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Plow Geok-Tepe!

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Somehow heaped in recent days historical dates related to the defense and capture of fortresses. Ours also noted: exactly 135 years ago, on January 24 (according to the new style) in 1881, the Russian expeditionary force under the command of General Skobelev, after a short 20-day siege, stormed the Turkmen fortress of Geok-Tepe. This event was a decisive moment in the conquest of Turkmenistan, since the main forces of the Turkmen army died in Geok-Tepe. After the fall of the fortress and the destruction of most of its defenders, the Tekin Turkmen no longer tried to engage in open battles with the Russian army.

And before that, Tekians had long fiercely resisted Russian expansion. A previous attempt to capture Geok-Tepe, undertaken by General Lomakin in 1879, was unsuccessful. The Turkmen fought off the assault, causing serious casualties to the attackers. Having experienced food shortages and suffering from the heat and constant partisan raids of the Turkmen cavalry, Lomakin’s army retreated. After that, General Skobelev, in an interview with the officers, said that Geok-Tepe ought to be “picked up and plowed”, hinting at the fate of Carthage.

The second attempt was prepared much more carefully. "The White General" before the campaign created four-month food supplies and ammunition, and for a more effective reflection of cavalry attacks he borrowed from fleet battery mitrallosis. In order to supply troops from the Caspian coast to the interior of Turkmenistan in 1880, a railway was laid that became the first railroad in the region.

Skobelev's army consisted of 7100 men, including about 4800 infantrymen and sappers, 1060 cavalrymen and 1100 gunners with 58 guns, 16 mortars, 10 rocket launchers, and four Farrington mitrals. Almost the entire population of the Akhal-Teke oasis was hiding in the fortress - from 40 to 50 thousands of people. It is not known how many of them were warriors, but according to Turkmen traditions every man was obliged to fight from childhood to old age. The number of armed fighters in different sources varies widely, from 15 to 25 thousands, but only five to six thousand had firearms. weaponmainly - flint and wick caramel There was also one old cannon and two zembureks - small falconet pack bags.

Geok-Tepe itself was a large steppe area, surrounded by a rather high and thick mud wall with a parapet and prominent semicircular bastei, inside which approximately 15 thousands of yurts and a tent were randomly located. The Tekins were nomadic and did not build capital dwellings.

During the three weeks of the siege, Russian artillery made several gaps in the wall on the south side of the fortress, and the sappers dug an underground gallery and laid a big mine. Turkmens discovered the undermining of the sounds of works, but their ignorance of mine war let them down. They thought that the infidels were going through the underground passage to break into the fortress, therefore behind the wall, near the place of the supposed end of the tunnel, several hundred armed fighters were constantly on duty. Naturally, when the mine worked, they, together with the wall, flew into the air.

In the breach, made by the explosion, and in the gaps punched by guns, assault columns rushed under the command of Colonels Kozelkov, Kuropatkin and Lieutenant Colonel Gaidarov. Resistance demoralized defenders did not last long. Soon the Turkmen, abandoning their tents, wives and children, fled through the northern gate. Russian cavalrymen pursued and cut down ruthlessly fleeing, until the horses were exhausted. According to eyewitnesses, the steppe for 15 versts was littered with thousands of corpses.

The Turkmen who died in the capture of Geok-Tepe were not even approximately counted. Usually, numbers from 8 to 15 are called thousands, and this number also includes women, many of whom put up armed resistance. The losses of the Russian army are calculated more accurately - 54 killed, 254 injured and 90 shell-shocked, as well as 70 killed horses. More than 500 slaves were freed in the fortress, 12 thousand tents and various property worth six million rubles were captured. A week later, Russian troops occupied the Turkmen capital, Askhabat, without a fight. Transcaspian region became part of the Russian Empire.

The screen saver features Nikolai Karazin’s Storm of Geok-Tepe.



The beginning of the Transcaspian railway, built to support the Turkmen campaign of the Russian army.



Artillery Skobeleva.



Uniforms Russian soldiers, officers and Cossacks who fought in the XIX century with the aborigines of Central Asia. Please note that some soldiers are wearing sandals, which are more comfortable, although less durable shoes than boots, in conditions of deserts and hot climates.



The battery mitralie reflects the attack of the Turkmen cavalry. These "light machine guns", which took part in the Sokolev's Geok-Tepinsk expedition, were served by military sailors.



Left - surviving members of the defense of Geok-Tepe, photographed through 15 years after the capture of the fortress. Right - Turkmen tekinets on a horse.



Russian heliographic post in the vicinity of Geok-Tepe.



Break into the fortress of one of the attacking columns.



Russian flag over the Dengil-Tepe mound - the last center of defense of the defenders of the fortress.



Bronze medal for ordinary members of the assault. The officers were awarded the same medals, but minted in silver, and the generals in gold.



Remains of the clay wall Geok-Tepe. Snapshot 1896 of the year.



The interior of the museum of the Geok-Tepe assault museum, opened at the end of the 19th century and looted during the civil war.



In 1995, on the site of the former fortress, on the orders of the beloved father of the Turkmen people Saparmurad Niyazov, the French company Buig built a giant mosque dedicated to the memory of the fallen defenders of Geok-Tepe, but called the Saparmurad mosque. And the monuments to the Russian soldiers and officers who died during the conquest of Turkmenistan were destroyed in Soviet times.
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  1. Mangel olys
    Mangel olys 31 January 2016 06: 50
    16
    I am always interested in such articles. Very interesting. Thanks to the author.
  2. or
    or 31 January 2016 08: 10
    +8
    Anyone who has served or been in those places will be interested in history. Let us recall cold Ashgabat beer in hot Kelyatinsky times.
    1. semirek
      semirek 31 January 2016 19: 23
      0
      Quote: oder
      Anyone who has served or been in those places will be interested in history. Let us recall cold Ashgabat beer in hot Kelyatinsky times.

      As the saying goes, "Kushka, Termez and Mary are in the world ...
    2. palm
      palm 2 February 2016 17: 11
      0
      visited there - the 577th separate radio relay battalion (military unit 77047) of the deployment of the city of Geok-Tepe.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 31 January 2016 08: 16
    +4
    "Yes, there were people in our time, not like the present ..." What is it me, and Crimea.
  4. Semurg
    Semurg 31 January 2016 08: 26
    -1
    25-40 thousand Tekinians took refuge in an earthen fortress and the author counted 25 thousand soldiers? Rather, it turns out that there were fighters of 3-5 thousand militia strength armed mainly with melee weapons and karamultuki (wick guns), or he considered soldiers from infants to old men to be soldiers. Against the regular army armed with modern types of rapid-fire and artillery, and they were able to fight off the first campaign and stay for 20 days under bombardment during the second siege. Now the massacre arranged after the fall of the fortress and Skobelev’s words about the first cavalry in the world in terms of combat readiness are also understandable.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 31 January 2016 12: 05
      +5
      Quote: Semurg
      stay 20 days under bombardment during the second siege. Now the carnage arranged after the fall of the fortress is understandable

      To begin with, the Turkmens had to let the slaves go and surrender to the mercy of the winner, there wouldn’t be so many victims. The Turkmen forgot it / most likely they simply didn’t know / the consequence of the boastful phrase of Aidozle-Mehmet Pasha: “Rather, the Danube will flow back and the sky will fall to the ground than Izmail will surrender.”
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 31 January 2016 12: 25
        0
        Quote: V.ic
        Quote: Semurg
        stay 20 days under bombardment during the second siege. Now the carnage arranged after the fall of the fortress is understandable

        To begin with, the Turkmens had to let the slaves go and surrender to the mercy of the winner, there wouldn’t be so many victims. The Turkmen forgot it / most likely they simply didn’t know / the consequence of the boastful phrase of Aidozle-Mehmet Pasha: “Rather, the Danube will flow back and the sky will fall to the ground than Izmail will surrender.”

        Wow, and what your ancestors did not hand over Ryazan with Vladimir and Kozelsky to the Mongols, the winners probably also did not know the phrase Aidozle-Mehmet Pasha. By the way, at the expense of slaves, I forgot at that time serfdom was already abolished in the Republic of Ingushetia?
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 31 January 2016 17: 37
          +4
          Quote: Semurg
          By the way, at the expense of slaves, I forgot at that time serfdom was already abolished in the Republic of Ingushetia?

          20 years before the capture of this fortress, by the way, they came to abolish slavery in Central Asia.
        2. Aleks76
          Aleks76 31 January 2016 22: 03
          +3
          Do not equate with Kozelsk, they killed everyone there, and children too. And in Geok-Tepe the "evil" Russians fought only with soldiers, and 30 thousand inhabitants of Geok-Tepe survived. But what then did the brave Turkmen surrender Askhabad in a week without a fight? wink
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      3. Kazbek
        Kazbek 31 January 2016 18: 17
        +1
        Quote: V.ic
        To begin with, the Turkmens had to let the slaves go and surrender to the mercy of the winner, there wouldn’t be so many victims.
        Standard scheme of the colonial empire:
        1st option - "Voluntary accession"
        2nd) If they do not want to "voluntarily", then they begin to develop a backup plan with "slaves" wink
        There is also a third option. Like they outstripped the "Englishwoman who crap", or the insidious Omerika .. At one time, the invasion of Afghanistan, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and the Crimea was justified by this ..
        Like, just about, just, just barely managed to get ahead of the Americans, who would have set up a "base", "missiles aimed at Moscow" ..
        1. Oorfene Deuce
          Oorfene Deuce 31 January 2016 18: 40
          +4
          Quote: Kazbek
          Like, just about, just, just barely managed to get ahead of the Americans, who would have set up a "base", "missiles aimed at Moscow" ..

          Do you doubt that it would be otherwise?
          History indicates that this is exactly what would happen. As soon as ours brought out the PGW, as the former members of the police department asked at NATU. Now they are potential enemies.
          And if there weren’t a Russian presence in Central Asia, under whose influence local khans and bais would fall? The answer is obvious.
          1. Semurg
            Semurg 31 January 2016 18: 58
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            Quote: Oorfene Deuce

            Do you doubt that it would be otherwise?
            History indicates that this is exactly what would happen. As soon as ours brought out the PGW, as the former members of the police department asked at NATU. Now they are potential enemies.

            they voluntarily asked for NATO or driven by force? It doesn’t seem strange as soon as the Russian state weakens, all the nations are trying to make legs of it. even Ukrainians got on skis. maybe the reason is in yourself and not in total betrayal and ingratitude. Anek in the subject. Chukchi stands on the shore of the Bering Strait and screams. Obama h-mo. they ask him. why Obama h-mo and he answers Alaska bought but there is no Chukotka and again Obama h-mo.
            1. Mooh
              Mooh 31 January 2016 20: 39
              +3
              It doesn’t seem strange as soon as the Russian state weakens, all the nations are trying to make legs of it.

              This happens with any empire. Any collective farm chairman wants to become the head of a small and wretched, but his own state. And when it comes to understanding that the state turned out to be miserable, and the former metropolis rises again, you have to run and look for someone to lie under, just to prevent the former owners from returning and protecting their honestly stolen goods.
              1. Semurg
                Semurg 31 January 2016 20: 56
                -3
                there is another way. To become a successful, prosperous state, to be an example of success in state construction and the standard of living of the people, then all the heads of collective farms will be sent where Emelya did not drive the goats and you will also choose who to take back and who not. Or is this not our method?
                1. baudolino
                  baudolino 2 February 2016 07: 57
                  +1
                  In fact, according to statistics, Russia is in second place in the world in the reception of migrants (in the sense of normal, and not those who rushed to the EU). As before the revolution.
                2. Colonel
                  Colonel 5 February 2016 14: 25
                  0
                  Quote: Semurg
                  Become a successful wealthy state

                  And do you know how to do it? Or the main thing is to quit the slogan? By the way, about all the peoples "making their feet out of the weakened Russian state." Firstly, not all. Secondly, they are either deceived or sold out (for soldering, for example), and some, cunningly ... cut ones, are already striving back.
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  5. semirek
    semirek 31 January 2016 08: 27
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    A detailed article reveals the "genius" of Skobelev-Suvorov of the 19th century. We must pay tribute to the Turkmens as well - they were brave and brave warriors, it was not for nothing that General Kornilov had a personal escort of devoted Tekins.
    A little about the conquest of Asia by the Russians: the goal was not so much because of the aggressive policy, as the Soviet propaganda later described these actions - the British who were already in Afghanistan would gladly take "our" Asia, and I am sure that after them Central Asia is still since then it would have vegetated in the Middle Ages.
    The Soviet government, which hated tsarism, for its aggressive policy, nevertheless, for some reason did not abandon these acquisitions in Asia, while destroying all memory of the valiant commanders of that period, the new authorities of Turkmenistan, for some reason, forget: to whom do they owe their prosperity and prosperity - is it not for the Russian people who took them into their "boat", of course, we will not hear thanks, I think history will make its own circle.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 31 January 2016 10: 56
      -5
      Quote: semirek

      A little about the conquest of Asia by Russians: the goal was not so much because of an aggressive policy, as Soviet propaganda later painted these actions - the British were already in Afghanistan,

      iron logic that would not get England need to capture themselves. By the way, after all, they also wanted to capture India in order to annoy England, like the Cossacks were sent on a campaign? otherwise you’ll look alongside the Sevens and gangets or brahmaputreks would be on the site.
      Quote: semirek
      , and I'm sure that after them Central Asia would still vegetate in the Middle Ages.
      The new authorities of Turkmenistan, for some reason, forget: and to whom they owe their prosperity and well-being - whether it is not the Russian people who took them into their "boat", of course, we will not hear thanks, I think history will make its own circle.

      colony of England India and Pakistan today are nuclear powers. Afghanistan was not colonized by England, and in its current infernal position there is considerable merit of the USSR government with its international assistance and the US government with its democratization and the fight against terrorism. The Turkmen government is grateful to the authorities of the Russian Federation for the announcement of the "declaration of sovereignty of the Russian Federation" from the USSR, which gave them a reason and the opportunity to gain their own sovereignty. If you want gratitude to the address of the Russian people, then do not separate the carrot from the carrot, first they conquered with a massacre and then took them into the boat.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 31 January 2016 12: 06
        +2
        Quote: Semurg
        first conquered with the massacre and then taken to the boat.

        Would you have conquered without "carnage"?
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 31 January 2016 12: 30
          -1
          Quote: V.ic
          Quote: Semurg
          first conquered with the massacre and then taken to the boat.

          Would you have conquered without "carnage"?

          and it was necessary to conquer? Maybe, for example, it would be better to supply "sandals" in exchange for Akhal-Teke horses? and then it would not be a shame for all the "help" and introduction to the "culture" of the backward peoples of Middle Asia.
      2. iouris
        iouris 31 January 2016 13: 12
        +8
        Here's what I tell you, you are offended by us: now not even now.
        There is an objective geopolitical logic for the development of an extra-large progressive state, which at that time was Russia. This logic required to occupy the territory to a certain limit. The war was fought by the means by which it was fought. The conquests in Central Asia did not lead to the genocide of the peoples that were included in the Russian Empire. Moreover, the intervention of the central authorities in the internal affairs of the conquered peoples and tribes was minimal and did not impede the maintenance of customs. On the contrary, joining the empire was of progressive significance. It is enough to compare the educational, cultural, economic level of the former republics of the USSR with Afghanistan. The consequences of secession from the empire, we also see. I should say thanks to the empire of Russia-USSR. How events will develop further, we will see.
        The entry of Turkmenistan into the Russian Empire and the USSR is part of the globalization process. In general, it is historically justifiable that the republics received statehood. However, objectively, we remain MUTUALLY dependent. Now we have a common story. For example, the ancestors of my wife during the revolution were forced to flee from Petrograd to Ashgabat during the post-revolutionary repressions, and only because of this survived. True, some died during the terrible earthquake after the war.
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 31 January 2016 14: 52
          -1
          Quote: iouris
          Here's what I tell you, you are offended by us: now not even now.
          There is an objective geopolitical logic of the development of an extra-large progressive state, which at that time was the Empire of Genghis Khan. This logic required to occupy the territory to a certain limit. The war was fought by the means by which it was fought. The conquests in Ancient Russia did not lead to the genocide of the peoples that were included in the Mongol Empire. Moreover, the intervention of the central authorities in the internal affairs of the conquered peoples and tribes was minimal and did not impede the maintenance of customs. On the contrary, joining the empire was of progressive significance. It is enough to compare the educational, cultural, economic level of the Moscow kingdom with Afghanistan. The consequences of secession from the empire, we also see. I must say thanks to the empire of the Mongolo-Tatars. How events will develop further, we will see.
          The entry of ancient Russia into the Mongol Empire and the Juchi ulus is part of the globalization process. In general, it is historically justifiable that the republics received statehood. However, objectively, we remain MUTUALLY dependent. Now we have a common story.

          Your comments have changed a little if you agree with the changes, I agree with your post wink
          1. iouris
            iouris 31 January 2016 21: 01
            +1
            Sophisticated, you are ours. Do not think and, moreover, do not write these nonsense. They don’t joke with history.
            Not Genghis Khan and not Russia, but global financial capital, is the driving force of globalization.
            Too many countries that have become states have begun to cultivate nationalism, deny, on the whole, the progressive nature of development during the USSR, the friendship of peoples, the greatest role of the Russian people, failed social programs, and therefore risk being subjected to igilization. Then the story may repeat itself.
      3. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 31 January 2016 14: 17
        +2
        = Semurg "and then you look along with the seven-river and gangets or brahmaputreks would be on the site."
        Yes it would be nice. The villages on the Ganges are normal.)))) In the civilian project was the creation of the Amu Darya Cossack army from the escapes. And the Euphrates army in the WWI.)))
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 31 January 2016 14: 33
          +1
          Quote: Nagaibak
          = Semurg "and then you look along with the seven-river and gangets or brahmaputreks would be on the site."
          Yes it would be nice. The villages on the Ganges are normal.))))

          and all descendants of the Aryans from Russian to Indians would live in one state, it is a pity the snuff-box or scarf stopped this campaign (I do not remember exactly). And the Germans in vain themselves attributed to the Aryans they are Pribluda third-born laughing
      4. semirek
        semirek 31 January 2016 16: 51
        +3
        Semurg, you are some kind of Russophobe, and also the viceroy of God on earth - it painfully you know everything, and even that you don’t know, but in fact you don’t know anything, so empty general phrases.
        In Afghanistan, Shuravi still say thanks, for dams and elevators, factories and factories built by the USSR, not even the Taliban destroyed them, but what did your British build in Afghanistan?
        You say do not be Russian (Soviet) occupation of Asia ... because there were khanates, emirates, the modern state borders of the Central Asian states were laid out by the Soviet government, powerful dams on the rivers were built at the expense of the USSR, huge factories and gas production infrastructure --- they could have overpowered such khanates , and indeed they needed it.
        India and Pakistan are multi-million state (not khanates), the British pumped everything out of their colonies, creating an atomic bomb in our time is not difficult.
        Yes, you don’t shine with the facts, Trotsky thought of a saber trip to India, who thought it was easier there, to fire a world fire among the Indian poor, but did not have to - Poland turned up, and after it there wasn’t any cavalry.
        Of course, I don’t like your irony about the Semirechye army, so this is again from ignorance and Russophobic position, by the way the Euphrates Cossack army existed.
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 31 January 2016 18: 01
          +1
          in general, it was not Trotsky who planned the first saber trip to India, but some kind of Emperor of Russia Paul Toli or something else, but there the matter ended up seeming to be a blow to the temple with a snuffbox. The Shurawis were good while they built schools and factories and did not meddle in the internal affairs of Afghanistan and, moreover, did not enter their troops participating in an internal conflict on the side of one of the candidates for power in Kabul (having killed the ruler of Afghanistan at that time, who invited the Shurai military without expecting stab in the back). Then there was a bloody conflict with millions of refugees and victims. (I remember the argument that it is necessary to fight enemies in Jalalabad but not in the Soviet but in Afghanistan, it does not look like today's argument for fighting enemies in Syria than in the Caucasus). At the expense of dams in the Middle East between the Amu and Syr Darya rivers, this is a very ancient center of human civilization, and there were dams and irrigation there when the Macedonian conquered these lands, and these lands rose and fell many times in technical, cultural and economic terms. Well, I only write, if you attribute all the achievements in Middle Asia to the Russian people, then do not forget about all the shoals, one of which is the massacre at Geok-Tepe. And then the achievements are the Russian people, and the jambs are komunyaki-Jews-authorities-Americans-aliens-bai, etc., etc. By the way, switching to personalities with hanging labels like russophobe-natsik-kalbit and so on is not worth it.
          1. AID.S
            AID.S 31 January 2016 19: 35
            +1
            Quote: Semurg
            if you attribute all the achievements in Middle Asia to the Russian people, then do not forget about all the shoals, one of which is the massacre at Geok-Tepe.

            If you remember everything, then tell me why Russia climbed into Turkmenistan? And what did "peaceful Turkmenistan" do then? And by the way, from the point of view of spreading the fruits of civilization and democratization, is the fight against slavery not a reason? And the fact that in the subsequent period they did not behave like the British and did not instill love for themselves by exploitation and robbery, but simply tried to raise the level of the natives to their own, - well, call me, sorry, it didn't work out.
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 31 January 2016 20: 16
              -2
              I remember the expedition of Bekovich (which consisted of troops and which the Khiva people had cut out) was to find gold-bearing sands. And Skobelev probably wanted to free Iranian slaves, this is of course an important occasion (no worse than today's amers' struggle for democracy). Down on the branch they write that in India they speak well of the English period. Maybe in 50-60 years we will speak well about the Russian period in the history of Middle Asia. and for today there was so much good and bad, so ring out words from the song not to throw out.
              1. Pig
                Pig 31 January 2016 21: 28
                +1
                semurg - I’ll explain to you more simply about the Turkmens and about the Central Asian peoples in general: the Turkmens were wild nomadic herders who had slavery in the order of things and who lived in robbery and raids! they considered it a valor to seize slaves and poison crops - they only understand brute force ... such a problem at the borders had to be solved at all costs!
                and after unsuccessful attempts to solve it peacefully - the problem was solved radically ...
                and - lo and behold! - a small massacre immediately "calmed" the region, calm reigned on the borders, predatory raids, slave captures and massacres (practiced by the Turkmens) stopped, which gave the "occupants" the opportunity to develop the wild land - to build railways, roads, cities, ports ...
                but in general, do not care what you say there about the "Russian period" in Sr. Asia - all the same nonsense in half with the idle inventions of local "scholarly historians"
                1. Semurg
                  Semurg 31 January 2016 21: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: Pig
                  semurg - I’ll explain to you more simply about the Turkmens and about the Central Asian peoples in general: the Turkmens were wild nomadic herders who had slavery in the order of things and who lived in robbery and raids! they considered it a valor to seize slaves and poison crops - they only understand brute force ... such a problem at the borders had to be solved at all costs!

                  and where did you read this information about the wild Asians? by the way, the Spaniards and the British called all Indians the same wild who only did what they cut out hearts and scalps and after a small massacre about a miracle all South and North America "calmed down", which gave the "invaders" the opportunity to develop the wild land and build railroad roads-cities -ports. Well, your pearl about local "historians" who have not read but nonsense still speaks volumes.
                  1. Pig
                    Pig 31 January 2016 23: 01
                    +1
                    "" and where did you read this information about the wild Asians? "
                    read the article carefully! or do you disagree that they were wild? prove it!
                    "" lo and behold, all South and North America "calmed down" "
                    do not confuse sour with fresh - the scale of the massacre is not the same - if as a result of the "occupation" a handful of Turkmens would remain on the reservation - then yes
                    "" Well, your pearl about local "historians" who have not read "
                    I myself am from Uzbekistan ... so - READ!
                    Well, everything is clear with you - judging by the style, you are an ordinary Haryp troll whose arguments are only kindergarten "he is like that!"
          2. semirek
            semirek 31 January 2016 20: 17
            -2
            Quote: Semurg
            in general, it was not Trotsky who planned the first saber trip to India, but some kind of Emperor of Russia Paul Toli or something else, but there the matter ended up seeming to be a blow to the temple with a snuffbox. The Shurawis were good while they built schools and factories and did not meddle in the internal affairs of Afghanistan and, moreover, did not enter their troops participating in an internal conflict on the side of one of the candidates for power in Kabul (having killed the ruler of Afghanistan at that time, who invited the Shurai military without expecting stab in the back). Then there was a bloody conflict with millions of refugees and victims. (I remember the argument that it is necessary to fight enemies in Jalalabad but not in the Soviet but in Afghanistan, it does not look like today's argument for fighting enemies in Syria than in the Caucasus). At the expense of dams in the Middle East between the Amu and Syr Darya rivers, this is a very ancient center of human civilization, and there were dams and irrigation there when the Macedonian conquered these lands, and these lands rose and fell many times in technical, cultural and economic terms. Well, I only write, if you attribute all the achievements in Middle Asia to the Russian people, then do not forget about all the shoals, one of which is the massacre at Geok-Tepe. And then the achievements are the Russian people, and the jambs are komunyaki-Jews-authorities-Americans-aliens-bai, etc., etc. By the way, switching to personalities with hanging labels like russophobe-natsik-kalbit and so on is not worth it.

            It seems to me that you made a mistake on the site --- they’re talking about Russia here, you, my friend, to get to a dill site somewhere - you’ll come off
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 31 January 2016 20: 31
              0
              Ukrainians, as I was convinced on this site about three years ago, it is part of the Russian people consisting of Little Russians, Great Russians and Belorussians, and you want to flush me there like in the camp of your worst enemies. It is not good to change your views so easily and quickly for the sake of momentary fashion. Or do you consider the Little Russians a separate people from the Great Russians? Then you are my friend Russophobe encrypted under the descendant of the Cossacks-Semireks.
              1. semirek
                semirek 31 January 2016 22: 19
                +2
                Quote: Semurg
                Ukrainians, as I was convinced on this site about three years ago, it is part of the Russian people consisting of Little Russians, Great Russians and Belorussians, and you want to flush me there like in the camp of your worst enemies. It is not good to change your views so easily and quickly for the sake of momentary fashion. Or do you consider the Little Russians a separate people from the Great Russians? Then you are my friend Russophobe encrypted under the descendant of the Cossacks-Semireks.

                Yes, the logic leaves much to be desired - I sent you, not to the Ukrainian website but to the dill-Ukrainian, these are different things, but your accusations of Russophobia are ridiculous to me, because it’s simply impossible to find me in the Russophile, because, for me, the history of Russia, as for a Russian person it has a deep meaning, including glorious pages, for you, as a liberal historian, it is important to find a catch in these pages, to try somehow to belittle the significance of an episode — the usual practice of a Russophobe.
              2. iouris
                iouris 1 February 2016 00: 34
                +1
                Ukrainians and duped Ukrainians are not at all the same thing. However, the same applies to the Turkmen. Those who are programmed to Russophobia, is the worst enemy of their people.
                In short, it’s better to tell how you or your closest relatives suffered from the atrocities of the Russian invaders.
    2. kalibr
      kalibr 31 January 2016 12: 53
      -1
      Quote: semirek
      after them, Central Asia would still vegetate in the Middle Ages.

      But India after the British in the Middle Ages does not vegetate, on the contrary ... Ask the Indians and they will tell you: "We owe everything to the British - roads, bridges, schools, universities. Recently I contacted a company in Amritsar ... Indian! Located at a crossroads. three streets - all names are English.What will not change the heavy legacy of colonialism? There are no suitable names?
      1. semirek
        semirek 31 January 2016 17: 21
        +3
        India is developing, but the poverty rate is very high - the quarter collects money and sends a walker to watch a movie, he returns and tells the contents. The Englishmen, being in Indy to take out colonial goods, of course built roads, ports, administrative cities, but they did not build roads water pipes, canals to every village --- do not try to convince Caliber of this. At the expense of language, India is a large country with a billion people, they have only 2000 religions, and how many peoples and nationalities, yes it was possible to cancel English in 49m, and how many years n it would be necessary to switch completely to Hindi, in addition to Indians, this is not Asians, it is a different culture, another perception of reality, it was logical and practical to maintain bilingualism, which was done, unlike post-Soviet Asia, which made a big mistake by canceling the Russian language, thereby indicating Russians at the door, and as a result, the loss of skilled labor, the loss of the consumer population, and, as a result, the Russian influence coming out of the orbit, to which this will lead even now.
        1. Kazbek
          Kazbek 31 January 2016 18: 33
          +3
          Quote: semirek
          it was practical to maintain bilingualism, which was done, unlike post-Soviet Asia
          In Kazakhstan, de facto bilingualism, in Kyrgyzstan, de jure ..
          Quote: semirek
          pointing the Russians at the door
          If the "Almaty regional committee" dumped in Kaliningrad, then what have the Kozakhs got to do with it. request ?!
          Quote: semirek
          and, as a result, exit from orbit of Russian influence
          The cooperative "Ozero", "Peskov's clock", "Yakunin's fur store", "Krymsk Tkachev", "Kushchevka Chaika", "Star of the Hero of Russia Serdyukov", "Red slippers of Vasilyeva" ... and many things that are not list, and not what you vividly described here .. fool
          1. semirek
            semirek 31 January 2016 19: 18
            +2
            It’s strange Kazbek, I didn’t even mention Kazakhs here, but as they say, remember ....., well, it doesn’t matter.
            Firstly, Kazakhstan, 92 years old and Kazakhstan today are two different things, the rhetoric is changing, or rather, the understanding comes that the only one who does not deceive is Russian, a small example, I remember how they pushed Magnitogorsk Mittalu in the 2000s, they thought the Indian would work for Kazakhstan, damn from two, he destroyed the mines, and the plant was on the verge of closing — the Russians a couple of years ago came in, started modernization — came home last year, drove past the Temirtau pipes even more, the mines began to be restored.
            You are a little disingenuous, my friend, I personally remember the elections to the Supreme Soviet in 93, and he was elected and began to act, it really raised issues both in production and in the language issue - which did not like the then leaders of Kazakhstan (they by the way, he is still in power), there was a formal reason to disperse this Council, instead of a "pocket" one that will not solve Russian problems, that's all, and you put the cart in front of the horse, they say Kaliningrad left, because of this he did not dare the language issue, but finally understand that a Russian living in Kazakhstan will never become a Kazakh, but he will be a law-abiding citizen, but always in second place.
            The Kirghiz initially pressured the Russians to leave, a mass exodus took place, there were attempts to lie on the Americans, but common sense won late, but nonetheless the Russian language is official.
            Regarding the latter, I will answer with the words of Gleb Zheglov: "... and in England they steal no less than ours ..."
            If I begin to list all the "sins" of the Kazakhstani elite, there will not be enough space, and there is no need for me to do this, we are not in kindergarten, but is it ethical for you to notice a speck in your neighbor's eye when it sticks out in your log, that is the question, by the way you forgot to mention on your list the corruption of President Putin, this will certainly undermine the authority of Russia to a minimum.
        2. kalibr
          kalibr 31 January 2016 18: 46
          0
          I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I just give information: talk with the Indians and you will find out their opinion, especially when you start scolding the British with them.
      2. AID.S
        AID.S 31 January 2016 20: 00
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        Ask the Indians and they will tell you: “We owe everything to the British - roads, bridges, schools, universities.

        What are the roads, bridges, schools, universities that were in the now independent parts of the former Republic of Ingushetia before they entered, well, except for the Baltic states and Lviv, and answer, why haven't they been thanked since 1991? And also African blacks, Egyptians, Chinese, ask, are they grateful to the colonialists?
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 31 January 2016 21: 32
          0
          It was only about India, right? Why immediately to the whole world? It looks like a substitute for a thesis, an old technique known, but ... not very good.
          1. AID.S
            AID.S 31 January 2016 23: 23
            +2
            Quote: kalibr
            It was only about India, right? Why immediately to the whole world?

            Quote: kalibr
            Quote: semirek
            after them, Central Asia would still vegetate in the Middle Ages.
            But India after the British did not vegetate in the Middle Ages, on the contrary ...

            I agree, the thesis was substituted from Central Asia to India.
      3. iouris
        iouris 1 February 2016 00: 52
        +1
        The Finns are grateful to the Russian tsars and expressed gratitude to the objects of monumental art. The first president of Finland, Mannerheim was a Russian officer, carried out an intelligence mission in China and Tibet, an ethnic Swede.
        Urho Kalevi Kekkonen, also president of Finland, is a Russian naval officer.
        Quote:
        Soon after the capture of Geok-Tepe, Skobelev detachments were sent under the command of Colonel Kuropatkin; one of them occupied Askhabad, and the other went more than 100 miles to the north, disarming the population, returning it to oases and spreading an appeal with the goal of pacifying the region as soon as possible. And soon in the Transcaspian possessions of the Russian Empire a peaceful situation was established.
        End of quote.
        What did the Europeans do with the Indians and Zulus?
    3. kalibr
      kalibr 31 January 2016 12: 57
      -2
      Semirek The main thing in caring for your neighbor is not to overdo it!
      1. semirek
        semirek 31 January 2016 17: 25
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        Semirek The main thing in caring for your neighbor is not to overdo it!

        Why this sarcasm?
    4. Kazbek
      Kazbek 31 January 2016 18: 23
      +2
      Quote: semirek
      and I’m sure that after them Central Asia would still vegetate in the Middle Ages
      Singapore with Hong Kong smiling laughing
      Quote: semirek
      for some reason they forget: and to whom they owe their prosperity and well-being
      Maybe the Russian Empire needed to take care of the well-being of its own Russian people, otherwise at least Russian peasants used to wear bast shoes .. Although what I mean, the Cossacks are all in favor of the king's father .. performing "police" functions.
      Well, then after the 17th I had to pay for everything "according to the Hamburg bill" ..
      1. semirek
        semirek 31 January 2016 20: 07
        +2
        Quote: Kazbek
        Quote: semirek
        and I’m sure that after them Central Asia would still vegetate in the Middle Ages
        Singapore with Hong Kong smiling laughing
        Quote: semirek
        for some reason they forget: and to whom they owe their prosperity and well-being
        Maybe the Russian Empire needed to take care of the well-being of its own Russian people, otherwise at least Russian peasants used to wear bast shoes .. Although what I mean, the Cossacks are all in favor of the king's father .. performing "police" functions.
        Well, then after the 17th I had to pay for everything "according to the Hamburg bill" ..


        I think that the Hong Kongs and Singaporeans owe their prosperity primarily to their hard work, and not to the British at all, the British simply skimmed the cream from these territories, and to survive on such a small area, millions of people need to live by the rules of the anthill. If you are hinting why Kazakhstan did not become the second Hong Kong - I think the Kazakhs didn’t need this, the Russians came, built cities, resettled the population from yurts to comfortable houses, gave jobs, why is it striving for something, it’s necessary to move.
        It was just that the empire took care of its people — the peoples surrounding the borders didn’t want to plow — they all planted for free, then the Russian peasants took the cattle away, or even drove them into slavery, what to do? So the Russians had to look for a way out of this situations: persuasion did not help, it was necessary to take these peoples by force in order to somehow protect themselves from raids, by the way the main load was borne by the Cossacks, who were so unloved by you, the support of the empire.
        As for bast shoes, I think very comfortable Russian peasant shoes, like boots, all the same, it’s better than walking in sheepskin trousers, teeming lice, and in the summer in 40 degree heat.
        With a Hamburg account, I did not quite understand who owed whom?
        1. Kazbek
          Kazbek 1 February 2016 14: 34
          0
          Quote: semirek
          I think that Hong Kongs and Singaporeans owe their prosperity primarily to their hard work
          If industriousness is to listen to you - the primary factor, while you know for sure that the Uzbeks obviously will not give way to the Hong Kongs and Singaporeans do not have to speak about comparable prosperity ..No.
          Quote: semirek
          As for bast shoes, I think very comfortable Russian peasant shoes, like boots, all the same, it’s better than walking in sheepskin trousers, teeming lice, and in the summer in 40 degree heat.
          Being in Russia, why didn’t I see the Russians in bast shoes .. request All in Chinese sneakers, but Turkish boots. Themselves as in bast shoes on Königsberg move repeat?
          Quote: semirek
          Just then the empire took care of its people
          Og yes serfdom is all about caring for the people.
          300 years Romanovs fucked Russia .. negative And the Cossacks successfully helped them in this.
          And in the end I had to pay for everything ..
          Quote: semirek
          and even themselves into slavery to steal what to do?
          There, with Khiva and Turkmen, logistics is simply amazing recipient belay This they had to distant lands through the territories of unfriendly Kazakhs, it was necessary to get to the "Russian slaves". Ali Russian slaves are the best slaves in the world? The most servile slaves? Although, if we consider how much serfdom was in Russia, then we can come to this conclusion ..
          Moreover, probably the Turkmens and Khiva, probably they were just to go raiding in the Republic of Ingushetia? am You look good with logic.
      2. iouris
        iouris 2 February 2016 16: 24
        0
        Is Central Asia a Port? Or are the Turkmens living in Singapore and the Kazakhs Hong Kong?
        Better tell us what has been done over 25 years of independence, what high technologies have been developed and implemented?
    5. Pig
      Pig 31 January 2016 21: 13
      +3
      "" after them, Central Asia would still vegetate in the Middle Ages ""
      yes, they already have a little before the Middle Ages! "Middle Ages" in the minds is very difficult to get rid of ... you can't wash a black dog to the white, and as soon as the power of the empire weakens the local bai-babai immediately begin to destroy what it has created ... why? the answer is simple: they themselves cannot do anything of the kind, and this is why a return to their "national roots" - to vyshyvanka-skullcaps, begins, but it is impossible to feed the people with vyshyvanka-skullcaps, so fairy tales about the "heavy legacy of the occupiers" begin, the consequences of which are forced to "heroically overcome" "the current rulers ... and so on ad infinitum ...
      although if there hadn’t been an empire, they would have sat in yurts with wick karamultuks ...
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 31 January 2016 08: 35
    +7
    During the 20-day siege, the defenders of Geok-Tepe were not limited to passive defense. Tekinians made a number of successful attacks, during which they destroyed about 400 besiegers, captured 2 guns and one banner. During a sortie on December 29, the scorer of the 21st artillery brigade Nikitin was captured. The besieged tried to force him to teach them how to use a captured tool. Despite the brutal torture, the Russian gunner refused to do so and died the death of the brave.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 31 January 2016 11: 01
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      During the 20-day siege, the defenders of Geok-Tepe were not limited to passive defense. Tekinians made a number of successful attacks, during which they destroyed about 400 besiegers, captured 2 guns and one banner. During a sortie on December 29, the scorer of the 21st artillery brigade Nikitin was captured. The besieged tried to force him to teach them how to use a captured tool. Despite the brutal torture, the Russian gunner refused to do so and died the death of the brave.

      Tekinians defended their land, the Russians came to conquer. Although this fact does not deny the courage and courage of both parties.
      1. iouris
        iouris 1 February 2016 00: 53
        0
        Quote:
        Even General M.D. Skobelev was delighted with the military skill of the Turkmens: “Tekinians are so great that bringing several hundred such cavalry to Vienna is not the last thing.”
        The general’s wishes were realized, after some three or more decades, the Turkmen in the Russian army will indeed appear near Vienna (Austria-Hungary).
        End of quote.
  7. Talgat
    Talgat 31 January 2016 10: 53
    +4
    Quote from the article: "... Please note that some soldiers are wearing bast shoes, which turned out to be more comfortable, although less durable shoes than boots, in deserts and hot climates ..."

    In the summer heat, bast shoes are really a thousand times better than boots. Even if 2-3 pairs are drifted
  8. Semurg
    Semurg 31 January 2016 11: 04
    0
    Quote: Talgat
    Quote from the article: "... Please note that some soldiers are wearing bast shoes, which turned out to be more comfortable, although less durable shoes than boots, in deserts and hot climates ..."

    In the summer heat, bast shoes are really a thousand times better than boots. Even if 2-3 pairs are drifted

    poor Turkmens did not know this fact and the poor suffered without bast shoes laughing
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 31 January 2016 12: 17
      +3
      Quote: Semurg
      poor Turkmens did not know this fact and the poor suffered without bast shoes

      They were not friends with their heads, what a demand from them ... lol By the way, there is a legend: when in the 30s of the last century Skobelev's grave was opened in search of "treasures", the Chekist chief liked Mikhail Dmitrievich's boots very much, ordered to shoe the hero's power, request but the "new thing" crumbled to pieces. The "boss" was evidently not friendly with his head either. bully
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 31 January 2016 12: 31
        +3
        Quote: Semurg
        poor Turkmens did not know this fact and the poor suffered without bast shoes
        Maybe they knew, but they had nowhere to take linden bast for bast shoes. They didn’t import caravans from the northern lands. And during the civil war in the Red Army there was a special commission. It was engaged in harvesting the bast and supplying troops with bast shoes.
      2. Semurg
        Semurg 31 January 2016 12: 44
        0
        the Chekist got into a mess, probably thought the "Inca" gold, that is, the Turkmen would find it in the grave. Probably such a "boss" was in charge in those days in Turkmenistan, once he coveted the boots from a corpse. On account of the fact that sandals are better than boots, I remember in SA, they also convinced me that footcloths are better than socks. It seems that two or three years ago, the Russian army came to the conclusion that socks are better than footcloths.
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 31 January 2016 17: 50
          +2
          Quote: Semurg
          that socks are better than footcloths.

          Socks with boots, and boots with footcloths. Boots are prettier on asphalt and concrete, but on black soil, on sand / in the "field" / boots are better.
          1. Semurg
            Semurg 31 January 2016 18: 09
            +1
            Quote: V.ic
            Quote: Semurg
            that socks are better than footcloths.

            Socks with boots, and boots with footcloths. Boots are prettier on asphalt and concrete, but on black soil, on sand / in the "field" / boots are better.

            Well, I don’t know, the year in young growth passed in footcloths, the second year in sandals and mountains in the socks was no sand and black soil, it was more comfortable in the socks and in the socks of their camel hair (grandfather’s strategic stock) in general it’s high in winter.
            1. palm
              palm 2 February 2016 17: 40
              0
              In Turkmenistan, I did not see black soil, more than sand and white plus 40-50 in the shadow of Kayffff
  9. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 31 January 2016 11: 29
    +1
    No attempts will help to destroy the glory gained in battles.
  10. Kagulin
    Kagulin 31 January 2016 11: 34
    +1
    That's exactly how it is necessary to destroy the enemies of RUSSIA !!! For all time! Glory to Skobelev, Hero of Russia !!!
  11. -Traveller-
    -Traveller- 31 January 2016 13: 06
    +2
    everything like everyone else then - the usual colonial expansion with a rifle and a gun against the spear and saber. the result is logical.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 31 January 2016 14: 40
      -1
      Quote: -Traveller-
      everything like everyone else then - the usual colonial expansion with a rifle and a gun against the spear and saber. the result is logical.

      "We sing a song to the madness of the brave." the Zulus also went with spears to the machine guns and cannons of the British and it happened that they won the battle. True sympathy of the members of the forum when discussing those topics on the side of the Zulu.
  12. thinker
    thinker 31 January 2016 15: 52
    0
    exactly 135 years ago, January 24 (according to the new style)

    And the Turkmens since 1991, January 12 Memorial Day - Mourning day - is celebrated in honor of the victims of the Battle of Geok-Tepe Fortress.
  13. psg72
    psg72 31 January 2016 18: 04
    +1
    I advise you to read a very interesting book by Vladimir Parkin "Conquest in Russian". Who is interested in the history of the Trans-Caspian region and the whole Russian Empire.
    http://www.proza.ru/2009/03/14/410
  14. Rubon
    Rubon 1 February 2016 02: 27
    +1
    Turkmens .. ran into the army with representatives of this nation, one out of 3-4 people stood out, once I asked him, word for word - what I say to my fellow countrymen you persecute and disdain them, but he tells me - so they are a poor nudger there in civilian life, and I’m the son of a bek or a bai, I forgot what he called himself then, he says I’ll come home they must remember how I masturbated them in the army!
    I admit a little struck by this, the year was 87-88 and they have beks and buy, clogged people ...
    By the way, then these poor Turkmens mocked the soldier from the Volga region, brought him to a very crap state, so even my castle dag beat the three of them simultaneously in the toilet and did not let them cry. fellow
  15. golem
    golem 3 February 2016 13: 07
    0
    Why was there anything to climb?
  16. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 15 February 2016 23: 28
    0
    Quote: semirek
    India is developing, but the poverty rate is very high - the quarter collects money and sends the walker to watch the movie, returning to tell the content.
    Dear, have you been in India for a long time? or do you know her from the Soviet agitation years that way 1960x?
  17. Monarchist
    Monarchist 17 December 2016 14: 17
    0
    I’m sorry I didn’t read this material before. In fact, sometimes they look at past materials: how much is interesting