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Coming soon: 90 dollars per barrel

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Vladimir Putin explained that oil prices are falling because of its overproduction, as well as because of "problems" in China. Valentina Matvienko has a different opinion: she stated that at a low price there is a “man-made factor”, namely “a political component”. As for Western experts, some of them do not believe in the low price of oil ... Bank Goldman Sachs, for example, does not abandon its forecasts, according to which in the first half of this year the price of a barrel of oil will be 40 dollars. In addition, some oil-producing countries are threatening to cut oil production.


At a meeting of the inter-regional forum "ONF", Vladimir Putin said that the fall in oil prices is due to its overproduction. He also linked the fall in prices with "problems" in China.

“China is our partner, ally, we have very good relations with them, with the Chinese, but unfortunately, you know, and they now have problems, their growth rates are seriously suffering,” the president quotes. RIA News". - From this, due to the fact that the volume of the economy and the world economy is shrinking, and the cost of a barrel of oil depends on it: because of the overproduction of this fuel, it is not consumed by today's economy in the way economists thought before. This is one of the reasons for today's difficulties. ”

So, the wise Russian authorities made a discovery: oil "is not consumed by today's economy in the way that economists thought before." The trouble is overproduction.

Amazing explanations of these economists! They would read books on the good old political economy. There, both “overproduction”, and “overstocking”, and “crises of the capitalist economy” are constantly mentioned. Whoever remembers just a bit of Marx knows that: a bearded theorist of communism believed it was overproduction that was the cause of economic crises. Marx's theses moved to the Soviet economic textbooks, where the term "overproduction" was also often used. In the 21st century, Marx became popular again, and not only in Russia, but also in the West. And not because of the unconvincing sermons of communism, but because of the logical explanation of the permanent crises of capitalism.

Tov. Marx, moreover, taught (in general) that the crisis essentially constitutes a “rebellion” of the productive forces against production relations: the productive forces need not market management, but planned ones, which imply state, and then, under communism, national ownership of the means of production. Later Keynesian theory borrowed something from Marx: in times of serious crises, “bourgeois” rulers, including in the USA, successfully resorted to government intervention in the market, deviating very far from the liberal ideas of Adam Smith and his followers.

As for the current Russian politicians at the helm, not all of them believe in overproduction alone. When it comes to oil, some talk about the political component of the current crisis.

For example, speaker of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko in an interview "Tape.ru" said that there is a political component in the formation of low oil prices. We quote:

“Unfortunately, the ruble exchange rate depends on oil prices. But I am inclined to support the opinion of a number of serious analysts who assert that there are no weighty reasons for such a low price for hydrocarbons. Yes, there are objective factors - a slowdown in the global economy and, accordingly, the level of oil consumption, a slowdown in China’s economy. However, there is also a man-made factor - I mean the political component. ”


What is such a "component"?

Lenta.ru did not receive a direct answer, the journalist had to be satisfied with indirect, containing a hint of overseas enemies:

“I remember that in the times of the Soviet Union, US President Ronald Reagan said that if we lower the price of oil to ten dollars, the economy of the USSR will collapse ...”


And those who arranged the political component added the work of the Russian rulers:

"And now we, the executive and legislative authorities, are forced to jointly prepare various scenarios for adjusting the budget, taking into account the further possible fall in the price of oil."


Matvienko does not think that “in the coming years” oil prices will rise to the previous level: “I am aware that hydrocarbon prices are unlikely to return to their previous level in the coming years.”

A slight increase in the price of "black gold" still ventured to predict the Minister of Economic Development of Russia Alexei Ulyukayev. In his opinion, the average annual price of oil in 2016 will be higher than 30 dollars per barrel. This will occur due to some increase in demand.

“The potential for recovery in them [oil prices] will be. Growth in demand is a fact; in 2015, by 1,5 million barrels the demand increased. The global economy has grown by 3%, which means that demand will surely grow, ”they are quoted as saying. "Vedomosti".

Amazingly, the western enemies of Russia are far more optimistic in the oil issue than the Russian soothsayers.

For example, the famous American investment bank Goldman Sachs believes that in the first half of 2016, the price of oil will be 40 dollars per barrel. Moreover, for oil, a “new bull market” is predicted from the end of 2016, due to a correction in the market equilibrium of supply and demand.

Two hypotheses "Goldman Sachs" leads Mixednews.ru.

1. The forecast for 40 dollars is based on unfilled volumes of oil storages. The increase in oil supplies creates additional demand for oil storage facilities, which leads to an increase in prices and contributes to the emergence of proposals for storage services.

2. The mentioned “bull market” starts at the end of 2016 of the year. Oil production at current prices in few places in the world can make a profit. At current prices, analysts say, companies do not make money on oil. But they continue to work, hoping for a change in the situation. What happens next? Either the companies run out of money for operating expenses, or they lose hope. Experts probably conclude that a combination of both factors will balance the markets.

There is an even more optimistic outlook for the oil market. And he also came from the USA.

American trader Pierre Anduran, previously famous for accurate predictions of world oil prices, predicted a growth in quotations in the next two years.

In an interview with television channel "Bloomberg" Mr. Andyuran said that the market has reached the bottom, and quotes will grow. According to him, in 2016, a barrel will cost 50 dollars, in 2017 - 70, in 2018 - even 90. The period of low prices this trader estimated maximum in 6 months. “We live in a world where low oil prices replace high ones. I really think that now the market has reached the bottom ", - quotes him RBC.

According to the trader, there are now many reasons for predicting a long-term trend for quotes growth. This includes the bankruptcy of a number of oil companies in conditions of low prices.

Finally, the March meeting of OPEC is expected.

How 12 reported on January TASS With reference to France Press, Nigeria’s Minister of Petroleum, Emmanuel Ibe Kachikwu, who chairs OPEC, called for convening an emergency summit of the organization in early March. The main objectives of the meeting, he said, is to revise the pricing policy of the cartel and even change the strategy of OPEC (if necessary).

Probably, the cartel members, as well as Kachikwu himself and OPEC Secretary General Abdullah Salem al-Badri, are experiencing a real panic. This is evidenced by Kachikva’s emotional utterance, which Interfax: “I just hope that the price of oil will not fall below $ 30 per barrel, in the name of all that is holy. I think it is worth waiting for the situation to deteriorate before it improves. ”

Panic in the ranks of OPEC is confirmed by informal negotiations with non-oil producers, including Russia. Cartel states are already conducting these negotiations, discussing the possibility of reducing production in the future in order to maintain oil prices. This was said by Kakchku himself.

Undoubtedly, the decision to reduce production by OPEC countries, if only it will be made in early March, will also affect the price of "black gold".

Decisions to reduce production in the coming days can be made by those countries that are not included in the cartel.

The Sultanate of Oman is ready to cut oil production by 5-10% to support oil prices in the market and encourages other countries to follow his example. This was stated by the Minister of Oil of Oman, Muhammad bin Hamad Al-Rumhi.

According to him, which leads Rosbalt, oil production in the country reaches almost a million barrels per day, and the state does not plan to increase the figure in 2016.

Thus, we’ll add, the trends of the oil market may break in the coming year. Western experts, unlike some Russian politicians, do not see any “political component” in the relative cheapness of oil. The bankruptcies of American companies that extract shale oil also refute this hypothesis.

American experts, adhering to not Marxist, but quite liberal economic views, believe that the market is fully capable of adjusting itself, and hope that the recession will be replaced by a rise. True, their confidence does not guarantee the end of an era of capitalist crises. Overproduction remains overproduction.

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  1. Mera joota
    Mera joota 27 January 2016 06: 17
    27
    Coming soon: 90 dollars per barrel

    Again, benz will rise in price ...
    1. Finches
      Finches 27 January 2016 06: 35
      52
      Our price of gasoline does not depend on fluctuations in the price of oil - it rises uniquely and constantly! I think that even if oil were handed out for free, gasoline would still rise in price - the specifics of the Russian economy ... laughing

      And games with the cost of black gold always have political motives!
      1. anfil
        anfil 27 January 2016 07: 08
        +3
        It is necessary for Russian craftsmen to invent a pure oil engine ... damn then the prices for refining will increase, it is necessary to switch to water. winked
        1. umah
          umah 27 January 2016 09: 50
          15
          Here is just a song in the subject:
          1. Throw
            Throw 27 January 2016 13: 44
            10
            And so, the question is:
        2. marshes
          marshes 27 January 2016 14: 51
          0
          Quote: anfil
          It is necessary for Russian craftsmen to invent a pure oil engine ... damn then the prices for refining will increase, it is necessary to switch to water.

          The diesel engine, in theory, can also work on coal dust. There from compression. By the way, oil carriers, they work on crude oil.
          1. Horst78
            Horst78 27 January 2016 18: 12
            +2
            Quote: marshes
            The diesel engine, in theory, can also work on coal dust.
            Seriously?
            Quote: marshes
            . By the way, oil tankers, they work on crude oil.
            What are you belay and oil tanker producers didn’t even know wassat
            And the first and second nonsense. Where did you get education with such conclusions?
            1. marshes
              marshes 27 January 2016 18: 26
              0
              Quote: Horst78
              The diesel engine, in theory, can also work on coal dust. Seriously?

              Seriously laughing
              Quote: Horst78
              But you and the producers of oil carriers did not even know

              Well, can you explain to the Koreans. Which oil tankers produce, oh Americans, and maybe now the Koreans .... laughing
              1. marshes
                marshes 27 January 2016 18: 53
                0
                Quote: marshes
                Seriously?

                Even in flour! laughing
              2. Horst78
                Horst78 27 January 2016 18: 56
                +1
                Quote: marshes
                Quote: Horst78
                But you and the producers of oil carriers did not even know

                Well, can you explain to the Koreans. Which oil tankers produce, oh Americans, maybe now the Koreans .... laughing

                Do you know the difference between "oil tankers" and "oil tankers"? Study.
                Quote: marshes
                Quote: Horst78
                The diesel engine, in theory, can also work on coal dust. Seriously?

                Seriously laughing

                Learn how to configure the fuel injection pump (do you even know what it is?). And for one generally a course of fuel equipment. And then in BOSCH I can’t laugh wassat
                1. marshes
                  marshes 27 January 2016 19: 15
                  -1
                  Quote: Horst78

                  Do you know the difference between "oil tankers" and "oil tankers"? Study.

                  I generalized this.
                  Quote: Horst78
                  Learn how to configure the fuel injection pump (do you even know what it is?). And for one generally a course of fuel equipment. And then in BOSCH I can’t laugh

                  What is STOshnik? laughing headstock laughing What's Bosch, When everything was "conceived" depending on the compression ratio, Diesel, considered coal dust. laughing Even they weren’t able to create an engine in the 40s, and for what if gas came from Romania, by the way they were then from coal dust, they produced synthetic gasoline, GDR. That’s the most 91. Which ZIL 131 were digested.
                  What does the general course of organic chemistry describe? laughing This is not a candidate, bachelor's degree. laughing
                  1. Horst78
                    Horst78 27 January 2016 19: 26
                    0
                    Quote: marshes
                    swamps (2) EE Today, 19: 15 ↑ New

                    Quote: Horst78

                    Do you know the difference between "oil tankers" and "oil tankers"? Study.

                    I generalized this.

                    I noticed.
                    Quote: marshes
                    Quote: Horst78
                    Learn how to configure the fuel injection pump (do you even know what it is?). And for one generally a course of fuel equipment. And then in BOSCH I can’t laugh

                    What is STO operator? laughing a man bred on grandmas laughing What is there Bosch, When everything was "conceived" depending on the degree of compression, Diesel, we considered coal dust. laughing Even the nemchura could not create an engine in the 40s, and for what if gasoline came from Romania, by the way, they then produced from coal dust, sentimental gasoline, the GDR.That is the 91. Which ZIL 131 was digested.
                    What does the general course of organic chemistry describe? laughing Here is not a candidate, undergraduate. laughing

                    Specialized education allows you to answer this way. Firstly, marine diesel engines are "omnivorous", so they can even run on oil. Modern ones have such a fuel system that if you refuel from a village tractor, you will have to change the engine along with the fuel equipment. Want to refuel with coal dust, your right. By the way, expand your knowledge of "synthetic fuel" from the experience of South Africa, when Apartheid was under sanctions hi
                    As my history teacher at the Tomsk Polytechnic University said, "Know, it's not drunk about Confucius to drink ..." Draw conclusions.
                    1. marshes
                      marshes 27 January 2016 19: 40
                      +1
                      Quote: Horst78
                      Profile education allows you to answer that way.

                      Which one in FIG, profile education, I can knock on your door. laughing
                      Quote: Horst78
                      Modern ones have such a fuel system that if you refuel from a village tractor, you will have to change the engine along with the fuel equipment. Want to refuel coal dust,

                      At the expense of coal dust, it was at the beginning of 1910, by the way it was considered. And the engines that worked from "lamp gas" were also cool. In the war of a lorry, etc. ran on gas generators.
                      Quote: Horst78
                      "synthetic fuel"

                      KAZNII energetics, Jews threw 300 pieces of Baku in the 90s, they made fuel from coal. smile But it was gorgeous at -10 outside temp.ry. laughing
                      Tomsk flight, something .... better than Moscow. laughing
                      1. Horst78
                        Horst78 27 January 2016 19: 44
                        0
                        Quote: marshes
                        Tomsk flight, something .... better than Moscow. laughing

                        And what immediately is not the Massachusetts Institute of Technology? Moscow in the world is also not quoted lol
                      2. marshes
                        marshes 27 January 2016 19: 52
                        0
                        Quote: Horst78
                        And what immediately is not the Massachusetts Institute of Technology? Moscow in the world is also not quoted

                        For me it’s not a problem, here’s the age. And so in Boston even and there are relatives. laughing
                2. Horst78
                  Horst78 27 January 2016 19: 34
                  -1
                  Quote: marshes
                  What is STOshnik? laughing

                  Technician for the repair and maintenance of motor vehicles. soldier
                  1. marshes
                    marshes 27 January 2016 19: 57
                    0
                    Quote: Horst78
                    Technician for the repair and maintenance of motor vehicles.

                    What kind of transport? laughing
                    Here is my list-ZAZ 968M, IL-414 ---- Lech 570.
                    By the way, repair hodovka, engines, pulling bodies .... paintwork ... laughing
                    And so on the little things ..., furniture, advertising.
                    First education ... Border. laughing
                    1. Horst78
                      Horst78 27 January 2016 21: 07
                      0
                      Quote: marshes
                      What kind of transport? laughing

                      Unlike the "garages", "garage" We were taught not to repair (
                      Quote: marshes
                      Here is my list-ZAZ 968M, IL-414 ---- Lech 570.
                      By the way, repair hodovka, engines, pulling bodies .... paintwork ... laughing
                      ) and look for solutions to repair. And with such a list of equipment, then Yes, you see Aerobatics for repair.
                      Quote: marshes
                      First education ... Border. laughing
                      First education "Have a BRAIN". Good luck with
                      Quote: marshes
                      repair hodovka, engines, pulling bodies .... paintwork ... laughing
                      And so on the little things ..., furniture, advertising.
                    2. marshes
                      marshes 27 January 2016 21: 14
                      0
                      Quote: Horst78
                      Unlike the "garages", "garage" We were taught not to repair (

                      The coolest thing is that among the garage grammatics you can find a doctor of science. laughing
                      Quote: Horst78
                      ) and look for solutions to repair. And with such a list of equipment, then Yes, you see Aerobatics for repair.

                      Yes, there is such a thing, I can’t see the French. smile
                      Quote: Horst78
                      First education "Have a BRAIN". Good luck with

                      Thank you! I will have a brain, clients. laughing
                    3. Horst78
                      Horst78 27 January 2016 21: 48
                      -1
                      Quote: marshes
                      Thank you! I will have a brain, clients. laughing

                      Not at all, If your clients with the same qualifications, then you should be Abromovich wassat
  • Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 27 January 2016 07: 56
    +9
    Quote: Finches
    And games with the cost of black gold always have political motives!

    "American trader Pierre Andurand, previously famous for his accurate predictions of world oil prices, predicted an increase in quotations in the next two years"

    I watched the new American film "Selling Short", which is not about oil, but about real estate and mortgages, but the world of Wall Street is very indicative and what laws it lives by. The main message, as I understand it, is that a lot depends not at all on the real state of affairs, but on the hobbyists of the bigwigs. request
    1. olegfbi
      olegfbi 27 January 2016 08: 50
      16
      I will add, for understanding.
      About 90% !!! Oil transactions on exchanges are traded through derivatives and / or futures. In other words, 90% of oil transactions have NO relation to the real turnover of raw materials !!!
      The scheme is simple, to the disgrace: Put on increase or decrease, at a certain time. Further, on the date of the contract, closed the transaction and received a% profit or loss in the form of a difference in quotes. All!!!
      1. cap
        cap 27 January 2016 09: 26
        11
        Quote: olegfbi
        In other words, 90% of oil transactions have NO relation to the real turnover of raw materials !!!


        And not only the oil market. You +!

        "Lossy withdrawal: Investment bankers invented commodity futures to parasitize the real economy. am

        Profitable Takeaway: Commodity futures are used to hedge (reduce risk) by consumers and producers of commodities. Traders can use these tools in stock trading to their advantage, while providing the liquidity hedgers need. "

        "A futures contract or futures - (futures, from the English" future "- future) is a standard exchange contract, which is an obligation to deliver a certain commodity on a fixed date in the future.

        Futures is an American invention; futures trading began in Chicago in 1865 after the end of the American Civil War. However, noting the primacy of the Americans in the development and implementation of advanced forms of exchange trading, it should be remembered that the so-called rice coupons were traded on Japanese exchanges in the XNUMXth century, which can be considered, along with European forwards, as prototypes or prototypes of modern futures. "

        NB. Futures are traded only on exchanges.
        1. olegfbi
          olegfbi 27 January 2016 09: 46
          +2
          And to you +!
          It is written in great detail, but I tried to explain more simply.
        2. olegfbi
          olegfbi 27 January 2016 09: 46
          0
          And to you +!
          It is written in great detail, but I tried to explain more simply.
      2. stopkran
        stopkran 27 January 2016 16: 44
        0
        In-in, again predictors rub in about the "invisible hand" of the market. ))
      3. _my opinion
        _my opinion 27 January 2016 17: 56
        +1
        Quote: olegfbi
        I will add, for understanding.
        About 90% !!! Oil transactions on exchanges are traded through derivatives and / or futures. In other words, 90% of oil transactions have NO relation to the real turnover of raw materials !!!
        The scheme is simple, to the disgrace: Put on increase or decrease, at a certain time. Further, on the date of the contract, closed the transaction and received a% profit or loss in the form of a difference in quotes. All!!!

        in other words, they trade not in real oil, but in paper. It looks like another bubble.
        The question is, how much will the oil cost when this bubble bursts?
        1. demon1978
          demon1978 27 January 2016 21: 06
          0
          Quote: _my opinion
          The question is, how much will the oil cost when this bubble bursts?


          Answer: significantly less than now (at least 5-10 years, until markets recover from a global zilch)
  • heal
    heal 27 January 2016 11: 20
    0
    Quote: Finches
    I think that even if oil were handed out for free, gasoline would still rise in price - the specifics of the Russian economy ...

    Not economics is a specificity, but Putin's oligarchic managers.
  • aleks 62 next
    aleks 62 next 27 January 2016 15: 24
    0
    ..... I think that even if oil were handed out for free, gasoline would still have risen in price - the specifics of the Russian economy ...

    .......You are wrong.... belay ..... Ukrainian economists have calculated - even if the oil is 0, then they will have about 7 hryvnias / liter of gas .... laughing
    1. King, just king
      King, just king 27 January 2016 18: 38
      +3
      What's so funny? If oil is 0, then delivery-processing at the refinery, and delivery to the gas station at the expense of Papa Carlo or what?
  • Letun
    Letun 27 January 2016 07: 12
    15
    Quote: Mera Joota
    Coming soon: 90 dollars per barrel

    Again, benz will rise in price ...

    Yes, there will be 90. Last year, articles came out with forecasts of price rebounds as high as $ 200, this year they are already more modestly dreaming, you see, after a couple of years they will put up and start working laughing
  • olegfbi
    olegfbi 27 January 2016 08: 17
    11
    There is no direct connection between the cost of oil on the world market and the cost of a liter of gasoline in Russia, from the word AT ALL! For memory, I can make a little mistake, at a price of 1 liter. about 70% of gasoline are excise taxes, VAT, and production tax. Another 20 - 25% transportation and processing. Accordingly, the cost of oil itself in the price of gasoline in the corridor 5 - 10%. It should be borne in mind that within the country oil can cost the oil company, in the worst case scenario, $ 15 per barrel! So count!
    And so FUCKED !!! How long can you play swing in the foreign exchange market! Count "chop the tail in pieces" ???
    Well, crash the market ONCE once, as in 1998 !!! Yes, it really hurts, shock !!! BUT this is ONE TIME !!! And so already the 2nd year of people and small / medium businesses torment !!!
    1. Sashka
      Sashka 27 January 2016 11: 09
      +5
      Ordinary people, small businesses suffer. But here are our exporters, and indeed our whole economy is holding steady. And the secret is that the drop in oil prices is offset almost completely by the collapse of the ruble. Those. from the sale of oil in ruble terms we get almost the same. Accordingly, the state is less affected. Here you can think about who and why dropped the ruble ... Good day.
  • GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 27 January 2016 09: 22
    +6
    Surprisingly, the Ministry of Finance does not know anything, the Ministry of Economic Development does not know anything, no one dares to make any forecasts at all ... But the articles
    Coming soon: 90 dollars per barrel
    climb like mushrooms after rain, but why ... if not? Sick. The whole country "without saving wages" sits, and "of its own accord" and tastes all the charm of words, about 90 bucks a barrel ...
  • Riv
    Riv 27 January 2016 06: 20
    12
    I am encouraged by the fact that Ulyukaev announced an oil price of $ 30. He had never guessed correctly yet. But what if he was wrong as always, but in a big way? After all, the funniest thing will begin when those who are now playing to lower the price of oil, say: "Well, that's enough. It's time to cut the loot." - and try to raise prices again. But the loot suddenly does not want to get a haircut, and prices rise.

    Then laughter ... Have you heard the noise now? This Petrosyan fainted with envy.
    1. marshes
      marshes 27 January 2016 14: 58
      0
      Quote: Riv
      I am encouraged that Ulyukaev announced the price of oil at $ 30. He had never guessed correctly.

      In Kazakhstan, they’re vanging that by the end of the year oil will cost around $ 50-60 per barrel.
      http://tengrinews.kz/markets/kazahstanskiy-ekspert-prognoziruet-rost-tsen-neft-6
      0-287990 /
      Here is my question "gnaws", the rate of the PP and we have tied the short circuit to the cost of the barrel, I wonder if the rate will play back. laughing
      and then about dedolorization we have "songs" singing, it makes no sense when the nat. the currency is not stable.
      1. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 27 January 2016 15: 30
        0
        ....., I wonder if the course will play back. ...

        ..... "No way back" .... There was such a movie .... And its title reflects the realities of our pricing .... laughing
        1. marshes
          marshes 27 January 2016 15: 49
          0
          Quote: aleks 62 next
          ..... "No way back" .... There was such a movie .... And its title reflects the realities of our pricing ....

          So we play on the "public" that there is 5-7 tenge, plus or minus. On parity with the PP they keep 1PR-4,5-5 KZT, this is because of the open customs border and "Business interest".
  • Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 27 January 2016 06: 22
    -5
    Zadolbali these wet balls from Putin, promises.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 27 January 2016 06: 32
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir
      Zadolbali these wet balls from Putin, promises.

      Quote: Article
      “China is our partner, ally, we have very good relations with them, with the Chinese, but unfortunately, you know, they now have problems, their growth rates are seriously affected,” RIA Novosti quotes the president. - From this, due to the fact that the volume of the economy, the global economy is reduced, and the cost of a barrel of oil depends on this: the overproduction of this fuel is not consumed by the current economy as economists thought before. This is one of the reasons for today's difficulties. ”

      And where are the "promises" here, which "got you so tired" .. "marshal"? laughing
      1. Vladimyrych
        Vladimyrych 27 January 2016 06: 36
        14
        And I'm not only talking about this. He’s not promising anything everywhere. And our country is becoming (or has become) a promise country.
        By 2020, they promised so much where to go. And pakfa and pakda and pakta and sarmat and 100500 armast yes t15. Which president are such and performers. That's the sergeant.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 27 January 2016 07: 18
          +9
          Quote: Vladimir
          And I'm not just talking about it

          But I decided that you are commenting on the article .. wink

          Quote: Vladimir
          He doesn’t keep somewhere everywhere.

          This is your vision. I have a slightly different, please ..

          Quote: Vladimir
          And our country becomes (or has become) a promise country

          Nu-nu ... they promised, for example, an energy bridge to the Crimea - and they did. They promised in Syria to put things in order - they put them in. The ruble fell by more than half (for some reason, a separate song), and the passage in the electrician didn’t change much .. like the rent, by the way ..

          Quote: Vladimir
          By 2020, they promised so much where to go. And pakfa and pakda and pakta and Sarmatian and 100500 fit yes T15

          And the country - it doesn’t live alone, but in a world ... such a big one .. But in the world there are problems that are reflected in the country, inevitably. You seem to have forgotten about this.

          Quote: Vladimir
          That's the foreman

          I am the "foreman" - from this year only. Before that, there was a "four-star" here .. request

          And in life - the guards of art. lt retired if it is for real hi
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            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 27 January 2016 08: 37
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir
              You yourself don’t mind ... feeding fables?

              An interesting statement of the question what

              I, you see, do not feed on fables. I am working. And not in commerce at all wink

              And I see that not everything is so bad as many here are trying to draw. And it’s certainly better than in the unkind memory of 90 when Putin came to power (while still being practically nobody, in fact).

              And the fact that quickly a country like Russia cannot be changed (inertia, panimyash, big) is, IMHO, obviously.

              That's something like request
              1. Vladimyrych
                Vladimyrych 27 January 2016 10: 00
                +3
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                And the fact that quickly a country like Russia cannot be changed (inertia, panimyash, big) is, IMHO, obviously.

                Obviously IMHO or IMHO, obviously?
                If obviously IMHO then without a doubt. Nobody IMHO deprives you. And if the second option ... then the question is ...
                You can change relatively quickly. Not 16 years old - this is just obvious. The problem is the position of the promise. He does not hide that a Westerner. And this imposes so many obligations on him. Russia cannot be in the Western world for a banal reason - this Western slaughterhouse has arranged for us two genocides of the obvious and famous and it is not known how many are not discussed. So IMHO promisedkin can go the forest with his concept. I believe that Russia does not recognize this path.
                Threat.
                The only thing I’m afraid is that without recognizing this path, Russia will do with it what they have done with Gaddafi and after that a hundred years will shed tears. And this once again will stop the development of the country.
                Russian rebellion is terrible ... Not I said ...
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 27 January 2016 10: 26
                  +1
                  Quote: Vladimir
                  Obviously IMHO or IMHO, obviously?

                  I translate: it’s obvious to me personally that any attempts to drastically change a country like the Russian Federation will not lead to anything good. Since this is obvious to me, In My Humble Opinion, in my humble opinion, I mean.

                  So clearer?

                  Quote: Vladimir
                  He does not hide that the Westerner

                  And what kind of beast is this - "Westerner"? This is not the one that annexes the Crimea and climbs "across the (striped) dad" in Syria? laughing

                  Then I am a "Westerner" too, write down wink

                  Quote: Vladimir
                  Russia cannot be in the Western world for a banal reason - this Western slaughterhouse has arranged for us two genocides of the obvious and famous and it is not known how many are not discussed

                  Japan tripled the atomic bombing + also not atomic bombing, but much worse. As a result, Japan is in the Western world, and the country is not one of the latter.

                  This is not me saying that Russia has a place "in the Western world", I only mean that with arguments you have ... not very request

                  Quote: Vladimir
                  I believe that Russia does not recognize this path

                  You already answered yourself above:

                  Quote: Vladimir
                  You can continue to "believe holy ..."

                  Dixi
                  1. Vladimyrych
                    Vladimyrych 27 January 2016 12: 28
                    +1
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Japan tripled the atomic bombing + also not atomic bombing, but much worse. As a result, Japan is in the Western world, and the country is not one of the latter.

                    Well, after that ... I don't want to talk to you at all. Even if you don’t understand THIS, I don’t envy your "unhappy". The electorate pumped up ... belay
                  2. twviewer
                    twviewer 27 January 2016 17: 44
                    0
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    This is not the one that annexes the Crimea and climbs "across the (striped) dad" in Syria?

                    and how do you think the striped Old Man Smoked differs from the bald-headed Michal Ivanovich? I don’t see a fundamental difference. And the fact that the right hand of liberalism quarreled with the left - there is nothing surprising, some have a hemisphere in dissonance.
                2. znorick
                  znorick 27 January 2016 11: 47
                  +7
                  An example from the history of the Fatherland:
                  16 years after the Great Victory, the first Soviet citizen was in space! This is a very striking and revealing example.
                  And these members of the cooperative for 16 years only engaged in the pipe.
                  1. znorick
                    znorick 27 January 2016 13: 47
                    +3
                    Someone has already set the cons. Apparently they are protesting against the fact that our Gagarin was the first in space and that the USSR was capable of becoming the first in the world in many high-tech industries for 16 years from the post-war ruins.

                    I wonder how long the Zaputinists will support the Lake cooperative, and with it the oligarchic-clan-liberal-antinar
              2. heal
                heal 27 January 2016 11: 24
                +4
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                that quickly a country like Russia cannot be changed

                Does he have a desire? So far it is clear that he is making money, but friends, relatives, oligarchs do not interfere with the same thing. One Serdyukov and Vasilyeva are worth.
            2. Former
              Former 27 January 2016 08: 51
              30
              Similarly!
              Last night, something broke and I exhausted something, this watch, apparently getting old ...

              In general, we "bit" a little with the young boy (we must apologize today, we still work together).

              What was the reason?
              Yes, I just saw myself young in this excellent specialist, sociable and cheerful guy
              - Everything will be fine, after 20 years everything will work out ...

              Well, I was "wound up"
              -Because I also already believed 30 years ago in the sweet promises of Judas with the map of America on the "forehead", then Yeltsin and our "Infallible" ...

              And now more than 30 years of damned "perestroika" have passed ...
              He survived and was able to stay afloat, to ensure a decent life for his family only thanks to himself.

              No support from the State, no help, just the "hand of" shit "in my wallet.

              Do you think I did not deserve respect and help from the State?
              Possible.
              Yes, in general, I don’t really need support either - you just need to see that you are working for the Country (as it was in the USSR), not for another organized crime group.

              But I think that I, like many honest hard workers for the Country, have done a lot - 9 neglected fields, a power unit, an oil refinery, 3 high-voltage substations, my own TNKhK, and how many small and inconspicuous objects?

              He paid taxes, raised 2 children.
              I think I have every right to judge and talk about what is boiling!

              I'm terribly tired of the "talking shop", I'm tired of shaking the boiled "noodles" off my ears ...
              Tired of eternal "crises" and constant waiting for "zapadla" - 30 years of "perestroika" is too much for one person ...

              Again, they promise us prosperity in 20 years ...
              And I...
              I DO NOT BELIEVE!!! this thief!
              And no one will convince me of anything else!

              And there are many people like me in our country.
              1. Platonich
                Platonich 27 January 2016 09: 52
                10
                Well done! I am the same and support you in everything! I also did a lot for the country - I am a Soviet civil engineer! And in that "difficult communist" past I was very much appreciated and the state helped me and my family not with nonsense, as it is now, but really - both materially and spiritually !!!
              2. OMEDB
                OMEDB 27 January 2016 10: 57
                +5
                Quote: Former
                And there are many people like me in our country.

                Believe me, not a few hi
                1. heal
                  heal 27 January 2016 11: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: OMEDB
                  Believe me, not a few

                  Join.
              3. heal
                heal 27 January 2016 11: 27
                +4
                Quote: Former
                Yes, I just saw myself young in this excellent specialist, sociable and cheerful guy
                - Everything will be fine, after 20 years everything will work out ...

                After 20 years, he will see clearly, but it will be too late, life will begin to decline.

                Quote: Former
                Again, they promise us prosperity in 20 years ...

                This will not happen until the Putin system is replaced. And I want to live now, and not in 20 years.

                Quote: Former
                I DO NOT BELIEVE!!! this thief!

                You are not alone.
              4. epsilon571
                epsilon571 27 January 2016 12: 44
                +2
                Former RU Today
                I DO NOT BELIEVE!!! this thief!


                Our government has longed for a Russian club, it’s time to have a little fun! Like fleas jump on their bald head, people are reassured, and things are still there. I can not understand what we tolerate? To all of them fools and a club on the head, and Livanova - a bastard - with rods, rods, and peas! laughing
              5. andrew42
                andrew42 27 January 2016 14: 20
                +2
                Yeah. I agree with you. Since 1990, it has been a solid Groundhog Day. And the recipe is simpler than a steamed turnip: the capital punishment for the Hero of our time, that is, the "manager" for stealing over 1 million rubles, and 15 for damage over 10 million rubles. And everything will fall into place.
            3. heal
              heal 27 January 2016 11: 23
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir
              He promised the thirteenth year as a guarantor and says the same thing from message to message.

              Actually, he has been in power since 2000.

              Quote: Vladimir
              You yourself don’t mind ... feeding fables?

              But do not feed the cheers of the Putriots with bread, give new (or old) tales to their idol to listen to.
              1. Rastas
                Rastas 27 January 2016 19: 07
                +1
                Do not bother them. They live on their mantras. And with pleasure they will tell you about getting up and going down, and about the fact that Putin has won everything, and about the fact that Putin is not Putin. In general, nothing new. It's time to get used to, you can’t fix these.
          2. taram taramych
            taram taramych 27 January 2016 09: 31
            +1
            soldier Keep it up, Guard!
          3. Platonich
            Platonich 27 January 2016 09: 46
            +6
            And I’m the captain, but the construction battalion, but I do not regret it !!! Hello to the army team !!!
          4. In search
            In search 27 January 2016 10: 04
            11
            And here are some more Putin’s promises that have come true.
            - In 2004, every resident of Russia will pay twice less for heat and electricity than now (2000).
            - In 2005, every citizen of Russia will receive a share of the use of Russia's natural resources (especially mesmerizing, isn't it?)
            - In 2006, everyone will have a job by profession.
            - By 2008, each family will have their own comfortable housing worthy of the third millennium, regardless of the level of today's income.
            - By 2008, Chechnya and the entire North Caucasus will become a tourist and resort "Mecca" of Russia.
            So what is made of this? But this is a small part of what we were promised!
            1. Private27
              Private27 27 January 2016 10: 37
              +4
              Hang noodles on ears do not carry bags! In short, Anderson. am
            2. heal
              heal 27 January 2016 11: 28
              +1
              Each time he promises to promise even more.
            3. Vadim237
              Vadim237 27 January 2016 18: 10
              +1
              I don’t remember what he promised such a thing - it seems that someone on the market said something from the rubric, while others translated it.
          5. znorick
            znorick 27 January 2016 11: 42
            -1
            Quote: Vladimir
            And our country becomes (or has become) a promise country

            Nu-nu ... they promised, for example, an energy bridge to the Crimea - and they did. They promised in Syria to restore order - they impose ..


            And they promised a lot more, but did the opposite.
      2. Mera joota
        Mera joota 27 January 2016 07: 05
        +5
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        And where are the "promises" here, which "got you so tired" .. "marshal"?

        Indeed, he did not promise, but prophesied:
        If world prices remain at $ 80, then all production will collapse, the main oil-producing countries also have a budget of $ 80 with a small

        And more:
        The Russian budget is made up at the rate of $ 96 per barrel, now it is lower than $ 96, but I do not see any tragedy here. Firstly, now, I think that the price will equalize, adjust, especially since it is not interested in keeping it at a fairly low bar of 80, lower or slightly higher than dollars,
      3. Platonich
        Platonich 27 January 2016 09: 42
        +2
        This is not a very good partner, in vain you hope so. This is a very smart, cunning and treacherous ... ally and it is very difficult to negotiate with him at all levels! This is a real hegemon of the future world economy, and it is not known who is better - the USA or China!
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      5. Arbogast
        Arbogast 28 January 2016 08: 36
        0
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        And where are the "promises" here, which so "bored" you ..
        Well, at least .. repeat
        Google on YouTube "Putin was outraged by the prices of housing and communal services", you will find a video containing his indignations for 12 years. The price of these indignations is 0, nothing changes. It will be like with gasoline prices)))))))) .... .......
        1999 Putin: “It is impossible for any sane person to explain why gas prices have risen 1,5 times in our country, in an oil-producing country,” Prime Minister Putin said at a cabinet meeting.
        2001 Putin: We must go for real gas prices
        About the same in the States. The cost of gasoline is three times more expensive than ours ... That's why we have gathered today with you in order to discuss this topic and work out a clear timetable for moving in the right direction. [Here he is - the same clever maneuver!]
        2005 Putin dissatisfied with rising gas prices. Ministers reported to the head of state on the state of affairs in the country's economy. One of the hot topics is the rise in fuel prices. A. Zhukov told the president that at the next meeting, the government will consider amendments to the budget for this year. First of all, these amendments are associated with a rise in price in the fuel market.
        2006 It is necessary to react promptly and monitor the rise in gasoline prices, Putin believes: “As for real prices, they are really high. And for oil products domestically, they grew by more than 17 percent over the entire year. Very high growth ... The government should ... promptly react and still influence pricing.
        2007 Putin wants to reduce the excise tax on high-quality gasoline. The excise rate on high-quality gasoline should be reduced, said Russian President Vladimir Putin. Work should continue on reforming the excise system.
        2008 Putin promised to deal with high gasoline prices. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has promised that the government will do everything possible to reduce the prices of petroleum products and gasoline.
        2009 Putin demanded that gasoline prices be returned to the level of 2008 of the year. Fuel and lubricant suppliers should return to the 08 price level and even lower them a little lower.
        2010 Putin believes that gasoline prices in Russia are too high. “I believe that gasoline prices in Russia are too high. We are trying to fight this.
        2011 (February) Putin became interested in gas prices
        “I am instructing the FAS to immediately begin an antitrust investigation on any facts of overpricing fuel prices,” the head of government said on February 9.
        Putin promised to completely abolish the transport tax with an increase in the excise tax on gasoline. The government of the Russian Federation is considering the issue of abolishing transport tax with an increase in the excise tax on fuel, Prime Minister Putin said on the eve.
        (December) Putin: We have not abolished the transport tax, but excise taxes on gasoline will be raised. “Transport tax was not abolished at the request of working governors” ..
        2012 This year, the time to fight gas prices has not come yet. The government agreed to freeze energy prices right before the presidential election. Well, then the oilmen will come off properly, closer to summer. Then the time will come for the lone warrior to set foot on the warpath again.
    2. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 27 January 2016 06: 42
      +8
      It used to be ... to carry out from the fields how much buckwheat was collected and rye per hectare. And everyone understood - if not enough, we will buy in Canada. The grandmother kept cans under the bed, she remembered the military hunger. How we all quickly forgot.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 27 January 2016 07: 19
        +4
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        How we all quickly forgot

        That's for sure. Man is such an animal - he quickly gets used to the good ..
        1. Boos
          Boos 27 January 2016 07: 54
          +7
          Animal? I disagree! Man sounds proud, but they are not in our government. In the government, those "who quickly got used to good things," but only for themselves.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 27 January 2016 08: 05
            +2
            Quote: Boos
            Animal? I do not agree!

            Okay. Mammal lol

            Quote: Boos
            Man sounds proud, but they are not in our government. In government, those "who quickly got used to good things," but only for themselves

            You about Thomas, and you about Yerema .. do not care about the government-you look around .. or in the mirror wink

            I know for myself - getting used to the good is easy. Wean later - oh, how difficult ..

            And it’s not me so ... strange, it’s tightly sewn in human nature yes
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        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 27 January 2016 09: 49
          +6
          quickly gets used to good ..
          And don’t say I still can’t forget the Soviet Union.
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    3. guzik007
      guzik007 27 January 2016 10: 19
      +5
      Zadolbali these wet balls from Putin, promises.
      -------------------------------------------------- -
      I did not notice the promises, but something else is disturbing. In words, import substitution, the growth of industries and other blablabla, in fact, only one thought is in the head in a campaign: when, when, when will the barrel go up for sale?
      Well, Valka, half a cup as an economic guru, is something at all!
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 27 January 2016 20: 03
        +1
        Quote: guzik007
        In words, import substitution,

        If you say the word "import substitution" three times and at the same time cross yourself, you can safely sell Chinese consumer goods laughing
        1. marshes
          marshes 27 January 2016 20: 13
          0
          Quote: Captain45
          If you say the word "import substitution" three times and at the same time cross yourself, you can safely sell Chinese consumer goods

          I rent an apartment, plumbing, I thought the Russian Federation, according to the stickers. China. laughing Also for spinning. laughing
  • Yak28
    Yak28 27 January 2016 06: 23
    22
    We have that $ 90 per barrel, that 9, that 900 all the same, everything rises in price, it’s not hot or cold for ordinary hard workers.
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    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 27 January 2016 14: 20
      +3
      Quote: Yak28
      hard workers from this is not hot not cold.

      I hate this word - hard worker! A worker - yes, that's right, but a hard worker ... a "goner", "poor fellow", "hopelessness" immediately comes to mind negative
      1. atalef
        atalef 27 January 2016 14: 28
        +2
        Quote: Bayonet
        and a hard worker ..., immediately comes to mind "goner", "poor fellow", "hopelessness"

        Hi Sasha !!
        Recalled
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  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 27 January 2016 06: 27
    0
    I'm already tired of talking about oil. Chamomile, damn it - "loves, does not love .."

    What a sensible thread would be written, or something ..

    (Yawning): Boo-oooooo .. request
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 27 January 2016 12: 16
      -6
      Well, cat man, bored with you ?!
      Based on your comments, my purely personal assumption is that you are probably sitting in some kind of "government office", which under Putin has been divorced immeasurably, with a good budget salary (and even more stable) - that's what you defend your "virtue" with foam at the mouth!
      And there are millions of "hard workers" like you in Russia who don't want to change anything in this life and in the country itself - EVERYTHING IS GOOD FOR YOU!
      That's it for you, millions of supporters of power, and the calculation of Putin and his friends, thieves, oligarchs!
      With your "voluptuous life attitude" you (millions of "blessed") help this government continue to plunder the country and people!
      That is why you are yawning and you are bored!

      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 27 January 2016 12: 31
        +4
        Quote: kepmor
        Based on your comments

        There are slightly fewer 3000s .. which ones do you mean?

        Quote: kepmor
        you are sitting, probably, in some "state office", which under Putin divorced immeasurably

        Amendment: the "desk" was founded under Stalin back ..

        Quote: kepmor
        with a good budget salary (while also stable)

        Not complaining. In general, I am an expensive little animal, such a specialty. However, before almost a year I was looking for work, yes. By the way - then too .. did not complain, I have a low level of needs laughing

        Quote: kepmor
        so you defend your "virtue" with foam at the mouth!

        I do not understand where you saw the foam there. And the topic of oil - every junalug remembers it when there is not enough food .. a fertile topic - whatever you write - everything goes, and you don’t have to answer for the market - all the prophets mess up ..

        I’m talking about this, and you - about what?

        Quote: kepmor
        That's it for you, millions of supporters of power, and the calculation of Putin and his friends, thieves, oligarchs!
        With your "voluptuous life attitude" you (millions of "blessed") help this government continue to plunder the country and people!

        Oh, I have already been recorded as enemies of the people .. and my "position in life" has been calculated .. cool good

        Site rules do not allow swearing, therefore:

        - Colonel! Forest, field, and peat bog - march !!

        Wolf, mlyn, messing .. wang unfinished, damn it wassat
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 27 January 2016 12: 38
          +2
          Judging by your "hysterical reaction", I have correctly described your "voluptuous life position"!
          I have the honor ...
        2. sleeping sayan
          sleeping sayan 27 January 2016 13: 04
          -3
          "not a cheap animal." So, we saw you, in the arms of K. Sobchak. Sit in a gilded cage, look, you will miss a haircut.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 27 January 2016 18: 08
            -1
            Quote: sleeping Sayan
            "not a cheap animal." So, we saw you, in the arms of K. Sobchak. Sit in a gilded cage, look, you will miss a haircut.

            - Literacy pull up - Extra commas in places. I counted three, not counting ..
            - I have nothing to do with my aunt horse, here you get bruised
            - Sayan ... Sleep !!! yes

            About the "not cheap animal" - type "Axapta" or "Axapta programmer" on hh.ru - you will understand what I mean repeat
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              1. marshes
                marshes 27 January 2016 20: 00
                +1
                Quote: Sleeping Sayan
                Yes, yes, I was "hurt". I am in the taiga, literacy is not very much needed. I wonder where the "animal" should aim at you so that your "expensive" skin does not spoil.

                I have a friend, I was in the far north, told me that they wouldn’t spoil the skin of the kasolapovy, they shot in the ear, from the "PROTEIN", small-scale. When they raised them from the den. By the way, I saw a couple of rugs in his house.
              2. Cat man null
                Cat man null 27 January 2016 20: 03
                -1
                Quote: Sleeping Sayan
                I am in the taiga, literacy is not very much needed

                In the taiga - I don’t know, I wasn’t .. I was only in the tundra .. and on the site literacy has never hurt anyone.

                Quote: Sleeping Sayan
                I wonder where to aim at you

                You are .. be careful .. I somehow do not really like it when .. "aim" at me request

                Quote: Sleeping Sayan
                so as not to spoil your "expensive" skin

                There were a lot of people who wanted to spoil my skin in my memory .. So far no one has succeeded. Want to try - in PM, throw off the coordinates.

                Somehow yes
                1. marshes
                  marshes 27 January 2016 20: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  There were people who wanted to ruin my skin.

                  I saw crushed reed cats. On the highway.
                  Himself, past the shepherd dogs. Male cats, Siamese, Siberian and blue Russian. They arrange the rats for the genocide, I still have some kind of cattle, Rats have not seen.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 27 January 2016 18: 18
            0
            This means evaluating your salary to the maximum and rightly so - one must respect his work and get it from his superiors.
      2. atalef
        atalef 27 January 2016 12: 35
        +3
        Quote: kepmor
        Well, cat man, are you bored?! Based on your comments, my purely personal assumption is that you are probably sitting in some "state office

        Well, Rum, you haven’t turned up, but a budget rat.
        Quote: kepmor
        , with a good budget salary (while also stable) -

        To the point belay

        Quote: kepmor
        - ALL YOU ARE GOOD!

        Wag compared to you, well, just nobody
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  • Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 27 January 2016 06: 46
    +6
    "And not because of the flimsy preaching of communism, but because of the logical explanation for the permanent crises of capitalism."
    In general, he did not just explain there somehow.))) But he gave a scientific substantiation of these processes, he argued that capitalism has in its development regularities inherent in it. And then, according to the author, it turns out that Marx somehow explained something to someone else. He almost sucked it out of his finger)))) This is not true. Who does not believe at least the first page of "Capital" read it.))))
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 27 January 2016 09: 33
      +4
      Damn, I read this capital, to be honest, I mastered only the first first volume, then instead of economics, continuous politics went. Well, the question is why to pull Marx by the ears to the modern oil market? I understand that for someone Marx is a favorite author, but you have generally heard that since then mankind has begun to use machines everywhere, electricity machines, in a word, developed. And during this time, science has gone far ahead, including economics. Building current judgments on the "discoveries" of the bearded classic is like a modern chemist relying on the works of medieval alchemists.
      By the end of his life, the same Marx had to urgently modernize his basic law of value, which states that the price of a commodity is determined by the amount of labor expended on its production, and to introduce the concept of "natural rent" in order to explain logical inconsistencies. And then the natural rent was understood, first of all, the land rent, because at that time humanity practically did not exploit other natural resources.
      And yet, the author notes, economic cycles are inevitable, and not because greedy capitalists strive to flood the market with goods. It’s just that economics is a part of our life, and the only form of existence of life is movement in a spiral (sinusoid, circle, etc. cycle). There will be no life without movement. And the task of any sane state is not to exclude cycles, but to provide the necessary level of stability so that the amplitude of the cycle does not destroy the system.
  • ltc35
    ltc35 27 January 2016 06: 49
    +4
    And the ruble is getting cheaper, on the move, not because of oil ... Gasoline is only getting more expensive.
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 27 January 2016 07: 18
      +6
      The ruble, it is on its own. No one except the swindlers on the exchange has a decree.
      1. Boos
        Boos 27 January 2016 08: 02
        +8
        We have long been separated from the state ruble, like a church ... If you want to believe in the ruble, if you want to, do not believe it, the government doesn’t care ...
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 27 January 2016 09: 56
          +5
          We have long been separated from the state ruble, like a church ... If you want to believe in the ruble, if you want to, do not believe it, the government doesn’t care ..
          Well said, but it seems that the government is separate from the people.
          1. Boos
            Boos 27 January 2016 10: 04
            +3
            It just doesn't seem to you, like me.
    2. guzik007
      guzik007 27 January 2016 10: 51
      +1
      And the ruble is getting cheaper, on the move, not because of oil ..
      -------------------------------------------
      The ruble is tied to the price of oil. What does it mean? Starikov explained this very clearly. So we sell a certain amount of oil on the market for a certain amount of dollars. More price, more green, less, respectively less. Then the Central Bank, which is not our Central Bank at all, but an American branch, roughly speaking, divides its assets in rubles by the revenue in dollars and receives current ruble exchange rate. AND EVERYTHING! Even if we flood the whole world with wheat, high-tech products (in fantastic dreams), and so on, the ruble exchange rate will be determined only from the sale of oil for dollars.
      So we are paying for the betrayal of the red creature, slipping the idea with the Central Bank from its overseas owners to the ever-wacky freak to sign.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 January 2016 18: 28
        0
        The ruble is tied to us as follows - the price of oil - tax deductions - replenishment of the treasury, the weakening of the ruble, compensation for the reduction of tax revenues from the sale of all goods, not just oil, abroad.
    3. atalef
      atalef 27 January 2016 11: 37
      +7
      Quote: ltc35
      And the ruble is getting cheaper, on the move, not because of oil ... Gasoline is only getting more expensive.

      Apparently the ruble is tied to oil. and the dollar to gasoline
  • Skif83
    Skif83 27 January 2016 06: 54
    14
    “And now we, the executive and legislative bodies, are forced to jointly prepare various scenarios for adjusting the budget taking into account the further possible fall in oil prices”

    Except obscene language, nothing comes to mind with these words!
    And why ..., one wonders, did you usurp power then, if you do not understand the mechanisms of the economy? Why do we need fortune-telling on the "oil" thick with which the president, speakers, ministers flashed?
    Competent strategists should be at the head of the state, not participants in the battle of psychics, and, by the way, the latter will guess more often.
    When they start to interweave "political components", stock quotes, exchange rates, I want to howl from such hopelessness ...
    Politics is a concentrated expression of the economy, therefore, if our politicians "mess up" each time in politics, then, to put it mildly, they don’t snout in the economy either?
    For them, was political economy in institutions just a passing subject? Or did they, in their theoretical research, surpass the Jewish grandfather of Marx?
    If you are at the helm of the largest and richest country in the world, how can you build your strategy on a commodity economy? And not even because of instability in the commodity market, but rather because of the stagnation of the rest of the economy.
    Probably, to establish a growth strategy, it is necessary not based on the price of the dollar, artificially inflated paper printed by a private company (!!!), not based on their stock quotes, which are nothing more than a large speculative game, again tied to the notorious dollar.
    Probably, the country's development strategy should not be based on virtual things and concepts, but on the real economy, which is “goods-money-goods”, goods that can be touched, bit, broken or fixed, but real goods, and real money that have commodity and material content, and not reinforced only by green ones (probably from time to time laughing ) by the presidents.
    And, probably, you need to build your own economy, first of all relying on your productive forces, raw materials, thank God, enough ?! And for this you need only ... WORK!
    WORK, and not distribute oil and gas profits, as the current Twitter government.
    And then the question arises, is our “economic” elite incompetent or does it pursue the interests of our partner enemies?
    There is a third option, they are just temporary workers who take advantage of the moment filling their pockets with the very same free green presidents.
    And what is the main thing for a temporary worker? Leave the room! It seems they are serving it.
    Because they have villas in London, children at harvards, Tugriks in Switzerland ...
    Where is it about the people, when so many of their problems ...
    TIRED ALL OF THESE ULYUKAYEV, NAE ... NABIULINS and others like them! am
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 27 January 2016 06: 59
      +4
      TIRED ALL OF THESE ULYUKAYEVS, NAE ... NABIULINS and others like them! am


      The people are furious smile calmer ... gentlemen, comrades.


      WASHINGTON happily rubbing their hands waiting for a social explosion of the population ...
      do not immediately wave their pitchforks and shafts to their joy.
      1. kare
        kare 27 January 2016 07: 54
        +2
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        The same LEKHA RU Today, 06: 59 ↑ New

        TIRED ALL OF THESE ULYUKAYEVS, NAE ... NABIULINS and others like them! am


        The people in a rage smile calmer ... gentlemen, comrades.


        WASHINGTON happily rubbing their hands waiting for a social explosion of the population ...
        do not immediately wave their pitchforks and shafts to their joy.


        You just need to figure it out a bit, flies separately, cutlets separately

        OIL PRICES DESTROYED FOR RESCUE OF DOLLAR

        The main goal of the Fed is to save the world hegemony of the dollar and preserve in the minds of the world community, the last vestiges of faith in the power of the dollar and the painted US economy.

        The world is wondering who and why brought down oil prices. The world media offer two main versions explaining the fall in oil prices. Let's briefly outline each of them.

        - Version one: Oil prices dropped by the United States in order to punish the people of Russia. To punish for the fact that the people of Russia, in a democratic way, choose their national leader, without taking into account the interests of Washington.

        - The second version: Saudi Arabia arranged a price dumping for oil in order to bury the so-called shale revolution in the United States. Since oil and gas production by hydraulic fracturing has a higher cost price and at oil prices below 70 dollars per barrel, it becomes unprofitable. And for one revenge Russia for the support of Iran and Syria.

        Why do both of these versions have a right to exist?
        http://investcafe.ru/blogs/mbcy/posts/48512
        Do not be lazy, read the full version. Answers to all questions in detail, and intelligibly
        After reading, it will become clear that our ministers need to suck shit through a cloth, and they with a wooden spoon into space
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 27 January 2016 08: 32
          0
          There is also a "third version" about which they either do not know, or do not want to talk, namely: the United States decided to return to the "expensive" dollar, that is, the goal of the United States is to reduce the amount of the dollar supply by increasing the cost of the dollar itself, then there is thus they "suspend" the "machine". Not only oil is falling against the dollar, but also all other "resources".
        2. atalef
          atalef 27 January 2016 08: 32
          +7
          Quote: kare
          You just need to figure it out a bit, flies separately, cutlets separately

          OIL PRICES DESTROYED FOR RESCUE OF DOLLAR

          How and where is the connection?
          Quote: kare
          The Fed’s main goal is to save the world hegemony of the dollar and preserve in the consciousness of the world community, the last vestiges of faith in the power of the dollar and the painted US economy.

          The last vestiges of faith. Strongly said.
          If you did not believe. doesn't mean at all. that the whole world did not believe
          Quote: kare
          Version one: US oil prices dropped in order to punish the people of Russia. To punish for the fact that the people of Russia, in a democratic way, choose their national leader, without taking into account the interests of Washington

          So, the previous 6 years, they kept her at 100+. so that the people of Russia live better and choose Putin?
          Well then, say thanks to the Fed for 12 obese years laughing
          Quote: kare
          Second version: Saudi Arabia arranged a price dumping for oil in order to bury the so-called shale revolution in the United States.

          Is this already included in the version? 2-3 years ago, they proved in all the media in Russia. that shale oil is a bluff

          Quote: kare
          Since oil and gas production by fracking has a higher cost and at oil prices below $ 70 per barrel, it becomes unprofitable

          26 dollars per barrel.
          Stop believing in your own tales
          Quote: kare
          And for one revenge Russia for the support of Iran and Syria.

          Punishing yourself?
          Quote: kare
          Why do both of these versions have a right to exist?

          Because you like it so much.
          1. Al_oriso
            Al_oriso 27 January 2016 12: 36
            0
            With a decrease in oil prices, prices for other energy carriers — gas, coal, etc., decrease. As a result of this, the price of gold falls, since the process of obtaining it is quite energy intensive. Gold is getting cheaper, the dollar is growing. This supports a huge dollar mass. It is clear that this is temporary. The dollar will sooner or later overwhelm the global economy, and the amount of gold will remain at the same level. How can the United States return the gold reserve? Only start a war in those countries that have accumulated a lot of gold and supply them with weapons not for dollars but for gold. Cyclic process.
            1. atalef
              atalef 27 January 2016 12: 42
              +1
              Well, about sooner and later, this is Lenin
              Quote: Al_oriso
              Gold is getting cheaper, the dollar is growing. This supports a huge dollar mass.

              strange conclusion, especially considering that the dollar is not guaranteed by gold

              Quote: Al_oriso
              . The dollar will sooner or later overwhelm the global economy, and the amount of gold will remain at the same level

              Late or sooner - we already hear that for about 100 years. But with gold, what will you do?
              In dollars you can even heat the stove, but in gold? Although as oppression for sauerkraut - the same is nothing

              Quote: Al_oriso
              How can the United States return the gold reserve?

              Why the hell is he needed?
              Just like that, for reference, in Israel there is no gold and gold reserves in general. Zero, and nothing.
              And Israel is far from the only country where there is no gold in gold reserves
              Quote: Al_oriso
              Cyclic process.


              Cyclical delirium, sorry.
              1. Al_oriso
                Al_oriso 28 January 2016 06: 37
                0
                One who loves only to criticize never expresses his opinion.
                Demagogy is a tool for the helpless, sorry.
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      2. Boos
        Boos 27 January 2016 08: 06
        +6
        Anyone who is not happy with Putin's "economy" -agents of the State Department? I, the one whose Motherland is Russia, and have every right to express dissatisfaction with Putin's inaction!
    2. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 27 January 2016 07: 27
      +1
      Quote: Skif83
      And then the question arises, is our “economic” elite incompetent or does it pursue the interests of our partner enemies?
      There is a third option, they are just temporary workers who take advantage of the moment filling their pockets with the very same free green presidents.
      And what is the main thing for a temporary worker? Leave the room! It seems they are serving it.
      Because they have villas in London, children at harvards, Tugriks in Switzerland ...
      Where is it about the people, when so many of their problems ...

      It is precisely because the “economic elite” is incompetent that this elite is “serving its number”. It will not work to start working, since the elite have not learned this and are not adapted to an adequate perception of the changing reality. She is still waiting for the money to flow again and, as before, will be able to fill her pockets, throwing small handouts to the people.
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    4. Aleksander
      Aleksander 27 January 2016 07: 49
      +1
      Quote: Skif83
      And, probably, you need to build your own economy, first of all relying on your productive forces, raw materials, thank God, enough ?! And for this you just need to ... WORK! WORK, and not distribute oil and gas profits, as the current Twitter government.

      There is also the FOURTH explanation that ALL fits into: "Until the thunder breaks out, the man n crosses himself"-and it, in my opinion, the most true ....
    5. Captain45
      Captain45 27 January 2016 20: 23
      0
      Quote: Skif83
      Probably, the development strategy of the country should not be based on virtual things and concepts, but on the real economy, which is “goods-money-goods”, goods that can be touched, bit, broken or fixed, but real goods and real money that have commodity and material content, and not supported only by green (probably laughing from time to time) presidents.

      It seems to me that you, a colleague, taught political economy, just like I did under the Soviet regime and with a good teacher hi
  • Telemon
    Telemon 27 January 2016 06: 55
    -4
    Hello! Purely not economically tired of the "forecasts" from ... recourse both the Americans and the Russian would-be ministers who are ready only to cry and not decide. And do not hang "dogs" for Putin. HE IS A MAN and sees everything, work is going on (try to refute it !!) But the liberals are trying to do nasty things to the delight of those who are "out of a puddle".
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 27 January 2016 10: 03
      +1
      And Putin, do not hang "dogs" all. HE IS A MAN and sees everything, the work is in progress
      So Siluanov is a man, and Nabiullina, as he sees everything.
      And who are the liberals? when Putin is in violation of the constitution (ideology is forbidden in Russia), he says that Russia is doomed to liberalism.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 27 January 2016 06: 56
    13
    And Iran by the end of the year plans to double its oil production and is already giving the biggest discounts in the struggle for sales markets, frankly dumping. Maybe my words will seem harsh, especially considering that I do not live in Russia, but taking into account the macroeconomic stability of the Russian economy and low oil prices and sanctions against Western goods, so far only benefit your growth.
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 January 2016 07: 54
      +1
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      but given the macroeconomic stability of the Russian economy and low oil prices and sanctions against Western goods, so far only benefit your growth

      Hey . Aron.
      ??
    2. Wheel
      Wheel 27 January 2016 08: 18
      +3
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      but given the macroeconomic stability of the Russian economy and low oil prices and sanctions against Western goods, so far only benefit your growth.

      In theory...
      In practice, that on the forehead, that on the forehead.
    3. Boos
      Boos 27 January 2016 10: 00
      +2
      I would agree with you if the fuel prices in Russia were adequate, and the current ones are killing the economy and the welfare of the people. Snow-capped cars are increasing, people are saving on gasoline.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 January 2016 18: 32
        +1
        And how can the cost of gasoline and diesel fuel be adequate if more than half the cost of one liter of fuel is 36 rubles - 21 rubles is a tax to the treasury.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 January 2016 07: 08
    +2
    the market is quite capable of regulating itself, and they hope that the decline will be replaced by a rise

    We have already seen how he regulates this market himself by the example of Russia both in the 90s and in 2008, and we see it now. It is not the market that regulates itself, but corporations and speculators, and of course, politicians decide what and how much it will cost today. And the price of oil, frankly, really sickened. Already the grandmothers on the benches are wondering what is the price per barrel today? It was necessary to hammer the people in such a way that their well-being depends solely on the price of oil.
  • Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 27 January 2016 07: 14
    0
    At current prices, companies, analysts say, do not make money on oil. But they continue to work, hoping for a change in the situation. What will happen next? Either companies run out of money for operating expenses, or they lose hope.

    Most likely, this is the most real development of events. Therefore, it will take at least six months (possibly more) for the price of oil to go up again. And this time can be fatal for many. And this is exactly the time when it is necessary to abandon the dollar.
  • sery volk
    sery volk 27 January 2016 07: 25
    +1
    and along the road the dead with braids stand, and oil at $ 90 per barrel, and silence
  • asiat_61
    asiat_61 27 January 2016 07: 25
    +1
    Interestingly, Comrade Stalin, how did you live without a course of oil in a war-ravaged country? Sin has become so tongued up and still has not been kicked out. Privatizers have stepped up to sell off the last, which brings at least some income.
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 January 2016 07: 59
      +8
      Quote: asiat_61
      interesting, comrade Stalin, how did you live without a course of oil in a war-ravaged country?

      So he lived without an iPhone. and without internet.
      And what about Stalin?
      Quote: asiat_61
      . Privatizers stepped up to sell off the last, which brings at least some kind of income. President, is it time to use power

      Well, yes, but Putin about the upcoming privatization of neither Gazprom. Rosneft does not know.
      to him means his closest friends (and they did the nearest shopping mall worked with him back in the 90s in St. Petersburg) Sechin, Medvedev and Miller will not say anything.
      I can imagine this picture. asks Putin like this (in a year) - how are we doing in Rosneft? Comrade Sechin - and he makes such naive round eyes and answers
      - And we, well, sold it a year ago. crying repeat
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 January 2016 18: 34
      -1
      Stalin lived in a planned economy, and we now have a market economy.
  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 January 2016 07: 30
    +2
    Long live oil for 25 scammers for at least the next three years !!! maybe then the government will remember the economy ???
  • Senior manager
    Senior manager 27 January 2016 07: 41
    +1
    Today's oil prices are games of politicians and speculators, reminds a film about a citrus crop in which the juice market may collapse from a single word, and here. hydrocarbon consumption has not fallen so catastrophically as the price of oil, that is, the oil market is poorly self-regulating, and more dependent on messages, and messages are often stuffing, profitable for one or other groups of speculators or political groups on Walstreet. Fussing it all, not the economy.
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 January 2016 08: 06
      +4
      Quote: St. Propulsion
      Today's oil prices are the games of politicians and speculators

      Well yes . and when she was 2 years ago at 120 - it was an honest fair price

      Quote: St. Propulsion
      recalls a film about a citrus crop in which the juice market may collapse from a single word

      And what was wrong in that movie?
      Quote: St. Propulsion
      . hydrocarbon consumption has not fallen as catastrophically as oil prices

      Firstly . back up your words with numbers
      Secondly, consumption has fallen, and production at the maximum of all time
      Well, in 3, the dependence of oil prices on overproduction is not direct for that. to drop it 2 times. no need to produce 2 times more
      Quote: St. Propulsion
      and the messages are often throws, profitable or one or other groups of speculators or political groups on Walstreet

      Again, back to my question.
      When the oil price was 120 bucks (at a production price of 5-10 bucks per barrel) - it was not speculation and divorce of the whole world as suckers.
      And when it fell to a reasonable price (which, by the way, guarantees the same small profit), which no one can even dream of in industry (200-300%). so is it speculation? And then what happened before? Superspecification?
  • Alex_T
    Alex_T 27 January 2016 07: 47
    +4
    People! Explain to me, not an economist, a teapot, why countries consumers do not buy oil for future use, if it is so cheap? What prevents to sell the same US debt securities (Treasury) and buy cheap oil for years to come? Lack of storage? Oil will rise in price in the long run anyway (since it’s not a renewable resource, but the cost of production will still go up).
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 January 2016 08: 10
      +3
      Quote: Alex_T
      People! Explain to me not an economist, a teapot, why countries consumers do not buy oil for future use

      Buy and China and the States
      Quote: Alex_T
      What prevents to sell the same US debt securities (Treasuries) and buy cheap oil for years to come?

      There is no connection between the T-bills of the USA and oil, but the oil must be stored somewhere. at least, and this is also worth the money.
      Quote: Alex_T
      Oil will rise in price in the long run anyway (since it’s not a renewable resource, but the cost of production will still go up).

      Not a fact, by the way, many agree that oil is a renewable resource. And indeed, judging by the development of technology. from oil (except chemistry) - apparently they will gradually refuse and this direction is developing both in the USA and Europe, and in the same China, which announced a program to reduce its dependence on hydrocarbons by 2 times over (in my opinion) 15 years.
      1. Alex_T
        Alex_T 27 January 2016 08: 35
        +3
        If oil was a renewable resource, then it would not have been necessary to develop hard-to-recover fields (shale, arctic, ...), to develop technologies to increase the productivity of wells. The production of old deposits is falling and this is an objective fact, and the hypothesis of self-healing is still only a hypothesis.
        1. Aklyakhin
          Aklyakhin 27 January 2016 13: 49
          +2
          Oil is a self-healing resource. Otherwise, who uploaded it into the bowels? It is necessary to wait only 30-40 million years.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 27 January 2016 18: 40
            0
            No one has canceled the hydrocarbon cycle in nature, and all the oil that has been developed today will return to its previous state in just 60 years - our scientists of the Russian Academy of Sciences have proved.
        2. marshes
          marshes 27 January 2016 15: 11
          0
          Quote: Alex_T
          Alex_T

          Countryman, it is not known what will happen if Kashagan works, that is, problems, jambs during the construction, plus transportation problems. Maybe, Kashagan, prices will fall again.
  • rustemkm
    rustemkm 27 January 2016 07: 57
    0
    This and the goat understand that oil prices are politicized, or rather, already politicized!
    Liberal economists cannot be trusted! How many wars have been, are being waged and will be waged for control of this resource.
    The Arabs have said so many times that they will not reduce oil production even to their own detriment, so they have received overproduction, an oversupply of the supply with a decrease in the economy.
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 January 2016 08: 33
      +4
      Quote: rustemkm
      The Arabs have said so many times that they will not reduce oil production even to their own detriment, so they have received overproduction, an oversupply of the supply with a decrease in the economy.

      and Russia, with a production level of 7, doesn’t want to reduce it? Maybe prices will rise. No? Here they are - no.
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  • Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 27 January 2016 08: 04
    +1
    All forecasts in the economy are fortune-telling. Among traders there is a joke about economic predictors. They first make a prediction and then, if their forecast has come true exactly the opposite, they explain why this happened and not otherwise.)
  • Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 27 January 2016 08: 08
    +2
    Quote: Nagaibak
    "And not because of the flimsy preaching of communism, but because of the logical explanation for the permanent crises of capitalism."
    In general, he did not just explain there somehow.))) But he gave a scientific substantiation of these processes, he argued that capitalism has in its development regularities inherent in it. And then, according to the author, it turns out that Marx somehow explained something to someone else. He almost sucked it out of his finger)))) This is not true. Who does not believe at least the first page of "Capital" read it.))))

    We were once overfed with Marxism-Leninism. And now, the farther, the more convinced that Marx was right about capitalism.
  • Yurmix
    Yurmix 27 January 2016 08: 33
    -1
    In the XNUMXst century, Marx became again popular, and not only in Russia,

    Well, of course very popular, he called the hares pigs. There was a planned system in the USSR and not according to Marx, and everything was as it should be. I would like to note about the economy, in my opinion, the Swiss system could well be quite good in Russia, the main production as well as all large enterprises are under the tutelage of the state, and everything else is business. This is when the first congress of "people's" deputies was shouted from the rostrum, there will be private competition, that is, it is not cheaper, and therefore you give privatization, and it went as you know. One example, now the question of a monopoly on alcohol is ripe, what to do? all alcohol factories must be bought back from private traders, and as you know, the private trader will sell it at the wrong prices, privatized for a penny. The capital system in Russia cannot work in view of the boundless greed of the oligarchs and the control of the present by the top. Who's upstairs? The same Gref and his Timurov team of the 90s are still at the helm of the economy, and it is with them that the recovery of the ruble must be started.
  • afrikanez
    afrikanez 27 January 2016 08: 42
    0
    Well, if a barrel costs $ 90, then the government will again relax to the fullest. It's like giving a drink!
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander 27 January 2016 08: 46
    +2
    “China is our partner, ally, we have very good relations with them, with the Chinese

    Shaw, again on the same rake ?! Russia has NO allies except two, when will it be assimilated forever?
  • Wolka
    Wolka 27 January 2016 08: 46
    0
    Yankees unleashed around the world in military conflicts constantly require money and resources, including oil products, the existing accumulated reserves ready for consumption are already approaching depletion, because there will definitely be a demand for oil, the question is how quickly this will happen ...
  • lablizn
    lablizn 27 January 2016 08: 50
    +1
    It should be borne in mind that oil is traded in "futures", in other words, supply contracts, and not in real barrels here and now.
    Therefore, prices are formed on the basis of various forecasts: what is the likelihood of production growth, what is the need for energy supply in the winter period, what are the reserves in oil storage facilities, etc., etc.
    That is, in fact, based on the assumptions of various rating and analytical companies, and if you exaggerate a little, then it’s rumored.
    For example, price reductions occur after US announcements about the increase in stocks in their stores. And who can verify and confirm this?
    The latest collapse was triggered by the lifting of the ban on oil trade by Iran (lifting of sanctions). So, has Iran already entered the oil market?
    And where is the pipe, where are the terminals?
    In this way, pricing can be manipulated broadly.
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 January 2016 09: 04
      +2
      Quote: lablizn
      It should be borne in mind that oil is traded in "futures", in other words, supply contracts, and not in real barrels here and now.
      Therefore, prices are formed on the basis of various forecasts: what is the likelihood of production growth, what is the need for energy supply in the winter period, what are the reserves in oil storage facilities, etc., etc.
      That is, in fact, based on the assumptions of various rating and analytical companies, and if you exaggerate a little, then it’s rumored.
      For example, price reductions occur after US announcements about the increase in stocks in their stores. And who can verify and confirm this?
      The latest collapse was triggered by the lifting of the ban on oil trade by Iran (lifting of sanctions). So, has Iran already entered the oil market?
      And where is the pipe, where are the terminals?
      In this way, pricing can be manipulated broadly.

      It trades in futures both here and now and contracts for years.
  • Million
    Million 27 January 2016 08: 57
    +4
    Things are bad in that state. Where old and young knows world currency exchange rates and the cost of a barrel of oil, where the first news is news from currency exchanges and quotes ....
  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 27 January 2016 09: 22
    -1
    Quote: atalef
    Putin about coming no privatization of Gazprom. Rosneft does not know

    This talk has been going on for two years now, if sclerosis doesn’t change me .. no one in their right mind has a chicken that carries .. Faberge, practically laughing - will not cut.

    Alexander, welcome hi

    PS: Don't cling to "sane" only. There really is someone, but there are definitely no feeble-minded people request
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 January 2016 11: 35
      0
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      This chatter has been going on for two years now, if sclerosis doesn’t change me .. no one in their right mind carries a chicken ... Faberge, practically - will not cut

      Hi Roman!
      Firstly . it’s not so profitable, and secondly it will.
      maybe we need money now. otherwise you can stay with some one
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 27 January 2016 09: 48
    +1
    Very strange; overproduction is 10 percent of the demand, and the price drops 3 times.

    Apparently, all that is beyond a real fall is economic games (futures) for which you need to wrest your hands (for speculators; sellers of air) or political games (which the United States and other crowds of liberals like to play).
  • lablizn
    lablizn 27 January 2016 09: 59
    0
    Here is another comment about the oil market:

    26th of January 2016
    And again, a word to my beloved Texas oilman Jeffrey Brown. In a recent e-mail, he noted that, in fact, today's oil surplus is not quite what it seems. Yes, there is indeed a glut in the oil markets. But what part of it is oil itself, and which part is the so-called gas condensate? And why is this problem important for understanding the true state of affairs in the field of world oil supplies?
    ... Part of the answer is that since mid-2015, US oil production has been falling. However, the fact that in its reports UEI calls oil what is actually a mixture of oil and condensate plays a significant role. Given that American hard-to-recover oil fields supply huge volumes of gas condensate using the hydraulic fracturing or fracking methods, the United States does not actually produce oil in quantities that you would think of when looking at the UEI figures. Thus, according to Brown, America is flooded with condensate, and therefore, imports should almost entirely consist of oil itself.
    It remains a mystery how much of the oil produced in America and in the world is actually condensate. In most cases, the available data is simply not enough to highlight its volume.
    .
    According to Brown, from 2005 until today, trillions of dollars have been spent only on maintaining oil production at the same level. Now, when oil companies cut their exploration budgets at low oil prices, and for existing wells around the world, annual production decreases are estimated to be between 4,5 and 6,7 percent, the recovery in oil demand can very quickly and push prices up significantly.
    True, such prospects are overshadowed by ideas about the growth of oil production, which may turn out to be a mistake that arose as a result of large condensate deception.

    Natalia Golovakha, MixedNews
  • Billikid
    Billikid 27 January 2016 10: 04
    +1
    Well, I don’t understand anything in the economy, but the question is why in 2003 oil cost $ 32, and gasoline averaged 8-9 rubles, and now $ 30 and gasoline 32-34 rubles? Explain !!!!
    1. Million
      Million 27 January 2016 11: 09
      +1
      when they buy less gas, then maybe the price of it will drop
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 January 2016 18: 42
        0
        No, they just want to transfer us all to cars with an Euro 7 engine and a flow rate of 4 - 5 liters per hundred.
    2. Rumata
      Rumata 27 January 2016 11: 39
      +3
      The ruble in 2003 is not equal to the ruble now, it was 2 times more expensive, for this reason, for clarity, economists say that when compared with 2003, a barrel of oil costs no more than 14-15 rubles. By the way, the purchasing power of the ruble has fallen 2003 times since 5.
      Z.Y
      While Zhukovsky is right in everything
      1. atalef
        atalef 27 January 2016 11: 48
        +5
        Quote: Rumata
        While Zhukovsky is right in everything

        Yes, a wonderful interview, in my year or a little less than a year ago. The host then fell into a stupor, and Zhukovsky was right.
        Then (a year ago, I posted the same thing) - grabbed the minuses. mom do not cry.
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 27 January 2016 11: 53
          +4
          Only half a year passed (27.07.15/XNUMX/XNUMX), and at the price per barrel he guessed exactly.
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  • Slippery
    Slippery 27 January 2016 11: 20
    -1
    Quote: Billikid
    Well, I don’t understand anything in the economy, but the question is why in 2003 oil cost $ 32, and gasoline averaged 8-9 rubles, and now $ 30 and gasoline 32-34 rubles? Explain !!!!

    Well, why do you measure oil with bucks and barrels and gas with liters and rubles? convert everything to liters and rubles or liters and bucks. Do not forget that gasoline is not a raw material, it is a product, which means it has its own added value (salaries, direct and indirect taxes, storage, loan servicing, electric energy, etc. etc.). You are not surprised that metals, rubber, plastic have fallen in price and there is no car. I agree that the comparison is not entirely correct, but still.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 27 January 2016 11: 21
    0
    In order for the ruble to be full-weighted, it is necessary to sell oil, gas and so on for rubles. fossils.
    The ruble was tied to the cost of oil at the request of our western partners. As soon as Russia began to act independently, the oil price immediately collapsed.
    When Russia was obedient, the price reached $ 130 per barrel.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 27 January 2016 11: 58
      +2
      Quote: Pvi1206
      In order for the ruble to be full-weighted, it is necessary to sell oil, gas and so on for rubles. fossils.

      In order to sell for rubles, you need at least 50% of the market to be in rubles. If Russia accounts for 10%, for example, and sales for rubles begin, Gazprom will go bankrupt in a week. If a large part of the market is not ruble everything will collapse since buying and selling the ruble itself, and not oil and gas, will still be for dollars, not for barrels of oil. That is, oil will still be sold for dollars through rubles. The course fell - goodbye Gazprom

      Only if OPEC or for example Central Asia and China agree to make settlements in rubles, it will work, but why do they need it? A gesture of goodwill because of which they can lose billions of income?
    2. IMHO
      IMHO 27 January 2016 13: 33
      -2
      You are just God. One sentence, or maybe save all of Russia. You need to go to the government, instead of stupid liberals.
      1. sleeping sayan
        sleeping sayan 27 January 2016 13: 44
        0
        Joke unsuccessfully. Such, since the time of the Khazar Khaganate, dream about it.
  • Rumata
    Rumata 27 January 2016 11: 27
    0
    Rapid pique
    http://coub.com/view/ac6c9
  • runway
    runway 27 January 2016 12: 08
    +2
    It is surprising that some of the participants in the discussion of this article dream that our current leaders, with low oil prices, "will start thinking about domestic economic policy."
    Our current handlers have already thought about it and advised us to tighten our belts, shut our mouths and not swing (in the sense, do not count on a quick solution to problems). True, at the same time, they do not forget to say that they have "everything under control" .... But how else, after all, during the crisis, the profits of THEIR corporations WILL GROW. So there is no need to hope that prices will begin to decline, our current drivers will no longer build palaces for themselves, buy yachts - deny themselves the essentials .... They are quite satisfied with the current state of affairs. Under the guise of a crisis, it is easier to steal. You can introduce new taxes, remove social benefits, and raise prices even more. L-I-p-o-t-ah ...
    And to reassure the people, you can call (the people who are not yet in prison) to fight corruption. And you can listen to the opinion of the opposition, again to the one that is not yet in prison.
    And you can also call the country's economic regulator the Ministry of ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT - it’s also funny and uplifting ....
  • sdv68
    sdv68 27 January 2016 12: 36
    +1
    Coming soon: 90 dollars per barrel
    Yes, at least 150.

    IMHO, anyway, the ruble will never return to the time of three years ago. The CBRF simply will not allow such a strengthening of the national currency. As at one time he did not allow the strengthening of more than 27 per dollar (if I am not mistaken in 2008), and then (less than a year ago) 50 per dollar.

    IMHO, in the best case (with an increase in oil prices), you can expect somewhere around 60 rubles for one Baku. But not cheaper.
  • su navy
    su navy 27 January 2016 13: 09
    +1
    Indeed, the lies of the top manager of the Russian Federation are already sick of it. World financial crisis 2008 for some reason, they associated it with the mortgage lending crisis in the United States, although the staff themselves were surprised at such an explanation. Something the media do not say that there is such an "omega" in Western Europe as in Russia. The Central Bank is a branch of the US Federal Reserve System, the participants in the Gaidar Forum are non-staff employees of the State Department, but well paid.
  • Velizariy
    Velizariy 27 January 2016 13: 11
    -2
    Quote: Aleksander
    “China is our partner, ally, we have very good relations with them, with the Chinese

    Shaw, again on the same rake ?! Russia has NO allies except two, when will it be assimilated forever?

    Why only two ??? And the videoconferencing? What about the Strategic Missile Forces?
  • Cobra77
    Cobra77 27 January 2016 14: 32
    0
    Well, that's the whole plan for the economy in the Russian Federation. smile Bounces back to $ 90. You don't have to do anything. What is import substitution? What are you speaking about? In the meantime, "we could hold out for the day, but stand for the night." Well, we will privatize something else for cheap, well, we will wind up taxes and levies. And then you look and we will live to see expensive oil. Probably .... well, as in the Republic of Ingushetia at one time, the Minister of Finance Vyshnegradsky at the end of the 19th century said about grain: "we will not finish it, but we will take it out" ....
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 27 January 2016 15: 02
      0
      In fact, the USA and the SA collapsed oil in order to punish Russia for its independent policy, the rearmament of the army program, and for our country supporting the Donbass and accepting Crimea as part of our country in order to protect its population from the war and killings that Washington’s proteges wanted to arrange there Aviva and other enemies of our country.
      By the way, our local Israeli Jews are now very much worried about Russia about the "fallen" oil prices and about the predatory policy of our leadership, somehow forgetting about what is happening with their oil products. In many ways, this is understandable - they work off the shekels paid to them for libel and creating tension in Russia, because our country has begun to strengthen, and oh, how they don’t want it, they need us to remain weak and destitute, and even better to bring different Gusinski Abramovich Gaidars to power from the new and Nemtsovs to plunder our country.
      Experts explain the high cost of gasoline in Israel in the collapse of oil prices
      Despite the fact that oil on world markets has fallen in price over the past month by 23%, gas prices in Israel from February 2,7 (according to the forecast) will drop by only 5,62% to 1 shekels per liter (the rate for today is 3.98 dollar = XNUMX shekels)
      Currently, direct and indirect taxes on gasoline account for 67%. That is, 3 shekels in the cost of each liter of gasoline goes to the state in the form of an excise tax. In addition, VAT and delivery margins are charged.
      Even if oil begins to be sold free of charge, the Israelis will pay about 4 shekels per liter for gas.
      http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/busines1/2016/01/18/eksperti-obyasnili-dorogoviznu-
      benzina-v-izraile-pri-krushenii-cen-na-neft /
      1. atalef
        atalef 27 January 2016 15: 12
        0
        Quote: quilted jacket
        In fact, the US and the CA have collapsed oil to punish Russia for its independent policy, the rearmament program of the army


        And before that they raised it to give Russia the opportunity to start it
        laughing
        Quote: quilted jacket
        By the way, our local Israeli Jews are now very worried about Russia about the "dropped" oil prices and about the predatory policy of our leadership, somehow forgetting about what is happening with their oil products


        Why, every day I remember, more precisely every 4-5 days, when I pay, I pay less and less
        Quote: quilted jacket
        it’s even better to bring different Gusinsky Abramovich Gaydarov and Nemtsov to power for the plunder of our country

        It is strange to drag into the power the corpses of Nemtsov and Berezovsky, probably to replace Rotenberg laughing
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Despite the fact that oil on world markets has fallen in price over the past month by 23%, gas prices in Israel from February 2,7 (according to the forecast) will drop by only 5,62% to 1 shekels per liter (the rate for today is 3.98 dollar = XNUMX shekels)

        Indeed, it was
        almost 8.5 shekels.
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Currently, direct and indirect taxes on gasoline account for 67%. That is, 3 shekels in the cost of each liter of gasoline goes to the state in the form of an excise tax. In addition, VAT and a delivery margin are levied. Even if oil starts to be sold free, the Israelis will pay about 4 shekels per liter for gas

        Well ? And who said that our taxes are small? True, the minimum salary is 1300 bucks.
        Each time I lock myself up, I pay taxes to the state, at least 50 bucks, and so 4-5 times a month.
        As I understand . much more than the salary of many Russians.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 27 January 2016 15: 44
          -3
          Quote: atalef
          And before that they raised it to give Russia the opportunity to start it

          And high oil prices were beneficial for both the USA and CA as a producer, then the desire of these countries to "strangle" our country came into force.
          Quote: atalef
          Why, every day I remember, more precisely every 4-5 days, when I pay, I pay less and less

          That "paid" trolls were raised their salaries at the beginning of the new financial year in Israel? lol
          Quote: atalef
          It is strange to drag into the power the corpses of Nemtsov and Berezovsky, probably to replace Rotenberg

          Well, a Jew to a Jew - they are not all "traitors" and "thieves" smile
          Quote: atalef
          Indeed, it was
          almost 8.5 shekels.

          Well, now you’re buying oil from terrorists in Syria and Iraq through Turkey for 10 dollars each and that's cheaper.
          Quote: atalef
          And who said that our taxes are small? True, the minimum salary is 1300 bucks.
          Each time I lock myself up, I pay taxes to the state, at least 50 bucks, and so 4-5 times a month.
          As I understand . much more than the salary of many Russians.

          So your prices are much higher.
          Yes, and everything is not so good with you as others like you want to present and taking advantage of the fact that the majority of users on the site do not read your press openly "lying".


          Every fifth Israeli family lives below the poverty line
          Last year, 18,8% of Israeli families lived below the poverty line, which is 0,2% more than the previous year. These are 444.900 families consisting of 1,7 million people, 776.500 of which are children.
          In addition, the poverty level has increased significantly among elderly families from 1% to 23%, that is, almost every fourth elderly family lives below the poverty line.
          http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/busines1/2015/12/09/kazhdaya-pyataya-izrailskaya-se

          mya-zhivet-za-chertoy-bednosti /
          More poor Israelis than Bituach Leumi reports

          For example, the Latet organization, which helps the poorest strata of society, believes that in fact 2,6 million people live below the poverty line in the country, which is 900 thousand more than the National Insurance Institute (Bituach Leumi) estimates.
          http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/busines1/2015/12/12/chislo-bednih-izrailtyan-bolshe

          --chem-soobshaet-bituah-leumi /
          1. marshes
            marshes 27 January 2016 16: 00
            0
            Quote: quilted jacket
            That "paid" trolls were raised their salaries at the beginning of the new financial year in Israel?

            Unlikely laughing it's probably from the heart laughing , maybe they have, like ours. Grandmas are allocated not earlier than March, then they are "dropped" on the deposit, 3-6 months, the interest on the "pocket" is clear, the "movement" is not earlier than August. laughing Faced with this, the school year at the bow-desks are needed, the heating season, in two shifts, people "tear" the back point, so that the boilers would be installed until October 15, our region.
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  • andrew42
    andrew42 27 January 2016 14: 39
    +1
    The pace of falling oil prices, namely TEMPAS! “They are the main and indisputable evidence that a 70% reduction in the global average price is not a market, but an organized campaign.” And, of course, that only and exclusively futures can be an instrument of this action, since there is no need for currency in your pocket or for goods in storage. No slowdown in the Chinese economy, no prospective Iranian exit, no shale expectations / counter-expectations - all this together can give even half such a price collapse in such a short period of time. My personal opinion, there are 3 macro-reasons for the fall in oil prices, and all with different specific gravities: 1) some predicted excess oil - a specific gravity of 10%; 2) an attempt by various players (primarily CA) to redistribute shares in the global oil market, and the attempt is not too successful - the proportion is 20%; 3) the main reason is the global game of lowering the price of oil, and, as indicated above, other resources, and even gold in the end (at least to prevent the price of gold from rising in US dollars per ounce), and ... the redistribution of real assets as a maximum task, that is, Classic liquidocratic expropriation, scaled up in the Great Depression. Hedgehog is clear that this is possible only through DOLLAR. The weight of this reason is 70%.
    1. atalef
      atalef 27 January 2016 15: 02
      0
      Quote: andrew42
      The pace of falling oil prices, namely TEMPAS! - They are the main and indisputable evidence that a 70% reduction in the average world price is not a market but an organized action

      Why? Present a simple scenario that you see annually. The price of potatoes in April and August.
      Demand is almost the same, but the offer is different - the price behaves accordingly and falls significantly
      Quote: andrew42
      And, of course, that only and exclusively futures can be an instrument of this action, since there is no need for currency in your pocket or for goods in storage

      Not true. You have no idea what futures are.
      I will explain on the fingers. Rosneft needs money today. and she will get oil only in a month. Of course, there can be no talk of any sale at today's prices, since there is virtually no oil, so Rosneft is going to auction. with delivery in a month. Traders offer prices depending on the direction of the market. As a result, oil (not existing for today. But only sold in a month)
      ROSNEFT GOT MONEY.
      I have in my hands a Yu contract that will be implemented only in a month, and with this contract I can do whatever I want. I can pledge, sell, give as a gift.
      But all the same, in a month this contract will be implemented. Oil will be delivered, money has already been paid. All --- this is futures.

      Quote: andrew42
      . No slowdown in the Chinese economy, no prospective Iranian exit, no shale expectations / counter-expectations - all this together can give even half such a price collapse in such a short period of time

      ???????
      Quote: andrew42
      some predicted excess oil - specific gravity 10%;

      Lies and the example of futures contracts, I have already explained this.
      Remaining postaki -
      it
      1 Spot - oil now. for money - same now
      2. Deliveries under multi-year contracts, the same as deliveries and money physically exist
      Quote: andrew42
      an attempt by various players (primarily CA) to redistribute shares in the world oil market, and the attempt is not too successful - specific weight 20%

      those. to take all the oil extracted by SA and start redistributing? - nonsense
      Quote: andrew42
      the main reason is the global game to lower the price of oil, and, as indicated above, other resources, and even gold in the end (at least to prevent the price of gold from rising in US dollars per ounce), and

      How can I lower the price if the goods are not enough?
      Quote: andrew42
      Hedgehog is clear that this is possible only through DOLLAR. The weight of this reason is 70%.

      I’m probably not a hedgehog, so it’s not clear, you can explain it to my fingers, like me. preferably with comprehensible examples, and even better with numbers.
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 27 January 2016 19: 05
        0
        "that is, to take all the oil produced by the CA and start redistributing? - stupidity"
        Here is a typical example that "stupidity" is written before the criticized thesis is read. For those who do not read, I will explain: squeezing out some of the players from the oil market, and occupying (in the future) niches and segments that belonged to them. Is this clear? The question is who will be able to increase production faster when the "war" ends. The rest of the explanations are such that it is not clear what exactly you "explained". I already know what futures are. "How can you lower the price if the product is in short supply?" -which of the goods are you missing? We are talking about overproduction and oversupply, but you do not understand what. Perhaps they just didn't bother with the quality of the explanation. But so far, all the criticism looks like "not in 3,14 nor in the red army."
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    3. Rumata
      Rumata 27 January 2016 15: 46
      +1
      Quote: andrew42
      some predicted excess oil - specific gravity 10%;

      lolshto? Projected surplus? This surplus was about 2 million barrels a day, for two and a half years and now there are more than a billion barrels of "excess" oil on the market. Despite this, now there is still a surplus in production of 1 million barrels per day, and Iran has not yet developed itself. Even the fact that China, the United States and Europe are strenuously replenishing reserves with cheap oil does not change anything. The rest of the points are shiz, just look at what percentage of transactions are in futures and turn on the brain, probably these are the economists who sit in the Central Bank.

      What a habit of throwing their shoals on all sorts of secret conspiracies of the State Department and the machinations of the nouveau riche. The government of the Russian Federation went around with the price of oil, they could control it, but I want money, and OPEC took Russia and threw it. Then the Central Bank got into trouble, which dropped the ruble too strongly and abruptly, although they could gradually lower it without any problems. I generally am silent about the discount rate.
      Z.Y
      Oh yes, loans at 15% during the "import substitution" is ingenious.
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 27 January 2016 15: 32
    0
    Oil will rise in price when China fills all its storage facilities and the last canister with it ...
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 27 January 2016 16: 02
      +2
      How so? That is, there will be a lot of oil, there will be fewer buyers and consequently ... will the price go up?
      Plant the whole country with potatoes, then give each inhabitant a ton of potatoes and then, monitor its price in the market. By your logic, it will go up =)
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 27 January 2016 18: 56
      -1
      Oil will rise in price when China fills all its storage facilities and the last canister
      and meanwhile, there are more and more electric vehicles, solar panels and so on ...
      1. marshes
        marshes 27 January 2016 19: 17
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        and meanwhile, there are more and more electric vehicles, solar panels and so on ...

        It’s not profitable for car manufacturers, it’s ridiculous, but the oil companies manage the blocks of shares.
  • Cobra77
    Cobra77 27 January 2016 15: 45
    0
    Quote: piston
    It is surprising that some of the participants in the discussion of this article dream that our current leaders, with low oil prices, "will start thinking about domestic economic policy."


    You are not right. The tightening of the belts leads to discontent of the population, especially not long-term intervals. Especially against the backdrop of Rubles and yachts of 100 meters. The protest potential is growing. The chair begins to stagger. And if on Bolotnaya there were clowns and infantile children, then with a strong impoverishment, there will already be stronger and more radical comrades. And how it ends at the top is well known and remembered. And either you start doing something for the country, or you become the next generation of emigrants in Paris. So I personally for the cheapening of oil and for sanctions. Being determines consciousness ...
  • Evgeny Khokhlov
    Evgeny Khokhlov 27 January 2016 17: 56
    +1
    Soon, soon, wait, here we’ll live in five ten years !!! Again empty hopes ....
    1. marshes
      marshes 27 January 2016 18: 08
      0
      Quote: Evgeny Khokhlov
      Soon, soon, wait, here we’ll live in five ten years !!! Again empty hopes ..

      We must live now! I have long understood this. smile If there is an opportunity, "indulge in caviar" why miss it. You will not save up and for what, it is better money if a young person invests in education. Learn languages. There if you are "quick" and there will be good luck.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 January 2016 18: 49
      0
      Those who will wait for "handouts" from the state will never live well.
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 27 January 2016 18: 14
    0
    Quote: Sashka
    Here you can think about who and why dropped the ruble ...

    In January 2004, oil cost $ 31 per barrel, while the Central Bank exchange rate was 29 rubles per dollar. In January 2016 - 30 +/- per barrel, the Central Bank rate - 82. Naebulina works! Here is a real "backbreaking work" worthy of the Order "For Servants to the Fatherland."
  • Viktortopwar
    Viktortopwar 27 January 2016 18: 21
    0
    Correctly someone wrote - "it is necessary to abolish the ministries of finance, economic development, agriculture, industry and unite in the MINISTRY OF FORECASTS.
  • hartlend
    hartlend 27 January 2016 18: 34
    +1
    Recently, Comrade Chuvakin gets in. All processes are managed, if you do not manage, then someone else is in charge. Crises, respectively, are also man-made. First, the population is allowed to grow a little wool, then a crisis comes, the chosen ones cut the wool. Stalin built a different economy, based on different principles of management, and for this he was poisoned. Nobody actually knows how much living oil is on the market. There are lies, big lies and statistics. People hawala the information they give, it still won't be able to check. They said that the overproduction of oil, which means it is, drove prices down. Putin is certainly "in the subject", but his status does not allow him to say so. He speaks about it with other lips. I think Marx was wrong and disagree with the author of the article.
  • red_october
    red_october 27 January 2016 22: 46
    0
    Well, if 90 per barrel. Only a fool will refuse such a profit.
    But if we learn to live with 16, no one is afraid of us: neither Obama, nor the crisis, nor Western fantasies about how Russian is bad thanks to (!) Their sanctions.
    Yeah. And give Crimea with the Kuril Islands. With a ribbon. Shchaz.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 28 January 2016 00: 10
    0
    "... they now have problems, their growth rates are seriously suffering" ... we would have their problems! wink

    Matvienko is an unpleasant person ... but closer to the truth ... One "woof!" from Washington to the Saudi princes and they will draw a barrel at a price of 50-60 dollars.
    Many shouts of respected authors about shale oil, Iran, etc.

    I would like to ask shaman traders:
    1) Chevrons, Exxon-Mobils, etc. have set up rigs around the world to "expensive" (!!!) oil fields around the world. Mentioned companies that would agree to go into hyperminus for trillions of dollars?
    2) The commodity countries, with 20-30 green for oil, will buy trillions less American weapons, European and Asian equipment, Chinese free trade ...?

    ... Russia is crushed by a barrel for improvisation with Crimea, Syria and Novorossia.
    Surkov and Gryzlov have been entrusted with the "difficult task of" saving "Private Barrel ...
    "And eat the fish, and ... do not drop the rating ..."
    I do not wish them luck ...
  • Psaking systems
    Psaking systems 28 January 2016 04: 07
    0
    And no one even called the owners of Goldman Sachs.
    I thought that even in the reviews they were mentioned and the bones would be washed by them ...