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If US Vice President Joe Biden was confirmed in his thoughts about resolving the conflict in Syria by military means, then US Secretary of State John Kerry announced that negotiations, initiative, coordination, and similar positive things that have nothing to do with the war continue. Moreover, Kerry allowed the lifting of sanctions against Russia "in the coming months." How did it happen that two major American politicians started talking about opposite things?




Washington will continue to help Turkey “fight against the Islamic State” and “prevent the creation of a separate state near the southern borders of Turkey,” said US Vice President Joe Biden at a meeting with Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu. Moreover, the USA is ready to resolve the Syrian crisis by military means.

“Yes, we know that it would be better if we succeed in reaching a political solution, but we are ready, if it is impossible, to find a military solution to this operation and destroy IG,” Biden is quoted as saying. "Vesti".

This statement by the US Vice President in Moscow was considered "destructive." “It’s strange to hear these statements against the background of the fact that all countries are searching for a political settlement, and such threats can be simply destructive,” said Interfax unnamed Russian diplomatic source.

A little later, notes Kommersant, The Wall Street Journal correspondent Carol Lee, who was on duty at the vice president’s press pool, citing a White House spokesman who participated in a trip to Turkey, explained Biden’s statement. According to her, the vice-president wanted to emphasize the intentions of the United States to seek "to complete with the help of political means the civil war in Syria in the broad sense of the word" and "simultaneously use a military solution against the" IS ".

"BBC" gives other "explanations" of the White House about the statements of Biden.

The White House explained, the television and radio company points out that the vice-president’s words about a political decision related to peace negotiations between the Syrian authorities and the rebels; The statement about the military decision concerned only the "IG".

"BBC" recalls that this week should be held negotiations with the participation of representatives of the Syrian authorities and the opposition under the auspices of the UN.

While the White House was “deciphering” Joe Biden’s difficult press statements, the US Secretary of State was talking about peace and negotiations.

As transmitted RIA News"The day of the beginning of the inter-Syrian negotiations in Geneva has not yet been determined, but they can take place within a few days if there is an initiative. About this in Riyadh, said US Foreign Secretary John Kerry.

"We are confident that with a good initiative, these negotiations can take place within a few days," Kerry told reporters after meeting with representatives of the states of the Gulf Cooperation Council.

Thus, a kind of contradiction arose between the “belligerent” statements of Biden and the speeches of John Kerry, who was waiting for a “good initiative” and the beginning of peaceful inter-Syrian talks in Geneva.

Moreover, earlier the state secretary even spoke about the possible lifting of sanctions against Russia.

January 22 on the agency website Reuters appeared news under the heading " In general terms, this means that the “bona fide” implementation of the Minsk agreements by Russia and Ukraine may lead to the lifting of sanctions against Russia.

The text states that with the conscientious efforts of "both sides" and the implementation of the Minsk agreements in the coming months, sanctions against Russia could be lifted.

This Kerry said, speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos. According to him, he (Kerry) and US Vice President Joe Biden met at the Swiss resort with Petro Poroshenko and spoke on the implementation of clauses of agreements.

In addition to Kerry, let us add to this, NATO is preparing to improve relations with Russia. And, quite surprisingly, the American senator Marco Rubio, who earlier called Putin "a gangster," now also set out to "look for ways to improve relations" with Moscow.

Chairman of the NATO Military Committee Czech General Peter Pavel (Czech Army Gen. Petr Pavel) "The Wall Street Journal" stated that Moscow rejects the alliance’s attempts to establish a dialogue. He told this to the correspondent at the end of the meeting of the NATO generals in Brussels.

Peter Pavel said that the majority of alliance states are looking for a “middle ground” in relations with Russia, which also provides for interaction, despite the strengthening of the presence of NATO in the Baltic States and in Poland.

Since Russia “respects” primarily “strength and power,” the alliance should “develop its own approach,” based on “a combination of deterrence and interaction,” the general explained.

Meanwhile, the American news site "BuzzFeedNews" published new theses of Senator Marc Rubio.

If only recently, Rubio called for isolating Russia, proposed tightening sanctions, and also called Vladimir Putin a "gangster", now the senator suddenly showed a peacefulness and recognized the need for political detente.

“We have no choice but to meet each other in order to find ways to improve relations,” said Rubio on a radio station in New Hampshire. The senator explained the lack of "choice" by the fact that the United States and the Russian Federation are in the arsenals of "90% of nuclear warheads on Earth." That is why it is necessary to "negotiate".

In addition, Rubio attended the troubles of the Russian people. He said that the Americans "did not quarrel with the Russian people," but Putin "causes significant damage to the Russian economy."

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We assume that the old Joe made a reservation about the "military solution" in Syria. As is often the case with representatives of the White House, it was “not so” understood by journalists. Or understood “so”, but to perfection of style and intonation Biden is very far away. And the people specially hired by the White House explain to the public over and over again that she (the public) heard one thing, and the other was meant.

An isolated US military operation in Syria without coordination with the Russian operation would inevitably lead to incidents. And talk of this kind of "decision" is particularly inappropriate now, when American politicians and NATO generals rushed to look for ways to "improve relations" and "interaction" with Moscow.

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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 January 2016 06: 08
    +7
    In politics, everything is simple.
    1. He said.
    2. I looked at the reaction: who, what, how, to whom.
    3. I came up with an excuse.
    4. With clean, honest eyes, you explain to everyone that they are fools and do not understand basic things.
    And "bend your line" yourself
    1. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 26 January 2016 15: 39
      +1
      They lie like breathing!
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 January 2016 06: 14
    +6
    Moreover, earlier the state secretary even spoke about the possible lifting of sanctions against Russia.


    Hello Oleg.
    Indeed, Kerry stated this. But I don’t think it’s worth believing this merikatic weather vane. With the same ease, he will turn everything upside down. Such they are - meritic politicians.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 26 January 2016 06: 22
    +6
    Moreover, Kerry allowed the lifting of sanctions against Russia "in the coming months."

    Washington allows sanctions to be lifted
    Paris admits ..
    Brussels admits ...
    I admit..
    who else forgot to list ...
    puns ... smile Well, like children .. and such serious uncles in appearance.
  4. Riv
    Riv 26 January 2016 06: 27
    +4
    I think the reason for this disagreement is that American politicians have forgotten how to plan for the long term. The maximum that the brain's capabilities are enough is six months. And if we add to this the typical American egocentrism, then the result is obvious. Actually, the same Carrie even can not imagine the consequences of his own words.

    Miss Psaki ...
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 26 January 2016 06: 36
    +4
    Washington will continue to assist Turkey in the “fight against the Islamic State” and “prevent the creation of a separate state near the southern borders of Turkey,” said US Vice President Joe Biden at a meeting with Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu.... In other words, we will continue to help Turkey support the IG ....
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 27 January 2016 22: 22
      +1
      Once foreign correspondents asked Stalin:
      - Why is Mount Ararat depicted on the coat of arms of Armenia, because it is not located on the territory of Armenia?
      Stalin replied:
      - The crescent moon is depicted on the coat of arms of Turkey, but it is also not located in Turkey



      A source:
      http://fishki.net/1814918-20-ubojnyh-shutok-ot-iosifa-stalina.html?from=smi2

      Nevertheless, injustice must be corrected.
      Ararat should be with Armenia.
  6. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 26 January 2016 06: 46
    +4
    Biden will retire and confess everything. [Media = http: //my.mail.ru/bk/sibcryo/video/_myvideo/275.ht
    ml]
  7. Barboskin
    Barboskin 26 January 2016 07: 02
    +3
    You never know what Tony said. This is the Anglo-Saxons! Remember the cancellation of the amendment and the simultaneous introduction of the Magnitsky list. All this blah blah blah. One is canceled in order to enter the same only under a different name.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 January 2016 07: 06
    +4
    While the White House was “deciphering” Joe Biden’s difficult press statements, the US Secretary of State was talking about peace and negotiations.

    In order not to have to "decipher" a statement of such a rank, it is simply necessary to prepare for your speech (in other words, to "follow the market"). And the inconsistency in the statements of American high officials is constantly observed. They even have a president in one of his speech can express several opposite and mutually exclusive "thoughts".
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 26 January 2016 10: 55
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In order not to have to "decipher" a statement of such a rank, it is simply necessary to prepare for your speech (in other words, to "follow the market"). And the inconsistency in the statements of American high officials is constantly observed. They even have a president in one of his speech can express several opposite and mutually exclusive "thoughts".


      The United States has made a lie with its official policy and, in order to achieve its goal, goes to any falsification and provocation ..
  9. inkass_98
    inkass_98 26 January 2016 07: 08
    +4
    "Collective unconscious" - everything you need to know about the West's policy towards the Russian Federation. Or, alternatively, "Swan, Cancer and Pike" as presented by Krylov's grandfather.
  10. 1536
    1536 26 January 2016 07: 20
    +3
    What Biden thinks that this oglu should not worry anyone. Because if they start a war, the Syrians will transfer it to US territory. Assad still, in my opinion, in the 2011 year said this directly and openly. That’s why they hate him fiercely.
    And if Biden starts a war with us, well, the targets in the US are selected. As the saying goes, "space maps are loaded into rockets." It is only necessary that this gang in Washington firmly know that we will answer. The greasy Nulland and this gout will quickly reduce the tone. Otherwise, one gets the impression that they think that we will not answer them blow for blow. Even the company was deployed, which, well, of course, after all, no one will use nuclear weapons.
  11. valokordin
    valokordin 26 January 2016 07: 53
    +2
    The abolition of ssanctions against Russia is the same abolition of the Jackson-Venik amendment. Let these ssanctions remain, but the fact that 1.5 trillion dollars have been pumped out of Russia lately, a little less than from China is the fault of the bankrupt government and their financial tycoons. Here you have the rating.
  12. Telemon
    Telemon 26 January 2016 08: 12
    +1
    Hello! When there is no agreement in the comrades, they will not be lucky. wink And to us that is positive!
  13. Zomanus
    Zomanus 26 January 2016 08: 17
    +3
    How many Johnson-Venik amendments were removed from us?
    So, at the expense of sanctions, I would not be deceived.
    But the fact that the Americans are setting up a base near Syria,
    this is serious. Because soon there will be
    Syrian troops and the Americans may begin to harm them.
  14. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 26 January 2016 08: 44
    +1
    If I understand correctly, both of them (Biden and Kerry) will lose their powers at the end of the year; that’s what they want. They say what their counterparts want to hear.

    In warlike Turkey, Biden sweetened the pill with a military solution to the Syrian issue.
    Kerry outlined a lying temptation for Russia - he would suddenly behave and surrender to someone (Assad or LDNR).
  15. Belousov
    Belousov 26 January 2016 09: 37
    0
    "A detached US military operation in Syria without coordination with the Russian operation would inevitably lead to incidents."
    Wouldn't. Alas, but we’ll wake up and collapse when the coalition ground operation begins there. Otherwise, they would have reacted differently to all these dispatches of German and other units. The purpose of these ground units is not to confront ISIS, but to protect American and Saudi-Qatari investments, we will not bomb our "partners", which will allow the militants to rest and replenish. In addition, something tells me that these ground units will operate in the most delicious directions - near the border with Turkey, near oil fields, etc.
  16. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 26 January 2016 09: 43
    0
    Jackals of a feather, hyenas of rotary machines ...
  17. triglav
    triglav 26 January 2016 10: 28
    0
    We assume that old Joe made a slip about the “military solution” in Syria


    Old Joe is an old senile, completely forgetting that the United States is no longer a superpower. Yes, it is difficult for Russia alone (in Europe, as in general in the world, we have practically no friends). But the combat effectiveness of the allies of the state (Army and Navy) is growing day by day. And do not pretend here that everything is bad. It's not that bad. as it seems uninitiated. And our media need to increase pressure on readers in Europe and the United States. And for this they must act as a united front. Therefore, it is necessary to strangle the media of the fifth column. We all know very well who they are.
  18. misterwulf
    misterwulf 26 January 2016 10: 54
    0
    Since Russia “respects” primarily “strength and power,” the alliance should “develop its own approach,” based on “a combination of deterrence and interaction,” the general explained.


    The Czech general sounds funny already. Especially for those who love the work of Yaroslav Hasek (Schweik). wassat
    This dude doesn’t know that Russia in general has never respected anyone for this? Now we respect China, India, but not for that.
    Rare cases, when imbued with respect for aggressive military powers, always ended badly. (Napoleonic France, Entente England and France, Hitler Germany, Reagan USA).

    Kerry - actually fought in Vietnam and (a kind of) "hero of his time" when he led the "Vietnamese" riots to end the war. He knows that it is on his own skin. And Biden is a huckster, to whom give our MSL (sapper's shovel) into his hands and he will not know what it is and what it is for. And how it can be used.
  19. Lelek
    Lelek 26 January 2016 11: 08
    +1
    (Since Russia “respects” primarily “power and authority,” the alliance should “develop its own approach,” based on a “combination of deterrence and interaction,” the general explained.)

    What is this "combination"?
    Peter Paul is clearly "beguiled the Ramses." Russia is not his vassal, over whom he has "power", and not Lithuania or Poland, which he can coerce "by force." And in general, the rantings of NATO officials in relation to our country are empty blah-blah to maintain their own pants.
    In addition, these bureaucrats should remember that the patience of the spring is not infinite. Do not be angry or provoke us.
  20. The gentleman
    The gentleman 26 January 2016 11: 14
    +1
    too many aggressive expressions began to come from the leadership of the states. and this is no longer a reservation, but a frank desire to start a war. The stupidity of a country that sees itself beyond its nose can lead to self-destruction.
  21. DenZ
    DenZ 26 January 2016 12: 05
    +1
    Americans themselves do not understand what they are carrying. They have elections there soon, and this is precisely the period when someone wants something and says (democracy attack) Biden for the war Kerry is ready to back down. Trump in general for friendship with Russia. All this is seen as temporary, before the elections are held and everyone takes their seats. There we’ll see how the cards will fall and who will say what.
  22. Belarus
    Belarus 26 January 2016 14: 21
    0
    Whatever the Americans say by the method of resolving the war in Syria, everything will be reduced to one person - Assad.
    This shows even a slight difference in methods. For example, a list of those who will be considered terrorist organizations and who are not is not defined. And there are very big disagreements on this issue.

    Regarding the lifting of sanctions, this is generally complete nonsense and carrot for idiots, especially when it sounds from the lips of those who shed the most blood on the planet and lied more than anyone, they lie and will lie.Some sanctions were canceled and others were immediately introduced, and for this it doesn’t matter.

    America will backtrack only if it threatens the very existence of the state as such in economic or military terms (in the military it is very unlikely). Americans like that chameleon that changes color; Americans also change their methods to achieve the goal.

    So trust them not to respect themselves. I am amused when the Americans say something that is necessary for Russia, then the Russian media speak and boldly refer to them (American media) and when not, you listen to the Russian media say that they all lie. We would have decided to believe or not and by what media.
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 26 January 2016 16: 50
    0
    And I like that the people who started the war in the country are going to solve the Syrian issue.
    If Hitler had resolved his question with the USSR at will, we would all have burned in the ovens of Majdanek.
    Bravo!
    Now the times have come, trying on once the mask of a peacemaker killers become benefactors!
  24. misterwulf
    misterwulf 26 January 2016 19: 01
    0
    A m. "Maxim" = Obama imagines himself the new Roosevelt, who was not re-elected in connection with WW2, but remained in office again until he died?
    Thinking out loud...
  25. DedaSascha
    DedaSascha 26 January 2016 22: 20
    0
    Everything is simple. One is going to fight, and the other covers him like: "Oh, what are you! Do not believe him." And under the guise of doing their dirty work.