Why is it funny when eagles scream? About plans to send American paratroopers to Iraq

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Why is it funny when eagles scream? About plans to send American paratroopers to Iraq


Today I called one of our readers. And the question asked was interesting. What kind of 91-I have appeared in the United States? And why is it elite? Well, and then, so to speak, by profile. I had to answer that no new divisions were formed in the USA. 91 is not present since 1945. And the error just crept into the message. Not 91-I, and 101-I airborne. This conversation turned into this article.

First, a little about the division itself. This is truly an elite, one of the most honored units of the American army. Suffice it to say that even some units and formations of the Russian army have a similar structure.

The division began its combat career in the distant 1942 year. It was sent to Britain and from there in 1944, she landed in Normandy. On the night of 5 on 6 June. In mid-July, the division was returned to Britain. About how the division fought in this period, they say losses. More than half of the personnel!

But in September of the same year the division was again in the thick of fighting. Takes part in the operation "Garden". It was this division that captured the strategic bridges then. And again, almost half of the soldiers and officers were missing.

In December 1944 in history the division was entered, probably the most glorious page. In the Ardennes, near the Belgian city of Bostol, the division was surrounded and held under continuous bombardment and shelling of the Germans. The American paratroopers did not retreat.

Then reorganization. Transfers to the reserve and back. And - Vietnam. This is where 101-I became what it is today. Airmobile division. Part of the US Army rapid reaction force. The name "airborne" remains as a tribute to the victories of the soldiers in the 2 World War II The division landed from helicopters.

Today, the 101 Division is the only unit in the US Army that can parachute from helicopters. The division's motto is "Rendezvous With Destiny" (Meeting with Destiny). The military slang name is Screaming Eagles. Accordingly, the 101 chevron division looks like the head of a bald eagle on a black field.

The division today is a combination of rapid response units. Hence it has an appropriate structure. 8 combat regiments of airborne infantry. A company of airborne paratroopers with experience in parachuting, including long-distance jumping from a great height. 3 artillery battalions. Air Defense Battalion. Engineering battalion. In addition, there is its own air wing, consisting of transport helicopters and fire support helicopters. As well as own aviation brigades.

Particular attention is paid to the intelligence unit. Truly trained professionals. Outside the composition of combat units. With their own helicopters and reporting directly to the division commander.

Now back to the beginning of the article. More precisely, to the statement of the general, the head of the Pentagon Ashton Carter. The American "commander" words acts in a style really great. He came (it must be understood - he arrived at the place where the division is stationed at Fort Campbell), he saw (in the sense of talking to the command), he won (again, in the sense of - the division would rush to Iraq to fight).

But why is there an airborne division? Something not really believe in the American soldiers who will be in the chain to go on the attack. As the heroine of our sensational film, “Not his education,” used to say ... Americans will advance only after many days of bombardment of enemy positions. To even insects alive was left. Then go ahead to victory!

Even more ridiculous is the statement of the head of the Pentagon on the goals and objectives of the division in Iraq.

"We are looking for new opportunities (to combat IS). But we are not going to replace local forces, the administration and the police. But to search for these new opportunities, we sent some special forces ... They find those (local) forces who want to fight with DAISH" .

So, the paratroopers will not have to perform police functions either. Then why? We are not going to fight. Substitute local police and administration too. We will fight the IG ... General, or maybe it's time you take off the fourth star and become a normal general? Not a commander.

It was not for nothing that I started an article with the heroic history of 101. On the heroic battles of 1944. Already very today's statement resembles the same 1944. When the Soviet Army already broke the back of a fascist beast. It was necessary to have time for the distribution of prizes. Then we did it! And now they are talking about the leading role in the victory over fascism.

Successes of the Syrian army in the fight against Daesh, the successes of the Russian VKS are such that Syria will soon be completely liberated. And the logic of further struggle suggests that the fighting will be transferred to neighboring states. Including Iraq. That he is a stronghold of DAISH in the region. Thus, the American division is already what is there, becomes one of the winners DAISH!

We have time for the distribution of prizes!

Honestly, I'm not sure at all about the implementation of this operation by the American army. Pleasure is expensive. Yes, and requires a lot of manpower and resources. The airborne division, even in name, must be deployed promptly. So, by airplanes. And the Americans, from which they have not been taken away, are able to count money. But even if instead of a military operation, the head of the Pentagon simply propiarized possible actions by the United States, they would still benefit.

"We wanted to help. But a certain leader refused our help. And if they did, they should receive dividends from your, or rather our (American) victory."

Here is a brief summary of all written.
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  1. +16
    27 January 2016 06: 40
    the American division, already there, is becoming one of the Daesh winners!

    I fully agree with the author. The main thing is to check in and stake out a place, and it is not necessary to fight. "Active" participation in the victory will be replicated by the Western media and will be included in the "Historical Path of the Division". And more was not required.
    1. +6
      27 January 2016 07: 27
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The main thing is to check in and stake out a place, and it is not necessary to fight. "Active" participation in the victory will be replicated by Western media and will be included in the "Historical Path of the Division". And more was not required.

      The same opinion. Personally, I would be very surprised if the Americans would actually participate in the ground operation before the fall (presidential election). Too much for a democratic (Obama) party, everything will be at stake. So my forecast is that there will be no American participation in the ground operation in the coming months.
      1. +1
        27 January 2016 07: 40
        101-I division is easy. and to fight without tank and other units is not a method in the conditions of Iraqi deserts
        1. +4
          27 January 2016 10: 17
          This division has about 700 units of vehicles and armored vehicles. But they use tanks not for breaking through the defense, as we have, but for anti-tank combat, and the support of the infantry when it is pressed. The bulk of the battles are carried by armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, which are well protected.
          1. -6
            27 January 2016 11: 26
            Speak correctly, colleague! During the first Storm in the Bradley desert, more tanks were threshed than the rest of the coalition’s armored vehicles.
            P.S. Only in the photo to the article are the British.
            1. +3
              27 January 2016 14: 26
              Cons for what? Or do not believe that Bradley can kill a tank? Maybe - he has ATGMs for such purposes.
              1. +4
                27 January 2016 15: 08
                Quote: Maksus
                Or do not believe that Bradley can kill a tank? Maybe - he has ATGM for such purposes

                Of course, ATGM - maybe. From an ambush, for bulky Bradley for any tank is a wonderful target.
                And about the minuses - I'm not a psychic, but I can assume that
                between "can kill ..." and "During the first Desert Storm, Bradley thrashed tanks ..." the same difference as between an anti-Russian troll and an ordinary VO reader.
                1. 0
                  27 January 2016 15: 14
                  Why all of a sudden? Look at the statistics, Abrams, Challengers and AMX-30 almost failed to shoot. If you do not take the armored vehicles destroyed from the air by planes and helicopters, as well as abandoned, namely destroyed using armored vehicles, we get that Bradley is the undisputed leader. Good luck, troll!

                  And in the photo - really British !!!
                  1. +3
                    27 January 2016 15: 17
                    Quote: Maksus
                    Good luck, troll!

                    Minus for lying and rudeness.
                    1. -4
                      27 January 2016 15: 20
                      fellow Less for obsession!
                    2. 0
                      28 January 2016 00: 38
                      grandson of Perun

                      Your opponent is right. According to statistics, Bradley stepped forward.

                      Cons can be set only for trolling and rudeness. This is moral.
                      1. +1
                        28 January 2016 11: 23
                        Quote: gladcu2
                        Your opponent is right. According to statistics, Bradley stepped forward.

                        Perhaps, although the statistics of our "partners" should always be treated with caution - too often "partners" were caught in a lie.
                        Once again, I’m not a psychic and I can’t speak for others (I didn’t put him 10 minuses alone). Therefore, I suppose that people did not like the attempt at covert manipulation.
                        The essence of the manipulation is that the statement is made that "state armored personnel carriers from armored vehicles have thrashed tanks most of all." Whose tanks? Of course, Soviet-Russian, who were in the Iraqi army. That is, a subtle stuffing is being done "Bradley's US armored personnel carriers are better than our tanks, how many have been thrashed out ..."
    2. +4
      27 January 2016 08: 00
      But why is there an airmobile division? Something is not really believed in the American soldiers who will go on the attack in a chain

      Or maybe everything is easier? Maybe from the advertised vaunted power of the USA army, only these, and even a few parts of the infantry, remained? They famously know how to deal with Arabs, especially after total bombing!
      Just who said that Arabs are the best warriors in the world? Remind me, what kind of historical battle did the Arabs win? What about the Americans?
      Therefore, let them abide in bald ignorance and confidence in their exclusivity.
      We would not flatter, but build capacity, and not only military! laughing
      1. +6
        27 January 2016 08: 37
        Quote: Skif83
        Remind some historical battle did the Arabs win?

        Well, actually it happened:
        4 July 1187 years Salah ad-Din defeated the crusaders at the battle of Hattin; Guy de Lusignan, King of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, Gerard de Ridfort, Grand Master of the Templar Order, and many other crusader leaders were captured. During this year, Salah al-Din managed to capture most of Palestine, Acre and, after a short siege, Jerusalem.
        1. +10
          27 January 2016 09: 50
          July 4, 1187 Salah ad-Din defeated the crusaders in battle
          ----------------------------------------------------------
          These were ... completely different Arabs, as well as 300 Spartans and modern Greeks, two big differences, and the "noble victorious" Romans are not at all modern Italians. Shredded the people: =)
        2. +1
          27 January 2016 11: 59
          By the way, many historians claim that Saladin or Salah ad-Din was a Kurd. As far as I know, the Kurds are far from Arabs.
          1. +2
            27 January 2016 16: 15
            Quote: alexej123
            By the way, many historians claim that Saladin or Salah ad-Din was a Kurd. As far as I know, the Kurds are far from Arabs.
            but he commanded the Arabs.
            1. 0
              27 January 2016 21: 46
              I agree. But there were not only Arabs there?
      2. +4
        27 January 2016 10: 12
        Perhaps even simpler:
        1. To indicate their presence (and, therefore, their share in victory - up to the management of the "settlement process").
        2. To occupy an "interesting" corner of the country, not allowing Assad's Syrians there, at the same time taking over a rather sickly oil-bearing region.
        3. Prevent the destruction of ISIS in Syria, create a base for its preservation and further development in "their" zone of occupation.
        4. Prevent the conflict from ending in BV, preserving it in a smoldering state, as a way to further unprotect the resources of the countries drawn into it and its dominion in the region.
        5. To provide support for the currently needed Erdogan regime with all the consequences, including the transfer of the mess to the Black Sea.
        6. To provoke Russia to introduce its own contingent and finally force the Russian bear to bog down all four ...
        And what about additional financial support for an extremely complex operation? Mmm, yummy!
        You can’t imagine how many juicy preferences you can get right now and lay for the future, substituting only a hundred fools! And it’s not a fact that they will be banged ...
    3. +3
      27 January 2016 14: 31
      HEY! Robyat!
      Has anyone of you noticed that in the title of the article "Why does it get funny when eagles scream? About the plans to send American paratroopers to Iraq", there is a photo NOT US SOLDIERS, BUT BRITISH SOLDIERS !? Specialists, motherfucker!
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2016-01/1453774337_beginn-irak-kriegs-jahr-ei
      n-us-panzerkommandant-menschen_855514391_800x600_1ec63012e9dbb4c3b9e6b88f7122ec7
      3.jpg
    4. +1
      27 January 2016 14: 46
      Bear caught a moose, current rip off the skin, as an eagle flies up with the words "uhh, finally caught." smile
      1. 0
        27 January 2016 21: 47
        Could - put a dozen pluses, Thank you.
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  2. +22
    27 January 2016 06: 47
    Bald Eagle - emblem of the 101st US Airborne Forces. In profile and full face smile
  3. +2
    27 January 2016 06: 52
    The emblem must be an ordinary louse, for the country is a parasite and has an army corresponding to its country.
    1. +5
      27 January 2016 07: 42
      "... the bald eagle also willingly selects caught prey from other feathered predators, as well as picks up dead fish that have surfaced or feeds on the carcasses of dead land animals ..." This is from Wikipedia
      1. 0
        27 January 2016 16: 09
        However, like rook, raven, raven and jackdaw.
  4. +14
    27 January 2016 07: 07
    Thin joke:
    the division was surrounded and survived under continuous bombardment and shelling of the Germans. The American paratroopers did not retreat.

    And where would she retreat if she was surrounded?
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      +2
      27 January 2016 07: 12
      And they didn’t offer to give up laughing
      1. +2
        27 January 2016 07: 50
        You can retreat into enemy captivity or from the oath of military oath
    2. +1
      27 January 2016 12: 33
      Quote: satris
      And where would she retreat if she was surrounded?


      Therefore, they didn’t back down, and there were no offers to give up, otherwise ... - hold me seven ...
  5. +3
    27 January 2016 07: 10
    Dear, I do not agree with the author that the division in the above privacy 101 is not suitable for Syria and Iraq, and the author has not forgotten that it was this division that fought with the troops of Sadam together with the Kurds and was not bad at war, further it is the airborne forces that can be quickly transferred and the most quickly organize under their cover a base and create already what is deemed necessary, from police operations to special operations against the Syrian army, so the choice of this division is correct and not random
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 07: 46
      The fact that they fought agree. Only now it is necessary to see the composition of forces then. The division is easy. It cannot fight on its own. Need support. And above all, tank and artillery units.
      And in Iraq today, the Americans do not have such support. I think that one or two battalion groups will be deployed. And their task will be simple. Take control of communication. That's all. Moreover, it is known that special units of the US MP corps have been in Iraq since November last year. and in a fairly serious composition. talking about about 150-250 troops.
      1. +2
        27 January 2016 08: 13
        Quote: domokl
        And above all, tank and artillery units.

        And the 320th regiment of the field regiment of field artillery removed from the division? He was in Afghanistan.
  6. 0
    27 January 2016 07: 13
    Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
    The emblem must be an ordinary louse, for the country is a parasite and has an army corresponding to its country.
    better from the nth place
  7. 0
    27 January 2016 07: 32
    I agree with the author, the situation really resembles 1944
  8. +1
    27 January 2016 08: 25
    Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
    The emblem must be an ordinary louse, for the country is a parasite and has an army corresponding to its country.

    Better tick.
  9. +1
    27 January 2016 08: 27
    In full view, it’s frightened, it is.
  10. +1
    27 January 2016 08: 30
    But didn’t the Germans wind up this division in the Ardennes as they wanted to ... until ours intervened and saved the asses of the Amers? belay
  11. +1
    27 January 2016 09: 00
    Whatever it was in their school history books, they will write that it was the USA that defeated ISIS and all terrorism with its democratic beginning alone. There will be nothing about Russia or as an insignificant hindrance in their difficult struggle. bombed the wrong type of dibila.
  12. 0
    27 January 2016 09: 02
    they will become one, they only when they heard that Russia will take part, already with spoons lined up in anticipation of the cake.
  13. +2
    27 January 2016 09: 47
    I agree with the "poacher" when the finish line loomed, the whole amerovskaya kolitsya will run away. They were the winners of guano for 1,5 years, and then Russia came and wants to take the victory from them. The winners are homosexual warriors, some have driven karyto, others cannot fly at night, others are bombing hospitals. It is necessary to show them the place on the distribution.
  14. +3
    27 January 2016 10: 12
    Bastards ...
  15. +1
    27 January 2016 10: 34
    May God grant that only the words of the Americans are limited. And then they will cling to the oil-bearing region under the guise of fighting against Ishil and how then to drive them out to the Syrians?
  16. -17
    27 January 2016 11: 12
    The author is deeply mistaken, probably did not teach history. Since 1941, the Americans have been at war with Japan in the Pacific Ocean. It was because of this that they did not open a second front. In 1944, the Americans landed in Normandy (France) on German pillboxes, machine-gun nests. By the way, the Soviet army also has a lot of shameful pages (they fought everywhere with meat). And thanks to Lend-Lease, the landing in Normandy, the war did not drag on (we had so many divisions armed with Shermans and other equipment). And bombing the enemy from the air is an integral part of a successful operation. Or the author wanted a "knightly fight" with terrorists. It is only ours who can fight with meat, and the Americans bomb from the air to reduce losses (Soviet losses in Afghanistan - 13000; American - 3000-3500. And all this thanks to drones and helicopters).
    1. -3
      27 January 2016 11: 26
      I will add that in parallel with the war with Japan, the Americans in 1942
      landed in northern Africa - Morocco,
      and in 1943 - in Italy (and Mussolini - the main ally of Germany - capitulated).
    2. +8
      27 January 2016 11: 48
      Quote: Lord Blacwood
      In 1944, Americans landed in Normandy (France) on German bunkers, machine-gun nests.

      The main losses in the landing zone of Omaha Beach are about 3000 thousand people. In the remaining zones, they landed with minimal losses.
      Quote: Lord Blacwood
      the Soviet army also has many shameful pages (they fought with meat everywhere). And thanks to Lend-Lease, the landings in Normandy, the war did not drag out. (We had so many divisions armed with Shermans and other equipment).

      I don’t even want to comment on this nonsense.
      Quote: Lord Blacwood
      American-3000-3500 people.

      In Afghanistan, it’s the coalition forces in general. The total irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of the coalition countries as of 01.11.2014 amounted to 4430 people.
      Losses of private military and security structures operating in the interests of the coalition amounted to 3012 people.
      Losses of the militarized units and police of Afghanistan acting in the interests of the coalition amounted to 4283 people.
      Total irretrievable losses - 11725 people.
      Quote: Lord Blacwood
      And all this thanks to drones and helicopters).

      This is a masterpiece statement. And we are old-fashioned, behind glass beads.
    3. +1
      27 January 2016 12: 03
      In Vietnam, how many Yankees have lost, eh? Somewhere I saw numbers - about 50 thousand. 200's only. Compare with Afghanistan. And compare the actions of SA and mattresses in Afghanistan.
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    5. 0
      27 January 2016 16: 20
      Quote: Lord Blacwood
      (Soviet losses in Afghanistan - 13000 people; American-3000-3500 people. And all this thanks to drones and helicopters).

      58 thousand US soldiers lost in the Vietnam War - this is official data
      1. 0
        27 January 2016 22: 31
        I agree that each army has its own shameful pages.
  17. +2
    27 January 2016 11: 23
    “I don’t really believe in American soldiers who will attack in a chain ...
    The Americans will go forward only after many days of bombing enemy positions "///

    No one likes sending coffins home, neither American generals nor Russian.
    It is professional and reasonable.
    And the Syrian army began to go on the attack only after intensive bombing of the Russian VKS.
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 16: 24
      And then the chain does not go, but only by operational groups.
    2. +1
      27 January 2016 16: 36
      Before that, for several years, the Syrian army went on the attack without any support - both artillery and aviation. Hence the losses are such. But they could, and survived, and now they will definitely live.
  18. +5
    27 January 2016 11: 54
    Quote: Lord Blacwood
    (Soviet losses in Afghanistan - 13000 people; American-3000-3500 people. And all this thanks to drones and helicopters).

    And tell me more about 3000-3500 star-striped corpses in 1979-1989, say, near Kandahar. And about drones in the same period ...
  19. +7
    27 January 2016 12: 22
    Quote: Lord Blacwood
    The author is deeply mistaken, probably did not teach history. Americans from 1941 of the year with the Pacific fought with Japan. It was because of this that they did not open a second front.

    Not certainly in that way. No one prevented the Japanese from starting a war with the USSR before the attack on Pearl Harbor. It was these two options that were considered. USSR or USA. Japan was not going to fight on two fronts. And the Japanese chose the enemy. So, not a fig the Americans did not "save" us from the Japs, as you want to show.
    Quote: Lord Blacwood
    . And thanks to Lend-Lease, landings in Normandy, the war did not drag out. (We had so many divisions armed with Shermans and other equipment).
    Ah waves that)))) Our armies were arming to the detriment of themselves. But Stalin didn’t know)))) By the way, what you are trying to suggest is contrary to the Law on Lend-Lease. Are we sure that the Americans violated their law and sent army property to the detriment of their army ????
    Quote: Lord Blacwood
    . (Soviet losses in Afghanistan - 13000 people; American-3000-3500 people. And all this thanks to drones and helicopters).
    And we take into account the scope, timing and objectives ??? Or just a country? Then let's compare the losses of Soviet troops in the Korean or Vietnam war with the losses of Americans there and conclude that we fought in 380-540 times better than s. In short, thanks for having fun with your comments))))))
  20. 0
    27 January 2016 12: 25
    The Japanese did not attack the USSR because they had learned the Khalkin Goal and Hassan
  21. +1
    27 January 2016 12: 31
    In the photo to the article are British soldiers. In hands clearly visible L85-e.
    As for the American paratroopers, what can they do, they will land, take part in the victory over Daesh, and will sound that the Western coalition is steering. So what?
    In any scenario, our VKS and SAA have the role of enemies of all progressive mankind!
  22. +2
    27 January 2016 12: 36
    There is a 82nd in the states, and there is a 101st. The main difference in the method of using the landing (82nd parachute method, 101st - by helicopter method). In the photo in the article the British are generally in their old deserted DPMe.
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 13: 59
      82-I is precisely the only airborne division in the US Army. 101 I'm Airmobile. because you are right. The method of landing VDD and AMD is different. VDD can land as AMD, but also by parachute. In 101, only two divisions can do this: an airborne company (that is, because they have their own helicopters for landing) and a reconnaissance unit (conditionally a company of rangers (I do not know the exact composition)
  23. 0
    27 January 2016 13: 55
    The 101st Airborne Forces has a considerable number of attack and multi-purpose helicopters. So, most likely, it will support Iraqis and Kurds with helicopters and can be an artifact.
  24. 0
    27 January 2016 14: 53
    Quote: Minstrel
    Quote: Skif83
    Remind some historical battle did the Arabs win?

    Well, actually it happened:
    4 July 1187 years Salah ad-Din defeated the crusaders at the battle of Hattin; Guy de Lusignan, King of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, Gerard de Ridfort, Grand Master of the Templar Order, and many other crusader leaders were captured. During this year, Salah al-Din managed to capture most of Palestine, Acre and, after a short siege, Jerusalem.

    And with us a page of beaten Europe will be written. Possess all the tolerasts.
  25. +1
    27 January 2016 15: 43
    Jimi Hendrix served in the 101st division, though later he was "stupid". smile
  26. 0
    27 January 2016 15: 50
    Jimi Hendrix served in 101 Division

    But this is interesting, given that Hendrix at one time got a sentence for theft! A criminal record and an elite division with a glorious history ?! I do not understand... request
    1. +1
      27 January 2016 16: 08
      Quote: Rokossovsky
      But this is interesting, given that Hendrix at one time got a sentence for theft! A criminal record and an elite division with a glorious history ?! I do not understand...

      What years are it? Vietnam is in full swing.
      By the way, they or others had, like hazing, with the word JAMP, recruits or lower ranks should jump up and count 501,502 ..., the bike probably.
  27. 0
    27 January 2016 16: 22
    Early ISIS to bury. The main air force strikes against the rebels and the Syrian army hits them. ISIS even Palmyra is still in the hands, I’m silent about Racca or Mosul, the 44th is still far
    1. 0
      27 January 2016 22: 09
      those guys are not fighting over the territory - it doesn’t matter where they are, just to be paid
  28. 0
    27 January 2016 18: 26
    In December 1944, probably the most glorious page was inscribed in the history of the division. In the Ardennes, near the Belgian city of Bostol, the division was surrounded and survived under continuous bombardment and shelling of the Germans. The American paratroopers did not retreat.


    The city is called Bastogne, not Bastol !!
  29. +1
    28 January 2016 03: 53
    And the Americans, why not take away from them, know how to count money.


    Well FIG know. Starting with a pen behind a green lam for space instead of a pencil, etc., it is not counted on the contrary. For prints ...
  30. 0
    28 January 2016 14: 30
    There is no doubt that the backbone of Germany was broken at Stalingrad and Kursk, but to say that the Allies got only "scattered demoralized Germans" (as the author of the article generally tries to say) is not correct ... It is not right to say that the "dude ROMMEL" (as nor as an ELITE COMMANDER) ... units of the Waffen SS were organized and efficient until the very last shot of the war (and, as a rule, they fought to the end - an example of this with Whitman with the company) ... so the Americans have decent experience
  31. 0
    28 January 2016 18: 41
    Quote: WUA 518
    Quote: Lord Blacwood
    In 1944, Americans landed in Normandy (France) on German bunkers, machine-gun nests.

    The main losses in the landing zone of Omaha Beach are about 3000 thousand people. In the remaining zones, they landed with minimal losses.
    Quote: Lord Blacwood
    the Soviet army also has many shameful pages (they fought with meat everywhere). And thanks to Lend-Lease, the landings in Normandy, the war did not drag out. (We had so many divisions armed with Shermans and other equipment).

    I don’t even want to comment on this nonsense.
    Quote: Lord Blacwood
    American-3000-3500 people.

    In Afghanistan, it’s the coalition forces in general. The total irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of the coalition countries as of 01.11.2014 amounted to 4430 people.
    Losses of private military and security structures operating in the interests of the coalition amounted to 3012 people.
    Losses of the militarized units and police of Afghanistan acting in the interests of the coalition amounted to 4283 people.
    Total irretrievable losses - 11725 people.
    Quote: Lord Blacwood
    And all this thanks to drones and helicopters).

    This is a masterpiece statement. And we are old-fashioned, behind glass beads.

    firstly, lend-lease is not nonsense, but REAL necessary help and not only "Cobras" and "Shermans" (which are not bad in themselves) but to a greater extent MATERIALS so necessary at that moment of the USSR (aluminum, tungsten, penicillin, stew, egg powder and high-octane gasoline), among other things, anti-aircraft artillery, Jeep Studers and tractors) among other things, you forget about the bombing of industrial and oil facilities (Ploieshta), which led by 1942 a motorized car in Germany to a shortage of fuel and fuels ... so that the help of the Americans was very much the same to a hundred ...