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Need a barrier in the sector of threats

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Need a barrier in the sector of threats



The Kavkaz-2016 strategic command and staff exercise is scheduled for September of the beginning of the year. According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the upcoming maneuvers should be one of the key measures aimed at strengthening the country's defense system in the south-western (SWS) and southern (SW) strategic directions. To this end, a new military infrastructure will be deployed in the Black Sea-Caucasus region, as well as a significant amount of new weapons. And the main task of the troops and forces in 2016 will be to master the expanding combat capabilities during the preparation and conduct of the SKSHU. Meanwhile, according to our information, even before the exercises, it is planned to use land forces and warships not only to solve training, but also specific combat tasks, as was the case during the Russian operation in Syria last fall.

Whether new combat targets will be defined for this, and in what theaters of military operations, military sources do not report. Although, if you remember history, the preparation itself for the Caucasus School "Caucasus" already had a similar scenario. In 2008, similar strategic maneuvers took place literally a month before the start of Georgia’s military aggression against South Ossetia. Then the training tasks that were fulfilled at the SKSHU, the troops continued to work out already in the immediate combat situation during the operation to force the Georgian aggressors to peace. Now, attending the final board of the Ministry of Defense in December 2015, President Vladimir Putin also set the task to act in a similar vein. “The upcoming strategic exercise“ Kavkaz-2016 ”should focus on preparing personnel for operations in difficult conditions, including in mountainous areas,” the Supreme Commander said then.

The same tasks were set on January 12, 2016 at a conference call with the leadership of the Armed Forces by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. “Against the background of a difficult international military-political situation during the exercise, it is important to assess our capabilities to protect national interests in the southwestern strategic direction. Troops and forces must work out the issues of combat interaction and effective actions in mountainous areas, taking into account the growth of terrorist threats in the region, ”he stressed. The Ministry of Defense is now clarifying that the actions of the Russian army in the preparation of this command and control squadron on the SWS and JUS directions will be carried out "with the participation of aviation, naval and land units and formations ", that is, it is planned to use troops between services not only in the spurs of the Main Caucasian Ridge (GKH), but also in the waters of the Black and Caspian Seas.

FLOTILLAAIMED AT OUR BEACH


Such large-scale tasks are apparently connected with the strengthening of the military power of NATO, as well as the aggressive plans of Ukraine in these regions. Last year, in the Black Sea, the ships of the USA, Canada, France and other countries of the alliance, as is known, were present on a rotational basis almost constantly.

At the same time, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg repeatedly stressed that "the strengthening of the operational response forces and their increased presence on the ground is a reaction caused by the actions of Russia in Ukraine and Georgia." Recently, a document appeared on the website of the Romanian government, which says that the country's military department is starting a dialogue with NATO partners on the creation of an allied flotilla in the Black Sea. Discussion of this issue will begin in February this year during a meeting of NATO defense ministers in Brussels. A positive decision on this issue is very likely.

This idea is already being actively discussed in the media, and predictions are being made that, allegedly, the naval forces of the United States, Turkey, Germany and Italy can enter into the composition of NATO's flotilla. Military expert captain of the first rank Oleg Shvedkov thinks somewhat differently. He agrees with the opinion that the NATO flotilla in the Black Sea "can very easily be created." But he notes that “its composition will be mainly represented by warships of the Black Sea states - Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, and also, possibly, in the future, by the forces of the Georgian and Ukrainian Navy, which are not members of the alliance. The ships of the United States, France and other NATO countries will operate as part of this flotilla only on a rotational basis, ”the expert said. He emphasizes that “the stay in the Black Sea of ​​ships of non-coastal states is regulated by international law and the Montreux Convention. The last document allows foreign ships to be in the Black Sea area no more than 21 of the day. ”

One way or another, the maritime confrontation on the Black Sea may intensify. And according to Shvedkov’s calculations, the total martial power of the NATO countries, which will form the flotilla, will greatly exceed the capabilities of the Black Sea Fleet in its capabilities. “But the tragedy of this is not necessary. Russia has enough forces and means on land and at sea (aviation, rocket, etc.) to counter these threats. And they are constantly increasing, ”he said.

The words of the expert are confirmed by the data of the Russian military department. According to the head of the Black Sea Fleet's information department for captain 1, rank Vyacheslav Trukhachev, last year the Black Sea Fleet added more than 15 with the latest combat ships. Including for the Black Sea Fleet there are already two small Serpukhov and Green Dale rocket ships, which are armed with Caliber-NK cruise missiles. Similar weapons New diesel submarines of the Novorossiysk and Rostov-on-Don Black Sea Fleets, which also carry out combat missions off the coast of Russia, are also equipped. "Calibers", as you know, have a range of destruction to 3 thousand. Km. And this is a very formidable weapon, which our Navy demonstrated, covering rockets with militant positions in Syria.

Note that the effectiveness of "Calibrov" has already been evaluated at the Pentagon. A report by the United States Naval Intelligence Agency (Office of Naval Intelligence, ONI), which Bloomberg published on the last day of 2015, states that Russia's course on deploying long-range missiles on small platforms “adds to the problems of the US Navy and its allies ". It is also said that the threat to the ground infrastructure of NATO will significantly increase. “Missiles against ground targets allow all the platforms on which they are deployed to have the important ability to keep a fixed ground target at a distance under the threat of using conventional weapons against it,” the document notes.


Russian naval units located on the Black Sea coast already have experience in performing combat missions in Syria. Photos from the official website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

WHAT RUSSIA WILL RESPOND

Add to the problems for NATO and our military aircraft. According to the press service of the Southern Military District (South Military District), quite recently in Rostov-on-Don, a new commander of the 4 Army of the Air Force and Air Defense and Air Defense (Lieutenant-General) Viktor Sevostyanov, appointed for this position by decree of the President of the Russian Federation. Note that before that he commanded the same army in the Central Military District. But the Southern Military District is a combat district, and therefore an experienced commander should be standing there. Victor M. Sevostyanov graduated from Armavir Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots, Military Command Academy of Air Defense. Marshal of the Soviet Union G.K. Zhukov, Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. He served as an instructor pilot, squadron commander, regiment commander, division commander in the North Caucasus, Far Eastern, Trans-Baikal, Volga-Urals military districts. From 2010 to 2015 year - the commander of the association of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Central Military District.

It is under his leadership that the aviation group in the region will be improved. Currently, aviation regiments deployed in the Rostov region and Kuban are being equipped with modern combat aircraft (fighters and fighter-bomber) Su-30SM, Su-24M, Su-34, as well as attack aircraft Su-25SM and helicopters of the Army-II-I-I-I-I-8, and attack aircraft of the Su-28SM and helicopters of the Army MI-I-I-35, as well as attack aircraft of the Su-500M and helicopters of the Army MI-I-I-XNUMX. "Terminator", attack helicopters Mi-XNUMXH "Night Hunter" and Mi-XNUMX "Crocodile". The combat radius of their actions allows you to control the entire water area of ​​the Black Sea. Similar opportunities are available for two brigades of the operational-tactical missile complex (OTRK) "Iskander-M", formed in the Southern Military District. According to official data, these OTRKs are capable of hitting any targets at a distance of up to XNUMX km, that is, they can control the entire coastal infrastructure of the naval bases of a potential enemy in the Black Sea theater of operations.

Earlier, the media reported that the regiment of fighter aviation in the Crimea will also be modernized, and in Dzhankoy, near the border with Ukraine, helicopter units will appear to support the airborne assault regiment stationed there. In November 2015, the Security Council of Ukraine already expressed concern when about a thousand "polite" soldiers of the Russian Airborne Forces were deployed from Ivanovo there.

What new can appear in the Russian Federation on the SWS and US directions in 2016? The governor of Sevastopol Sergey Menaylo allows the deployment of a new naval base in the Crimea in the waters of Lake Donuzlav. Meymailo, as you know, previously served on the Black Sea Fleet (he was the deputy commander of the fleet) and has an idea of ​​the goals and tasks of the fleet for the future. If you recall, the naval base in Donuzlav was founded in 1976, and until 2014, it was run by the Ukrainian Navy. Ukrainian assault ships, boats and auxiliary vessels were stationed there. After the Crimea was part of the Russian Federation, Donuzlav was mothballed. But, apparently, not for long. Increasing the combat power of the Black Sea Fleet will require the expansion of military infrastructure.

“It’s still difficult to say whether Lake Donuzlav will again be home to the Crimean Navy. At present, the task is to create a grouping of troops capable of performing the tasks as intended. With the development of this grouping, a question on Donuzlav Lake may arise, ”RIA quotes. News statement by Sergey Menyaylo. He also told that at present, work is underway on the arrangement of the already formed subdivisions, and modernization of the fleet bases is also being carried out. All this is done by joint efforts of the Black Sea Fleet and the Southern Military District. According to Sergey Menyaylo, while the Crimea was part of Ukraine, no development of military infrastructure took place on the territory of the peninsula. After the Crimea returned to the Russian Federation, the military camps began to actively rebuild, and the Black Sea Fleet expanded its influence.

The press service of the Black Sea Fleet informs that, according to the re-equipment program up to 2020, starting from 2016, the Black Sea Fleet will receive sentry ships of the 11356 project “Admiral Grigorovich”, “Admiral Essen” and “Admiral Makarov”, two diesel submarines “Old Oskol” and "Krasnodar", as well as several support vessels and floating cranes. Apparently, some of them will be located in Donuzlav. According to Spetsstroy of Russia, in Novorossiysk, construction of berths and other facilities for the deployment of submarines of the Black Sea Fleet is being completed. Here, on the northern coast of the Tsemessky bay, the construction of the headquarters of the Novorossiysk naval base is being completed.

Thus, Russia, despite economic problems, continues to improve its troops and fleet forces in the Black Sea-Caucasus region. These preparations, of course, require considerable resources. But Moscow is ready to provide them in order to guarantee its security.
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  1. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 23 January 2016 19: 53
    +4
    And what is the "caliber" of an anti-cabble missile? And according to the exercises, the more of them are conducted, the calmer the country is - we study, it means we prepare.
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 23 January 2016 20: 03
      15
      Here on the north coast [b]Tsemess Bay[/ b] The construction of the headquarters building of the Novorossiysk Naval Base is nearing completion.


      Historic Site [b]Tsemess Bay[/ b, and for the Turks should be memorable wink
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 23 January 2016 20: 13
        21
        Survived. NATO Flotilla in the Black Sea. And the next step - on an ongoing basis with a base in Odessa?
        Just remember, guys, that the Black Sea is not so deep to accommodate all your flooded armada. Normal shipping will interfere.
        Not tired of splashing your palms on the water?
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 23 January 2016 20: 25
          11
          Quote: Reserve officer
          The Black Sea is not so deep as to accommodate all your flooded armada. Normal shipping will be hindered

          Nothing, on the basis of the Navy’s MSS, we will revive the EPRON and raise these vessels. In the national economy will do anything bully
        2. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 23 January 2016 20: 51
          +2
          It's still like seeing who survived .... Targets in the dash, here’s the squadron, wherever they are based. Anyway, this desk will not intervene, well, get in the way .. so God himself ordered them ..
          Quote: Stock Officer
          Survived. NATO Flotilla in the Black Sea. And the next step - on an ongoing basis with a base in Odessa?
          Just remember, guys, that the Black Sea is not so deep to accommodate all your flooded armada. Normal shipping will interfere.
          Not tired of splashing your palms on the water?
          1. gergi
            gergi 23 January 2016 21: 52
            +4
            Owner of Crimea owns the Black Sea. All these fleets and flotillas are good for peacetime. On the eve of hour X, these boats will try to dump away from the Crimea, preferably for the Bosphorus and dardanelles. Otherwise, their fate will be sad, drowned. And if you drown and stick to the bottom, then you get wet first, and then you get used to it.
            1. DobryAAH
              DobryAAH 23 January 2016 23: 18
              -8
              I have already said that titanium Faberge must be in order for the first to shoot. And they from the Odessa raid on the cover of missile defense through Ukraine will sadan and from somewhere in Poti, they will pretend that they came to a massive drinking party to friends. The first, naturally. Now they have 5000 KR. We won’t be able to repulse such a blow. We will begin to hollow in the waves. At first everything will be swept away on the shore. Aviation will come to the rescue. These arrogant rod and rod.
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 23 January 2016 23: 40
                +3
                Quote: Good AAAH
                I have already said that titanium Faberge must be in order for the first to shoot. And they from the Odessa raid on the cover of missile defense through Ukraine will sadan and from somewhere in Poti, they will pretend that they came to a massive drinking party to friends. The first, naturally. Now they have 5000 KR. We won’t be able to repulse such a blow. We will begin to hollow in the waves. At first everything will be swept away on the shore. Aviation will come to the rescue. These arrogant rod and rod.

                ... Do you yourself believe in what you wrote? .. hi .. and all 5000 pieces are direct from the Black Sea? .. laughing
                1. Inok10
                  Inok10 23 January 2016 23: 59
                  +3
                  .. at the first "bunch" of mattress covers .. it will be like on the attached map .. and 90% that our Sweet and Beloved Earth ball will not survive it .. hi
                2. DobryAAH
                  DobryAAH 24 January 2016 00: 11
                  -4
                  He said how much they have now. It’s not necessary to write nonsense. Just contemplate, you will see everything soon.
                  By the way, what will happen with the first bunch? So far I don’t see any evidence in your words. The Turks farted, Ukraine farted a lot like that, NATO farted to St. Petersburg almost, put up an anti-missile defense, all the countries of the socialist camp in NATO almost, they don’t look at us in Syria. Where is our cunning plan?
                  1. Tusv
                    Tusv 24 January 2016 07: 47
                    +1
                    Quote: Good AAAH
                    Where is our cunning plan?

                    Not for every "bunch" and lost "hic" let the partners bother with this. Russia is not Ukraine. International laws honors
                  2. nemec55
                    nemec55 24 January 2016 09: 06
                    +1
                    Where is our cunning plan

                    Ash stump where. As we always delay the moment. According to the story we prepare ourselves in fact, and then it blows.
                  3. user
                    user 24 January 2016 13: 22
                    +3
                    By the way, what will happen with the first bunch?


                    With the first bunch Georgia lost Abkhazia and South Ossetia, with the second bunch Ukraine lost Crimea, who will fart for the third time?

                    Of course, you can refer to the USA or NATO, but then the map presented earlier is correct.
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              2. BaLaLaykin
                BaLaLaykin 24 January 2016 01: 13
                +1
                Sorry dear, but what you wrote is nonsense. hi
              3. Tusv
                Tusv 24 January 2016 07: 39
                +2
                Quote: Good AAAH
                Now they have 5000 KR. We cannot repel such a blow.

                In Nat counted. To break through our air defense requires 6500 at a time. In the presence of 6800. There is, that is, but who will give them without unacceptable damage.
                1. DobryAAH
                  DobryAAH 24 January 2016 09: 58
                  0
                  Yes, 5000 is a marine component and 2000 is a land component. But they are not yet able to tighten the ground, if only Ukraine helps?
                  1. Tusv
                    Tusv 24 January 2016 10: 24
                    0
                    Quote: Good AAAH
                    Yes, 5000 is a marine component and 2000 is a land component. But they are not yet able to tighten the ground, if only Ukraine helps?

                    The maritime border is just less dangerous. Defense (ours) up to 5500 thousand km, attack (theirs) up to 3 t.km plus 500 km of territorial waters and 20 exclusives. There is no such handicap on land. 280 thousand missiles is really a lot. After 2000 it is already necessary to clean. Americans know about it and vomit in moderation of their exclusivity
        3. gergi
          gergi 23 January 2016 21: 47
          +1
          Odessa is vulnerable.
          1. Asadullah
            Asadullah 23 January 2016 23: 06
            +1
            Odessa is vulnerable.


            To say the least ....
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 23 January 2016 20: 05
      16
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      "caliber" anti-carriage missile?

      Including.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 23 January 2016 20: 12
        14
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
        "caliber" anti-carriage missile?

        Including.

        And even an anti-submarine torpedo missile. It's time to already know - they say "Caliber", yes "Caliber", but they have no idea about the possibilities and modifications of this weapon bully
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 23 January 2016 20: 27
          25
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          "Gauges", yes "Gauges" keep repeating

          There, not only "Caliber", but also 3 "Bastion" complexes are deployed, these are 12 launchers, deployed in the city of Anapa and in Sevastopol. The first stationary anti-ship missile complex "Bastion-S" silo-based (up to 36 3, so there is something to meet the adversaries. hi
          1. Glory_box
            Glory_box 23 January 2016 20: 32
            +3
            I haven’t heard about it, thanks for the info good
    3. Inok10
      Inok10 23 January 2016 20: 12
      17
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      And what about the "caliber" anti-carob missile?

      .. do not believe it, but YES! .. 3M54 .. in the photo .. hi
    4. Glory_box
      Glory_box 23 January 2016 20: 17
      +2
      The caliber can hit a marine target, but the range there is much more modest (not a fact)
      1. Inok10
        Inok10 23 January 2016 20: 25
        +7
        Quote: Glory_box
        The caliber can hit a marine target, but the range there is much more modest (not a fact)

        .. what ? .. 300 km. (in export version wink) is it modest ?! .. on the march, a height of 20m at 0,8M, for 30-40 km. anti-aircraft and slide, the target is 2,9M at a height of 10m. .. ANN + RLGSN and 400 kg warhead penetrating high explosive .. hi
        1. Glory_box
          Glory_box 23 January 2016 20: 28
          -4
          What ????? 300 in export and 3000? ??? No difference right? And about the hill and everything else, I also have Google. hi
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 23 January 2016 20: 50
            +6
            Quote: Glory_box
            And about the hill and everything else, I also have Google.

            .. so use it, read the difference between 3M14 and 3M54 .. hi
            1. Glory_box
              Glory_box 23 January 2016 21: 04
              -3
              Oh oh and what will I see there? What is the range of PCR also 3000? If not, then why should I?
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 23 January 2016 21: 16
                +9
                Quote: Glory_box
                Oh oh and what will I see there? What is the range of pcr also 3000?

                There is no RCC with a range in 3000.

                - the ground target for the Kyrgyz Republic stands still. The ship, in which the RCC targets, is moving.
                - at the same time he moves where the captain’s soul is comfortable.
                - during the time that the Caliber will reach the sea target, this target will wander away from its original location .. but just beyond the horizon.

                And what do you order the Caliber "who has flown to the place"?

                Quote: Glory_box
                If not, then why should I?

                Your opponent, unlike you, is "in the subject." You need google so you don't look ... um ... silly.

                IMHO (about google, that is)
                1. Glory_box
                  Glory_box 23 January 2016 21: 42
                  -1
                  In the subject of what about the fact that the range is many times more modest? This is how it began, but what I put in brackets is something that is not a fact, because it is not for sure. look stupid ... the obvious things say with a "not stupid kind" IMHO =? do you know the meaning?
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 23 January 2016 21: 59
                    +2
                    Quote: Glory_box
                    In the subject, what about the fact that the range is much more modest?

                    Not. Material part wink

                    Try to put commas, at least sometimes. Without them, your words are difficult to comprehend.

                    Quote: Glory_box
                    IMHO =? know the value?

                    In My Humble Opinion.

                    So angelic as I know the thread laughing
                    1. Glory_box
                      Glory_box 23 January 2016 22: 16
                      0
                      Let's say again: learn the materiel (like the herd repeats everything) what is the problem then? I said that the range of the PCR is much more modest, he did not agree. here you drew, confirmed that the range of the PCR is less. Maybe an empty palemic will be enough? Or there is nothing else to do, how to repeat performance characteristics with a "smart look" LOL. And commas and so on are due to the fact that I write from the phone, it is not convenient here.
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 23 January 2016 21: 04
        +1
        Quote: Glory_box
        Caliber can hit the sea target

        Exactly.

        Quote: Glory_box
        but the range there is much more modest (not a fact)

        Fact. It is explained, in particular, by the fact that on land it is easier to "stick to a place" than at sea, where only waves as landmarks yes
        1. Glory_box
          Glory_box 23 January 2016 21: 45
          +1
          Can a rocket be corrected during a flight? If you can, then you can direct it to the ship.
    5. Tersky
      Tersky 23 January 2016 21: 23
      12
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      And what about the "caliber" anti-carob missile?

      the prototypes for the 3M14 were the Soviet 3M10 "Granat" for the submarine and the 3M12 "Relief" for the land complex. Several missile systems were created, which are installed on various carriers:
      Club-N, Club-U: missile systems that are installed on surface ships (NK);
      Club-S: complexes that are installed on submarines, they are launched from torpedo tubes;
      Club-M: missile systems for mobile coastal systems;
      Club-K: a complex that can be installed in conventional shipping containers. Let's take RK "Dagestan" as an example. Its peculiarity is that it is the first ship in the Russian Navy, which is armed with the Kalibr-NK missile system, the Kalibr-NK complex is armed with the 3M14 missile, which has a range of destruction of sea targets - 360 kilometers, and land targets - 2600 km. Such weapons began to enter service with several classes of warships of the Russian Navy. For example, Project 21631 small missile ships were armed with the Kalibr-NK complex. hi !
    6. Army1
      Army1 23 January 2016 22: 02
      +4
      I am in favor of creating problems for Nato in their house, dogs overlaid Russia
    7. Civil
      Civil 23 January 2016 22: 15
      +2
      Stop scaring already,
    8. PSih2097
      PSih2097 23 January 2016 23: 26
      +1
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      And what is the "caliber" of an anti-cabble missile? And according to the exercises, the more of them are conducted, the calmer the country is - we study, it means we prepare.

      The Caliber-NK complex has a 3M14 missile in its arsenal, which has range of destruction of naval targets - 360 kilometersand land - 2600 km.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 23 January 2016 19: 55
    18
    "Its composition will mainly be represented by the warships of the Black Sea states - Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, and, possibly, in the future, by the forces of the Georgian and Ukrainian naval forces, which are not part of the alliance."

    Turks with Bulgarians, the theater of the absurd continues. request It is time for Ukraine to put a concrete foundation for the "Sagaidachny" in the middle of the Black Sea and drag it there, there will be a naval pillbox. Well, the Georgians on the "Omega-2" will paddle. yes
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 23 January 2016 22: 22
      +1
      This is for the crowd, such as a coalition to combat Daesh, but against Russia.
  3. SMICKER
    SMICKER 23 January 2016 20: 03
    +7
    It has long been necessary to give to the snarling NATO fuss, and such training is a confirmation of our readiness to do this! Let them look bitches ..!
  4. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 23 January 2016 20: 12
    13
    Georgian Navy? I apologize, but these do not exist at the moment, after the events of 2008 they were abolished due to the sinking of most of the crew, and the remnants of patrol boats were transferred to the coast guard.
    1. jovanni
      jovanni 23 January 2016 20: 48
      +2
      Quote: Arctidian
      Georgian Navy? I apologize, but these do not exist at the moment, after the events of 2008 they were abolished due to the sinking of most of the crew, and the remnants of patrol boats were transferred to the coast guard.


      Don't worry about them. It will be necessary, the mattresses will give them a lot of their old ones. And maybe new ones. Georgian flags will hang on their ships, and if you please, get the Georgian fleet ... And Montreux will not fall under any Convention ... So "Calibers" and "Bastions", "Bastions" and "Calibers" ...
      1. Glory_box
        Glory_box 23 January 2016 20: 53
        +2
        Yes, they are capable of anything.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 23 January 2016 21: 14
          +2
          The most dangerous of the Georgian naval forces now is 3 naval radar stations donated by the Americans. They "see" the entire eastern part of the Black Sea. Everything else is patrolling their own border and showing the flag (not far from the coast).
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 23 January 2016 21: 20
      +4
      Quote: Arctidian
      Georgian Navy? I apologize, but there are none at the moment, after the events of 2008

      Question to the Armenian radio: Where to see the Georgian fleet?
      Answer: Travel to Poti and hire a boat with a transparent bottom.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 23 January 2016 21: 54
        +9
        After the defeat of the Georgian army, its retreating units regrouped and decided to return to Gori, but stumbled upon a Russian checkpoint. The photo shows how a soldier of the RF Armed Forces at the ready with a machine gun opposes the motorized infantry of the Armed Forces of Georgia, the officers of the column threatened the machine gunner to get out of the way and let them pass, to which they heard in response "Go .........." Then the media tried to talk to the machine gunner, who moved with the column and to which they received the same answer. As a result, the column turned around and moved to where it came from.
        1. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 23 January 2016 23: 41
          +2
          Our people. Go to ... the optimal answer to many proposals and claims of our international partners, Lavrov seems to have already understood this.
  5. Glory_box
    Glory_box 23 January 2016 20: 14
    +3
    Well what to say? Well done !!!
  6. dr.star75
    dr.star75 23 January 2016 20: 19
    +2
    Well, about the calibers, the article on the VO was about 2-3 years ago. It indicated that, bypassing the agreement on the non-proliferation of medium-range missiles, Russia was arming the flotilla, and Ch.F. missiles that cover most of Europe. Then the news passed by. And analysts warned!
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 24 January 2016 06: 07
      0
      Quote: dr.star75
      It indicated that bypassing the agreement on the non-proliferation of medium-range missiles

      Sea-based medium-range missiles are not covered by the contract.
  7. Glory_box
    Glory_box 23 January 2016 20: 23
    +1
    Now there would be carriers, but for more, and to store warehouses. good
    1. Gardener91
      Gardener91 23 January 2016 23: 39
      0
      And personnel, especially flight personnel. This is a problem.
  8. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 23 January 2016 20: 23
    +1
    ... maneuvers should become one of the key activities aimed at strengthening the country's defense system in the southwestern (SW) and southern (SW) strategic directions
    The wetter the vests, the calmer we can sleep. I believe that it will be so.
  9. bronik
    bronik 23 January 2016 20: 24
    +3
    Crimean bastions are not only fortifications, but also "Bastions" that bring death to the ships of a potential enemy.
  10. ser-pov
    ser-pov 23 January 2016 20: 24
    +1
    Not the topic, but wait! The US is building a base in Syria, on the territory of the Kurds .... To go nuts, for 5 months there they couldn’t establish relations with the Kurds ... Damn, it's a shame ...
    1. BaLaLaykin
      BaLaLaykin 24 January 2016 01: 21
      -1
      there our 50 kilometers from them build their own airfield, so don’t worry
  11. jovanni
    jovanni 23 January 2016 20: 35
    +5
    The ships of the USA, France and other NATO countries will operate as part of this flotilla only on a rotational basis, ”the expert is sure. He emphasizes that “the stay in the Black Sea of ​​ships of non-coastal states is regulated by international law and the Montreux Convention. The last document allows foreign ships to be in the Black Sea for no more than 21 days. "

    This confidence of our "experts" touches me! Yes, they put on all conventions and treaties! It will be necessary - they will find a thousand excuses, but most likely they will not bother themselves. Everything will be done "in the light of the emerging threat from Russia" ...
  12. Barakuda
    Barakuda 23 January 2016 20: 40
    +3
    Maybe Wang was not far from the truth - that the mess will begin with Syria? And she dictated this indicating the specific year - 2014, and what is possible for Turkey (war with Russia) will be a Karachun. Due to the quarrel with Russia. Something like everything is close.
    So it is necessary to strengthen the overseas!
    1. Glory_box
      Glory_box 23 January 2016 20: 48
      +4
      Dear, predictions are made in order to be able to change them, and they come true only when it is too late to change something. This is a kind of warning that if everything goes as it goes, it will be IT, and if change, then there will be a girlfriend. I think so, anyway.
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 23 January 2016 21: 03
        0
        Am I arguing? But the root can usually not be changed already, but suffixes and endings are possible. My opinion..
        1. Glory_box
          Glory_box 23 January 2016 21: 47
          0
          You can change the root, I think. Everything is in our hands. wink
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 23 January 2016 20: 46
    +9
    Possible US Navy bases in Romania and Ukraine?
    But the Black Sea is not the Pacific Ocean, from Crimea all the way to the Turkish Straits is shot through by coastal complexes. If the Americans decide, Odessa is not the best base and from Sevastopol it is 390 km to Constanta. The Americans will go faster by escalating the situation, resume and sponsor conflicts, Transnistria, Karabakh, Abkhazia, Ossetia.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 23 January 2016 21: 33
      +2
      Unless they crush our coastal complexes and gain air supremacy, they will not turn up in large ships. Yes, the second option is more realistic (Transnistria, Karabakh, Abkhazia, Ossetia). However, their increasing activity at sea cannot but be alarming and makes them ready. to any scenarios.
  14. PiP
    PiP 23 January 2016 20: 55
    -7
    KSHU !!!!!!!! (swearing) You have to work it out in MVVKU !!! For what, you were given "generators"?
    ss
    Remove the article.
    1. PiP
      PiP 23 January 2016 21: 20
      -1
      Anyone who puts minuses, read "... It is still difficult to say whether Lake Donuzlav will again become the base of the Crimean naval base. Today, the task is to create a group of troops capable of performing tasks as intended. With the development of this group, the question of Lake Donuzlav may arise. ... "Where is the strategy? "CRIMEAN naval base" Generally not clear !!!!!! Either the Russian naval base or NO!
      1. 2argo2
        2argo2 24 January 2016 00: 34
        +4
        PUTIN AUTHORITELY VISITED CRIMEA. By order of Poroshenko, the Ukrainian fleet is put on alert! Go to sea failed- MISSED OARS. Cruising with submarines. There is an investigation into embarrassment, but it is already clear that Putin and Russia are to blame.
  15. liza1999
    liza1999 23 January 2016 21: 59
    0
    As for all Wang and other "clairvoyants" I openly laughed and laugh. Watch less yellow TV channels like REN TV and do not read the "yellow press". Or, as the ever-memorable professor from the famous film said, read nothing at all. The brain should be included, and not links to the Internet should be considered the limit of one's own brain activity. And Georgia is really dangerous because of its unpredictability, as it turned out in 98.
    1. Glory_box
      Glory_box 23 January 2016 22: 24
      0
      How did you reconcile ren-tv and predictions? Very interesting ...
    2. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 23 January 2016 22: 30
      +1
      With Baba Wang, I see. But not everything is so simple, many people get to the point. An example of the prediction of Lawrence of Chernihiv. Reread, everything is already being realized in Ukraine. There’s very similar about the Antichrist in the news. (Truth about the TV). These are not screen psychics.
      Look at the Kutlumush manuscript, much has already coincided.
      1. Glory_box
        Glory_box 23 January 2016 22: 45
        +1
        Yes, I know that some come true, I just don’t look at the box at all.
  16. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 23 January 2016 22: 09
    -1
    But notes that “its composition will mainly be represented by warships of the Black Sea states - Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, and also, possibly, in the future by the forces of the Georgian and Ukrainian Navy, which are not members of the alliance. The ships of the USA, France and other NATO countries will operate as part of this flotilla only on a rotational basis, ”the expert is sure. He emphasizes that “the stay in the Black Sea of ​​ships of non-coastal states is regulated by international law and the Montreux Convention. The last document allows foreign ships to be in the Black Sea for no more than 21 days. "

    Yeah, and because of what we will fall on the Turks, because of Greece? We will pile up because the American ships will go as to their home, breaking the document. And on them - sea-based KR. He’ll squeak soon.
  17. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 23 January 2016 22: 38
    +1
    According to Baba Vanga, we are already in deserted Europe, but, I think, everyone came up with magazines.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 23 January 2016 23: 03
      +1
      Look, there is nothing about Syria, the journalists didn’t think of coming up with it. But then they came up with a conflict on the Hindustan. Keep today's predictions, in 10 years you’ll laugh.
  18. Pindermyak
    Pindermyak 23 January 2016 22: 38
    +1
    Quote: dr.star75
    Well, about the calibers, the article on the VO was about 2-3 years ago. It indicated that, bypassing the agreement on the non-proliferation of medium-range missiles, Russia was arming the flotilla, and Ch.F. missiles that cover most of Europe. Then the news passed by. And analysts warned!

    Rzhachno. Dear, what are you doing? Surface and underwater missiles did not fall into the zone of operation of the agreement on the liquidation of the RMND. So ... Sofa analysts can warn about anything.
  19. Barakuda
    Barakuda 23 January 2016 22: 58
    0
    Quote: APASUS
    Possible US Navy bases in Romania and Ukraine?

    Some kind of paradox. I have a godfather "warrior" at the Ukrainian Embassy in Romania, but I can't get through. Is it possible that a Suvorov soldier whom I know from school was bought? judging by the fact that he does not answer, and drives to Subaru 4 = 4, for a salary, however, it is quite possible .. request
    Here, I discovered a terrible secret for the SBU ..
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 23 January 2016 23: 07
      0
      Now they’ll put him outside. wassat
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  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus 24 January 2016 05: 09
    +1
    Damn, one might think that while they will hammer our Black Sea group,
    the rest will sit and watch.
  21. Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 January 2016 11: 14
    0
    Why do not you miserable lives in peace, well, it was all this repeatedly in our history. You got on the head, but everything does not reach you. Tired already. God sees, scoop to the fullest, but stop babysitting with you, they will not spare anyone else. Our revenge will be terrible.