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Forbidden photos - North Korea, shot with a hidden camera

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These photographs were taken by photographer Eric Lafforgue during his last visit to a closed country. And the latter is not in the sense of the most recent, but in the sense that now the entrance to this country is closed for him forever. He took these pictures during excursions with state-approved guides who asked him to remove all the photos. But Eric Lafforu managed to save them and later put it on public display.


Photographer Eric Lafforg visited North Korea six times. On memory cards, he managed to take out of the country those of his photographs that should not have been in print.
When shooting, Laforfort sought to show that North Koreans are primarily unhappy people, and not those soulless robots that they appear in front photos.

Forbidden photos - North Korea, shot with a hidden camera


1. The North Korean army is considered one of the largest in the world, but in fact soldiers are more likely to take up hard work than weapon.



2. “The authorities hate when people take such photos.” Even when I explained to them that poverty exists everywhere, they still forbade me to take these pictures. ”



3. “In difficult times (and they are here all the time), children can be seen working in the fields,” explains Lafort. - I was denied entry after a trip in September 2012, when I published several photos on the Internet. North Koreans saw them and asked to remove them, deeming them offensive. I refused because I thought it unjust not to show the reality of their country. ”According to the photographer, local residents have a hard time outside of Pyongyang and major cities. “Life is cruel in many places in North Korea, far from Western standards,” says the photographer.

In a small fishing village he was accepted as an honored guest. In this settlement have never seen a mobile phone. Its inhabitants are busy all day fishing and growing algae. "Even with such a difficult life, they spoke to me with tears in their eyes that they worshiped their respected leaders ... even if they sometimes lack food."



4. The North Korean government prohibits photographing anyone suffering from malnutrition, like this man ...



5. ... or this boy.



6. “It is forbidden to photograph people who are poorly dressed. According to my guide, this man was not well dressed enough for me to photograph him. ”



7. “I saw these children gathering corn on the street next to Begaebong,” explains Lafort.



8. A woman stands in the center of a crowd of soldiers. Authorities are not allowed to take photos of the military.



9. North Korea does not like to show its army. “You can see it all the time there, but you can't take pictures of it.”



10. “Taking pictures in the demilitarized zone (between North and South Korea) is easy, but if you get too close to the soldiers, they will stop you.”



11. Photographing soldiers on holiday in North Korea is also prohibited.



12. "During a visit to the dolphinarium in Pyongyang, you can photograph animals, but not the military, which make up 99% of the audience."



13. The North Korean authorities hate the pictures in which their soldiers rest. "This picture probably contributed to the fact that I was expelled from the country," - says Lafort.



14. A man is washing in a river near Pyongyang. "In rural areas, this is quite common."



15. “This man used an old tire instead of a boat. In rural areas, people often fish in lakes - this is a good way to get fresh food where it is very rare. ”



16. “During a bus ride to Chongjin, a region suffering from hunger, my camera was confiscated. When I saw people on the streets, I understood why. ”



17. “This man slept by the sea in Chilbo. My guide asked me to delete this photo because I was afraid that people would think that this man was dead. No, he was alive.



18. “In Caesón, next to the demilitarized zone, tourists live in a hotel complex built from old houses. Guides say the outside is all the same. No, it is not. ”



19. “These are common photos in the West. Signatures usually say that the North Koreans have to eat grass. Guides lose their temper if you take such a photo. ”



20. “People go to the village for community service. The authorities used to consider these images to be positive, but now they understand that we consider them evidence of forced labor. ”



21. “Passing by these buildings, the guides asked me not to shoot with a flash. The official reason is “not to scare people.”



22. “North Koreans are a bit paranoid. The guides asked me to delete this photo, because they were sure that I would later say that these people were homeless, but they were just resting. ”



23. Authorities believe that the photos in which smiling people stand under the portraits of the country's leaders are offensive. “Never take pictures when you see people doing stupid things in front of Kim’s portraits,” says Laforfort.



24. “Although there are more and more cars in Pyongyang, the common people are not used to them yet. Children continue to play in the middle of the road, as if not noticing cars passing by. ”



25. “In two supermarkets in Pyongyang, you will find all kinds of food and drinks. They even have Evian water, but only elite is packed up here. ”



26. “We were at the Pyongyang Art Gallery when the next outage occurred. When this happens, they say the Americans are to blame. ”



27. “Probably the most ridiculous ban of all. When I took this picture, everyone started shouting at me. Since the picture was unfinished, I could not take pictures of it. ”



28. “There should be laughter and fun in the Sondovon children's camp, but many children come here from the villages. They are scared, for example, by escalators that they have never seen before. ”



29. “The authorities had problems with this photo for two reasons: the teenager wears a cap in a strange way (according to my guide), and the military is visible in the background.”



30. “Pyongyang’s metro is the deepest in the world, because it also serves as a bomb shelter. I was asked to delete this photo, because there is a tunnel on it ”.



31. “Clothing is very important in North Korea. When I asked to photograph these students, the girl insisted that the guy straightened his shirt. ”



32. “When you visit families, guides love it when you take photos that show children with computers. But when they see that computers are not even turned on, they ask you to delete the picture! ”



33. “There are a lot of tired people on the roadside, because many have to spend hours riding a bicycle. Taking pictures of tired people is naturally forbidden. ”



34. Although the authorities covered the black market, the “gray market”, to which they turn a blind eye, allows some to scrape together for a living.



35. "It is prohibited to photograph the sign of the World Food Program through the window of a house in the village."



36. “A rare example of an unruly child in North Korea. The bus drove along the small roads of Samyon in the north when this boy ran out onto the road. ”



37. “The line is a national sport for North Koreans.” In this photo, people are waiting for their turn to catch the bus.



38. “Pyongyang is a showcase for North Korea, so the appearance of the buildings is carefully monitored. But it is worth looking inside, and all the secret becomes clear. "



39. At the festival in honor of Kim Jong-il, thousands of North Koreans stand in line for various monuments.



40. Visit the rural house. Houses and villagers for such surveys are carefully selected by the government. But sometimes some detail, for example, a bath as a reservoir for water, shows that life here is rather difficult.



41. There is almost no public transport for intercity traffic. Citizens must receive permission to move from one place to another. In this photo you can see the soldiers voting on the highway.



42. Poverty is forbidden to show, but the display of wealth is also prohibited. This car Laforg photographed on Sunday in one of the parks of Pyongyang. The owners of "Mercedes" arranged a barbecue.



43. Photos of soldiers on vacation are also prohibited.



44. It is absolutely forbidden to photograph the statue of Kim Il Sung from the back. This is considered very rude.
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  1. Odysseus
    Odysseus 28 January 2016 06: 21
    105
    Very nice. But it would be nice if gr. Lafforgue would now go somewhere to Camden (Philadelphia) and show everyone the "Western standards of living." The problem, however, is that he visited the DPRK for Western propaganda purposes 6 times, but a walk in the evening Kemdem, with a high probability, will be his first and last in his life.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 28 January 2016 07: 19
      10
      Quote: Odyssey
      if gr. Lafforgue would now go somewhere to Camden (Philadelphia) and show everyone the "Western standards of living."

      Would he also be banned from shooting?
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 January 2016 07: 51
        55
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Would he also be banned from shooting?

        Is it really like shooting with a hidden camera?
        Quite staged pictures, equipped with humiliating comments ..
        When this happens, they say that the Americans are to blame

        We do not recognize ourselves in this?
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 28 January 2016 09: 35
          37
          We do not recognize ourselves in this?
          -----------------------
          Withdrew from the language: =) I wanted to add, why take such a risk, I would go to our outback. Oh, such a local flavor would have seen enough, mom do not worry.
          And so, everything is clean, the kids are funny and washed. They play, then they don’t starve. And the children in the field. Ha! With a bivalve on the collective farm, 1-2 hectares of beets were given for each family. the whole family waved hoes in the heat for several hours with the children. Found something to surprise. Will be stronger!
          1. Vik66
            Vik66 28 January 2016 14: 38
            16
            Personally, in his school years, he weeded so much of this beet, Mama Do not Cry!
            And nitsche, a man grew ... wink
          2. svd-xnumx
            svd-xnumx 28 January 2016 19: 50
            11
            And so, everything is clean, the kids are funny and washed. They play, then they don’t starve. And the children in the field. Ha! With a bivalve on the collective farm, 1-2 hectares of beets were given for each family. the whole family waved hoes in the heat for several hours with the children. Found something to surprise. Will be stronger!
            They removed them from the language, the one born in the USSR will not see anything strange in these photos, and those who are now living in the "outback" of almost all countries of the world too.
            1. Pomeranian
              Pomeranian 29 January 2016 21: 51
              +4
              Quote: svd-xnumx
              Taken from the tongue, born in the USSR will not see anything strange in these photos

              The true truth. Absolutely nothing strange. USSR 1980. No wonder, this is for a stupid Westerner - wildness. And we lived in this and felt comfortable almost everything. except for sexual perverts)))
              1. valerei
                valerei 20 February 2016 17: 55
                +1
                And I always hated the coercion at demonstrations and queues everywhere, even at the cemetery and serfdom on the authorities, when they drove me to agricultural work. And I have never seen collective farmers at my work. And how much of a mess I've seen at these serf works !! Thick volumes of novels can be written about endless stupidity, stupidity, slovenliness, theft and, whoo-ism. So, "almost everyone felt comfortable", but not all.
        2. Vend
          Vend 28 January 2016 09: 47
          25
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Quote: Mera Joota
          Would he also be banned from shooting?

          Is it really like shooting with a hidden camera?
          Quite staged pictures, equipped with humiliating comments ..
          When this happens, they say that the Americans are to blame

          We do not recognize ourselves in this?

          Yes, such pictures can be taken in any country in the world. And in the USA too. It is just life. Not everyone can be equally happy, rich and healthy.
          1. aleks 62 next
            aleks 62 next 28 January 2016 11: 29
            34
            .... Can not all be equally happy, rich and healthy ....

            .... Unfortunately, such a life (rather nondescript and difficult) was arranged by the author’s relatives .... The country is small with little potential and has been living for 50 years in complete isolation .... And it lives quite well ..... And if there would be no sanctions - I would live even better ..... The people are very disciplined and hardworking .... I would be interested to see a photo from South Korea that would live 50 years in complete isolation .... I think the pictures would not be very different from these .... And the author’s comments are some kind of nasty .... hi
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 28 January 2016 17: 36
              13
              Damn, it's Klondike! A whole country that needs everything we produce. Food, appliances, electricity, fuel, cars, etc. There is only one question - what can be obtained from them. In theory, they have good ore reserves - there our company produces gold there. Plus transit to and from South Korea can be arranged. And cheap labor is also a topic. It is necessary for our business to tie this market on itself while sanctions are applied against them. I don’t think so. that the North Koreans are worse than the South ones, which means that with the right influence and control it is possible to solve their problems and raise their Far Eastern industry. In general, the bottom of the gold - the main thing is to correctly understand how to arrange it all. And it’s time for Koreans to learn the Russian language - it’s useful. hi
              1. Mr. Pip
                Mr. Pip 28 January 2016 18: 10
                +2
                Quote: g1v2
                In general, the bottom of the gold - the main thing is to correctly understand how to arrange it all.

                Apparently - nothing request
                I don’t think that you are the smartest - apparently what they “can take” from them they do not give - think for yourself.
                Cheap labor? To residents S.K. massively saw how they live in capitalist Russia?
                Or our business in S.K.? To make local officials more dependent on our business than on the will of Great Kim?
                And then, is it profitable for our business to invest dollars in S.K.'s economy initially? There are much more attractive countries for doing business, including our Native! fellow
                Therefore, under their current power, their "economy" is apparently not even interesting to us, although they have no one closer to us and did not have request
                1. g1v2
                  g1v2 28 January 2016 19: 04
                  +3
                  Under capitalism, markets decide everything. Two-thirds of our exports are mineral products, not because we do not produce anything else, but because nobody needs our products - the markets are occupied by Southeast Asia and the EU. They produce everything for everyone. And here is a populated country on our borders. This is the development potential for our mechanical engineering, cx and so on.
                  For Kim, the situation is deadlock now. He does not want to go to the Chinese, because he is afraid that North Korea will simply become a colony of the PRC or even dissolve in China. South Korea is the worst enemy that can easily arrange northern concentration camps and mass purges with the physical destruction of a large part of the population. And there remains only the neighbor in the north, who is not going to North Korea to dissolve in itself or destroy and who according to FIG, what is happening inside the DPRK. That is why we can influence them and do business, making money on this and raising our economy further. hi
                  1. Mr. Pip
                    Mr. Pip 28 January 2016 20: 00
                    -2
                    Quote: g1v2
                    Under capitalism, markets decide everything.

                    Not all, but a lot. But here (as elsewhere in a complex world) everything is decided by the nuances: for example, solvency and market capacity.
                    You write:
                    Quote: g1v2
                    Markets are occupied by Southeast Asia and the EU. They produce everything for everyone.

                    And then write:
                    Quote: g1v2
                    And here is a populated country on our borders.

                    But the "audience" of southeastern corporations is hundreds of millions and even billions of annual buyers - that is why their products are so cheap and at the same time modern.
                    And the official population of S.K. 25 million people but in reality the total is less, and this is less than the daily population of Moscow.
                    And again, the issue of the initial solvency of the market and its "profitability" - low profitability - duties and kickbacks, with solvency even worse - there is no currency, changing "equipment-goods" for raw materials is also not profitable, if you count globally in the chain - it is cheaper at home get, for example request
                    Therefore, it is not just that our business is not there, it is neither profitable for our business, nor for the local leadership there, where "at least something" can be taken from them.
                    Quote: g1v2
                    South Korea is the worst enemy that can easily arrange northern concentration camps and mass purges with the physical destruction of a large part of the population.

                    South Korea at any moment can wipe North from the face of the earth, and Japan and the United States will help her in this - but it is ECONOMICALLY NOT profitable for her, this will multiply her economy by zero for a couple of years.
                    And for what? For the sake of a territory with a lack of infrastructure and resources, or ideologically and culturally alien (still more than 50 years of isolation) economically inefficient by modern standards?
                    That is, even with a positive outcome of the war, the territory of the North Caucasus is a huge minus to the South Caucasus budget for raising the economy of the "neighbor" (no one will destroy anyone, we live at the wrong time) - therefore, tales about the "desire for reunification" are set aside, South Korea has no desire to "reunite the neighbor" - even if he wants to, they will think a couple of times before request
                    1. g1v2
                      g1v2 28 January 2016 22: 40
                      +1
                      The corporations of the EU and Southeast Asia cannot openly supply something to the DPRK, since then they will be under sanctions. And the main import-consuming market is the United States and it is the main market for all export-oriented countries. 25 MILLION THIS IS A COMPLETELY DECENT MARKET FOR THE INDUSTRY AND AGR 145-148 MILLION COUNTRIES. Moreover, absolutely unhealed market. That from which our consumers turn their nose, even not rich, will go there in years. In addition to minerals, there is also a good mechanical engineering. For example, most fully developed states do not have their own nuclear industry, and the DPRK has a very strong indicator. South Korea does not, but northern has. You can find what you can take your own.
                      As for the fact that the South Caucasus can at any time wipe the DPRK off the face of the earth - this is an ordinary South Korean campaign. Type American - we type can defeat the Russian Federation, but we feel sorry for the environment. CANNOT AND IN THIS ALL CASE. The nuclear weapons of their masters are still effectively guarding. Had Gaddafi or Hussein had it - they would have ruled so far and there would have been not hundreds of thousands of blind men, neither refugees, nor IG TAM. It could have arisen in Afghanistan from the Taliban, but neither in Libya nor in Iraq would it be.
                      In general, I repeat - an undeveloped more than 20 million market is VERY COOL for the capitalist system. Western companies and Chinese give loans to poor countries for purchases not out of spiritual kindness, but because it raises their own economy. But the very process of making a profit from the Koreans and redirecting it to our industrial capital is the technical details that specialists can decide if they take it. hi
                      1. Mr. Pip
                        Mr. Pip 28 January 2016 23: 13
                        0
                        Quote: g1v2
                        The corporations of the EU and Southeast Asia cannot openly supply something to the DPRK, since then they will be under sanctions.

                        And again, the MAIN question is why there are sanctions against the "communist" Korea, but not against the "communist" China.
                        Quote: g1v2
                        25 MILLION THIS IS A COMPLETELY DECENT MARKET FOR THE INDUSTRY AND AGR 145-148 MILLION COUNTRIES. Moreover, absolutely unhealed market.

                        Quote: g1v2
                        In addition to minerals, there is also a good mechanical engineering

                        You do not hear me. There are no such concepts as "not zazhralis" "not bad" "decent" is the concept of PROFITABILITY.
                        I explain figuratively:
                        You can invest 1 million for example in CX.
                        In Russia, you will get 1 thousand per year from 250 million.
                        In Cambodia, from 1 million get 2 million per year.
                        In S.K. from 1 million get 100 thousand per year.
                        And that is why it is absolutely all the same that the IC market is not "snickering", but 25 million people. it's not bad" hi
                        Moreover, the local "equipment" was originally all ours and so Soviet - an awl for soap does not change it in the first place. And secondly, why the business needs "equipment" is not clear, it is interested in currency, and not in kind exchange for equipment hi
                        Quote: g1v2
                        But the very process of making a profit from the Koreans and redirecting it to our industrial capital is the technical details that specialists can decide if they take it.

                        I still think that the "specialists" have already calculated everything for a long time - especially since almost all of our "medium and higher" business is somehow connected with foreign countries. request
                    2. KaPToC
                      KaPToC 28 January 2016 23: 48
                      +3
                      Quote: Mr. PIP
                      South Korea at any moment can wipe the North from the face of the earth, and Japan and the United States will help her in this

                      That is, the fact that North Korea has already defeated South does not bother you? Let me remind you that only direct US intervention saved the southerners.
                      1. Mr. Pip
                        Mr. Pip 29 January 2016 14: 37
                        -1
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        That is, the fact that North Korea has already defeated South does not bother you? Let me remind you that only direct US intervention saved the southerners.

                        1. "Won" is somehow self-confidently said, the border is still there.
                        2. On the side of the SK was the USSR, on the side of the South Caucasus, UN troops. But yes, the USSR-USA fought in the air.
                        3. 60 years have passed, the armies of the SK and SK are no longer the same, and the USSR is no longer there. Live today hi
                  2. 2news
                    2news 28 January 2016 20: 02
                    -1
                    Quote: g1v2
                    And here is a populated country on our borders. This is the development potential for our mechanical engineering, cx and so on.

                    Those. do you think that it is so poor and wretched not because there is no money, but because such a "style"? Or don't you think? And if you don’t think, then what the hell is the “development potential” based on idleness?
                    Such "markets" in the world as uncut dogs. And without any sanctions. No one needs them and no one fights for them. Only the USSR fed such parasites until he himself was stuck out of hunger. Therefore, they tolerated him, now the bourgeoisie themselves have to feed this idleness. So that they do not die out of hunger.
        3. heal
          heal 28 January 2016 09: 47
          -1
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          We do not recognize ourselves in this?

          The Russian rulers are also guilty of all sanctions, but Obama.
        4. KaPToC
          KaPToC 28 January 2016 11: 00
          13
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          We do not recognize ourselves in this?

          US military and economic pressure is the main cause of poverty in the North. Korea, this is not a reason for idiotic ridicule.
        5. psiho117
          psiho117 28 January 2016 15: 41
          +8
          this report with the same photos and stupid comments on them was already on the site that year. Has anyone ever wanted to dust off this libel again?
        6. rubidiy
          rubidiy 28 January 2016 20: 06
          +3
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          We do not recognize ourselves in this?

          Before you write, take a look at the history of North Korea. It’s interesting how a person whose head is not covered with a Western bribe can deny that this state of affairs is the work of Americans.
          It is impossible to compare North Korea with Russia in principle, because peoples are different, history is different, regimes are different. There is nothing in common, but this, apparently, does not prevent especially intelligent people from asking: "We don’t recognize ourselves?" fool
          1. Mr. Pip
            Mr. Pip 28 January 2016 21: 22
            -1
            Quote: rubidiy
            It is impossible to compare North Korea with Russia in principle

            Here, thank God, I completely agree!
            Quote: rubidiy
            It’s interesting how a person whose head is not covered with a Western bribe can deny that this state of affairs is the work of Americans.

            And elementary, damn it, so I completely disagree! You write:
            Quote: rubidiy
            take a look at the history of North Korea

            So "take an interest" - that the "pro-American" government was originally elected by voting with observers from the UN, and the "pro-Soviet" was appointed from Moscow and it was it that started the war.
            And you can also think why this "pro-American" Korea is richer not only in North Korea, but also in almost any independent state in the world.
            And if you think well at all, you’ll think why the USSR ALSO, following the USA, “did not love” its own creation fellow
        7. AID.S
          AID.S 31 January 2016 01: 00
          0
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Is it really like shooting with a hidden camera?

          Under almost all the pictures, the author writes that he was asked to delete the photo. I so assume that this was one of the conditions of the visit. This situation once again shows the representative of the West as he is, for the sake of achieving his own goal, giving any promises, deceiving them, and not considering himself responsible for deception. This is their natural, normal state and corresponds to the moral standards of the West.
      2. common man
        common man 28 January 2016 08: 10
        13
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Would he also be banned from shooting?


        And why our and not our "democratic", all sorts of famous "stars" do not like paparazzi so much and forbid them to take pictures of themselves? It's not about the fact of the shooting, but about its comments and interpretation. If the states photographed only in a negative light, with appropriate comments, then do not hesitate - they would be banned and not choked.
        1. Darkmor
          Darkmor 28 January 2016 09: 49
          26
          Let's digress from preconceptions and stereotypes.

          What do we see in the photo?
          That North Korea has little transport, a lot of military and low living standards?
          Seriously? Is this a discovery for someone?
          Well, they have paranoia and silly, from our point of view, prohibitions. And how is this fundamentally different from the religious prohibitions of Muslim countries, for example?
          What them, for this is now bombed by democracy?
        2. No login
          No login 28 January 2016 10: 07
          -21 qualifying.
          http://www.tema.ru/travel/north-korea-1/
          Link to the photo essay is not American production. 2006 onwards It seems there is a second part.
          Many write comments, knowing about the DPRK only that it is the DPRK. Apparently the stars earn epaulettes.
          But I know that the kym chen is the most disgusting person that they wanted to invite to 9 in May, and thereby defile, stain the holiday.
          1. aleks 62 next
            aleks 62 next 28 January 2016 11: 33
            +5
            ..... Many write comments, knowing about the DPRK only that it is the DPRK ....

            .... Not only .... Go to the websites of North Korea and with the help of your brain analyze what you saw and read .... You will be pleasantly surprised .... Yes, it’s hard for them ... But not everything is so bad ... It reminds the USSR in the 80s .... And only .... hi
            1. Kuts
              Kuts 28 January 2016 12: 13
              +1
              Not the 80s, but earlier times. Years 30, 40.
              1. Alexandr-NVR
                Alexandr-NVR 28 January 2016 13: 44
                0
                I agree. Gle something like that.
            2. No login
              No login 29 January 2016 17: 17
              +1
              Do you want to be written on the DPRK website about poverty and hunger? Do not make laugh. Attract brains. Even in the official Russian media they talk about hunger in the DPRK, about repressions.

              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82_%
              D0%B2_%D0%9A%D0%9D%D0%94%D0%A0
              Alex, I want you to reason (connect the brain). Explain to me what is good in North Korea. You, of course, gave me a minus. Well, justify your position. Follow the link that I threw to you, draw the sites of North Korea and explain. Otherwise, I will consider that your message is simply a mistake with the desire to offend.
          2. Lekov L
            Lekov L 28 January 2016 15: 33
            +1
            But I know that the kym chen is the most disgusting person that they wanted to invite to 9 in May, and thereby defile, stain the holiday.

            I also know a few disgusting personalities who shouldn’t have been invited either.
            Yes, they did not come - the air was cleaner ..
            And who do you think? wink
      3. AlexW
        AlexW 28 January 2016 08: 25
        33
        It’s strange somehow ... Photography was forbidden, the photo was brought ... The camera was confiscated, and the photo was uploaded. Backyards of some kind, poorly dressed, tired people ... yes, such photos can be taken anywhere. In Europe, America in the same South Korea. Yes, poor countries, sanctions-blockade for decades. Poverty is always ashamed everywhere.
        1. Aleksander
          Aleksander 28 January 2016 09: 22
          20
          Quote: AlexW
          It’s strange somehow ... Photography was forbidden, the photo was brought ... The camera was confiscated, and the photo was uploaded. Backyards of some kind, poorly dressed, tired people ... yes, such photos can be taken anywhere. In Europe, America in the same South Korea. Yes, poor countries, sanctions-blockade for decades. Poverty is always ashamed everywhere.


          Such poverty is not directly visible, unless the line to trolleybuses is amazing. There are no tattered rags, there are roads, there is transport, there is a dolphinarium, the army is dressed normally. Poverty, and mental abilities, is visible, rather, with the commentator, the offset of his comments? Let him go to Africa, where millions die without water and food and without clothes and take a look.
          I do not like North Korea, absolutely, but the author’s position is dishonorable ....
          1. QWERTY
            QWERTY 28 January 2016 10: 01
            +7
            In St. Petersburg and Moscow, during rush hours, there are also queues at stops, of course, smaller in size, but there is. This means that people live poorly and starve there))))
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      5. Pig
        Pig 28 January 2016 12: 08
        +1
        "Would he be banned from filming too?"
        so it’s forbidden that from non-wine ones in general the photos are then made by propaganda cliches ...
        the ban will reach Camden ...
      6. Lekov L
        Lekov L 28 January 2016 15: 29
        0
        No he would have been fired, as a non-compliant publication in which he works.
      7. Vladimir 23rus
        Vladimir 23rus 28 January 2016 17: 33
        0
        Would he also be banned from shooting?
        Most likely they took the camera and stripped it to cowards. laughing
      8. sergo42
        sergo42 28 January 2016 22: 04
        0
        In the best case, they would have robbed, but just a jug would have pierced
        As of 2010, the population of the city was 77 344 people. The population of the city has been steadily declining since 1990.
        About half of the inhabitants are black, and about half are people of Hispanic descent.
        Two out of five residents are below the national poverty line.
        Camden now ranks number one in violent crime per capita among cities with more than 50 inhabitants. Camden had the highest crime rate in the United States in 000, with 2008 violent crimes per 2333 people, while the national average was 100 per 000 inhabitants.
    2. Maksus
      Maksus 28 January 2016 07: 55
      37
      Such photos can be made in Moscow. Come to Red Square and take a picture of a Mercedes with a flashing light, and make a signature like this: "In Russia, only an official can afford to drive a car, everyone else can walk."
      And then take off the fighter on the KMB during housekeeping in the substitution - and we can say that in the Russian army even everyone lacks belts and camouflage.
      1. Rostovchanin
        Rostovchanin 28 January 2016 09: 52
        19
        express my thoughts comrade. I also thought that it was not much different from my "castle". In our outback, you’ll see something else. You will not believe the toilets on the street and you have to go there in the cold. Uzhos is a savage, a backward country. And they collect water in the baths when there are interruptions with it and our soldiers are also working. Conclusion: the photographer was sent to give a negative assessment. Even if there is nothing in the photo that would expose the poor life of Koreans, he adds his comments how all the poor and hungry there are. He portrayed a hungry kid. Yes, we have 80% of these guys. Or he's used to obese American kids raised on burgers and colas. Here they are handsome, they eat at McDonald's. objectivity 0 - order, in general, like all the politics of the West. The same comments were in doc. films about the USSR (I saw several of these on the BBC, shot in the mid-90s). Why did he not go to Detroit in 2010 and shoot the material, but there was something to show ...
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 28 January 2016 11: 03
          +3
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          You will not believe the toilets on the street and you have to go there in the cold.

          It will be healthier after such toilets.
    3. bandabas
      bandabas 28 January 2016 07: 55
      +2
      Well, he might not have lost his life, but he would not have taken pictures with this camera.
    4. Hon
      Hon 28 January 2016 10: 22
      0
      Quote: Odyssey
      but a walk through the evening Camdem

      Have you been to Camden?
    5. opus
      opus 28 January 2016 19: 14
      +2
      Quote: Odyssey
      would gr. Lafforgue would now go somewhere to Camden (Philadelphia) and show everyone the "Western standards of living."

      What’s wrong with that?





      not well, of course:



      1. opus
        opus 28 January 2016 19: 18
        -2
        For comparison:
        Kokhma - ghopa of the world in Russian


        -----------------------------
        And it’s not about a city, a concrete one, but about a COUNTRY / regime.



        Quote: Odyssey
        from a walk through the evening Camdem, with a high probability, will be for him the first and last in life.

        Camden, New Jersey, used to be a shipyard city where more than 36 workers built large warships ....
        But those days are gone and today Camden is simply empty and dying.
        Camden is considered the most dangerous city in the United States.

        In 2009, Camden had the highest crime rate in the country - 2333 serious crimes per 100 people, while the national average is 455 serious crimes per 100. The economical situation of the city is not very good - 000% of the population lives below the poverty line. The city occupies the highest places in all categories of serious crimes - murders, violence, robberies, thefts, attacks and car thefts.
        Everything was decent:

        Do not vandalte the bridge, otherwise we will fine you, put you in prison, and then fine you again.


        Kokhma: "Food. Tobacco. 24 hours. Cheap." I must say that in small towns, shops that work around the clock, at night, as a rule, trade through a small window, even if the store itself is a large self-service supermarket. This is done for security reasons.
  2. Avenich
    Avenich 28 January 2016 06: 46
    17
    27. “Probably the most ridiculous ban of all. When I took this picture, everyone started shouting at me. Since the picture was unfinished, I could not take pictures of it. ”
    As far as I remember, in other countries of developed democracy, it’s impossible to photograph the unfinished picture, but even to see it. Or it would be up to the point ... otherwise gnawed corpses of dogs, you know, no, everywhere there is order and cleanliness.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 28 January 2016 07: 24
      +2
      Quote: Avenich
      As far as I remember, in other countries of developed democracy, it’s impossible to photograph the unfinished picture, but even to see


      Stephen Wiltshire does not know that a photographer was hiding behind him, ready to violate the most brutal capitalist legislation! The lawlessness of the black population in the UK on the face!
  3. Pig
    Pig 28 January 2016 07: 16
    14
    and you can also draw Old from South Korean sources!
    "today Minister Sun-Hun-Chai was shot from the MLRS" ...
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 28 January 2016 08: 20
      11
      Quote: Pig
      "today Minister Sun-Hun-Chai was shot from the MLRS" ...

      Press secretary MO Vyn-Su-Khim denies this .. laughing
      1. the villain
        the villain 28 January 2016 17: 55
        +2
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        Press secretary MO Vyn-Su-Khim denies this ..

        And the creature Vyn-Sam-Pei actively supports him in this laughing
  4. Yoshig
    Yoshig 28 January 2016 07: 20
    +5
    Mr. Luffford and in Russia can be a lot of surprises. Type, Wellcome)))
  5. kvs207
    kvs207 28 January 2016 07: 20
    +5
    You can’t take pictures, but people still took pictures, probably crying that he was forbidden to enter the DPRK. And the captions for the photo, you can come up with what you want.
    1. homedition
      homedition 28 January 2016 13: 37
      +2
      There was an unexplained topic in which place he stuck a flash drive from his camera to take him across the border! wink
  6. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 28 January 2016 07: 26
    13
    You never know where anyone sleeps! When a person sleeps, he is most defenseless. If they sleep everywhere, then they’re not afraid that they will be robbed. Everywhere is clean and tidy. Although he did not photograph any janitors.
    1. Sargord A.
      Sargord A. 28 January 2016 09: 44
      +4
      Indeed, a person wanted to sleep on the street in casual clothes, this is not because the devil still knows how much to the house, but because he can.
  7. Alex_59
    Alex_59 28 January 2016 07: 26
    +8
    Quote: Avenich
    Probably the most ridiculous ban of all. When I took this shot, everyone started yelling at me. Since the picture was unfinished, I could not photograph it

    In a sense, the logic of the Koreans is clear. In the west, they cling to every little thing to show how terrible everything is in Korea. Obviously, some time ago one of the western journalists published pictures of unfinished street murals with captions like "in Korea, people don't even have enough strength to finish the picture, they are so hungry." The Koreans, of course, are also scumbags, but obviously in this way they are trying to protect themselves from the distortions of Western magazines. Some scoundrels scoff at their own people, others make a show out of this and make money on distorting facts.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 28 January 2016 07: 45
      -7
      Quote: Alex_59
      In the West, they cling to any trifle to show how in Korea everything is terrible.

      The West absolutely does not care about the miserable existence of Koreans, there are so many reasons to laugh at Kimami that these photos do not affect in any way. Koreans are remembered only when the next Kim begins to frighten with the atomic bomb, he is forced to do this because everybody regularly forgets about him ...
      Recently, the world was worried about the fate of Korean homosexuals whom they photographed from the territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan



      After these photos, you understand that these "comrades" ska are everywhere ...
      1. Kuts
        Kuts 28 January 2016 12: 23
        +1
        .... and the fate of Korean homosexuals whom they sfotat from the territory of Kazakhstan ....

        Are they homosexuals? I don’t see this from the photo. Although on this blurry photo you will not see anything.
      2. AlexW
        AlexW 29 January 2016 15: 30
        +1
        Maybe it was "ripped" from practicing the elements of hand-to-hand combat :)) And if you pull a photo from the struggle of the classics, then there is a continuous Kama Sutra :)
  8. Ivan Tartugai
    Ivan Tartugai 28 January 2016 07: 27
    16
    Well done North Koreans.
    Little country. 25 million people, a tiny territory with scarce natural resources, resources, small farmland. There is not even a close comparison with the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan. They are in a long-term political and economic blockade. Experiencing tremendous ideological, informational pressure from outside. And they are engaged in nuclear energy, make high-tech weapons, build rockets, provide themselves with food, consumer goods, equipment, transport, and life expectancy is higher than world.
    They live, of course, not richly, they don’t drive on landcruisers, but it’s quite self-sufficient.
    Probably they have less drugs, fewer alcoholics, and lower crime, and the global financial crisis does not affect them as much as we do.
    And no one bends before anyone.
    1. Professor
      Professor 28 January 2016 08: 02
      -3
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      Well done North Koreans.

      Well done. The weakest to get over there?





      PS
      North Korea at night. For those who do not understand: this is a black hole between South Korea and China.

      PPP
      Life expectancy in North Korea is 70.11 years, 156th place in the world, between Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan.
      1. Ivan Tartugai
        Ivan Tartugai 28 January 2016 10: 06
        +9
        Well done. The weakest to get over there?

        Needed where was born.
        Born in Korea, live in Korea, work for Korea. Of course, if you were invited as a highly qualified specialist, an engineer, doctor, or musician, then it’s another matter. But they go to wash toilets, but in Paris or London after the French or after the British. For some, it's romance. As young people say "cool". The choice is yours.
        There are also amateurs in foreign countries to search for freebies and get across countries.
        Do well in your home, but go into a stranger in the hope of a clean and tidy thing. In a strange house, in a foreign country, you will always be a stranger.
        Life expectancy in North Korea is 70.11 years, 156th place in the world, between Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan.

        In both the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan, they officially began to live for 70 years only from 2012 or 2013, and before that they lived less. But this is the official statistical data, but the real ones are unknown.
      2. KaPToC
        KaPToC 28 January 2016 11: 10
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        North Korea at night. For those who do not understand: this is a black hole between South Korea and China.

        What kind of foolish photojump? It is easy to believe that it is so dark in North Korea, but do you seriously want to convince us that in South Korea it is light at night like in the afternoon?
      3. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 28 January 2016 11: 38
        +5
        ..... this is a black hole between South Korea and China ....

        ... Save electricity .... A black hole in 2/3 of China and the whole of Mongolia did not notice ???? ... laughing
      4. silver_roman
        silver_roman 28 January 2016 16: 32
        +1
        I read somewhere that life on earth is not visible to the naked eye, i.e. all the pictures where city lights are visible were made specifically using light-sensitive filters. Interesting, right?
        and in terms of development, unfortunately we have to admit that South Korea is far ahead of North.
        In general, this is a great tragedy of one people.
        When I think about Koreans, I understand that they are trying to do the same with us!
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 28 January 2016 23: 58
          +1
          Quote: silver_roman
          In general, this is a great tragedy of one people.

          Exactly, the United States blame for the fact that the two Koreas are still separated.
          1. 2news
            2news 29 January 2016 00: 05
            -1
            Quote: KaPToC
            and the US's fault is that the two Koreas are still separated.

            And then. After all, how could it be "beautiful" - hungry Koreans could be 2 times more.
      5. Pomeranian
        Pomeranian 29 January 2016 22: 01
        0
        So, the main trouble of the country is the lack of energy resources, there are only one rivers suitable for hydroelectric power stations, a tidal was built, but it works poorly. Nuclear plants will be launched soon and it will be better. and they don’t spend on light advertising.
    2. atalef
      atalef 28 January 2016 08: 08
      -3
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      Well done North Koreans

      Especially the 6 photo,. girl in different color sandals
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      Little country. 25 million people, a tiny territory, with scarce natural resources, resources, small farmland

      Come on you.
      Grandmas on the 4th largest army in the world. on Yao - there is. feed Kim - the same is on every corner where he pissed. install stella.
      In total there is enough. there are quite a few states that have an order of magnitude smaller total and do not keep their population at the level of poor slaves.
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      Are in a long-term political and economic blockade

      Well, to the political one to them. but about the economic please in more detail.
      Does he trade freely with the Russian Federation and China? Is there a common border?
      So what is the blockade?
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      And they are engaged in nuclear energy,

      Energy? They joked something.
      You do not mix nuclear weapons and energy
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      make high-tech weapons, build rockets, provide themselves with food

      about food in more detail
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      consumer goods, machinery, transport

      well yes . I see. Ask Romanov. he was there. will tell
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      and life expectancy above world.

      Are you all right?
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      Probably they have less drugs

      good , in S., marijuana is sold on a cigarette level and is not prohibited.
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      the global financial crisis does not affect them as much as we do.

      Of course, when there’s not a damn thing. and does not work. More precisely, it works. if the UN does not deliver the next batch of humanitarian aid.

      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      And no one bends before anyone.

      why bend. when and so on all fours.
      1. Alex
        Alex 28 January 2016 11: 41
        +8
        Quote: atalef
        Especially the 6 photo,. girl in different color sandals

        We had one original on the course, walked in socks of different colors. My grandson, when he dresses, can still dress him up wrongly.

        And yesterday I saw the picture: the wife of the grandson was feeding, Antokha dangled, ran up, stumbled, fell to his knees, and his mouth was near the spoon. If at this moment this "photojournalist" took a picture, even the New York Times would have paid a tidy sum for it. And the signature: "The starving children of Belarus are begging for food."
      2. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 28 January 2016 11: 41
        +4
        .... Grandmas for the 4th largest army in the world. on Yao - there is ....

        ... But not everyone is given 2 lard a year by "senior comrades" ..... Yes, and nuclear weapons are not "given" .... Just do not need fairy tales that your country itself DEVELOPED and PRODUCES nuclear weapons ... The navel would be untied ... As the people say ... And the North Koreans need to do it all with their hard-earned money ... laughing
      3. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 28 January 2016 21: 52
        +3
        Atalef! USA is the poorest country in the world. Can you imagine, the representative of the State Department came for a briefing in ONE boot !!!!! fellow (this is for you girl in different sandals)
    3. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 28 January 2016 09: 50
      +1
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      make high-tech weapons
      - eg?
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      And no one bends before anyone.
      - but they’re blackmailing me - like don’t give me food, we’ll make another atomic bomb ...
    4. Reinhard
      Reinhard 28 January 2016 11: 39
      10
      In the photo, people sleep peacefully on the street. So they are not afraid! wink And you try to sleep somewhere with us. laughing
    5. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 January 2016 11: 40
      12
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      They live, of course, not richly, they don’t drive on landcruisers, but it’s quite self-sufficient.
      Probably they have less drugs, fewer alcoholics, and lower crime, and the global financial crisis does not affect them as much as we do.

      The usual custom-made article of the so-called "democrats" who love to fantasize and, more simply, lie about others, snatching out the moments of people's lives they need and writing under them lies paid for by them.
      And of course, in the forefront of the denunchers are our Israeli Jews who cannot forgive the DPRK for its independent policy and the US counteraction to Israel and other distributors of terrorism in the world.
      But if in Israel, for example, "dig" we will take away the same something smile


      Study: 36% of children in Israel are forced to work
      Poverty in Israel is much deeper and more severe than the official reports of the Statistical Bureau and the National Insurance Institute (Bituach Leumi) present. Organizations involved in helping the poor directly on the ground make this clear.
      According to a report by one of such organizations, the Latet (“Writing”) association, there are 2.546 million poor people in Israel who lack food essential for life, which makes up almost a third (31.6%) of the population. Of these, 932 thousand children. From the report it also follows that every fourth child whose family is assisted by the Latet Association goes hungry to sleep. 36% of these children are forced to work to help their families.
      Over the past year, the number of children who had to be sent to boarding schools due to the inability of their parents to support them increased by 45%.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 January 2016 13: 00
        +8
        Quote: quilted jacket
        But if in Israel, for example, "dig"

        As the photo did not provide an inscription - in the foreground - atalef, in the background - professor .. lol
        1. atalef
          atalef 28 January 2016 13: 04
          +6
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Quote: quilted jacket
          But if in Israel, for example, "dig"

          As the photo did not provide an inscription - in the foreground - atalef, in the background - professor .. lol

          And what? poured professor. As on avatrake.
          But somehow I’m not very thin.
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 28 January 2016 13: 19
            0
            Quote: atalef
            But I’m not so good,

            are your tattoos? laughing
            1. atalef
              atalef 28 January 2016 13: 22
              0
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              Quote: atalef
              But I’m not so good,

              are your tattoos? laughing

              that's what is not - that is not.
              never understood the desire to overstep and make up the skin.
    6. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 January 2016 17: 03
      -3
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      Well done North Koreans.

      I suppose you decided to move there for permanent residence? So many accolades to idiocy is nonsense. Not one of you has been there, but everyone sees poverty and says that they live well there.
      People, I'm sorry. Are you sheep? How do you differ from those who now write comments on the censor. You are exactly the same as them.
      You can fuck it.
      1. Mr. Pip
        Mr. Pip 28 January 2016 18: 15
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        How do you differ from those who now write comments on the censor. You are exactly the same as them.

        Logics:
        In the Russian Federation, meat and cars have become more expensive, it has become more difficult for people to take loans for "plasma and Egypt", and instead of sausages for 200 we now take sausages for 150 - Everything is bad in Russia, but Putin (or Medvedev) is to blame
        In S.K. according to the "official Pyongyang" no one else is dying of hunger, as before - S.K. well done - in S.K. everything is fine, and Obama is to blame for everything.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You can fuck it.

        Really request
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 28 January 2016 20: 38
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You can fuck it.

        Even if in the DPRK all of a sudden everyone will suddenly become, for example, zombies, our "Red Old Believers" will still admire this country, you shouldn't even argue with them.
  9. sa-ag
    sa-ag 28 January 2016 07: 27
    19
    dudes go fishing on automobile cylinders, I saw this as much as I like, but that doesn’t mean that I was in North Korea :-)
    1. Fidel
      Fidel 28 January 2016 09: 51
      14
      When I was a child tore grass for rabbits, I could also see a "creative" comment under the photo to get hold of))
  10. Artemis
    Artemis 28 January 2016 07: 28
    11
    Photo 15.

    As a child, the boys and I also went fishing and swimming, not forgetting to take a tire from the Tatra with us. And so what? winked
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 28 January 2016 07: 39
      -6
      Quote: Artemis
      As a child, the boys and I also went fishing and swimming, not forgetting to take a tire from the Tatra with us. And so what?

      Never mind. This is what the author of the picture wanted to convey.
  11. sohosha
    sohosha 28 January 2016 07: 53
    +7
    When the "complete Pe" happens in the world, the DPRK will be an island of stability and security.
  12. kardan
    kardan 28 January 2016 08: 30
    13
    The photographs are old, they have been roaming the network for a long time and were clearly not taken "with a hidden camera." In general, everything is in the spirit of "look at this bloody dictatorship" - they urgently need democracy. They only modestly keep silent about the fact that the country is under sanctions (of all sorts), there are many questions about the disputed islands, NATO exercises are often held near the border (unambiguously hinting - today exercises, and tomorrow there may be an invasion), etc.
  13. EvilLion
    EvilLion 28 January 2016 08: 31
    +6
    Why, 40 years under the Japanese, then the war, when the level of poverty and illiteracy all over Korea ended was terrifying even by Soviet standards, although still relatively young people remembered the years before industrialization. Then isolation from the whole world except the USSR and China, which had no opportunity to feed everyone or integrate into a single economic space. China still has half of the population at that level. The USSR no longer exists, and the DPRK is still under sanctions and in isolation, it survives as best it can, but it is not those who isolate it from the world economy that you are to blame. There, of course, there are enough of their own "socialist feudal lords", but nevertheless it is strange to pretend that the West has nothing to do with it.
  14. lilian
    lilian 28 January 2016 08: 36
    +5
    North Korea produces several tens of thousands of cars a year.
    This is a fact.

    As for living conditions, there are such conflicting views that one cannot understand. Somewhere I read the opinion of a Russian who visited the country, he claimed that there was food in the shops, but foreigners forbid it to buy it so that they would not go around the North Koreans themselves.
    And there are fairly modern plants in Korea. And it exports the machines.
    And how to understand from the pictures a person is starving or not.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 28 January 2016 09: 02
      10
      = lilian "And there are quite modern factories in Korea. And he exports machine tools."
      Soviet-made CNC machines that we once supplied them with this underdeveloped state supplies to such a developed country as Russia.)))
      "The DPRK has been producing its own CNC machines since 1982. [21]
      According to Mikhail Delyagin, the Russian Federation imports from the DPRK machine tools based on models produced in the USSR and Russia two decades ago [22]. "From wiki.)))
      It is understood that the DPRK is not ideal. But such pictures can be thrown about the states.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 28 January 2016 22: 34
        0
        Quote: Nagaibak
        According to Mikhail Delyagin, the Russian Federation imports from the DPRK machines based on models produced in the USSR and Russia two decades ago [22].

        This says that both in the DPRK and in Russia there is still a great technological lag, we are still working on machines using technologies of the late 70s. beginning of the 80s.
    2. MMX
      MMX 28 January 2016 11: 07
      +3
      Quote: lilian
      North Korea produces several tens of thousands of cars a year.
      This is a fact.

      As for living conditions, there are such conflicting views that one cannot understand. Somewhere I read the opinion of a Russian who visited the country, he claimed that there was food in the shops, but foreigners forbid it to buy it so that they would not go around the North Koreans themselves.
      And there are fairly modern plants in Korea. And it exports the machines.
      And how to understand from the pictures a person is starving or not.


      DPRK has developed entrepreneurship (small and medium, if measured by our patterns). Therefore, it is full of all kinds of shops, establishments (the usual East Asian trend). By the way, the Serevokorean metro can be seen periodically in TV reports (although I rarely watch it, I saw footage) and the tunnel was shown, and trains, and no one forbade anything.
  15. bionik
    bionik 28 January 2016 08: 52
    14
    ..... "Is there really no mobile communication in North Korea? No. The country has a state corporation that is a cellular operator - Korelink. The domestic smartphones Ponguong and Arrirang are especially popular among local residents. Androyda. There are also Chinese smartphones of the Lenovo, Huawei, Alcatel brands on free sale. At the moment, the mobile operator Korelink serves eight million subscribers. Too modest numbers? Not at all. Firstly: more than 20 million people Secondly, the development of mobile communications in the country began only in 2011.Link: annotar.livejournal.com/101072.html? Thread = 53456
  16. Boris55
    Boris55 28 January 2016 08: 57
    +4

    But the water meter is not necessary.
    1. common man
      common man 28 January 2016 09: 32
      +5
      Quote: Boris55
      But the water meter is not necessary.

      And in general, why do you need water supplies if you have your own well in the house? And this is a pump with a well, and not a tap from the water supply.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 28 January 2016 11: 17
        +3
        Quote: man in the street
        And in general, why do you need water supplies if you have your own well in the house?

        Watering from a well is undesirable, it is necessary that the water stands and takes on the street temperature.
        In my garden the same quality only with email. pump and around the fifty-liter barrels, it looks very racy.
        But this does not mean that I do not have a central water supply.
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 28 January 2016 10: 04
      +9
      This is a well. It’s not rational to pump the bucket every time. Therefore, they pumped into the bath and dragged for household needs. Have you forgotten the columns on the streets in our settlements? They carry water in cars, in cans. So these advanced .. they have a pump in the hut.))) And not on the street. NOT, well, of course we are more advanced. Meanwhile, such water supply is still in use, especially in the outback.
      1. Alex
        Alex 28 January 2016 11: 49
        +7
        Quote: Nagaibak
        Have you forgotten the columns on the streets in our settlements?

        On our street, from 28 yards, the water supply was only connected to 17, and then the last 5 only this year (young people took up their parents' homes). A centralized sewage system is not and never will be. By the way, the light also periodically turns off (whether America is to blame - I have no idea, but someone is definitely responsible for this) Let me remind you: the 3 is the millennium in the yard and it seems like Europe. So there are enough problems everywhere, and there is no shortage of those who want to speculate on them either.
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 28 January 2016 15: 20
        0
        Yeah, we, too, are recruiting from such water. There is too much iron in the well, so you have to carry it from the city to drink, and you can recruit it in street columns. They are in any private sector. And not only, just down the street from the technical school where I work, a few dozen steps from the red line in the city center - there is also such a thing.
  17. Korsar4
    Korsar4 28 January 2016 09: 04
    0
    The world, of course, is much larger and more interesting than the West. But, since the bulk in North Korea would not want to live.
  18. Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 28 January 2016 09: 07
    +9
    Or so))) you can literally fill up the mass of pictures. So, what is North Korea there?))) Poor people in many places live, especially if you look well. You can provide the photo with the inscription "pedophile sticks to the child."))) Although it is most likely his father hugs him.))) The cottage trailer certainly looks better than the Korean ones.)))
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 28 January 2016 11: 44
      +8
      I don’t understand at all what some comrades want to say about North Korea, especially from Israel.
      Open http://www.archives.gov/research/catalog/ and look for photos of the Navajo Indians in the United States, and it is the richest, most advanced country in the democratic world.
      The one that teaches everything how to live. Some CITIZENS who live worse than in With Korea.
      With Korea, the country is far from ideal, but it is a well-established mechanism, as it used to be in Libya, Iraq. Now no one lists children tortured and killed in Libya or starving to death in this country, because now there is democracy! And this can not be a priori ........................
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 28 January 2016 12: 17
        +3
        Quote: APASUS
        I don’t understand at all what some comrades want to say about North Korea, especially from Israel.

        Citizens from Israel are not interested in the poor and poor from the US in Europe and even more so from Israel to write about them "not with their hands" because they are not paid for this, but to pour "a lot of mud" on the DPRK Syria Iran and even more so on Russia this is their "favorite " business lol
  19. xoma58
    xoma58 28 January 2016 09: 14
    -5
    This is our future with the existing government.
    1. yehat
      yehat 28 January 2016 20: 58
      0
      rather, the present
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 28 January 2016 21: 06
        0
        Quote: yehat
        rather, the present

        You are just out of luck.
  20. Free wind
    Free wind 28 January 2016 09: 20
    +5
    Yes, bodybuilders there are not enough of course wink . Women's dresses are beautiful, and women are pretty. Recently I came across Korean workers, they work quite a lot with us, absolutely legal, and so they are paid 1000 rubles a month, one thousand rubles !!!!!! With this money, he must eat cigarettes to buy, etc. The rest of the money goes to the company that sells them, Korean society. 12 people worked, thin as death. they ate wheat, bought 3 of them in the fold of a bag and ate, they really bought bread, but it was discounted. Once I saw a Korean, he goes with a piece of bread, his eyes are in a pile, he looks at a piece of bread, he doesn’t notice anything, drooling is already dripping on his chest, he looked at the bread with something sprinkled. I asked the superintendent what it was, it turned out that he had sprinkled bread with sugar for a good job. Their Korean bosses came from the company on ...... Gelenvagen, to be honest, Afigel from these communists, two low-fat guys got out both helmets pulled on a white, nahua? The object is a one-story house. They dug up these poor fellows and for about an hour one told them something, the second wrote down something in a notebook, just like before the son. After that, I saw this one with bread. whom the angry saw, often got together with each other, of all one of them could hardly understand Russian, he had the main thing for them, he could hardly speak. The foreman gave the task by drawing pictures and drawings.
    1. rustyle_nvrsk
      rustyle_nvrsk 28 January 2016 10: 57
      -5
      This is called "communism".)
      1. AlexW
        AlexW 29 January 2016 15: 53
        0
        You can call it anything you like, it’s important that it’s essentially. For 70 years we have been building socialism-communism, but after all, neither one nor the other was close. Typical, classical state capitalism. In North Korea, feudalism is even worse under the guise of pseudo-communist ideology.
        1. 2news
          2news 29 January 2016 16: 33
          0
          Quote: AlexW
          Typical, classic state capitalism.

          Ek, you have enough. State capitalism in science is called fascism. Or, so as not to strain easily excitable scoops, Bonapartism.
          Of course, in the USSR there was no smell of any fascism-Bonapartism in the USSR. Because such a society can develop only on the basis of the capitalist OEF. In the USSR, the OEF has at all times been more backward, feudal. With rigid centralization and absolutization (in the end weaker). Therefore, there was pseudo-religious (with the pseudo-religion of Marxism-Leninism) feudalism (called socialism), and not state capitalism at all.
          Quote: AlexW
          In North Korea, worse is feudalism under the guise of pseudo-communist ideology.

          All in. Korea is exactly the same thing that would happen in the USSR, if not for 22.06.41/XNUMX/XNUMX. Because of this fact (and the Germans), history turned out and the Communists unexpectedly temporarily became allies (let's call it that, softly) of the Anglo-Saxons. And what would be without this, it is easy and simple to see in Sev. Korea.
          1. AlexW
            AlexW 29 January 2016 22: 31
            0
            State capitalism
            The social system in which the state apparatus of government plays the role of capitalists. This interpretation of state capitalism gave rise to a direction in political and economic thought (often called state captains), which believed that the Soviet economy had been such a model since the 1930s. This theory was most consistently substantiated by Tony Cliff. In 1947, he wrote the book “State Capitalism in Russia”, in which he argued that capitalism is possible with one capitalist — a state in which the dominant class, which appropriates surplus value, is the highest state and party nomenclature: large state officials, directors and administration enterprises.
            1. 2news
              2news 29 January 2016 23: 44
              0
              Quote: AlexW
              This theory was most consistently substantiated by Tony Cliff.

              Well, why pay attention to Tony? Does anyone write what? Tony just did not read Marx, he does not know that the main sign of capitalism is PRIVATE OWNERSHIP IN PRODUCTION. Where in the USSR of the 30s was this form of ownership? Did not have. Hence, there was no capitalism. Neither public nor private. But feudal production relations flourished.
              1. AlexW
                AlexW 30 January 2016 06: 48
                0
                Private ownership of the means of production is classical capitalism, while we are talking about State capitalism. Were the means of production? There were! Who did it belong to? To the state! Here is such a unique company - JSC "USSR". There is no ownerless property, let alone profitable. Even then, no one took the Labuda about "factories for workers and land to peasants" seriously. Who ruled the state, the means of production, and received dividends? Partnership nomenclature, officials. High salaries, special rations, special clinics, free apartments, dachas, cars, servants, drivers, and other privileges. The higher the more, up to full state support. But they were all nothing more than managers who periodically displaced each other, at the best case, or even shot in the fight for a place at the trough. As in any large capitalist company, shareholders, each of which is not the absolute owner, constantly gnaw at each other. Feudalism is an absolute power handed down by inheritance. An example of the DPRK is pure feudalism with elements of pseudo-communist ideology-demagogy such as Juche.
                1. 2news
                  2news 30 January 2016 10: 34
                  0
                  Quote: AlexW
                  Private ownership of the means of production is classical capitalism. We are talking about State capitalism.

                  I repeat once again, there is private ownership of the joint venture, there is capitalism. Any, whatever. No this, no capitalism.
                  Quote: AlexW
                  Means of production were? Were! Who belonged to? To the state!

                  This is classic feudalism. And the state represented by the supreme feudal lord.
                  Quote: AlexW
                  Feudalism is an absolute power inherited.

                  This is classic feudalism. And in the USSR there was pseudo-religious feudalism. There, power was also transmitted by inheritance, but not blood, but ideological. From one General Secretary (supreme shaman) to another.
                  Quote: AlexW
                  An example of the DPRK is the purest feudalism with elements of a pseudo-communist ideology-demagogy such as Juche.

                  Yes, North Korea has gradually transformed from a pseudo-religious feudal country to a classic feudal country, but with elements of pseudo-religion (juche). This is good, that means development is going on there too. The next stage will be (necessarily) a bourgeois revolution.
                  Another question is when. Classic feudalism in a severe version combined with a powerful pseudo-religion (the North Korean version) seems to me a very stable version (see also the so-called Stalinism in the USSR). Rather, the entire people there will gradually die out, than the dynasty of "brilliant comrades Kim" will release power from their hands.
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    2. rustyle_nvrsk
      rustyle_nvrsk 28 January 2016 11: 02
      0
      "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.")))
    3. Photon
      Photon 29 January 2016 00: 06
      +1
      But I don’t need to talk about 1000r per month. I saw students at the institute and Korean sailors. Yes, not rich. Maybe you brought some prisoners.
  21. Free wind
    Free wind 28 January 2016 09: 38
    +2
    Outwardly, they are ordinary jamshuts, only thin, and for some reason all of them have 45 size slippers, and 36 themselves, only their "sergeant", as we called him, went outside the construction site, the rest did not stick out their noses, although it seems ours did not forbid them, dogs like they didn’t carry it, but on the heating main the bitch was whelping, they took three of them for their upbringing, kept in a cage. I don't know what happened next. I was struck by the amount of 1000 rubles. the rest of the money is taken by the company, some part is given to the family, some to the state, probably this is how they earn currency.
  22. Fidel
    Fidel 28 January 2016 09: 38
    13
    People as people, a country as a country .... Clean, neat, good roads, well-educated children, confident soldiers.
    But komenty under the pictures .... Yeahhhhhh ....
    A typical product of an eight-bit "Western" brain, designed for consumption by the same eight-bit "products of crap." Just think, the statue's ass cannot be photographed. In Thailand, you cannot stretch your legs towards the Buddha statue! You can really ring out on a zugunder. So what?
    It is not possible, to see, for the depraved and lowered to a half-scotch state "Western consciousness" to understand that there are peoples and countries for which there are RULES and TRADITIONS.
    And this chuckle, I see, did just everything that "is not allowed." And look you, alive and well, returned from the "terrible inhuman reserve of totalitarianism"))
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 28 January 2016 11: 06
      +1
      Fidel "In Thailand, you cannot stretch your legs towards the Buddha statue!"
      Finger in a poster depicting the king no-no))) He threatens the same zugunderder.)))
  23. Free wind
    Free wind 28 January 2016 09: 49
    +4
    But the pictures are certainly interesting, and why I need to ban them I do not understand. A man sleeps on stones, I just lay on a gravel gravel to doze, I had to go and I slept on the go, I think if in the cab I’ll oversleep. So I slept for 6 hours on the gravel. the weed collects, most likely the kura which al rabbit lives at home. We can click these pictures anywhere, but these pictures were already there, somewhere from half a year ago
    1. nagel_Oz
      nagel_Oz 28 January 2016 13: 48
      +2
      This is a common myth about grass. There is a lot of herbs for Korean food. We do not moan about sorrel soup .. And the pictures are absolutely biased, the photographer was looking for only negative moments. Photos of tears of patriotism of local "pioneers", cheerful faces of ordinary townspeople slipped on the network. Zyalt (our photographer) had pictures of drunken North Korean hard workers, dear hard workers. But if horror stories are paid, here! And Western lamentations about the bloody dictatorship of the Kims, this is how four generations live, this is the norm for them, but with their own charter, as you know ...
      1. atalef
        atalef 28 January 2016 14: 02
        0
        Quote: nagel_Oz
        This is a common myth about grass. There is a lot of herbs for Korean food. We do not moan about sorrel soup .. And the pictures are absolutely biased, the photographer was looking for only negative moments. Photos of tears of patriotism of local "pioneers", cheerful faces of ordinary townspeople slipped through the network

        this is all of course true, but one question always gnaws at me ... why are everyone thin, only KIMA - fat?
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 28 January 2016 14: 16
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          but one question always gnaws at me ... why are everyone thin, only KIMA - fat?

          Well, if you don’t know anything at all, why are you making it up?
          Kim Jong-un has hereditary diabetes from here in particular, and his problems with his legs and an abnormality to Koreans.
          The health of North Korean leaders is really poor. Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il (grandfather and father of Kim Jong Un) suffered from diabetes, heart problems.
          http://vesti-ukr.com/mir/73352-kim-chen-yn-zaintrigoval-ves-mir-svoej-trostju

          The capital of the DPRK is Pyongyang.

          Provincial Store.

          Policeman girl smile

          Just girls.

          Orthodox Church.

        2. teron
          teron 28 January 2016 14: 34
          +2
          In garlic, everything else torments me all the time: why are American generals (those that flash on TV) taut, while ours are always with an abdomen (it’s clear that not everything is also).
          One can still ask why in the United States, most politicians are slender and fit, and their fellow citizens are more easily obese? ;)
        3. Ivan Tartugai
          Ivan Tartugai 28 January 2016 15: 58
          +2
          ... why is everyone thin, only KIMA - fat?

          When I was young, I also thought that if a man has a red face and the man is fat, then he probably has not life, but raspberries.
          Later I realized that the wider the waist of a person, the worse his health, the shorter his life.
        4. RUSS
          RUSS 28 January 2016 20: 42
          0
          Quote: atalef
          only KIMY - fat?

          Especially the last one, he also smokes constantly does not at all monitor his health.
      2. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 28 January 2016 15: 26
        +2
        Quote: nagel_Oz
        And the photos are absolutely biased, the photographer was looking for only negative points
        - this is how the article is called "Forbidden Photos ..." hi
  24. core
    core 28 January 2016 10: 02
    11
    ordinary photos of ordinary life, but from the author’s comments. I just want to bleat.
    1. Kaluzhanin
      Kaluzhanin 28 January 2016 10: 30
      +8
      I agree - photos are not as scary as comments on them. Moreover, some if not most of the photos I had previously seen on other resources.
  25. vnord
    vnord 28 January 2016 10: 19
    +6
    Quote: lilian
    And how on the pics to understand a person is starving or not

    It’s just like I’m taking my relative off, it will look like they’re not feeding him at all
  26. rustyle_nvrsk
    rustyle_nvrsk 28 January 2016 10: 29
    -20 qualifying.
    This is how the ideal world of stones is. :)
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 28 January 2016 11: 05
      +9
      rustyle_nvrsk "This is how the ideal world of kamunyaki looks like. :)"
      Of course, of course ....))) Only with the commies did these plants in your Novorossiysk work.)))
      From the wiki .. "Factories:" Hammer "," Red Engine "," Pishchemash ", ship repair, radio plant" Priboi ". All of the listed factories are closed, brought into bankruptcy or operate at 1-2% of their capacity."
      Che did damned commies, you understand the factories worked at them ayayayay.))))
      1. rustyle_nvrsk
        rustyle_nvrsk 28 January 2016 11: 18
        -15 qualifying.
        Krasnopuzy, firstly, the factories were closed under the same kamunyaks - the faithful Leninists Yeltsin and Gaidar. And, secondly, most of these factories were defective even in the conditions of a miserable planned "economy". And they did not want to repurpose them. So past the checkout.))
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 28 January 2016 11: 53
          +8
          rustyle_nvrsk "Krasnopuzy, firstly, the factories were closed with the same kamunyaki - the faithful Leninists Yeltsin and Gaidar. And, secondly, most of these factories were flawed even in the conditions of a poor planned" economy. "And they did not want to redesign them. past the checkout.)) "

          For those who have no mind, any plants are flawed. ))) Are you probably from the counts? Or a noble family? Maybe you are the Duke?)))
          Although no ... judging by bydlyachki manners .... this is unlikely.)))
          1. Ajjh
            Ajjh 28 January 2016 12: 47
            -11 qualifying.
            Above said rudely and with a large share of trolling. but in fact everything is true. and you have nothing to answer
            Deal with it! communism has lost! learn to lose finally!
            1. KBR109
              KBR109 28 January 2016 13: 34
              +3
              The industry of Krasnodar, the democrats, too, completely ruined. Everywhere nowadays there are only ub-human shopping centers. And those same Sedina with Saturn really knew the whole world.
            2. Nagaibak
              Nagaibak 28 January 2016 14: 48
              0
              Ajjh "Deal with it! Communism has lost! Learn to lose at last!"
              You then Belarusians it is certainly more visible.)))
              1. Ajjh
                Ajjh 28 January 2016 15: 30
                -1
                That's exactly what we know better. when most of the officials came directly from the Central Committee of the party, we very well understand where we are going. and believe that S. Korea is very well understood
                1. Nagaibak
                  Nagaibak 28 January 2016 17: 53
                  0
                  Ajjh "This is exactly what we know best. When most of the officials came straight from the Central Committee of the Party, we understand very well where we are going. And believe me, we understand S. Korea very well."
                  Under the flag of Belarus, they often know fighters against communism - Poles speak out or Belarusian belolentochniks.))) They all know that.))) I looked at your comments))) Do you understand everything.)))) Do you do anything else besides grants? )))
                  1. Ajjh
                    Ajjh 28 January 2016 18: 34
                    -2
                    Yes, of course, I only manage to spend grants. in the morning another grant came :)
                    and de Belarus!
                    1. Nagaibak
                      Nagaibak 28 January 2016 19: 45
                      0
                      = Ajjh "and still de - Belarus!"
                      You have what you want, but we have Belarus!)))
                2. AlexW
                  AlexW 29 January 2016 16: 04
                  0
                  This is the whole reason -Yeltsins, Gaidars, Kravchuks, Turchinovs and Khodorkovskys and others were not communists -WERE NOT! And they were "members" of the party - opportunists and careerists. When there were enough of them - "like-minded people", a critical mass in power, they organized a coup. And in an instant they became "democrats, liberals", and in fact oligarchs, forming a new estate of those in power.
                  1. 2news
                    2news 29 January 2016 16: 51
                    -1
                    Quote: AlexW
                    When there were enough of them - "like-minded people", a critical mass in power, they organized a coup. And in an instant they became "democrats, liberals", and in fact oligarchs, forming a new estate of those in power.

                    Nope. These renegade communists did not at all become oligarchs. Anyway, there are no oligarchs in Russia. They were invented by zhurnalyugami, poorly versed in such things.
                    The feudal system of managing on a pseudo-religious basis (called socialism), characteristic of the USSR, was transformed into a feudal system of a more traditional type. That's all. But in such a system there is no place for oligarchs.
                    1. AlexW
                      AlexW 29 January 2016 22: 33
                      0
                      "Oligarchy is the power of the few; - a political regime in which power is concentrated in the hands of a relatively small group of citizens and serves their personal and group interests, and not the interests of all citizens. Oligarchs are members of an oligarchy, they can either be members of the government themselves, or have a decisive influence on its formation and decision-making in their personal and group interests. "(C) Almost all 1st secretaries of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Union Republics became Presidents, 2-3 Governors, mayors. Owners of large enterprises and even entire industries. Often through dummies. Where did the 1st secretary of the Komsomol district committee Khodorkovsky suddenly get millions of dollars to participate in the loans-for-shares auction? And who "allowed" him to win this auction? To become a monopolist .... Oy-oo .. Party gold .. Where is it? Who does it work for?
                      1. 2news
                        2news 29 January 2016 23: 38
                        0
                        Quote: AlexW
                        Oligarchs - members of the oligarchy, can either be members of the government themselves, or have a decisive influence on its formation and decision-making in their personal and group interests.

                        You forgot to add that oligarchy is possible ONLY in a bourgeois society. In feudal society, those who "themselves be members of the government, or have a decisive influence on its formation and decision-making in their personal and group interests" are called differently.
                      2. AlexW
                        AlexW 30 January 2016 07: 20
                        +1
                        Well, that's what I'm writing about - pseudo-communists, officials and the nomenklatura-former "members" of the CPSU in 91 destroyed the state enterprise ZAO "USSR", divided everything among themselves and began to build classical (according to Marx) capitalism. From that moment on, the oligarchy arose. And feudalism is the next stage, when the oligarchs, in internecine squabbling, will receive absolute, monopoly power not only over the means of production, but also over the working cattle-vassals and create conditions for the transfer of this power by inheritance.
                      3. 2news
                        2news 30 January 2016 10: 21
                        0
                        Quote: AlexW
                        and began to build classical (according to Marx) capitalism.

                        Exactly until 1993. After that, all "construction of capitalism" stopped.
                        Quote: AlexW
                        And feudalism is the next stage - when the oligarchs in a civil strife gain absolute, monopoly power not only over the means of production,

                        Once again I repeat to you, oligarchs, this is a sign of a capitalist society. Under feudalism, such individuals are called differently. Those that you have in mind are called vendors.
  • Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 28 January 2016 10: 53
    +4
    I put a minus. Ordinary everyday photos. Such pictures can be clicked in any country and in the USA even more so. Got comments. It reminded me of how
    such zhurnalyugi about gray Our Olympics. It was a shame for the Military Review that it slides before the distribution of pin to the Soviet libels.
  • Bator
    Bator 28 January 2016 11: 06
    +5
    Quote: Aleksander
    Quote: AlexW
    It’s strange somehow ... Photography was forbidden, the photo was brought ... The camera was confiscated, and the photo was uploaded. Backyards of some kind, poorly dressed, tired people ... yes, such photos can be taken anywhere. In Europe, America in the same South Korea. Yes, poor countries, sanctions-blockade for decades. Poverty is always ashamed everywhere.


    Such poverty is not directly visible, unless the line to trolleybuses is amazing. There are no tattered rags, there are roads, there is transport, there is a dolphinarium, the army is dressed normally. Poverty, and mental abilities, is visible, rather, with the commentator, the offset of his comments? Let him go to Africa, where millions die without water and food and without clothes and take a look.
    I do not like North Korea, absolutely, but the author’s position is dishonorable ....

    Well, I liked the queue for the bus - discipline. And you did not see the crowd at us storming country buses - this is something. Well, in our remote places, you can also remove those plots. And Africa, with its starving and dying population, is not a trend; democracy has already been sown there. Now just an order for the DPRK arrived.
  • RPG_
    RPG_ 28 January 2016 11: 17
    +1
    Yes, they live normally. If it weren’t for the faces, they could be confused with the Russian outback. Great photos and nothing catastrophic about it. Well, maybe besides the lack of public transport.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 28 January 2016 12: 05
      +5
      RPG_ "Yes, they live normally. If it weren't for their faces, they could be confused with the Russian hinterland."
      But there are different pictures.)) Here they built a street for scientists.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 28 January 2016 20: 46
        0
        Quote: Nagaibak
        Here they lined a street for scientists.

        The next "picture", like the long-term hotel in Pyongyang "Ryugyon", has been under construction since 1987 and is still not completed, the facade is less complete, but there is emptiness inside.
  • Romanenko
    Romanenko 28 January 2016 11: 19
    +6
    The photos are interesting, and the comments .... well, as in the era of the Cold War, it seems like all the talk that it ended is tales for the weak-minded. Here a man is fishing, it’s because there is no money, everyone is poor, you want to eat, the village has died out of starvation, or you can’t take pictures of the military, but what about the military on 90% of the pictures, and since the military is the aggressor in the pictures, it put everyone under arms , oh well, rubbish !!!
    There was such an old joke (long before Begging and others, probably even under Yushchenko) about the Ukrainian delegation at the UN international forum on environmental protection, when it was the turn to deliver a report to the Ukrainian delegation, the chairperson asked - just please, talk about nature, and then everything is so politicized ...
    The Ukro-reporter nodded his head and said, “What is this being done with nature? They brought the poor to grips, the rivers dried up, now they’ve cut down the forests neither to drown the Jew nor to hang them ...”
    That's when I read the comments on this photo shoot all this stupid joke goes into my head.
  • rustyle_nvrsk
    rustyle_nvrsk 28 January 2016 11: 25
    -13 qualifying.
    Everyone who writes "yes people live well": go there for permanent residence.))) Less soviet shit in Russia - it is easier for Russian people.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 28 January 2016 12: 08
      +9
      rustyle_nvrsk "Everyone who writes" yes people live well ": go there for permanent residence.))) Less soviet shit in Russia - it's easier for Russian people."
      About Sovkovskoye wrote all the time dill and Bandera rabble. About cotton wool there, about scoops. Are you probably one of them?)))
    2. KBR109
      KBR109 28 January 2016 13: 38
      +2
      Tie yourself a "democrat" with a white ribbon around your neck. Maybe someone will tighten it.
    3. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 28 January 2016 15: 40
      +3
      Quote: rustyle_nvrsk
      Less shit shit in Russia - Russian people easier.
      - this is for example what? Distribution with the provision of housing after high school? State monopoly on alcohol? Domestic computers not inferior to Western? Engineering recognized worldwide? An opportunity to live worthy in the villages?
    4. the villain
      the villain 28 January 2016 18: 27
      +3
      Quote: rustyle_nvrsk
      Less shit shit in Russia - Russian people easier.

      Well, yes, the look of a true mankurt.
  • fire44
    fire44 28 January 2016 11: 47
    +2
    Western flashmod - but from this begins Libya, Syria, Egypt, etc. forgot about Okraina. The premise is that you live poorly, we will teach you a good life. Their god is a belly and they worship him earnestly. We have such admirers in power now - they are falling in the face when oil prices rise and shed bitter tears when these prices fall.
  • Jääkorppi
    Jääkorppi 28 January 2016 11: 57
    +2
    http://rusnext.ru/recent_opinions/1453943431 - 60 человек владеют средствами больше, чем половина человечества! Вот такой вот счастливый капитализм!
  • vvp2412
    vvp2412 28 January 2016 12: 10
    0
    ACCORDION! Photo and article are as old as light !!!
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 28 January 2016 12: 16
      +3
      vvp2412 "BAYAN! Photos and articles are old as light !!!"
      Here's a fresher.))) Although there is a clear photomontage at home in the background, they are not there, they are from cardboard.))))) And between them hungry North Koreans crawl and collect grass for food.)))
    2. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 28 January 2016 15: 32
      +2
      Quote: vvp2412
      ACCORDION! Photo and article are as old as light !!!
      - something has changed radically and the DPRK has begun production of televisions, there are cars in wide use, have ceased to ask the world for food?
      1. Ivan Tartugai
        Ivan Tartugai 28 January 2016 16: 09
        +2
        ... stopped asking the world for food?

        Somewhere in 2005, North Korea carried out agricultural reform. Well, of course, not like the Gorbachev food program with us. And they gradually increased their harvest, and since 2013 they have provided for themselves.
  • qwert
    qwert 28 January 2016 12: 15
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    PS
    North Korea at night. For those who do not understand: this is a black hole between South Korea and China.

    For 120 years there has been a rebuttal. And first of all, from China, since the authors of Photoshop accidentally slipped over part of China as well.
    You believe the USA more. They say a lot about Russia.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 January 2016 12: 33
      +3
      Quote: qwert
      You believe the USA more.

      Professor from Israel and they are the same storytellers as the United States.
  • teron
    teron 28 January 2016 12: 25
    +3
    There is nothing glaring in the photographs. Especially when you consider that the country lives practically in isolation. And why should I believe the comments under the photo? "Forbidden", "rude", etc. Moreover, some signatures contradict each other. In short, stupid propaganda.
  • Ajjh
    Ajjh 28 January 2016 12: 25
    +4
    Is funny photo fake and old?
    Well, at least a couple of kilometers from the cities, then laugh
    Che, no one has thrown off a photo of decaying America, but photos of Russian villages can be found in ramparts
    1. MMX
      MMX 28 January 2016 12: 48
      +1
      Quote: Ajjh
      Is funny photo fake and old?
      Well, at least a couple of kilometers from the cities, then laugh
      Che, no one has thrown off a photo of decaying America, but photos of Russian villages can be found in ramparts


      First, where did you see the laugh in the subject?
      Secondly, photos of "another America" ​​can be found no less than photos of Russian villages. The only question is who wants to find what. You, apparently, don't want to see your friend on the side of the United States, that's why you are looking for photos of Russian villages (not the worst, by the way, revenge on earth, I must say), but in the context of devastation and poverty ...
      1. Ajjh
        Ajjh 28 January 2016 13: 04
        +1
        I really want my country to be compared with the USA, but alas ...
        And in the case: there are only a couple of countries that simply must be rich, including the United States and Russia. hence the comparison. I don’t want to look for either the good or the bad side, we are not small children to understand that there is no white without black (of course not a race, I mean). But somehow it catches the eye. that difference. Especially if the advantages are wrecked. those are the bright sides of life
  • Pimply
    Pimply 28 January 2016 12: 55
    +2
    Add a couple of points.
    For starters, gentlemen beating themselves in the chest, one must clearly understand: the DPRK is a tough dictatorial regime, and an extremely poor country. A break with the same South Korea - dozens of times. And all the super-duper buildings, and so on. - window dressing, a typical topic for dictatorships, the majority of the population lives extremely poor. Pyongyang is a metropolitan city, so it looks nothing against the general background. But, for example, a refrigerator in a house is a matter of prestige (a non-working item, because electricity is cut regularly), amenities in many houses - not in an apartment, etc.

    BUT ... There are some big but.
    For example, grass is part of the diet not only of North Koreans, but also of the south. Why? Because part of the traditional cuisine.
    Poverty is total, but not the same as a few years ago. Mobile phones are quite common, for example (although the refrigerator is a luxury, and the luxury is non-working).
    The country actively lives by the laws of wild capitalism. Nobody exists for salaries; a complex system of bribes is built in which, surprisingly, the state is inscribed. For example, a person is engaged in carriage. He buys an old bus in China (for example, with the money of Chinese or Japanese relatives), registers it at some state-owned enterprise as the property of the enterprise (he pays part of the proceeds there), maximizes a few more bribes - and goes to work it all out. That allows the formation of small and medium-sized businesses. The state is struggling with this phenomenon from time to time, but recently it has become less and less active.

    So these pictures are like this - a very small piece of a very large picture, which partly yes, shows the truth, and partly - it is hidden on the contrary.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 28 January 2016 15: 02
      +1
      Bumpy "To begin with, gentlemen beating themselves in the chest, we must clearly understand: the DPRK is a tough dictatorial regime, and an extremely poor country."
      Poverty, however, varies.))) It depends on what to compare with.
      "The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) has published a report showing that one in five Israelis and one in three Israeli children live in poverty. This puts Israel in the first place in terms of poverty among the developed countries.
      Today, 21% of Israelis live in poverty. For comparison, in 1995 there were 13,8% of them.
      Last year, Israel ranked second after Mexico for the number of poor families in the OECD.
      There are other statistics that place Israel (which joined the OECD in 2010) the fifth largest difference in income between rich and poor, after Chile, Mexico, Turkey and the United States. In Israel, the worst hit by the global economic downturn were the weakest and most vulnerable - low-income families. "
      Therefore, if at least a little it is better to live, dress, etc. in the DPRK and then glory be to God.
      As for the grass, I heard that Koreans are simply engaged in weeding it and manually mowing the lawns.)))
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 28 January 2016 15: 15
        -2
        Quote: Nagaibak
        Poverty, however, varies.))) It depends on what to compare with.

        In the DPRK, this is poverty.
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 28 January 2016 16: 21
          +2
          Lumpy "In the DPRK, this is poverty."
          Maybe so.))) But what's the point of discussing biased photos. To show that everything is bad there. Well, so not everyone is bad there and not everywhere. Photos can be pulled about any country, that's what I'm talking about. Do we have poverty? Yes, as many or not in the states? Same. North Koreans certainly live poorer than many countries - I do not argue. But, and they are all different.
    2. Sharapov
      Sharapov 28 January 2016 15: 15
      +3
      About the development gap with South Korea

      DPRK figures: GDP - $ 1200 per capita, Human Development Index (HDI) - 0,491 - 157th place in the world.
      South Korea - GDP - 29140, HDI - 0,891 - 15th place.
      For comparison, Russia - GDP - 12926. HDI - 0,798 - 50th place.
      I am more confused by the word "democratic" in the name of the country, and even in combination with the word "people-". Where to look for her?
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 29 January 2016 00: 08
        0
        Quote: Sharapov
        GDP

        Less objective than GDP is just a direct lie.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 28 January 2016 13: 03
    +2
    For some reason, the people of North Korea arouse respect for me.
    Maybe because of their resistance to material difficulties. Material comfort and an abundance of goods leads to relaxation, perversions, and ultimately degradation.
    1. atalef
      atalef 28 January 2016 13: 08
      +2
      Quote: Pvi1206
      Material comfort and an abundance of goods leads to relaxation, perversions, and ultimately degradation.

      Yes, for a long time we all degrade to the level of Monaco
  • Free wind
    Free wind 28 January 2016 13: 05
    +1
    More about the Koreans that I saw, everyone smokes, no money but smoke. I threw maybe 10 years ago, smoked 3-4 packs a day. Therefore, for me it was somehow ... well, it was not clear, after all, it was expensive. Although I have friends, smokers, they are switching to samosad. It is also not clear, but he himself quit smoking with torment.
    1. atalef
      atalef 28 January 2016 13: 20
      +3
      Quote: Free Wind
      More about the Koreans that I saw, everyone smokes, no money but smoke.

      and this is the only thing left for them - to smoke .... bamboo
  • Free wind
    Free wind 28 January 2016 13: 12
    0
    The grass that the peasant collects is obviously just the grass of the field, well, and you see the quantity, most likely for what chicken. Edible herbs, as it were, will be meaty. And we also eat grass, well, the same is wild garlic or spelled as we call it, a delicious treat with sour cream, but then it’s better not to kiss. wink
  • bbss
    bbss 28 January 2016 13: 30
    +1
    How familiar is this handwriting provocateurs. I'm even surprised that this Laforg didn't say anything about toilet paper ...
  • report4
    report4 28 January 2016 13: 31
    +1
    The funny thing is that the Israelis were most excited in the photo. A country powered by American yal * s. But it turns out you can live differently - not so rich, but the honor to keep with you.
    A photo .. well, a photo as a photo. In any country, you can do these.
    Happy children means well-fed. Careless people - that means they feel safe.
  • Seba
    Seba 28 January 2016 13: 43
    +1
    Andrei Lankov writes not badly about the DPRK, it is reasonably balanced without enthusiasm but also without horror.
  • elenagromova
    elenagromova 28 January 2016 14: 41
    +3
    This is not the first time I have seen this material. Well, what can you say? The photographs show ordinary life. Which is complete in any country in the world. It’s just really, when it comes to the DPRK, then everything is presented in the appropriate form. People are resting - they are supposedly "homeless". It is in the DPRK that there are no homeless people ... In contrast to the West.
  • friend of animals
    friend of animals 28 January 2016 14: 47
    -5
    They live in poverty, and this is, after all, among the landscapes that they managed to shoot only on official "excursions". Eating grass is tough, of course, but a huge army is fed. Yes, in many countries of Africa is not better, but in North. Korea has a good reason for this - a totalitarian (not communist) regime. Considering the working capacity of Koreans, they could live no worse than South Korea. I hope it will not come to war, and a leader will appear who will end this shame with a decision from above.
  • gameover_65
    gameover_65 28 January 2016 14: 50
    +4
    something is a bit much for a hidden camera, and the quality is excellent.
    it seems to me that this photographer was not entry because of the lying
    captions for photos.
  • Mr. Pip
    Mr. Pip 28 January 2016 14: 57
    -2
    Tired of political debate on the VO, but hard and I can not keep quiet! wassat
    I especially liked the comments: I rephrase the ones you like!
    In S.K. sleeping on the street because - WHAT DO NOT BE AFRAID
    Yes, when you don’t have any money or anything valuable with you, you really can’t be afraid - they will rob fellow
    Children have sandals of different colors because they LIKE it so
    Well, yes, of course, especially in S.K. where informal youth subcultures are prohibited, and fashion is absent as a phenomenon.
    In S.K. it's dark at night because they "save" electricity - GOOD MEN
    They don't "save" - ​​they don't modify it! I am certainly not a specialist in the energy sector, but as far as I know, a power plant is not an internal combustion engine - it cannot be simply "muffled" - there is a daily rate of electricity generation and if it is not enough, then it is distributed by day, in the remaining time it is "accumulated". If there are specialists here and I'm wrong, please correct hi
    The country is in a world blockade
    Of course, but nothing prevents it from trading with Russia, China or Cuba, or with any other countries through "intermediaries".
    US sanctions strangle proud republic
    Yes, there are sanctions - but so what ?!
    Where are the comparisons of the economics of S.K. with other republics that do not have trade with the United States or have it in an "insignificant amount" of GDP ?!
    Without this, then what and how to compare ?! request
    Soldiers S.K. firewood and sweep, and that's okay - we did it too
    Well, what good is that ?!
    The army should be a "school to kill", not a "school of life" - a soldier should not do household work and think about where to find calories, he should do "at the training ground and in the gym"!
    Similar photos can be taken in ANY COUNTRY OF THE WORLD
    Yes, it is possible in Israel and even in the USA! BUT - is it possible in S.K. take the same photos as in the USA or Yu.K. with sparkling skyscrapers and roads clogged with expensive cars ?! No, no and NO!!!
    Mobile phones are getting "better" in S.K.
    It's funny, honestly! Firstly, a mobile phone is still a sign of "wealth" (and a refrigerator of "wealth"), and secondly, you cannot look at these "mobile phones" without tears, they are of CHINESE PRODUCTION - we have these cost 999 rubles. and in addition to them, another 3 months of free calls and the Internet are given for this cost.
    North Korea is good but the blockade is against it, because everyone is bad
    No comment, all around pi .... one I'm Dartanyan all in white laughing
    Yes, you saw what another state was like, for example, Yu.K., with "sanctions"
    And this is a damn right question, why in the UK there are no sanctions and they live well, and the UK in sanctions - maybe the leadership is doing something wrong?
    1. Mr. Pip
      Mr. Pip 28 January 2016 14: 58
      0
      Well and the most important thing!
      SK do not like because communism
      It's funny! In China, too, "communism" and the USSR also traded with the whole world than it could, but for some reason the "sanctions" were against the UK! request
      Probably because there is no "communism" there, but there is natural feudalism, for which no one would care if it were not for the "political" claims of this very feudalism for power in the region, for the same South Caucasus - of which no one is in their right mind in the UK by the way does not want! fellow
      PS I finished, you can put a minus, if anyone has nothing to say with reason request
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 28 January 2016 20: 54
      0
      Quote: Mr. PIP
      I especially liked the comments: I rephrase the ones you like!

      Yes, these are just phrases that will go down in Internet history laughing especially this B S.K. sleeping on the street because - WHAT DO NOT BE AFRAID, we also have such a campaign
      1. Mr. Pip
        Mr. Pip 28 January 2016 21: 44
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        we also have such a campaign

        Hike yes, and pay attention to the EXTRAVAGANT pose, he is not only not afraid of anything, he is also a creative person - apparently he just got tired walking from the House of Culture "Milling cutters against Suprematism in the light novel" after the collective round dance.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 28 January 2016 22: 37
          +1
          Quote: Mr. PIP
          Hike yes, and pay attention to the EXTRAVAGANT pose, he is not only not afraid of anything, he is also a creative person - apparently he just got tired walking from the House of Culture "Milling cutters against Suprematism in the light novel" after the collective round dance.

          He does not sleep on a bench, he practices a special kind of yoga. laughing
          1. Mr. Pip
            Mr. Pip 28 January 2016 22: 52
            0
            Quote: RUSS
            He does not sleep on a bench, he practices a special kind of yoga.

            Yes, you are a genius !!! belay
            We are all discussing "why people in the UK sleep on the street" - and they just meditate! fellow
  • Pissarro
    Pissarro 28 January 2016 16: 57
    10
    Monstrous sanctions were imposed on the DPRK, in fact a total blockade. Of the most egregious, it is the ability of any country to grab North Korean cargo only on the basis of suspicion (without evidence) that it was intended for a nuclear missile program. Of recent, the Japanese stole aluminum only because centrifuges can be made from it. There is also a beautiful ban on the country’s ability to earn currency, because it can help finance the nuclear missile program. I’m silent about the impossibility of any banking operation.
    First they will arrange a total blockade, then they will demonstrate how badly it is to live in the blockade. The whole essence of the West. It seems like they write about completely blocked Gaza, like look what Arabs are wild, but you can’t stupidly build anything, since you can’t ban building materials and sell nothing past Israel, like a seaport as an opportunity banned tightly.
    Cuba is there in a seventy-year-old blockade, Iran in thirty-year-old. And it also launches rockets and develops an atom.
    Looking for a reason in their difficult life? this reason is your blockade, and not their system, the answer is simple.
    1. Mr. Pip
      Mr. Pip 28 January 2016 18: 23
      -5
      Quote: Pissarro
      Looking for a reason in their difficult life? this reason is your blockade, and not their system, the answer is simple.

      So in the system is the reason for the blockade! And he is not communist, he is feudal, and he is aggressive!
      And do not think that someone (the same Yu.K.) wants to attack S.K. - to think so, it means not even to understand the fundamentals of the modern economy, the attack of South Korea on its northern neighbor is an instant blow to its own economy - and there is no oil there either - the US does not make sense to attack there either!
      So why do they need missiles and nuclear weapons if they do not need anybody ?! request
      Quote: Pissarro
      I’m silent about the impossibility to carry out any banking operation.

      And be silent, this is an outright lie.
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 29 January 2016 20: 08
        +1
        aggression nowadays comes exclusively from the so-called Western democracies. The supposedly aggressive DPRK has not launched a single war and does not go into the affairs of any state.

        And the normal states do not build defense capability on the understanding of the economy, but on building such a potential that the aggressor will suffer unacceptable damage. So the reason why the aggressive West did not attack the DPRK is the same, why it does not attack the Russian Federation or Iran, they will wash themselves with blood, that's why.

        And the dependence of Western aggression on oil is a myth. There is no oil in Serbia, but there was aggression. In Afghanistan, oil is also bad, but the amount of aggression is okay
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 28 January 2016 20: 49
      -4
      Quote: Pissarro
      Monstrous sanctions imposed on the DPRK, essentially a total blockade

      There is also their partial fault in this, it’s not good to blame the UN and the whole world for all the troubles.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 29 January 2016 00: 11
        +2
        Quote: RUSS
        There is also their partial fault in this, it’s not good to blame the UN and the whole world for all the troubles.

        Yeah, as well as Iran and Russia, according to you, are also "themselves to blame."
        "" Innocent yayayaya, he saaam came! ""
  • report4
    report4 28 January 2016 17: 40
    0
    Quote: Oles
    Here everyone says that the pictures are ordinary, nothing like that, they say you can take pictures everywhere. So everywhere they shoot freely) But for some reason the photographer was banned from entering "for ordinary" photographs.

    Do you have a certificate where it says that he was banned from entering for a photo? And then, one p-ball said that for the photo, and you repeat. There is evidence that he raped children there. Norm?