Croatia can not afford new aircraft

The Croatian Air Force is in a deplorable state: at present, only eight MiG-21bis and two combat-capable MiG-21UM, which have been repaired in Ukraine in 2013-2014, are ready for sorties, the blog reports bmpd with reference to www.jutarnji.hr.

“Airplanes expire only in the 2024 year, but this is rather a theoretical figure. Despite early statements that the Croatian Air Force will buy new combat aircraft, the deplorable financial situation of the country is unlikely to allow this, ”the Croatian edition notes.

“Croatia’s national debt is 40 billion euros, or 90% of GDP, and it continues to grow. It is assumed that in the 2017 year, Croatia will be included in the "twenty" countries with the highest levels of debt. Thus, the country's budget is unlikely to be able to afford the purchase or lease of Saab JAS-39 Gripen or KAI FA-50 fighters, which were considered as candidates. It is estimated that the cost of renting a JAS-39 will be 800 million kuna (112 million dollars) per year, which seems unacceptable. ”- the author writes.

The Croatian Military Department is trying to get help from the Americans to purchase the F-16A / B squadron in Israel or Portugal from availability. However, this issue in the US can be resolved not earlier than 2017.

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[aszzz888]

Croatian War Office

And these, with whom are you going to fight?

[cniza]

Quote: aszzz888

Croatian War Office

And these, with whom are you going to fight?

The whole world has gone crazy, everyone is going to fight - the American program is in action, the lobby of the military-industrial complex rules.

[Tatyana]

After the war in Croatia, former military commanders came to power. However, as they say, to destroy - not to build. Practice shows that a person who has advanced in the destruction of everything during the war is psychologically incapable of rebuilding himself to build a prosperous society in peacetime. This, as Leon Trotsky showed, is that he is a brilliant organizer, and the organizer turned out to be nonexistent in peaceful construction. And so he was drawn to the continuation of the organization of the world proletarian revolution, until he was kicked out of the Soviet country.
Former Croatian military commanders also lacked literacy and the ability to lead the country's economy in peacetime. But they rose in power and no one can remove them now. As a result, the Croatian economy, after the war devastation, eke out a miserable existence, and the Croats themselves, under the guise of "refugees", flee from their country to the countries of Europe, throwing out their Croatian passports along the way.
The question is, what the hell did Croats need such national sovereignty? We would live peacefully with the Serbs, so no, they had to listen to the Americans!

[Orionvit]

Tatyana, let me disagree with you a little. In Croatia, warlords may also be at the helm, but they are all henchmen of the West, and among this brethren, as history shows, patriots do not smell. For comparison. How many talented leaders advanced in the USSR during and after the war? Lots of. The difference is only in the perception of one’s own country as a homeland, and not as feeders.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, in general, do not care about these followers of the Croatian Ustasha ... They are something like the Right Sector in Ukraine ... They betrayed a single people and decided that they are special and better than the Serbs ... Well, how straight Ukrainians are ... During their independence, nothing but they did what they gave the entire industry at the mercy of foreign "investors", and they bought everything up and went bankrupt and sold at the price of scrap metal))) ... Now they sit with their bare ass and beg for money))) ... The fate of traitors is always sad ... On the coat of arms of Croatia - the symbol of the Croatian Nazis, it was they who collaborated with Hitler and killed people ... I was especially pleased that the cost of renting some flying shit was estimated by the Croatian allies at $ 112 million per year)))) In Russia, this money can be bought several modern aircraft, for example a pair of Su-30MK or a bunch of MIGs)))))))))) But who will sell them now)))))))

[mishastich]

To answer this question, just look at the map of the Balkans and immediately there will be a lot of options. Former countries of Yugoslavia, Turkey, Albania, internal enemies. Evil Russian.))

[Thunderbolt]

Albania and Croatia are NATO members. And Serbia is a CSTO observer. For Croatia, the absence of the Air Force is not critical as long as they are in a military bloc. Brussels is more important than how many infantry they can set if they advance their policies in the Balkans or in foreign missions.

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: mishastich

just look at the map of the Balkans

- It was a powerful Yugoslavia. The Yankees broke firewood - a bunch of half-dead Lilliputians formed. Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro ... Without the help of an overseas uncle, they fit with pipettes muskami measured.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: aszzz888

And these, with whom are you going to fight?

They are a colleague, a member of NATO, since 2009. Here the question is perhaps more appropriate, with no one, and for whom to fight. For NATO, of course.

[vovanpain]

There was once a single Yugoslavia, but here the Croats found their dill in it, now it’s like rogues that dill, that Croats.

[kil 31]

Do not chase you pop for cheapness. And so there is no money, but in general there is no money left. In short, about kakali last money on aviation.

bmpd
July 9th, 2014
As reported on July 7, 2014, the Croatian web resource www.jutarnji.hr, for the period from April 16 to the present, seven MiG-21 fighters arrived at the Croatian Air Force base in Ples from repairs in Ukraine [at the Odesaviaremservice State Enterprise], but accept the Croatian armed forces agreed only one.





According to a Croatian resource, when checking repaired aircraft, numerous problems were identified: radars do not work, the recognition system does not work, fuel leaks.

Five MiG-21s acquired by Croatia in Ukraine originally belonged to Yemen, but after the Yemenis refused to pay for the repairs, they became the property of Ukraine and stood for five years at an aircraft repair plant [Odesaviaremservice]. During the flight in Odessa, Ukrainian specialists significantly limited the testing of aircraft - they did not allow them to be tested at low altitudes at low speeds, etc., so that numerous problems were identified only in Croatia. Two two-seat MiGs belonging to Croatia were delivered from Ukraine, but the Croatian Air Force refused to accept these planes either due to numerous problems.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: vovanpain

now that's how rogues that dill, that croats.

Yeah, and some rogue people are repairing the aircraft of other rogues. In short, they found each other In my opinion, in vain the Croats trust the quality of the Ukrainian repair .. Or they do not care - anyway cheaper?

[Orionvit]

Each country has its own dill. They are called the liberal pro-Western democratic opposition.

[Uran]

Well, another 100 years will not be able)

[SANAY]

How with anyone !!!! With us. We are all enemies to them. And it’s clear why. Here it is, either you choose the side of Russia, or go to the dark side. All the small, naked, European countries always choose Americans. But what they will fight, if that - we see.

[Tor5]

I do not quite understand why they need combat aircraft at all?

[Mercenary]

Well, what about Russia after the occupation of the Baltic States, Ukraine, Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia Immediately on the way to the English Channel will conquer Croatia.
Only for her will the war begin!

[Orionvit]

Do not rush you. The Croats are well aware of what they were doing, like the Kosovo Albanians and the rest. And they also know very well that the Serbs have not forgotten anything, and they will have to answer in full. Here they will run out of Western loans, and we'll see.

[sgazeev]

Quote: aszzz888

repaired in Ukraine in 2013-2014,

[makst83]

wonderful world, however! Lease military equipment.

What the owner decides from behind the puddle, the Croatian falcons will fly on that.

[KBR109]

Croatian Josip Broz Tito does not spin in the coffin?

[Woodman]

Let them move on to something cheaper ... On balloons, for example ...

[valokordin]

Yes, and why should the Ustashi have airplanes, they want to fly for pleasure, let them enroll in an aero club, and let Migi give it to the Americans to strengthen their power.

[The black]

Then the same as the Latvians tanks. Schob Bulo.

[DIMA45R]

Why would they even have such a luxury, they would have scored. Let NATO protect them. All the same, their fate is controlled by others.

[Alexey RA]

Thus, the country's budget is unlikely to be able to afford to purchase or lease Saab JAS-39 Gripen or KAI FA-50 fighters, which were considered as candidates. According to estimates, the rental price of JAS-39 will be 800 million kuna ($ 112 million) per year, which is unacceptable.
The Croatian military department is trying to get help from the Americans to purchase the F-16A / B squadron in Israel or Portugal from the availability of

They still think sho in Israel will be cheaper?

[Primus pilus]

Ruined Yugoslavia and now complains.

[samoletil18]

To mark the Air Force and an An-2 pair, it’s enough, and they already have an MiG-21 ... And in case of a grandiose shooter, they still give up or outside help.
On the other hand, it’s good that they have a MiG-21, and not more demanding cars - after repair in Ukraine and they could not be counted, like the An-32 Indians,

[Arktidianets]

But in the EU, and that sounds proud! And do not care that soon they will remain without pants, joining the great is expensive!

[Gormenghast]

But it is a member of NATO.

[V.ic]

So I think: why "chess players" need new fighters?

[barclay]

Ustashi achieved their happiness and independence. Now let them take the example of the Baltic great nations. Their sky is reliably covered by foreign military aircraft. Now they are only allowed to sweep and wash toilets for foreign pilots.

[Ros 56]

And what, dill still repair planes, especially the MiG-21, we probably didn’t even have them in operation before the collapse in the Union? However, the news. Yes, and I agree with valokordinom, to hell with them planes, let tourism develop, but NATA protects them. They collect money from everyone, but they don’t do anything.

[Orionvit]

The last regiment, which was armed with the MIG-21 (albeit in the reconnaissance version), was based in Novo Sysoevka near Arsenyev, in the Primorsky Territory. In 1990 when the brother served there, they were still there.

[poacher]

with such a public debt, paper planes do, and then if there is enough money for paper.

[Wiruz]

It is a pity that the public debt does not prevent the Americans from riveting planes

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Wiruz

It is a pity that the public debt does not prevent the Americans from riveting planes

For the United States, new aircraft is a vital necessity, a guarantee of the possibility of an increase in public debt. For aircraft carriers and planes are the only real security for the dollar.
You do not want to take bucks? Then we are already flying to you!

By the way, bmpd recently had "an interesting picture-table of the average age and combat readiness of the US Air Force fleet" - for the main types of vehicles that fight on the BV:

http://cdn.tegna-tv.com/media/2016/01/15/GGM/MilitaryTimes/635884699447354247-AF
-Plane-Grid.jpg
A good illustration of the situation in the land of the elves, which our totalitarian liberals who talk about "Russian rusty airplanes from the time of the scoop, half of which cannot rise into the air".

[igorra]

From the glorious fighter there was an apparatus for racing on dry salt lakes. Another country from industrialization is moving into the category of purely agricultural.

[Ros 56]

Quote: igorra

From the glorious fighter there was an apparatus for racing on dry salt lakes.

If you are about the MiG-21, then they are still in service somewhere, there are about 500 cars, so they can be inserted on occasion.

[shultc]

Croatia can not afford new aircraft

And also tanks, cars, a fur coat for the wife, new sneakers, then at least get a cat!

[BOB044]

Croatia will help that country in the purchase of aircraft. To whom they will lick the ass of the ray. So lie harder and something will be in your tongue.

[Bulrumeb]

The Croatian Air Force is in a deplorable state: currently only eight MiG-21bis and two combat training MiG-21UM are ready to take off

nothing, the European Union will protect them if that

[rotmistr60]

The Croatian Ustash needed to turn to Germany out of the old habit. True, there are also problems with the Air Force, but maybe they would throw money. German planes flew over Yugoslavia (after the end of the 2nd MV) and in the early 90s.

[APASUS]

It is a little strange written, but there is even no doubt that the Americans will transfer their rubbish to Croatia in the DEBT. To have another country on the hook, even as small as Croatia's sense of the whole US policy. And whatever problems arise between the states, the Americans can always squeeze Croats out of debt. ..........

[pts-m]

Ustash flyas are especially needed in the future battle with crows, which will soon be removed from the urine fields due to lack of food, since the Urinovites’s fields are overgrown with weeds due to the lack of fuel for processing their tillage units, everything goes to the atom.

[avg-mgn]

[I]

Quote: aszzz888

Croatian War Office

And these with whom fight going to?

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Well, well, there are no planes and tanks, so there will be no attendants for maintenance. And there will be no attendants for maintenance, nothing to saw.

[4ekist]

For Croatia and 8Mig-21bis too much.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Quote: vovanpain

now that's how rogues that dill, that croats.

Yeah, and some rogue people are repairing the aircraft of other rogues. In short, they found each other In my opinion, in vain the Croats trust the quality of the Ukrainian repair .. Or they do not care - anyway cheaper?

Do not underestimate. In Zaporozhye at the MIGremont plant where these aircraft were being repaired, specialists have remained since the time of the Union. If the material heritage of the Soviet Union has already been eaten, then Soviet specialists have remained. Not much, but there is. It strikes another. Not everyone supports today's Ukraine, and please work for the Ukrainian defense industry. Somehow it all smacks of duplicity.

[hartlend]

Well, he can’t afford it, and so on. This is so clear.