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Why did Kiev withdraw its officers from the JCCC in the Donbass?

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The deputy commander of the corps of the Ministry of Defense of the Donetsk People's Republic, Edward Basurin, made a statement in which he expressed his thoughts on the frequent attacks on the territory of the republic by the Ukrainian security forces. According to Basurin, the frequent shelling suggests that the Ukrainian military are testing the ground, preparing another offensive against the DPR. Only in the past day, the Ukrainian security forces violated a truce at least 10 times, firing 88 shells and mines of various sizes.


Why did Kiev withdraw its officers from the JCCC in the Donbass?


RIA News cites a fragment of the statement of Colonel Basurin:
Attacks are no longer provocative, and this is preparation for a large-scale offensive. Because the withdrawal of Ukrainian STsKK officers, who have been here since last year, can speak about this. They (the Ukrainian side) removed all their representatives in the JCCC in the territory of the DPR, with the exception of the southern direction. Their representatives in the JCCC remained only in the south. From other places of the DPR they were taken.


Donetsk News Agency, referring to the DPR intelligence data, publishes a material stating that artillery depots in the city of Balakley in the Kharkiv region started loading a large amount of ammunition for subsequent shipment to the Donbass. It is noted that about 500 people are involved in loading operations.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 25 January 2016 07: 13
    21
    According to Basurin, the increased shelling suggests that the Ukrainian military is probing the soil, preparing another attack on the DPR.


    As I understand it, KIEV and WASHINGTON are waiting for a favorable moment for this offensive ...
    Having confused the leadership of the DPR and LPR as well as the KREMLIN with various negotiations and agreements that they are not going to implement,
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine counts with one powerful blow to dissect the republics to reach the border with RUSSIA and end the blitzkrieg by destroying the army of militias and blocking access to it from Russia.

    Dreaming is not bad for KIEV .... dream.
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 25 January 2016 07: 38
      +2
      The shelling is no longer provocative, but it’s preparation for large-scale offensive.
      I completely agree. Soon spring, soon bastards will climb! This is seen throughout.
      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma 25 January 2016 09: 15
        +7
        Quote: Dembel 77
        Spring is coming, climbing soon

        They will not climb in the spring - if you do not knead the finished mud ... Either "cold" or "dry", otherwise the use of equipment (wheeled / tracked) is problematic outside paved roads, especially in spring, when thawed soil has the highest humidity. There is a lot of snow this year ...
        For example, in Lugansk, Donetsk and at the Debaltseve station, the thickness of snow cover reached 20 centimeters per day.
    2. Sober
      Sober 25 January 2016 07: 45
      14
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Having confused the head of the leadership of the DPR and LPR and the Kremlin

      nobody messed up anyone. There is a policy. Each state conducts it, depending on the circumstances, the capabilities of all parties, including its own, and its experience and wisdom. They don’t sleep there, they are looking for ways to do another muck. But the last Soviet KGB does not sleep. And how it all ends, only God knows.
      1. Al_oriso
        Al_oriso 25 January 2016 09: 20
        +4
        Quote: Sober
        And how it all ends, only God knows.

        Just everyone knows. If Kiev decides on a new offensive, then this will be his last offensive.
  2. bronik
    bronik 25 January 2016 07: 20
    +2
    Surely Kuev would dare to start military operations against the will of the USCA? Yes, not in vain, only on their orders.
    1. Senior manager
      Senior manager 25 January 2016 09: 28
      +1
      bronik / So maybe the order has already been received, just not published.
  3. sl22277
    sl22277 25 January 2016 07: 22
    +4
    Apparently, an offensive, or an awesome provocation, is being prepared .. In the calculation, provoke LDNR into a conflict to free its hands. And in order to achieve its goals, the Ukrainian Junta will do everything: to shell civilians, to invade the cities military, to lie and slander in the media. The most interesting thing is that Western countries fully support them in this ....
    1. tux
      tux 25 January 2016 08: 27
      +5
      Quote: sl22277
      The most interesting thing is that Western countries fully support them in this ....

      And what is there to be surprised if the junta is their project?
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 25 January 2016 12: 01
      0
      The most interesting thing is that the Western countries fully support them in this ... ,,
      it's not interesting, but just a fact. Americans rule, I think looking at the situation, they will act.
  4. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 25 January 2016 07: 22
    +7
    Maybe the withdrawn officers took up their full-time positions in the Ukrainian army (directly in the headquarters and forward detachments)? They will use the obtained intelligence to the maximum. Here and all the benefits of these commissions and inspections of the peace settlement.
  5. Pig
    Pig 25 January 2016 07: 24
    +7
    what "offensive"? I bet there will be no offensive ... about the "offensive" they don't tell everyone they meet and cross - if the ATO speakers are talking about the "offensive" then ...
    ordinary ukrozamanuha - proE ... is it all that is possible and now they are making formidable statements ...
    there will be shelling, provocation, sabotage, killing from = around the corner - this is what Khokhlovoins do best ...
  6. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 25 January 2016 07: 26
    +3
    Quote: bronik
    Surely Kuev would dare to start military operations against the will of the USCA? Yes, not in vain, only on their orders.

    And who said that against the will of the United States. It seems to me the dates of the new offensive have long been given to them.
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 25 January 2016 07: 36
      +4
      Maybe not against the will, but with tacit connivance. Perhaps the United States is looking for an excuse to get out of a lost game without losing face ... and so, they started-lost, we are to blame, we have nothing to do with it.
      This option still makes it possible to dump all subsequent expenses on Russia ... because after all, nobody will agree to restore what remains of the outskirts.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 25 January 2016 08: 47
        +4
        This is the most realistic forecast. As with Georgia on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX
  7. podgornovea
    podgornovea 25 January 2016 07: 28
    +2
    And what does STSKK mean - Selenginsky Pulp and Cardboard Mill? :)
    1. anfil
      anfil 25 January 2016 08: 02
      +3
      Quote: podgornovea
      And what does STSKK mean - Selenginsky Pulp and Cardboard Mill? :)

      Joint Center for Monitoring and Coordination (JCCC)
  8. guznorodov
    guznorodov 25 January 2016 07: 30
    0
    Poroshenko needs tension only so that they would not forget about him. Like do not give money, I will unleash another slaughter and current further. And the DNI is beneficial so that this crisis is also faster to resolve and get at least some sort of legal basis for existence.
    1. Beaver
      Beaver 25 January 2016 09: 27
      +3
      Quote: guznorodov
      don't give money I will unleash another slaughter

      I'm afraid it's just the opposite. Stop the slaughter - don’t count on money anymore. sad
  9. f, hfrjlf, hf
    f, hfrjlf, hf 25 January 2016 07: 31
    +2
    I, too, didn’t understand what the SCCC is like if it is a central hostel (everyone knows what a central hostel is central storage)
  10. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 25 January 2016 07: 32
    +2
    They brought them out so that the high school students and national bats didn’t soak them up! But whether there will be an offensive or not depends on whether Europe is able to force Russia to give control of the border back to Kiev.
  11. askort154
    askort154 25 January 2016 07: 38
    +5
    The date of the coup is approaching (February 22). We must wait for another provocation.
  12. Same lech
    Same lech 25 January 2016 07: 42
    +3
    what "offensive"? I bet there will be no offensive ... about the "offensive" is not told to everyone oncoming and sideways

    There is such a parable ...

    Shepherd
    Once a cowherd boy grazed sheep, and lumberjacks worked nearby in the forest. The boy decided to play a trick on adults and suddenly began to shout: “Wolves! Wolves! Help!". Lumberjacks immediately rushed to his aid, leaving their work. But there was no wolf! The boy liked the successful rally.
    The next day, the shepherd decided to repeat his joke and again began to shout “Wolves!” and call for help. The lumberjacks again abandoned their work and rushed to the rescue. But the wolf was not there again. The lumberjacks scolded the boy and left. The shepherdess was very pleased with his funny invention - not everyone manages to act like that for adults, and even twice in a row!
    Somehow wolves really attacked the flock. There was a whole flock of them. One shepherd cannot handle it! Need to call for help! The boy began to shout: “Wolves! Wolves! Help! ”, But the lumberjacks thought that he was deceiving them again and this time did not come to the rescue.
    The wolves slaughtered half a herd, and even the shepherd himself - miraculously survived.


    So do not jinx it.
  13. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 25 January 2016 07: 43
    +3
    It seems that under any circumstances Kiev will not abandon its attempts to take "revenge", even with the alleged observance of the Minsk agreements. There will be militants constantly fighting. Therefore, in principle, there are only two options: starve out constantly defending themselves, waiting for a change of regime, or destroy the entire Kiev hive ...
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 January 2016 07: 44
    +3
    It seems to me that there will be no large-scale offensive, but a major provocation is necessary. But this is my opinion, but what Biden knows in the frostbitten head.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 25 January 2016 12: 01
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It seems to me that there will be no large-scale offensive, but a major provocation is necessary.


      The main Kiev godfather the other day cheated on a denyuzhku in the overseas, this handout will quickly and quickly be scattered in the pockets, and to account for the expense they will arrange a few pushers. But the "drunk" of the Kiev "head" can do something big with the warming weather.
      (cry.)
  15. sgr291158
    sgr291158 25 January 2016 07: 54
    +2
    Intensively scum prepare.
  16. Leprekon
    Leprekon 25 January 2016 07: 59
    +8
    Already developed a certain algorithm. First, Parasha runs to Biden and Nuland, or they try to take revenge, then get another snot and run gallop again, but to Merkel and Hollande - for a new Minsk agreement. Let's hope that he will not run to Minsk-3!
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 25 January 2016 08: 10
      +8
      Quote: Leprechaun
      . Let's hope that he will not run to Minsk-3!

      Let's hope for Kiev-1, Minsk is already enough, there is no sense in this. hi
  17. BOB044
    BOB044 25 January 2016 08: 00
    +3

    The Donetsk news agency, citing intelligence from the DNI, publishes material that says that artillery depots in the city of Balakliya in the Kharkiv region began loading a large amount of ammunition for subsequent shipment to Donbass. It is noted that about 500 people are involved in loading operations.
    This is the goal that should be destroyed. How many lives of civilians would be buried.
  18. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 25 January 2016 08: 14
    0
    I think that from a couple of volleys of artillery on adversaries we will not be impoverished.
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus 25 January 2016 08: 27
    +2
    It seems to me that the date of the offensive will be tied to the date of issuance / non-issuance of the tranche of the IMF.
    But in any case, no one will just pull up troops and ammunition.
  20. V.ic
    V.ic 25 January 2016 08: 28
    +3
    The Donetsk news agency, referring to DNR intelligence data, publishes a material that says that it has begun in the artillery warehouses in the city of Balakliya in the Kharkiv region loading a large quantity of ammunition for the purpose of subsequent shipment to Donbass. It is noted that about 500 people are involved in loading operations.

    And what, have forgotten how to mine? Ilya G. would have been quietly surprised and reproachfully shook his gray head ...
  21. shelva
    shelva 25 January 2016 08: 30
    +2
    An unfinished enemy is a constant problem.
  22. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 25 January 2016 08: 30
    +1
    How does Voentorg at least assess intelligence adequately, or has it completely calmed down behind the "Minsk-2"?
  23. kapitan92
    kapitan92 25 January 2016 08: 35
    +4
    ...... except for the south.
    It is likely that thanks to the "help" of the withdrawn officers, the necessary information about the armed forces of the DPR and LPR, the composition and locations of deployment was collected. OSCE inspectors "help" whenever possible.
    Khokhlov is more worrying about the Mariupol direction (south). He was called strategic in the Genshab of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The Ukrainian delegation by all means delays the implementation of the Minsk agreements.
    A simple analysis of the situation shows that a leap year 2016 will be extremely difficult for the DPR and LPR, if not decisive.
  24. JonnyT
    JonnyT 25 January 2016 08: 43
    +1
    Shcha in Syria will be frozen and thawed again in the Donbass.
    And no one will wait for spring. February March
  25. Egoza
    Egoza 25 January 2016 08: 43
    +6
    Now there is a general flu in the APU, there are outbreaks of meningitis, and naturally, they are already talking about Russian bacteriological weapons. BUT, and inside Kiev, not everything is calm. The days of the right-wingers were evicted ...
    On December 21, the so-called Right Sector activists thundered out of the Dnepr Hotel, one of the capital’s best hotels. As it turned out, patriotic jumpers illegally occupied the entire sixth floor of the institution since December 2013. There could be no talk of any living expenses, the neo-Nazis seized the premises by force, and any attempts by the administration to evict inadequate clients were suppressed by people's deputies, who invariably spoke on the side of "ardent patriots." to the street and ensure for the first time the safety of staff.

    And even though PS has disowned them (no one wants to pay 12 lemons for them), but just these ... they won’t leave. So to cover the internal showdowns, an attack in the ATO will be VERY necessary.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 25 January 2016 08: 51
      +4
      So to cover the internal showdowns, an attack in the ATO will be VERY necessary.

      This is true, somewhere to dispose of BAYDEN all this waste slag must be the same .... they will drive them to the new DRANG Nakh Osten.
  26. Warm Padded Jacket
    Warm Padded Jacket 25 January 2016 08: 56
    +2
    if there is an offensive, I hope it will be the last and deadly for the Phasington-Bender scum
  27. Taygerus
    Taygerus 25 January 2016 08: 59
    +4
    Once again, the bastards are preparing a blood bath, including for their binders, what kind of people or are they not human?
  28. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 25 January 2016 09: 00
    +2
    Everyone understood perfectly well that the dill would not calm down, although the truce took place precisely on their "initiative." Now you should not hope that it will be quiet in Donbass until spring, Parashka was not in vain in Davos, and the audience there was on Russia, how the devil reacts to incense, the junta will receive a signal from the owners and ...... You need to prepare!
  29. ivanych
    ivanych 25 January 2016 09: 03
    +2
    ...everything is very simple. elections are coming soon in Donbass, so they stir.
  30. MKP
    MKP 25 January 2016 09: 20
    +2
    Exactly, at the same time they will earn money.
  31. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 25 January 2016 09: 35
    +2
    Most likely dill will not be the first to climb. Resonance around the world is also afraid. They will shit constantly, provoking Novorossiya to perform, so that later, screaming "help, they are killing!" Will rush around the world in search of help and subsidies.
  32. atamankko
    atamankko 25 January 2016 10: 07
    +3
    The EU has played out with tolerance, and will play out with Bandera.
  33. O. Bender
    O. Bender 25 January 2016 10: 29
    +2
    They will come up or have nothing to guess. The task is to be prepared for the worst course of events. It’s interesting from our satellites to monitor the deployment. Where to look at it.
  34. Ros 56
    Ros 56 25 January 2016 11: 50
    0
    Sadly, it’s better to come to some denominator, but through blood, death, but there must be a logical conclusion. Well, you can’t live like that, today they killed two, tomorrow a dozen, and so on to infinity. And if seriously, then no stops, hollow to the end, otherwise everything will happen again.
  35. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 25 January 2016 12: 24
    +1
    I wonder how the inhabitants of the country 404 have not yet lifted it
  36. RUSS
    RUSS 25 January 2016 19: 53
    0
    Basurin every week as a blueprint says the same thing - "Kiev is preparing for the offensive."
  37. Don Cesar
    Don Cesar 25 January 2016 22: 05
    -2
    according to rumors, we expect the 29th, although everyone is ready ...
  38. Normal ok
    Normal ok 26 January 2016 00: 37
    0
    Quote: RUSS
    Basurin every week as a blueprint says the same thing - "Kiev is preparing for the offensive."

    It has been saying the same thing for a year now. At VO, such an article is reprinted every month. This is not even a carbon copy. This is a printer.