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Airbus helicopters will begin to produce in Russia

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Company "Ural Civil Plant aviation"(UZGA) and the European Airbus concern have entered into a licensing agreement for the production in Russia of Airbus Helicopters H135 helicopters and their engines, reports Expert Online.




An agreement was also signed for the supply of 4 helicopter kits to the Urals enterprise.

The parties also agreed to assemble the Arrius B2BPlus engines at the plant: a “Memorandum of Understanding on the assembly of engines and an agreement on their technical repair” were signed.

According to the resource, “the twin-engine helicopter H135 is used by emergency medical services and law enforcement units.” In the United States in this area involved about a hundred of these machines.

“The main advantage of the Arrius B2B engine is an increase in 6% take-off power in high mountains and hot climates, making the payload increase by 200 kilograms,” the publication notes. The engine overhaul life is 4 thousand hours, its operating costs are significantly reduced due to "high fuel efficiency".
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www.airbushelicopters.com
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  1. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 26 January 2016 12: 15
    53
    So here you are, import substitution smile
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 26 January 2016 12: 17
      11
      everything is perfect with helicopter engineering. Ansatu also has enough space. I feel the tears begin.

      Oh no ... this minus ...

    2. iConst
      iConst 26 January 2016 12: 21
      17
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      So here you are, import substitution smile
      - Yeah.

      We simply do not listen: our "actors" say "import substitution". And we hear "import substitution".
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 26 January 2016 12: 33
        13
        Yes Yes!
        The same rake.
        And how much can you step on them?
    3. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 26 January 2016 12: 33
      +5
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      So here you are, import substitution
      - Yes, we have almost all of our helicopters cooler than tanks. And so, flying civilians is not very good. Over there, in Primorye, the governor bought a couple of American helicopters (Plastun-Avia bought two American Bell 407 GX helicopters for 335 million rubles), there were screams. I don't know how long we stayed there, but something “like that” flies. What is the point: why not build such a plant in our country and produce the corresponding high-tech equipment at a correspondingly lower price.
      1. Blondy
        Blondy 26 January 2016 13: 10
        +9
        Quote: oldseaman1957
        What is the point: why not build such a plant with us and produce appropriate high-tech equipment at an accordingly lower price.


        And why is there a new one, in Arsenyev there is an old one - it copes with K52, you can expand it, give the task to the developers and let the civilians rivet on the next line.

        But there is a question that rust corrodes my generous patriotic impulse - but how much does it cost? Recall Russian supercomputers (on their components) - they were no worse and no better than others, but they were more expensive and could not compete.
        Let us recall the recently promoted "non-commercial" servers based on Baikal processors (the core is under the English license) - the price is 400 rubles. TX - about the beginning of two thousand. For the same amount you can buy the most sophisticated computer of the latest generation.
        Now imagine and estimate - how much will it cost and what will a regular flat LCD TV look like, of domestic assembly and from domestic components?

        That is why, probably, they decided to assemble the airbus, since the domestic price may also turn out to be clearly "non-commercial" with the same characteristics.
        1. Nikita74
          Nikita74 26 January 2016 18: 32
          +3
          I support, that's how much the domestic LED lamps cost ??? Three times more expensive than the same Chinese assembled according to German technology
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 26 January 2016 20: 48
          +1
          Quote: Blondy
          Now imagine and estimate - how much will it cost and what will a regular flat LCD TV look like, of domestic assembly and from domestic components?

          Well, it’s probably not so flat ... what
        3. Dewa1s
          Dewa1s 27 January 2016 14: 02
          0
          Let us recall the recently promoted "non-commercial" servers based on Baikal processors (the core is under the English license) - the price is 400 rubles. TX - about the beginning of the two thousandth

          Horses mixed in a bunch, people.
          Servers on mix processors? What?
      2. asiat_61
        asiat_61 26 January 2016 14: 15
        0
        Look on the tube for how Bell is assembled, high-tech on the knee.
      3. dauria
        dauria 26 January 2016 16: 43
        +1
        and why not build such a plant with us and not produce the appropriate high-tech equipment ....


        I saw how in Kiev, practically in a barn, men copied a broken Czech-built "Tsesna". smile In addition to the engine itself, the entire glider is so "highly technological" that apart from the welding equipment and locksmith tools (vice, grinder, drill and hair dryer), not a damn thing is needed. The airplane is so simple in design, and the materials are from the construction supermarket. Stainless steel and duralumin tubes, rivets, film, cables, several ribs glued from fiberglass, even the wheels of the chassis. Rave. It is possible to give such orders to the plant only with a very large batch.
        1. Blondy
          Blondy 27 January 2016 04: 04
          0
          So we have all the helicopters on their knees assembled, in the factory, really. The engine, appliances are brought, and the rest, excuse me, by hand - they cut, bend, rivet, weld, well, with a rasp.

          Why are there helicopters? I recently watched a video about the assembly of world-famous machine guns at the Kalashnikov concern - the same vice, hammers, chisels and a rasp. Workbenches are still probably pre-war production. They blew on them before shooting with ball paint, and for some you can see how the tool boxes are already falling apart. Well, it immediately became clear to me why our weapon is more unapplied and looks rough - with such catching microns, in general, all hair should stand on end.

          For that, of course, respect for the developers flew up to heaven - such characteristics with such a production! Israeli Tavor 21 in our assembly would certainly not be among the best. Ukrainians already tried under license, on the same production basis - immediately strained with trunks, well, plus or minus a tram stop in all respects.
    4. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 26 January 2016 12: 34
      +4
      ... So here you are, import substitution ...


      ... And interesting .... ".... The company" Ural Civil Aviation Plant "(UZGA) ..." - state or private ???? .... what
      1. WUA 518
        WUA 518 26 January 2016 13: 03
        +4
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        Ural Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA)
        Ekaterinburg
        2015 year

        The Ural Civil Aviation Plant Joint-Stock Company (hereinafter referred to as the Company) is a commercial organization created by transforming the state enterprise Plant No. 404 GA into an open joint-stock company in accordance with Presidential Decree No. 1 of July 1992, 721, “On organizational measures to transform state enterprises, voluntary associations of state enterprises into joint stock companies. ” The company is registered by the State Registration Office of Entrepreneurship in the city of Yekaterinburg, order No. 28 of May 1993, 429.
        The company is the assignee of the state enterprise "Plant No. 404 GA".
        The legal basis for the activities of the Company are the Constitution of the Russian Federation, federal constitutional laws and federal laws, other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation, as well as this Charter. Since 2009, UZGA JSC has been part of the Oboronprom Industrial Complex (Russian Technologies State Corporation).
        1. glasha3032
          glasha3032 26 January 2016 15: 53
          0
          The state-owned stake should be (usually 20%), which allows the state to influence the policy of the company.
    5. rpek32
      rpek32 26 January 2016 12: 38
      +1
      fabulous autism. Now let's also remember the production of Bells here.
    6. Maxom75
      Maxom75 26 January 2016 12: 57
      +7
      We sell modular Ka to Hindus, including for medical aviation, we buy in Europe ourselves. Where is the logic? We do not believe ourselves? Or Indians?
      1. GSVG 86-88
        GSVG 86-88 26 January 2016 13: 14
        +5
        This is just an assembly, not a fact that for the domestic market. For people, work and salary, but for Indians and other buyers we will do our own.
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    8. siberalt
      siberalt 26 January 2016 13: 10
      +3
      And then there is a mismatch between import substitution, if we produce ourselves? The farm is useful.
      1. glasha3032
        glasha3032 26 January 2016 15: 58
        +5
        How much to produce? 4 sets? Is that all? This is most likely a veiled attempt to acquire a helicopter under someone's official ass bypassing the laws.
      2. woron333444
        woron333444 26 January 2016 16: 07
        +2
        Not just on the farm, but jobs. Or do we not need new jobs?
    9. Juborg
      Juborg 26 January 2016 13: 36
      -1
      The whole brain of the government has dried up. Foolishness on the face, combined with betrayal.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 26 January 2016 14: 42
        +2
        And here is the government, it is written in Russian that the enterprise is not state-owned, but commercial. Let the rovers even collect, this is their business. But if this happens in Kazan or Rostov-on-Don, then you can be indignant.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 26 January 2016 15: 57
        +2
        Quote: juborg
        The government’s brain is completely dry

        No, everything is thought out. It’s in vain that Serdyukov was appointed to the “Russian Helicopters”. wink
    10. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 26 January 2016 13: 40
      +3
      In addition to the negative, there is a positive side - technology. Indeed, the article says that helicopters and engines for them will be assembled with us, and this is very good for OUR helicopter engineering + creation of additional. work places.
      1. glasha3032
        glasha3032 26 January 2016 16: 01
        +1
        Is it a screwdriver assembly and what will it teach us? Our people know how to work with a screwdriver and a key, how many aircraft have done in stagnant years ...
    11. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 26 January 2016 17: 54
      -1
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      So here you are, import substitution

      But we don’t have enough of our turntables ... This is, rather, an import movement ... request Sheep, those who invented it ...
  2. Llirik
    Llirik 26 January 2016 12: 17
    +5
    Why the hell are we? What do we need, Ansat does not need sales?
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 26 January 2016 12: 29
      +2
      an agreement was signed for the supply of 4 helicopter kits to an ural enterprise

      this is the destruction of the helicopter industry of the Russian Federation. How lynx destroyed the auto industry! Serdyukov’s case lives on!

      1. DenZ
        DenZ 26 January 2016 13: 12
        +1
        this is the destruction of the helicopter industry of the Russian Federation. How lynx destroyed the auto industry! Serdyukov’s case lives on!

        I can even say in whom it lives, the Chairman of the Government of the Sverdlovsk Region Denis Pastler. Remember the name of this city on the collapsing domestic helicopter industry under the guise of attracting investment !!!
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      3. avt
        avt 26 January 2016 13: 15
        +3
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        this is the destruction of the helicopter industry of the Russian Federation. How lynx destroyed the auto industry! Serdyukov’s case lives on!

        Well, do not fool around. To be precise, Marshal Taburetkin ordered luxury "Augustas" like, which are ALREADY being produced in the Moscow region.
        Quote: iConst
        - The characteristics of H135 and Ansat are very close. A European takes 200 kg more on a piece of paper: 1300 kg Ansat and 1495 kg N135.
        Although such a meticulous accuracy leads to some thoughts.

        "Ansat" and Ansat because this Messershmit BB is not a competitor in life. The machine is quite decent - the Emergencies Ministry uses it. Already yesterday I wrote - it's a pity that Kamovites with the Ka-115 did not advance beyond the layout recourse Stupidly they didn’t give the money. As for the Urals - well, they make turntables under their asses, they collected Bellka and transferred it to the Civil Air Force School. Here they are worn with the L-410, they can’t shove it in any way. Well, let it be - whatever the child would amuse, if only he would not hang himself.
        Quote: Maksus
        A great option of import substitution, five points !!!

        here there is no need to panic. Well, if they had put engines under this business .... and if they also localized their production in the same Urals .... That would be the case! Yes, and then hell would be that the name and machine from the Wing of the Wing.
    2. iConst
      iConst 26 January 2016 12: 47
      0
      Quote: Llyric
      Why the hell are we? What do we need, Ansat does not need sales?
      - The characteristics of H135 and Ansat are very close. A European takes 200 kg more on a piece of paper: 1300 kg Ansat and 1495 kg N135.
      Although such a meticulous accuracy leads to some thoughts. smile
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 26 January 2016 13: 29
        +5
        Well do not need to dope


        it’s just funny to me how much the stench got into the account of buying 4 sets. How many screams about zrad, given the number of Ansats produced and further produced

        Well, and as you rightly noticed, about the localization of the engine. A bit of information was laid out on the surface, and the people were already indignant. Although that’s what, and helicopter engineering in the Russian Federation lives and still saw the horn

        1. avt
          avt 26 January 2016 13: 42
          +3
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          it’s just funny to me how much the stench got into the account of buying 4 sets. How many screams about zrad, given the number of Ansats produced and further produced

          Well, here I agree.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 January 2016 14: 50
          +1
          The main thing is that this enterprise would pay taxes regularly to the treasury and let it make even spaceships, ours or ours - what’s the difference - we and people will have production.
          1. rpek32
            rpek32 26 January 2016 16: 32
            0
            I would like to ask everyone who appeals to "there will be new jobs": and if we organize the production of Russian helicopters of this class (and to hell with it, pumped-over Soviet helicopters of the Mi-2 type), then new jobs will not appear? or how? or are engines and technology vital? or is it vital to establish production with those who openly spit in the face?
            1. Darkoff
              Darkoff 26 January 2016 18: 50
              +1
              Quote: rpek32
              I would like to ask everyone who appeals to "there will be new jobs": and if we organize the production of Russian helicopters of this class (and to hell with it, pumped-over Soviet helicopters of the Mi-2 type), then new jobs will not appear? or how? or are engines and technology vital? or is it vital to establish production with those who openly spit in the face?

              Who cares Airbus spat in the face? On his own initiative, he certainly did not reduce the volume of cooperation with Russian enterprises.
              I don’t understand, why not add the experience of foreign manufacturers to our experience in helicopter engineering?
              And our manufacturers need competition, otherwise they will relax.
              1. rpek32
                rpek32 26 January 2016 23: 22
                0
                And our manufacturers need competition, otherwise they will relax.

                there is a global market. there is competition - more than enough. the field is not plowed.
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 26 January 2016 19: 18
              +1
              And you do not confuse business with politics.
              1. rpek32
                rpek32 26 January 2016 23: 21
                0
                Quote: Vadim237
                And you do not confuse business with politics.

                and why not confuse if politicians use business as a tool to achieve political goals?
  3. Maksus
    Maksus 26 January 2016 12: 17
    +4
    A great option of import substitution, five points !!!
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 26 January 2016 12: 20
      -1
      Zrada! 1! 1 until! Enough tolerating this!

      1. Maksus
        Maksus 26 January 2016 12: 29
        -2
        Zrada is on the Censor)))
        In our realities, it’s just a shame, okay, cars are cars - it’s scary and expensive to ride our buckets, but helicopters ...
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 26 January 2016 12: 49
          +2
          it’s scary and expensive to ride our buckets
          Yes, almost all foreign cars that drive on our roads are "made by Russia"
          1. Maksus
            Maksus 26 January 2016 12: 52
            -1
            My KIA made in the UK, not in Kaliningrad. Like Opel previous. Not all cars are assembled with us, only chassis. But any foreign car is better than AvtoVAZ products.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 26 January 2016 13: 35
              +1
              But any foreign car is better than AvtoVAZ products.


              AvtoVAZ replaced equipment standing there since the 70's.

              To be objective, the products of AvtoVAZ 90's are not equal to the products of AvtoVAZ 2015 of the year - but you do not make any differences in these products.

              So you are at least not objective, and your proposal has more cliches than meaning. Another comment about import substitution is a mockery.

              Nakoy you mock this word, if any foreign car is better than AvtoVAZ products

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              2. Bayonet
                Bayonet 26 January 2016 21: 04
                +1
                Quote: s-t Petrov
                any foreign car is better than AvtoVAZ products

                Indian "Tata nano" is no better No. But cheaper for sure!
            2. grandson of Perun
              grandson of Perun 26 January 2016 14: 03
              +1
              Quote: Maksus
              But any foreign car is better than AvtoVAZ products.

              Is Daewoo Matiz / Chevy Spark better than Lada Vesta? Oh well...
              1. Maksus
                Maksus 26 January 2016 14: 06
                0
                It is better. Even Nexia is better. You take into account the still not quite adequate pricing policy of AvtoVAZ.

                Quote: c-Petrov
                AvtoVAZ replaced equipment standing there since the 70's.
                To be objective, the products of AvtoVAZ 90's are not equal to the products of AvtoVAZ 2015 of the year - but you do not make any differences in these products.
                So you are at least not objective, and your proposal has more cliches than meaning. Another comment about import substitution is a mockery.
                Nakoy you mock this word, if any foreign car is better than AvtoVAZ products


                That is precisely why I am mocking that import substitution should not turn into, figuratively speaking, replacing Zev's toilet paper with a stack of cut newspaper sheets. Something like this.
                Do you know at least one company that produces normal domestic jeans?
                1. grandson of Perun
                  grandson of Perun 26 January 2016 15: 39
                  +2
                  Quote: Maksus
                  It's better. Even Nexia is better.

                  The question "is it better?" I won't ask, I'd rather just ask "what are your motives for participating in the information and trade war against our industry?"
                  I hope for a more or less honest answer ...
                  1. glasha3032
                    glasha3032 26 January 2016 16: 08
                    +2
                    I can answer the better - when you are driving along the highway, only VAZ cars are standing on the sidelines (overheated, broken). Alas, regrettably, but a fact.
                    1. grandson of Perun
                      grandson of Perun 26 January 2016 16: 50
                      +2
                      Quote: glasha3032
                      I can answer the better - when you are driving along the highway, only VAZ cars are standing on the sidelines (overheated, broken). Alas, regrettably, but a fact.

                      First, overheated, most likely the old carburetor vazovskie models broke.
                      What actually says in favor these old men, because their foreign peers in your area have not survived and do not drive on roads.
                      Secondly, in the Kaliningrad region the picture is exactly the opposite - in summer on the roads from the sea along the sidelines there are exclusively overheated, broken cars (carburetor), and the VAZ cars calmly drive past. They brought us in the 90s vaunted imported junk, but it breaks no less.
                  2. Maksus
                    Maksus 26 January 2016 21: 02
                    -3
                    In what? Just because I don’t want to ride a bucket makes me a member of some kind of nonsense? What are you driving? On a real Russian UAZ Patriot car? Exactly, in aglitsky letters. Or by car Moskvich Yarilo? No, Red Sun or what was the name of these last fruits of the agony of AZLK?
                    And Spark is a cool device, five men in winter uniform calmly fit. And it normally rides with an 0,8 liter engine. On the machine.
                2. koosss
                  koosss 26 January 2016 16: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: Maksus
                  Do you know at least one company that produces normal domestic jeans?

                  "Gloria Jeans"
                3. koosss
                  koosss 26 January 2016 16: 25
                  0
                  Quote: Maksus
                  Do you know at least one company that produces normal domestic jeans?

                  "Gloria Jeans"
                4. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 26 January 2016 21: 07
                  0
                  Quote: Maksus
                  That is precisely why I am mocking that import substitution should not turn into, figuratively speaking, replacing Zev's toilet paper with a stack of cut newspaper sheets.

                  (cry)
          2. Greenwood
            Greenwood 26 January 2016 15: 07
            +2
            And in our Vlad almost all cars from Japan, almost no domestic.
            1. Maksus
              Maksus 26 January 2016 15: 30
              0
              You are really lucky.
  4. air wolf
    air wolf 26 January 2016 12: 17
    +6
    And why do we then release Ansat if our bad people buy someone else’s, where is patriotism, and should not be confused with idiocy !?
  5. Engineer
    Engineer 26 January 2016 12: 18
    +4
    I said that the Superjet is just the flowers of our KLA, and now the berries are tied.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 January 2016 14: 53
      0
      Of course, more than 100 of them have already produced flowers, and on the approach MS 21 and Frigate Ecojet.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 26 January 2016 15: 57
        0
        what's the difference how much they released, because it is fashionable on this site to throw a brick in the direction of the SSJ, and remember the unkind word of Poghosyan

  6. Mihail55
    Mihail55 26 January 2016 12: 18
    +5
    We also produce Komatsu excavators ... it was hard to come up with ours ???
    1. Engineer
      Engineer 26 January 2016 12: 23
      +7
      Why invent it, they have been since Soviet times. And now the plant is in this form. Our helicopter plants are waiting for the same, if not stopped.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 January 2016 14: 56
        0
        This will be waiting for our helicopter plants - if our helicopters in general the whole world and our Ministry of Defense ceases to purchase - which is fantastic.
  7. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 26 January 2016 12: 22
    -1
    But jobs will be
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 26 January 2016 12: 29
      +1
      Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
      But jobs will be

      I'm more worried about this under license or screwdriver assembly.
      The parties also agreed to assemble the Arrius B2BPlus engines at the plant: a “Memorandum of Understanding on the assembly of engines and an agreement on their technical repair” were signed.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 January 2016 14: 59
        +2
        Of course, under a license, and in the future, they will completely completely produce components inside the country, since it is an expensive pleasure to import them from abroad.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 January 2016 12: 23
    +5
    If something happens according to the will of a person, then someone needs it. I agree with the question of visitors regarding import substitution. But probably Arrius B2B engines played a role.
  9. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 26 January 2016 12: 27
    +6
    ... production in Russia of Airbus Helicopters H135 helicopters and engines to them...
    The main word in this news is engines!
  10. Woodman
    Woodman 26 January 2016 12: 28
    +1
    “The main advantage of the Arrius B2B engine is an increase in take-off power of 6% in high altitude and hot climates,


    That means they will not do it for our climate, but for export. Good too.
  11. akshor
    akshor 26 January 2016 12: 30
    +1
    I can assume that we just need helicopters now, Ansat has already been loaded for several years
  12. doework
    doework 26 January 2016 12: 33
    +2
    Why not ? First - screwdriver assembly and maintenance of the existing fleet, then - accurate copying of interesting technologies. IMHO, any ways unpunished borrowing technology and business practices - welcome.
    We are not bothered by the fact that the Tu-4 was a clone of the B-29 ...? No! Let's copy and adapt, remodel and improve! The main thing is not to sit on w ... waiting for budget over-infusions!
    1. glasha3032
      glasha3032 26 January 2016 16: 13
      -1
      Copying is a programmed lag in the future. Death is like.
  13. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 26 January 2016 12: 34
    +1
    Mi 2 dug a ba from the archive, worked as an engine and sold it to anyone and provided for themselves!
  14. barclay
    barclay 26 January 2016 12: 34
    +1
    The parties also agreed to assemble the Arrius B2BPlus engines at the plant: a “Memorandum of Understanding on the assembly of engines and an agreement on their technical repair” were signed.
    Once again on the same rake? And then again we will courageously overcome difficulties when these "henpecked USA" refuse to supply components for servicing helicopter engines, which will already be in operation by various government services.
    Are there really not enough helicopters?
    "Miracles in the sieve"!
  15. vsdvs
    vsdvs 26 January 2016 12: 34
    +3
    I did not understand what the screaming was about? Is it written that we buy helicopters? It seems to be written that we will produce helicopters. Let the assembly, but everyone does not like the presence of car assembly plants? At a certain stage, while our helicopter builders do not produce a complete assortment, why not collect at least jobs and train qualified assemblers.
    1. akshor
      akshor 26 January 2016 12: 36
      +1
      if they still see that P&W engines on Ansat ... will be even sadder
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 January 2016 15: 00
        0
        There will definitely not be engines from this company - sanctions.
    2. glasha3032
      glasha3032 26 January 2016 16: 18
      +2
      In order to assemble the helicopters, you need to BUY vehicle kits. And the labor of workers and technicians in Russia traditionally costs nothing (we pay young people). This is the policy of the management of the JSC - we will not do our own helicopters - the rollback is small (well, really, what can you fuck with the creators of Ansat?)
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 26 January 2016 18: 11
        0
        from already rolled back for 4 sets

        stop inserting the word rollback wherever you can. in some I see a brain rollback has occurred

        The creators of Ansat raped the state order from the state, which does not have the subject of discussion.

        The head must be turned on sometimes. Glasha, well you need to know the limits

        1. glasha3032
          glasha3032 27 January 2016 13: 10
          0
          The purchase of foreign aircraft in Russia tends to have a "kickback" -10% of the cost of the car is received by the customer in his pocket, otherwise what interests did foreign aircraft pour into the country? Importing a "foreigner" into the country also implies an increased monetary expenditure on spare parts, which imposes for the purchase of additional encumbrances in comparison with Russian aircraft and spare parts.
  16. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 26 January 2016 12: 35
    -1
    I hope the money from this contract will go to development .. but not to purchase all kinds of buns for lovers and wife-children ... fur coats (season) -cars-squares ..
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 26 January 2016 12: 51
      +2
      In vain hope. Serdyukov in aviation in a strong position steers. Really did not hear?
  17. Sirocco
    Sirocco 26 January 2016 12: 35
    +5
    Well, what can I say, the niche is free, and our enterprises did nothing to occupy it, for example, at UUAZ, as I said, workers are being laid off, since orders for Eights have fallen, and why not employ these people on small aircraft ? Nobody itches. I hope that after assembling these machines, something will be created and "local." From personal experience, I will say this, I was introduced 8 years ago, with Robinson 44, and VO-105, both machines are very good, Mi-2, and 4, not in comparison with them, given that 105 was in the mid-80s ... As always, our small aircraft flies only on paper, and the price tags for all of the above imports are horse-drawn, not for the middle class.
    So, let's see if there will be movement, and the preservation of plants, due to the loading by small aircraft, or KIT sets.
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 26 January 2016 12: 36
    +3
    They import import substitution here - import substitution, this is a private enterprise and does what it wants. And considering the number of 4 helicopter sets delivered, it’s too early to talk about anything at all. So if they receive an order from the Ministry of Defense then there is cause for concern
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 26 January 2016 13: 13
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      They import import substitution here - import substitution, it is a private enterprise and does what it wants.

      Ural Civil Aviation Plant JSC is a part of OBORONPROM Corporation, if Che.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 26 January 2016 14: 26
        +1
        Quote: Wheel
        Quote: APASUS
        They import import substitution here - import substitution, it is a private enterprise and does what it wants.

        Ural Civil Aviation Plant JSC is a part of OBORONPROM Corporation, if Che.

        So what?
        Only military men use helicopters in our country, or you already have information about our purchases by the Moscow Region, and with such a dollar exchange rate, they will remain on the site forever.
        The experience of China does not mean anything to you ............
  19. Damask
    Damask 26 January 2016 12: 48
    +1
    It starts again, let's put everything on metal again, technology will scream again, take it, again it will be like with the Mistrals
  20. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 26 January 2016 12: 51
    +2
    It would be better to launch KA 60 in a series.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 26 January 2016 18: 15
      +2
      4 sets will certainly violate these plans.

      I read comments on this article and just %%:%:?% From people.

      PS H135 and Ka-60 is of course yes. Same. Direct competitors, huh? Well, sho, there are screws, there is a tail boom, there is a cab! Mean helicopter






  21. Romanenko
    Romanenko 26 January 2016 12: 52
    +1
    A very risky and wrong decision. In the mode of manufacturing licensed products, you will always find yourself in the "tail", all the most modern and advanced developments will be there, and you will produce, as they say, the "colonial" version, and this is likely to be sold only in the domestic market or developing countries, not spoiled by comfort and quality technicians, in this situation, willy-nilly, you will slip into the production of "basins" (took place in Togliatti), hack-work will go, and, like, all other things being equal, at air shows, uncles with money from abroad will pat on the head - well done you rivet the turntables .... but they will not buy from you, but from the head enterprise, because you have a lower chimney and thinner smoke, as they say.
    Of course, the plant’s management, most likely, is preoccupied simply with the idea of ​​not dying, somehow supporting the enterprise and preventing specialists from being thrown anywhere. You can’t argue here, there will be volumes and financial support from the Germans ... But why from the Germans, and not from ours? !!! Well, we didn’t have new developments .... Is this a stranger, not a Russian plant? Don’t we need helicopters? Once such a drunk went, as they say, something urgently needs to be done with bodies at the level of the deputy corps, governor, ministers, etc. They don’t care in the process, but now every plant needs to be registered.
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 26 January 2016 13: 07
      +1
      Quote: Romanenko
      Very risky and wrong decision.

      You should not think so. The Eurocopter company produces the EC-120B Colibri together with Asian helicopter builders (France, Singapore, China), which have made a number of design improvements. So not everything is so bad. Boeing is also our rivets gain experience.
      What is not handsome, a beautiful bird.
  22. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 26 January 2016 12: 57
    +3
    Quote: Llyric
    Why the hell are we? What do we need, Ansat does not need sales?

    The planned sequestration of the 2016 budget should be started with the fact that NOT a single state penny was spent on the implementation of this next crazy idea (in today's conditions of "partnership" relations with the West, this is simply not realizable)! "Mistrals", "Iveks", etc., the list goes on and on, as you can see, they DO NOT LEARN anyone or anything! Or is there something else behind it? For example, to meet the needs of the Arshavins and other similar bureaucratic trash, who must have a personal mandatory IMPORT helicopter, plane, car, etc. at the state expense.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 26 January 2016 13: 20
      +2
      Forgive God for! Did football player Arshavin have anything to do with it, or did I oversleep something very important?
  23. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 26 January 2016 13: 28
    0
    Bravo. We have few helicopters, there’s nothing to fly on. I also propose stopping the production of Kalash and instead of them begin to rivet under license something American, as unviable as possible, and so that there are no bullets. Then, in general, there will be a complete order.
  24. DPN
    DPN 26 January 2016 13: 28
    0
    Here IT is a great Russian education, it is time to return to the USSR, or even the truth, 15 million of Russia's population is enough to serve the WEST. about 15 these are the words of Margaret Thatcher.
  25. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 26 January 2016 13: 30
    +3
    "Produce" and screwdriver assembly are completely different things. For the sake of B. ha, let them collect, pure evasion from import duties, nothing more. This will be a custom-made piece assembly for VIP clients. Maintenance and repair will take place in Europe, when there are about twenty pieces, some kind of office is certified for service with us.
  26. RPG_
    RPG_ 26 January 2016 14: 15
    +2
    Why did you raise a panic? Great news, the plant works, people get paid, and with the current exchange rate of the dollar and the euro, they are cheaper to produce here and drive to Europe.
  27. chikenous59
    chikenous59 26 January 2016 14: 43
    +3
    My opinion is that this is a great opportunity to study European technologies and introduce something interesting into our own developments
  28. Leo7777
    Leo7777 26 January 2016 14: 56
    +2
    And what is it that the company collects helicopters for money? Pumping the budget back to the country. Then the products will be distilled back to Europe or the USA, the Chinese are apparently not given so that in 2 years a cheap copy will not be issued
  29. Zomanus
    Zomanus 26 January 2016 15: 21
    +2
    So we have no cars of this class.
    You can try it. There, after the Mistral, they began to think about the large-block assembly of ships.
    Maybe something will come up here, already on the basis of our helicopters.
    So I would not cry and curse.
  30. yanus
    yanus 26 January 2016 15: 48
    0
    Quote: Maksus

    Do you know at least one company that produces normal domestic jeans?

    Gloria Jeans
  31. fa2998
    fa2998 26 January 2016 16: 44
    +1
    Quote: WUA 518
    Since 2009, UZGA JSC has been part of the Oboronprom Industrial Complex (Russian Technologies State Corporation).

    Ah, here are the Russian Technologies, screwdriver assembly of foreign helicopters! And what our designers have not gained in 20 years? They turn Soviet helicopters, give new names, numbers and more! hi RS.And maybe this is a "tricky move". In the Chinese manner. We got the car, copied it, changed a couple of parts, and under our name to the market. At least to the internal one. laughing what
  32. 31rus
    31rus 26 January 2016 17: 34
    -1
    Dear, not much else, God forbid, lift the sanctions, who will guarantee that people, enterprises invested in import substitution, will not ruin, for the sake of big politics, because if you think about giving the design bureau a helicopter, it’s better, and your exclamations they are needed in the Ministry of Emergency Situations, ambulance, they will not be there, so there is no need for nonsense, a helicopter for bureaucrats
  33. hartlend
    hartlend 26 January 2016 19: 00
    +1
    It is not clear from the article why they will collect airbuses and what niche they occupy in the market. Or they decided to load free production capacity. In general, a muddy article. I see, here the rating of an article is determined based on the principle of like or dislike of the news. That is, you need to write about what everyone likes and will have good ratings. It may make sense to rate the article, and not the news that is in the article. It turns out like in "The Marriage of Balzaminov" - ... urak, I forbade you to talk about it.
  34. Gavril
    Gavril 27 January 2016 04: 55
    0
    These comrades are just one of the advantages of the low ruble exchange rate, i.e. to produce this helicopter with us has become cheaper, bare calculation. And this is after all jobs, specialists, money to the budget in the end.
  35. Just BB
    Just BB 27 January 2016 06: 50
    +1
    Very interesting! what
    Engine-repair plant wants to build helicopters belay
    This is something like - "garage" announced that it will produce cars! "We will buy a body, wheels, an engine and put everything into a car! We even have a license from the factory!"
    The site of this company "We repair 100 engines a month!"
    Motor Sich does not produce as many blades per month for spare parts as they claim for engines!
    Repair production will never be a full-fledged manufacturer! No major restructuring!
    Sami can produce maximum lock washers - It’s commonplace to sort the aggregates with the replacement of worn ones from a set purchased from the manufacturer.
    Hence - "tricky move "to bypass all" thorns "(customs, sanctions, etc.) and replenish the account