be the majority. So do not grind nonsense. We are all one nation and for the adversary we are all Russian


          Yeah, nobody will go down to analysis, they won’t invent anything, dear.
          Everything as usual! Hachei, Jews and narrow-film to the wall. And an old song about Arias! Such a ruin, only on a much larger scale.



          For all the silent minus-minders, I am writing an explanation to the above written messages.

          I have a fellow friend. We served together on a nuclear submarine giant. And he entered the blessed nineties regional branch of RNU. He walked, bursting with greatness and exclusivity of the idea of ​​Russia for Russians. Agitated for national purges. I asked: Igor, and tomorrow your classmates will put me to the wall, so what? Will you shoot?
          He says: "What are you, you are yours"
          I say that I’m mine for you, and for your accomplices a second-rate macaw, and you’ll shoot, otherwise you’ll stand by your side. He said nothing, but a week later left from there.

          Then think for yourself. We, born in Russia, non-Slavs are also people, and also love our homeland, Russia. Do not separate us ..... this is the worst thing that can be done with Russia. And this is exactly the most cherished gift of all time to the State Department

          I have the honor!
          1. Heimdall47
            Heimdall47 26 January 2016 22: 56
            +1
            I'm trying to convey that this cannot be allowed in any case.

            and for your accomplices second-rate macaw

            Now everything fell into place right away laughing Sorry for not understanding right away.
            But after all, as they used to say - "If the party needs it, then let them shoot me" Apparently this path does not lie in your soul)
          2. avia1991
            avia1991 27 January 2016 00: 48
            +5
            Quote: arane
            Then think for yourself. We, born in Russia, non-Slavs are also people, and also love our homeland, Russia.

            Vyacheslav, you write beautifully and well. So, maybe you’ll try to convey your attitude to your fellow countrymen by blood? Although I had no problems communicating with the Armenians, even when there were a lot of them, and there were few Russians.
            I write that Russians, overwhelmingly, are tolerant in their ancient nature - however, this does not mean that just anyone can humiliate our national dignity! And it turns out that everyone has the protection of the Law - except for the Russians. If you represent "small nations", you can:
            - to spit on public order (on "our" territory);
            - sneeze at our norms and rules - at the same time demanding respect for their "national characteristics";
            -to deny our religion and customs - while simultaneously demanding to reckon with our own;
            - to have, as a subject of the Federation, a republic formed on a national basis - while denying the right of a Russian person to the same identity .. etc.
            What this can, under certain circumstances, lead to - we are now seeing in "tolerant" Europe. I don’t think that you would like to see something like this started with us. So, the question of Russian identity - and its security, at the level of equality with all other peoples - really needs to be addressed. And do it at the state level! Which our authorities do not want to admit. Thank God, at the moment this is not such a "fire" problem as, for example, the need to change the economic model. But there is a problem - and no attempt to solve it is observed. And one of the effects of this is the appearance of the "Committee" described in the article ..
            1. Aleksandr Tot
              Aleksandr Tot 31 January 2016 01: 58
              0
              Quote: avia1991
              no attempt to resolve

              I read your komenty and come to the conclusion that you are a contractor. Otherwise, they would have "observed" not only their rhetoric, but also the correlation between the problems of the Rus and yours.
              I doubt that you understand where you are in the options of "changing the economic model".
          3. Heimdall47
            Heimdall47 27 January 2016 10: 55
            +1
            Then think for yourself. We, born in Russia, non-Slavs are also people, and also love our homeland, Russia. Do not separate us ...

            And the Russians, what about your problems? Russia is not an almshouse and not a hospitable home. Children of Arabs who were born in France also surely love their country. So much so that she is shaking all over. And if we take the two ratios "Russian - Armenian" and "French - Arab", then what is the fundamental difference? Faith is not the same, culture is not the same, customs are different, blood is different. Everything is obvious. We don't owe you anything, but you owe us a lot, but it turns out the other way around.
            You came to someone else's apartment, pressed the owners, and when this fact is brought to you, you begin to cry and scare you with horror stories that without us, they say, all Russia will go to dust. But if she does not go, if she does not go, she will not even notice. There is always someone to trade tangerines and persimmons.
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 27 January 2016 15: 17
              0
              I don’t put a minus, Alexander - but you are wrong! Not AT ALL - but in this particular case.
              Quote: Heimdall47
              "Russian - Armenian" and "French - Arab", what is the fundamental difference?
              just fundamental: for centuries, Arabs have been under the yoke of colonial authorities - and French, in particular! And historical memory, in such matters, can play a role!
              The Armenians did not live "under the yoke" of Russia, they made friendship and trade with us, on occasion they acted against the enemy with one front.
              Quote: Heimdall47
              Faith is wrong, the culture is not the same, the customs are different, the blood is different
              And WHAT Faith does the Armenians have? Do not remind me? .. lol
              And when you remind - and remember, at the same time, yourself - do not forget to admit that Russians and Armenians have much more in common than differences.
              And this, in fact, is about intra-Russian interethnic relations - and Armenia is not part of the Russian Federation, a problem.
              Quote: Heimdall47
              We owe you nothing, and you owe us a lot of things,
              But this generally looks like the slogan of the unforgettable "world hegemon" wink
              Quote: Heimdall47
              without "they say all of Russia will go to dust." But if she does not go, if she does not go, she will not even notice.
              That's it .. so terry nationalism and develops .. and "from the other side", including.
              Quote: Heimdall47
              Who will always find tangerines and persimmons.
              laughing YES! EXACTLY! But this warning is better addressed to Azerbaijanis - they are traders by nature!
              I understand your indignation. But words mean a lot, and the semantic load is considerable. Want to be heard - try to be more objective hi
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              2. atalef
                atalef 27 January 2016 15: 25
                +1
                Quote: avia1991
                just fundamental: for centuries, Arabs were under the yoke of colonial authorities - and French, in particular

                Turkish, the French there were very few

                Quote: avia1991
                And WHAT Faith does the Armenians have? Do not remind me? ..

                Armenian Apostolic Catholic.
                It is much further from the Orthodox than Western Catholics.
                Quote: avia1991
                And when you remind - and remember, at the same time, yourself - do not forget to admit that Russians and Armenians have much more in common than differences.

                By and large, nothing in common. except for being in the USSR

                Quote: avia1991
                YES! EXACTLY! But this warning is better addressed to Azerbaijanis - they are traders by nature!

                Well, they just hold the markets in half.
                By the way, the question is, do you know that Armenia was the only (within the USSR) republic. where only representatives of one nationality lived - Armenians (96%). Unlike Azerbaijan, where almost all nationalities lived.
                I’ll tell you a secret. there were practically no Jews in Armenia
                1. avia1991
                  avia1991 28 January 2016 01: 16
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  atale

                  laughing All the same, they decided to print neutrality, yes, Alexander?
                  Quote: atalef
                  Turkish, the French there were very few

                  Syria and Lebanon are not too few when it comes to causal relationships with today's "great migration."
                  Quote: atalef
                  Armenian Apostolic Catholic.
                  It is much further from the Orthodox than Western Catholics.
                  What do you judge on what grounds? How well are you familiar with the basic canons of Christianity?
                  In addition, the Armenian church is not the Russian Orthodox Church, of course - but it is much further from Islam than from Orthodoxy, believe me! wink
                  Quote: atalef
                  By and large, nothing in common. except for being in the USSR
                  Yes, this alone is enough! The Soviet period, all the trials and victories that have been passed and achieved within the framework of one state - is this not enough ?!
                  You - not you personally - did not have a Homeland, as such, you lived all over the world, adjusting to every place .. you find it difficult to understand the possibility of friendship between peoples in a multinational state - you simply do not have this! And with your neighbors you are always on the counter .. it's sad to live like that.
                  Quote: atalef
                  Well, they just hold the markets in half

                  Again, the question is: do you have them, in Israel, half the markets ..? Or in Russia? If "at us" - you know this otkel? lol
                  Quote: atalef
                  Armenia was the only republic in the USSR. where only representatives of one nationality lived - Armenians (96%)
                  Do you know that in Russia, as part of the USSR, the overwhelming majority were also Russians for a long time? It’s just that politics was more literate then, national minorities didn’t spread far from home, therefore there were negligible ethnic clashes. And economic integration made it possible to more evenly provide people with a standard of living, regardless of location.
                  1. Aleksandr Tot
                    Aleksandr Tot 30 January 2016 00: 16
                    0
                    "therefore, there were very few interethnic clashes."
                    Not "interethnic clashes were negligible," but there was little information. Lukavish.
                    Mortal combat was beaten on the sly. When the "Afra or African American" was being blasted in the USSR, there was no information, not because there were no blacks in the USSR, but because there was a nipple. Information nipple.
                    It’s like the official dollar was 0,6 rubles per American, and in fact 3 rubles. Birches were under siege. On the approach to the Birch, a forza curled. They planted a forza if they did not pay off. And she (forza) survived and became an oligarchy.
                    Not that, of course, near-party feeding trough, but with billions or green lambs.
                    I then lived and know.
              3. Heimdall47
                Heimdall47 27 January 2016 20: 56
                +1
                French in particular

                After the Napoleonic wars, the French in Algeria were just beginning to gain a foothold. Russia is in the Caucasus early. "Russia - Armenia", "France - Algeria" in general, very close parallels can be drawn.
                And WHAT Faith is for the Armenians - do not remind me? .. lol

                Non-Orthodox. Dokhalkidonsky like she is called. Heretics are shorter, like Catholics, but the other way.
                True comrade atalef pointed out about our common
                By and large, nothing in common. except for being in the USSR

                Well, the Russian Empire.
                intra-Russian interethnic relations - and Armenia is not part of the Russian Federation

                I do not argue. But the Armenians are non-indigenous people of Russia, therefore, a special conversation with them. For centuries, Russians have known whom they saved from Turks, Kurds, and hell. Their last gut was bought out by Russian blood. Therefore, an Armenian must give all tangerines to a Russian for free, especially if we still let him live in our country.
                We owe you nothing, and you owe us a lot of things

                But it’s true - Armenians, Georgians, as peoples are still alive only thanks to the Russian Army.
                looks like the slogan of the unforgettable "world hegemon"

                Russia is the hegemon itself wink
                1. avia1991
                  avia1991 28 January 2016 01: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: Heimdall47
                  French in Algeria

                  Deuce to you in History lol And geography at the same time.
                  Syria and Lebanon - we're talking about the current moment, let's operate with today's problems: refugees from the former French colonies, including, are "genetic discontent" with the colonialists! Although France pursued a very loyal policy in the colonies, and did not possess these colonies for long ... but not so long ago! That is, the memory is fresh.
                  Quote: Heimdall47
                  True comrade atalef pointed out about our common

                  "Comrade atalef" from the "chosen of God" - he will show you a lot of things, he will not clean up! laughing
                  Quote: Heimdall47
                  Armenians - non-indigenous people of Russia
                  If you get deeper into ancient History, then the Rus on the territory of Russia are aliens, and we trampled the lands of the Volga Khazars, and the Pechenegs, and many others! And if you look at today's day, then the Armenians in the waves of non-Slavic peoples, splashing along the Russian plains, make up an insignificant amount, and for the most part they are Russians, indigenous in several generations!
                  Quote: Heimdall47
                  Armenians, Georgians, as peoples are still alive only thanks to the Russian Army.
                  So what?..
                  As we say: "what we have - we do not keep, having lost - we cry." Could not keep the great country from collapse, fled to the corners! And now, of course: "Yes, we-s, yes, we-s!" ! Then our merits will be remembered and respected! And with a bare bottom of the right to swing is pointless.
                  Quote: Heimdall47
                  Russia is the hegemon itself

                  Well! .. Who argues lol
      3. Legotian
        Legotian 26 January 2016 22: 21
        +7
        You are our non-Russian, but you are a Nazi! Just a little - you are going to measure the skull right away, analyze the blood. Just Nazi "blood and soil"! I knew that the Russians groan under the yoke of non-Russian Natsiks, but so frankly ...

        So here. Russian is one who:
        1. Considers himself a Russian.
        2. Acts for the good of the Russians.
        3. Speaks Russian.

        All. No turtles. We Russians are not Nazis, unlike some
        1. bannik
          bannik 27 January 2016 01: 50
          +2
          1. He speaks Russian, because he thinks in Russian.
          And then the lyrics.
        2. EvgNik
          EvgNik 27 January 2016 07: 07
          +1
          Quote: Legotian
          1. Considers himself a Russian.
          2. Acts for the good of the Russians.
          3. Speaks Russian.

          I would clarify.
          1. The one who grew and formed as a person in Russia and in the Russian-speaking environment.
          And then everything else.
          1. Turkir
            Turkir 28 January 2016 14: 14
            0
            The one who grew and formed as a person in Russia and in the Russian-speaking environment.
            And then everything else.

            A simplified view of things leads to errors.
            Therefore, they left to the mercy of fate 20 million Russians in the near abroad?
            If you are your own, Russian, so relate what good can be expected from others?
            And do you consider yourself Russian? Oh really?
          2. Aleksandr Tot
            Aleksandr Tot 30 January 2016 00: 40
            0
            EvgNik. Not funny. Stupid.
            Check out other non-VO sources.
      4. avia1991
        avia1991 27 January 2016 00: 13
        +8
        Quote: non-Russian
        We are all one nation

        Well yes: how to work - so we are all "one nation", but how to share income - so it turns out that "Russians incite ethnic strife"! That is, a Dagestani or a Chechen shoved me in the face - and I couldn't give back - and this is an insult to "a small people!" And if I begin to defend my legitimate interests ... "What are you, but how can you, you must RESPECT ALL!" Who will respect me ?! For some reason, no one can answer.
        I’m not writing so do not try to ascribe "incitement" to me! wassat But I know for sure that we must stand up for OUR WOMEN extremely carefully and selectively - then you don’t get caught up in, and you don’t turn into a criminal .. and don’t care if you live with a bad conscience - but you’ll “save respect” for the nationalist .. ......I have no words!!!
    2. Legotian
      Legotian 26 January 2016 22: 19
      0
      Just like in Germany for example. Dem deutschen Volke.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 27 January 2016 01: 18
        +1
        People, are you a nightmare? For the inscription to the "German people" not in Russian? laughing And at least someone bothered to look, in connection with which the comment - or so, "for the company" we make a minus sign ?! what
      2. ASK505
        ASK505 27 January 2016 11: 16
        -1
        Quote: Legotian
        Dem deutschen Volke.


        Translate and explain: where it is written, to whom and why. Not everyone understands English.
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 27 January 2016 15: 25
          +2
          Quote: ASK505
          Translate and explain:

          Quote: ASK505
          Not everyone understands English.

          I wrote a translation below - right below the comment. And it's not English lol
          And also, in all browsers there are translators. Interesting - highlight, and translate. Everything is simple .. hi
  • Quager
    Quager 26 January 2016 19: 04
    16
    Fine, I think if it is a healthy opposition, then it will not hurt.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 January 2016 19: 08
      +3
      Quote: Quager
      there will be a healthy opposition

      What is the opposition? "Our position in relation to the current government: neutrality." This is generally a masterpiece, this does not happen, either agree with the actions of the current authorities or not. request
      1. Egevich
        Egevich 26 January 2016 19: 42
        +5
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: Quager
        there will be a healthy opposition

        What is the opposition? "Our position in relation to the current government: neutrality." This is generally a masterpiece, this does not happen, either agree with the actions of the current authorities or not. request

        this type of Schaub cannot immediately be snatched away, time is difficult right now, yeah ... just like a slipper by the cabbage soup ... all neutral ones ... in short, the club of interests unspoken is really obvious ...
      2. znorick
        znorick 27 January 2016 01: 07
        -1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        What is the opposition? "Our position in relation to the current government: neutrality." This is generally a masterpiece, this does not happen, either agree with the actions of the current authorities, or not.


        You do not understand the position? Or do you think that absolutism in relation to anything is a manifestation of wisdom?

        Read carefully!
        Our position with regard to the current government: neutrality. The current government is sick and busy with self-destruction. We do not intend to impose ourselves on her as assistants. And get smeared with it too. She is now turning into a walking corpse before our very eyes, having killed herself with economic idiocy for the last fifteen years. It can be said that Yeltsin's course on the most destructive "raw materialization" of the Russian Federation was continued, the consequence of which we have received today is in the form of the danger of socio-economic collapse.
        Link: http://m-kalashnikov.livejournal.com/2569427.html
        1. znorick
          znorick 27 January 2016 10: 53
          +3
          You comrades "minusists" can minus further, and I will add the following:
          Here, many attack the personalities of those who created the committee, point to their idealism, unprofessionalism, age, radical views, and even that the weight of the normal mind is incomprehensible! At the same time, they write laudatory odes to Putin, who, by the way, fully supports the political and economic course of the SAME CREATED by the Government, which consists basically of the radical liberal monetarists of the Gaidar-Chubais (according to Kalashnikov) bottling, those who destroyed the healthcare system and education, who still destroys the remnants of the industrial greatness of the USSR!
          Was it not the Deputy of the Government, Mr. Dvorkovich, who expressed himself with utmost honesty about the policy of the Russian authorities: "Russia must pay for the financial stability of the United States"?
          Or can it be, dear Zaputin forum users - Strelkov, Limonov or Kalashnikov think so?
          You are absolutists who see only two extremes, for some reason you do not notice that your beloved and esteemed Mr. President is absolutely and completely in solidarity with the truly catastrophic actions of the Central Bank. But to him you write off and this as well. For you are just philistines-cap-takers-stables-couch-general mentality. I am sincerely sorry for you.
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 27 January 2016 15: 35
            +1
            Quote: znorick
            You are just philistines-cap-takers-stables-couch-general mentality. I am sincerely sorry for you.

            Boldly! laughing But not constructive. Or, as it is now fashionable to say, "counterproductive" laughing - Those same couches will not understand you. The question is, what do you want? Prove them wrong? Then hit with facts - specifically and to the point. To poke them with their "muzzle on the table", blazing with just indignation? It will not work, because there are most of them, and you will simply spit hi Emotions alone will not work here, Pavel, and your careless
            Quote: znorick
            You comrades "minusists" can minus further,
            points you will not add much, but you will make opponents. The question is, why are you here? Quickly "wave a saber" and be blown away? Or, nevertheless, to convey to people their own views, new information - due to which, gradually, the opinion of opponents changes? "Once" the consciousness of no one is rebuilt .. for some, of course, and never lol
      3. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 27 January 2016 02: 51
        +2
        Vladimirets
        What is the opposition? "Our position in relation to the current government: neutrality." This is generally a masterpiece, this does not happen, either agree with the actions of the current authorities, or not.


        and why?
        if you even partially believe the articles of Nesmiyan (EL_MURID) and even carefully observe all the events of even the last month! in which the so-called quotation mark the world community seems to have taken quite seriously enough to push the ruling elite! by all available means! it’s already in truth has become very noticeably obvious and almost does not hide!
        Nesmyan. like someone or not. certainly a talented analyst, but naturally he can’t afford not to foresee everything in the world))! it’s simply impossible! (besides not having all the info for the carpet war of the world, but only drawing conclusions from the visible part of the iceberg that floats above). Yes, and because a person is not a robot, and often the unpredictable human factor itself does not lend itself to any calculations and predictions! otherwise the west would not have done everything so clumsy enough.
        Therefore, it will be difficult to say whether they will succeed or not! it’s simply impossible! but it’s already getting ready!
        here the question is not even whether the opposition will be created from them or not!
        and in what exactly prompted people who were quite different in ideological views, moreover, noticeably in a rather hasty order, they suddenly unite into one rather motley opposition group! and the conclusion is, in principle, one! that the case of those in power is apparently quite tight, and no matter how things go on, the preparations have already begun.
    2. Asadullah
      Asadullah 26 January 2016 19: 14
      +5
      it will be healthy opposition,


      belay I read that too? Today is clearly a fun evening ....
  • Ural resident
    Ural resident 26 January 2016 19: 04
    -1
    In vain he got along with Limonov - he only discredits himself. This is not his scale personality - now they will say Girkin fascist. And such a hurt was ... insulting
    1. Egevich
      Egevich 26 January 2016 19: 38
      +5
      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      In vain he got along with Limonov - he only discredits himself. This is not his scale personality - now they will say Girkin fascist. And such a hurt was ... insulting


      Limonov is a much more well-known personality, actually ... according to my concepts, Limonov discredits himself with such a company ... he is obviously bored and lonely under his old age ...
    2. Legotian
      Legotian 26 January 2016 22: 31
      +3
      So they’ll say basically all sorts of crazy, weathercocks, who see not their own person, but some kind of their own imagination. Strelkov showed himself from the best side, and I think that he should believe in the future.
  • Hubun
    Hubun 26 January 2016 19: 05
    +1
    more and more Shooters disappoint, unfortunately. Although in the beginning he forced himself to respect.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 January 2016 19: 07
    +1
    Yes, I chatted like a candy wrapper and nailed myself. The COMMITTEE and the goals are promising, in the future "discussion of the question of what will happen in Russia after the end of the presidential term of Vladimir Putin."
    But God will measure Putin 100 years and presidential powers no less, and let your whole life go down the drain.
    The best thing would be useful, if they were smart people ...
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 27 January 2016 01: 21
      +3
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      God will measure Putin 100 years and presidential powers no less

      Do not hope: with such an unstoppable economic growth, we will not last so much laughing
      And nobody is in a hurry to change priorities ..
  • ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 26 January 2016 19: 19
    +2
    Yeah! I picked up, in due time, cons because of Girkin! Well, okay! It remains to bring up all the pernicious "infantry": Khodorkovsky, Navalny, well, and women like Sobchak and Moshonki Gaidar ... In, Russia will find happiness! Well, if, of course, they get to the election commission ... recourse
    1. tomket
      tomket 27 January 2016 00: 12
      +3
      Quote: ALABAY45
      I, in due time, got hold of minuses because of Girkin! Well, oh well!

      How many tears cried out because of this Strelkova)))) At night to see their epaulets mourned and cursed the hated Girkin)))
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 27 January 2016 20: 00
        0
        And, you, "shoulder straps" in battles and battles unprecedented on the shoulders of heroes happened ?! The same "push button", like me, and the keyboard from a mean man's tears you do not bridge, that's for sure! wink
  • Siberia M 54
    Siberia M 54 26 January 2016 19: 20
    -4
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    But God will measure Putin 100 years and no less presidential powers and let your whole life go down the drain

    God forbid Putin presidency for a hundred years. Russia will fly into the pipe.
    1. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 27 January 2016 22: 21
      0
      -------------------------------------------------- ------------------- Do not die of envy!
  • pogranicnik
    pogranicnik 26 January 2016 19: 25
    -3
    and who gives grandmothers to this mess? sold out with ......... !!!!
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 27 January 2016 01: 25
      +4
      Quote: pogranicnik
      who gives grandmothers to this mess? sold out ....

      Where did you see there, in the photo, "a bunch of bucks"? .. Who is in the field hebash, who is in a sweater .. not too many fell on them, you see laughing
      1. ASK505
        ASK505 27 January 2016 11: 21
        -2
        Quote: avia1991
        Where did you see there, in the photo, "a bunch of bucks"? .. Who is in the field hebash, who is in a sweater .. not too many fell on them, you see


        This is their sensible choice. Down and Out trouble started.
  • The black
    The black 26 January 2016 19: 27
    +4
    I advise fans of Limonov to read his famous "It's me - Eddie" (laughing briefly, delirium of a preoccupied fagot!) .... I am sure that his admirers will sharply decrease here. After all, there are overwhelming majority of adekvats.
    1. Altona
      Altona 26 January 2016 19: 41
      +5
      Quote: Black
      I’m sure that his admirers will sharply decrease here, because there are overwhelming majority of adequates.

      ----------------------
      I read this book. In principle, he wrote about an emigrant character who compares the life of the USA and the USSR. If you get hung up on a black man's blowjob, then of course you should not read.
      1. The black
        The black 26 January 2016 19: 47
        +6
        Quote: Altona
        If you get hung up on a black man's blowjob, then of course you should not read.

        That is, this is nonsense? laughing ... Incidentally, he writes on his own behalf, to himself ....
        1. Altona
          Altona 26 January 2016 22: 20
          +3
          Quote: Black
          By the way, he writes in his own name, to himself ....

          ----------------------
          From myself, to myself. He is a writer, it is his business how to form his work. He wrote it in exile, no Glavlit reviewed it. I read it by the way in the early to mid-90s, along with the books of Dovlatov, also an emigrant.
    2. Legotian
      Legotian 26 January 2016 22: 32
      0
      Someone from the whole book remembered only homosexual fantasies. Go to the doctor or something
  • Flinky
    Flinky 26 January 2016 19: 28
    -5
    Well, I understand, Yegor, Elmurid, and shooters - yes, a vile trinity. But Limonov then what the hell got there? Smarter than all of them combined ...
    1. Black
      Black 26 January 2016 20: 17
      +2
      Quote: Flinky
      Smarter than all of them combined ...


      And the back is more tolerant! There is no arguing with you!
      And why are you Strelka recorded in abominations? Reason, however. Otherwise, you-it is.
      1. luxprofi
        luxprofi 26 January 2016 22: 58
        -6
        "What then will those who hysterically cling to heroism say
        Strelkova? That this weapon was taken away from the hero by others.
        whether the Donetsk and Lugansk militias? But the routes are
        zhiya will be tracked sooner or later. And everyone who accompanied the weapons along these routes will tell everything from and to. And then what will be said?
        Or when comrades, and most importantly, comrades, speak
        Strelkova, engaged in the guise of providing rear dey-
        the presence of the Slavic army with something utterly unlikely? They say that they are bad, and Strelkov good?
        And when it turns out that weapons in huge numbers
        Wach was accumulated, for example, in some basements, located
        ny in the building located in Slavyansk and intended
        to train aviation technicians? what
        they will say when asked about which of these cellars was
        rebuilt a huge amount of weapons? Who is his transfer
        shaft? What were the relationships between those who moved him-
        shaft and those who received it? How was it used then?
        And please don't tell me this will never come to light. Or that you can, when all this is revealed, still shout: "Hands off the hero!" From the book "Strelkov and Others"
  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 26 January 2016 19: 36
    0
    "Uncountable next - here it is - drooling from the fangs of saliva ..."
  • Altona
    Altona 26 January 2016 19: 38
    16
    In principle, the program is healthy, but the composition of the participants raises questions about personalities. Given how heterogeneous their programs were before, I wonder how they would compile their single program. Okay, we'll see what happens. I agree about the unhealthy domestic politics, and Putin is already inadequate in his domestic politics. I heard this in his participation in the ONF forum yesterday, when a businessman asked him about the prohibitive loan rate for the real sector, Putin replied that “we have a different economy, not like in Europe. You know what will happen when cheap credit is injected into the economy. masses? we will collapse into inflation of the 90s and everything that has been done, everything will go to dust, sorry, to the foreign exchange market. " And this was the reasoning of the head of state. I was shocked.
    1. znorick
      znorick 27 January 2016 01: 28
      +8
      With the competence of Vladimir Vladimirovich, everything has been clear in the economy for a long time.
      So after the press conference of the President of 17.12.15, such distinguished experts as, for example, Valentin Yuryevich Katasonov expressed himself in a very gentle form about Putin’s complete illiteracy in terms of the economy. http://reosh.ru/aktualnyj-kommentarij-ot-v-yu-katasonova-o-press-konferencii-vv
      -putina.html
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 27 January 2016 01: 36
      +4
      Quote: Altona
      Do you know what will happen if cheap credit is injected into the economy? we will collapse into inflation of the 90s and everything that has been done will go to dust, sorry, to the foreign exchange market. ”And this was the reasoning of the head of state. I was shocked.
      And I’ve been gone for a long time.
      There are no economists in the government! They are nearby, many of them soberly assess (I hope) the situation, and certainly offer options, BUT .. the oil lobby, in the form of an operating "economic bloc", headed by a DAM, does not seem to be able to reasonably talk about a non-resource economy - yes and does not want to! And all these advisors, annoyingly buzzing next to their initiatives .. WHY! DO NOT DO YOURSELF, TEA!
      PS Ah, yes - there are Siluanov! .. But he - alas - "just an accountant. True, a very good accountant." (Nikita Isaev) wink
    3. Kelwin
      Kelwin 27 January 2016 05: 08
      -3
      Do you know what will happen if cheap credit is injected into the economy? we will collapse into inflation of the 90s and everything that has been done will go to dust, sorry, to the foreign exchange market. ”And this was the head of state's reasoning. I was shocked.

      Vladimir Vladimirovich simply could not (probably) answer in more detail that there are many speculative schemes leading to an increase in dollar liquidity, but there are not enough tools to counter it.
      But in fact he is right, he will be so, give me cheap rubles, and, under current conditions, they will instantly be converted into dollars in different ways, as a result of further weakening of the ruble and acceleration of inflation. For example, we can take the recent "Black Monday" - those who got on the train put 300% + in their pockets literally in two days. And they pulled it out, of course, from you and me. Why do we need such a credit policy, IMHO, of course.
      1. znorick
        znorick 27 January 2016 11: 11
        +3
        Well, what are you trying to discredit the guard even more, and with it yourself?
        Firstly, it is not even clear to an economist that before you bring a large amount of money to the market, you need to insure yourself against speculation. You won’t be safe at 100%, there will always be crooks, but if you stop the bulk of speculators, this will already be a good measure. This is done at least as in the 1998 year by the Government of the respected comrade Primakov.
        Secondly, what can be import substitution without money, without investments in fixed assets of the enterprise, without the purchase of new equipment? In this case, there can be no real import substitution, but Putin-Medvedev-populist import substitution, please - the media will show you a picture, and in some small village at that time the only school and hospital in the district will close, because the city-forming enterprise was closed due to an excessive loan rate, due to the lack of working capital, and the local budget was empty!

        Protect further than your hero Putin, but do not forget about his closest friends, associates and colleagues. And then throw a hat over the hated West. The flag with the face of Yeltsin in your hands!
        1. Kelwin
          Kelwin 27 January 2016 14: 04
          +1
          I'm not defending anyone, I just voiced my personal opinion and gave an example of how it happens. You yourself wrote the correct key phrase "you need to insure yourself against speculation", of course you need to, just nothing. But why there is nothing, you need to ask the Ministry of Finance and the regulator, I do not work there and do not know what is happening inside. But I know what is happening here, outside, and I do not like it as much as you do, but at the moment we have what we have.
          As for import substitution, in reality it will not exist in the foreseeable future, well, maybe, with the exception of certain industries, and it's not about loans, or rather, not only loans. It takes time and capital investments to create a technological base and train personnel, which no one is eager to do, because give a payback in six months, and this does not happen. Therefore, the enterprise may be closed, because instead of investing in development, the management "effectively" invests in foreigners and other cottages. Give them cheap loans, they will be very happy, only tomorrow, not one, but three enterprises will close. It is necessary to plant with confiscation, and not to distribute loans, especially when the worker does not have a salary, and the manager has a villa with a pool and Maybach. The same does not happen, but it is necessary to give out earrings to all the sisters, even if only on the forum, otherwise the crowd is fattening, but one is to blame. You can shower them with slippers, but I am sure that no immediate result can be achieved by changing the top management, because there is a mess at all levels and in many heads.
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 27 January 2016 15: 52
            0
            Quote: KelWin
            Give them cheap loans, they will be very happy, only tomorrow will close not one, but three enterprises.

            But what about the "fight against corruption" that the President just spoke about? laughing You yourself answer the question:
            Quote: KelWin
            It’s necessary to plant with confiscation,
            and convey the inevitability of this event, with inappropriate spending of money, to all leaders!
            By the way, regarding
            Quote: KelWin
            insure against speculation ", of course, it is necessary, only there is nothing
            - so the Central Bank has enough mechanisms for this, and the aforementioned Primakov-Gerashchenko cabinet used them very successfully! But since Nabiullina is "the best head of the Central Bank," in the West's opinion, these mechanisms are successfully rusting in our country, and Putin CANNOT do anything WHY wassat You do not know why?
            In such situations, other governments sharply limit foreign exchange trading, and tightly regulate the cross-border movement of currencies, knocking stools from under the feet of speculators. This is a measure vital to national security, and its non-use is akin to a betrayal of state interests!
            And we must invest in the development of enterprises. And if the state gives the company a cheap loan, any industrialist will start to move, because he, unlike the official, THINKS about the future, and clearly understands that his success depends on the work of his asset. Inflation is not it. With an increase in output, its value more than compensates for the money invested - inflation, on the contrary, will decrease.
            1. Kelwin
              Kelwin 28 January 2016 20: 22
              0
              There are a lot of these "why", including those about which we have no idea at all, it's an endless topic.
              I’m talking about a specific situation, here and now - cheap loans for a short time will give the illusion of perspective, but then they will break it off very hard, not giving the expected effect, but exacerbating the situation. I don’t understand why the measures you listed are not used, but I’m not a doctor of economics, I’m a furniture maker and I live in the same world with you. I suppose there may be reasons unknown to us. Or it may not be, it is possible that the government has the same qualifications in economic matters as in matters of network regulation (this is a disgrace with the rutracker) and you will be right.
              But the conversation is not about who's hands are growing out of there, and not about who to plant and how, but about what will happen tomorrow. The time scales for the accumulation of changes in the system and the time for rolling a cheap loan are not comparable by an order of magnitude, this is the main thing. And, in my opinion, you give too much credit to "any industrialists", there are enough smart ones)
              But in general, I would drink with you, write, would discuss pressing issues)
              1. avia1991
                avia1991 29 January 2016 18: 52
                0
                Quote: KelWin
                in my opinion, you give too much credit to "any industrialists", there are enough smart ones there)

                Kirill, cheap credit is mainly needed by enterprises that have not yet managed to bankrupt those "smart-ass" ones, and whose directors are trying their best to keep production and personnel! And a cheap loan is not a "short" loan, there is no question of this: loans issued to enterprises for the modernization and development of production, renewal of production facilities and technologies should be cheap. These goals cannot be achieved in a short period - we are talking about several years, and within the same framework - profit. That is why not a single industrialist will take a loan at 20% - such a loan will quickly kill his enterprise! And "short" loans are beneficial only to banks that use these funds for trading on the MICEX, where they successfully beat off all credit interest, while leaving themselves a healthy profit .. which, apparently, is shared with higher "comrades" - otherwise than to explain such an indomitable desire of the government and the President, in a difficult economic situation, to pour money into banking structures?
                Quote: KelWin
                I am a furniture maker and live in the same world with you

                hi a sober look always impresses! I'm not an economist either wink
                Quote: KelWin
                The time scales for the accumulation of changes in the system and the time for rolling a cheap loan are not comparable by an order of magnitude
                ..and again I do not agree with you. If only because changes in the system, in the absence of cheap money for industry, can only be degenerative, and if we want to see progress, we will have to invest and invest on the terms available for business.
                Quote: KelWin
                But in general, I would drink with you, write, would discuss pressing issues)
                No problem! drinks and you may not "write" wink
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  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 26 January 2016 19: 39
    0
    For the sake of completeness, they don’t have enough couples of homosexuals, there’s an incompetence in the gang;
  • GraveBezKresta
    GraveBezKresta 26 January 2016 19: 42
    38
    Putin's "cunning plan". Roof "family" for 17 years. Save Chubais, Abramovich. Well, okay, this is understandable, the "family" put him behind this. But why open a museum for this shit for 15 billion rubles? Why is that? Time will pass - they will not leave a stone unturned from this museum. The people hate Yeltsin with genetic hatred!
    1. hartlend
      hartlend 26 January 2016 20: 00
      +3
      Why in the comments to the article slide into a discussion of extraneous issues?
      1. GraveBezKresta
        GraveBezKresta 26 January 2016 21: 13
        18
        This is not an outside question! This is a strategic, political issue. This means that Yeltsin's course continues with some changes. Putin even gave "his" money for this museum.
        Strelkov used to be for Putin, now against.
        Yeltsin is an ideology. Moreover, at the moment, a living ideology. Against this background, all other questions are extraneous!
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 January 2016 22: 21
          -3
          But do not tell Yeltsin’s ideology?
          1. GraveBezKresta
            GraveBezKresta 26 January 2016 22: 43
            11
            Quote: Vadim237
            But do not tell Yeltsin’s ideology?

            Easy! Ask Chubais, Gref, Abramovich, Medvedev, Dvorkovich, Vekselberg and even the best representatives of the oligarchy who are finishing Russia.
            My personal opinion is simple - "WE WILL DO IT SO THAT YOUR COUNTRY BECOMES OUR COUNTRY" (see the names above). hi
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 27 January 2016 10: 12
              -4
              Abramovich’s sideways side here - he doesn’t manage financial flows and state structures, among other things, he is a co-investor in some industrial projects in Yakutia and where he finishes off - Chubais has 65 medium-sized factories built with the support of Rusnano - these guys feed from their separate feeder - to tear Russia apart it will not work anymore - everywhere its owners, with their own rules and conditions for doing business.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 January 2016 20: 07
      -7
      They used to say that they opened a museum for 6 billion, now it’s already 15 - you’ll at least decide you don’t need to demolish the building, it’s still useful for the Putin museum - although I doubt that there will be anyone who will remodel and break something.
      1. Oorfene Deuce
        Oorfene Deuce 26 January 2016 20: 11
        10
        Quote: Vadim237
        demolition of the building is not necessary, it is still useful for the Putin Museum

        Putin will apparently be identified in the mausoleum.
        1. bannik
          bannik 26 January 2016 21: 13
          +1
          You and I will be "identified" much earlier, and not in the mausoleum. And, Lenin, let him lie so that the current and future rulers know that their mummy can be put on public display.
          1. tomket
            tomket 27 January 2016 00: 16
            +5
            Quote: bannik
            You and I will be "identified" much earlier, and not in the mausoleum. And, Lenin, let him lie so that the current and future rulers know that their mummy can be put on public display.

            And then Putin spoke about Lenin. Coincidence???????
      2. bannik
        bannik 26 January 2016 21: 03
        -2
        Let it stand as a warning to posterity!
      3. GraveBezKresta
        GraveBezKresta 26 January 2016 21: 18
        +4
        Putin also acted as a sponsor. The amount of his contribution has not been disclosed (it looks like it is several times higher than his “presidential salary.” Some sources claim that 15 billion was spent. The exact figures are not published. Maybe more. Kickbacks, sir!
        "On the opposite wall at the entrance to the museum are the names of all the sponsors of the center. Here, next to each other, you can see plaques with the names of people and organizations of completely different levels. For example, Vladimir Putin and the Monetka retail chain."
        1. bannik
          bannik 27 January 2016 00: 50
          +3
          The museum may be left for the edification of posterity, but the sponsors will certainly try to remove the "plaques" as soon as the "wind" changes, but they should be left as well.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 January 2016 21: 14
      -16 qualifying.
      Let the museum exist - a historical reminder no matter how - it doesn’t bother anyone and doesn’t ask.
      1. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 27 January 2016 02: 59
        +8
        Here is the real Yeltsin center !!
        he does not deserve another!
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 27 January 2016 10: 00
          +1
          For that, the country deserves to know what happened in the 90s.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 January 2016 19: 42
    +1
    Strelkov and his team for me will remain exactly as the defenders of Slavyansk! Here is an example of how fame and ambition spoil people ... Maybe for the better, that happened and thank God ... A lesson to us for the future!
    1. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 30 January 2016 20: 03
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Strelkov and his team for me will remain exactly as the defenders of Slavyansk!
      +;
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Here is an example of how fame and ambition spoil people ...
      -;
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Maybe it’s for the best, that it happened and thank God ... A lesson to us for the future!
      +.
      In total +.
  • satelit24
    satelit24 26 January 2016 19: 50
    +2
    Remember on this piss (all kinds of pink spectacle generals) Serdyukov praised what he said gold, and now spread rot on him winked Vissarionovich was smeared with shit for so many years! —Okay, at least now they are gradually washing up! Maybe in ten years the GDP will also spread rot, saying where did he get 40 billion North American rubles from ?! request
    1. bannik
      bannik 26 January 2016 20: 13
      +4
      Indeed, where from? Maybe you know? Share, only without links to the Air Force!
      1. satelit24
        satelit24 26 January 2016 21: 52
        -2
        Why the air force belay first and second channel Forbes magazine 10 richest request
        1. bannik
          bannik 26 January 2016 22: 42
          0
          Both the first and the second said - from where? Well, Forbes is generally an authority for me: if they stop producing "deficit" (for those who remember), I will use Forbes.
          1. satelit24
            satelit24 26 January 2016 23: 37
            0
            The problem is not who gave the info (through central channels) - it is interesting that no one began to refute it repeat
            1. bannik
              bannik 26 January 2016 23: 55
              +1
              And why refute what was said by unknown who and unknown to whom. Allegedly, some deputy head of the Air Force (Baba Baba said) provided information about some secret information that he could not provide for secrecy, but everyone knows about this information for at least 10 years. Well, excuse me, or give the facts (incontrovertible), or go on ...!
        2. bannik
          bannik 26 January 2016 22: 59
          0
          Sorry, I just noticed. You, whose satellite? And why with one L?
          1. bannik
            bannik 26 January 2016 23: 30
            -1
            Do not be embarrassed, minus, minus, if you can’t answer!
          2. satelit24
            satelit24 26 January 2016 23: 45
            +1
            Not whose, but whom or what smile But petty dishonesty is not necessary to know laughing
    2. Gorinich
      Gorinich 26 January 2016 20: 26
      10
      Why through 10? Everything will happen very quickly and already this year many of his fans on this site will drive him. Most people have the same nature ...
      1. bannik
        bannik 27 January 2016 00: 05
        -1
        Well, glory to God, finally you struck! And then, suddenly - constipation. So whom and what will you be? Kindly, big evil, answer!
    3. tomket
      tomket 27 January 2016 00: 18
      +5
      Quote: satelit24
      Serdyukov praised what kind of gold they say, but now they spread rot on him

      On this site, Serdyukov has always been spread rot. but from some times and with the filing of some people began to praise, so you are a little confused.
  • smith7
    smith7 26 January 2016 19: 53
    +2
    And it's cool ... How opinions were divided on article 7:13 (at the time of writing the comment) I put a "minus" myself. I assume (wang) that in the elections of the President of the Russian Federation, the real number of people for the candidate against the continuation of the current President's course and in support of "Putinism" is 1: 2. At first glance, "January 25" was created to create an alternative. Possibly a manageable alternative. Or out of boredom. Both are not good. But I'd rather be wrong. Girkin evokes sympathy, Limonov does not, El Murid is a dreamer. So far, it is difficult to call this motley group guardians of the Fatherland. Time will tell. "Judge them according to their works" (c) Old Testament.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 26 January 2016 20: 06
      0
      Until time will tell, this "motley group of guardians for the fatherland" will break so much wood.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 27 January 2016 01: 44
        +3
        Quote: Orionvit
        so much firewood breaks.

        How? And by what forces?
        What obvious or hidden economic and political levers do these people have, such that you are already clutching your head?
    2. bannik
      bannik 26 January 2016 20: 49
      -4
      Oh, do not wang, this is not a thankful job! Most likely this symbiosis of a snake and a hedgehog will turn into N meters of barbed wire, which we will all stumble on. Damn, and I was dragged into the vanging!
  • hartlend
    hartlend 26 January 2016 19: 58
    -4
    Companions of Limonov will help us "accept" migrants who are trying to push into Russia from Europe. There will be a night of long baseball bats and bicycle frames instead of a tie.
    1. satelit24
      satelit24 26 January 2016 21: 57
      -3
      The most important thing is not to forget about the crystal night wink
  • Telemon
    Telemon 26 January 2016 19: 58
    -7
    Here I have constantly advertising about sofas ... recourse For girkin, always crying for himself.
  • jaroff
    jaroff 26 January 2016 19: 59
    -2
    Unfortunately, we are increasingly discussing political news. Military review, as such, is less and less.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 26 January 2016 20: 07
      14
      Quote: zharyoff
      Unfortunately, we are increasingly discussing political news. Military review, as such, is less and less.

      Are you starting again ..? Literally today, many articles on weapons were here! Understand at last in Russia this is all one tangle! Everything is interconnected...
      1. satelit24
        satelit24 26 January 2016 22: 00
        -5
        That's always the case! - flies and borsch all together! Eat do not get your mouth shut laughing
    2. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 26 January 2016 21: 01
      +9
      War - continuation of politics by other methods

      Karl von Clausewitz.
      1. arane
        arane 27 January 2016 00: 22
        +3
        Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
        War - continuation of politics by other methods

        Karl von Clausewitz.


        Alternatively:
        War is the last argument of kings!
        Cardinal Reshill
      2. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 30 January 2016 20: 08
        0
        Both politics and war are a consequence.
  • Orionvit
    Orionvit 26 January 2016 20: 03
    +2
    Quote: Quager
    Fine, I think if it is a healthy opposition, then it will not hurt.

    Where do you see healthy people in this company?
  • garnik64
    garnik64 26 January 2016 20: 06
    18
    I respect Strelkov-Girkin so that they don’t talk about him, he’s a patriot. Sometimes Limonov carries nonsense. I don’t know the rest. And worrying about the future of Russia is worthy of respect, I fully support their initiative.
    1. luxprofi
      luxprofi 26 January 2016 22: 52
      -5
      The diametrical opposite of all that is
      the true content of heroism, Strelkov discovers once
      over and over again. He shamelessly presented this antiheroism,
      having known the infamously famous "rifle dump". He is no less
      shamelessly presented it, giving time after time a slack in each
      from atypical political situations for him. He carried out
      a whole cascade of egregious anti-heroic anthrash going
      on the subject of very docile and very shallow special policies -
      human demons.
      Maybe he himself is a demon, or maybe not.
      But he is obviously not a hero. Can't be a hero
      the man who so dumped from Slavyansk, giving in addition to this
      incredibly important city Kramatorsk, Druzhkovka. Can not
      to be a hero a man who was preparing to be accelerated
      but leave Donetsk. A man who cannot be a hero
      all the time lying finely on key issues. For example, by
      I ask for the presence or absence of weapons from him and his army
      in the right quality and quantity. Or on the issue of who, how
      and, by the way, what a bloody price saved me from absolute
      his high nobility, whining continuously about the fact that
      defeat is inevitable, preparing to extract from this position
      a maximum of small reputation and economic benefits.
      A man cannot be a hero who, with ease, is unusual
      teahouse changes principles, values, criteria. Can not be
      hero of a man who until recently was the antipode of Pu-
      Tina, accusing Putin of inability and unwillingness to support
      in the Donbass, a heroic Russian beginning. And then he suddenly began -
      not making sure that at least some decency
      observe - Putin enthusiastically praise. And call yourself
      almost the main guardsman of this, as he now discovered, a great man. From the book "Shooters and Others". You can download http://eot.su/
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 27 January 2016 01: 48
        +2
        Quote: luxprofi
        luxprofi (1)

        not tired yet to rewrite quotes?
        And do not you attract, my dear people, for trying to get commercial benefits on the site for free? How many bucks have you been promised for promoting the bookstore? wassat
  • Riv
    Riv 26 January 2016 20: 06
    15
    At one time during the coup, when Gorbach was arrested, I was a company duty officer. Dismissals have been canceled, we are sitting in the Leninist room and watching TV. Ballet, who remembers. Well, of course the news. That's when I realized that there would be no sense. When Makashova saw, in a stupid beret. Well, clowns of revolutions do not and coups cannot be trusted.

    So it is here. Well, dress you normally. White T-shirt - going to the bath? A vest from under a sweater ... A tattoo on the elbow in the form of a snowflake ... Camouflage without shoulder straps ... Glasses with a beard, at the sight of which you want to take ye ... well, you know. There will be no sense from these, in short.
    1. ALABAY45
      ALABAY45 26 January 2016 20: 19
      +4
      "... Well, clowns of revolutions and coups do not do ..."
      They do it! yes Just like they do! The difference is that some clowns receive beads and 1,5 hundred banana plantations for their performances, while others get Ukraine and bucks!
      1. Riv
        Riv 26 January 2016 21: 40
        +6
        But the Ukrainian Maidan wasn’t started by clowns, right? Clowns are just supplies for him, puppets. But in fact, quite serious people pulled the ropes.
    2. tomket
      tomket 27 January 2016 00: 20
      +1
      Quote: Riv
      Well, clowns of revolutions do not and coups cannot be trusted.

      The revolution is made by drunk clowns))))
  • bannik
    bannik 26 January 2016 20: 10
    -2
    Good health and Longevity to you, Eduard Veniaminovich! HEAD Doesn't bother you? Well, thank God!
  • misterwulf
    misterwulf 26 January 2016 20: 12
    0
    The manifesto is good. If only there was no war. Igor + Eduard = civil war, although I sincerely respect the first, and the second is a cool dude, but .... I also respect. stop
  • Orionvit
    Orionvit 26 January 2016 20: 15
    +2
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Interestingly, so many minuses were stuck to those who, to put it mildly, were surprised by such a passage, but not a single comment was in defense, what would it be? what

    And who to protect? There was a normal person, he was doing his job, and it brought you to the company. Regardless of the idea, the environment must be carefully chosen. So, Mr. Girkin has spoiled the rating for himself with this step. And the defenders have already made me cons, silently, without comment. And you say no one.
  • Orionvit
    Orionvit 26 January 2016 20: 26
    +4
    Quote: Black
    Quote: Altona
    If you get hung up on a black man's blowjob, then of course you should not read.

    That is, this is nonsense? laughing ... Incidentally, he writes on his own behalf, to himself ....

    Yes, there is the whole book, a manual on sexual psychopathology. It was very popular in the early 90s. By the way, he describes the mores and inclinations of "revolutionaries" and "politicians" of all stripes. The truth is mostly on the example of the US Communist Party.
  • bannik
    bannik 26 January 2016 20: 27
    -3
    No matter what they say here, but BALAMUT and SPEAKING in ONE GLASS - IT'S COOL !!!
    PS: I’ll take cons as a gift!
    1. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 22: 21
      0
      Yes pzh-that. I will accept too.
  • pvmvmp
    pvmvmp 26 January 2016 20: 29
    +4
    This union of absolutely different people causes nothing but surprise. It seems that they will learn from their own mistakes, but we will look
  • Gorinich
    Gorinich 26 January 2016 20: 31
    +5
    Of those who are in the photo: the host of the channel Neyromir. I recommend viewing it to everyone. You may even find this an advertisement. But there at least they are trying to objectively select the themes of the programs.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 27 January 2016 01: 54
      +4
      Quote: Gorinich
      there at least try to objectively select the themes of the programs.

      Well, "not quite" frankly, objectivity is far-fetched there. For objectivity, it would be necessary to see the opinion of more different people - but here we get more coincidence of views. And who has heard the arguments of the opposite side? After all, they can also be weighty and convincing ..
      What I like is that the man is not indifferent, and is engaged in what he believes in! It seems to be .. wink
  • onix757
    onix757 26 January 2016 20: 38
    +8
    Everything is correct, there is nothing to wait, it is necessary to consolidate.
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 26 January 2016 20: 50
    -2
    Still, it is not clear what they want. Authorities? Of money? Fame?
    Neither the first nor the last in the Moscow offices they will not find ...
    1. Asian
      Asian 26 January 2016 21: 03
      -1
      Fulfillment of foreign wishes
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 January 2016 21: 15
      0
      They want everything at once.
  • Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 26 January 2016 20: 55
    +6
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Interestingly, so many minuses were stuck to those who, to put it mildly, were surprised by such a passage, but not a single comment was in defense, what would it be?

    I’ll try to explain. You can minus me. Unfortunately, I had this. A normal, patriotic officer does everything to win. BUT because of political games, and not always fair and related to personal interests, it is very difficult to figure out who is on whose side. The worst thing is when you are leaked information that does not correspond to reality and simply "leaked" you. So don't blame Girkin.
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  • Demon
    Demon 26 January 2016 21: 02
    -14 qualifying.
    Saw! "Committee on January 25", saw it! I propose, comrades, to organize some kind of "May 32 Committee", for example. And he will fight to prevent dandruff from blacks starving in Africa! Shooter, bitch, what have you come to! But he was a hero! Ugh, shame !!!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 January 2016 21: 21
      -9
      He ceased to be a hero when Slavyansk left - climbed into the political jungle and finally got bogged down in a swamp of pessimism.
      1. satelit24
        satelit24 26 January 2016 22: 12
        +7
        He ceased to be a hero - when he said publicly by box that the GDP had betrayed them! So they leaked the man!
    2. Legotian
      Legotian 26 January 2016 22: 34
      0
      Noviopes from Europe fell in love with Strelkov for the heroism and protection of the Russians, and fell out of love .. uh ... for nothing. Well done what
    3. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 13 February 2016 22: 25
      0
      You are awesome. I about the argument - [quote = Demon] Ugh [/ quote].
      [quote = Demon] preventing dandruff from blacks [/ quote] - this is what quote = Demon] Strelkorv, bitch [/ quote] and understanding to
      [quote = Demon] Saw! [/ quote].
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 26 January 2016 21: 17
    10
    The fact that VO unusually promptly posted a reaction to "January 25" was not surprising ...
    1. tomket
      tomket 27 January 2016 00: 22
      +5
      Quote: samarin1969
      The fact that VO unusually promptly posted a reaction to "January 25" was not surprising.

      The Banshees with Domocles are practicing, if it weren’t for VO, and if they don’t have slops in the end, I would never have known about the committee or about the official attitude towards it.
  • Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 26 January 2016 21: 17
    -1
    For a long time, Girkin was determined by party affiliation ..
    Even N. Starikov at one time showed interest in him.
    Now, when an external enemy is pressing, we just did not have enough to emphasize the "inferiority of Russians" in Russia .. Then we will definitely get an additional headache.
  • Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 26 January 2016 21: 19
    +9
    [quote = Demon] Strelkorv, bitch, what have you come to! [/ quo Before stating this, think about what you yourself have done or will be able to do ??? It's easier to blame than sitting and banging keys request
    1. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 27 January 2016 00: 01
      -1
      Despite all the attributed merits, Mr. Girkin in the current reality behaved somehow wrong ..., not communicatively ..
      Maybe there wasn’t enough education, maybe tricks, maybe reliable friends ...
      I have nothing against him .. But now he looks "sorry" on camera ...
      Everyone got rid of him .., and took the "pins" into the state ...
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander 26 January 2016 21: 21
    19
    I know one thing: Stelkov -ZA Russia, fought for it, never betrayed anyone and never betray. For me, this is enough-let them organize a party and work for the good of Russia as they understand it. Their stated goals are commendable.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 26 January 2016 21: 55
      -3
      Quote: Aleksander
      That's enough for me

      and for me it’s enough that he gave a hand to the glutton
      and all his merits until he crossed out
      just as the skins and cranes trampled into the mud their orders received in the defense of Russia and merits to the motherland
      1. tomket
        tomket 27 January 2016 00: 24
        13
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and for me it’s enough that he gave a hand to the glutton

        Well, Putin Poroshenko shook hands. and she greets Gref once a week, and communicates with Kudrin in friendly relations, and with Serdyukov, and sets Vasiliev free. Why aren’t you comparing Putin with Shkuro?
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 27 January 2016 01: 59
          +5
          Quote: tomket
          Well, Putin Poroshenko shook hands. and Gref shakes once a week

          laughing !!! BRAVO!!! good
      2. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 30 January 2016 20: 28
        0
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        but for me it’s enough that he

        Dear Vladimir Vasilenko, categoricalness in judgments is one of the signs of the limited possibility of a source of judgment. If the judgment is limited by the Charter, this is one thing (albeit ugly, but monotonous), but if categoricality is a consequence of the limited thinking of the individual, it limits the person in the amount of perceived information that is absolutely necessary for a correct understanding of the environment and, accordingly, making adequate decisions.
  • 35lisment35
    35lisment35 26 January 2016 21: 38
    -1
    The prosvirin is moral, leafing further ...
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 26 January 2016 21: 50
    +2
    editor-in-chief of the Sputnik and Pogrom portal Yegor Prosvirnin

    ... I am not (censored) whether the Russians are Europeans or Asians, and the future of the Russians themselves is, frankly, not really either (censorship). The only thing that worries me is my personal certificate of Racial Purity of the Highest Sample and the package of additional options that relies on it, including Ethiopian prisoners with webs, trips to whores to the nearest concentration camp and the most gentle soap made from human fats.

    We are very offended when we are called “Nazis” or “fascists”. Not because there is Hitler-Holocaust, other garbage, but because Nazism, fascism, communism, etc. the mass movements of the first third of the XNUMXth century are entertainment for the “working people”. We are guided by initially aristocratic Russian nationalism, for which all these "working people" in black a la working uniforms are a little le bydlo
    E. Prosvirin

    on fig
    1. Legotian
      Legotian 26 January 2016 22: 36
      -2
      The first he did not write - you are just (censorship), the second is pure truth. Is there anything to say, a worker?
  • GDV
    GDV 26 January 2016 21: 57
    +6
    Do not judge and you will not be judged, for by what court you judge by such a court and condemn.
    We don’t need emotions, we watch, we observe, because we can’t give anything apart from verbal diarrhea on the air.
  • epsilon571
    epsilon571 26 January 2016 22: 19
    +2
    Today the situation in the country is very much like 1905. The "crisis at the top" is manifested in the inability of the authorities to carry out economic reforms, and the "lower classes" do not like the arbitrariness of officials and oligarchs. History repeats itself, we again step on the same rake ..

    ..Comrade, it’s unnecessary to reinvent the wheel, let's restore justice! Today, only the Communist Party has the right to revival. Despite the mistakes of the past, only this party is able to unite the people and lead the country out of the crisis. Doubtful committees and new Gaponists are unnecessary to me, followed by blood and chaos. I do not want blood, I want justice!
    1. satelit24
      satelit24 26 January 2016 22: 33
      +4
      And the Zyuganov oil rigs will be expropriated - will we? repeat
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 27 January 2016 02: 06
      +4
      Quote: epsilon571
      only this party is able to unite the people and lead the country out of the crisis.

      Can not! And it won’t.
      For real revival requires a NEW party, a NEW Idea and NEW politicians - who will receive a salary after the last janitor in Kaliningrad receives it, and the salary will be "the national average"! And they work - the new enti politicians - will be day and night for the good of the people - not themselves !!! - and for the prosperity of our Motherland! Which will have a new beautiful name: U-T-O-P-I-I ...
    3. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 27 January 2016 22: 33
      -1
      You are ours green-eyed. You are right as always, like a right egg and like a rising sun.
      Who would doubt that you, like all the "correct" ones, will support the cry - "I do not want blood, I want justice!" Well done.
  • ivanych
    ivanych 26 January 2016 22: 35
    0
    Something immediately came to mind Ostap Bender and ... Father of Russian democracy. - Take courage, take courage, etc., etc.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 26 January 2016 22: 53
    +8
    There are no unpatriots or weak-minded among the "officers" of the VO ... however, the tendentious criticism of Igor Vsevolodovich Girkin
    reminds verbal Charlie Hebdo

    Man, deed and word, fought for the Russian world in the Balkans, Transnistria, the Caucasus and Donbass ...
    I saw him and his people in Crimea in 2014 ... good, honest, modest people

    Limonov - as a person casts a shadow on the concept of "Russian people". But he sent several "bayonets" to the LDNR. That is good.

    Nesmyan - indisputable, gloomy. But it’s good vangs, accurate in estimates.

    There is "Voennoye Obozreniye" - a patriotic reserve, which helped Novorossia in 2014 (photo reports, etc.)

    All!...

    ... The rest of the political and media army has the ears of Gazprom or the State Department. (Ritual political inter-sabotage)
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 26 January 2016 23: 30
    -2
    I recall the words “It was as if they had thrown tremors in.” Fascists, nationalists, anarchists, the fifth liberal column, communists and just plain rubbish.
    How is it that nobody from the right sector was included in the association?
  • kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 26 January 2016 23: 33
    0
    First we need to save the country within the borders of the Russian Federation, to prevent its collapse (as in 1991).

    Everything, it’s for the orderlies, comrade.
  • tenere1200
    tenere1200 26 January 2016 23: 45
    +6
    There is no prophet in the Fatherland. Some thieves and vrottenbergs. That's why even such a motley group causes so many conflicting words and attention. When Girkin gathered a battle-worthy army in a couple of months, and people started talking about him as a commander and leader, a group of people in the Kremlin realized that today tomorrow people would only talk about him and not about the guarantor of the Yeltsin constitution. So they removed it quickly. Talking about the fact that he defended New Russia, and then he got scared and went home. And everyone suddenly realized that Girkin radish, and Peskov and the Pilot smiled at each other ...