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New Delhi and Paris come to an understanding: India will purchase French fighter jets 36

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French President Hollande and Indian Prime Minister Modi signed an agreement today on India’s acquisition of 36 fighter jets "Rafale", reports MIC with reference to tass.




The signed “document is a memorandum of understanding and does not determine the cost of airplanes, on which there is still no specific agreement between the countries. The supply contract is expected to be signed after that, ”the agency notes.

According to President Hollande, "the cost of French fighters Rafale for India will be determined in the coming days."

In turn, Premier Modi expressed the hope that "the financial component of the transaction will be determined as soon as possible."

It is noted that "as a result of the negotiations, 13 documents were signed - memorandums of understanding - on cooperation in the space, nuclear, cultural, railway and other fields".
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  1. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 25 January 2016 16: 12 New
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    A memorandum of understanding is not a contract. Again, they will begin to quarrel over the price and conditions, and out of the guise of the Indians will beg for discounts and additional goodies with us. Just easy blackmail
    1. maxiban
      maxiban 25 January 2016 16: 14 New
      14
      A memorandum is a filkin letter - nothing. Brain insurance will continue.
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 25 January 2016 16: 23 New
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        Quote: maxiban
        A memorandum is a filkin letter - nothing. Brain insurance will continue.

        well .... not at all filkina .... I remember when the Mistrals stayed with the French, they all shouted that now they wouldn’t attach them anywhere ... but no, they immediately went to Egypt ... then everyone shouted that the frogs were not good partners and no one will buy anything from them .... but no ..... Algeria .. Morocco ... India .. South America ...
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 25 January 2016 17: 12 New
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          Quote: gispanec
          Well, well .... not at all ....

          Filkina-filkina. Budapest memorandum remember?
        2. Alekseev
          Alekseev 26 January 2016 08: 08 New
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          Quote: gispanec
          they immediately went to Egypt ... then everyone shouted that the frogs were not good partners and no one would buy anything from them ...

          Not immediately and not just ... Yes, and they have not gone anywhere, so in France they arrive without weapons systems.
          Yes, and why such ships to Egypt? But Saudi Arabia paid for them ... I.e. almost free for Egypt ...
          Here the support of the French is evident: the United States asked the Saudis to help France through Egypt. And where will the wind then bring the Mistral - see.
          And what does it mean "no one will buy anything"? Arms will be bought from France by their allies and other countries that have joined. This is us not horseradish to buy weapons and components for it NATO countries.
      2. marna
        marna 25 January 2016 16: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: maxiban
        A memorandum is a filkin letter - nothing.

        In short, they promised to promise.
      3. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 25 January 2016 17: 01 New
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        Quote: maxiban
        a memorandum is a filkin letter - nothing.


        Do airplanes fly in fact? We handled the factual mail. Who does not like, we will provide delivery.
      4. VIT101
        VIT101 25 January 2016 18: 07 New
        +4
        Do not hesitate to buy. No need to build illusions and convince ourselves.
    2. Linkor9s21
      Linkor9s21 25 January 2016 16: 22 New
      -7
      Well, it’s not surprising that they would buy Rafal after all, if ours had not been hacked with the Su-30MKI (a complaint from the Indians themselves), they would have continued to buy our aircraft.
      1. shans2
        shans2 25 January 2016 16: 52 New
        +6
        one fool writes an incomprehensible button accordion to whom, and others begin after him, the Rafael contract is important for India not for the sake of the planes themselves, but for the latest production technologies that they are trying to knock out in the contract, because it doesn’t work, the French do not give away suckers for a penny technology.
    3. milann
      milann 25 January 2016 16: 24 New
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      Hindus today hold the eggs for Holland an alternative to buying airplanes from Russia. They knock down the price.
      People, the main news Today is the birthday of the great Russian poet, bard, actor Vladimir Vysotsky. He has answers to every news topic, even about Indians, -
      the Indians came up with a good religion
      that we, having given ends, do not die at all!
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 25 January 2016 17: 12 New
        +5
        36 aircraft are too few for India (a couple of squadrons + a few training), so the interest is primarily in technology, especially in my opinion electronics (avionics) and engines. Otherwise, the Indians would not have persisted. hi
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 25 January 2016 22: 11 New
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        Quote: milann
        Hindus today hold the eggs for Holland an alternative to buying airplanes from Russia.

        They don’t actually hold it. They are now needed Rafali due to the obsolescence of the park. And they want to get the French planes for a number of completely justified reasons.
    4. Uran
      Uran 26 January 2016 01: 35 New
      -3
      so India could buy our fighters. not French bullshit
    5. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 26 January 2016 11: 16 New
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      It doesn’t matter at all in price, the Indians want to get not so much the planes themselves as technologies on them and the ability to assemble them like with our T90s, the paddlers at first promised them from here and the price was so high and then we stupidly turned on the back pier the planes themselves we’ll sell here the Indians and get caught.
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 25 January 2016 16: 12 New
    +3
    "Prime Minister Modi expressed hope that" the financial component of the deal will be determined as soon as possible. "
    Now, Oland will give up everything and will count the cost of 30 aircraft.
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 25 January 2016 16: 17 New
      +4
      All the same, they are slowly pushing their RAFALS. It is a pity that we had the opportunity, and so these deliveries would be undertaken.
      A report by independent auditors from Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) was released on the eve of the visit of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to Russia.

      The report indicates that no more than 60 percent of fighters are in a state of combat readiness with a minimum rate of 75 percent. Of the 210 combat vehicles in service with the Indian Air Force, 115-126 units are currently in non-flying condition. In total, during the time of operation, about six aircraft of this type were lost.

      As noted in the report, Su-30MKI fighters often suffer from technical problems with on-board electronics and warning stations when exposed to other people's radars. It also indicates problems with the supply of spare parts from Russia.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 25 January 2016 18: 07 New
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        This is from an extremely slow bureaucratic system.
        supply of spare parts. Faulty motor for example they
        sent to Russia, and waiting for repair for months. A plane
        stands as a monument on earth.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 25 January 2016 19: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          This is from an extremely slow bureaucratic system.
          supply of spare parts. Faulty motor for example they
          sent to Russia, and waiting for repair for months. A plane
          stands as a monument on earth.

          Not only. It is also from the hand ... of local personnel. You remember the statement of the Minister of Defense of India:
          India operates a modification of the Su-30MKI, not very different from the Algerian version. At the same time, according to the Minister of Defense, the Indian Air Force already had five accidents and 69 incidents with AL-31FP engines manufactured by HAL since 2012. According to Parrikar, of these 69 incidents, 33 were caused by chips in the oil, 11 caused vibration in the engine, and eight were due to very low pressure in the oil supply. Accusations were made regarding the poor quality of the assembly, which quickly resulted in a fatigue effect that caused cracks, which led to the appearance of metal fragments and the oil circuit. The investigation also drew attention to the quality of the oil. By order of the Indian Ministry of Defense, measures have been taken: the use of better quality oil, the alteration and replacement of welding and mounting components between mechanical parts.

          In short, we’ve gathered the bloopers, which was flooded ... and then they are surprised at the low percentage of combat readiness.
  3. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 25 January 2016 16: 12 New
    +2
    India does not want to put all the eggs in one basket, nevertheless they signed agreements with the paddling pools. Otherwise, we won’t, we won’t.
  4. Maksus
    Maksus 25 January 2016 16: 15 New
    +4
    Yes, it is clear for a long time everything with these "friends", they do not need a strong army of their own, but only need material benefits. Just imagine what kind of hemorrhoids the suppliers will have with the purchase of components and ammunition - the Indians will have our equipment, French and their own. Etozh akhtung.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 25 January 2016 19: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Maksus
      Just imagine what kind of hemorrhoids the suppliers will have with the procurement of components and ammunition - the Indians will have our equipment, French and their own. ETOGES AHTUNG.

      India is not an Achtung yet. Akhtung is the UAE (and partly Saudis). They are in service and are planned for purchase by American, German, French, British, Italian, Russian, Spanish, Brazilian, Turkish equipment. belay
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 25 January 2016 19: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        American, German, French, British, Italian, Russian, Spanish, Brazilian, Turkish technology

        They forgot about the Chinese, but the Indians didn’t go far from them. They also have a healthy zoo. Especially in the Air Force.
      2. Maksus
        Maksus 25 January 2016 20: 11 New
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        The UAE can afford to buy at least Lamborghini in rhinestones for transportation of guards, pontoreza. The Indians have a strong, and most importantly, a fighting army. Why do they need such hemorrhoids, it is not clear.
  5. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 25 January 2016 16: 17 New
    +2
    Hindus all twist and stir.
  6. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 25 January 2016 16: 18 New
    +1
    India wants everything from everyone, and for so ... Still those partners ... For everyone ... laughing
  7. Odysseus
    Odysseus 25 January 2016 16: 19 New
    +3
    It weighs cola, we start all over again. By the deal of the Hindus with the Rafals, it is already possible to set the vaudeville.
    1. Altona
      Altona 25 January 2016 16: 23 New
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      Quote: Odyssey
      It weighs cola on the stake, we start all over again.

      ------------------------
      The Third Act of Marlieson Ballet! The first was Mistral, the second Rafal!
  8. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 25 January 2016 16: 20 New
    +1
    The Hindus wear out the French with their tenacity!
  9. Bradypodidae
    Bradypodidae 25 January 2016 16: 21 New
    +4
    It seems that India outwitted itself. There was a tender for 126 fighters, the winner is known, and things are still there.
    But the French are great. At the tender we extended the competitors for the price, set a new price after the victory. And it doesn’t matter that they sell 36 instead of 126. These 36 will be assembled in France, you don’t need to share technologies. And it seems that the French fed someone during the tender sooo high-ranking official, since India is still messing with them.
  10. Altona
    Altona 25 January 2016 16: 22 New
    +1
    Really? Not even a year has passed. Directly waiting for this deal of the century. There, it seems, there are still negotiations on prices going on, greedy Frenchmen are fighting for every cent.
  11. Andrey_Antonov
    Andrey_Antonov 25 January 2016 16: 22 New
    0
    As always, the East is a delicate matter
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 25 January 2016 16: 37 New
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      Quote: Andrey_Antonov
      As always, the East is a delicate matter


      This East is a delicate matter, and India is a matter sewn with white threads. There are politicians who, when concluding deals, think only about the benefits. They do not buy at a loss, they only take a proven product. Indian guys didn’t buy Mistrals in France, they didn’t get their contracts torn off, they were not “frightened” (long ago) warriors.

      This whole comedy can only be played out to get more concessions when signing contracts with other partners. We must be patient and continue to "demonstrate" the high flying qualities of our technology ... The light has come together not only in India ...
      soldier
  12. gregor6549
    gregor6549 25 January 2016 16: 44 New
    +1
    The next step is the suspension of the Brahmos on French aircraft and the transfer of all the technical details of the rocket to the French side, which, without these details, naturally cannot guarantee the Indians the effective integration of the aircraft and the rocket. So "Hindi Rusi Phai Phai" once again turns against Russia, which naively believes in friendship with the next crooks
    1. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 25 January 2016 17: 09 New
      +1
      There are no friends in business - there is a cold calculation: price efficiency, reliability, resource.
  13. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 25 January 2016 16: 47 New
    +1
    It is noted that "as a result of the negotiations, 13 documents were signed - memorandums of understanding - on cooperation in the space, nuclear, cultural, railway and other fields".

    Interestingly, and the Indians did not order a couple of "Mistrals" to complete the picture?
  14. shans2
    shans2 25 January 2016 16: 49 New
    +1
    I am laughed at by this refueling bar on Rafael), an unremovable sticking horseradish))), the review is blocking)
    1. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 25 January 2016 17: 14 New
      +3
      When in the training flight, due to the failure of such a rod on the Su-24, there was no refueling - a combat aircraft was lost as a result of fuel production ...
      Believe the engineer - the simpler - the more reliable ...
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 25 January 2016 18: 24 New
      0
      Yes, you’re right, the French somehow didn’t work. ugly.
      In the F-16 (or F-35), the bar extends when necessary on the back behind the cab.
  15. Const
    Const 25 January 2016 16: 52 New
    -2
    Yes, history teaches us not to learn history. The Mistral scandal was a gift to India.
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  17. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 25 January 2016 16: 54 New
    +4
    After all, the Indians, not Russian, bought these 36 airplanes. The French have outplayed the representatives of our GDP. As one old Jew used to say: "Before the revolution, my dad kept a brothel on Deribasovskaya street. So, when things were going badly for him, he didn't move the bed, he used to change it." (c) Anecdote. BADLY! The bureaucrats did not cope with the Task and did not justify the High Trust shown to them. "Every failure has a name, surname and patronymic" (c) Comrade Beria. Most likely not their place is taken by those traveling on foreign business trips at the state expense.
    1. Altona
      Altona 26 January 2016 22: 15 New
      0
      Quote: chelovektapok
      The French have outplayed the representatives of our GDP. As one old Jew used to say: “Before the revolution, my dad kept a brothel on Deribasovskaya.

      ---------------------
      Nobody outplayed anyone there. Don't you know the background of this deal? India wanted to buy French fighters initially, but since it was not comme il faut without a tender, they made a tender. The French charged prices clearly not for the tender and thwarted the initial deal, they had to start from the beginning and a wider tender, in which everyone, including our MiG, could take part -35. While the oriental bazaar was in progress, Rafal was rapidly outdated. In general, the tender was still won by the French under strong pressure from the Indian military, although you yourself understand a lot of lobbyists got involved in this business, the purchase was supposed to be rather big, about 124-138 aircraft. the version so to speak, in terms of quantity, because 36 aircraft is not serious, having "friends" in the form of Pakistan and China with their good air forces at hand.
  18. newcomer
    newcomer 25 January 2016 17: 00 New
    +4
    for some reason it seems to me that they won’t buy these rafals. they will twist, they will turn and take either our Su30 / 35, or return to our same moment35.
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 25 January 2016 18: 53 New
      0
      It’s to what price the MiG and su with technology should fall below the baseboard!
  19. Greyhound famously
    Greyhound famously 25 January 2016 17: 05 New
    0
    It used to be about 126 cars, but now it’s only 36 ... A mistake, or did the Indians decide to change something?
    1. tunes
      tunes 25 January 2016 19: 03 New
      +1
      The origins of the Indian tender
      "Medium Multi-Purpose Combat Aircraft" (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft, MMRCA)
      http://india-ru.ru/India-14-1.html

      extension
      Pyrrhic victory of the Gauls - http://india-ru.ru/India-14-2.html


      why didn't we win the tender
      Air battle over India - http://india-ru.ru/India-14.html
  20. Zena20298
    Zena20298 25 January 2016 17: 17 New
    -2
    Even if the Indians sign a contract for the supply of these aircraft and even if they pay, it is not at all a fact that they will receive these aircraft ...
  21. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 25 January 2016 17: 22 New
    0
    understanding. it's called that today. Let us sell garbage from the country to you.
  22. Alexez
    Alexez 25 January 2016 17: 38 New
    0
    A memorandum of understanding is not a contract. Again, they will begin to quarrel over the price and conditions, and out of the guise of the Indians will beg for discounts and additional goodies with us. Just easy blackmail

    Well, that's the confirmation))
    http://topwar.ru/89767-smi-rossiya-i-indiya-snizyat-stoimost-proekta-po-razrabot
    ke-istrebitelya-5-go-pokoleniya.html
  23. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 25 January 2016 18: 06 New
    +2
    Quote: Linkor9s21
    if ours had not been hacked with the Su-30MKI (a complaint from the Indians themselves), they would continue to purchase our aircraft


    They (India) should complain about themselves, since most of these aircraft were produced by their own company, which did not provide adequate maintenance and spare parts for this fleet.
  24. samoletil18
    samoletil18 25 January 2016 18: 59 New
    0
    Prototsigans with paddles fight for their interest. This is clear. It is not clear another. On which figs are the 36 Rafale Indians? But I get it! Either against Nepal, or against Bhutan ... wassat
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 25 January 2016 19: 38 New
      0
      Quote: samoletil18
      This is clear. It is not clear another. On which figs are the 36 Rafale Indians?

      Initially, 126 aircraft with technology transfer were announced. The point is to get a fighter with a small ESR and working well on the ground.
      But why do they need 36 aircraft without technology transfer? This is already a great mystery. smile
  25. tunes
    tunes 25 January 2016 19: 02 New
    0
    The origins of the Indian tender
    "Medium Multi-Purpose Combat Aircraft" (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft, MMRCA)
    http://india-ru.ru/India-14-1.html

    extension
    Pyrrhic victory of the Gauls - http://india-ru.ru/India-14-2.html


    why didn't we win the tender
    Air battle over India - http://india-ru.ru/India-14.html
  26. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 25 January 2016 19: 22 New
    0
    The Indian melodrama continues :) There was two hundred and fifty-second episode, and the beautiful India still could not decide if she would give her heart to the courageous Rafal ... Indian songs, dances and the one-eyed villain with a brutal black bandage are attached. Wait for the continuation in another two hundred series !;)
  27. Taygerus
    Taygerus 25 January 2016 20: 05 New
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    Quote: Maksus
    Yes, it is clear for a long time everything with these "friends", they do not need a strong army of their own, but only need material benefits. Just imagine what kind of hemorrhoids the suppliers will have with the purchase of components and ammunition - the Indians will have our equipment, French and their own. Etozh akhtung.


    they already have a full vinaigrette with the equipment, just one fine day the planes will start working (the equipment will fail, moreover, it’s working) and that’s all
  28. Charik
    Charik 26 January 2016 03: 21 New
    0
    and these 36 planes are more expensive than 2 mistral?