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"About poor Russia, put in the word" -1. How did we get to such a life.

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"About poor Russia, put in the word" -1. How did we get to such a life.



Opponents constantly reproach me that I talk a lot about the state and prospects of the world economy, but I completely ignore what is happening directly in our country. Saying, therefore, I am silent, saying that something good will not work, and burying the dollar and the global financial system is much more pleasant than digging into a native, foul-smelling heap of manure.

I thought about it and decided to correct this “flaw”. But I’m afraid I’ll disappoint at the same time the note-taking liberal alarmists and the stubborn hurray-patriots. Nothing to shout “fsёpropala” in Russia does not happen. Neither is there anything that could be immediately lifted to the flag and waving it in all directions, happily yelling about the victory over the "World Serpent." First of all, because a substantial part of our economy has been created by this very “Serpent”, and therefore it is ill with it. And you should not panic because when the smoke and dust from the collapsing building of the world economy settles, and the reality manifests itself in all its glory, it will immediately become clear that those who are able to live independently will be in a better position, as well as can offer the neighbors something vital they need. And Russia will inevitably be among those lucky ones. True, we will evaluate it from new positions. From today everything will be much darker than it seems even to today's "fsopropalschik."

To begin with, I allow myself a little light banter to, so to speak, tune the reader to one wave with the author.

Right now, everyone around is shouting about the ruble's untimely death, daily shaking the air by the announcement of the new anti-record of its course against the immortal dollar. The main question here is not even that such perverted masochism is heard in these screams. Like “let it be worse for me myself, but I was right, the ruble is falling, falling, falling !!!”. Well, on this basis, further, an uncontrollable fantasy rages on how soon Russian power will fall, having been unable to provide “respected” citizens with a regular portion of jamon and parmesan. But let's take a look at the situation from the point of view of a simple man in the street. Yes, some of it, the one that used to spend holidays in Turkey, Egypt and Thailand, the current rate of evergreen is not happy. Expensive, even too much, it became to maintain the usual lifestyle. However, the issue with Turkey and Egypt temporarily disappeared by itself and not because of the rabid dollar. But much more than this man in the street really cares about another question, namely, what happens to prices in stores. But there is nothing concrete about this except “prices are going up at a frantic pace” and they are not heard. And all because prices, in fact, are rising, but not so often and not as clearly as a dollar, and because to take them into account it is necessary to put a lot of effort. In the shops to walk, prices to track, a long time to watch. And this is work. And for the cries about the death of the ruble, nothing like that is necessary. It is convenient to sit on the couch and open the Internet.

At the same time, prices are rising, but at a completely different pace to cause horror in the reader. And even this is not so obvious. Prices are very different. It always amazed me why the same product of the same manufacturer in different stores should differ by 50 or more percent. And if earlier, when in absolute terms it was insignificant, I bought there, where it was not too lazy to call in, now I have chosen the places where the seller’s appetite looks the most moderate. As a result, not so much to spend and become more. I will come back to this topic, but for now.

Since the loudest screaming about the suicide of the Russian economy are those who have pinched the causal place the most, it would be a good idea to take a closer look, and who is actually such. Take a look at history. Over the past 25 years, Russia, speaking in normal language, has not gotten out of the crisis. In 90, this crisis first touched the workers of tens of thousands of industrial enterprises, which the new owners of life easily threw out of work, selling equipment and sometimes even the city-forming factories and enterprises were closed. Or they did not have a crisis? Was, and much worse than this. It’s just that the situation was not assessed by these unfortunate “scoop-losers”, but by the newly-minted speculative merchants and rekiter fraths, for whom the golden time has come. And they didn’t care about miners hammering off the asphalt at the “White House”; they chopped up the loot, admiring the prospects that had opened up.

Almost simultaneously with the workers, the crisis also affected the workers of the entire state administration system. Those who are more smart, still managed to sell to the newly-minted bankers and merchants, solving their problems with the state for a small share. And the rest had to suckle for a long time, or retrain with the dismissed hard workers in “shuttle traders”.

The “blessed” zero arrived, and the massive problems temporarily retreated. Of the brothers, who are smarter and managed to survive, “respectable businessmen and politicians” grew up, the people basically restructured and found a place in the small trading business. The state administration bodies were gradually restored, and the change of priorities from “official under businessman” to “business under official” allowed the employees of these bodies to feel almost like a new elite. There was a huge number of people with money. And along with them appeared the demand for previously exotic services and professions. And hundreds of thousands of enterprising young people, who were not lucky enough to grow up to the era of the “great hapka” and become owners of big business, rushed to conquer profitable and comfortable niches of middle and senior managers. And the country, because of the galloping prices for oil and gas, was bathed in money, paid out earlier accumulated and plundered loans of foreign “investors” at a fast rate and actively bought assets all over the world, regardless of need. Just because I could afford it. There was so much money that they reached practically everyone in various ways. About the pensioners and the disabled somehow, but the state took care.

The rapid growth of wages in business created gigantic demand for various goods and services, forcing small and medium-sized businesses, which satisfied this demand, to grow at the same pace. The lagging behind in the growth rates of salaries officials actively compensated for this lag by bribes and extortion. There was almost no unemployment, in a money-laden new parasitic economy, which didn't produce a damn, but actively consumed, anyone with hands and head could find a place. And everyone decided together that golden times had come. But this period was already the first bell of future troubles.

It must be said that, unlike citizens who are stunned from the “manna of heaven”, the state was already thinking about something at that moment. And behaved, oddly enough, much smarter. At least, financial security was ensured precisely at zero by relieving foreign credit burden, creating a safety cushion in the form of reserves, and stimulating the development of certain strategic sectors. It was in the midst and with the direct support of the state that Russia multiply increased food security, in terms of goods, it turned from an importer into a major exporter of food. The Russian metallurgy and the associated production of higher processing areas were upgraded to a super-modern level. Actively developed the construction industry. That is, while the population was in the euphoria of the “golden rain”, the state imperceptibly enough, but showed a fairly adequate vision of the prospects. But in general, this period was also a crisis. Mentality crisis, if you want. The problem is that a person, regardless of his status and occupation, is structured in such a way that as long as everything goes well, he will not scratch himself. And if it scratches when it detects any problems, it will try to solve them with minimal costs and the easiest way. And the easy way is the one that leads to solving problems and maximizing profit with the least effort. Why invest in production if trade with its fast turnover yields multiple large returns? And financial speculation, and generally allow you to have this profit without getting up from the couch. Why build a company that in far from the best objective conditions will always have competitive disadvantages, if any goods can be brought from abroad? And the extra money is much easier to invest in the construction of shopping centers and in the future only to cut coupons from tenants.

We went this easy way. The whole country and friendly united ranks.

A cold shower swept over the country in 2008, when a massive and consolidated attack on the financial markets tried to rob the country to the ground. Moreover, to rob not ordinary slave traders, but the state and large owners close to it. That is to rob the newly-minted Russian elite. And for the first time the elite felt for themselves a real threat and managed to “cheer up” and survive. She managed to repel the attack, albeit at the cost of substantial expenses, including from the state. At the same time, for the first time since the “catastroika”, this state has managed to significantly increase its share in the country's main financial and economic assets. That is, in fact, to carry out partial nationalization using purely capitalist methods. This again was a crisis, first of all a crisis of the world outlook of the Russian elite. She felt for the first time in her own skin that for the elite of the world is not an equal partner, but food.

This conclusion led to a rather serious split within the elite of our country.

One part, liberal and most of all frightened, is the strengthening of the role of the state and what is possible after this, if not the restoration of a certain version of socialism, then the strengthening of autocratic tendencies in governing the country, came out under the slogan "Katz offers to surrender." In the hope that the world elite will accept them, if not as a full-fledged partner, but at least in the role of Judas, and the 30 silver coins seem to be full-bodied enough to "adequately meet old age."

The second, which did not suit the role of feed for foreign “bumps”, decided to resist and prove to the world elite the full depth of their errors. And she began to actively use for this purpose the rest of the power of the Russian state. Well, and at the same time and gradually remove from the trough of all those who declared defeatist sentiment. So “the best finance minister of all times and peoples” flew out of the cage.

External economic recovery after the failure of 2008-2009 was so fast that it played a very negative role with the majority. All those who did not go bankrupt became confident that any difficulties were temporary and most importantly to endure and endure them. And in fact, in the business itself, nothing fundamentally needs to be changed. But, alas, this was not the only unlearned lesson. The population, which suffered its share of the losses from the crisis, made similar conclusions. And having lost in income, it was absolutely not going to lose in consumption rates. And the banks reached out for consumer loans. In recent years I happened to see a number of small Russian cities with an average salary in 10 thousand rubles and streets full of foreign cars, recruited on credit. Apartments with "Ukroevroremont", obtained in a bonded mortgage, the chance to pay for which there is in principle, regardless of the crisis. This behavior of the inhabitant temporarily revived the domestic trading market and added to its players a good share of self-righteousness about the temporary nature of any difficulties. Is it necessary to blame the banks for what happened? Not sure. They are busy with their business, and to get into a bondage is a voluntary matter. Do I have to blame the trade? Not sure either. If today the profit goes into the hands, is it worth refusing it? And it turns out, no one is particularly to blame, and the result, and even more so the prospects, are such that it is scary to even think about them.
Thank God, the state again behaved much more adequate than its own citizens.

Awareness of external threats forced to reanimate the army and the military industrial complex. This is someone who, and this sector has not felt a worsening of the conjuncture in recent years. Enterprises plow as much as three shifts. And not only to the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, but also for export are selling well. It means that not only they suck from the state, but they also bring a lot to the state.

In parallel with the military industrial complex, a number of major infrastructure projects such as the APEC Summit in Vladivostok, the Universiade in Kazan, the Sochi Olympics, and the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome were launched. “Progressive public” traditionally yells about the immense theft and corruption in the implementation of these projects. And probably partly right. If the whole society is built on “commercial” relations, if the favorite sport of the population is “a run from taxes” and the tax authorities are “hunting for a bribe”, then we should not expect this to be in principle ridiculous. Another thing is that the scale of this phenomenon is clearly exaggerated. And at the same time, the essence of these projects is completely different. To learn by stressing the entire state system and dozens of different privately owned industries to solve global investment and infrastructure problems. Work on implemented management technology projects. I am convinced that all these projects are not a goal, but a school. And the lessons learned in it, oh, how it will be useful in the not very distant future.

In recent years, we have a crisis again. Now the crisis of relations with the West, and at the same time its derivatives. The financial crisis due to the cutting off of our banks from low-interest foreign loans and the gaps in real assets that have emerged from this, the currency crisis due to the need to repay large loans previously collected in a short period of time without the possibility of refinancing. The crisis in the trade related to imports. And even here it’s not so much a matter of sanctions, although in them as well, as in the perfectly justified unpreparedness of business to import foreign exchange goods at current rates due to the multiple sagging demand. And the crisis in a huge number of citizens. Have taken on the chest loans more than they can carry. Those who have lost their job without a chance to find it, because the number of comfortable places in the offices with the task of sorting through papers and drawing beautiful tables and graphs is steadily falling, and more these people do not know how to do anything. In small traders, since an organized business has actively benefited their niche, and the state, which is experiencing a shortage of income, has remembered their existence. There is no crisis only for those whom he touched first - for industrial workers, gradually, albeit at low rates, enterprises being restored.

And in the state, despite the fact that only a lazy person does not predict his quick death and collapse, there is no crisis. See for yourself. The high dollar rate makes it possible to balance the budget in an acceptable framework in the face of a fall in the price of energy. Reducing the need for imports and the almost elimination of mass tourism dramatically reduce the country's need for currency. A certain budget cuts only increase the efficiency of the rest. At the same time, the state is increasingly taking control over one branch of the economy. It is just necessary to understand that everything that exists in the country, including the population, is perceived by the government solely as a resource for fighting on the external front with global competitors. And, wincing, it is necessary to recognize that this is quite an adequate perception of reality.

In the next part of this post we will talk about the nearest and not very promising, but for now a brief summary about the recent history.

1. Since perestroika, Russia has not gotten out of the crisis and is not going to get out yet. The crisis changes forms and manifestations, but remains our constant companion. At different times, different categories of the population and elites suffer from it.

2. There is nothing unusual in what is happening. There is a normal transformation of quite a living organism, which was given several different vaccinations in a row. The body is shaking, it is trying to adapt to the introduced poisons and viruses and develop an antidote and antibodies. And the state in the person of the power shows in comparison with the population in this respect an order of magnitude greater adequacy and correct understanding of the prospects.

3. With all the seeming problems and gloomy prospects, everything that happens is benefiting the country. There is no reason for panic and decadent moods, although the coming changes will affect everyone, most forcing to radically change their usual way of life.

The main thing is that each of us must understand that this time it will not be possible to sit out and endure. There will be no return to what was in 90's or zero. What would be the price of oil in the near or distant future. There will be neither previous relations with the West, nor the West itself in its usual form. There will be endless streams of all sorts of imports, acquired in exchange for oil and gas and allowing, in principle, not to think about the domestic production of anything. There will be no free and long low-interest loans from abroad. Neither from the West nor from the East. There will be no easy, safe and trouble-free trips around the world. And there will not be much of that which has become customary over the past couple of decades. But this does not mean that life ends. But what it will be, let's talk further.
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  1. tuts
    tuts 25 January 2016 06: 29
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    When the Mongols came and said, "Khan you, Russians, we are a horde"
    Russians answered "ANasRat"

    Want to prosper: work
    Want to be the smartest: learn
    Do you want to be the strongest: go to the army

    And listening and believing the next "abroad will help us" is not respecting ourselves ;-)
    1. Riv
      Riv 25 January 2016 07: 11
      15
      Yes, but firstly: not the Mongols, but the Tatars. And secondly: they took Kiev, and Moscow and quite a bit did not reach Italy. So you need to take external threats seriously, and not at the level of puns.
      And by the way, about "learn": this, sadly, does not make a person smarter. Vaughn Gref is also not from a mountain of tears. Studied. And what?
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 25 January 2016 10: 05
        +5
        Yes, but firstly: not the Mongols, but the Tatars.
        ----------------------------------------
        Yes yes, tell me where we came from. And then I, the meager, thought all my life that my ancestors had lived in the Volga region since the tenth century. And we, it turns out, came from somewhere and along the way the Bulgarian kingdom was plundered.: =)
        1. Ursidae
          Ursidae 25 January 2016 10: 57
          -1
          Only probably in the Volga region, after all, not the Tatars, but the Bulgars lived. And then they adopted a common name ...
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 25 January 2016 15: 32
            0
            redraw the picture for red cylinders, gas in barrels is not exported and its prices are not very dependent on oil prices - you are all fooled
        2. Enot-poloskun
          Enot-poloskun 25 January 2016 13: 33
          0
          I agree with the opinion of the author of the article.

          I will add that we need to adopt the slogan: "Everything depends on us."
      2. tomket
        tomket 25 January 2016 10: 13
        10
        Quote: Riv
        There Gref is also not from the mountain of tears. Studied. And what?

        It’s not depressing that another crisis has come; it’s depressing that the bright one with stubbornness worthy of the most rams is holding a government that is constantly being wound up. At the same time, the mantras that the government needs to prepare for the crisis are repeated, the government is satisfied, Kudrin, who is climbing with his advice, has not been ridiculous for a long time. Well, Lenin is to blame for everything (it is very strange that it is not Stalin, apparently Lenin is not sorry, but kicking Stalin’s rating is more expensive). .... and then apparently Rurik will be in line.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 27 January 2016 21: 45
          0
          Quote: tomket
          Well, Lenin is to blame for everything (it is very strange that not Stalin

          Because Stalin is really not to blame for this. I can’t say whether Lenin was the first to put forward the idea of ​​such an absurd division of the state into other states in its composition, but he supported and implemented it. But Stalin was against it.
      3. veksha50
        veksha50 25 January 2016 10: 24
        +5
        Quote: Riv
        There Gref is also not from the mountain of tears. Studied. And what?



        Well, Duc ... I learned how to rob people-country-state ... So call him stupid, illiterate ...
        1. IMHO
          IMHO 27 January 2016 13: 42
          -1
          You can name in power at least ONE honest man who lives on a salary and thinks about Russia, and not about the income of his family and his beloved. Or do you think that people go to power not for personal enrichment? Maybe ... but can I have an example?
      4. Wheel
        Wheel 25 January 2016 11: 02
        +8
        I read the article, rejoiced, jumped with delight ...
        I thought (no, I did it in vain, it’s harmful to think in our country), I immediately got sick of jumping, as well as I was happy.

        What to say about the article?
        The stream of consciousness, you cannot say otherwise.
        Well, nothing else can be expected when the policy of "everything is fine, beautiful marquise" is pursued at the official level.

        I don’t even know if it is worthwhile to disassemble and refute the author in detail, for he who has ears, let him hear, have eyes, let him see who has his head, and try to comprehend.
        But at one point I’ll stop there.
        It was in the zero ones and with the direct support of the state that Russia increased food security many times over, in terms of goods it turned from an importer into a major exporter of food products.
        To smash this mind-building to smithereens, it’s enough to give one picture ... as in the structure of consumption there were 40+% of imports in the 2000th, it remains (still, by the way).
        1. Angry orc
          Angry orc 25 January 2016 11: 33
          +2
          on your schedule 2013 is the last year and I think that a lot has changed over the years)
          1. Wheel
            Wheel 25 January 2016 12: 00
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            Quote: Evil Orc
            on your schedule 2013 is the last year and I think that a lot has changed over the years)

            Alas, it has not changed.
            The structure of import costs remained the same.
            Volumes in monetary terms decreased, proportions remained.
            For example here: http://meatinfo.ru/news/dolya-importnogo-prodovolstviya-v-tovarooborote-pochti-n
            e-izmenilas-351331
        2. tacet
          tacet 25 January 2016 16: 50
          +2
          Do you consider the composition of imported goods, and not just their volume? As I think, growing pineapples with bananas in our conditions is very difficult, unlike, for example, growing a bird or a pig. So, to complete the picture, it is necessary to consider not only the quantitative component, but also the content of imports.
        3. Riv
          Riv 26 January 2016 21: 48
          +1
          Wait a minute, comrade ... Judging by your diagram, the volume of food imports has grown nine-fold over thirteen years. And his share has remained the same. That is, in Russia during this time, people began to eat nine times more, and also began to produce their own products nine times more.

          Have you considered everything well? Sorry, but I have little faith that the population of Russia has grown by almost an order of magnitude over thirteen years.
    2. Dembel77
      Dembel77 25 January 2016 07: 19
      +9
      In general, in the belts we make an additional hole and wait for the manna from heaven? Is there nothing left for us to do? I do not know. As long as there is health and a plot in the garden, we will live - and then what? Another crisis? Yes, we already, it seems, really do from them - these crises never come out - from the beginning of the era of El Tsy Na.
      Just let someone explain to me why Finland, Sweden and the Netherlands live so much better than Russia that they pay extra 1000 euros a month for their citizens just like that ... because there is an excess of money. And what about a crisis-virus infection, do they never get sick? By the way, who cares, there are second and third parts on the account.
      http://chipstone.cont.ws
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 25 January 2016 08: 24
        +6
        Quote: Dembel 77
        that pay their citizens 1000 Euros every month just like that ...

        They still do not pay extra, only the Finns are going to introduce such a practice next year. Then they will stop all social payments and cancel all benefits. Rich western states are no longer socially oriented.
      2. IMHO
        IMHO 27 January 2016 17: 54
        -3
        What kind of crisis are we talking about? There is no way to buy high-quality imported products and rest all over the world? So all around are enemies, America is the enemy, Europe is the henchmen, the rest are vassals. Crimea is also Lada viburnum. They will not go anywhere. And so it turns out some kind of dualism. The whole world is enemies, but we worry that the dollar soared from the euro. We buy Lada Kalina and relax in the Crimea! Nafig we do not need enemy smartphones, Japanese and European cars, the beauty of the Alps, etc. Does the government tell us the same? We are supposedly not licking the butt of anyone .. only who from the government and the president personally moved to domestic cars? WHO bought a house in the Crimea and went to rest there? WHO wears domestic watches and suits?
        Who are these holy people from the government, telling how the mob should rejoice in poverty, and they receive hundreds of thousands of rubles a month and relax in Europe and America, but for an ordinary Russian there is no crisis. What is the crisis with a salary of 20 rubles?
        But after all, many believe that IM is appropriate. The president must live like a king, because he rules and protects us, the unreasonable, and we will tolerate him, if only he and his friends would feel good, otherwise they will suffer ... they will not be allowed to go to Europe .. the poor ..
        Whatever they scold me, I’ll say right away that I am for Putin! I would have made him a king of life!
        If not he, then dark forces will come and destroy everyone. Thank God I live in an era of such a human being !!!!
    3. Mera joota
      Mera joota 25 January 2016 07: 28
      +7
      Oh how positive!
      Quote: tots
      Want to prosper: work

      And if the effort spent on work is not paid enough, and even an increase in the number of working hours does not lead to prosperity?
      Quote: tots
      Want to be the smartest: learn

      Well, for free you can get only secondary and one higher education, how to study further if there are not enough funds?
      Quote: tots
      Do you want to be the strongest: go to the army

      Here it is interesting, where is the relationship? In your opinion, all who served in the army a priori stronger than not serving?
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 25 January 2016 07: 50
        -6
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Mera Joota (1) Today, 07:28 ↑

        Dear Mera Joota, it’s interesting to read you, but try to refer all the same to the article, and not to the comments of others. Then you will be even more interesting to read.
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 25 January 2016 08: 06
          0
          Quote: Dembel 77
          but still try to link to the article,

          See below, with regards to the article itself.
      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 25 January 2016 08: 20
        +4
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Quote: tots
        Want to prosper: work
        And if the effort spent on work is not paid enough, and even an increase in the number of working hours does not lead to prosperity?

        Change the job. Or come to terms with that. that the current is your ceiling.
        Quote: Mera Joota
        doesn't lead to prosperity?
        Quote: tots
        Want to be the smartest: learn
        Well, for free you can get only secondary and one higher education, how to study further if there are not enough funds?

        Actually, one higher should be enough if he made the right decision. Subsequent throwing in choosing a profession - at your own expense.
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Quote: tots
        Do you want to be the strongest: go to the army
        Here it is interesting, where is the relationship? In your opinion, all who served in the army a priori stronger than not serving?

        Morally, yes. Definitely.
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 25 January 2016 08: 40
          +9
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Change the job.

          Now any local employer will widely use the thesis "Crisis", so that the best job can only be found at a foreign company, but they do the bench press there too

          "Actually, one higher education should be enough if you made the right decision. Subsequent throwing in the choice of profession - at your own expense."

          And here there would be some misconception - I got a higher education and that's it, no, now we need to constantly study, development is happening at a faster speed than 30 years ago
        2. Mera joota
          Mera joota 25 January 2016 08: 53
          14
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Change the job. Or come to terms with that. that the current is your ceiling.

          Returning to the situation in the city of Zima, let’s say all the employees of Russian Railways, believing that their work is not paid enough, quit work at the marshalling yard, quit and went to cut down the forest to sell it to China. The movement along the Trans-Siberian Railway got up because there is no one to replace, it is doubtful that a resident of Moscow will go to Eastern Siberia to work for the Russian Railways. What to do?
          Or another option. Employees of the Ministry of Emergencies (firefighters) who delayed their salaries spat on their miserable existence and, after listening to advice, quit for the sake of seeking a better paid job. Who will fight the fires?
          To accept and to drag out a miserable existence means to fall into the category of the "tuts" despised by comrade, and the author of the article. Is it so?
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Actually, one higher should be enough if he made the right decision.

          Well, if IF? If you want to become smarter by gaining knowledge in an additional field?
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Morally, yes. Definitely.

          A guy served with me, after the army he drank himself in the bud, and during the service he was not particularly distinguished by either intelligence or strength. In your opinion, is he clearly stronger morally than those who did not serve?
          Nonsense, the army is just another school of life that you end up with different grades.
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 25 January 2016 10: 52
            0
            Quote: Mera Joota
            Well, if IF? If you want to become smarter by gaining knowledge in an additional field?

            For example, I got to the second highest at the expense of the state. Sovereign service sometimes has some advantages smile
            Quote: Mera Joota
            .. the army is just another school of life that you finish with different grades.

            Trite, but I agree. However, I note that without this school of life, socialization and adaptation is more difficult. Especially in purely male groups.
            1. 2news
              2news 25 January 2016 14: 37
              +1
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              Sovereign service sometimes has some advantages

              Sovereign’s service ended in February 1917. Learn Russian. Twice you were taught at the expense of the people, you haven’t learned elementary.
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          2. 2news
            2news 25 January 2016 14: 40
            -2
            Quote: Mera Joota
            let's say all the employees of Russian Railways, considering that their work is not paid enough, quit work at the marshalling yard, quit and went to cut down the forest to sell it to China. The movement along the Trans-Siberian Railway got up because there is no one to replace, it is doubtful that a resident of Moscow will go to Eastern Siberia to work for the Russian Railways. What to do?

            Go about your business. When you become the head of the sorting station, then you will think about this topic. For a salary.
    4. sherp2015
      sherp2015 25 January 2016 08: 26
      +3
      Quote: tots
      When the Mongols came and said, "Khan you, Russians, we are a horde"
      Russians answered "ANasRat"

      Want to prosper: work
      Want to be the smartest: learn
      Do you want to be the strongest: go to the army

      And listening and believing the next "abroad will help us" is not respecting ourselves ;-)


      But I don’t understand what this lousy dollar does on our Russian streets? Why is it still not removed from circulation, and money changers near the markets openly trade?
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 25 January 2016 08: 45
        +3
        Quote: sherp2015
        But I don’t understand what this lousy dollar does on our Russian streets? Why is it still not removed from circulation, and money changers near the markets openly trade?

        And what does it bother you with? After all, the dollar did not appear as a result of the fact that one private person bought it somewhere in the West and now sells it on the spot, these same dollars were bought either by the Central Bank or commercial banks, then they have already bought and resold them at exchange offices, simply put responding to your righteous anger dollar already supported
    5. Karabin
      Karabin 25 January 2016 09: 26
      +5
      Quote: tots
      Want to prosper: work

      To make money, you have to work. To achieve prosperity, you need to come up with something else. wink
    6. Eragon
      Eragon 25 January 2016 10: 03
      +2
      Quote: tots
      When the Mongols came and said, "Khan you, Russians, we are a horde"
      Russians answered "ANasRat"

      Want to prosper: work
      Want to be the smartest: learn
      Do you want to be the strongest: go to the army

      And listening and believing the next "abroad will help us" is not respecting ourselves ;-)

      drinks hi
      And this applies to everyone. About myself: 2 VO, a former career soldier, in life there were all sorts of things: he was a deputy head of an enterprise, and he dropped almost to a homeless person, and again rose to a deputy head. I worked, lost my mind, took up my mind, work again. Money is not so much the official salary of $ 400, plus 200 hacks. I live in a village, I work in a district town. You can live. Two sons. One has already learned in foreign language (for a fee), the second is studying at the Aviation Akalemia in Minsk (so far it is paid, but the first session is excellent with "automatic machines" fellow , maybe it’ll pop up on the budget). Both work.
  2. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 25 January 2016 06: 34
    13
    With all the apparent problems and gloomy prospects, everything that happens is good for the country. There are no grounds for panic and decadent moods, although the upcoming changes will affect everyone, most of them forcing to radically change their usual way of life.
    Especially for the benefit of the country is its predatory plundering, destruction and sale of forests to China for nothing and the surrender of vast areas of land to the same Chinese until it leases for as much as 50 years immediately ...
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  4. Same lech
    Same lech 25 January 2016 06: 39
    13
    when the smoke and dust from the collapsing building of the global economy settles, and reality appears in all its glory, it will immediately become clear that those who are able to live independently, as well as those who can offer their neighbors something they need, will be in a better position.


    I agree ... in RUSSIA there is everything .. talented people, natural resources, necessary territories.
    But there is one big but ... two troubles ... roads and fools.
    Russia simply needs to get rid of people who claim ...


    that Russia not only lost the competition to other countries, but also underwent “technological enslavement” and ended up on the list of downshifter countries. Because of this, in his opinion, promising personnel are leaving Russia.


    It would be better for us to leave CHUBAIS and GREF ... preferably in the USA so that there hehe he develop the economy that they are now steaming RUSSIA.
    And without them, we somehow get on our feet ... the main thing is not to interfere ... with the next Gaidar reforms.
    Among the liberal economists (Yasin), the Gaidar idea again appeared to arrange the people of the hyperinflation of the 90s.
    1. My address
      My address 25 January 2016 07: 49
      17
      hi , Alexey!

      I will add anecdote:
      The trouble of Russia is not fools. No more of them than in other countries.
      The trouble of Russia is not on the roads. Bad roads are a reason to make them good.
      The trouble of Russia is that the rich can not get drunk! am

      In general, for some time now he began to believe that our social system is extremely reminiscent of feudalism. The main thing is unlimited devotion to the neighbor boyars to the king-father. And the responsibility for the assigned business is empty for them!
      Or, another joke in the subject:
      He places them for devotion, but for intelligence and responsibility.
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 25 January 2016 12: 41
        +3
        Quote: My address
        The trouble of Russia is that the rich can not get drunk!
  5. SSR
    SSR 25 January 2016 06: 40
    +7
    Indeed, much in the world will not be like "yesterday" and this is just life, everything is changing, people's perception and assessment of color also differ, someone will say "crimson, someone is red, someone will call it pink.)))
    In our office, many rush about in Gref’s phrase that Russia is a downshifter country))) and for absolutely mourners, a reference to the German’s opinion ....

    https://russian.rt.com/article/142059

    Ps
    I was worried at the end of 2014, I was very worried in the summer of 2015. It is winter for us (the manufacturing and construction company) a difficult period, but we are all determined to meet this year and Arbeiten Arbayten and also Arbeiten over problems, otherwise we should not become what we should be. )))
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 25 January 2016 07: 02
      13
      Quote: SSR
      In our office, many rush about in Gref’s phrase that Russia is a downshifter country))) and for absolutely mourners, a reference to the German’s opinion ....

      This Gref himself longs for the 90s, because there is his origin and he himself is a downshifter, the only bad thing is that he runs the largest bank, and there are still many of these liberal downshifters in Russia in the government. "The ruin is not in the closets, ruin is in the heads "said Professor Preobrazhensky. hi
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 25 January 2016 13: 01
        +1
        all our debates about crises are an empty lesson, since we are discussing the effect, not the cause.

        And everything has already been written about the reasons a long time ago, for example, a report by I.V. Stalin at the XVI Congress of the CPSU (B.), Held in 1930. It is amazing how relevant Stalinist words are today - after almost eight decades!
        -----------
        "It is clear that all these 'theories' and projects have nothing to do with science. It must be admitted that bourgeois economists turned out to be complete bankruptcies in the face of the crisis. Moreover, they were deprived of even that minimum instinct of life, which cannot always be denied These gentlemen forget that crises cannot be regarded as an accidental phenomenon in the capitalist economic system. These gentlemen forget that economic crises are the inevitable result of capitalism. These gentlemen forget that crises were born with the birth of capitalist rule. Over a hundred years periodic economic crises occur, repeating every 12-10-8 years or less .... "
        "If capitalism could adapt production not to maximizing profits, but to a systematic improvement in the material situation of the masses, if it could use profits not to satisfy the whims of parasitic classes, not to improve methods of exploitation, not to export capital, but to a systematic rise the material situation of workers and peasants, then there would be no crises. But then capitalism would not be capitalism. To eliminate crises, you must destroy capitalism. "
        ---------
        Who cares here in full: http: //www.cprfspb.ru/2881.html
    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 25 January 2016 07: 22
      +4
      Quote: SSR
      It is winter now and for us (a manufacturing and construction company) a difficult period, but our all are determined to meet this year and Arbeiten Arbeiten and above problems also Arbeiten, otherwise they should not become what they should be. )))

      The fact that you are full of determination is certainly pleasing, but your work makes sense only if there is a need for your buildings, if you are not paid for the work done, will you be so inspired further?
      1. SSR
        SSR 25 January 2016 07: 54
        +2
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Quote: SSR
        It is winter now and for us (a manufacturing and construction company) a difficult period, but our all are determined to meet this year and Arbeiten Arbeiten and above problems also Arbeiten, otherwise they should not become what they should be. )))

        The fact that you are full of determination is certainly pleasing, but your work makes sense only if there is a need for your buildings, if you are not paid for the work done, will you be so inspired further?

        Before the crisis, there were plenty of such defaulters and we have a little of our own specifics, we quickly pay off because we focus on energy efficiency and tight construction deadlines, and accordingly commissioning. My minus is not comrade.
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 25 January 2016 08: 04
          0
          Quote: SSR
          Before the crisis, there were plenty of such defaulters and we have a little of our own specifics, we quickly pay off because we focus on energy efficiency and tight construction deadlines, and accordingly commissioning.

          As I understand you are engaged in industrial construction?
    3. 2news
      2news 25 January 2016 14: 51
      +1
      Quote: SSR
      In our office, many rush about in Gref’s phrase that Russia is a downshifter country

      Gref had to use such a concept as "rentier". The meaning would be reflected more accurately. And ignoramuses will not think that they were called downs.
      The term "rentier" does not mean anything bad, quite the opposite. Rentiers of individuals and rentiers in the world are full. Quite a pleasant experience, actually. It is a pity that Russia will most likely have to part with this. There is nothing good about that.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 25 January 2016 14: 56
        0
        Quote: 2news
        Gref had to use

        The word "loser", but apparently hesitated - he himself composed this "economy" together with Kudrin ..
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  6. Yak28
    Yak28 25 January 2016 06: 40
    +9
    The author writes "The main thing that each of us must understand is that this time it will not be possible to sit out and endure. There will be no return to what was in the 90s or 90s." But what about the ugly medical care as in the 90s, the same ugly education, corruption also flourishes. Huge differences in the salaries of bosses and subordinates, just as in the 90s prices are constantly rising for everything. Working people with no rights who can be fired without reason or not paid. The government defends the interests of the rich. Unlike the XNUMX, the army has become capable, and how else will NATO troops soon be against our border. And Crimea returned to Russia and now Ukraine will not have to pay for finding a fleet in Crimea. Positive shifts have appeared in foreign policy, Well, inside the country the situation will be, as always, fig, as long as the country has an existing political system that.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 25 January 2016 09: 13
      -4
      But what about the ugly medical care as in the 90 years, the same ugly education, corruption is also flourishing.


      Of course, there is nowhere to put samples on our medicine. But let's still not compare with 90. At least compare the equipment and repairs in hospitals and clinics. It is clear that there is a lot to say about the quality of treatment and the queue in polyclinics, but, nevertheless, the situation is completely incomparable with 90.

      just like in 90x prices are constantly rising for everything


      What did you want? This is capitalism. Any Western economist will scream worse at the word "deflation" than at the Spielberg horror film. Prices under capitalism have risen, are growing and will continue to rise. By the way, who raises prices? State? And not private traders, right? who sit here, incl. and curse inflation. And let all private traders, clenching their teeth, will not raise prices for a year and then we'll see what inflation will be. And if you want the prices to go down, you need Comrade Stalin "to reign".


      Working disenfranchised people who can be dismissed for no reason or not paid.


      Have the workers tried to defend their rights? The workers know what a "labor dispute committee", "labor inspection", "court" are. I've come across these "concepts" when I had my own business. And I realized that it is not the employee who is not protected at all, but the businessman is always guilty of everything before the court.
      The only time when it is impossible to protect your rights is if you work "black". Well, sorry, this is your choice. And again, in state offices the gray salary is not paid, but private individuals - businessmen - pay. And the state is guilty, of course.

      The government defends the interests of the rich.


      And whose interests should the capitalist state defend? Those with a lot of money. It is clear that the poor do not have money. That's why they are poor. The interests of the workers were defended by the USSR, but the PEOPLE for some reason decided that he needed jeans, chewing gum and Coca-Cola. Well, now slurp a full spoon.
      1. Wheel
        Wheel 25 January 2016 11: 54
        +5
        Quote: alicante11
        Of course, there is nowhere to put samples on our medicine. But let's still not compare with 90. At least compare the equipment and repairs in hospitals and clinics. It is clear that there is a lot to say about the quality of treatment and the queue in polyclinics, but, nevertheless, the situation is completely incomparable with 90.

        Yes, you are right, with the 90s the situation is not at all comparable.
        I won’t go far, here it is my village and village hospital.
        In the 98th, three therapists, a neurologist, two dentists, an ENT specialist, two gynecologists, a surgeon, an optometrist, three pediatricians, a hospital for 30 beds, an obstetric center for 8 women in labor, three ambulance teams ... and two people in accounting.
        2015.
        one therapist, surgeon, dentist, pediatrician, gynecologist, hospital on 6 beds, ambulance team and 15 people in accounting.
        What is there to compare?
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 26 January 2016 02: 38
          0
          one therapist, surgeon, dentist, pediatrician, gynecologist, hospital on 6 beds, ambulance team and 15 people in accounting.
          What is there to compare?


          Everyone judges from experience. About the queue due to the reduction in the number of doctors I wrote. I will not speak about the fact that the number of doctors in 98 was excessive; I don’t know how many people are using this help. But in accounting, is the state really to blame? Or local authorities? As far as I know, hospitals do not pay taxes other than fees from the wage bill, so where does the 15 man of bukhs come from?
          And by the level of medicine, I judge at least by the state of medical institutions. In "98th" the Institute of Maternity and Childhood Protection in Khabarovsk was located in one five-story building and a small administration building. My mother worked there as an anesthetist. And now only five large buildings, not counting the old one. I'm not talking about equipment and repairs, in Soviet times this was not the case, my wife gave birth to two girls there, so I know. Plus, he worked it out himself, when he was an energy auditor, an application for an energy audit and was aware of how much and what was new there. By the way, many people from the edge go to give birth there.
          The huge concentration center was made almost at the Bypass. I agree, not from a good life, cancer is an epidemic. But there is also a repair (former barracks, but remade well) and from the outside - candy and equipment. Even in the city, the hospitals were all repaired, at least when viewed from the outside. The clinics put things in order, although it’s not scary to enter. Electronic queues have been made, thanks to the doctors, it doesn’t reach the fight in the queues.
          Still, doctors’ salaries in terms of purchasing power cannot be compared with 90, and they are paid regularly, unlike in the old days
          I do not deny the huge problems. Sealing, reducing the number of hospitals is a big minus. Especially problematic with children's hospitals. Unprofessionalism and lack of desire to work as medical personnel, they stupidly do not know how to use new equipment. Kickbacks when purchasing equipment, poor-quality repairs, when everything looks good, but problems are revealed during the operation of buildings and premises. But still, you can not compare with 90. Then medicine was dying, just by inertia there remained the remains of the Soviet heritage. Now much has been done in medicine to improve it, however, there is a lot of wrecking.
  7. NIKNN
    NIKNN 25 January 2016 06: 42
    15
    There will be neither previous relations with the West, nor the West itself in the form familiar to us.

    Yes, and very upset ...
    Do not play my toys and do not write in my pot.
    You are no longer my girlfriend, I am no longer a friend.

    There will be no endless streams of all kinds of imports acquired in exchange for oil and gas and which allows us, in principle, not to think about the domestic production of anything.

    Thank God. We will develop our own

    There will be no free and long low interest loans from abroad. Neither from the West, nor from the East.

    There will be no stupid banks with idiotic credit conditions, and God forbid, if in these areas (20-30 of these banks per square kilometer) all of a sudden at least 1-2 circles for children or a library open ... hi
    1. IMHO
      IMHO 27 January 2016 13: 48
      -2
      You are just a super positive person)))
      Everyone is ready to justify and find the pros)))
      20.01.16/82/87 (dollar 27, euro XNUMX, barrel XNUMX) President: the collapse of the ruble opens up new opportunities!
      20.02.16 (dollar 90, euro 98, barrel 23) President: the collapse of the economy has a beneficial effect on the standard of living of Russians.
      20.03.16/114/125 (dollar 19, euro XNUMX, barrel XNUMX) President: the abolition of pensions will allow older Russians to feel young!
      20.04.16/153/170 (dollar 15, euro XNUMX, barrel XNUMX) President: the introduction of cards for essential products strengthens stability and enhances the culture of consumption.
      20.05.16/180/205 (dollar 11, euro XNUMX, barrel XNUMX) President: we had planned to sell these lands to the Chinese and Japanese for so long, and now it is much more profitable than ever!
      20.06.16/250/278 (dollar 7, euro XNUMX, barrel XNUMX) President: the closure of all stores will strengthen the hardening of Russians, allow them to increase their survival skills in extreme conditions, pump stamina and, finally, just lose weight. Have you wanted for a long time?
      20.07.16/1000/1200 (dollar 5, euro XNUMX - on the black market, currency circulation is prohibited, travel abroad is prohibited, all parties except EP are prohibited, elections are canceled, barrel XNUMX) Emperor: well, now everything is fine! Who has nothing to lose, he is not afraid of anything!
  8. vyinemeynen
    vyinemeynen 25 January 2016 06: 52
    +6
    That everyone will speak poorly, but no one can even describe, yet, how it will be.
    Our country has a very cruel vaccination of the 90s and Ukraine, so it will be easier (not easier) for us to survive the upcoming SOMETHING.
    For the morning topic, not a damn thing is positive!
  9. Hammer
    Hammer 25 January 2016 07: 02
    13
    I would like to believe, but the forgiveness of the Vasilyevs and Serdyukovs, who are harming the state, runs counter to the author's theory. Chubais with Rosnano, which exist to export money abroad, are still functioning offshore companies, recent salary increases for top managers of Gazprom (when profits fell 9 times), raising the minimum wage for deputies to 800 thousand. Anti-popular laws such as "Plato". If the state wants to protect itself, then first of all it must get rid of ineffective degenerates. What do we see? General forgiveness of corrupt officials and criminals in the highest echelons of power, such as the seagull, Serdyukov, Horoshavin. And a complete green light to ineffective idiots oligarchs who have appropriated the people's property and only know how to cut the loot and squeeze out the business, and not build new capacity, bring enterprises to the international arena, making it competitive. Their goal is their own profit, their lack of a brain does not allow them to realize that if they worked as they should, making Russia prosperous, they would become much richer than they are now. So it goes.
  10. Zomanus
    Zomanus 25 January 2016 07: 02
    +9
    An interesting person writes.
    Personally, as a trade worker in the field of foreign trade,
    interesting to read the second honor.
    As I understand from the first part, we must leave the trade
    at least to the domestic market, or even to production.
    Only now they don’t pay at the factory,
    as shown by the example with our "Radiopribor".
    In short, a large number will be formed soon
    "extra people". And if the state does not quickly figure out how to attach them,
    it will be very bad.
  11. Mera joota
    Mera joota 25 January 2016 07: 16
    10
    Wow, how "beautifully" painted that! Well done, what can you say ... But only:
    1. Since perestroika, Russia has not crawled out of the crisis and is not going to crawl out yet.

    Well, yes, I just ask you to recall the losses from this permanent crisis, especially human ones. The author laconically "suffers", but only the living can suffer, those who have suffered does not count? The message of the author "we have been in a crisis for many years and have got used to it", they say, it's okay, we'll survive. Well, yes, many will survive, and whoever does not, a loser is not capable of:
    Quote: tots
    Want to prosper: work
    Want to be the smartest: learn
    Do you want to be the strongest: go to the army
    ?
    2. There is nothing unusual in what is happening. The body is shaking, it is trying to adapt to the introduced poisons and viruses and to develop an antidote and antibodies. And the state in the person of the authorities demonstrates, in comparison with the population, an order of magnitude greater adequacy and a correct understanding of the prospects.

    Yes, the state is demonstrating, increasing the bureaucracy, reducing social spending, introducing new taxes.
    2. With all the seeming problems and gloomy prospects, everything that happens is good for the country. There is no reason for panic and decadent sentiment, although the impending changes will affect everyone

    Well, really. There are no reasons. For example:
    A resident of Moscow with an income of 100 thousand rubles a month spent 30 thousand rubles a month on food, 10 thousand for housing and communal services, the remaining 60 thousand for other needs.
    A resident of the city of Zima with an income of 15 thousand rubles a month spent 5 thousand rubles on food, 4 thousand rubles on housing and communal services, the remaining 6 thousand on personal needs.
    Here the dollar grows three times, prices begin to rise, tariffs rise, etc. The Muscovite starts spending 40 thousand on food, 13 thousand on housing and communal services, 47 thousand remains on the rest. A resident of Winter begins to spend 7 thousand for food, 5 thousand for housing and communal services, he has only 3 thousand left.
    Then they reduce their salaries, a resident of Moscow begins to receive 80 thousand rubles, a resident of Winter 12 thousand rubles.
    And it turns out that a resident of Moscow still has 27 thousand for personal needs and he can really be patient, but a resident of the city of Zima scratches his head and says, "Yes, this is a ... some sort of, how to live that!" from Moscow broadcast
    With all the seeming problems and gloomy prospects, everything that happens is good for the country.
    1. glasha3032
      glasha3032 25 January 2016 13: 20
      +1
      That you got excited about the income of Muscovites in 100 thousand rubles. Not all Moscow oligarchs, there are ordinary workers and women workers with a salary of 20-30 thousand
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 January 2016 07: 18
    0
    The crisis is a cyclical phenomenon, so do not worry so much. You just have to be prepared both morally and financially. One will end, after a certain time the next one will creep up. And relations with the West will not get better (or rather, beautiful and cloudless) for the simple reason that there is such a country - Russia.
  13. valokordin
    valokordin 25 January 2016 07: 30
    16
    I listened to a party with Solovyov, which was attended by leaders of the opposition factions, the chairman of the Duma committee on the budget, lawyer-economist A. Makarov. How he wriggled, trying to prove that the lying is better than the standing. It is strange that none of the opposition mentioned Chubais as the main waste of budget funds. Only Zhirinovsky allowed to speak out with communist enthusiasm about the causes of the crisis and called the market economy the trouble of Russia. The article itself recalls the point of view of United Russia Makarov that everything is fine, it's okay. And I remember my friend, a pensioner receiving 7000 rubles and working as a guard for a salary of 6500 rubles. Which has already worn itself out, can already finish my things, and eat pasta with liverwurst and tea with a spoon of sugar. Ex, would put these deputies and a hedgehog with them at the minimum wage. Hoping is not started. The president said that he’s not 37, so whoever survives, wait for 2037, maybe that will change. After all, they were waiting for 1980, when the material and technical base of communism was built, but communism did not come and Nikita Sergeyevich died. From liberals to him the kingdom of heaven.
    1. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 25 January 2016 07: 43
      13
      "They began to press on patriotism. Apparently, they steal."
      Mikhail Evgrafovich Saltykov-Shchedrin
    2. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 25 January 2016 08: 20
      +6
      Quote: valokordin
      Zhirinovsky allowed to speak out with communist enthusiasm about the causes of the crisis and called the market economy a disaster for Russia.

      Also amused. Not knowing who Zhirinovsky was, one could assume his membership in the Communist Party. wink Elections are coming.
      The article is that everything is moving in the right direction and you just need to tighten your belts. As according to Makarov, Soloviev’s. For me, there is only one way out - to move again towards building socialism. Then there will be no crises.
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  16. Hammer
    Hammer 25 January 2016 07: 43
    +3
    Quote: Mera Joota
    Wow, how "beautifully" painted that! Well done, what can you say ... But only:
    1. Since perestroika, Russia has not crawled out of the crisis and is not going to crawl out yet.


    2. With all the seeming problems and gloomy prospects, everything that happens is good for the country. There is no reason for panic and decadent sentiment, although the impending changes will affect everyone

    Well, really. There are no reasons. For example:
    A resident of Moscow with an income of 100 thousand rubles a month spent 30 thousand rubles a month on food, 10 thousand for housing and communal services, the remaining 60 thousand for other needs.
    A resident of the city of Zima with an income of 15 thousand rubles a month spent 5 thousand rubles on food, 4 thousand rubles on housing and communal services, the remaining 6 thousand on personal needs.
    Here, the dollar grows three times, prices begin to rise, tariffs rise, etc.

    ... And it turns out that a resident of Moscow still has 27 thousand for personal needs and he can really be patient, but a resident of the city of Zima scratches his head and says, "Yes, this is ... what is it, how to live that!" , and they broadcast him from Moscow
    With all the seeming problems and gloomy prospects, everything that happens is good for the country.


    I suggest that you familiarize yourself with the average earnings in Moscow and the average earnings in Winter, and not throw your illusory ideas about life in the "regions". And why does a resident of Moscow spend 40 thousand on food, and a resident of Zima 5 thousand? Is he a restaurant manager?
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 25 January 2016 08: 14
      +5
      Quote: Hammer
      I propose to get acquainted with the average earnings in Moscow and the average earnings in Winter

      So and where is your offer? In the sense of tsifiri? With earnings in a non-rubber sign, a lot of people went there ... With earnings in Winter also, today I just talked.
      Quote: Hammer
      And why does a resident of Moscow spend 40 thousand on food, and a resident of Winter 5 thousand?

      Because in the winter many have subsidiary plots, but it’s hard to imagine a Muscovite planting potatoes every year ... If I am mistaken, I would like to know how many buckets of potatoes are removed from a hundred in rubles.
      Quote: Hammer
      Is he the restaurant manager?

      I took it to the maximum, knowing that Muscovites would start complaining about prices in Moscow, so it’s really less.
  17. sa-ag
    sa-ag 25 January 2016 07: 44
    +8
    "... There is nothing unusual in what is happening."
    Yeah, a person means he lived for ten years in certain economic conditions, and then he gets a half-banged purchasing power and says that there’s nothing special about it, well, yes, no, if you have a small coin in foreign currency or a bill over a hill, a trifle

    ".. There will be neither the former relations with the West, nor the West itself in the form we are accustomed to. There will be no endless flows of all kinds of imports purchased in exchange for oil and gas and allowing, in principle, not to think about domestic production of anything."

    Everything will be in its place and the West with its technologies, and when and if it is possible to buy them, of course, with money from the sale of raw materials, because the pipeline scheme of the authorities will not go anywhere, they cannot do anything else "more pipelines must be built" (C) Encyclopedia of Contemporary History :-)

    In general, it looks like something similar to the position of the oligarch Prokhorov - "work blacks, the sun is still high" :-)
  18. Stinger
    Stinger 25 January 2016 07: 58
    +2
    I agree with the last paragraph of the article. The rest is debatable. Excluding the fact that our "elite" "for the first time felt in its own skin that for the world elite it is not an equal partner, but food." The West itself has cleared our brains. Its values ​​became clear. Goals too. The main thing now is not to lift the sanctions.
  19. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 January 2016 07: 59
    +1
    I agree with the author as a whole. The freebie is over. We'll have to "work hard" more and lend to ourselves. Personally, it's even good for me. Import has ceased to "cross the road", our equipment is back in price. The share of imports in our equipment remained - ten percent. So consider how much it will rise in price? This is real import substitution. The mechanics are all done by the same "private traders" like me. Software - by yourself, electrician - by yourself ... I have to hire people - I can't cope. In light industry, the situation is similar. A relative works at the sewing room - there is a shortage of female workers! Trade networks used to talk "through the lip", but now they lined up in a queue at the reception ... They also promised not to get it with checks - well, we'll see. They weren't too awful before (although not pleasant enough).
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 25 January 2016 11: 44
      +3
      The freebie is over. ,,
      I would like to know who? Health was earning, but not getting a freebie. If you mean that it was you who got the freebie, this does not mean that everyone got it.
  20. 24rus
    24rus 25 January 2016 08: 05
    +6
    There is only one solution: socialism.
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 25 January 2016 13: 11
      +2
      Quote: 24rus
      There is only one solution: socialism.

      Just in time for the 100th anniversary!
  21. iaTatarin
    iaTatarin 25 January 2016 08: 07
    -5
    nonsense. everywhere everything is the same not in one Russia. it's just that we are used to whining that everything is bad. looking at the TV channels and essentially imitating the uncles from the TV channels. and who are they? stop whining want prosperity do something for this.
  22. Flinky
    Flinky 25 January 2016 08: 15
    0
    The main thing that each of us must understand is that this time we will not be able to sit out and endure.

    Here is the main point. I support.
  23. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 25 January 2016 08: 36
    +2
    Where is the "cornerstone", where are the "organizational conclusions", comrades? After listing the "symptoms" of the disease and making a "diagnosis", the doctor is obliged to prescribe a "course of treatment"! And we ourselves can "joke" (a word from the author of the article, "I will allow myself a light banter"), without you - the clever guys! Russian! But no, "things are still there": the same toilets on the streets, full of crap, like the offices of officials, full of ... officials?
  24. veksha50
    veksha50 25 January 2016 09: 02
    +1
    "And there won't be a lot of things that have become familiar over the past couple of decades."...

    In general, I agree with the author of the article ... Not everything is so beautiful, but not everything is so rotten in our country ...

    The main thing is that the country does not begin to dance to the tune of the West and does not fall apart ... In order to revive its power, gain strength ... And the fact that there will be a lot of things - foreign trips and various jamon - this cannot be called difficulties for the majority. ..

    So I absolutely agree with the author's conclusion: "this does not mean at all that life ends" ...
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 25 January 2016 11: 56
      -2
      Quote: veksha50
      will not be - trips abroad and different jamon

      We'll have to kill ourselves with caviar, and the Russian people can finally see Altai, Baikal, Kamchatka and the Kuril Islands.
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 25 January 2016 13: 14
        +5
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        and the Russian people can finally see Altai, Baikal, Kamchatka and the Kuril Islands.

        With such prices for tickets and gas, we will soon stop going to the cottage, and Kamchatka can only be seen, as joked before, through the eyes of Senkevich.
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 25 January 2016 13: 41
        +1
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        We'll have to kill ourselves with caviar, and the Russian people can finally see Altai, Baikal, Kamchatka and the Kuril Islands.



        Hmm ... As an irony, I accept ... And so ... You named all the places I dreamed of visiting, retiring (in Soviet times) ... Then - there was an opportunity ... But he left much later ... Bottom line: I have not been there and will never be ... I’m sorry ...
  25. jovanni
    jovanni 25 January 2016 09: 11
    0
    In general, it is strange that the author took the catastrophe of perestroika as a starting point. If you look more broadly, the Russian state did not get out of crises and wars. So the crisis is our normal state. If it seems to someone in different short periods of relative calm that everything has finally settled down, and we will live like the whole so-called "civilized world", that is his problem. So we stop puffy eyes and drive foam. We just live a normal life. His own, Russian.
  26. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 25 January 2016 09: 14
    +8
    A curious message about the permanent Russian crisis.

    The language is itching to say so - but in the USSR there were crises temporary, not constant. But what then is to be with a cohesive liberal choir that capitalism is better than socialism?

    Orwell described a vicious pig-sheep chorus "Four legs are good, two are bad"; modern sheep pigs also yell the same thing:"The market is good, government regulation is bad","Private trader is good, the state is bad","Friendship with the West is good, conflict is bad".

    The crisis in Russia created by the West and supported by the West. With the considerable help of domestic Judas, eggs and decomposers of all stripes. But the source of the crisis is located outside.

    Every day, 10 times more oil is sold on world exchanges in the form of futures than it is actually produced. They are paid for with money drawn on a Western printing press. World has gone mad; empty deals are concluded, in which there is neither real goods on the one hand, nor real money on the other. And also with gold, with ore, with everything else goods.

    But Russia is selling real oil. And who is more degenerate in this description? Commodity economy - fu, not good, or paper business!

    The answer to the question in the title - we have reached such a life, because, like rams, we followed the path of the so-called "the west", according to their recipes, according to their schemes, with their slogans - develop services to the detriment of production, lend, trade on exchanges. Until the liberals and their thinking are scrubbed and burned with a hot iron, the crisis will not end. IMHO.
  27. free
    free 25 January 2016 09: 16
    0
    it would be nice to continue to listen.
  28. Concealer
    Concealer 25 January 2016 09: 22
    +1
    You just need to understand that everything that exists in the country, including the population, is perceived by the government exclusively as a resource for fighting global competitors on the external front. And, grimacing, it is worth recognizing that this is a completely adequate perception of reality.

    This is called imperialism. And that imperialism is this normal? Can preparations for a new world war (possibly thermonuclear) be the norm?
    However, the mood of the article is completely clear. But all the authors of such analytical notes are always silent, or simply do not want to think what kind of "new world" and "new world economy" it is. And this is the most important thing.
    Understanding that the main resource of the "new world" is people and technology allows you to avoid the trap of imperialism, with the constant nuclear meat grinder at the end of the path of endless militarization. And much is not even required, you just need to allow the entire population of Russia to engage in real production. Real production, and provide real means of production. What could be easier?
  29. tomket
    tomket 25 January 2016 10: 09
    +6
    Perhaps the article is a minus and that's why. The author chuckles at couch analysts and says something there about prices, believing that people are too lazy to track the rise in prices for goods and lose the presence of logic. Every day people go to the same shops and buy the same goods. Does the author really think that people do not remember how much the product cost and how much it costs?
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 25 January 2016 12: 09
      +4
      It’s just people who are tracking prices, not Rosstat. I personally track.
  30. guzik007
    guzik007 25 January 2016 10: 14
    +3
    . Since perestroika, Russia has not crawled out of the crisis and is not going to crawl out yet.
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    Well, let's say I agree to jump on a rake. Our folk fun.


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    With all the seeming problems and gloomy prospects, everything that happens is good for the country.
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    Hmm, all the same, our folk fun is a sign of wisdom?

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    The main thing that each of us must understand is that this time we will not be able to sit out and endure.
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    So I did not understand, if the crisis is 1. our normal condition. 2. It will benefit us. So what the hell can not sit and endure? : =)

    R.S. With logic, the author is clearly at odds: = (
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 25 January 2016 11: 56
      +1
      Well, let’s say I agree to ride a rake. Our folk fun. ,,
      yeah, we woke up in the morning and think about how to ride a rake. Or maybe someone still stubbornly lays this rake on us? why was the growth huge in a destroyed country? and there came, effective, vixen and crisis crisis. it’s impoverished, but these are only getting richer. maybe it's not the country?
  31. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 25 January 2016 11: 31
    +6
    “At the same time, the state is increasingly taking control of one branch of the economy after another.
    You just need to understand that everything that is in the country, including the population, is perceived
    by government exclusively as a resource for fighting on the external front
    with global competitors "////

    I highlight:
    "... the population ... as a resource for the struggle on the external front"
    This is ... - said a lot! I'm not sure that the author himself fully understood
    the gloom of this his thesis.
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 25 January 2016 12: 05
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      I'm not sure that the author himself fully understood
      the gloom of this his thesis.

      Not sure if the author at all understood what he wrote. winked
  32. varov14
    varov14 25 January 2016 11: 48
    +5
    "I must say that, unlike citizens who were crazy about" manna from heaven ", the state was already thinking about something at that moment. And, oddly enough, it behaved much smarter" ----- I completely and completely agree with the "descriptive" component article, but the above example is the main idea of ​​the author with which I fundamentally disagree. Rather, the whole development proceeded in spite of rather than with the filing and with the active assistance of the state. The author gave a couple of examples with ferrous metallurgy and military-industrial complex. The ferrous metallurgy survived at the time of the collapse of the union thanks to the "red directors", the majority were led by smart leaders and, most importantly, specialists in their field, and probably in their hearts they did not quite believe in the collapse of the Union. They did everything to preserve the industry, fought as best they could (I am writing as a direct witness), then, after passing through several hands of the "owners", more or less sane ones appeared. The state did not take any part here, perhaps, it turned a blind eye to the next raider seizure. Sane, yes, the industry keep afloat and even develop, though in a peculiar way, "walls" can collapse and "technologies change", but these are the costs of capitalism - tear it up so far. With the military-industrial complex, perhaps the state really fussed about, but also not from deep love for the homeland and patriotism. It's just that our nouveau riches were allowed a residence permit in Europe, but they were not allowed to enter their closed club and even ashamed to say they had their hair cut. And what they wanted - a Jew from former shoemakers, and Russians from serfs, it's funny. It was here that they realized that they had to somehow protect what they had acquired by such hard work, they bought the army, they are trying to reanimate the military-industrial complex, that's all, for the time being patriotism has dried up, the future suits them anyway. But in a crisis, the "patriots" can put the squeeze on, the fifth column is strong, so Katz will make concessions. Suddenly, the emerging "patriots" lost their time at the age of 25, instead of licking .... the West had to rely on its own strength, ie. its own population and its own industry, which was not so bad. Our capitalists did not have an imputed goal, and still does not, the system is not the same, strangers with a "plow" do not want to know, they cannot stand their own for betrayal.
  33. red_october
    red_october 25 January 2016 12: 14
    0
    What ruble ?????? What are you talking about ????

    Fucking sanctions do not allow Russian peasants to follow fashion trends in Europe!
  34. Gorodovik
    Gorodovik 25 January 2016 13: 01
    +1
    The article is very interesting. And although in some places I do not agree with her, it is written vividly and what is surprisingly not cheers-patriotic in style, we are inspired and the geyropa disappears.
  35. Arandir
    Arandir 25 January 2016 13: 44
    +1
    A very adequate article. It is not very clear where there are so many disadvantages. Apparently the bitter truth hurts my eyes. It remains only to add that this crisis (the painful search of the Russian Empire, the USSR, the Russian Federation for the correct structure of human society, economy, etc.) lasts a little longer than 25 years. I just wrote and immediately thought that it was not Gorbachev who started perestroika, and not even Peter I, perhaps it was started by Boris Godunov. This is how "perestroika" and troubles alternate. Peter 1 - Anna Ioanovna and Biron. Catherine II - Paul I. Then there was 1917, then Stalin rebuilt the Trotskyists and built, of course. Died. Khrushchev began to rebuild. He declared war on the dead and lost it. Then they rebuilt it. Then there were the sweet and fat stagnant times, analogous to zero. And in the same way they ate up petrodollars. And in the same way the elite was decaying. Then came the actually called "Perestroika-Catastrophe". It turns out that now we are waiting for the next perestroika-catastrophe with such a rotten elite, which has never been in the history of Russia. The likelihood that after these transformations there will be no Russia either. Despite the rise in national consciousness and patriotism. In 1916, patriotism was also at its best and victory in the Great War, and Orthodoxy, and for the Tsar and the Fatherland was planned. So what? Great October, brother to brother, typhus, famine, fighting against God, millions of hecatombs. Thanks to Comrade Stalin, they snatched out the Victory, for which now the enemies of the Human race revile him.
    And now the "Dulles Plan", the collective West is stronger than ever. It will be especially pleasant for them to break us right now, when we are so self-confident, "but no one will take us," "yes, we have the president's support at 90%," "yes, we have May 9 behind us."
    Not with us, but with our Grandfathers. This they had to perish and endure hardship, hunger, death. It was they who gave birth and raised five, seven, ten children and walked half the life in tarpaulin boots and military overcoats and quilted jackets. It was they who lifted the Country from ruins.
    And now it's time for our May 9th. But do we have enough patience and faith? Do we have the strength to give up much? Especially from selfishness, malice, cynicism. Do we have enough love? To the neighbor, to oneself, to life, to the homeland. Do you have the strength to extinguish ethnic conflicts. Roll up sleeves and plow without clearance. But the most important thing is to decide what our society will be like, where we are going, in what way. And go without turning off. Stop rushing from side to side and betray yourself, your country, your history and your future.
    1. Former
      Former 26 January 2016 12: 48
      0
      And now it's time for our May 9th. But do we have enough patience and faith? Do we have the strength to give up much? Especially from selfishness, malice, cynicism. Do we have enough love? To the neighbor, to oneself, to life, to the homeland. Do you have the strength to extinguish ethnic conflicts. Roll up sleeves and plow without clearance

      I
      -Enough!
      Despite the fact that I'm used to working for example, in freaking "outsourcing" I'm used to words
      -The project went through State Expertise, YOU ARE SMARTER?

      I got used to the fact that I have to constantly restrain myself, because now we DO NOT NEED SPECIALISTS CARING FOR THEIR BUSINESS, but we need stupid performers who "produce" heaps of unnecessary reports, graphs and other paper crap, building on "oblique" projects created by half-educated people ( however, there are no complaints about the designers - only a young boy or girl who has no experience will go to work for this "money")

      I’m ready, ready to even abandon my favorite toy in my old age, an old American SUV, my only outlet after shifts.

      I think that I'm not the only one.
      But here's the thing:
      -It is necessary that we, simple hard workers understand why we put up with all this.

      We need a Unifying Idea; we need a New Leader that can be followed.

      We are ready to endure and work ...
      Lord, how I missed the Construction sites of the times of the USSR!
      Where everyone was important, where work brought joy, where you could understand that you were involved in the Great and Necessary work for the Country!

      We are ready, I answer!
      But not for new villas and yachts of oligarchs, not for money offshore, not for a saucepan of boiled noodles that the next "ruler" has been throwing on our poor heads for 30 years.

      But all this:
      - A unifying Idea and a new Leader of the Nation, who wants our country to become great, so that work again, as once was honorable, so that even the most inconspicuous little man does not think that he will eat corny tomorrow, but work, realizing your potential, which is a fan of the Cause, and not at the expense of your accomplice-kents, is simply a pipe dream, alas ...

      Well, of course, there will be a "rise" and the end of the crisis.
      Only now, not for simple "workers, peasants and working intelligentsia", but for the unsinkable "Chubaisyats", "Yeltsinoids" and other scum that have sucked like leeches to the body of our Country.

      In general, as for me personally.
      This is much, too much:
      - 30 years of "perestroika", her mother, FOR ONE PERSON!

      Though zaminusuyte, but I think that having exceeded the sixth dozen, I, like many who honestly worked at the Production (and not only), deserved a quiet life.

      And forgive me, I just JOB from these words:
      -NEW MORE WORK!
      We don’t need to say this!

      We plowed (and even now sometimes we plow, although health is no longer that) so as to survive and maintain the well-being of the family at the level of the times of the USSR (I, for example, in those days received up to 700 rubles a month), as many did not dream of.

      C'mon, we're oldies!
      Come, for example, to any rig and see HOW the plow is plowed, boy 25 ... 30 years old!

      And further.
      I hate terribly similar phrases:
      -Machines in every yard, live rich!
      And why not?

      WHY, for example, is a master of cattle, a production operator, a turner, a DIS, a dem, but let a tractor driver or a janitor cannot buy a car, even on credit?
      Did he not deserve her?
  36. KryoWarrior1978
    KryoWarrior1978 25 January 2016 14: 04
    +2
    Here I am, a person intellectually "advanced", but I don't want to go on tours over the hill. I don't want to, that's all. What a (_ * _) crisis. For me it is not.
  37. dmb91
    dmb91 25 January 2016 18: 16
    +1
    Recognize that Russia has declared war-events in Ukraine, sanctions. Evgeny Fedorov, coordinator of the NLM, proposes to give the President extraordinary powers (2-3 years), reduce the refinancing rate closer to 0%, hold a referendum on the Constitution (powers of the President , national ideology, Central Bank). I personally agree to all 100.