Kiev knot

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In the ancient legend, Alexander the Great had cut the Gordian knot with his sword, because it was impossible to unravel it. The Kiev knot is tightened by the Minsk agreements for almost a year, and it is unlikely that it will be possible to unravel it: it has become very similar to Gordians. Soon it will be necessary to act according to the historical method of the surgeon Alexander the Great ...

Kiev knot


Recall how he inhibited. It all started with the January offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas in 2015, according to the officially given order of Commander-in-Chief Poroshenko. This offensive was stopped by the BCH, tightened with a Debaltz boiler and sealed by Minsk-2.

Why Moscow went to the signing of the Minsk agreements? Recall that the initiators of the Minsk meeting were made by French President Hollande and German Chancellor Merkel, who, after last year’s Munich Conference, urgently flew to Moscow to Vladimir Putin, spitting on Atlantic unity, since the Russian president was brilliantly absent in Munich. Senator McCain was very indignant at their voyage.

President Hollande blurted out to journalists then that the "big European war" was at stake, so he and Merkel undertook an urgent flight to Moscow to Putin. Night, I remember, the negotiations of the Moscow triumvirate were successful, agreed on the conditions of "Minsk-2", the political part of which was a victory for Moscow, and a trap for Kiev.

Since the implementation of the Minsk agreements leads to the political capitulation of the Bandera regime, precisely as a neo-fascist one. Why Poroshenko signed "Minsk-2"? They argue a lot about this ... in our opinion, Poroshenko, on the telephone advice of Biden’s friend, counted on ending the “Minsk-2” summer offensive in the Donbas, but it failed ...

Moscow went to the signing of "Minsk-2", because the alternative was to continue the war, spread it over the whole territory of Ukraine, with the possibility of growing into a "big European war." As a result of the Minsk agreements, some truce was established in the Donbass, and the implementation of Minsk-2 should have led to denazification and debandering of Kiev by peaceful means, under pressure from Russia, France and Germany, as a bonus, Russia agreed with the territorial integrity of mainland Ukraine. This seems to be the significance of the Minsk agreements for Russia.

A year later, before the new Munich conference, we see that Hollande and Merkel, continuing to swear "Minsk-2", are being removed from the Minsk process, instead of them the deputy for the negotiator on its implementation arrived in Kaliningrad. US Secretary of State Victoria Nuland ...

Moscow has fewer hopes to stop the Bandera-fascist component of the Kiev regime with the help of the Minsk agreements. In fact, Hollande and Merkel betrayed the letter and spirit of the Moscow agreement with Putin, “do not exert pressure on Kiev,” in a diplomatic language of Sergey Lavrov. To Victoria Nuland who appeared instead of them, Moscow, in annoyance, sends a political consultant, presidential aide Vladislav Surkov, this is still a diplomatic slap in the face and the State Department, and especially Kiev. They clarified their positions in the brainstorming, but no results were achieved, so there is no point for Putin to go to Munich! However, it is very interesting what Prime Minister Medvedev will say in Munich. Most likely, it will be a tough speech ...

The case goes to the disruption of the Minsk agreements, but it is important how they will be disrupted, that is, by military means, with the new offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas, about which a number of analysts speak, or by a political crisis. In any case, there is nothing left for Russia to do but declare Kiev as no longer legitimacy, on the basis of non-compliance with the Minsk agreements. And the suppression of the population by the neo-Nazi Bandera militarized battalions, the plantings in the country of the neo-Nazi Bandera ideology. The West is constantly denying legitimacy to regimes it dislikes, so Moscow, in this case, will simply take advantage of Western political values.

Formal oaths of loyalty to “Minsk-2” by all his haters, even official Kiev, say that our Western colleagues understand the threat hanging over them, in the form of depriving Moscow of the remnants of the legitimacy of the Kiev regime. After that, all hopes for the federalization of the country turn to dust, and the Yugoslav scenario becomes on the agenda ...

In this sense, the head of the Ministry of Finance Yaresko in Davos is of interest as the future Prime Minister of the Kiev regime, after the resignation of Brother Rabbit, according to some observers. The basis for this was her political statements, first of all, the Crimean oath of allegiance. She swore by the Crimea that she was against “taking it away” from Ukraine.

The Crimea, in response to Poroshenko and Yaresko’s Davos statements, announced through the mouth of Prosecutor Poklonskaya a wanted list, on a charge of terrorism, of organizing a blockade of the Crimea by People’s Deputy VRU Dzhemilev and his Medzhlis company. These charges can be extended to the official Kiev, in aiding the terrorists-bombers of power lines.

On the other hand, all the rhetoric of Yaresko can be a bluff, and it is she who, as an American citizen and a direct protege of the Department of State, can dramatically change the political course in the prime minister’s office, in accordance with the latest instructions from US Vice President Joe Biden about the need to create the United States of Ukraine. This is consistent with the Minsk agreements, and removes the accusations of Russia of the West in the Minsk betrayal.

While Moscow is waiting, when Kiev is clearly tearing down the Minsk agreements, or will begin to implement them, shooting off the vanguard of its revolution. Then we will see the continuation of the revolutionary thriller “Dignity” live. This reality show, with an unknown result, in contrast to film trailers. Session start time: Fierce month.

The question remains: to whom did the annual Minsk truce benefit? It is answered in different ways. For example, Russia during this period was able to greatly impress the NATO generals with a demonstration of the RF AUF in Syria. This is an example of how Russia can cut the Kiev knot.

Yes, a lot will be decided in February, and therefore Putin is not going to Munich: the commander-in-chief at such a time should be among the troops, on a dashing KP.
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  1. +7
    27 January 2016 06: 24
    This is how the Macedonian knot must be cut. On the bank street, "Ashbringers" to beat at the moment when all this trash will sit.
    1. +9
      27 January 2016 07: 02
      Quote: Vladimir
      This is how the Macedonian must be cut Kuevsky knot.

      For Alexander, it ended badly, if you are not in the know, he died in the color of years. The task was precisely that the knot had to be unraveled, then it would have become the ruler of all of Asia. Alexander solved the problem too radically, because he almost conquered Asia, but did not have time to become overlord, protruded.
      1. +2
        27 January 2016 08: 19
        He is not dead. He was poisoned. There is such a version and I believe in it more.
        1. -1
          27 January 2016 09: 44
          Yes ... Politicians have less and less faith. We’ll wait again for spring ... and there they will start shooting again. Well, really nothing can be done once and for all?
      2. +4
        27 January 2016 10: 18
        Quote: inkass_98
        Alexander solved the problem too radically, because he almost conquered Asia, but did not manage to become overlord, protruded.
        And he remained in history as a great commander and conqueror.
  2. +28
    27 January 2016 06: 34
    However, it is very interesting what Prime Minister Medvedev will say in Munich. Most likely, it will be a harsh speech ...

    Well, yes, he has every word "cast in granite". The author jokes or what?
    1. Riv
      -13
      27 January 2016 06: 43
      Of course jokes. :) We stock up on popcorn. I’m directly looking forward to listening to Vova iPhone’s speech.
      1. +9
        27 January 2016 07: 43
        Quote: Riv
        Of course jokes. :) We stock up on popcorn. I’m directly looking forward to listening to Vova iPhone’s speech.

        Until recently, Dima seemed to be an iPhone with us. Or am I missing something?
        1. +3
          27 January 2016 10: 30
          He probably meant Uncle Vova's "iPhone"
          1. Riv
            +1
            27 January 2016 14: 38
            Humor was hard to understand ...
            1. PKK
              0
              28 January 2016 01: 17
              You feel bad with humor.
              1. Riv
                0
                28 January 2016 02: 49
                I just "and" missed. Wrong. Well, the duets are called so: "Potap and Nastya", "Plug and Tarapunka". And then I thought that without "and" it is not bad.
        2. The comment was deleted.
      2. 0
        27 January 2016 22: 21
        As if Vova still hadn’t spoken there.
      3. 0
        27 January 2016 22: 21
        As if Vova still hadn’t spoken there.
    2. +5
      27 January 2016 09: 07
      Will not fall asleep and that’s good
  3. +3
    27 January 2016 06: 45
    we see that Hollande and Merkel, continuing to swear by “Minsk-2”, are being removed from the Minsk process

    They realized what a headache it was, and their problems were over the top. Moreover, it has already been accepted as the norm to reproach Russia for disrupting Minsk-2. So they decided that even if Moscow has a headache, we will occasionally remind Poroshenko of the need to take any action under this agreement.
  4. +24
    27 January 2016 06: 47
    Yes, a lot will be decided in February, and therefore Putin is not going to Munich: the commander-in-chief at such a time should be among the troops, on a dashing KP.... Especially interesting is the last statement of the "Darkest" that the inclusion of Donbass in Ukraine was a mistake of the Soviet government ...
    1. +15
      27 January 2016 09: 47
      Quote: parusnik
      Especially interesting is the last statement of the "Darkest" that the inclusion of Donbass in Ukraine was a mistake of the Soviet regime ...


      In my opinion, all of Ukraine is one big mistake. And it needs to be fixed.
      1. +4
        27 January 2016 18: 15
        It is necessary to correct it, but, unfortunately, there are 40 million "mistakes" and "mistakes" that have joined them. How to fix them? More precisely, how can they fix their crazy brains? Apparently for a long time and persistently, "page by page", that is, by regions.
  5. +1
    27 January 2016 06: 58
    Summary-Minsk agreements for Russia turned out to be a trap-regardless of their implementation by the republics, they automatically hang new sabaks on Russia, and continue to blame them for all conceivable and unthinkable troubles and sins.
  6. +3
    27 January 2016 07: 05
    The question is in the Ukrainian economy, but it is breathing in the dark.
    The people in Ukraine are unhappy with what is happening now. Not for that jumped.
    1. +7
      27 January 2016 09: 54
      Quote: Cap.Morgan
      Not for that jumped.


      Very much for that. Some people, when you try to explain something to them, rest like sheep, - no, that's all. These ones, they also explained to them dozens of times, that moving towards Oyropa, will not lead to anything good, will be such and such. Let them now try in their own skin what the taste of Nuland cookies is.
  7. +13
    27 January 2016 07: 06
    Do not believe anyone. The main player is still the United States, and it is not beneficial for them to resolve the Ukrainian conflict, the task is just to create problems for Russia and keep them in suspense. Yes, the West and the USA do not give a damn about Ukraine, Russia began to raise its head, the main the pain started in them.
  8. +2
    27 January 2016 07: 25
    Dear, in general, I am amazed without the action of our top officials in relation to Ukraine, it just does not reach the Kremlin, Ukraine is still "small" problems and it is simply necessary to solve them now, then it will be a huge problem in all directions and the solution will drag on for decades, not what The Gryzlovs, Surkovs cannot solve this problem, the approach must be comprehensive, well thought out
    1. +4
      27 January 2016 08: 41
      If you collapse the outskirts immediately, and not gradually, then not every inhabitant will realize what is good and what is bad. But the collapse of gas trade with Europe or the problems at the Ukrainian nuclear power plant are certainly not needed by anyone.
    2. +15
      27 January 2016 10: 26
      With all due respect to your opinion, I believe that these "small" problems Ukraine I have to decide myselfputting it sloppy gobble up everything you cooked without help... Any positive "action of our highest ranks"This process will stop and freeze. And everything will remain in its place - Bandera, oligarchs, obediently approving population ...
      And who will be appointed as the last? I can literally express how it will look:
      - If you (Russians) did it right away, then Ukraine would have been whole and thousands of people would not have died! I hate creatures !!!
      No really! That is why I believe that our government at the moment "approach ... comprehensive well thought out"
  9. aba
    +1
    27 January 2016 07: 28
    what Prime Minister Medvedev will say in Munich. Most likely, it will be a harsh speech ...

    I doubt it, however! (c)
    Most likely, the author expressed this idea under the impression of 2008. Yes, but now it’s not 2008, and Mr. Medvedev is no longer the president!
  10. kig
    -13
    27 January 2016 07: 31
    It all started with the January offensive of the Armed Forces in the Donbass
    Someone K. Prutkov offered to look at the root, and if you follow this advice, you can see that it all started from the Crimea. I would not want to admit it. There would be no Crimea (at least in the way it was done) - there would be no Donbass.
    1. +15
      27 January 2016 07: 45
      So it’s so, but we can continue: "there would be no fascist coup and the US attempt to put its fleet instead of ours - there would be no Crimea"
      1. kig
        -10
        27 January 2016 08: 06
        US fleet instead of ours? Something about this was not mentioned anywhere, although it would be a great excuse.
        1. -1
          27 January 2016 10: 01
          Quote: kig
          great excuse.


          Great excuse, for what?
        2. +6
          27 January 2016 16: 27
          Quote: kig
          US fleet instead of ours? Something about this was not mentioned anywhere, although it would be a great excuse.

          Mentioned
          “A tender for the reconstruction of Sevastopol School No. 5 under the engineering base of the US Navy is hanging on the US procurement website.
          The Americans announced a tender for the repair of the Sevastopol school on September 5, 2013, applications for participation were accepted until October 21, 2013. And on April 15, 2014, a month after the referendum on the peninsula, it was canceled. As indicated, "in connection with the current situation in Ukraine."
          1. +2
            27 January 2016 21: 59
            Quote: APASUS
            A tender for the reconstruction of school No. 5 of Sevastopol under the engineering base of the US Navy hangs on the US procurement website
            I allow myself the arrogance to complement a little respected APASUSYes At the end of 2013, obscure logistic movements of the American Navy began, which ended exactly by
            Quote: APASUS
            April 15, 2014, a month after the referendum on the peninsula
            Apparently, they were preparing for the transfer of l / s and materiel, but it did not grow together. I note that body movements have begun to coup in Kiev. I will not provide proofs on this topic, because now looking for them is a hopeless and graceless business, everything has been cleaned up. We will assume that "they talked about this on the Internet." But what can be easily found on the Internet. Immediately after the coup in Kiev, their Verkhovna Zrada Vukrainy began to actively discuss the issue of terminating the agreement on the basis of the Russian Black Sea Fleet (according to which they had a constant one hundred-dollar discount on gas, I suspect that if the gas price was less than $ 100, they would have demanded a surcharge). And they even accepted something about this, but then the Crimeans (so that they had a lot of health and longevity) arranged a practical lesson on the theoretical topic "salmon tuna", which they had previously practiced with regard to Russia for no reason. Even before they even had time to get crazy with such incredible impudence, the booters one day finally realized that they were left not only without Crimea, but also without a discount on gas. Because at the next negotiations on gas, to his obvious question: "Where is our discount?" received a quite rhetorical answer: "Guys, what are you talking about? You yourself canceled everything. And actually Krymnash." Something like that.
    2. +6
      27 January 2016 10: 00
      Quote: kig
      There would be no Crimea (at least in the way it was done) - there would be no Donbass.


      You, apparently, are not friends with your head, if there weren’t Crimea, there would be an American fleet there now, which number I don’t know, the fleet.
    3. +3
      27 January 2016 11: 48
      You are wrong, in the Crimea it would be the same as in the Donbass. Even worse.
    4. 0
      28 January 2016 12: 55
      Quote: kig
      it all started with Crimea

      The root is not Crimea at all. At the root is Boston, where they celebrated the famous tea party. Their king (from the United Kingdom) could not cope with the education of personnel. Soon, 250 years of eternally incompetent disrupt the world community.
  11. +2
    27 January 2016 08: 02
    Yes, the year promises to be ... historical.
    In an interesting time we live, however.
    After all, this is essentially the Crimean War and
    We experience other historical things in a new format.
    1. kig
      +2
      27 January 2016 08: 13
      Yeah. And if you still listen to the president’s words about a time bomb in Lenin’s ideas about the independence of the Union republics, then it’s interesting at all.
  12. 0
    27 January 2016 08: 12
    Quote: kig
    It all started with the January offensive of the Armed Forces in the Donbass
    Someone K. Prutkov offered to look at the root, and if you follow this advice, you can see that it all started from the Crimea. I would not want to admit it. There would be no Crimea (at least in the way it was done) - there would be no Donbass.

    If you see at the root it all began with the erroneous formation of the Ukrainian SSR, Lenin was mistaken. You can go further to the root, Pereslavl Rada, if you push today's Ukraine into those borders, everything will be smooth.
    1. kig
      -1
      27 January 2016 08: 15
      Let’s take a look, let’s take a look even further: Crimea was once Turkish, and Greeks lived there before.
      1. kig
        0
        27 January 2016 08: 20
        Although no, the Crimean Khanate was there, and since the Khanate means Tatars, and now where do Tatars live? In Kazan. Where is Kazan? In Russia. So everything is correct.
    2. +3
      27 January 2016 18: 27
      Lenin was wrong? - Whatever it is. With all my sympathies for the current communist movement, I will note that Lenin was primarily a hardened Russophobe. From his works (and I still managed to inspect them a lot in my youth), his interpretation simply shows through in the form of an iron link "autocracy / tsarism - the Russian people." He was a brilliant revolutionary and a "project manager", and unlike Trotsky, he did not speak out about "turning into white blacks", but he was of the same opinion. “Masses” is the terminology introduced into circulation by those merchants. As a result, we have: the Bolsheviks defeated Ukrainian nationalism, opposing it with proletarian internationalism, and this seems to be not bad. But they did it at the expense of the Russian people, including at the expense of Novorossiya.
  13. +7
    27 January 2016 08: 16
    Coups, and even neo-fascist on the borders of Russia just do not happen. No illusions: 22 February 2014 United States launched an operation against Russia, one might say, the Third World War, while it is in a hybrid form, and in hot in the Donbas. How will this war end? It is necessary to fight, on all fronts, and hope for God's help, if we deserve it ...
    1. kig
      0
      27 January 2016 09: 13
      It all started much earlier when in Ukraine (specifically I write B and not ON) sprouts of Russophobia appeared. He worked a lot with the Ukrainians, even now. There were Ukrainian Ukrainians among them, there were Russians, and NOBODY said anything bad about Russia and Russians, even now. But the phobia began to grow politicians, as always. Our politicians blundered this matter, they had other enemies in those days, different Khodorkovsky and Gusinsky. Now we have a hostile state right on the doorstep. Who's guilty? They themselves are to blame.
      1. +4
        27 January 2016 10: 24
        Quote: kig
        Who's guilty? They themselves are to blame.


        Judging by your comments, you sir sledger still jumps to the tops. But we also killed the Ukrainian economy, and did we overthrow Yanuk, without waiting for the election? And what a strange thing to swell billions of bucks, how is it? And in the Security Service of Ukraine to launch TsRUshnikov, we too? You don’t think, shut up. This is called geopolitics. And in this particular case, in Ukraine there is the most ordinary diversion against Russia. The ultimate goal of which is the destruction of Russia as an independent, sovereign state with its own geopolitical interests. Although to whom I explain, you are an ordinary provocateur, neither the flag nor the homeland. Leave the site, clown.
      2. 0
        27 January 2016 11: 50
        You directly support the galloping ones, just don't utter slogans like "yaku na gilyaku"
        1. 0
          28 January 2016 13: 04
          Quote: serezhasoldatow
          You directly support the galloping ones, just don't utter slogans like "yaku na gilyaku"

          Your Excellency, to whom did you want to insert the wick? Is it possible to call out, or at least turn to, a conference that is objectionable to you?
  14. +1
    27 January 2016 08: 35
    here you have the ukrainian santa barbara, look do not look enough, all the best is yet to come, you will directly laugh if you don’t die earlier ...
  15. +1
    27 January 2016 08: 57
    And something about the Nicaraguan channel silence. How is construction moving there? Have our aircraft begun to guard him?
    1. PKK
      0
      28 January 2016 01: 25
      Apparently the canal was postponed due to the fact that the Mistral intended for the protection of work sailed to the side.
  16. +8
    27 January 2016 09: 49
    Around is falsehood and bondage, the people tortured to mumble, and on the apostolic throne the bandit sated to the full. T.G. Shevchenko 1850
  17. +7
    27 January 2016 10: 10
    Quote: scud
    Around is falsehood and bondage, the people tortured to mumble, and on the apostolic throne the bandit sated to the full. T.G. Shevchenko 1850

    The quote seems to be correct, only this "tortured people" very cheerfully supported the Maidan coup ...., beat himself in the chest about "over significance in world history and exclusivity", took off the panties of the Vinnitsa factory in order to put on immediately in the European Union several pairs of theirs underwear. laughing
    I am not saying it unfounded: in the first six months after the Maidan, I lost 3 old friends who were between 50 and 60 years old (that is, they were born in the USSR, grew up in it, lived in Belarus, and only 10 years ago left for Dill). So these "friends" unanimously mocked me, the Belarusian fool, who saw the whole of Geyropa in a coffin, and painted in colors how leaps and bounds they burst into Geyropa, how "unbearably difficult" it was for them to live under the "Russian occupation" and how they they hate the USSR and the Russians.
    And according to this, my opinion is that there is nothing to be sorry for them until the thugs rest, and the rest do not sober up and crawl on their knees towards Moscow, and at the same time they will take charge of restoring order at home! angry
    1. 0
      27 January 2016 18: 25
      Nord 62 completely agree with you. Served in Belarus.
    2. 0
      27 January 2016 18: 25
      Nord 62 completely agree with you. Served in Belarus.
    3. 0
      28 January 2016 13: 11
      Quote: nord62
      at the same time, they will take up the process of restoring order at home!

      Who will give them? While the boys are dumb, the new owners straighten out the title deeds. The boys sober up in the candeyka, where the foreman of the black sea diving was sitting. Who will survive.
  18. +3
    27 January 2016 10: 53
    with great binges!
  19. -3
    27 January 2016 11: 26
    And what does Lenin have to do with it !? Ukraine's striving to become an independent state (especially among the home-grown intelligentsia) began under the "mother" Catherine II, when the hopeless prospect of becoming a serf loomed and changing the "Jew-landlord" to a landowner. All this led to the thought - "Enough to feed her." So, after the February coup (there was no revolution - there was a usurpation of power by the ministers - capitalists), Ukraine declared independence and made peace with the Germans! The front collapsed and the Bolsheviks had to rescue the country in a fire brigade and conclude the Brest peace. So, the creation of the Ukrainian SSR was a natural political step and responded to the desire of the majority of Ukrainians to feel on a par with the Russians. In the 70s I grew up in Ukraine (my grandfather was the director of the Ukrainian school and went through the entire war from 41 to 45 and was a staunch communist) and one should not think that even if Russian troops enter Kiev, everyone will jump for joy and immediately become Russians. The striving for independence did not appear in 1917 !! This is a long process and its roots go back to the Middle Ages. Everything is very ambiguous, and of course, the main culprits are the national bourgeoisie, led by the Russian, who destroyed and stole the USSR in 1991. So say thank you to Yeltsin, to whom the first people of Russia lay flowers!
  20. 0
    27 January 2016 11: 38
    The Ukrainian people have not yet matured to condition. They still want to torment.
    In this situation, a bad world is better than a good war.
  21. +1
    27 January 2016 13: 06
    Not always simple solutions are the most correct. If the interests of so many people are tied to this, there simply cannot be simple solutions. Solutions in this situation can only be the most possible.
  22. 0
    27 January 2016 13: 33
    yeah, everyone wants to grab a piece of their own hands, but everyone understands that one is not the right step and there will be a third world one. money with money, but in the event of a nuclear war, money is no longer needed. so everyone just barks and bites lightly. but he doesn’t dare to enter into a serious battle ...
  23. +3
    27 January 2016 13: 35
    However, it is very interesting what Prime Minister Medvedev will say in Munich. Most likely, it will be a harsh speech ...

    I see, the author likes to joke ... wink
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 18: 31
      Before departure, it is necessary to pick up an iPhone from Dama and give Khrushchov’s boot. The tool often determines the type of work that will have to be done. Maybe it will help?
  24. +3
    27 January 2016 14: 48
    Personally, I, Khokhlov, am very ashamed to be Khokhlov. About half of the ukrov-stupid herd is ready to blame anyone for their cattle situation but not yourself. Extinction goes by leaps and bounds, every day no less than 40 souls leave for Zaporozhye to Moscow to work. There isn’t enough of their own, they distributed it to the heroes, and they crowded around the world.
  25. 0
    27 January 2016 19: 24
    Wait and see. smile
  26. +1
    27 January 2016 19: 59
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    However, it is very interesting what Prime Minister Medvedev will say in Munich. Most likely, it will be a harsh speech ...

    Well, yes, he has every word "cast in granite". The author jokes or what?


    Let it be menacing, as always, goggle, puff out your cheeks and ... mumble.
  27. 0
    27 January 2016 20: 05
    Quote: andrew42
    Before departure, it is necessary to pick up an iPhone from Dama and give Khrushchov’s boot. The tool often determines the type of work that will have to be done. Maybe it will help?


    He has Google in his heel, so it won't help.
  28. +1
    27 January 2016 20: 06
    The Kiev situation, in my opinion, is not a knot. They have been in a state of permanent Maidan for 10 years, they are already used to it. I don’t like it all, maybe, but they’re used to it as an inevitable evil.
    Quote: Oles
    The bulk of the people, as always. The people survive as best they can. What s.ka, characteristic - taverns do not close, Lexus ride, gesheft muddied.

    2 years ago, 2 vectors were identified that did not balance each other, not opposing: the West and the Center are fighting for power, and the South-East is striving for separation. The new government does not intend to let go of the regions that are filling the budget, and it is indicatively smashing the infrastructure: “So don’t get to anyone!”
    The impasse is that the Southeast does not intend to take power, either by military or by legitimate means.
    If there was a fight, there would be a winner, I would build everything for myself. And so - the situation is deteriorating and is already stinking. Minsk agreements in the language of chess - Pat. Now, Biden, as they quote, agrees that "it is necessary to create autonomous, independent states ...", but only Kiev is unlikely to agree.
    Those who want to "cut the knot", I think, are not found; take responsibility and "pay for broken pots" - thank you! Hardly anyone will give money to continue the Maidan Carnival; small handouts - yes, but they can’t revive the country. Yes, the Yugoslav version ...
    "Soon we will have to act according to the historical method of the surgeon Alexander the Great ..."
    The Minsk agreements, IMHO, are needed for that, to do without "surgery". Decomposition should reach such a condition that Kiev will no longer have Donetsk and Lugansk, and maybe by then Kharkov too. When the junta from the brutal crowd rushes to the airfield, then “polite people” will be needed again.
    But this, apparently, is still far away ...
    Quote: Oles
    There are no people who want to crawl on their knees to different capitals and ask for forgiveness. What next will be seen. And yes, protest moods around the city 200%, with a minus sign
  29. 0
    27 January 2016 20: 26
    Some kind of stupidity turns out, and not New Russia.
  30. 0
    27 January 2016 20: 53
    Everything is simpler. We must have woolen pedagogues like Yaytsenyuk, Turchinov, etc. crap ... invite again to Minsk, and, in accordance with international law, put kaidans on them.
    Well, this is a childish version in which those who believe the impartial Court believe.
    Everything is made easier and cheaper. And the comrades from the "services" can do it better than me.

    Generally amazing! Kalo Moishe wanted. Well, oligarch. Well, the guard. Steep. So what?
    Either there are no professionals (and I am sure they are!), OR NO POLITICAL WILL TO DRAG THIS FROW INTO AN EXTENDED CAMERA somewhere in a pre-trial detention center in a provincial town?
  31. 0
    27 January 2016 23: 28
    All write write ...
    Not only did Putin oversleep Ukraine.
    He gave hope to the East of Ukraine that he would protect.
    He did not defend, but restrained, trying to restore the status quo.
    He admitted the bitterness of most Ukrainians in relation to Russia.
    He did not expect sanctions, but built a model of the economy based on the West.
    Could save many lives, as with the Crimea.
    According to the results for today, it’s clear that he didn’t calculate correctly, because the sanctions were imposed anyway, the East of Ukraine was destroyed, people were threshed and continue to urk and will continue shelling, and we already lost the East of Ukraine.
    What to pull, now would be with the Crimea, Eastern Ukraine (Novorossiya) and with sanctions, but in the end ... Even more tightly knotted.
    After all, it was clear that most of the eastern inhabitants of Ukraine were ready, the Ukrainian army did not want and was not ready. The technique was pulled together for a month.
    Eh ... He circled himself around the finger, I feel sorry for people. They don’t leave their own. And now it turned out, if soberly and not biased, then scam.

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