The formula for privatization "success": "We sell, while cheap and under sanctions!"

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In the Russian cabinet, with the start of 2016, they began to talk more actively about how to manage to fill the state budget more effectively in the current economic conditions. The discussions are certainly correct, although perhaps a bit late. But as you know better late than never Another thing: is it better? ..

Why suddenly there is such a skeptical question to those discussions that representatives of the domestic cabinet of ministers and a number of experts invited by them “from outside” (including representatives of the HSE, the Russian Academy of National Economy and the Public Service under the President of the Russian Federation, etc.) held about the filling of the Russian budget? The fact is that the main focus for filling the state budget with “real money” has been chosen (attention!) Privatization.

This word alone in most ordinary Russians causes allergic reactions and, to put it mildly, not the most joyful memories. In memory emerges, the “bright image” of young Anatoly Borisovich Chubais against the background of a poster with a “voucher”. Anatoly Borisovich, then, I remember, declared to the Russians that each “Privileged” check “guarantees” one, or even two, “Volga” “to the snout”. As a result, the majority of citizens for two "Volga", I'm sorry, the snout did not come out ...

This time, prominent economic experts are proposing to cut the assets of the largest Russian companies and banks (with large state participation) into pieces, and then sell off the weighty pieces. Allegedly, even now it will give some powerful impetus to the Russian economy. Well, yes, yes ... At the same time, it has already been announced that certain “large private investors” will become buyers of the assets of Rosneft, Sberbank and VTB. Allegedly, these investors are ready to invest in Russia, so that the Russian budget will literally overflow with income.

The formula for privatization "success": "We sell, while cheap and under sanctions!"


After such statements in television reports from the international economic forum in Davos, Switzerland, William Browder's smiling face flashed, as if hinting ... And she hinted at exactly who is ready to "invest" Russia today, acquiring the assets of the largest state-owned companies from her.

What, in this case, are those economists who have an alternative point of view of the government on how to fill the state budget with the necessary funds? They are worried that only, to put it mildly, a stupid business manager (if such a person can be called a business manager) can afford to sell a part of his property to some kind good uncle at a time when the prices for this property have dropped to levels close to the cost record. last time.

Take at least Rosneft. To sell even a part of its shareholding at the price of oil below 30 dollars per barrel and at the price of the company's shares "below the plinth" - what's this? Who in general could come up with such an "amazing" idea? After all, it is the same as to declare readiness to sell a house on the river bank and look for buyers at the moment when the flood has covered this house right at the windows ... Buyers can be found quickly, because the price will be actually worthless. There will be - they will get for a pittance, and then, when the “flood” subsides, they will get rid of the “house” - the asset is already at a completely different price, having previously brought its appearance into a salable form. And who will ultimately benefit from such privatization? There are many options that can be presented, but one thing is clear: it is certainly not the state that will win, and certainly not ordinary Russian citizens ...

Moreover, one should not forget that the need for the privatization of Rosneft, Sberbank and VTB is said against the background that economic sanctions apply to these companies themselves. Sorry generously, but ideas about selling the largest Russian assets against the background of existing Western sanctions (and large blocks of shares may well fall into the hands of those who imposed sanctions against Russian state-owned companies, directly or indirectly) do not even look like mismanagement, but rather resemble sabotage. There is even a question that someone might call unsubstantiated conspiracy: isn’t it for the purpose of sanctions against the Russian Federation that it was introduced that large assets that play a crucial role in the economy of a huge country be sold for a pittance? Hopefully, this is nothing more than conspiracy.

And now is the time to submit a statement by the Deputy Minister of Finance of Russia Alexei Moiseyev, published "Interfax":
Selling banks under sanctions is hard. But it turned out that there are certain options.


From this statement it becomes clear that in the so-called economic bloc there is not even considered the question of what is now economically meaningless to sell state-owned units in large companies. The main question is: how to get ready and quickly sell what is now extremely low in price - to the delight of the buyer ...

It should be noted that at this moment in the economic “valiant” block they are going to sell 19,5% of Rosneft shares and about 10% of VTB shares. And if in these two cases, after the implementation of the indicated percent of the mass of shares, the state will have at least some controlling stakes in hands, then it is even more fun with Sberbank. Sberbank has already been privatized at the root. The Central Bank still has a controlling stake in Sberbank after the last stage of privatization in 2012. It turned out that the stage was not the last, and therefore any new sale of Sberbank shares to private “investors” will automatically lead to the fact that the state will not have a controlling stake.

Does this hinder transactions from the point of view of the Ministry of Economic Development? Obviously not. To understand this, it is worthwhile to cite a truly outstanding statement by Mr. Ulyukayev (on privatization):
We have a hundred opportunities to resolve this issue. There is also a domestic demand for these assets. Sanctions, of course, are a nuisance. But there are technical possibilities even under the condition of the sanctions regime to conduct privatization deals.


It turns out that they are ready to sell, despite the fact that such a deal in the budget will only bring "glass beads" ... Ah yes, well done! You give new awards to economic gurus, because they care about the state, the people! ..
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  1. +25
    27 January 2016 06: 23
    What in this case are those economists who have an alternative government point of view on how to fill the state budget with the necessary funds?

    Again a rhetorical question.
    Whatever they do, but not the welfare of the state and its citizens.
    1. +16
      27 January 2016 06: 46
      Nobody has yet canceled the state property cut ... It's time.
      1. +28
        27 January 2016 07: 41
        The robbers of Russia in power offer another robbery of the state and people !!!
        When will our people wake up and begin to demand the resignation of all this liberal-economic Government, headed by D. Medvedev?
        It is impossible to demand the resignation of President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin, who heads all this liberal power, elected to the presidency, but people can demand the resignation of the appointed D. Medvedev.
        Join the demands for the resignation of the Government of D. Medvedev. https://www.opentown.org/news/20362/
        1. Riv
          +16
          27 January 2016 07: 51
          Well, you suggest some absurdities. This is an untouchable reserve! This is how the rating starts to fall at the GDP, so the government resigns and sets off. And again, the rating will be under the ceiling.
        2. +9
          27 January 2016 08: 21
          Quote: vladimirZ
          The thieves of Russia in power offer another robbery of the state and people !!

          In general (in my opinion) all this privatization will look something like this.
          Due to the sanctions and restrictions on lending from abroad and the peculiarities of the islands in the Russian Federation, in general, only Russians or Russian companies can privatize.
          There is no money in the west, so only Russian banks will lend.
          Private banks will not take such risks upon themselves, and where will the money come from? Therefore, the state will lend. banks - such as Sberbank.
          It’s unlikely that he will have enough of his assets for this - therefore he will receive help or state guarantees from the budget.
          Well, people who can afford to buy privatized parts of state corporations are approximately known, and it seems to me. Mr. Pupkin from Uryupinsk will definitely not be in this pool.
          In general, what we approximately (more precisely Russia) will receive at the exit
          Members of the cooperative Lake. at a minimum (and the fact that state corporations from the point of view of capitalization are now at a minimum value, no one doubts) - redeem for private use, for state. facilities , the most expensive assets in Russia (although from the point of view of profitability, I would not call them that), it is worth remembering, of course. that the state bought all these assets from private traders and foreigners at the maximum price * (I'm talking about the same Rosneft).
          This is, in general, a business in Putinsky.
          Buy for expensive, sell - for cheap - blame the West for everything.
          1. +7
            27 January 2016 09: 35
            Dear, you are right, but the owner of this property, assets, can sell to anyone what is being done now, even in spite of sanctions, there are other trickier schemes in Russia, and money from the West, only one government proves all this he wants to keep only the management of financial flows, everything else somehow, and most importantly, no one bears responsibility
            1. +22
              27 January 2016 11: 05
              Quote: 31rus
              all this proves only one government wants to keep only the management of financial flows, everything else somehow, and most importantly, who does not bear responsibility

              Liberals feel the impending "kapets" of their entire economic model, and therefore they are in a hurry to snatch what is fatter and sell to anyone what cannot be mastered. It's probably time to launch night funnels at the addresses of especially "active ideologists of privatization" as in 1937.
              A little not about privatization, but the essence is ... it's time to crush speculators
              1. +9
                27 January 2016 12: 01
                More and more people are demanding the resignation of the liberal Government of D. Medvedev. Here is the appeal of the deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation.
                The appeal of the deputies of the State Duma, who made a proposal on no confidence in the government of the Russian Federation.
                “We are addressing you in connection with our initiative to resign the current government of Russia.
                Although the current cabinet is formed by President V.V. Putin in May 2012, he continues the policy pursued for more than ten years. Head of Government D.A. Medvedev previously served as First Deputy Prime Minister and four years as President of the Russian Federation. Consequently, he and his cabinet are fully responsible for the ongoing socio-economic course and its results.

                We believe that the government has led the country to the brink of a severe systemic crisis.
                ...
                The Russian government has every reason to be dismissed. ...

                We appeal for support to citizens of the country, labor collectives, veterans and youth, representatives of science and education, health and culture, the business world and employees of the state apparatus.
                We urge you to carefully discuss our initiative and express your own requirements. Based on your opinion, we will submit to the State Duma a motivated proposal to express no confidence in the government of the Russian Federation.
                G.A. Zyuganov.
                http://kprf.ru/dep/gosduma/statements/120453.html
                1. -2
                  27 January 2016 12: 11
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  Appeal of the State Duma deputies who made a proposal of no confidence in the government of the Russian Federation. "We are addressing you in connection with our initiative to resign the current government of Russia. Although the current cabinet of ministers was formed by President V.V. Putin in May 2012, it continues its policy for over ten years

                  Strange, ten years ago, Putin was the chairman of the government.

                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  . Head of Government D.A. Medvedev previously served as First Deputy Prime Minister and four years as President of the Russian Federation. Consequently, he and his cabinet are fully responsible for the ongoing socio-economic course and its results.

                  Well, Putin, as always, has nothing to do with it.
                  1. +7
                    27 January 2016 12: 19
                    Well, Putin, as always, has nothing to do with it.
                    - atalef (7)

                    Putin "with". He is the organizer and creator of the current Government of the Russian Federation D. Medvedev. But it is impossible to demand the resignation of the elected President of Russia, for many reasons, including foreign policy. He is elected by the people.
                    But the demand for the resignation of the appointed Government, changes in the economic course - the practice of many states. This right should be used by the people of Russia.
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                3. +2
                  27 January 2016 12: 11
                  The objective economic situation in Russia cannot be heard on Russian TV. Who is interested in this issue, look and listen to the analysis of the Communist Party, in the person of one of its leaders V. Rashkin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAq3XCpBiNI
                  1. +1
                    27 January 2016 13: 38
                    Absolutely agree!
                4. +1
                  27 January 2016 16: 53
                  The desire for privatization from the government testifies to their managerial impotence with money-grubbing. The question is: why do you need such a brainless and thieving government?
                5. -1
                  27 January 2016 23: 47
                  Press Service of the Central Committee of the Communist Party
                  2013-07-08 14:10 (update: 2014-12-25 18:50) - the barrel organ has been playing for a long time, but things are still there, i.e. no sense in this call for 2,5 years
          2. +3
            27 January 2016 09: 36
            Quote: atalef
            There is no money in the west, so only Russian banks will lend.
            Buy for expensive, sell - for cheap - blame the West for everything.

            How do you determine the ownership of banks - by their place of residence or by who they actually belong to?
            At the place of stay - Russia, but according to their affiliation - abroad (read the law on the Central Bank) and their sanctions against Russia do not apply to them, incl. your conclusions are not true - the West is really interested in buying up Russia for cheap.
            1. -2
              27 January 2016 10: 39
              Quote: Boris55
              How do you determine the ownership of banks - by their place of residence or by who they actually belong to?

              Of course, belonging
              Quote: Boris55
              At the place of stay - Russia, but according to their affiliation - abroad (read the law on the Central Bank) and their sanctions against Russia do not apply to them

              Which ones?
              Quote: Boris55
              your conclusions are not true - the West is really interested in buying up Russia for cheap

              Are you interested in buying everything by cheap, only how will the west do it?
              I'm not talking about the legislation of the Russian Federation, we will touch on the simplest thing. let's say, where can I get 20 billion bucks (as an example) to buy something in Russia?
              In suitcases across the border to carry grandmas? You will not be able to carry out ordinary transactions.
              Anyway, what kind of beast is the West? What is it like ? The owner will be called - WEST?
              Do not write nonsense.
              1. +1
                27 January 2016 12: 36
                Dear, it’s very simple, through funds, through joint ventures, where one shop is opened, and the whole plant is bought up, through laws, the thought will adopt them, by the way, I have to disperse the government as an authority for a long time, as anti-people’s, anti-state, all the laws come from there more thoughts than from the government
          3. +10
            27 January 2016 09: 36
            Well, ordinary people will be heated again. How long?
            1. -9
              27 January 2016 10: 21
              The sale of shares of Rosneft VTB and Sberbank - ordinary people vryatli this will heat up.
              1. +2
                27 January 2016 22: 04
                These thieves will heat their hands for sure, but they wanted to spit about the people. GDP should be determined with whom he is, if with these then there is nothing to fool the rest of the head.
              2. 0
                27 January 2016 22: 04
                These thieves will heat their hands for sure, but they wanted to spit about the people. GDP should be determined with whom he is, if with these then there is nothing to fool the rest of the head.
          4. -7
            27 January 2016 09: 52
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: vladimirZ
            The thieves of Russia in power offer another robbery of the state and people !!

            In general (in my opinion) all this privatization will look something like this.
            Due to the sanctions and restrictions on lending from abroad and the peculiarities of the islands in the Russian Federation, in general, only Russians or Russian companies can privatize.
            There is no money in the west, so only Russian banks will lend.
            Private banks will not take such risks upon themselves, and where will the money come from? Therefore, the state will lend. banks - such as Sberbank.
            It’s unlikely that he will have enough of his assets for this - therefore he will receive help or state guarantees from the budget.
            Well, people who can afford to buy privatized parts of state corporations are approximately known, and it seems to me. Mr. Pupkin from Uryupinsk will definitely not be in this pool.
            In general, what we approximately (more precisely Russia) will receive at the exit
            Members of the cooperative Lake. at a minimum (and the fact that state corporations from the point of view of capitalization are now at a minimum value, no one doubts) - redeem for private use, for state. facilities , the most expensive assets in Russia (although from the point of view of profitability, I would not call them that), it is worth remembering, of course. that the state bought all these assets from private traders and foreigners at the maximum price * (I'm talking about the same Rosneft).
            This is, in general, a business in Putinsky.
            Buy for expensive, sell - for cheap - blame the West for everything.


            One might think that citizen Zuckerman from Haifa has the opportunity to privatize some large asset in Israel at the expense of the state. The ruling elites of any country will never in their lives allow a person to come to their "possessions" from outside, all the more they will never share with him. In general, "Putin's business and the Ozero cooperative" are already anachronisms, update the manuals. It was clearly stated in the article that proposals for privatization are being distributed, it does not say that this is a resolved issue, so there is no need to run ahead of the locomotive. And I also want to say, no matter how bad the economy is now, in recent years the government has not made a single one, I stress not a single strategic mistake! What did it cost in the wake of the crisis to buy out the depreciated shares of strategic enterprises from foreign investors and return them under state control? There are tactical mistakes, I do not argue, but strategic ones that would have made themselves felt in a couple of years have not yet been made.
            1. +6
              27 January 2016 10: 52
              Quote: yushch
              You might think a citizen of Zuckerman from Haifa has the opportunity to privatize at the expense of the state some major asset in Israel

              At the expense of the state - definitely not.
              With private lending - of course. What happened more than once.
              Quote: yushch
              The ruling elites of any country will never in their lives allow a person to come to their "possessions" from outside, especially since they will never share with him

              Privatization of Tnuva (state concern in Israel) - went to the Chinese, they gave the best price
              Quote: yushch
              In general, "Putin's business and the Ozero cooperative" are already anachronisms, update the manuals.

              All completely unknown EA today in Russia people
              The founders of the consumer cooperative were 8 people: [1]
              Smirnov, Vladimir Alekseevich (chairman of the cooperative) - in 2000 he headed the Products Supply Enterprise of the Administrative Department of the President of the Russian Federation, in 2002 - Techsnabexport OJSC (state monopolist in the field of supplies for the nuclear industry).
              Putin, Vladimir Vladimirovich - from 2000 to 2008 and from 2012 to the present, President of the Russian Federation.
              Yakunin, Vladimir Ivanovich - from 2000 Deputy Minister of Transport, in 2005-2015 - President of the state monopoly of Russian Railways. Son Victor - Director of Legal Affairs of the Russian branch of Gunvor.
              Kovalchuk, Yuri Valentinovich - the largest co-owner and chairman of the board of directors of Rossiya Bank, co-owner of the National Media Group (Channel One, Channel Five, Izvestia, Russian News Service). Since 2009, his son Boris has been the head of the state monopolist Inter RAO UES.
              Shamalov, Nikolay Terentyevich - co-owner of Rossiya Bank, representative in St. Petersburg of Siemens Medical Solutions; in 2010 there were reports that through the offshore companies controlled by him, Shamalov was collecting money from entrepreneurs for the “Putin Palace” near Gelendzhik [3]. Since 2003, his eldest son, Yuri, has been the head of the largest non-state pension fund Gazfond in Russia (which owns Gazprombank), the youngest son, Kirill, is SIBUR’s vice president of business administrative support, according to data published by Bloomberg [4], later confirmed by Reuters with reference to A. I. Akimov [5] - son-in-law of Vladimir Putin [6].
              Myachin, Victor Evgenievich - in 1999-2004. Director General of Rossiya Bank; since 2004, head of the Abros investment company.
              Fursenko, Sergey Alexandrovich - President of the National Media Group, in 2010-2012. President of the Russian Football Union.
              Fursenko, Andrei Alexandrovich - in 2004-2012, Minister of Education and Science of the Russian Federation, since 2012, Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation

              It’s impossible to imagine what geniuses this Lake united
              Quote: yushch
              And I want to say, no matter how bad the economy is now, in recent years the government has not made a single one, I emphasize not a single strategic mistake!

              The government of Medvedev / Putin?
              None ?
              Boldly good
              1. 0
                27 January 2016 14: 25
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: yushch
                You might think a citizen of Zuckerman from Haifa has the opportunity to privatize at the expense of the state some major asset in Israel

                At the expense of the state - definitely not.
                With private lending - of course. What happened more than once.

                Israel has a completely different specificity.
                Citizen Zuckerman can buy whatever he wants from Israeli assets if he was born in Haifa, but if he was born in Poland, for example, or even worse in Russia, they will only be sold to him that does not have strategic significance.
                Here the TNUVA concern is just one of those - sweet, processed cheeses, cottage cheese, sour cream, yogurt.
                If everything is as simple as you say, then China would buy in Israel all military and high-tech production, the media, ports and airfields.
              2. +1
                27 January 2016 16: 22
                For Atalef.
                I would like specific examples, not emoticons. Well, if you take a closer look at the relatives of those who hold power in Israel, and indeed in any country, it will randomly turn out that these same relatives are successful businessmen and of course no one provides them with patronage. You probably heard about the scam that Biden’s wife turned and raped the awesome profit from the Pentagon almost out of the blue? Therefore, do not la la, otherwise the BBC will crush. (BBC is a car, not your prime). laughing
          5. +2
            27 January 2016 11: 32
            Nah ... and the neighbor, because the farthest one is near and the naah ... who has come to you, will rejoice. This is the basic law of capitalism and our government, and in the role of the neighbor it is always its own people.
          6. 0
            27 January 2016 12: 07
            Quote: atalef
            Buy for expensive, sell - for cheap - blame the West for everything.
            We are building capitalism. Everything should be in private hands! For government money, government officials will buy government property. But will they be able to "keep" the property in their hands if they cease to be state officials? The current ones will be replaced by new ones, and they will also want to eat - they will declare privatization illegal and return everything (by the court!) To state property, and then privatize it again. There are a lot of examples in Russia. But no matter how "they twist" everything will become the property of "business sharks" - international corporations.
            1. -2
              27 January 2016 12: 15
              Quote: fif21
              We are building capitalism. Everything should be in private hands!

              Like a rotting West
              Quote: fif21
              For government money, government officials will buy state property

              Well this is a Russian feature
              Quote: fif21
              But will they be able to "keep" the property in their hands if they cease to be state officials?

              The mafia is immortal.
              Yes, and how? The tandem has not yet been canceled.
              After 7 years, Putin will tell you that there is no one better than Medvedev, and the people will vote for him again
              Quote: fif21
              New ones will replace the current ones, and they will also want to eat, they will declare privatization illegal and return everything (in court!) To state property, and then privatize it again.

              Well, each ruler must have his own Khodorkovsky
              Quote: fif21
              But no matter how "twisted" everything will become the property of "business sharks" - international corporations.

              International. Well, what packages of Russian property do Western corporations own?
              1. +1
                27 January 2016 14: 42
                Quote: atalef
                Well, each ruler must have his own Khodorkovsky
                Berezovsky, Abramovich ... And the Zhirik or Zyuganov will come to power and the list of immigrants of multimillionaires will continue. And if the military comes to power ???? And if the proletariat gets tired of wearing its chains and gets banged like in Ukraine ????? Anecdote-Russian and German cross the road with one-way traffic. A German asks a Russian - why are you looking at both right and left, is the road one-way? This is Russia comrade, I would also look up!
                1. 0
                  27 January 2016 15: 04
                  Quote: fif21
                  Berezovsky, Abramovich

                  Not . namely Khodorkovsky. from which you can pick up and share on friends

                  Quote: fif21
                  And Zhirik or Zyuganov will come to power and the list of immigrants of multimillionaires will continue.

                  You vibrate
                  Quote: fif21
                  And if the proletariat gets tired of wearing their chains and gets banged like in Ukraine ??

                  then it may be possible to heal humanly
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          9. +1
            27 January 2016 13: 18
            And there is. Mortgage Auctions 2.0 Version
            True, you still forgot to count the money that our oligarchs kept abroad. Under pressure from sanctions and the threat of confiscation, "patriots" are forced to return the money back, with the greatest pressure exerted on Putin's friends. So they are preparing an exclusive offer in the form of cheaper shares of our fuel and financial giants.
        3. 0
          27 January 2016 23: 37
          I followed your link from my mobile, just news, I was not allowed to vote, and at the bottom they wrote "Thank you, your vote is accepted" is a very strange resource
      2. +1
        27 January 2016 15: 16
        But what is not clear, the standard capitalist slogan is to take away from the poor and divide among the rich, because state property is actually the property of the people, they will not calm down until they take it in their hands .. after this, the opposite slogan will gain popularity among the people.
      3. 0
        28 January 2016 04: 10
        Vodka is still worth a penny.
    2. 0
      27 January 2016 10: 19
      It will be necessary to acquire shares of Rosneft.
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      2. +1
        27 January 2016 13: 23
        So buy now who's stopping. Only a lot you get on your hard-earned money? And someone is lucky enough to get a loan to buy state shares from the state itself. That's who you can envy.
        1. 0
          27 January 2016 17: 20
          Well, the purchase of 120000 shares I can afford to buy.
  2. +21
    27 January 2016 06: 24
    Well, it’s not in vain that Sechin led Rosneft for so long, it was time to become his shareholder. The Central Bank will give another loan to support some SMP bank or Gazprombank, at the traditional 0,57% per annum, and they, in turn, will credit Comrade Sechin or his unexpectedly talented children, well, they won’t forget about Rotenbergs. Well then you understand. . . It is true where in this scheme the additional income is unclear, but we will sell our national treasure to unhealthy new shareholders.
    1. +5
      27 January 2016 07: 19
      One gets the idea that it would be very profitable for the Europeans to lift the sanctions now, on the low ruble exchange rate it will be possible to buy up everything that our "effective" managers have not yet pulled apart.
    2. +3
      27 January 2016 08: 23
      Quote: Nikolai K
      It’s true where in this scheme the additional income is unclear, but we will sell our national property to an unhealthy new shareholders

      And they will not be, maybe financing will be all the same through the state.
      Sechin will borrow from Sberbank, and when he does not want or cannot repay the loan, they will simply forgive him.
      1. +2
        27 January 2016 12: 24
        Quote: atalef
        And they will not be, maybe financing will be all the same through the state.
        Yes! There will be no income for the state from privatization. Rosneft will be "pumped up" with money from the fund-box (NWF) A controlling stake will be bought out with this money, and the money will be returned from the profit of private Rosneft. Many enterprises in Russia were privatized under this scheme. Learn and shudder wassat
        1. +1
          27 January 2016 12: 31
          Quote: fif21
          Yes! There will be no income for the state from privatization. Rosneft will be "pumped up" with money from the fund-box (NWF) A controlling stake will be bought out with this money, and the money will be returned from the profit of private Rosneft. According to this scheme, many enterprises in Russia were privatized.

          In the decaying west, this is not real in principle and leads straight to the bunks.
          Quote: fif21
          Learn and shudder

          No, thanks hi
          1. +2
            27 January 2016 13: 30
            We raised the issue of suspending the voting right for treasury shares (that is, shares bought back by the enterprise itself and which are managed by the company’s management), especially since this is a well-established international practice. But the bill was not allowed to vote in the State Duma.
            Still, for example, Surgutneftegas itself owns a controlling stake in Surgutneftegas directly, or through pension funds and other subsidiaries. It turns out that there are shareholders of the company, but it is not they who make the decisions, but the management, which controls the majority of the votes and can literally transfer its director’s chair even by inheritance. There are still many treasury shares on Lukoil’s balance sheet, although not everything is started up there.
          2. +2
            27 January 2016 13: 53
            Quote: atalef
            In the decaying west, this is not real in principle and leads straight to the bunks.
            Well then in the west! wassat On your bunk, on our Canary wassat
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    3. +1
      27 January 2016 10: 54
      Quote: Nikolai K
      Well, it’s not in vain that Sechin led Rosneft for so long, it’s time to become a shareholder

      He is already a shareholder, apparently will become the owner.
      Was Khodorkovsky, will be - Sechin
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  3. +3
    27 January 2016 06: 31
    And she wanted to become the ruler of the sea. Well, our oligarchs have a lot of money. Yes, and the state has, judging by the statements of Kudrin. I just want it cheap now.
  4. +7
    27 January 2016 06: 38
    Anatoly Borisovich then, I recall, told the Russians that each privatization check “guarantees” one or even two “Volga” “on the snout”... Yes ... it sounded like in O. Henry's novel "Caroli and Cabbage" ... every inhabitant of free Anchuria will have a gramophone and a zoo!
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    2. 0
      27 January 2016 13: 34
      Well, it depends on how you manage your voucher. Those who invested in Gazprom shares at regional check auctions could really buy a car at the peak price.
  5. +6
    27 January 2016 06: 47
    We have a hundred opportunities to resolve this issue. There is also a domestic demand for these assets. Sanctions, of course, are a nuisance. But there are technical possibilities even under the condition of the sanctions regime to conduct privatization deals.


    100 capabilities, but you must take advantage of the one hundred and first - Mr. Ulyukaev resigned !!!
  6. +8
    27 January 2016 06: 48
    yes "well done"! You give new rewards to the economic guru, because they care about the state, about the people! .. And where does the Guarantor look, what is silent? These creatures will sell their mother, and even more so. The guarantor has spoken a lot over the past week, I would like to know his opinion. This is essentially a sale of Russia.
    1. +9
      27 January 2016 07: 13
      Quote: asiat_61
      . And where does the Guarantor look, what is silent? These creatures will sell their mother, and even more so. The guarantor has said a lot over the past week, I would like to know his opinion. This is essentially a sale of Russia.

      On this resource it is not comme il faut to remember that the Guarantor has a lot of poor orphan friends from the Ozero cooperative.
      Well, how can your friends not cheat?
    2. +6
      27 January 2016 07: 57
      .This is essentially a sale of Russia.
      In order to raise the rating.
    3. +2
      27 January 2016 10: 00
      . And where does the Guarantor look, what is silent?
      -----------------------------------
      Where it is necessary to go there and is silent: =) In general, recently he spoke about privatized and abandoned farmland, like, it is necessary to take away from careless landowners. Only did not specify to whom he would give it and what we would sow? Although, I think, "to whom to give" for him will not rust, many friends.
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    5. 0
      27 January 2016 13: 36
      The guarantor does not just look, he controls the process. Moreover, the crisis is in the yard and the support of his Varangians is very important to him. Since you can’t make money on oil, you have to hand out the last.
  7. +5
    27 January 2016 06: 51
    A feeling has already been entrenched that the economic bloc of the government creates favorable conditions for a social explosion. That is, it does what the West has been dreaming of for many years - a change of power in Russia. What is it? Stupidity or deliberate action? Question to the structures that are required to professionally deal with such issues.
    1. 0
      27 January 2016 06: 58
      There will be no explosion.
      Events in Ukraine scared both of these.
      1. +11
        27 January 2016 08: 01
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        Events in Ukraine scared both of these.

        Oh, don't tell me! They may have scared and scared, but they didn't teach anything! And if "power is changed," then it is better to immediately change the system to a socialist one. And then this liberal swamp, where devils are found, will sell the entire industry to foreign investors, who (ha-ha) are so eager to replenish the state budget of the Russian Federation.
        1. -4
          27 January 2016 10: 32
          We have almost all of our industry in private hands, and some industries and factories were built with the participation of foreign investors - the more foreign investors there are, the easier it will be to export products. Power cannot be changed by force - for this there is an article in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, and those who want to crank it up will be cut out.
    2. +6
      27 January 2016 10: 29
      The economic block of the government is absolutely from a high bell tower to everything. If Rosneft declared that they were even tolerant of 15 bucks per barrel, the question arises about the cost price. Well, let it be ten. When oil cost ~ $ 100, the duty was about 50%, I specially looked at the statistics by dates, and this level (plus or minus) remained the same last year. Take into account taxes, transportation, depreciation, salaries, etc., the rate of return is still more than 200%. And why think about manufacturing? The pipe would have to be "thrown" somewhere to flow, that's the problem.
      And what kind of production can there be when the government itself is only engaged in speculative operations? And it does it badly. The whole question is which "securities" to buy now in order to sell later. And all the "advanced economists" just say where to invest now in order to take with a profit later. Buy shares - sell shares, buy precious metals - sell precious metals, buy real estate - sell (rent) real estate ... That's it! No more thoughts! One speculation! Well, there is also a business - to slip your own offices under the budget money, laying an exorbitant level of profitability, and uninteresting works are put up for a competition with such conditions that the contractor will then be left without pants. Oh yes! You can also chop off a piece of the road in an interesting direction, put a slag baum there and collect money for travel.
      About foreign investment. They both came and went. They opened the enterprise, did not like it - they closed the enterprise. Yes, and these enterprises are organized most often in order to make a profit and take it out in various forms.
      Oh well, I don’t even want to talk ...
      1. 0
        27 January 2016 17: 39
        And where does the government - it does not engage in production in its jurisdiction, can only promote private business, and it can do without state support - speculators, as they are everywhere - all over the world. Foreign investments will only go away when their investments are fully paid off — no, they did — they opened and closed immediately — the main thing is that the taxes be transferred, and in what forms they will take out their profits, this should not bother us.
    3. +1
      27 January 2016 10: 33
      Honestly, what was being discussed there, after all the perestroika privatizations, it is clear even to the old women at the entrance. This is what confuses. Correctly say who will give them?
      So it looks more like a smokescreen in front of the West ... they say, we have complete belay Do not rush, we are about to fall apart. Do you have time?
    4. 0
      27 January 2016 13: 37
      Stupidity, greed and cowardice.
  8. +11
    27 January 2016 06: 52
    Yes, now Rosneft is idling, a little higher than profitability. Yes, you can sell EVERYTHING, only in good years it was Rosneft that was the main "sponsor" of the budget. And so all the money will flow into the wrong hands. And the funds from the sale are nonsense, they will again saw it , flow like sand through your fingers! hi
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 17: 41
      This is when Rosneft was the "main sponsor of the budget"?
  9. +7
    27 January 2016 06: 52
    Dear, the privatization process has not been stopped by anyone since the 90s, the state property is being sold regularly, so presenting it as some kind of an ordinary event is not right, the railway, energy system, civil you know the sea and air fleet, which you yourself led to. I just want to draw attention to the events in Ukraine and Moldova, show the fish rots from the head
  10. +4
    27 January 2016 06: 58
    Such proposals should not even come to mind, but they are being seriously discussed at the forum and in the government, and now this alone makes me very uncomfortable, because this is a daring visual indicator of the promiscuity of the 5th column and its strength. Sad comrades.
  11. +4
    27 January 2016 06: 58
    This Ulyukaev, a bad person, will surrender us at the first skucher.
    1. +2
      27 January 2016 09: 23
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      This Ulyukaev, a bad person, will surrender us at the first skucher.

      You’re swimming fine. Almost all the top bosses will surrender. So if one of them accidentally dies, you don’t need to worry.
  12. +16
    27 January 2016 07: 15
    Bravo!
    How many reviews, and not one in favor of Twitter rulers!
    And the situation is only getting worse, judging therefore:
    The fact is that the main direction for filling the state budget with "real money" was chosen (attention!) Privatization.

    What, the temporary workers still decided to throw (and leave) the country, tearing apart the remains?
    Or did the puppeteers team come - TIME !?
    Or was the people so stupid that they would not say anything again?
    Actually, it is no secret that the capital market in Russia is already 70-80% foreign, and here the residues are poured.
    It turns out that the current twitter ministers have gotten a hold of it, you are not open to opening up to boost the economy, you need to WORK, build factories, raise agriculture, raise the level of education, and improve healthcare.
    Apparently, they do not know how or do not want to.
    If you don’t know how, you just need to free the seats with confiscation, and if you don’t want to (who was interested in where the term “enemies of the people” came from?) Then a jigsaw (kaylo, shovel, hoe, etc.) into the hands and construction sites of the century, too, of course with confiscation.
    YES NO WORDS!
    Ask ... all that generations have earned !!! Moreover, they made money during the Soviet time, so unloved by these miscarriages.
    Those. Stalin rebuilt the “near” tyrant twice (!) After the most difficult wars, raised the economy to the second (the same as the first!), And the current liberal elite has pockets, robbed the country and is ready to merge it completely !?
    The people, as always, were silent ... ?!
    WHO else believes TWITTER-GOVERNMENT? AU_U_U ...
  13. +6
    27 January 2016 07: 20
    The faithful road power is creeping back and forth at 90 - !!! you look at it and they clone Boris Neprosykhsevich! But what about 25 million jobs by some people promised to the country is yet another noodle on your ears?
  14. +1
    27 January 2016 08: 15
    The pertinent question is: "Are you ... like, or an enemy of the people?" The answer is unequivocal. Enemy of the people.
  15. +4
    27 January 2016 08: 26
    From this statement it becomes clear that in the so-called economic bloc there is not even considered the question of what is now economically meaningless to sell state-owned units in large companies. The main question is: how to get ready and quickly sell what is now extremely low in price - to the delight of the buyer ...


    And the "golden dream" of Grefs and others like them will come true. The work on the fulfillment of such "dreams", begun in the 90s, with the active work of the government of "effective managers" at the present time, will finally lead to the appearance of representatives of our Motherland in the "Bilbelger" club. "Peremoga however". belay
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    2. 0
      27 January 2016 13: 41
      Gref is just a pawn, a financier who counts money. Believe me, those who are closer to the body will receive the main profit.
  16. +8
    27 January 2016 08: 38
    The President of Russia recently announced that "The ideas of socialism were correct ...". Why would this statement from one of the restorers of capitalism in Russia? In this matter, for me, Vladimir Putin is on a par with Yeltsin, Gaidar, Chubais ... and others. Is he aware of the intentions to privatize? And now is the time to privatize "cheaply" For their own, for the "family".
  17. +5
    27 January 2016 08: 47
    Instead of nationalizing, they are trying to privatize.
    Theater of the absurd!
    Here's what needs to be done to replace collaborators of the economic bloc with sane patriotic husbands?
    Is it possible to find a dozen smart officials in a whole country? I DO NOT BELIEVE!
    And what swings the enemy of Russia - the gref, then in 2008 they put him on the sber for one single purpose - to tear the sber into pieces. Until now, the light forces have succeeded in hindering this bacchanalia, as it will turn around this time - unknown.
  18. +7
    27 January 2016 08: 51
    Apparently the next "hapok" is being prepared. , and the government wants to finally get bonuses for its work by privatizing tidbits of our economy. No other comes to mind.
  19. +7
    27 January 2016 08: 55
    Yegor Timurovich and his team were looking for and are still looking for ways to "make things easier" for the common people. They want to save us from that, then from the other. Any property we have is evil! And they are sufferers, for the cause of the people, they will find use for this property.
  20. +7
    27 January 2016 09: 33
    Let's privatize Nanotechnology! This fat leech on the budget. Let us get rid of annual infusions! Let the state Chubais advertise his company, report on his successes. If we don’t help out much, at least we’ll get rid of subsidies, let them look for private investors. laughing hi
  21. +4
    27 January 2016 09: 42
    Russia's leading "elite" lives in a parallel reality.
  22. +4
    27 January 2016 09: 49
    And the national front, where? It is his question, on behalf of the people, to stop pests. To raise the issue of privatization to a referendum, all the same state property, and it was created by the people.
    1. +5
      27 January 2016 11: 02
      Quote: koralvit
      And the national front, where?

      You will also ask about United Russia. An affiliate, however.wink
  23. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 03
    I read all the comments, concluded that all the cheers-patriots are still sleeping, from here-cheers-patriots sit all night on the Internet, thinking about the fate of Russia: =)
  24. +4
    27 January 2016 10: 07
    Why, in fact, wonder?

    In a bunch of standard vile liberal recipes, privatization has always been listed. Although it has not been proven that private owners are more efficient than the state on a large scale (large companies).

    The invisible hand of the market, the rejection of state regulation, privatization, raising the retirement age, compulsory foreign loans, globalization and international cooperation (in the form of abandonment of own production) are reminiscent of shamanic dances. And it ends with what? People did not fit into the market, let pensioners die out for the sake of mythical future generations, etc.
  25. +1
    27 January 2016 10: 13
    We would have to sell the Duma and the government, only hardly such laurel words would anyone take
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 10: 35
      But who needs them - spend money on them.
    2. 0
      27 January 2016 11: 04
      Quote: Damask
      We would have to sell the Duma and the government ....

      Today it is the cheapest and quietest method to conquer a country without any armies.wink
  26. 0
    27 January 2016 10: 22
    When all this will die. The whole crisis is for this purpose arranged by the Jews to plunder the remnants. And the main Pukin id.
  27. +3
    27 January 2016 10: 23
    Well, if a new round of privatization begins, the oligarchs will have to erect a monument to Putin during his lifetime in the Yeltsin Center. And next to him, in a dark corner, erect a monument to the main privatizer of all Russia - Chubais. VVP's cunning plan is clearly aimed at the well-being of the Ozero cooperative. And the people are a cash cow.
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 17: 56
      These companies certainly do not belong to the people, except to those who have shares in these companies, so companies will not go anywhere from selling the company's shares, they will continue to do oil production in Russia, and VTB and Sberbank will do loans , savings, accounts, transfers, accumulation of finances will continue to be engaged.
  28. +6
    27 January 2016 10: 43
    Why are these "squats" in the article? Sale of the largest state. corporations at bargain prices can only be called sabotage and sabotage. This can be conceived and executed either by an idiot or a traitor. But I don't believe in fools at the top of power.
  29. +2
    27 January 2016 10: 43
    But is it not time for these sellers in Lefortovo to determine whether the idea of ​​selling assets now is a crime. We have everything sold out. This is a threat to national security.
  30. +1
    27 January 2016 11: 11
    And when everything is sold, where will the money come from? feel
  31. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 32
    Liberals in power act in the interests of international syndicates, and not in the national interests. While they are in power, good for the country is not to be expected.
    1. 0
      27 January 2016 17: 44
      They mainly act in the interests of their own pockets - in principle, like all people living on planet Earth.
  32. +2
    27 January 2016 11: 34
    At first they robbed the entire Soviet people and thought they would hug them in the great bourgeoisie and put them at the head of the table! But no, it turned out that more powerful predators want to eat. And our boys began - the bad guys asked the long-suffering Russian people to save them from the sharks of capitalism, while not forgetting about their pockets. From the confrontation with the American bourgeoisie, the essence of the Russian bourgeoisie does not change and they do not care deeply about the rest of the population.
  33. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 35
    Traitors to the state of the Russian voucher to them in the anus with an aspen stake! No more words.
  34. 0
    27 January 2016 12: 03
    Oh, not clean in government. Syria is needed, corruption to the nail, do not forget about New Russia. But it is necessary, necessary, it is simply necessary to create the Beria-2 group. We are all surprised at the Ukrainian government that the traitors are supposed to be, and at the very very same, at least pour out buckets. Lavrenty Palych, ay. angry
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 17: 48
      We all say - "It is necessary to do" only they themselves do not do anything - they probably think that it is someone else who will do it.
  35. +2
    27 January 2016 12: 34
    I read - and just oh ... already.
    How much our "power-holding" stigmas are afraid of nothing! Already, after all, absolutely do not care for everything. Although - the comedy with "stool" was the very litmus test that showed the government's attitude to the ongoing orgy of plundering Russian property and to the opinion of the people ..
    Everyone knows very well what "bureaucratic privatization" is in Russia. And all the same - they will not be satisfied until they can take away the little that is left, and ... dump away ?? Into their "foreign" holes ??
    When will full confiscation be introduced? And will return the "tower", at least, for vovrovstvo on a state scale ??
    And about the Guarantor - do not put pressure on the sacred! He's a man too! Firstly, there is not enough of it for everyone and everything. Secondly - since he is a man, then nothing human is alien to him! Including the desire to "live humanly" ...)))
  36. +1
    27 January 2016 13: 10
    Quote: Dembel 77
    Well, ordinary people will be heated again. How long?

    The Russian people in general are very patient (or so lazy), until oxygen is blocked, we will put up with these liberalists on our neck. Take truck drivers for example, we were on the verge of survival and immediately expressed our protest! In the 90s, we calmly looked at how the achievements of previous generations diverged in our 00s, we were indifferent to the leakage of funds from the country's natural wealth over a hill, now we are just as calmly observing the destruction of law enforcement, healthcare, and education. Yes, what? Yes, loss of consciousness! and there, without knowing who is who ...
    1. +3
      27 January 2016 13: 38
      Yes, what? Yes, loss of consciousness! and there, without knowing who is who ...

      that's the trouble! Unfortunately, in Russia everything is brought to the maximum limit, and then there follows a return ... yes such that it will not seem to anyone.
      The bosses of life bit their lot after the collapse of the USSR - complete impunity brainwashed.
      And it is not familiar to them that their children and grandchildren will not sit beyond the hill. In Russia they will be broadcast and drowned, and the West will joyfully confiscate all their money.
  37. 0
    27 January 2016 13: 20
    Quote: Dembel 77
    Well, ordinary people will be heated again. How long?


    Formula of liberal reformers: "privatization of profits and nationalization of losses."
  38. +1
    27 January 2016 13: 25
    And what can the enemies of the people at the helm, except for the sale of the Motherland, which they do not have. These are not patriots, but cosmopolitans. And the king is not real, since he sees all this and does nothing. Already a friend of the Ozero cooperative Yakunin yelled that it is necessary to raise the industry, which is generally surprising on his part (he broke it up himself), and the tsar still praises the thieves for a job well done.
  39. +2
    27 January 2016 13: 26
    recently I listened to one "great" figure of the country's economic modernity. After listing the "huge and timely" actions to restore the economic situation in Russia, this modern guru said that the main question is - WHAT SHOULD BE DONE?
    So I had a question: a what are they doing with such zeal? If their main question is what should be done?
  40. +3
    27 January 2016 13: 40
    After reading the article, I thought: what for do we need this convention on human rights? He sharply wanted to temporarily lift the moratorium on the death penalty, at least in this exceptional case. And I think not for me alone ... am
  41. GAF
    +2
    27 January 2016 13: 57
    Quote: atalef
    Due to the sanctions and restrictions on lending from abroad and the peculiarities of the islands in the Russian Federation, in general, only Russians or Russian companies can privatize.

    It is unlikely that this will happen. The financial international at the start, hooves, salivating with impatience. We cut the last hens that lay golden eggs. Is it really more profitable for the state to receive tax on profits, rather than completely. The riddle.
  42. +3
    27 January 2016 14: 02
    At this time in the State Duma.
    The first deputy chairman of the Just Russia faction Mikhail Emelyanov suggested that the State Duma adopt a resolution containing an appeal to Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev asking him to evaluate the activities of Minister Livanov at his post and determine his future fate. The State Duma refused to consider a draft resolution of the Just Russia faction on the resignation of Russian Education Minister Dmitry Livanov.
    and joke from the Minister of Education
    Russian Education Minister Dmitry Livanov could not solve the riddle from the textbook for first graders.
    The task was set by the chairman of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko.
    “Now I’ll read you a riddle from the textbook for the 1st grade on the subject“ The World ”, try to guess it,” suggested the Minister to Matvienko.
    "Four fours, two wide openings, the seventh is a trooper." What is this? ”She asked.
    Dmitry Livanov, of course, could not guess. And the reference to the fact that young children “have more ability to answer non-traditional questions” did not affect the speaker of the Federation Council.
    “From the answer given in the same textbook, it follows that this is a cow,” Valentina Matvienko surprised the audience. And she asked the minister to tighten control over the quality of school allowances. “Pay attention to the very style of the task:“ fours, ““ wide openings ”... The methodological service should better check the textbooks so that they do not have such incidents,” the Parliamentary newspaper quotes Matvienko.
  43. +3
    27 January 2016 14: 40
    Well, something like this....
  44. +1
    27 January 2016 18: 27
    Quote: vladimirZ
    He is chosen by the people.

    Precisely, precisely by the people! 146% - all "FOR"! The people of Russia and the "guarantor from the galleys" are one!
  45. +2
    27 January 2016 23: 14
    Want to reveal a terrible secret.
    Although hawkish officials will write the battle in response, saying that they do not need to compare Russia with the West, I’ll immediately make a reservation, I'm not talking about Western companies. Effective business is not only in the west, it is present in the east and in the south and in the north (all in quotation marks).
    In a place with a note
    None of our top managers from any of the state companies was not just overbought by any foreign company, but our great managers are not even considered as such. And now let's look at the salaries of our tops in state-owned companies and karelia with the salary of an employee who directly develops, implements and implements, i.e. Forms the true capitalization of the company. Therefore, our specialists leave)
    And the privatization of state-owned companies at the time of the crisis suggests:
    The level of brain activity of top managers
    Or
    On the competent development of a state-owned company in someone close pocket