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Russian airborne armored cavalry tank divisions in the Donbas is over!

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Loud such a headline, huh? But it is necessary to begin with a certain lyrical digression, a narration about freedom. Freedom is a wonderful state of mind and body. And every normal person understands this.




But there is one “Freedom” that we do not understand. Maybe somewhere and understand it, as it should, but we do not. I mean Radio Liberty. Probably, we do not understand precisely because we operate with our own concepts about freedom of speech in particular. And without such a huge amount of outright lies. What for? Anyway, the truth will be known sooner or later.

But nowadays you cannot get away from the information flow. We read a lot. Sometimes we watch TV. Therefore, in the course of some events.

So I got on the site of the radio itself. Got and read ... Not to say that quality, but fantastic. And I love science fiction since school days. It is interesting to read thoughts about what will happen or what might have happened sometime. This time I read the interview with American science fiction, oh, sorry, military expert Philip Karber.

I myself understand a little in military matters. Because the opinion of the American colleagues was interesting. And not a boy wrote. Like the same age. One generation we. We live in the world quite a lot already. And saw a lot.

This very Philip Carber proudly writes that he came to Ukraine for the 18 time. And the problems of the Ukrainian army knows from the inside. He even ate with Ukrainian senior officers. And slept with them in the same hotel. And this, you know ... View from the inside. I will write further just by interview. There is not even much to comment on.

"Considering the state of the army at the beginning of the war, the level of training of the fighters, the number of vehicles and other achievements of it is a miracle. Your fighters were able to stop Putin! Of course, he could attack with large forces, but still it is a miracle."

Nothing to start with? I wonder what they fed, especially what the Ukrainians fed the American expert? You did not know, and the American perfectly saw the attacks of our armored cavalry landing units! And he saw the superiority of the Russian army. What, fat so vkoryachivaet? Come on ... we ate this lard, and did not catch such "pictures". So it's not the fat matter at all.

But the miners Carber did not see. What to look at them? I did not see the brain, I did not see Bednova ... I will not even list them. It's easier to watch the parade in Donetsk or Lugansk. And pay attention to the awards defenders of Donbass. Everything is visible there. But continue to read.

“One and a half years, the Russians, it can be said, trained the Ukrainian army, and now it’s a completely different army! Of course, Russia can increase the onslaught, use Aviation or even use nuclear weapon. But if they continue the current tactics, then nothing will be achieved. I communicated with all the brigade commanders on the front line, and there is not one under whose guidance I or my son would not be ready to serve. "

Pheasants, you say? Or peacocks? Interestingly, if an American military expert is ready to serve in the Ukrainian army, then in what condition is the American army then? Although most recently, many have seen the weeping American commandos on the boats captured by the Iranians. Philip is probably right. If specialists catch like boys then ...

"However, there are bad news. In particular, attacks on General Nazarov, Deputy Chairman of the General Staff. People say that he must answer for the death of fighters in the transport aircraft, which sent to the Donetsk airport for help. As for me, this is nonsense - if people without military experience start accusing officers of military losses, this country is doomed, and its armed forces can be thrown into the garbage. "

Here it is interesting. Already from the point of view of the military. The generals are not to blame for the useless death of soldiers ... And who is to blame? Who planned the "great victories"? And why the hell then need generals?

No, of course, I can believe in the military genius of former artists, drivers and miners. I can even believe that in reality these are personnel officers "from the former" or "vacationers." Only here as a military man I understand perfectly well that intelligence is more important to the commander than the thoughts of politicians from the Rada. The great Ukrainian army has no intelligence? Joking expert Intelligence in a civil war lives like a fish in water. The best environment, so to speak. There is a man on both sides of the front. Around a mess ...

"The army needs people to take responsibility for hard decisions, for decisions that endanger the lives of soldiers. Even Machiavelli said that war is half good and if officers don't make a decision until they are sure about 100 percent, the enemy will take advantage of their passivity and win. "

This is probably the only place that I fully support. Although the words are not an American expert, but this is true. A commander is not the one who sends soldiers to death. And the one who performs the task and keeps his unit in combat readiness. And he does not hide his eyes for his order in front of the surviving soldiers, because he is right. A thousand times right and he went in the same row with the fighters. This is the commander. The rest is garbage in uniform.

But the following will be a discovery for you. Not because you do not know the essence of the events. Just because a military expert does not write malicious notes, but quite seriously.

"The defense of airports was an extremely important task for a number of reasons. First, if separatists declare autonomy, then according to international law, one of the indicators of this autonomy is an airport or seaport, and that is why, by the way, militants need Mariupol so much. Second “Any airport would give Russia the opportunity to conduct military operations much faster and quickly change their vector. And, thirdly, the separatists allegedly tried to create their own air force: Russia gave them several planes."

Probably, you remember these attempts to restore training planes in the Donbas. So, it was they who, as it turned out, destroyed the Ukrainian aviation. And drove these planes from Russia. Funny But the report will be read in the United States. And not only civilian "jackets", but also the command from the Pentagon. Bravo, expert! Burn it again!

Moreover, Philip very originally interprets the success of military operations. Pure American. I will simply list the great victories of the Ukrainian army performed by the American.

1. The 95 airborne brigade offensive in August 2014 on the Mius River. And the output of 79 brigade on the route Donetsk - Mariupol.

2. Defense and retreat from Lugansk airport plus Ilovaysk. You can retreat successfully!

3. Defense of Mariupol. According to the American, the losses of the Russians here were colossal. But how it relates to the facts is not completely clear.

4. Defense and retreat from Donetsk airport. True, the corpses of cyborgs filled up all the terminals. But the operation is successful!

5. Debaltseva defense! This is about the boiler. For the "separatists," I will specifically cite the expert’s opinion about the losses there. “According to my calculations, the Russians lost ten killed and wounded for each Ukrainian. I myself saw their bodies lying in several rows.” Interestingly, Philip did not confuse the uniform of the soldiers? Or insignia? No, not confused ...

"There were several hundred pieces of equipment at the Debaltsevsky bridgehead - tanks, artillery and the like. About 40% of them were left there, also the warehouses were not blown up, and the Russians seized many different stocks. But the main thing that they saved is the personnel. The goal of the Russians was an attack on Kramatorsk, Artemovsk and further on Kharkov. But they could not do it. Why? Because they suffered huge losses! "

And who doubted it? Someone said that it was necessary to continue to drive ukrov. American clearly answered. All killed and ... departed. True, leaving the equipment and weapons, but retaining staff. Well, except for those ... who are still "missing" or have run to the "separatists."

This is, of course, a new word in world military affairs. Kill the enemy, inflict loss of 1 to 10, continue to throw all the equipment and weapons, and all personnel begin to march somewhere ... Ah! Immediately do not understand. For awards !!!

In short, the American military expert, whose views are familiar in the Pentagon, is clearly "Pentagon." And for what? Why all these imaginary victories and Russian troops? Why try to portray the Ukrainian army in a positive light?

Yes, just everything. Mr. expert requires the United States to begin deliveries of lethal weapons to Ukraine. Ukraine is "ripe" for American weapons. Looking for expensive anti-tank complexes. Looking for combat drones. Everything is necessary. And then the Russian death. Scatter. And the "separatists" will crawl into their mines.

It would only have cost Philip to talk to the other side. LDNR open to talking. And look at the laughing faces of the fighters and commanders of the Donbass army after such "expert assessments."

By the way, about Russia. There is another weapon against any weapon. And this weapon, naturally, can appear from somewhere in the LDNR. So you can talk. You can ask, in this gentlemen, the Ukrainians are already super professionals in heavy weight. But Donetsk and Lugansk cemeteries have already sufficiently accepted the bodies of the victims of the Ukrainian Independence Square. Enough

This interview for Radio Liberty was published quite recently, January 22. And it is widely discussed especially in Ukraine. Americans "work out" it only in the army headquarters. But it seems to me that it is worth paying attention to. The breeze is blowing ever stronger towards the next escalation of the conflict in the east of Ukraine. Poroshenko's regime frantically looking for ways to distract people from internal problems. A better distraction than war, alas, has not yet been invented.
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  1. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 26 January 2016 05: 56
    48
    Leave, dill, people alone. Let them just live. And then come, so described. Do not anger Uncle Vladimir. And Shoigu too.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 26 January 2016 06: 09
      40
      It is also a virtual feature, like the "victories" of ukrov:

      2 part:
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 26 January 2016 06: 34
        -83 qualifying.
        Appreciated. Russia is the country of the Great Depardieu. To study, study and study, as Great Lenin bequeathed. I do not jerk, he was a person, like Stalin. There were people.
        1. domokl
          domokl 26 January 2016 07: 00
          14
          laughing Was just on the site Echo of Moscow ... There this article is ... I don’t even know how to perceive ... Echo is getting smarter or we ... that ... what
          1. Dembel77
            Dembel77 26 January 2016 07: 23
            151
            True, you read nonsense about Russian troops in Ukraine ... about their defeat ... blah blah blah .. - and you feel an old soreness in your mouth. When will these "experts" get drunk on their vomit? And most importantly - apparently there is still a demand for such publications? As they say - an amazing number! And this is generally ... (I even ate together with Ukrainian senior officers. And slept with them (.........) in the same hotels) !!! Maybe already a habit? repeat
            1. Victor Demchenko
              Victor Demchenko 26 January 2016 14: 28
              +8
              But about Klitschko pearl, this is it! exactly! in the duplicate Svidomo! Well, that's true! good
            2. EvgNik
              EvgNik 26 January 2016 14: 59
              +6
              It has long been an interview with Gnatyuk (singer, back in Soviet times). He drove through Donetsk and did not see our troops anywhere. Only who needs it? Our army needs to be - and it is (although it is not). Paradox.
              1. oracul
                oracul 27 January 2016 09: 18
                +1
                Or maybe we have "stealth" troops, so they are not visible to ordinary people? But seriously, the maximum permissible concentration of sick people on the head in Ukraine, both their own and others, scales.
            3. mahor
              mahor 26 January 2016 15: 57
              +1
              better aom! nus
            4. YGV-97219
              YGV-97219 26 January 2016 19: 37
              +5
              That's for this Vitalik respect from all progressive humanity in my face! lol
            5. OlegLex
              OlegLex 27 January 2016 16: 56
              +1
              in some hotels) !!! Maybe already a habit?
              what there write do not be shy and slept in hotels in the same bed, it’s such a shame for us that it’s a shame to even think about enemies and for these bitch children it’s not just the norm it’s the pride of AIDS on them there are no damned sodomites
            6. gav6757
              gav6757 28 January 2016 22: 38
              +1
              What do you have to have more than once !!! smile
          2. siberalt
            siberalt 26 January 2016 11: 07
            +8
            Well fiction for dill. Yes, the rope does not curl for a long time. They will answer in full.
          3. EvgNik
            EvgNik 26 January 2016 14: 53
            +2
            Quote: domokl
            ..Echo is getting smarter or we ... that ..

            Rather, or ...
          4. gav6757
            gav6757 28 January 2016 22: 37
            0
            I think they themselves believe in their balcony!
            They write, read themselves, then discuss with serious faces, and then believe !!!
            Yes, and then a representative of the State Department speaks and talks about "Buratino"!
            That's how fairy tales are created, so the Americans in Santa believe until the end of their lives ...
        2. Cap.Morgan
          Cap.Morgan 26 January 2016 07: 46
          +7
          In general, we are now raking him.
          After all, this is the great Lenin created a great Ukraine. With Donbas, Odessa, Kharkov.
          "Lenin planted an atomic bomb under Russia" - this is from the recent.
          1. madjik
            madjik 26 January 2016 09: 09
            43
            where is Lenin? the idea of ​​autonomization was developed by Stalin. Here, some allow you to call others lepers on your head. Don't touch LENIN. "" Lenin planted an atomic bomb under Russia "- this is from the recent." - and he also laid a lot of things - electrification, the elimination of illiteracy, etc. etc. And how can you smear everything? Tomorrow Putin will say something else and you will pick it up? You adults need to have your own views and principles! And x-sucking the mind long gone is inappropriate.
            1. Azitral
              Azitral 26 January 2016 09: 54
              -28 qualifying.
              "... and he also laid a lot of things - electrification, the elimination of illiteracy ..."
              They say that a philanthropist is a person who gives away in public a small fraction of what he stole secretly. Ulyanov successfully corrected an insignificant part of the damage that he caused. Without it, they would have been electrified. Without it and without the Civil War.
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 26 January 2016 10: 19
                46
                Quote: Azitral
                Ulyanov successfully corrected an insignificant part of the damage that he caused. Without it, they would have been electrified. Without it and without the Civil War.


                Excuse me, but who ruined Russia, Lenin or all the same, unfinished Nikolashka ?! Who brought Russia to the revolution ?! Or do you think that Kerensky could reproduce something as significant as the USSR ?! Liberals have never created anything worthwhile, but only destroyed! In general, everything that we now have, we owe to Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin! If it weren’t for his genius, it’s not known we would have lived now at all!
                1. Lukich
                  Lukich 26 January 2016 14: 31
                  +2
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  If it weren’t for his genius, it’s not known we would have lived now at all!

                  Well then, all who used slave labor to achieve their goals are all geniuses. there are enough of them in history
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 26 January 2016 15: 59
                    +9
                    Quote: Lukich
                    Well then, all who used slave labor to achieve their goals are all geniuses. there are enough of them in history


                    Are you back for your own ?! Well, already tired of her to write the same thing! You can tell all these tales about "slave labor" and "bloody gebnya" to anyone, but not me!

                    And we also wonder why there is a clouding of consciousness in Ukraine! Yes, because they read a lot of all the False-Rezunov stuff and go ahead to debunk the "cult" of personality! His brains are clearly not enough to carry out at least some kind of analytics, to compare the facts, and there too!

                    YES THERE WAS A CULT, BUT WAS AND PERSONALITY! Although you do not understand this!
                2. Ganssh
                  Ganssh 27 January 2016 21: 53
                  0
                  a genius is not a genius but did therefore +
              2. EvgNik
                EvgNik 26 January 2016 16: 53
                -6
                Lenin put one thing in our heads - we must drag a log on a clean-up day. And that’s it. And electrification is a fairy tale for children.
            2. asiat_61
              asiat_61 26 January 2016 09: 58
              +7
              Lenin? Stalin /// Stalin developed the ideas of autonomy with a capital letter. Do you even read what you write? AUTONOMIZATION !!!!
              1. Lukich
                Lukich 26 January 2016 17: 20
                +2
                Quote: asiat_61
                Are you back for your own ?! Well, already tired of her to write the same thing! You can tell all these tales about "slave labor" and "bloody gebnya" to anyone, but not me!

                You want to say that millions have not passed the Gulag ??????? Yes, this data has long been on the Internet ????? and why not to you ???? because you see and read what is profitable for you ????? few people survived who passed the Gulag. use it that there are no living witnesses ??? documents remained. and I didn’t say a word about bloody gebnya. the dog is not to blame for biting. the owner gives the command to the dog. and who was the master ????
                1. Alf
                  Alf 26 January 2016 20: 15
                  +8
                  Quote: Lukich
                  You want to say that millions have not passed the Gulag ??????? Yes, this data has long been on the Internet ?????

                  Over the 30 years of the "bloody tyrant" rule, 2,5 million jail sentences have been passed. FOR 30 YEARS! In 2014, there were 2,5 million prisoners in the prisons of the great overseas democracy AT ONCE. Do you feel the difference-FOR 30 YEARS and ONCE.
                  And the free labor of prisoners in the United States is very widely used.
                  1. Lukich
                    Lukich 26 January 2016 23: 02
                    +2
                    Quote: Alf
                    Over the 30 years of the "bloody tyrant" rule, 2,5 million jail sentences have been passed. FOR 30 YEARS! In 2014, there were 2,5 million prisoners in the prisons of the great overseas democracy AT ONCE. Do you feel the difference-FOR 30 YEARS and ONCE.
                    And the free labor of prisoners in the United States is very widely used.

                    and how many of them died of starvation and inhuman conditions of detention ??? were they all there for 25 years without correspondence? the decision of the three? without a lawyer? you really do not make people laugh. they were put on trial. and on slave jobs did not use
                    1. Diana Ilyina
                      Diana Ilyina 27 January 2016 00: 03
                      +7
                      Quote: Lukich
                      and how many of them died of starvation and inhuman conditions of detention ??? were they all there for 25 years without correspondence? the decision of the three? without a lawyer? you really do not make people laugh. they were put on trial. and on slave jobs did not use


                      You will ask the Guantanamo prisoners and hundreds of other prisons around the world! Now I understand for sure that you are Jeroma's brother! Consider me declaring war on you too!
              2. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 26 January 2016 22: 41
                0
                According to the plan of Stalin's "autonomization", no USSR was envisaged. There would be the RSFSR, in which the autonomous republics, along with Tatarstan and Bashkiria, Turkestan, would be Ukraine, Belarus, and other republics.
            3. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 26 January 2016 13: 42
              +6
              Quote: madjik
              and where is Lenin? The ideas of autonomy were developed by Stalin.

              Ahem ... Do you even remember - for what autonomy did Stalin speak?

              Stalin's plan provided for the liquidation of national sovereign republics within the USSR and their transfer to the category of autonomies within the RSFSR. In contrast to the Leninist idea of union of independent states, Stalin proposed a national-state system that was as close as possible to the unitary one (at that time).
              And it is not a fact that these autonomies would not have been cut further. Even the liberal Mr. Dragon, the pomnitsa, liquidated part of the autonomies, combining them with the territories and regions.

              But Ilyich’s point of view won - and we got a powder keg in the form of a union of sovereign states:
              Article 70. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is a single union multinational state formed on the basis of the principle of socialist federalism as a result of the free self-determination of nations and the voluntary unification of equal Soviet socialist republics.

              Article 76. Union Republic - sovereign soviet socialist state, which merged with other Soviet republics into the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
              Outside the limits specified in Article 73 of the Constitution of the USSR, the Union Republic independently exercises state power on its territory.
              The Union Republic has its own Constitution, which corresponds to the Constitution of the USSR and takes into account the peculiarities of the republic.
              1. kotvov
                kotvov 26 January 2016 20: 44
                +1
                - and we got a powder keg in the form of a union of sovereign states: ,,
                Listen, let’s say they built a car, but thanks to successful care and driving, they torn it apart. Who is to blame: the driver or the manufacturer?
                1. Alexey RA
                  Alexey RA 27 January 2016 11: 17
                  +4
                  Quote: kotvov
                  - and we got a powder keg in the form of a union of sovereign states: ,,
                  Listen, let’s say they built a car, but thanks to successful care and driving, they torn it apart. Who is to blame: the driver or the manufacturer?

                  We did not build a car. A modular self-propelled design in which each module can and has the right to fall off at any time. Moreover, they built it, knowing in advance that they would have to go off-road, punching the path through the virgin lands.
                  To control such an aggregate and keep it intact, you need to be a super-driver. But the trouble is that they are very rare.
            4. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 26 January 2016 22: 33
              +3
              Quote: madjik
              and where is Lenin? The ideas of autonomy were developed by Stalin. Here, some allow you to call others lepers on your head. Do not touch Lenin.

              Dear, please specify, if you want, one nuance! Reread what happened then. Stalin really developed a plan for the autonomy of the republics ...BUT!!! As part of the RSFSR !!!Because the Georgian Stalin was called by Lenin a "Great Russian chauvinist".
              Stalin put forward the idea of ​​so-called autonomy, the essence of which was that all independent Soviet republics (and it was about Ukraine, Belarus and the Transcaucasian republics) are part of the RSFSR on the basis of autonomy, the experience of which was already created within the RSFSR. However, such a decision provoked a protest from the leadership of these republics, especially in Georgia and Ukraine.

              Realizing that such pressure on national republics could bury the idea of ​​uniting them, Lenin criticized the Stalin project and proposed the creation of a union of states on a federal basis by concluding treaties between sovereign republics and the formation of a number of common bodies of power and administration. He was also offered the name - Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
          2. WERSTA.
            WERSTA. 26 January 2016 18: 55
            +4
            At the moment we are "raking" the results of the activities of not Lenin, the results of the XX Congress, with preliminary prepared materials in the primary Komsomol and party organizations. It was then that the ideological communists were removed. Instead of them, those who later educated the "members of the Communist Party" were placed in leading positions. party ". Gorbachev, Yeltsin and, unfortunately, today's president is one of them. And I don't even want to talk about Khrushchev. Six who took revenge on the owner petty and with the destruction of the ideas born of the Revolution.
        3. mahor
          mahor 26 January 2016 15: 56
          +1
          Quote: iliitch
          Appreciated. Russia is the country of the Great Depardieu. To study, study and study, as Great Lenin bequeathed. I do not jerk, he was a person, like Stalin. There were people.



          It is necessary to quote the classics correctly: "Study, study and study military science in a real way!" drinks
        4. projdoha
          projdoha 27 January 2016 12: 59
          0
          By the way, it was Lenin who planted Stalin and other Bolsheviks to study Marx in order to understand how to properly build the economy after the revolution.
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    2. max702
      max702 26 January 2016 10: 45
      24
      The Ukrainians have a long-standing "relationship" with the Buryats .. lol
    3. sqzoom
      sqzoom 26 January 2016 20: 39
      -15 qualifying.
      You first put things in order in your country, and then climb into others. Russian world ...
  2. venaya
    venaya 26 January 2016 06: 00
    +4
    because the report will be read in the USA. And not only civilian "jackets", but also the command from the Pentagon

    Poroshenko has very few options, hence the escalation of hysteria through all channels in order to bargain for himself some concessions. I think so.
    1. igordok
      igordok 26 January 2016 08: 18
      36
      Quote: venaya
      hence hysteria on all channels

      This they still do not know about the preparation of the Buryat armored cavalry for the use of silent weapons.
      1. Nitarius
        Nitarius 26 January 2016 10: 18
        +1
        I agree .. only at the end of the Arrow .. you can grenades and Mines and drones into the sky! it's you in vain!
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 26 January 2016 14: 16
        +1
        Quote: igordok
        on the preparation of the Buryat armored cavalry for the use of silent weapons
        Modernize silent weapons; Now it will become high-precision.
  3. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 January 2016 06: 04
    30
    Even ate with Ukrainian senior officers. And he slept with them (.........) in some hotels.
    Then it seems to me that someone is not negotiating something laughing
    And most importantly, judging by what the American expert said or who he really is. Vasilieva herself acted as an expert-consultant. 100%
    1. domokl
      domokl 26 January 2016 07: 01
      13
      am Sexy maniac ... Hi San ... Well, you know how to see the background of events laughing
    2. askort154
      askort154 26 January 2016 08: 03
      12
      Alexander Romanov .... I even ate with the Ukrainian senior officers. And I slept with them (.........) in the same hotels.

      It seems that Filippok, a big lover of freebies, received all the pleasure of traveling, depending on his orientation, without leaving the hotel. And the finished article was delivered to him by the staff clerk in a deluxe room.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 January 2016 06: 09
    10
    "Considering the state of the army at the beginning of the war, the level of training of soldiers, the amount of equipment and its other achievements, this is a miracle. Your soldiers were able to stop Putin! Of course, he could attack with large forces, but still it is a miracle."


    Another nonsense next psycho. That’s all.
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 26 January 2016 07: 53
      11
      Quote: aszzz888

      Another nonsense next psycho. That’s all.

      The bottom line is that with the filing of such teachers like this, all this nonsense becomes the norm for the bulk of Ukrainians,
      This is the beginning of rewriting history, it seems to us stupid and ridiculous, for a normal person, such nonsense will cause a brain rupture, but these planned heroic deviations are not intended for us, but for the younger generation, of which 10 years later, Russophobes will grow, and we will get a new Poland-2 on the border.
      1. lex locis
        lex locis 26 January 2016 12: 05
        +3
        Quote: Sirocco
        but these planned heroic retreats are not intended for us, but for the younger generation, of which Russophobes will grow in 10 years, and we will get a new Poland-2 on the border.


        The standard technique for "Overton windows" ....
      2. Starik72
        Starik72 26 January 2016 14: 02
        +3
        Sirocco! I don’t agree with you that a normal person will have a brain torn from this nonsense, he’ll just laugh heartily. But fools will perceive this nonsense as the truth, which such American experts count on, because idiots and fools have no brains and explode there is nothing.
  5. Aleksander
    Aleksander 26 January 2016 06: 09
    +7
    Do I need to comment on the next American nonsense, is there not much honor to them? And their past and future "estimates" are predictable and known ....
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 26 January 2016 07: 49
      10
      It is necessary. You also need to understand where in Ukraine such a view of things. Here from such articles.
      Half the population think so. Indeed, they show it on TV.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 26 January 2016 09: 36
        13
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        It is necessary. You also need to understand where in Ukraine such a view of things. Here from such articles.
        Half the population think so. Indeed, they show it on TV.

        ++++++++ This is exactly how it is presented on TV, and 15-20 times a day. Apparently the "business trip" cover TV in the hotel had seen enough and issued .........
      2. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 26 January 2016 14: 41
        +1
        not half. of the living, at least 65% think so laughing
        although I want to cry from such statistics ...
  6. Riv
    Riv 26 January 2016 06: 11
    +4
    What other American ??? Typically hohlyatsky style. To write like this, fat must be eaten from childhood.
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 26 January 2016 06: 14
    +3
    "According to my calculations, the Russians were losing ten killed and wounded for each Ukrainian. I myself saw their bodies lying in several rows." I wonder if Philip confused the soldiers' uniforms? Or insignia? No, I didn't confuse ...


    smile What a clowning ... PHILIP is burning ... well, you can't smoke so much marijuana.
    1. Starik72
      Starik72 26 January 2016 14: 07
      +1
      Yes, Lyokha is not there something steeper than "Maryaivanna", most likely some kind of modern psychotropic.
  8. Victor jnnjdfy
    Victor jnnjdfy 26 January 2016 06: 16
    +3
    What "Poroshenko regime" are we talking about? The authors of the article seriously believe that Poroshenko and Seni-animals decide something on their own in / in Ukraine? What command these "pure-blooded ethnic Ukrainians" will be given from the US Embassy in the middle of the night (the time difference between Washington and Kiev), they will begin to carry out this ...
  9. DIMA45R
    DIMA45R 26 January 2016 06: 22
    +8
    But this was not written for us, but for those with whom he ate, drank and slept. Well, of course for the formation of public opinion of Western commoners. Then at least twist your finger at the temple, at least personally interview everyone ... Using your tongue to scratch, not toss the bags and not to wage war.
  10. ImPerts
    ImPerts 26 January 2016 06: 24
    +6
    I myself saw their bodies lying in several rows

    He did not see anything. This was told to him by the colonels in hotel rooms and even shown while they slept together love
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 26 January 2016 06: 26
    +7
    This interview for Radio Liberty was published quite recently, on January 22nd. But it seems to me that it is worth paying attention to.... This suggests that Nuland and Surkov did not agree on anything ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 26 January 2016 07: 14
      15
      Quote: parusnik
      ..This suggests that Nuland and Surkov did not agree on anything ...

      Well, it is very similar to the truth. That is why there was an accusation of Putin's corruption, from Adam Shubin, who oversees the issue of sanctions in the US Treasury. This means that Putin and Russia are very much in the way of the Americans, since they went on such dirty intrigues. These are materials from the same garbage dump. : interview for radio "Liberty" and a statement on the program "Panorama". Our "Liberal press" is already screaming in estaz. This suggests that nothing has been turned over to this American whore.
  12. SibRUS
    SibRUS 26 January 2016 06: 29
    +9

    There is nothing to add)))
    1. Avtopilot
      Avtopilot 26 January 2016 10: 31
      -17 qualifying.
      Quote: SibRUS

      There is nothing to add)))


      it is of course, but yesterday I found out that the sawn trees on the street. Institutskoy - fake ORT.
  13. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 26 January 2016 06: 33
    +8
    No matter how kakelam in the Donbass end. For some reason, Putin remembered that Donbass was handed over to Ukraine in vain ... Why.
    1. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 26 January 2016 09: 21
      +3
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      No matter how kakelam in the Donbass end. For some reason, Putin remembered that Donbass was handed over to Ukraine in vain ... Why.

      The "Darkest" darkens ... oh, it darkens ... like grit - a shadow on the fence leads))))) ..., but we, unlike them, catch the vector of his thoughts
      1. Avtopilot
        Avtopilot 26 January 2016 10: 23
        -42 qualifying.
        . For some reason, Putin remembered that Donbass was handed over to Ukraine in vain ... Why.

        Do not fantasize, Putin is afraid to sneeze so that sanctions are not imposed, the real ones, and as he said so a penny on a market day, only cheeks are inflated on TV.
        1. Vadim Zhivov
          Vadim Zhivov 26 January 2016 19: 16
          +7
          When he sneezes all your hohlopopiya fall apart ... The rest is obscene ....................
          1. Avtopilot
            Avtopilot 26 January 2016 21: 48
            -8
            a discount for gas, coal will ship or still priced something we are used to
            1. YGV-97219
              YGV-97219 27 January 2016 12: 15
              +1
              Oh! Do not exaggerate! And start to lose the habit! How is it in the song? "And outside the window is the month of May" .......... I hope you do not need to explain what I mean!
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              2. Avtopilot
                Avtopilot 27 January 2016 12: 49
                -4
                in May, coal and gas are not particularly needed, are you talking about this?)
                1. YGV-97219
                  YGV-97219 27 January 2016 14: 32
                  +2
                  I mean that in May Crimea will become completely non-volatile and all freebies not only for coal, gas and electricity will disappear! There will be nothing more to blackmail!
                  1. Avtopilot
                    Avtopilot 27 January 2016 14: 51
                    -4
                    let's wait in May and see, the Kremlin’s leadership of iron will (the boy said the boy did) has never been different.
                    1. complete zero
                      complete zero 27 January 2016 21: 58
                      +1
                      (honestly tried to work) -yes they lifted the whole Tyumen North (you must have a sensitive conscience to have something to say for them) normal hard workers
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            3. alexej123
              alexej123 27 January 2016 13: 59
              +2
              Yes Yes. That. that you are famous freeloaders - this is not to be taken from you. Have you honestly tried to work?
              1. Avtopilot
                Avtopilot 27 January 2016 14: 53
                -3
                and who ate our bacon during the USSR?
                1. complete zero
                  complete zero 27 January 2016 21: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: Avtopilot
                  and who ate our bacon during the USSR?

                  it's Greeks (I swear by mom) they are tsuki
  14. sl22277
    sl22277 26 January 2016 06: 35
    16
    I read it with interest. It is written with humor that what Ukraine really succeeded in was to turn into a zone of instability and military conflict, providing its territory for the realization of the geopolitical interests of the United States. In this respect, the country is truly unique. Without any external aggression, without declaring war on anyone, he destroys his own citizens with the use of artillery and armored vehicles. Cemeteries have sprung up all over the country. We see hundreds of dead Ukrainian soldiers, whose names the Ukrainian authorities shamefully hide, betraying the memory of the deceived people whom they sent to certain death. Indeed, this is a "victory" over their own people!
  15. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 26 January 2016 06: 36
    +6
    Let’s leave this nonsense of the blue expert (you see, he slept with senior officers) on his conscience, as they say; the clever one will not believe, well ..... the cancer will not understand.
  16. Jan2016
    Jan2016 26 January 2016 06: 44
    11
    What was it? Advocacy of unconventional relations with Ukrainian officers?
  17. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 26 January 2016 06: 48
    +3
    In the ruin, hallucinogens are added to the water, a total nonsense.
  18. V.ic
    V.ic 26 January 2016 06: 48
    13
    A characteristic source - "Radio Liberty". Free from honor, conscience, the mouthpiece of mattresses, the support and hope of internal enemies. "Blue water" on the air is the way they work. You just need to remove two letters "Blue water "(blу/ e / vota).
    1. Avtopilot
      Avtopilot 26 January 2016 10: 27
      -14 qualifying.
      on the topic of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict in the memoirs of a KGB general it was something like this: "If you carefully analyze the programs of Radio Liberty in Armenian and Azerbaijani languages ​​..."
  19. Gray 43
    Gray 43 26 January 2016 06: 51
    10
    On the title of the article I want to be outraged, How ?! Again???!!! And further on in the text everything is predictable, not without reason Poroshenko declared that the defeat in Debaltseve is the greatest ... victory of ukrovoens (cockroaches in his head at this phrase ejected the remnants of common sense)
  20. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 26 January 2016 06: 56
    +3
    It is very clear who the "interview" of the American "expert" is intended for ... It seems to me that the majority of the population (even without a military education!) In Russia and Ukraine perceives such nonsense as nonsense and nothing more ... Well, to form public opinion in the "near" Gay European Union, add fuel to the fire, it may well ...
  21. palm
    palm 26 January 2016 07: 07
    -38 qualifying.
    Quote: Sergey Vladimirovich
    You can retreat successfully!

    in 2WW history, almost all retreat operations are successful! and nothing! people hawala
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 26 January 2016 10: 06
      +2
      I don’t know about everyone, but the German retreat "Bufel" on the Rzhevsky bridgehead is still considered exemplary by them (and by all) and taught in military universities. Let me remind you that Stalin went to the front line only once and it was Rzhev ...
      1. UNFAMILIAR
        UNFAMILIAR 26 January 2016 23: 09
        +1
        Quote: marlin1203
        I don’t know about everyone, but the German retreat "Bufel" on the Rzhevsky bridgehead is still considered exemplary by them (and by all) and taught in military universities. Let me remind you that Stalin went to the front line only once and it was Rzhev ...

        Yes, only Hitler called Rzhev the gateway to Germany, and so it happened, and if you read their memoirs, then all the actions of the Wehrmacht and the Wafenn ss were successful, the last successful operation was "the mobile defense of the government quarter in Berlin", which allowed millions of civilian and future prisoners of war to leave into the American zone of occupation.
        1. complete zero
          complete zero 27 January 2016 21: 49
          0
          no need to drive to the Wehrmacht and especially to the wafen ss ... exemplary from a military point of view structures ... the more valuable the victory over them ...
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 26 January 2016 12: 20
      +4
      The retreat of the Red Army from the encircled Odessa is still a role model.
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 26 January 2016 14: 00
        +3
        Yes, there are successful retreats. But they are somehow not customary to pass off as victories.
      2. UNFAMILIAR
        UNFAMILIAR 26 January 2016 23: 18
        0
        Quote: revnagan
        The retreat of the Red Army from the encircled Odessa is still a role model.

        Evacuation, retreating there was already possible only within the city, but here it enters into competition with numerous British and German evacuations, and as Churchill said, "you don't win wars with evacuations."
  22. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 January 2016 07: 17
    +5
    Your fighters were able to stop Putin!

    This alone is enough to stop reading the opus of this American "expert" from "journalism". Touched that he even ate with senior officers and slept in the same hotel. Why didn't you eat in the trench with the Ukrainian "patriot"?
    1. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 26 January 2016 09: 26
      11
      stop Putin .... riding at the head of an armored-cavalry Buryat divers, riding not a bear ... oh yes and with a naked torso yet. In his hands is the spear of fate ... and in the eyes of the groans of tormented souls ... unborn Russian babies.
      That's something like that you have to compose .... then the burger People must. after all, this is the embodiment of the consciousness of the American layman in reality.
  23. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 26 January 2016 07: 22
    +3
    oh and nonsense))))) no words !!!!
  24. MarKon
    MarKon 26 January 2016 07: 29
    +2
    Article +, I smile straight in the morning
  25. Sergelis
    Sergelis 26 January 2016 07: 29
    -8
    Everything is correct, but why yernichat? In these five battles, many worthy people died. And in your statement, we went through a victorious march, and all Ukrainians fled.
  26. guznorodov
    guznorodov 26 January 2016 07: 31
    +3
    You want to "eat" and you will write something else.
  27. nivander
    nivander 26 January 2016 07: 32
    +3
    not a beer burner !!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 January 2016 11: 04
      +1
      In Kuyev not BOOV.
  28. Stinger
    Stinger 26 January 2016 07: 34
    +5
    Nice interview. Only he missed two points. I did not take into account Putin's naval underground pilots and the second, to the phrase "Your soldiers were able to stop Putin!" it should be added that they will not stop Obama, and let Putin sob from this reading.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 26 January 2016 08: 26
      +6
      Nice interview. To the phrase "Your soldiers were able to stop Putin!" it should be added that they will not stop Obama, and let Putin sob from this reading.

      Putin, then here, Superman!
      By all the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (the best as it turns out to be the army of Europe), one, barely, barely, could stop. Are strong.
      Summary. This article is a comic book. Only without pictures.
      1. UNFAMILIAR
        UNFAMILIAR 26 January 2016 23: 40
        0
        Quote: avva2012
        Nice interview. To the phrase "Your soldiers were able to stop Putin!" it should be added that they will not stop Obama, and let Putin sob from this reading.

        Putin, then here, Superman!
        By all the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (the best as it turns out to be the army of Europe), one, barely, barely, could stop. Are strong.
        Summary. This article is a comic book. Only without pictures.

        And if you are boring,
        Quote: avva2012
        "Your fighters were able to stop Putin!"

        There is a grain of truth, if the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the SBU continued to behave passively and remained neutral on the map of Europe, a new 20 million state with nuclear power in all seaports and main industrial production would appear, albeit not entirely recognized but friendly to Russia, reducing the independent to a variant of a large Belarus or, rather, Czechoslovakia (a federation of the west and center), and hundreds of Bandera with chains, bottles and shotguns could hardly stop the process. Of course, if you take the phrase "stop Putin" as stopping the desire of the Russian people for reunification.
  29. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 26 January 2016 07: 34
    +3
    18 drinking bouts along with Ukrainian officers at the forefront in Kiev taverns.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 26 January 2016 08: 34
      +1
      That's right.
      Those who got drunk shared their "memories" while sipping free whiskey
  30. Siberia M 54
    Siberia M 54 26 January 2016 07: 40
    +8
    It's ridiculous of course. But !!! This is believed in Geyrope and across the ocean in Matrasia. I just have no words, and those that are are obscene. Therefore, I will not voice them ...
  31. Reeds
    Reeds 26 January 2016 07: 43
    +2
    When I read this every time, I have a dumb question, whoever writes / says it himself understands the essence ???
    Complete nonsense, there is still no person on the other side of the DPR and LPR who would soberly assess the situation and stop this stupid massacre !!
  32. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 January 2016 07: 53
    +2
    Quote: guznorodov
    You want to "eat" and you will write something else.


    This is very accurate! I wrote to April 1, but I already had hotts yesterday.
  33. gla172
    gla172 26 January 2016 07: 55
    13
    So they’re afraid ,,, and let their nerves go on ..... and the nerve cells do not recover .... and we don’t give a damn about their fantastic propaganda from a high bell tower ....


    We will not give the "Old Alaska-Texas" motto ........ and we do not fight in hysterics ....
  34. Wise
    Wise 26 January 2016 07: 55
    +3
    It's only begining...
  35. pts-m
    pts-m 26 January 2016 08: 17
    +4
    "Victory reports" are intended for the FSA congress or for ordinary people in FSA? And to both, all these reports are on the drum, the main question is whether there will be a "return" and in what amounts. In the straps, like those of the draping Urinovites from the boilers of the DPR or bankers who settle on the accounts of the tops of the ruin leaders.
  36. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 26 January 2016 08: 36
    10
    The absence of Russian troops in Ukraine logically stems from the fact of existence Ukraine and of existence Russophobic fascist power.

    If there would be regular units in LDNR, and even with heavy weapons, then long ago adequate power would have been established in Ukraine, and all sorts of eggs would have already run away abroad.

    I think that Ukrainians, Poles and Balts actually understand that Russia is peaceful. If they were really afraid of aggression, they would have died out and, trembling finely, reached for a bow to Moscow.
  37. Zomanus
    Zomanus 26 January 2016 08: 55
    +5
    Well, if they see this, then what can I say?
    It was probably not fat that played its role,
    and watching Ukrainian TV channels.
    Sick people, take garbage from them ...
  38. Old Siberian
    Old Siberian 26 January 2016 09: 00
    +3
    To argue with this Philip Carber is not to respect yourself. As in childhood they said: "Whoever argues with a fool is not worth Mr.."
  39. Scud
    Scud 26 January 2016 09: 13
    +3
    On the line it is written among hahlov and americos to mow. And these scum-fake-girls still show themselves.
  40. tank64rus
    tank64rus 26 January 2016 09: 14
    +3
    Top officers gave him a smoke of dill. After two puffs, imagination broke out and things went.
  41. bionik
    bionik 26 January 2016 09: 22
    +2
    On the splash screen, a fighter callsign "Wakha" from the "Olkhon" subdivision ("Olkhon" himself is also no less interesting person).
  42. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 26 January 2016 09: 26
    +2
    The opus of this American figure, who is proud that he slept with the Ukrainian military, must be published in a medical journal in the psychiatry section.
  43. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 26 January 2016 09: 28
    +3
    I have one feeling that the West is extinct? there are only evil, stupid people and "colored" people who can "hawala" this nonsense. Somehow I even feel sorry for them, .. "like not idlers and could live .."
  44. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 26 January 2016 09: 39
    +5
    I’m wondering where are all these thousands of miles of dead Russian armored personnel carriers? It is clear that someone died, there are dozens, maybe even hundreds of volunteers. But thousand millenia? The whole country would be sobbing, such losses can not be hidden, our censorship is not so good and strong. And then, if the losses depicted by the American had begun when trying to take the same Mariupol, it seems to me that they would simply have slaughtered everything there with tank-guns-SZO, so that there was no one to resist. Ukrainians again betray our unwillingness to finish them off for their heroic exasperation ...
  45. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 January 2016 09: 45
    +4
    Another bullshit. In my opinion, the stripes got infected from dill. No matter how they began to dig the sea, there is nothing more to boast about.
  46. misterwulf
    misterwulf 26 January 2016 09: 50
    +5
    But what about the special forces from Ulan-Ude, toli in general - Ulan Bator? The topic is not disclosed!
    In general, as I see the "military expert", you immediately get ready to neigh. Real experts don't call themselves that. Usually, something like this: Colonel General of the General Staff, retired, or "in the past - deputy. Airborne division commander." Or something like that, like: "veteran of special forces" ...
    Who is the "expert"? I was then an expert in nuclear energy and transplantology.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 26 January 2016 11: 09
      +2
      Quote: misterwulf
      I am then an expert in nuclear energy and transplatology.


      Eka you old man skidded, this is the horizon, already enviable. It’s the same as crossing a hedgehog and a snake.
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 26 January 2016 14: 17
        0
        Get a barbed wire?
    2. aleksey980
      aleksey980 27 January 2016 14: 02
      0
      Quote: misterwulf
      In general, as I see the "military expert", you immediately get ready to neigh. Real experts don't call themselves that. Usually, something like this: Colonel General of the General Staff, retired, or "in the past - deputy. Airborne division commander." Or something like that, like: "veteran of special forces" ...
      Who is the "expert"? I was then an expert in nuclear energy and transplantology.

      Here it is well written about "experts" smile : http://u-96.livejournal.com/2507992.html
  47. salad
    salad 26 January 2016 10: 08
    +2
    And also there was a ROBOKOP ELECTRONIC in the boiler a bear with a balalaika and a time portal was opening wassat
  48. Vladislav 73
    Vladislav 73 26 January 2016 10: 22
    +3
    And where is the Altai armored police ?! belay Why did they offend people, did not mention them ?! belay Mess, Aaabidna, yes ... request Article plus! Laughed in the morning! .... lol laughing
  49. Belousov
    Belousov 26 January 2016 10: 25
    +2
    Well, all of our armored Buryat mounted militiamen died the death of the brave, oh, how to live on ...
  50. Baloo
    Baloo 26 January 2016 10: 41
    +7
    Russian airborne armored cavalry tank divisions in the Donbas is over! belay
    Do not wait. We still have underwater cavalrymen and underground divers. tongue The enemy will be defeated, the victory will be for the Donbass. laughing fellow
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 26 January 2016 11: 35
      +6
      Quote: Balu
      Russian airborne armored cavalry tank divisions in the Donbas is over! belay
      Do not wait. We still have underwater cavalrymen and underground divers. tongue The enemy will be defeated, the victory will be for the Donbass. laughing fellow

      And even the armored horses of the Buryat-Yakutian troops on unkillable MAMMTs and the fear of all the armies of the world the famous Russian STROYBAT were not introduced into the battle