Shamans: the production of equipment for the Airborne Forces will focus on the Volgograd plant

At the moment, the process of transferring the production of armored vehicles for the Airborne Forces from Kurgan to the Volgograd Tractor Plant is under way Interfax-AVN message commander Vladimir Shamanov.

Shamanov personally tested BMD-4M

“The first stage, which lasted a year and a half, has been successfully completed. The task will be solved before 2018, ”said the colonel-general.

According to him, “in the development of armored vehicles for the Airborne Forces, the process of its unification with the armored vehicles of the Ground Forces, for example, the BMD-4М airborne assault vehicle on 60% is unified in units with the infantry fighting vehicle BMP-3”.

"Now on the site of the Volgograd Tractor Plant are testing BMD-4M with a combat module from the BMP-3," said Shamanov.

“As part of the Zauralets development work, by the end of 2016, we will have two samples of new 122-mm guns. Modernization of the Sprut anti-tank gun is coming to an end, ”he said.

“In coordination with the Military-Industrial Commission, Typhoon is developing the design of an airborne KAMAZ with the fifth degree of protection,” the general added. “The machine should appear in metal in the second half of 2016.”

Having touched upon the topic of formation in connections tank mouth, Shamanov said that "the Airborne Forces will receive T-72B3 tanks."

Comments

[aszzz888]

Holy of Holies - Airborne Forces must be armed with the best weapons. And there should be no other criteria.

[Haettenschweiler]

- This is exactly the information that should be in the public domain. Yes.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

This is exactly the information that should be in the public domain. Yes.

What can I talk about if ours allowed foreign journalists to climb our entire military airfield in Latakia, not to mention warships. And this is in the region where the fighting is taking place! Such an idiotic step could cost us many human lives in the future.

[Mitek]

Michael, and what magazine whores can see there from the fact that they will not see mattresses from space? Dining room menu? On the contrary, in the era of information and economic wars, this was the right step.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Mitek

Mikhail, what can magazine whores see there from what they won't see from space? Dining room menu?

"Journalists" there can see, photograph, and with a very strong desire, even touch our military equipment and technology. And the Ishil, the Turks or the Saud, in order to plan a terrorist attack or attack on our military facilities, simply turn on the TV or watch a video on YouTube.

[gergi]

How can you test technology? Misha, you’re honest, but not smart,

[Misha Honest]

Quote: gergi

How can you test technology?

Specifically, this expression I added figuratively. Although I have no doubt that now all the shots taken in Latakia by journalists are closely studied in all adequate intelligence services in the world. And with the involvement of engineers and other specialists.

Quote: gergi

Misha, you’re honest, but not smart,

And I consider the idiots of those who so stupidly expose our technology for all to see. And people who agree with them ...

[Haettenschweiler]

Quote: Mitek

Michael, and what magazine whores can see there from the fact that they will not see mattresses from space?

- To see, you need to know where to look.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

- To see, you need to know where to look.

I think that among the "zhurnalyug" there are at least half of the "knowledgeable".

[gergi]

Who exactly? Do not rush such words. What do you know about the security system in the same Latakia? Iron and satellites can be seen perfectly. What must be hidden, it is hidden.

[vlad66]

Volgograd Tractor Plant with a long tradition, for the Airborne Forces it is always necessary to make the best equipment and weapons, but what will be dispersed with Kurgan, re-profile?

[zadorin1974]

Yes, indeed the Volgograd Tractor Tractor has a long tradition, to this day it works in three shifts, releasing BMD 2. So that everything is correct. At VTZ, the assembly of finished products takes place, the hulls are made at a ship repair (I know for sure that in Volgograd, from I can be mistaken by the factory).

[Maxom75]

Six months ago, they wanted to close the Volgograd Tractor Plant and even started selling the land on which it stands for residential development, the workshops were being demolished and so on. There are three plants in a row in Volgograd: "Volgograd Tractor" (production of armored vehicles for the Airborne Forces), "Titan" formerly "Red Barricades" (production of launchers for mobile missile systems "Topol", "Topol-M", "Yars", "Iskander ")," Red October "(the main supplier of armored steel for UVZ and other factories, including the famous" Armata ", in the 90s it was bought by Canadians and practically destroyed, barely restored, invited old workers and paid triple salaries, only to educate the youth). Volgograd shipbuilding in the Krasnoarmeysk region (manufacturer of oil tankers of the "river-sea" class and hulls for the "Volgograd Tractor"). By the way, in the 90s and early 2000s, it was proposed to demolish all these factories and build residential neighborhoods instead, people went to rallies and demanded not to destroy them, Putin banned and now there is a base for creating their own armored vehicles.

[NIKNN]

Quote: vlad66

Volgograd Tractor Plant with a long tradition, for the Airborne Forces it is always necessary to make the best equipment and weapons, but what will be dispersed with Kurgan, re-profile?

I read somewhere that in Kurgan there were orders until 2020, maybe there is not enough power for everything? In that article, about the fact that they cannot make heat in the workshops, the people are freezing.

[Knight Rider]

Quote: vlad66

What will they disperse with the Kurgan, re-profile?

What for? Kurganians-25 for the Ground Forces rivet, and other BMP

[gjv]

Quote: vlad66

Volgograd Tractor Plant with a long tradition

Quote: Maxom75

restored, invited old workers and paid triple wages, only to educate young people

[Pajamas]

Yozhkin bobomet, such a good weld, but burned with a container under the brush, I see that from a beer and a half bottles, how did it get into production? )))

[gjv]

Quote: Pajama

but they burned with the container under the brush, I see that

It’s quite an ordinary sealed metal bucket for paints and corrosive liquids. Such buckets are produced, for example, at the Novosibirsk Metal Packaging Plant, in Rostov-on-Don at the Gas Station Plant, at the Metta Ufa Company, in the Development of PKF Tambov, AViK North-West St. Petersburg, PMK Lak-market Yaroslavl.
Beer kegs are a bit more complicated product. What does one and a half have to do with it?

[Pajamas]

Quote: gjv

Quote: Pajama

but they burned with the container under the brush, I see that

It’s quite an ordinary sealed metal bucket for paints and corrosive liquids. Such buckets are produced, for example, at the Novosibirsk Metal Packaging Plant, in Rostov-on-Don at the Gas Station Plant, at the Metta Ufa Company, in the Development of PKF Tambov, AViK North-West St. Petersburg, PMK Lak-market Yaroslavl.
Beer kegs are a bit more complicated product. What does one and a half have to do with it?

The lower left corner of the photo, a plastic bottle of dark color, with a characteristic bottom structure and an oval low-lying sticker, Perhaps "Zhigulevskoe" or "Baltika" - cut off for a container with paint or a degreaser, a primer.

[dengy12]

Quote: vlad66

Volgograd Tractor Plant with a long tradition, for the Airborne Forces it is always necessary to make the best equipment and weapons, but what will be dispersed with Kurgan, re-profile?

read in our regional Brekhalov that KMZ orders right up to 2020

[Yuri from Volgograd]

Quote: vlad66

Volgograd Tractor Plant with a long tradition, for the Airborne Forces it is always necessary to make the best equipment and weapons, but what will be dispersed with Kurgan, re-profile?

I’m also interested.
In 2015, two factories hit us in Volgograd (Khimprom, VZBT and a workshop for KOs). This is approximately 11000 new unemployed. Two years earlier, Aluminka got up, about 5000 people.
The loss of a large enterprise will produce unemployment.
Well, Volgograd is certainly good.

[Alex_Rarog]

Not only the best, but also in the singing turn, sit down the ground forces ... Strategic Missile Forces are still more important ....

[max702]

On the one hand, the BMD-4 is much better than the BMD-2 .. well, on the other hand .. Let's be realists, the time of mass landings, and even with equipment, has passed, and there will never be a parachute landing of troops and equipment on a less decent scale, because it is VERY risky .. The losses promise to be outrageous .. So I think maybe the airborne troops can give the BMP-3 with modern equipment, they have the same air transportability, but three rubles and stronger and more that there is gut for the DB .. Especially the motorized riflemen are going to be transferred to " Kurgan "and" Boomerangs "which are obviously too heavy for aircraft .. As it turns out very early again, VLV on its platform from BMD-4, Marines on BM3f, motorized rifles and" Kurgan "and" Boomerangs "and the whole Armata family plus to this, the old models of BT, the artellerists have even more trenchant hodgepodge, and there are rocket engineers and many others, according to the most conservative estimates, several dozen platforms .. It is clear that this is a necessity, but still ..

[marlin1203]

Tanks in the Airborne Forces? They don’t land. Why transfer them from the ground forces? Let us then, on the sly, to the paratroopers from the navy, give a couple of MRK with "calibers", it will also add coolness.

[Max T.]

Actually, they are landing. Previously, with the help of "Centaur" they did what system I don't know now. And the crew is clear separately.

[Hubun]

Tanks in the Airborne Forces are unusual like that. But it will not be superfluous for sure, a spark in a pinch can decently add

[bmv04636]

Kamaz as I understand it instead of the well-deserved GAZ-66

[dchegrinec]

It seems that the Airborne Forces will undergo tremendous changes. And not only wars will become hybrid, but also the branches of the armed forces.

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

And what are they thinking of loading the Kurgan Plant, or will it be re-profiled, or shut down? And why are the T72 tanks, and not the T90 tanks?

[gjv]

Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus

Why are the tanks exactly T72, and not T90?

In terms of size. The T-72 is transportable on the IL-76 (with the side screens removed). T-90 in width is no longer included. Putting it with a corner is a complex device that must be done and loading - unloading is very difficult. And the problem of centering the aircraft.

[remy]

T-72 and T-90 side screens are, in principle, needed! BUT!
who knows knows!
see photo below
board of our T-72 and T-90
side thickness is clearly visible 80 mm top + 40 mm bottom sheet
top side sheet is 80 mm + 20 mm = 100 mm
+ cavity under 110 mm ceramic package, equivalent to 440 mm of armor
- the total equivalent of the upper side plate of the armor at an angle of 90 degrees. is 540 mm. (The bassoon is resting on the sidelines)
- at an angle of 30 degrees is at least 700 mm
lower side sheet 40 mm
- in practice, even if something flies there at an angle and from the top, so that the cumulative stream burning everything goes to the ground
+ YOUR SCREENS! Dynamic protection (DZ) "Relict" equivalent durability = 800 mm
In principle, and without DZ screens, the armor resistance is sane! but with DZ is better

[gjv]

Quote: remy

In principle, and without DZ screens, the armor resistance is sane! but with DZ is better

Thanks for the excellent knowledge of the actual material. However, the topic is somewhat different.
On-board screens are removed from the T-72 and loaded into the cargo compartment of the Il-76 aircraft. Then the tank is loaded there on a ramp. After landing, the tank leaves the ramp, side screens are unloaded, mounted on the tank. And forward, to the enemy!

[rotmistr60]

production of equipment for the Airborne Forces will focus on the Volgograd Plant

I will express my personal opinion. It does not matter at which plant and where the equipment for the airborne forces will be produced. The main thing is that it be produced and for this there is enough capacity and the technology is consistent.

[Darkoff]

Quote: rotmistr60

production of equipment for the Airborne Forces will focus on the Volgograd Plant

I will express my personal opinion. It does not matter at which plant and where the equipment for the airborne forces will be produced. The main thing is that it be produced and for this there is enough capacity and the technology is consistent.

Brilliant!

[rotmistr60]

Irony? For what reason? If it’s ironic, then I’ll explain my position - it doesn’t matter where (what the article is about), it is important that it be done.

[Castor]

Quote: rotmistr60

no matter where

Is it possible in Bavaria, for example?

Quote: rotmistr60

Irony

[rotmistr60]

The article, by the way, is about Russian factories. We decided not to joke well.

[Castor]

If you start to easily scatter Russian factories, they will quickly end and only foreign ones will remain.

[rotmistr60]

If you start to easily scatter Russian factories,

And this is from what a fright you dragged here. Or have you forgotten how to read in Russian?

[lukewarm]

Tanks in the Airborne Forces? Well firepower, armor, etc. Of course there is no superfluous. Only this is IMHO is not quite the Airborne. The army inside the army, something like that ... Why?

[Castor]

Quote: unwillingly

Tanks in the Airborne Forces?

Only captured.
Previously, at least enough.

[Wheel]

Quote: unwillingly

Why?

Duc, just everything.
An elite that never fails.
Who, besides the landing of the Maidan, will be soothing?
And here, without tanks, it’s not solid.

[Leprekon]

Quote: Wheel

Duc, just everything. An elite that never fails. Who, besides the landing of the Maidan, will be soothing?

Some kind of youthful definition! Will others fail or are they unreliable? First, one claims - "the holy of holies", now you, too, are pushing the popularity of the slogan.

Holy, Saints of Russia, its Armed Forces! And the main military unit, was and will be, its nuclear triad. Everything else is attached, with its goals and objectives.

Emphasizing someone's coolness, the stupidest thing to do. Each serviceman is proud of his kind of troops and will defend and defend his honor and dignity to the point of hoarseness - many have passed. This is like trying to assess the importance and leadership of a branch of the military according to its motto. Probably you know the mottoes of the Airborne Forces, Marines, Special Forces, military intelligence officers? So, the engineering troops, who recently celebrated their holiday, have their own, really ahead of everyone - "First we, then the rest!". But, according to other military experts, it may also turn out to be not the coolest! Long ago, in his youth, in a similar dispute, an Afghan neighbor, authoritatively declared, - "The army will not live long without us, because -" The power is in porridge! "

[gergi]

The Airborne Forces may have different tactical tasks, different forms of landing, different weapons. Tanks are perfectly transported by air, by water, and they themselves drive fast.

[max702]

Quote: unwillingly

Why?

So it came to the understanding that, as if this were not wanted, the Airborne Forces are not paratroopers, but well-trained infantry and they will fight in 99.99% of cases as motorized rifles, and for the success of operations it is necessary to increase the combat stability of units and tanks are best suited for this. .

[Max T.]

Well no. All the same airborne. Only stronger firepower and more reliable armor.

[Mountain shooter]

The Volgograd plant is much steeper than the Kurgan plant. Apparently, they cannot cope with volumes in Kurgan. Such "breakthroughs" with the transfer of production are very painful and are simply not done. And here's the reason: http: //lenta.ru/news/2015/12/04/achtung/
It does not fit into my head how an enterprise with a turnover of 8 lards manages to get one and a half lard of losses! Without the "help" of a thieving and / or incompetent leadership, it was not done.

[Castor]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Without the "help" of a thieving and / or incompetent leadership, it was not done.

I see no reason for such a conclusion. The amount of the loss is comparable to the decrease in revenue. Not a word about the decrease in production volumes. If the proceeds were counted on receipt of money from the customer, it turns out that the customer "threw". I wonder what his last name is?
Employees of the defense enterprise will suffer the most. Now they risk being left not only without a salary, but also without a job. And the Russian military-industrial complex risks losing qualified personnel. Transferring an order to another company instead of helping to restore order on the previous one is certainly cost-effective, but somehow not according to the state plan and in the long run it is very stupid.

[Wheel]

Quote: Castor

and in the long run, very stupid.

Who is the long-term prospect interested in now?
We live one day, managed "in manual mode".

[sclerosis]

All that was required was to read the text of the note in full, and not "diagonally". Then such questions would not arise. The production of only armored vehicles for the landing (BMD, "Shells", "Octopuses") is transferred to the Volgograd Tractor Plant, and BMPs, as they were produced in Kurgan, will continue to be produced there. You shouldn't load up absolutely everything from the Kurgan people, they already have a lot of work (especially considering the recently announced order for 200 BMP-3 and the prospect of producing new Kurganets-25).
So the decision is more than reasonable. In essence, this is an expansion of the production of armored vehicles.

[A1L9E4K9S]

The Volgograd Tractor Tractor will cope with the task, in the recent past, all of the country's agriculture was cultivated by caterpillar tractors of this plant (although there were other plants in Pavlodar and Kharkov).

[Armax]

I am very glad that VGTZ is back in the cage.
The glorious factory did not stop the production of the T-34 even when the Nazis stormed Stalingrad. When the Germans were already at the factory’s walls, the workers armed themselves and went to defend themselves, while the ready 34s entered the battle leaving the factory.
And then there is a crisis with sanctions!
I am sure they will cope with the production, and Shamanov is also looking after it.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: ArMax

I am sure they will cope with the production, and Shamanov is also looking after it.

And what Shamans did not look after Kurgan ???

[Armax]

Quote: evge-malyshev

And what Shamans did not look after Kurgan ???

I didn’t look or the media didn’t cover, but now there is special attention from the Commander-in-Chief of the Airborne Forces.

[igordok]

Good info.
Sorry, but I don't like the name "Volgograd Tractor Plant". Historically, Stalingrad Tractor Works sounds better.

[APASUS]

How many BMP-3 will receive the Airborne Forces in the performance "Derivation" with the AU-220M module, that's interesting. Will they buy or leave on paper ...

[Vadim237]

Not any - the weapons are inferior to those on the BMD 4 - "Derivation" will only be exported.

[Funnels]

And again, T72B3. Okay, "Armata" is heavy, large and still in dreams, but by what criteria the Airborne Forces are not satisfied with the T90?

[Vadim237]

It is interesting for the Ministry of Defense to purchase dynamic protection for the BMD, otherwise it can be pierced in its current form even from a NATO grenade launcher.

[Pajamas]

Quote: Funnels

And again, T72B3. Okay, "Armata" is heavy, large and still in dreams, but by what criteria the Airborne Forces are not satisfied with the T90?

T-72 - 3 370mm without side screens, with 3 460 screens, versus 3 780 for T-90, I think the dimensions decide.

[gjv]

Quote: Pajama

I think the dimensions decide

You're right. The T-72 with the side screens removed is airborne transportable by the Il-76 aircraft, therefore, it is more suitable for the Airborne Forces.

[Castor]

during the development of armored vehicles for the airborne forces, the process of its unification with the armored vehicles of the ground forces

Is it unified by fuel and lubricants?

[atamankko]

The troops should be commanded by people thinking on
perspective, which we see on the example of the Airborne Forces.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Volgograd is good. Not in Detroit, to produce our equipment :)

[Cossack Ermak]

What for? Kurgan is a depressive unemployed city. Also, production and orders to remove from it.

[beer-youk]

Quote: Mitek

what mattresses from space will not see?

For reference. Since July 2008, "mattresses" from space do not optically see anything, from the word AT ALL.

[From Samara]

All this is good! But the Ground Forces wouldn’t be prevented by their Airborne Forces! A full-fledged company without tanks would have been enough for the Army ...

[PV-Schnick]

not so much that work will appear in Volgograd, but they wanted to demolish VGTZ two months ago

[x587x]

Why is everyone told where, what will be produced?