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Day of Military Glory of Russia - Day of the complete liberation of the city of Leningrad from the blockade (1944 year)

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27 January 1944 was closed one of the most terrible pages in stories of humanity. This is a blockade of Leningrad, organized by the Nazi occupiers. It was 27 January 72 a year ago the blockade of the city on the Neva was completely lifted, and today this memorable day is celebrated as the Day of Military Glory of Russia. The corresponding federal law No. 32 “On the days of military glory (victory days) of Russia” was signed in the Russian Federation in March 1995.


The original name of the Day of Military Glory is the Day of the lifting of the blockade of the city of Leningrad (1944 year). However, in 2013, it was decided to correct this name, since at the end of January, 1944-th by the Soviet troops, who had previously unblocked several sections in the Leningrad direction, had completely blockaded the blockade.

Day of Military Glory of Russia - Day of the complete liberation of the city of Leningrad from the blockade (1944 year)


27 January 1944 of the year ended the horror in which the city existed 872 day and night. There is still no absolutely accurate data on how many lives Hitler's plan to transform the most beautiful Soviet city - the northern pearl - into ruins and ashes. Until now, scientists are arguing about how many residents of besieged Leningrad died from Nazi bombs and shells, which - from hunger and cold, which - from epidemics caused by lack of food and elementary medicines.

According to the most modest estimates, the number of Leningraders who died during the blockade of the day of 872 amounted to 650 thousand people. This suggests that more than 30 people died in Leningrad in one blockade hour - and so more than two years. And because we are talking only about the civilian population. And how many fighters of the Red Army, who did everything to liberate the city from the enemy's grip, remained forever in the damp and cold land? ..

The Siege of Leningrad is one of those monstrous crimes of Nazism, which should never leave the memory of humanity, despite the decades that have passed since the Great Patriotic War. Unfortunately, today there are enough of those who are determined not only to reinterpret historical facts, but also to completely erase the seemingly obvious things - about the feat of both Leningrad residents and warriors who made efforts to lift the blockade.

Strange arguments appear that it might be more expedient for the Soviet leadership to surrender the city on the Neva to the enemy and thereby "save" hundreds of thousands of lives of ordinary Soviet citizens. The arguments of such a plan are strange if only because it is one thing to talk about “expediency / inexpediency” sitting at a cup of coffee in a warm studio of some remote television station or a similar radio station, and it is quite another thing to make decisions in the conditions of an offensive of the enemy on all fronts, having real experience in military strategy and tactics. Only one fact, according to which, almost 900 days, Soviet forces held down large-scale (more than 700 thousand "bayonets") forces of the Nazi occupiers (including not only the Third Reich forces, but also Finland and Spain), preventing the enemy from transferring these forces on other areas and sectors of the front, inflicts on ideology "it is better to surrender than to defend" a crushing blow. Although the ultra-liberal Kompashka is ready to make other “arguments”, if only to work out its thirty pieces of silver and continue to make attempts to mud the feat of the Soviet soldiers.

From blockade statistics:

During the squeezing of the Hitlerite vice, over 102 thousands of incendiary and about 5 thousands of high-explosive aerial bombs were dropped on Leningrad. More than 150 thousand artillery shells exploded in the city.

However, neither the bombs, nor the shells could shake the spirit of the real Leningraders - people for whom the idea of ​​national opposition to the enemy, and the idea of ​​LIFE became the main idea. It was not for nothing that “Dear Life” was named the route on the ice of Lake Ladoga, with which more than 1,6 million tons of cargo was brought to the city, and almost a half million people were evacuated from the city. For many of Leningrad, it was “The Road of Life” that really gave them life, the meaning of which was felt in the days of the genocide of the city’s population by the Nazi criminals. Sometimes a small handful of bread crumbs, soaked in cold water, saved a man from death by starvation, found almost without movement in one of the city’s basements. An extra portion of glucose was pulled out literally from the next world exhausted from hunger and illness of Leningrad children. It hurts to look into the eyes of these children, captured by Leningrad photographers:




But it was they who survived all the horrors of the blockade, then they studied and worked - they built, rebuilding their hometown, and with it the whole country drained of by war.

Among the numerous documents with evidence of Nazi war crimes during the Nuremberg Tribunal was presented a tiny notebook Tanya Savicheva. In this book there are only nine pages, on each of which a Leningrad schoolgirl made short notes about the death of her relatives and friends. From the diary of Tanya Savicheva:

December 28 1941 of the year. Zhenya died ... Grandmother died 25 January 1942 th 17 March - Leka died, Uncle Vasya died 13 April. 10 May - Uncle Lyosha. Mama - May 15. Savichevs died. Everyone died. Only Tanya was left.

Lump in the throat...

Tanya herself died of exhaustion and tuberculosis in the summer of 1944, while in a boarding school. In 1981, in Shatki (Gorky region) - at the place of Tanya’s death and burial - a memorial was opened in memory of her - a girl who spoke in short words about the horrors of the Leningrad blockade.



Eternal memory to the people of Leningrad and the soldiers who fell during the liberation of the city from the deadly grip of Nazi ticks who died during the blockade! Eternal glory to those who have gone through terrible blockade days and nights and have become a real living symbol of disobedience and courage!
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sh12arzamas.ru, lesorubb.livejournal.com, swami.ru
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 27 January 2016 06: 21
    17
    Yes, in one poll on the "ear of the matzo" whether it was necessary to defend Leningrad or it was necessary to hand over the rope from the "ear of matzo" to these geeks, without exception.
    1. Finches
      Finches 27 January 2016 06: 30
      30
      In public transport, all the way between the announcements of the stops, we recite the poems of the blockade poets: Voronova, Berngolz ... - you go along the Nevsky and take it for your soul! Today I will traditionally lay flowers at the sign "Citizens! This side of the street is most dangerous during shelling," not far from the district headquarters ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 January 2016 06: 41
        -1
        Something I have questions.
        in which the city existed 872 days and nights
        Where have the 28 days gone from the authors of the article?
        And for the dead, the numbers were taken from Nuremberg and that is not accurate. There figures of 632 thousand appeared, although in fact more than 1.5 million people died.
        1. Telemon
          Telemon 27 January 2016 06: 59
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Something I have questions. in which the city existed 872 days and nights

          Do not ask you questions to those who survived all THIS. hi
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 January 2016 07: 01
            -3
            Quote: Telemont
            NOT to ask you questions

            Or maybe I shut up, and dear?
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            3. Telemon
              Telemon 27 January 2016 07: 21
              +4
              Your "power" to ban is your weakness. YOU coward hi NOT respected by me.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 27 January 2016 07: 29
                +6
                You do not think that the article is about something else. What does your painful pride have to do with it? Keep yourself in control, all the same, the topic is mournful. Not ashamed? Romanov, you can answer in another article, on a different topic.
                1. Telemon
                  Telemon 27 January 2016 07: 33
                  +3
                  Quote: avva2012
                  You do not think that the article is about something else. What does your painful pride have to do with it? Keep yourself in control, all the same, the topic is mournful. Not ashamed? Romanov, you can answer in another article, on a different topic.

                  So after all, the question about the blockade came ... Romanov read the first post, or so attacked "pride" ... My comment has been deleted, therefore YOU do not know the essence of everything. AHA.
                  1. avva2012
                    avva2012 27 January 2016 07: 39
                    +2
                    So after all, the question about the blockade came ... Romanov read the first post, or so attacked "pride" ... My comment has been deleted, therefore YOU do not know the essence of everything. AHA.

                    Well, some kind of kindergarten! Ah, he first started!
                    You are an adult. Well, what, you, indeed!
                    1. Telemon
                      Telemon 27 January 2016 08: 31
                      0
                      +++
                      Quote: avva2012
                      Well, some kind of kindergarten! Ah, he first started! You are an adult. Well what, you, really

                      laughing!
                2. Reserve officer
                  Reserve officer 27 January 2016 11: 49
                  16
                  My wife's parents are children of the besieged Leningrad.
                  According to them, according to their childhood impression, hunger is not a bomb, it is not visible, you just think about food all the time. People walk, do something, but then suddenly there is no person. Died. And shelling. You don’t know where it will fall. Near the commemorative plaque on Nevsky, warning that this side is most dangerous during the shelling, they still can’t pass without tears.
                  But survived. Let miraculously, but continued their race. In 1966, a daughter was born, my future wife, then three of our children - their grandchildren. Great-grandchildren will be soon.
                  Heroic generation. Today there are not so many of those Leningraders, blockade survivors. And it is painful that our rulers remember them only twice a year - on January 27 and May 9.
              2. PHANTOM-AS
                PHANTOM-AS 27 January 2016 07: 39
                13
                It seems that this is not only the day of military glory, but rather it is the day of the Glory of the Soviet Man!
                1. igordok
                  igordok 27 January 2016 11: 38
                  +2
                  American film 1943 about the blockade.

                  Yet

            4. jPilot
              jPilot 14 February 2016 09: 03
              0
              In this matter, this is a good idea. You are our liberal.
              I was especially pleased with the news that your friend Atalef, immediately everything fell into place.
          2. bort4145
            bort4145 27 January 2016 17: 36
            0
            Kipelov has a good song "Unconquered"
            A low bow to the defenders and residents of the besieged city of Leningrad.
      2. Sober
        Sober 27 January 2016 07: 33
        10
        Quote: Finches
        Today I will traditionally lay flowers at the sign "Citizens! This side of the street is most dangerous during shelling."

        Bow from all of us!
      3. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 27 January 2016 13: 49
        +2
        And I have the same sign on line 22 of V.O. saw...
        1. Finches
          Finches 27 January 2016 13: 58
          0
          Absolutely right! There is also on Lesnoy and Kalinin St. A couple in Kronstadt, in my opinion!
    2. Sober
      Sober 27 January 2016 07: 32
      +2
      There can be no two opinions here. Such scoundrels and scum must be burned out. There is no place for them on earth, poured with blood and sanctified by the suffering of so many people! Shut up your mouths, shut up your throats. There are not enough words to describe these "people"! ....................
      1. gudgeon
        gudgeon 27 January 2016 17: 26
        +2

        Glory to the heroes!
  2. bad
    bad 27 January 2016 06: 21
    14
    Day of Military Glory of Russia - Day of the complete liberation of the city of Leningrad from the blockade (1944 year)
    ..IMHO, as a descendant of my relatives who fought in the Second World War, I think this Day is Great .. like Stalingrad and the Kursk Bulge ..
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 27 January 2016 06: 26
    +9
    He came back to the Piskaryovskoye cemetery of LENINGRAD during the USSR ...
    with heavy thoughts and mood left from there.
    The price of VICTORY over the Nazis was too high ....
    the mass death of the civilian population is unacceptable ... but the Second World War was already talking about the very existence of our people and nothing could be corrected here.
    At least now I have concluded for myself ...
    nobody destroying and attacking our country will think about the safety of the lives of our women, children and the elderly, and therefore it is necessary to fight our enemies both internal and external in the most severe way, regardless of the cries of the so-called human rights defenders.

    Here's an interesting article on internal issues (about internal enemies)

    http://politobzor.net/show-79358-eho-moskvy-zakroet-kadyrov.html
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 27 January 2016 06: 41
      +6
      The first trip to Leningrad. As a schoolboy. Piskarevsky cemetery. This is where you understand what the blockade of Leningrad is.
    2. frolenkow
      frolenkow 27 January 2016 12: 08
      0
      100% agree! Very smart!
  4. Zomanus
    Zomanus 27 January 2016 06: 28
    +7
    Yeah, a terrible page of that war.
    And even more scary, then the memory of it was destroyed
    shortly after the war, the notorious "Leningrad affair".
    After all, then, along with museum archives, hundreds of evidence were destroyed
    participants in the blockade.
    Well, what is being discussed now is expediency,
    so these are peacetime children whose parents were dissidents.
    Here, even cutting the road to Murmansk and the coverage of Moscow from the north already speaks of
    the inadmissibility of such a step.
    Near mind people ...
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    2. Same lech
      Same lech 27 January 2016 06: 39
      12
      Well, what is being discussed now is expediency,
      so these are peacetime children whose parents were dissidents.


      If they tried to discuss it in those terrible years, I would put them to the wall myself ... and discuss the purposefulness of their existence for the benefit of the Nazis.

      In the photo after the Germans' artillery attack on civilians ... the streets of LENINGRAD were often so ....
      About 66 thousand people died from such shelling ...
      think about this figure .... after all, they were children, women full of life, hopes and plans for the future.
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 27 January 2016 06: 29
    13
    Sing, Comrade Combat
    On the glory of Leningrad!
    Words of His Valor
    For a whole world of greyamt.
    Fathers stood up for him
    The cannonade rattled
    And defended forever
    Immortal Leningrad.

    Chorus:
    Live, holy city
    Live, immortal city!
    Great warrior city
    Our beloved Leningrad!

    Shakes flags on the Neva
    Autumn nights wind.
    The night is clear, like a bright day,
    Floats over the city.
    After all, the city of Lenin is one
    All over the world.
    Who encroached on his honor,
    Will not find mercy!

    Chorus:
    Live, holy city
    Live, immortal city!
    Great warrior city
    Our beloved Leningrad!
    1943
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 27 January 2016 07: 36
      14
      Let's drink to those who commanded the companies
      Who was dying in the snow.
      Who made the way through swamps to Leningrad,
      Breaking the throat of the enemy!
    2. Dmitry Ukraine
      Dmitry Ukraine 27 January 2016 14: 39
      +2
      The feat of Leningrad, its inhabitants and defenders, we will never forget!

  6. kaplei
    kaplei 27 January 2016 06: 51
    12
    The war is terrible in all its manifestations ... On a gloomy, cold morning of 1995, I stood with other cadets of the Navy colleges in a cordon ... Seeing everything that was happening in the funeral laying of flowers and wreaths, under a piercing wind, we all then realized what price we won ! Eternal memory to all the fallen, surviving and victorious in that war!
    Of course, there were mistakes and obvious mistakes during the initial organization of defense ... But they survived.
  7. Masya masya
    Masya masya 27 January 2016 06: 54
    16
    In a distant, troubling war year,
    To the thunder of batteries in front of the country in sight.
    Stood with adults nearby
    The boys at the walls of Leningrad.

    An open notebook remained on the desk
    They didn’t finish writing,
    When piled on the city
    High-explosive bombs and hunger.

    And we will never forget with you
    How our peers took the fight.
    They were only twelve
    But they were Leningraders!
  8. avva2012
    avva2012 27 January 2016 07: 01
    11
    Plan "Ost".Hitler already in 1935 considered it necessary, namely, to thoroughly “exterminate the population, ... eliminate the millions of people of one low-grade race propagating like a parasite.” The most important steps to achieve this goal were described in detail in the decrees of Hitler, the Wehrmacht and the SS: - the killing of Jews (more than 500 thousand killed only by the "operational groups" of the SS), the commissars of the Red Army and all the functionaries of the state apparatus and the CPSU, the elimination of all resistance and the murder of anyone suspected of resistance (carried out by the SS and the Wehrmacht from the first days);- no supply of “non-chernozem zones” with food, this meant that all of Belarus and most of the North and central Russia were provinces closed to food supplies. Hermann Goering told 2 on May 1941 (!) Of the year: “There is no doubt that tens of millions of people will die of starvation if we take out everything necessary for ourselves from the country.” Merciless looting of fertile agricultural areas (carried out primarily by the Wehrmacht itself); - “relocation” in favor of German landowners and businessmen in the territory subject to German colonization, and the so-called brands and strong settlements (started and carried out in annexed western Poland, later in eastern Poland (Zamosc), in the so-called Black Sea regions (southern Ukraine and Crimea), in other regions of Ukraine and in Lithuania;- the destruction of large Soviet cities, primarily Leningrad and Stalingradas "hotbeds of Bolshevism." This is in the plans. To arrange a blockade, that is, to destroy the "non-black earth" by hunger, including.
    When all sorts of echoes say that the city had to be surrendered, under a plausible pretext, "there would be no victims", the hand stretches .... These geeks, all the same, must be deprived of citizenship, property acquired in the hated country and kicked over the hill.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 27 January 2016 16: 12
      +2
      Directive of the chief of staff of the naval forces of Germany on the destruction of Leningrad
      22 September 1941 of

      Berlin
      Secretly

      The future of the city of St. Petersburg

      1. In order to have clarity about the activities of the navy in the event of the capture or surrender of St. Petersburg, the chief of staff of the naval forces raised a question before the Supreme High Command of the armed forces about further military measures against this city.

      The results are hereby notified.

      2. The Fuhrer decided to erase the city of St. Petersburg from the lead of the earth. After the defeat of Soviet Russia, the continued existence of this largest settlement is of no interest. Finland likewise declared its disinterest in the existence of this city directly at its new borders.

      3. The previous requirements of the Navy for the preservation of shipbuilding, port and other structures important for the Navy are known to the Supreme High Command of the Armed Forces, but their satisfaction is not possible due to the general line adopted in relation to St. Petersburg.

      4. It is supposed to surround the city with a tight ring and, by shelling with artillery of all calibers and continuous bombing from the air, to level it.

      If, as a result of the situation created in the city, requests for surrender are made, they will be rejected, since the problems associated with the stay of the population in the city and its food supply cannot and should not be solved by us. In this war, waged for the right to exist, we are not interested in preserving at least part of the population.

      5. The main command of the naval forces will soon develop and issue a directive on changes related to the upcoming destruction of St. Petersburg in organizational or ongoing organizational and personnel events.

      If the command of the army group has any suggestions in this regard, they should be sent to the headquarters of the naval forces as soon as possible.

      GA RF, f. 7445, on. 2, d.166, yal. 312-314, translation from German
  9. Aleksander
    Aleksander 27 January 2016 07: 25
    10
    In total, 1,7 million people were evacuated (up to and including the 43 year). The first evacuation began a week after the outbreak of war-29 June tens of thousands of children were taken out. Moreover, a significant number of children were supposed to be placed in the places of their traditional summer vacation - in the south of the Leningrad Region, where fascist troops were rapidly approaching. Therefore, urgent measures had to be taken and about 170 thousand children were brought back to the city.
    On July 7, 1941, the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks approved a plan for the export of Leningrad together with the enterprises of 500 thousand family members of workers and employees. On August 10, the Leningrad City Executive Committee was asked to organize an additional evacuation of 400 thousand people, and 13 – 14 August — another 700 thousand. These large-scale plans could not be realized: on August 27 the railway connection between Leningrad and the country was interrupted. In total, according to the City Evacuation Commission, before the start of the land blockade, 488703 of the Leningrad and 147500 residents of the Baltic and Leningrad Region left the city.
    That is, a blockade was supposed and measures were taken. but the army failed, the railway was cut just two months after the outbreak of war.

    My relatives survived, everyone went to the army - women anti-aircraft gunners, men to the front and survived.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 27 January 2016 07: 36
      10
      My relatives survived, everyone went to the army - women anti-aircraft gunners, men to the front and survived.

      A deep bow to your family and all our ancestors! Thanks to them.
      To the liberation of the city: One circumstance overshadowed the joy of Leningraders and all Soviet people — the liberated city-museums (Peterhof, Tsarskoye Selo, Gatchina, etc.), the pride of our people, lay in ruins. Paintings, statues, furniture, even parquet and the decoration of whole rooms were either destroyed or taken to Germany (for example, the famous amber room from the Catherine Palace). The world-famous palaces turned into stables, etc., etc. These abuses against the shrines of Russian culture aroused a sense of hatred towards the enemy and thirst for revenge among Soviet people. Therefore, it is strange today to hear talk about restitution, reimbursement of Germany for the loss of works of culture, etc. These conversations and actions aimed at the free return to Germany of works of art that ended up in Russia during the Second World War offend the memory of hundreds of thousands of heroes who sacrificed their lives in particular, for preserving for posterity cultural values ​​located in Leningrad.
      The feat of the defenders and residents of Leningrad, who defended their city, their courage and dedication aroused admiration throughout the world. US President F. Roosevelt sent a special letter to the hero city “... in memory of his valiant warriors and his faithful men, women and children, who, being isolated by the invader from the rest of their people, ... successfully defended their beloved city ... and symbolized the undaunted spirit of the peoples of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics ... ".
      And they had people.
      1. ruskih
        ruskih 27 January 2016 10: 12
        12
        Greetings boys. And I never found my grandfather Ivan alive. I fought in Leningradskoye, died after being wounded already at home, and his brother died during the blockade at the plant there was such a small line "Place of residence: V.O., 17th line, d. 14, apt. 42. Date of death: February 1942. Place of burial: Smolenskoe cemetery. (Blockade, vol. 11) "And for this all my life ... But my mother was lucky to take her out. But he is still making supplies.
  10. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 January 2016 07: 37
    +7
    Damn, as I remember now, my grandmother died at the nose ... the grandson came to the apartment, and there all the drawers and cabinets were crammed with all kinds of canned goods. The woman survived the blockade, after the war she went to Rostov to her cousin because she lost the whole family in the blockade. I remember her — she constantly and most of all bought bread.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 27 January 2016 07: 55
      +6
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      She constantly and most of all bought bread.

      we also lived a blockade. Already in old age, due to illness, doctors advised her to give up bread. And she "I can refuse anything, but not bread."
  11. Mera joota
    Mera joota 27 January 2016 07: 51
    -12 qualifying.
    The blockade of Leningrad is one of those monstrous crimes of Nazism

    Well, then the city was blocked by two countries, Germany and Finland, why does the author consider only the Nazis a criminal?

    Strange arguments appear that, perhaps, it would be more expedient for the Soviet leadership to surrender the city on the Neva to the enemy and thereby "save" hundreds of thousands of lives of ordinary Soviet citizens.

    Absolute stupidity in the question posed. In fact, there was no blockade. From the east, the message was open all the time of the blockade, Lake Ladoga was ours. The question is that they could not properly organize the supply through Lake Ladoga without thereby allowing the horrors that occurred. This, by the way, refutes the established thesis that everything was in order with Stalin. It was necessary to arrange the delivery of food and other goods on a site only 30 km away. river transport in navigation and on ice in the winter. What did the SZRP have:
    In September, the North-Western River Shipping Company had 5 lake and 72 river tugboats, 29 lake and about 100 river barges on Volkhov and Ladoga.

    And how much cargo was delivered by this fleet in September?
    In total, about 20 thousand tons of cargo were delivered in September.

    129 barges transported 20 thousand tons! This is a penny. This is about nothing. Even if ONE barge carries 500 tons of cargo, then all 129 barges should have carried 64500 tons! If you tow barges at a speed of 5 km / h, then for the passage of 30 km. It takes only 6 hours.
    It was only necessary to organize the transportation of goods, loading, unloading and delivery to the city, if there is a railway at both points, this is not difficult, even if the port infrastructure is weak because food is transported in bags and they can be turned over manually.
    During this period, food consumption by the troops in the ring and the population of the city and region according to the decree of the Military Council of the Leningrad Front from October 1, 1941 was limited to the following daily consumption rates: 1000 tons of flour, 319 tons of cereals and pasta, 219 tons of sugar, 210 tons of meat, 112 tons of fat [26]. From October 1, according to the grocery card, serving dependents and children were supposed to receive 200 g of bread per person per day, workers and engineers of 400 g; from November 13 to 150 g and 300 g, respectively

    1900 tons of products per day, 129 barges could cover monthly needs at a time.
    In total, for the first navigation to Leningrad, 60 thousand tons of cargo were transported by water, of which 45 thousand tons of food.

    It is from September to the end of November. Almost three months.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 27 January 2016 08: 01
      +8
      Well, then the city was blocked by two countries, Germany and Finland, why does the author consider only the Nazis a criminal?

      And Finns are not Nazis, right?
      It was necessary to arrange the delivery of food and other goods on a site only 30 km away. river transport in navigation and on ice in the winter.

      If you tow barges at a speed of 5 km / h, then to pass the 30 km. Only 6 hours required.

      Under the shelling. To establish. Wonderful, you reason.
      1. Mera joota
        Mera joota 27 January 2016 08: 14
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: avva2012
        And Finns are not Nazis, right?

        What side are they Nazis? Which Finns were members of the NSDAP?
        Quote: avva2012
        Under the shelling. To establish. Wonderful, you reason.

        Not knowing history is the main problem of the current generation. What the hell are the shelling? What do you even know about "The Road to Life"? Location of ports on Lake Ladoga? Map as of 09.09.1941. have you seen? Or did the Germans fire barges with "calibers"? Make a pancake opening.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 27 January 2016 08: 33
          +6
          Quote: Mera Joota Not knowing history is the main problem of the current generation. What the hell are the shelling? What do you even know about "The Road to Life"? Location of ports on Lake Ladoga? Map as of 09.09.1941. have you seen? Or did the Germans fire barges with "calibers"? Make a pancake opening.

          On 8 of September 1941 of the year, the Germans captured Shlisselburg, cut off all land routes and the waterway along the Neva. The blockade of Leningrad began and Ladoga became the only way connecting the city with the mainland. On September 12, the delivery of goods to the besieged city began. Food was first brought to Volkhov, from it to Novaya Ladoga, and then transported on barges to the west coast to the Osinovets lighthouse. In the autumn of 1941, ice was not installed on Ladoga for a long time and the barges went along the lake, bypassing the ice sections. The first sleigh train went on 17 on November, delivering tons of flour to the city of 63, and soon the movement of cars began. The ice was still very fragile, and to prevent transport failure, some of the cargo was placed on a sleigh, which reduced pressure on the ice and allowed us to transport more products. The movement was organized in both directions along two routes located at a distance of 100 - 150 meters from each other. The Germans were constantly firing and bombing the highway, but they could not stop the movement. Truck drivers did not close the doors to jump in time if the car began to sink. In the first winter alone, about a thousand trucks went under the ice, and how many people died here is unknown.
          During the first siege winter, more than 550 thousand Leningraders and more than 35 thousand wounded were evacuated from Leningrad, 361 thousand tons of various cargoes were delivered to the city, including 262,5 thousand tons of food and about 32 thousand tons ammunition
          During the second navigation, more than 1 million tons of various cargoes were transported in both directions, and about 540 thousand people were evacuated from their cities.
          1. Mera joota
            Mera joota 27 January 2016 08: 50
            -8
            Quote: avva2012
            September 8, 1941 the Germans captured Shlisselburg,

            Why are there many words, but not of your origin? Write specifically from where the Germans could shell barges going along Ladoga? Give the distances, the parameters of the German field artillery.
            For those born in an armored train, I can report that the barges passed the route UNAVAILABLE for German artillery and in the dark, which arrives quite early in the fall. Those. The Germans could not provide any opposition to the delivery of goods by river transport, either by aviation or artillery.
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 27 January 2016 09: 16
              +5
              Quote: Mera Joota Why are there many words, not of your origin?

              I am not a witness or a historian. Words of those people who studied this problem. There is an article on VO: http://topwar.ru/2409-doroga-zhizni-blokadnogo-leningrada.html. References: Bazovsky B.N., Shumilov N.D. The most expensive. Political Publishing House. M., 1982
              Kazansky M.M. Hydrometeorological support of the Red Banner Baltic Fleet during the war years (in the book "The Red Banner Baltic Fleet in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945", Publishing House "Science", M., 1981).
              Kovalchuk V.M. Leningrad and the Big Land. Ed. "The science". L., 1975
              "On the Road of Life". Collection. Compiled by P. L. Bogdanov. Lenizdat. 1975 year
              "For those born in an armored train"funny swear. laughing
              The meaning, in general, I understand, but could not explain. I will bring to my collection.

              1. Mera joota
                Mera joota 27 January 2016 12: 27
                -3
                Quote: avva2012
                "For those born in an armored train", you swear funny

                army humor
                1. avva2012
                  avva2012 27 January 2016 12: 39
                  +5
                  army humor

                  He himself served in the army, but then there was no such expression. Ches word, for the first time I hear. Well, do not want as you want. Armored train, so armored train.
                  Carry and carry on.
            2. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 27 January 2016 17: 22
              +4
              Quote: Mera Joota
              Those. The Germans could not provide any opposition to the delivery of goods by river transport, either by aviation or artillery.

              Oh, how interesting. We started talking about the impossibility of working on barges with artillery - and suddenly conclusions about the impossibility of air raids. smile
              Well-known German and anti-adviser Zephyr as a source suitable?
              Even before the capture of Shlisselburg, the first victim of the Luftwaffe in Ladoga was a barge with evacuated from Karelia, which the Germans sunk on September 2 in the area of ​​Prokhorovskoy dacha. The next day, near the pier in the town of Novaya Ladoga, as a result of a raid, the Simferopol steamboat was seriously damaged.
              On September 5, German pilots managed to damage the gunboat Selemzha. From a close bomb explosion the port side and the deck were damaged, some of the equipment was out of order. The next day, during the evacuation of wounded Red Army soldiers and the population from Shlisselburg, German bombers attacked a caravan of seven barges and sent three of them to the bottom. In this case, hundreds of people died.
              On September 11, German planes bombed berths under construction, and on September 15 attacked the North-West-7 dredger. The steam engine was disabled on the ship, many crew members were injured. Nevertheless, the sailors managed to patch the holes, eliminate the damage and soon put the dredger into operation.
              On the same day - September 15 - the Luftwaffe reconnaissance aircraft discovered a caravan of three barges in Lake Ladoga approaching the west coast. From the airfield of Tirkovo, located south of the city of Luga, several Ju-87s from the III group of StG2 "Immelman" Hauptmann Steen, who sank two barges, were urgently sent.
              They managed to transmit a distress signal from the tugboat, and the Constructor patrol ship hastened to the scene of the tragedy. The inspector of the main political department of the Navy A.T. Karavaev, who was on it, recalled: “When we arrived at the Constructor in the bombing area, we got a terrible picture. The barges were broken. Frozen people held onto their debris and floating sacks of flour, and fascist planes fired machine guns from a low-flying machine gun ... The Constructor’s commandos opened fire on aircraft from all the cannons and coaxial anti-aircraft machine guns. The Nazis flew away. "
              After that, the guard team began rescue operations. Big waves prevented the launching of boats and the approach to the wreckage of barges. Then the sailors began to tie lifebuoys to hemp cables and throw them into the midst of people. Rarely fell, therefore the people continued to sink. Exhausted people one by one disappeared into the dark abyss. As a result, only a few people were saved. The next morning, part of the bodies of the dead, along with bags of flour, washed ashore 10 km west of Novaya Ladoga.
              On September 16, Luftwaffe aircraft simultaneously with the attacks of the Baltic Fleet ships in the Gulf of Finland sank a KM-12 patrol boat on Lake Ladoga, as well as one of the barges with an evacuated population, which was pulled by the Orel tugboat.
        2. bort4145
          bort4145 27 January 2016 17: 57
          +3
          How simple it is for you - 129 barges and everything is in order ...
          The population of the city at the beginning of the war, 3 million, was taken out for the entire time of the evacuation of 1,5mln. Add the number of troops, the need for supplies other than food - soldiers, uniforms, ammunition (or components). Artillery, Nazi aircraft - drowned the barges, and yet it still needed to be assembled for a besieged city in a country that frantically fought on all fronts. Then
          The first winter in besieged Leningrad was severe. The thermometer column fell to the mark - 32,1 ° C. The average temperature of the month was - 18,7 ° C. The city did not even record the usual winter thaws. In April 1942, the snow cover in the city reached 52 cm. Negative air temperature was in Leningrad for more than six monthsholding out until May inclusive. No heating in houses, the sewerage and water supply were disconnected. Work at factories and factories ceased. The main source of heat in the houses was the “potbelly stove” stove. It burned everything that burned, including books and furniture.

          150 thousand shells
          During the blockade, Leningrad was constantly subjected to shelling, of which there were especially many in September and October of the 1941 year. Aviation made several raids per day - at the beginning and at the end of the working day. In total, during the blockade on Leningrad, 150 thousand shells were fired and more than 107 thousand incendiary and high-explosive bombs were dropped. 3 thousands of buildings were destroyed by shells, and more than 7 thousand were damaged. About a thousand enterprises were disabled.
    2. Boos
      Boos 27 January 2016 08: 17
      +5
      Not only food was brought to Leningrad, but also the supply of troops engaged in defense, and therefore could not prevent hunger. I believe that everything has been done that is possible ...
      1. Mera joota
        Mera joota 27 January 2016 08: 28
        -14 qualifying.
        Quote: Boos
        Not only products were brought to Leningrad, but also the supply of troops engaged in defense

        For those born in the train, I repeat:
        In total, for the first navigation to Leningrad, 60 thousand tons of cargo were transported by water, of which 45 thousand tons of food.

        TOTAL 60 thousand tons! Do you understand the meaning of the word TOTAL?
        1. Antropos
          Antropos 27 January 2016 12: 13
          11
          Your first post on "possibilities" isn't yours either. The gloom of Solonin has been shitting about this for a long time at all corners. Although, perhaps, you are the darkness of corned beef.
          Already, as several years, all these nonsense have been answered. Moreover, as arguments are given the indestructible arguments in the form of a locality and cards of those times. Ladoga is not navigable even now, especially then. Only on artificial fairways along the coast. There were no roads and marinas on the shore from the side of the Great Land. Therefore, it was immediately impossible to ensure the transfer of hundreds of thousands of tons to the coast and their crossing. Arranging railways or roads at that time and in those places is not a trivial task. Plus, the mandatory opposition of the enemy in the form of bombing and shelling will make all construction meaningless.
          In short, as in Tolstoy: it was smooth on paper. But humanitarian liberalism makes no sense in logistics and military affairs joyfully swinging a bogeyman of pseudo-mathematical calculations.
          1. Mera joota
            Mera joota 27 January 2016 12: 54
            -7
            Quote: Anthropos
            Your first post on "possibilities" isn't yours either.

            I do not claim authorship.
            Quote: Anthropos
            Moreover, as arguments are given the indestructible arguments in the form of a locality and cards of those times. Ladoga is not navigable even now, especially then.

            Ladoga is not navigable ... But the fleet worked on it ... Great. Ladoga’s problem was not in shipping, on the river the barges after 1,5 m. They carry dragging, normally. Shitty port infrastructure and shallow water near the coast, but there are (and were) dredgers and judging by memoirs, the problem of deepening was solved in September.
            Quote: Anthropos
            Only on artificial fairways along the coast.

            Why are you repeating other people's nonsense? On the lakes, shallow depths are right on the coast, not a single sane person will drag a caravan on the lake along the coast when it is possible directly along the normal depth.
            A small route, 29 km long, ran from Kobona to Osinovets; large, 150 km long, went from Novaya Ladoga to Osinovets. On the large highway, transportation was carried out by convoys, and on the small highway by single vessels. In order to reduce the effectiveness of enemy aircraft, convoys left the ports in the evening to pass the highway at night. The movement of vessels along the small highway was also carried out mainly in the dark. Both tracks were well marked with buoys, milestones and other hydrographic equipment.
            1. Your friend
              Your friend 27 January 2016 13: 37
              10
              Stop writing nonsense. Read at least 900 days. Blockade of Leningrad »Salisbury. The Germans operated artillery, aircraft, on Ladoga, they had a flotilla of ships. Do you know the weather conditions in Ladoga? Do you know how ice rises there? In courses that nothing is being done by magic, the infrastructure for the transfer had to be created practically from scratch. Are you aware that at that time there was a war and the Germans were at Moscow? Where did you get such a shitty connoisseur?
              1. Andrey77
                Andrey77 27 January 2016 20: 11
                -4
                The war did not start yesterday. And the battle of Moscow is also not June 22. If the mustachioed clicked the erysipelas for 3 (!) Months, then yes. Only he snapped even earlier.
                1. Your friend
                  Your friend 28 January 2016 10: 44
                  +2
                  Quote: Andrey77
                  The war did not start yesterday. And the battle of Moscow is also not June 22. If the mustachioed clicked the erysipelas for 3 (!) Months, then yes. Only he snapped even earlier.

                  Ischo one stratech and a connoisseur of "mustachioed". You should be ashamed to write nonsense.
            2. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 27 January 2016 17: 01
              +3
              Quote: Mera Joota
              Ladoga is not navigable ... But the fleet worked on it ... Great. Ladoga’s problem was not in shipping, on the river the barges after 1,5 m. They carry dragging, normally. Shitty port infrastructure and shallow water near the coast, but there are (and were) dredgers and judging by memoirs, the problem of deepening was solved in September.

              You are wrong. From the Leningrad side, the problem of shallow depths on the approach to the same Osinovets was solved only in the summer of 1942. And before that, it was necessary either to partially unload the barges before entering the port, or to use "force pushing", when the tug "with a running strike" pushed the barge through the sandbank ( which clearly did not go to the benefit of the barge hull). In the port itself, the depth was such that the barge that landed on the ground after the raid was unloaded by divers without supplying air to the spacesuits (the spacesuits were used only for protection from water).
              Quote: Mera Joota
              Why are you repeating other people's nonsense? On the lakes, shallow depths are right on the coast, not a single sane person will drag a caravan on the lake along the coast when it is possible directly along the normal depth.

              Not a single normal person will drag a caravan along Ladoga if there is an opportunity to get around it along the canal. That’s how they went before the war — that is why there were only 29 lake barges (7 of them working) on ​​the lake and 5 tugboats.
            3. Aleksander
              Aleksander 27 January 2016 22: 55
              +2
              Quote: Mera Joota
              Ladoga is not navigable ... But the fleet worked on it ... Great. Ladoga's problem was not in shipping


              About shipping Ladoga:
              Building Ladoga Canal began in the year 1719, under Peter I [1]. At that time, the desire of Tsar Peter to trade with Europe in the Baltic required the expansion of communication routes, especially water. One of the sections of the Vyshnevolotsk waterway connecting the Volga with the Baltic Sea passed through Lake Ladoga. This site was one of the most difficult and dangerous: frequent gales on the lake caused the death of hundreds of ships with cargo.

              The channel would be dug along the edge of the coast by land From Shlisselburg to Novaya Ladoga .. And it would seem, why dig when a huge lake is at 100 meters? belay
          2. Mera joota
            Mera joota 27 January 2016 13: 16
            -7
            Quote: Anthropos
            There were no roads and marinas on the shore from the side of the Great Land

            Well hello, Volkhov, New Ladoga.
            On August 30, 1941, the State Defense Committee adopted its first resolution on this issue No. 604 “On the transportation of goods for Leningrad,” which outlined concrete measures for organizing water transportation on Lake Ladoga. In particular, the People's Commissars of the Navy and River Fleets were asked to allocate 75 lake barges with a carrying capacity of 1000 tons each and 25 tugs and provide daily cruising 12 barges with cargo from the pier Lodeynoye Pole to Leningrad. It was proposed to allocate one tanker and 8 bulk barges for the transportation of fuel. In addition, in case of need, it was proposed to immediately prepare the unloading front in the area of ​​Art. Ladoga lake.
            1. Antropos
              Antropos 27 January 2016 14: 02
              +4
              To argue with the stubborn - there will not be enough batteries.
              From the decree to the result - the abyss. Only in the summer were 43 able to bring supply to mind.
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 27 January 2016 16: 51
      +9
      Quote: Mera Joota
      From the east, the message was open all the time of the blockade, Lake Ladoga was ours. The question is that they could not properly organize the supply through Lake Ladoga without thereby allowing the horrors that occurred. This, by the way, refutes the established thesis that everything was in order with Stalin. It was necessary to arrange the delivery of food and other goods on a site only 30 km away. river transport in navigation and on ice in the winter.

      Well, yes, nothing at all - in the absence of an equipped port from Leningrad, organize the supply of a multi-million city and front.
      Or have you forgotten that the river port of Leningrad is located on the Neva and the Germans are between it and Ladoga?
      Quote: Mera Joota
      In September, the North-Western River Shipping Company had 5 lake and 72 river tugboats, 29 lake and about 100 river barges on Volkhov and Ladoga.

      Oh, why did you conveniently cut off the quote? Don't want to quote further?
      But Of the five lake tugs, only three were used to transport goods until the end of navigation. The tugboat “Voima” was thrown ashore by a storm on September 18, and the “Buoy” was busy laying an underwater telephone cable for a long time to establish a stable connection with Leningrad. Moreover, those few ships because of the great air threat, only one or two barges were towed.
      Out of 29 lake wooden barges, only 7 were in good condition, including 2 oil. The rest could be used only in favorable weather, with excitement no more than 3-4 points. But even all the available lake barges were clearly not enough. It was necessary to attract also river transportations. In total, 43 wooden dry cargo, 4 metal and 2 wooden oil barges participated in the transportation. 20 of them, by technical condition, did not have permission to swim in the lake at all.

      In total, we have 49 barges, 42 of which can only be walked in good weather. Let me remind you that in the courtyard - September-November with the famous Ladoga storms.
      And on these 49 barges - 3 special tugboats of the lake class. And 20 river, which is also scary to let out to Ladoga.

      Anticipating your indignation "how did these 129 barges go before," I inform you that in peacetime the barges did not sail along Ladoga. They walked along the Ladoga canals laid along the coast - precisely in order not to get into a storm. During the war, these channels were cut by the Germans.
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 27 January 2016 17: 25
      +4
      By the way, from the same Zefirova:
      Ladoga water communication in itself was extreme. The lake is the largest in Europe and one of the deepest reservoirs of this type on the planet. Even medieval traders and travelers Ladoga was considered a dangerous and fatal place. Storms with waves five to six meters high are everyday routine.
      The biggest tragedy occurred on the night of September 17, when the old tug “Eagle” with pulls pulled a wooden barge number 725, crowded with refugees and the military. According to the most conservative estimates, more than 1200 people sat on a half-rotten barge. At the beginning of the journey, a storm broke out on the lake, and in the area of ​​Severnaya Goloveshka banks, the old barge hull could not withstand the shock of the waves and broke. The barge began to gradually sink into the water. Passengers rushed overboard one by one and immediately disappeared. Some tried to escape by swimming, but also perished. Cold, dark waves took more and more victims. People’s despair reached the point that one officer who had evacuated with his family first shot his daughter and wife, and then shot himself. In addition, at the height of the disaster, a raid by German aviation began. As a result of the close bomb explosions, the barge received additional damage. The cabin and part of the upper deck broke off from it. Nevertheless, the remaining skeleton in a submerged state continued on its way to the salvific eastern Ladoga coast.
      On the same night on September 17, the Kozelsk, Voima and Michurin steamers sank, huge waves threw the Ulyanovsk steamer onto the stones. These were by no means isolated cases. Storms and bombings disabled one ship after another. In total two weeks after the start of water transportation, only nine lake and thirteen river barges remained afloat.
    5. MrK
      MrK 27 January 2016 18: 43
      +2
      Quote: Mera Joota
      1900 tons of products per day, 129 barges could cover monthly needs at a time.

      Again this born vertically crawled out.
  12. Oladushkin
    Oladushkin 27 January 2016 08: 24
    12
    My grandmother is a blockade. Iron man by nature, and so she still DOESN’T RECOGNIZE the loaf of bread. For her, forever, black bread is BREAD, and white is so, some kind of misunderstanding. Once, as a child, I accidentally (accidentally!) Dropped a piece of brown bread on the floor, so I heard a lot of bad epithets in full. I still remember trying to instill them in children. I also included white bread as BREAD. I love my grandmother and respect.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 27 January 2016 20: 15
      +2
      In Leningrad there is bread and rolls. Ask for white bread in St. Petersburg ...
  13. misterwulf
    misterwulf 27 January 2016 08: 30
    +7
    Hooray! Sevastopol also congratulates. I read that, unlike Sevastopol, Leningrad did not represent such strategic importance (except perhaps the largest industrial center). But! huge population and symbol. Hitler did not initially prioritize the capture of Leningrad. The Germans simply did not have the experience of capturing large cities with fighting and street fighting. Stalingrad then confirmed this. They decided to lock in over 2 million people and either starve them to death, or - so that they voluntarily left the City .... straight to the concentration camp. Then, through some engineering manipulations with explosives, the city will be flooded.

    Happy Holiday! Leningraders!
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 27 January 2016 08: 43
      +2
      Quote: misterwulf The Germans simply did not have the experience of capturing large cities with fighting and street fighting. Stalingrad then confirmed this.

      And, some comrades on the site, claim that Zhukov was not a very commander. Ours, they took the cities by storm! Storming Berlin: casualties of 27 649 killed 1 Army at the beginning of the operation had 433 T-34 and 64 IS-2 tanks, as well as 212 self-propelled guns. In the period from April 16 to May 2 of 1945, 197 tanks and 35 self-propelled guns were irretrievably lost. The losses of the 2 Tank Army were similar. The total irreparable loss of which amounted to 31% of the number of tanks and self-propelled guns at the beginning of the operation. Losses in the city streets amounted to 16% of the number of tank fleets and self-propelled guns at the beginning of the operation.
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 27 January 2016 13: 21
        +3
        Compare with the assault on Konigsberg commanded by Marshal Vasilevsky. From our side - 137 thousand people, the enemy - 130 thousand people, losses from our side amounted to 3700 people. Less than 3%. And this is in the fortified city, which was originally built as a fortress. The commandant of Konigsberg, General von Lyash, assured that they would defend for four years, and surrendered in four days.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 27 January 2016 17: 12
          +1
          Quote: Igor V
          Compare with the assault on Konigsberg commanded by Marshal Vasilevsky. From our side - 137 thousand people, the enemy - 130 thousand people, losses from our side amounted to 3700 people. Less than 3%. And this is in the fortified city, which was originally built as a fortress.

          Just don’t forget that only the Konigsberg garrison opposed Vasilevsky. Which since January 30 has been in the circle of encirclement.
          And Zhukov and Konev had to first break through the defenses of the German cadre units, then surround Berlin, and only then deal with its garrison and units retreating to the city, at the same time repelling unblocking attacks from the outside of the ring and attempts to escape from the inside (of the same 9 army). One blow from the Hermann Goering division to the flank of Konev was worth what ...

          So for comparison with Berlin, it is better to take our losses for the entire East Prussian operation. And this is 584 people (of which 778 people were killed).
          1. Igor V
            Igor V 27 January 2016 18: 10
            0
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Just don’t forget that only the Konigsberg garrison opposed Vasilevsky. Which since January 30 has been in the circle of encirclement.

            There was no complete encirclement, even during the assault, landing barges were coming from Pillau. The Konigsberg assault is a separate operation of the Second World War and must be considered separately.
            I do not detract from the dignity of other military leaders, I emphasize the talent of A.M. Vasilevsky.
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 27 January 2016 18: 33
              0
              Quote: Igor V
              There was no complete encirclement, even during the assault, landing barges were coming from Pillau.

              Land - was. Unlike Berlin, whose encirclement was completed almost before capitulation.
              1. ruskih
                ruskih 27 January 2016 19: 20
                +4
                Sorry to get in. It’s just that when they were looking for the place of the death of my mother’s elder brother, I came across an article if you would be interested: http://www.moskvam.ru/publications/publication_885.htmlThe truth about the assault on Koenigsberg
                Of course, inconsistencies exist, for example, he died in a battle on February 14, 1945 near Ottilinhof, and according to other sources, the battles were there from January 30.01 to February 07.02, 1945, although he met those killed in the battle and on February 15 there. The remains from there were transferred to the mass grave of Tsvetkovo, where 1080 people were buried, including my mother’s older brother.
                1. Igor V
                  Igor V 27 January 2016 20: 16
                  +1
                  Eternal memory to your uncle, thanks to him we now live here. As for the inconsistencies, some skirmishes continued in those places after the Victory.
                2. Igor V
                  Igor V 27 January 2016 20: 35
                  +2
                  As for Kretinin’s work, he is a professor, but his conclusions are quite controversial. He considers only shooters and tankers, although everyone knows that there were gunners, sappers, chemists (flamethrowers), signalmen, etc. in the assault squads. . And where to throw away, for example, technicians, minders, gunsmiths, tankers, riggers and all other military personnel that ensured sorties. Kretinin went the wrong way and even misinterprets German data, although such historians have everything German - the standard.
                  1. ruskih
                    ruskih 27 January 2016 20: 46
                    +2
                    Thank. Eternal memory to all the fallen in that terrible war. I expressed my thought a little incorrectly. I cited this article as one of the points of view, and in it I also found inconsistencies. With what I agree, it is that there is not all the data, or destroyed, or is still classified on the one and the other.
    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 27 January 2016 09: 24
      +2
      Quote: misterwulf
      I read that, unlike Sevastopol, Leningrad did not represent such strategic importance (except perhaps the largest industrial center)

      Well hello ... The loss of Leningrad is the loss of the whole of Balt. fleet, this is a real threat to the entire north and, accordingly, the northern (shortest and fastest) Lendlis route.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 27 January 2016 18: 35
        +1
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Well hello ... The loss of Leningrad is the loss of the whole of Balt. fleet, this is a real threat to the entire north and, accordingly, the northern (shortest and fastest) Lendlis route.

        Not only. The loss of Leningrad is also the release of all forces blocking and attacking him. Which oh how would the Germans come in handy near Moscow.
      2. misterwulf
        misterwulf 27 January 2016 20: 01
        +1
        The loss of Leningrad and Kronstadt would solve a lot ... only for the Baltic Fleet. With the capture of Tal (l) in (n) and the Nazis blocked the entire bay with minefields and anti-submarine networks. The BF was trapped and the artillery of large ships on land targets remained its benefit.
        By the way, very effective!
        Have you ever wondered why, after Finland left the war, Alexander Marinesko started exactly from Finnish Turku on his S-13 (behind minefields and nets)?
  14. avva2012
    avva2012 27 January 2016 08: 48
    +2
    And, if, they started talking about history, where you can go without a historian.
  15. Kerch
    Kerch 27 January 2016 09: 34
    +4
    I read that after breaking the blockade in Leningrad cats were imported en masse to fight rats and mice
  16. Yura
    Yura 27 January 2016 09: 34
    +7
    Eternal memory to the dead.
  17. e2e4
    e2e4 27 January 2016 10: 10
    14
    In September - October 1941, my grandfather, as part of the NOG (Nevsky Operational Group) troops, participated in crossing the Neva (to the left bank, "Nevsky Piglet"), where he fought until April 1942 as part of the 168th Infantry Division of 402 regiments. This was the most difficult time, when it was almost impossible to get reinforcements on time: pontoons and ferries from the right bank were destroyed by German aircraft, and almost every meter was shot at a “spot” from well-fortified German positions. After some time, a “false” crossing was organized. The grandfather during the period of stay on the “patch” was twice shell-shocked, received severe frostbite, until he lost consciousness (according to his recollections, he lay in the dugout for about a day, and only by pure chance, having regained consciousness, was not taken out like a dead person), severe starvation of the body from starvation, severe injury, and in March or April 1942, together with the surviving defenders of the “patch” (from the so-called “first cast” of three Siberian divisions - from his words) he was transferred to the right bank of the Neva in the village area Nevskaya Dubrovka. After treatment, he continued to fight in the 260 rifle regiment of the Leningrad Front until the blockade was completely lifted. Eternal glory to the Leningraders and the defenders of the city!
  18. Reeds
    Reeds 27 January 2016 10: 12
    +7
    At one time he wrote a term paper on the blockade, and when he read the information, it was very scary, but at the same time, such pride that they survived in inhuman conditions, survived!
  19. triglav
    triglav 27 January 2016 10: 22
    +5
    Eternal memory to the fallen. And eternal rest to them ...
  20. Tiger4
    Tiger4 27 January 2016 10: 32
    10
    My grandfather died in the blockade (in February 42), the father of the blockade (he was still a 4-5 year old kid) ... Where my grandfather is buried, I know from his father’s words, but the place is not known! Great-grandmother drove him on a sled to the victims' cemetery area on January 9th and just left there. Eternal memory to the fallen.
    1. Antropos
      Antropos 27 January 2016 12: 20
      +8
      My grandfather died in April 42. He was buried at Piskaryovka. Shortly before, in January, the 2-year-old father and grandmother were taken out along the Road of Life.
  21. Irinaspb
    Irinaspb 27 January 2016 11: 32
    +9
    Everyone in the blockade survived. My father’s brother just died. And then from a fragment of a shell, and not from hunger.
    Great-grandfather died after the war. Stomach cancer. The blockade affected health.
    But the father’s sister after lifting the blockade managed to overeat. And she died from a gut twist (it’s like that, I can confuse not a medic) Our family was lucky in the blockade, there were families in which all died
  22. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 27 January 2016 13: 13
    +3
    A terrible and Heroic Page of the History of my Motherland !!! A bow to all the fallen and the survivors! and our memory!
  23. Your friend
    Your friend 27 January 2016 13: 29
    +2
    Quote: Mera Joota
    Quote: avva2012
    And Finns are not Nazis, right?

    What side are they Nazis? Which Finns were members of the NSDAP?
    Quote: avva2012
    Under the shelling. To establish. Wonderful, you reason.

    Not knowing history is the main problem of the current generation. What the hell are the shelling? What do you even know about "The Road to Life"? Location of ports on Lake Ladoga? Map as of 09.09.1941. have you seen? Or did the Germans fire barges with "calibers"? Make a pancake opening.

    Do you think the Germans had no planes? That really is not knowledge of the history of the trouble of our generation.
  24. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 27 January 2016 15: 00
    +1
    Quote: Mera Joota



    Will is your colleague, but you are saying something wrong ...
  25. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 27 January 2016 15: 03
    +6
    Eternal memory to the fallen Leningraders !!! Nobody is forgotten and nothing is forgotten !!!

    There are Blockade Readings in St. Petersburg. A variety of people participate. Read, read, read ... Several hours in a row a contest takes place. People remember, people know, people cherish memory. I participated and will be again.

    Siege bread

    We often buy various bread ---
    Krajushki, chaabatu il baguette.
    But it will be scary if the children do not recognize
    About the one with sawdust, Siege Bread!

    And in a full life we ​​should live
    For at least one day, eating bread
    And cut bread into norms, into slices,
    To understand how important this is to everyone!

    Blockade --- endless thanks!
    You survived, you saved the city!
    We know: You stood the enemies to death !!!
    You are the best of the citizens of the whole Earth !!!

    This is my poem. The second time I write it here.
  26. PKK
    PKK 27 January 2016 15: 19
    -10 qualifying.
    Voroshilov would not allow the blockade of Leningrad. This traitor Zhukov caved in under Hitler.
  27. SlavaP
    SlavaP 27 January 2016 16: 20
    +7
    Low bow and blessed memory to the defenders and the blockade. My beloved city survived and won. And already on a completely personal level: my wife's great-grandfather left the house during the blockade and did not return. He disappeared, how, when - it is not known. My grandmother's brother worked at Putilovskoye, joined the militia and also died, how, when? There is only a name left on a common memorial plaque at the plant (I hope the fucking "liberals" did not get there) and our Memory ...
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  29. Koshak
    Koshak 27 January 2016 17: 31
    +2


    If you meet us at a holiday
    Some old friends
    All that is dear to us,
    The song sounds more fun.

    Come on, comrades, let's take a look at the table
    Higher glasses of wine
    Let’s drink our free homeland,
    Let's drink and pour it again.

    Stand up, comrades, drink to the guard
    She has no equal courage.
    Our toast to Stalin! Our toast to the party!
    Our toast to the banner of victory!

    Let's drink seething for the Russian daring
    For the heroic people!
    Let’s drink for our mighty army,
    Let's drink to the valiant fleet!

    Love and appreciate a gentle affection,
    Weasel of fathers and mothers!
    So raise a full cup,
    Let's drink to our children!

    Let our wish toast end
    Finish with the enemy forever!
    With the song of victory reborn again
    Our native country!
  30. Koshak
    Koshak 27 January 2016 17: 33
    +6
    Volkhov table
    Music: I.Lyuban Lyrics: P. Shubin


    Rarely, friends, we have to meet,
    But when it happened,
    Recall what happened, and drink, as usual,
    How it happened in Russia!

    Let the Leningrad family be with us
    Sitting next to the table.
    Recall how Russian soldier power
    I drove the German for Tikhvin!

    Let's drink to those who spend weeks long
    In the frozen dugouts lay
    Fought in Ladoga, fought in Volkhov,
    Not a step back.

    Let's drink to those who commanded the companies
    Who was dying in the snow,
    Who made their way to Leningrad swamps
    Throat breaking the enemy.

    They will be forever glorified in tradition
    Under the machine-gun blizzard
    Our bayonets at the heights of Sinyavin,
    Our shelves under Mgoy.

    We get up and clink glasses, standing, we
    -The brotherhood of friends fighting,
    Let's drink for the courage of the fallen heroes
    Let's drink to a meeting of the living!



    1943
  31. Koshak
    Koshak 27 January 2016 17: 38
    +2
    And my grandfather defended Leningrad, as part of the labor army. Happy holiday, fellow citizens, fellow soldiers! Let it be History for our children, grandchildren and all descendants!
  32. viktor561
    viktor561 27 January 2016 18: 38
    +6
    Some bastards are now screaming that it was necessary to surrender Leningrad - my mother survived the blockade and thanks that she did not surrender - she is 93 years old
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 27 January 2016 19: 14
      0
      We will not surrender. PETER NOBODY managed to take. None at all. Although the Swedes had a moment. Unconquered. They took Moscow, Peter didn’t.
  33. Andrey77
    Andrey77 27 January 2016 19: 05
    0
    I have a question. Leningrad, not the Brest Fortress. Brest with border guards can be surrounded. Leningrad - no. Suddenly. But Leningrad is a production facility, the only base + repair fleet. How could this happen? Divisions were withdrawn from Leningrad? By whom and why? Stalin would be in the cell and interrogate ...
  34. nikpwolf
    nikpwolf 27 January 2016 20: 42
    +7
    Today, in Samara, they raised, said words, bowed their heads and drank for the Leningraders. Thanks you. Thank you for living. You showed me how to love and protect your homeland. You have set priorities in my life and provided guidance. You, along with the heroes of the Brest Fortress, Stalingrad, the Defense of Moscow, Rzhev, Sevastopol, Odessa, Kursk, Orel, and many others called me to serve in the army, to go to the Caucasus. You demanded that I be at least somehow worthy of you. You, not in word, but in deed, showed me what it means to be a Man and a Citizen of a Great Country. I'm trying to. Thanks you.
  35. Atigay
    Atigay 27 January 2016 22: 08
    +2
    Uh, people! Be treated! It's about the USSR! A little time will pass and you will completely forget these four letters. Treat memory and conscience!
  36. Stilet
    Stilet 27 January 2016 22: 23
    +2
    Our people accepted such torment and suffering, which none of the other peoples could have endured. And our people endured, stood, could. I bow to you Leningraders, with all my heart and with all my heart!
  37. Lord blacwood
    Lord blacwood 27 January 2016 22: 51
    +1
    Hitler had an excellent army, but he did not take into account that by destroying the Russian people, he would cause hatred for his army. This is one of the reasons for the existence of partisans. Our people opposed the enemy not only because he is an enemy, but because the enemy treated him as "savages", "subhumans" and so on. The blockade shows it.
  38. 8140
    8140 27 January 2016 22: 56
    +1
    I remember, I'm proud. I didn’t forgive.
    Imagine in my city Natsik gather in handfuls and in crowds arrange a procession. Under the black and yellow flag. Where the authorities look, at least dig something.
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  40. Irinaspb
    Irinaspb 28 January 2016 10: 44
    +2


    The song is dedicated to the besieged Leningrad.
    People who died and survived.
    Everlasting memory